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Speaker 2: of night Cap. I'm your favorite unk, Shining Sharp. He's

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Speaker 2: your favorite Number eighty five, the newest member into the

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals Ring of Honor, Chad o.

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Speaker 2: God, you got the sunglasses on, so I know it

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Speaker 2: wasn't real, but I know you cried me a real

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Speaker 2: Oh justin Timberlake.

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Speaker 3: Oh, justin Timberlake.

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Speaker 1: I trust me. I didn't cry. But I'm feeling good. Listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm happy.

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Speaker 3: Let us y, let me see YI right quick.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you cried, you cried, You cried in the car,

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Speaker 2: but you're trying to call.

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Speaker 1: I walked to the stadium. I walked to the stam

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Speaker 1: and I walked back here because I want to be

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Speaker 1: I wanted to be amongst the people. I wanted to

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Speaker 1: be among the people. Yeah, I want to be amongst

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Speaker 1: the people. And I wanted to feel that the love

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Speaker 1: that I have missed for over a decade and some change.

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what it was. I had my kids

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Speaker 1: walk with me, had had the missus walking with me,

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Speaker 1: had too came out to support me. Man, really, man, listen,

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Speaker 1: that felt good, man, That felt good to have my

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Speaker 1: family with me, and then my extended family, my extended

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Speaker 1: family of eighty thousand out there screaming that name here

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Speaker 1: and at Oho, just the same way you explained it yesterday.

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Speaker 2: You you go into the Ring of Honor with a

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Speaker 2: former a colleague of mine, Boomer Sassin.

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Speaker 3: So tell me what what was that moment?

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Speaker 2: Like you walking down as the half is about to end,

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Speaker 2: you and your family and your your family and friends.

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Speaker 2: You start to walk down and now all of a

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Speaker 2: sudden you're on the field and you start to get

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Speaker 2: a little quil like, oh man, this thing about to happen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I kept thinking about happy thoughts

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Speaker 1: to go back to everything it took to get to

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Speaker 1: this point, because if I thought about everything it took

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Speaker 1: too and getting that phone call from Mike Brown, and

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Speaker 1: then all the ups and down throughout my career, then

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Speaker 1: the tears would have started flowing. I thought, happy thoughts.

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Speaker 1: I kept looking at my kids, I kept looking at

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Speaker 1: it all and I enjoyed it. You only get one

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised.

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Speaker 2: I also, knowing how close you were to your mom

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Speaker 2: go there as a damn I wish mama.

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Speaker 1: I purposely stayed away from that. I'm just telling you

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Speaker 1: I was was able to come compartmentalize mama everything else

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Speaker 1: happy thoughts. Steer in the crowd, make eye contact one purpose,

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Speaker 3: You see that baby, Mama, granted I did it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me get back right, Let me get back right.

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Speaker 1: You almost got me, You got me. Let me stop

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Speaker 1: talking about that. But yeah, mom, I had that moment

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Speaker 1: and they deserve it. So says they couldn't be here.

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Speaker 3: You going to them?

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Speaker 2: The Bengals, Okay, you guys win nineteen sixteen, a very

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Speaker 2: hard fall ball game. Joe Burrow's dealing with that calf injury.

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Speaker 2: Thirty one pass attempts in the first half, forty nine

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Speaker 1: My Bengals are back. They're not back and not efficient

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Speaker 1: is what we're used to seeing. But this is the start.

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Speaker 1: This is the start. I told you something about the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: I think. I think statistically, Chase is not where he

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Speaker 1: to be because of two slow starts. Obviously, we're used

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Speaker 1: But this is a start. This is a confidence building

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Speaker 1: for us offensively, it's a confidence builder for us defensively,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's a foundation on something that we

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Speaker 2: Since that is not going three straight games, three games

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Speaker 1: Is that concerning for you? It's not concerned. It's all

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Speaker 1: about that. It's all about us offensively starting fast. And

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Speaker 1: you change your tendencies. When you change your tendencies and

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Speaker 1: so much success offensively, I think teams are ready. They're

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Speaker 2: How much is Joe burrow mobility impacting what this offense

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Speaker 2: can do? Because we know Joe, Joe is a guy

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Speaker 2: that can rely on his legs, he can get outside

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Speaker 2: make plays, not only throwing the ball but also running

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Speaker 3: How much of its mobility has hampered this offense?

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Speaker 1: I think it's hampered it a little bit. Is hampered

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Speaker 1: a little bit, But I'll take a seventy percent Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow over other NFL teams quarterbacks quarterback at I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying because Joe is poised. He's a pocket passer first,

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Speaker 1: and he runs when he has to correct, not just

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Speaker 2: I thought your defense played really well last tonight when

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Speaker 2: you look at it. The Rams got into the red

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Speaker 2: Bill go gets your beat touchdowns when you games wins

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Speaker 2: your championships. So I was really pressed with Hendrix, and

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Speaker 3: They did.

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Speaker 1: This is what you call the definition of a bend.

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Speaker 1: And it's just in a testament to the difficulty and

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Speaker 3: He can make up for it.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the other game of the night the Eagles

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Speaker 3: Esez, I don't know how much of that.

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Speaker 2: I know you saw a little bit of this ball game,

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Speaker 1: Listen, it was hard for me to watch the game

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Speaker 1: But I was hoping. I was hoping, I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: be honest, I was hoping that Baker could pull a

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Speaker 3: What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: What was their record, Shannon? What were the Bucks record

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Speaker 1: when last year.

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Speaker 3: They won the division?

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Speaker 1: tell you. But again, the Eagles came The Eagles came

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Speaker 1: a good game. But I just think the Bucks were

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mebody coverage. Somebody else got.

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Speaker 2: You know what I like most about Jayleen Hurst because

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Speaker 1: you have to work hard at it. Yeah, But I

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Speaker 2: If they fix this.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes you just don't know what the hell you're doing.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter the tools that you're working with, don't

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Speaker 3: I know you keep saying, give all this and all that.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Jameis Winston had those same tools that Tom Brady

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Speaker 3: Why you didn't make that.

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Speaker 2: It takes a special type of lady to be in

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Speaker 3: Very very important? And what's okay, hey I miss that.

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Speaker 2: It's all good, So let me know so I can

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they know it's coming. And you know the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you play, you're gonna get you're gonna get pressure,

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Speaker 3: He's like his dad.

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Speaker 1: But they coming, Yeah, every time, every time.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know what, there's a lot being made. Jalen

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Speaker 1: I think you know, you know, if you if they

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Speaker 1: can't stop it, don't let him. Don't let him get

439
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Speaker 1: down in the ring zone. Don't let him get down

440
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Speaker 1: in the ren zone.

441
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,920
Speaker 3: Don't let him get thirty short and fourth and short.

442
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Speaker 1: But there's no way to stop it. Then everybody else needed,

443
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,399
Speaker 1: everybody else needs to take take a page out they

444
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 1: book and do the same thing.

445
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,840
Speaker 3: Well, everybody got a quarterback six hundred pounds.

446
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,160
Speaker 1: That boy squad six hundred?

447
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, that's what I see.

448
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 1: That's crazy. You know, I can only do something fifty

449
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 1: But you know I ain't. I ain't know even like that, right,

450
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 1: I thought it was just me and Nick Chubb the

451
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 1: squad like that. But that's that's that's good. Yeah, listen,

452
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 1: there's no way to stop that. Ye, there's no way

453
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 1: to stop that with the line, the offensive lineman, they

454
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,199
Speaker 1: just they just going low and then they got in

455
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Speaker 1: the back. Then you got somebody pushing pushing you in

456
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Speaker 1: the back.

457
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

458
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 1: No, there's no way to stop that. Is it fair? No,

459
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,680
Speaker 1: it's not. Is it way to stop it? No, there isn't.

460
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 1: But I mean, if if you make a rule, change

461
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Speaker 1: in what's next, right, may change in what?

462
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:48,000
Speaker 3: Well?

463
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know what, because they've handicapped the defense

464
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 2: so much so if they take that out of the

465
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 2: offense exactly, I mean to make it fair because now

466
00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 2: you know incidental contact the defenss receiver, you know, helmet

467
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 2: to helmet. You got so many you got so many

468
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 2: rules and get the defense. I'm surprised we don't see

469
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Speaker 2: more fifty to sixty point game score considering how they've

470
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Speaker 2: taken the ability to punish the quarterback of punish the

471
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Speaker 2: receiver out of.

472
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Speaker 3: The ball game.

473
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Speaker 1: Listen, it's a it's becoming a past happy league. And

474
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Speaker 1: I think they've made it like that purposely, just so

475
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Speaker 1: there's more excitement for the fans put up more and

476
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 1: more points, and that is that is, that is where

477
00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 1: we're getting to an extent, to an extent, because I

478
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 1: don't think we're gonna see a seventy a seventy gamer,

479
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 1: a seventy bomb like we saw no between the Dolphins

480
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 1: and the Broncos. But again, the NFL wants high scoring

481
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: game because high scoring game breeds more eyes and more attention. Yes,

482
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, we know what

483
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: the bottom line is, more money.

484
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look all that curious. Oh, I like

485
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 2: old school football. I like ten seven. No, I don't.

486
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 2: If I go to a baseball game, which is an often,

487
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to feel one nothing. I'm not trying

488
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 2: to see a two one ball game. I want to

489
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:05,959
Speaker 2: see nine eight going over the fence. If it's basketball,

490
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 2: I don't want to see like when I grew up.

491
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 2: I mean in the nineties, the score was like eighty

492
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 2: three seventy six. Now they get eighty points at the half.

493
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 2: I want to see one thirty eight to one two.

494
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 2: That's what I want to see.

495
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 1: You say basketball, ain't nobody out there playing no defense?

496
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: Huh No, they playing.

497
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,360
Speaker 2: But you know, back in the day, you know when

498
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 2: the Piston, the Bad Boy Pistons and the Miami Heat

499
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 2: and the Knicks where they were.

500
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Speaker 3: Playing football basketball.

501
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: The scores were low elbows. Yeah, you had you had

502
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: to think twice before going through that lane for layups.

503
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 3: And I don't remember the game flag re fives when? When? When?

504
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 3: Who's that? That was? Who snatched Kevin McHale snatched Kirk

505
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 3: Ramas out the area.

506
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 2: With the last day and they started fighting. Hey, nobody

507
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 2: got tossed. They're like, okay, hey, you shoot the two

508
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 2: free throws and let's go again. The Bad Boy Pistol

509
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: where they was snatching Jordan not there. They're like, nobody out.

510
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, time to change. Time to change. And I'm

511
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 1: not I'm not gonna say people they haven't gotten soft.

512
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 1: I'm just saying time to change. So everything has evolved

513
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: where the rules had no choice but to change with

514
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: the times.

515
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Jets, you're someone Robert solid back of Zach Wilson.

516
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 2: He says he's out, unquestion. You don't throw people away. Man,

517
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 2: He's not the reason why we lost. He not the

518
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 2: reason y'all won either.

519
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: Listen, He's not the reason we lost either. So I

520
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 1: told you what I need to do. I need to

521
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: go and break down film, right, I said, I need

522
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: to go see the film copy so I can get

523
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: it better. Understanding what was happening. Zach Wilson was rattled.

524
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: The score was close the entire game up into the

525
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. The score was close. Listen, it was you know,

526
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: it was a great defensive game, right, it was a

527
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: great defensive game from both sides of the ball. It

528
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: was very difficult each type, each team to score, for

529
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: each team to move the ball, because if they were

530
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: moving the ball as efficient as they should have been,

531
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: it would have been a few goals to goalre from

532
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: both sides. But it wasn't. It wasn't. And the and

533
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: the key time that Zach could have made plays or

534
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 1: one one of the should have made the right decision

535
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: on certain plays, he was flushed and couldn't make the throw.

536
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: And based on what I could see from film, hold

537
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 1: on to tell you that.

538
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 3: This man, hold on, hold on this mannumber.

539
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you're right.

540
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 3: Listen.

541
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Speaker 1: Let's say they ran sixty five plays, right, Okay, I'm

542
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,199
Speaker 1: just I'm just throwing this out there. Said they ran

543
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: sixty five plays offensively average, you know, out of sixty

544
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: five plays. You know, one or one or two of

545
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: those plays out of sixty five make the difference in

546
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: that game. Of course, you know that. It's crazy. It's

547
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 1: a crazy I don't even know that. I don't even

548
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: know the set. I just know if you run sixty

549
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,119
Speaker 1: five some plays, it's one or two plays that make

550
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: the difference in that game. But there was a play

551
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: they ran it. It was covered two on one side.

552
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 1: It's coming to on one side.

553
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 3: Quarter quarter.

554
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: Sticks, listen, safety. But it was on the far hash.

555
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,120
Speaker 1: There was a whole shot he could have hit. There's

556
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: a whole shot he could have hit right, But I

557
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: think I think he checked it down instead. I think

558
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 1: he was just a little nervous and wanted to get

559
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: the ball out of his hands when that would have

560
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: been a nice hole shot he could have hitten. But

561
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: from getting hit early on, getting flushed out, he just

562
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: a little flustered and just wanted to get go for

563
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: the safe throat. Stuff like that, Just small stuff like that.

564
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: It's a difference in the football game.

565
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: Think about the receivers if they would shy away like that.

566
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 2: So we got hit in the first or the second quarter,

567
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: third quarter, come first, fourth quarter, we wouldn't go across

568
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 2: the middle and catch the ball. Ain't nobody gonna say, oh, well,

569
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 2: you know he was a little flustered. He took a

570
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 2: couple of shots earlier. You notice how how people like

571
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,719
Speaker 2: yourself and others make excuses for quarterbacks.

572
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 3: They don't make for any other position.

573
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not I'm not making no excuse. I'm

574
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: not making I can I ask you a question. Have

575
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 1: you ever played Have you ever played the position in

576
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: the quarterback at anything?

577
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 3: Yes?

578
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: I did at any level wherever it was at. You

579
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: have did you have on pads in the helmet? Yes's

580
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: your old line good? Was your old line good?

581
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 3: They were? Okay?

582
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: Do you do you know what it's like to lose

583
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: your confidence as a quarterback getting hit.

584
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 3: I ain't never nod. I'm that dude.

585
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: I'm him mad Porter raised three the hard way. I

586
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 2: ain't never lost for confidence. I ain't shook and can

587
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 2: never be stirred. I don't know who you think you're

588
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 2: talking to. You must have forgot okay, you forget hold

589
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: o Joe. I had my name up in the stadium

590
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: almost two decades before you got yours up there. Did

591
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: you forget who? On the other end of this camera.

592
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know I'm talking. Okay, I know

593
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm talking about what I can to listen. Ain't nobody

594
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: had more confidence than me, you know, But I can

595
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: empathize with those that are going through struggles, that are

596
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 1: having problems, that are playing a specific position in the

597
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: scific place that makes it hell for cares, but haven't

598
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: been able to be successful at that position as well.

599
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: We continue to blame it on the same We continue

600
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 1: to blame it on the quarterback every time. We continue

601
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: to blame on the quarterback every time, every time, every time,

602
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez, Sam Donald MHM, Zach Wilson, Joe Flacko. When

603
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: things aren't going well, it's always the goddamn quarterbacks fault. Well,

604
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: maybe it ain't the quarterback, maybe maybe that, Maybe it's

605
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 1: maybe it's not them, it's not them.

606
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 2: Let me ask your question. When Tom Brady get all them,

607
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 2: let me ask you. I just want to ask you this.

608
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: If you ask me this. How many times they mentioned

609
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: on those game winning drive that Tom Brady had. How

610
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: many times they mentioned the receiver they caught the ball,

611
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: how many times they mentioned offensive line, how many times

612
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: they mentioned the coach or did they mention Tom Brady

613
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 2: did it again?

614
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,719
Speaker 3: It's the Brady effect. I'm just asking. I'm just I mean,

615
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 3: just just just talking to.

616
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Speaker 1: Me like I know. I'm just I'm just asking Tom

617
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: tom Brady. He drives the needle, he makes he makes

618
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: the needle move. Okay, Peyton with Peyton man he had

619
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: all those comfort behind Hey he got he got a

620
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: lot of them fourth fourth quarter comebacks too.

621
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 3: I watched it.

622
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: I remember else.

623
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 3: That's why you make that? Why you think Patrick?

624
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: Why you think Patrick Mahoe got two hundred and twelve

625
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 2: million dollars guaranteed over the next four years.

626
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got you understand. You understand the quarterbacks that

627
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: you're naming you you're naming no, no, but with legacies

628
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: are I'm made the position. But I'm saying those guys

629
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: hold on. It's hard finding people finding those.

630
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: Now that's your question. What year did you start playing football?

631
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: Uh?

632
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 3: And how old were you?

633
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: How were you in seventy seven?

634
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: Okay, seventy seven, So first of all, you weren't born it,

635
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 2: but anyway, so you started playing football. So now let

636
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: me ask you this. Okay, thank you, that's that's that

637
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: sounds better than me okay. They said, okay, hey, offensive

638
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 2: lineman right here, defensive lineman right here, running backs right here,

639
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: wild receivers over there, dv's over there.

640
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 3: Quarterbacks, what line did they go get in?

641
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 2: If you win and got your ass in the quarterback line,

642
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: don't give me no excuses.

643
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 3: Now, you chose to play that position.

644
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: Right right right right right, right right right right, and

645
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: you know what you got to do. You know what

646
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: you I never I never slayed quarterback at the highest level.

647
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: I played quarterback in high school. And I was okay.

648
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: I was okay, I was good.

649
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: Now you wasn't okay. I can tell I can tell.

650
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: I can tell you ain't had.

651
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: No arm blinging an arm. Matthew, I threw for seventy

652
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: two hundred yards one season. I threw for seventy two

653
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: hundred yards.

654
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 3: Man said, hey.

655
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: Man, don't hey man, I was like that at quarterback. Now,

656
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you I would like that.

657
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Speaker 3: Number shotguns. Now, do your homework.

658
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Speaker 1: Do your homework. I went a shot was under the center.

659
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: I was under the center.

660
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Speaker 3: Number two.

661
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 1: Miami be Senior High High tied, real deal. Talk to me,

662
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: holy Field.

663
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: Joe Namath, everybody know Joe Willie Namath. He guaranteed the victory.

664
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 2: Did that? He says, I wouldn't keep him. I've seen

665
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 2: enough of Zach. Wilson says, this is the Lord's point.

666
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: As a fan of a team, of the team, he says,

667
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: he's the Lord's he said, he Lord and Whalpool, and

668
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: that's at the bottom of the seat.

669
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Speaker 3: That's how I load Joe e is see.

670
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: I don't like that.

671
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 3: What you don't like about it, I don't like that.

672
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: Why why? As a player, I'm sure Joe's has some

673
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: bad years too. At sometime, at some point when Joe

674
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: is playing, he's had some bad years. He's had some

675
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: bad games, you know, multiple of them. I'm sure he has.

676
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something a lot of people tell

677
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: me on Twitter, Chad, at some point you're gonna have

678
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: to set into reality and critique these players when shit

679
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: is not going well, Man, fuck that shit. Exhoot me

680
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: for a minute, Shait. I ain't mean a curse. I

681
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: ain't mean the curse on your show. I know what

682
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: it's like to have a bad game. I know what

683
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: it's like to drop a ball. I know that feeling.

684
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: I know that feeling that not be playing at home

685
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: and drop an important third down that could have kept

686
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: a goddamn drive going and having the stands of opposing

687
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: fans fucking booing you. I've been in the New York Stadium.

688
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: I've been in New York before. I know what it's

689
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: like to play in that New York stadium and be

690
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: amongst the people in that city. They don't play that shit.

691
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: They are cutthroat, much like the Eagles fans. You have

692
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: to come out there and you have to perform. In

693
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: order to do that, you have to be very, very

694
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: confident in what you do and in yourself and then

695
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: your skills. It takes a specific type of player to

696
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: play in that environment in New York. And to me,

697
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: I think what they have done to my fucking homie,

698
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. They have drained him of the last bit

699
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: of confidence he has. And that is the goddamn problem.

700
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,239
Speaker 1: The media, Oh, the New York media don't care nothing

701
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: about you. They don't care nothing about you. You gotta

702
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: be built different to play there, man, You just got to.

703
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: Now you've got a legend and Joe Namath coming you.

704
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: If anything, you're supposed to be one of the first

705
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: ones to come behind him and say listen, Zach, I

706
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: believe in you. I know things ain't going the way

707
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: you want to, but here we go, Here we go.

708
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: He must have forgot what it's like the being in

709
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: a position like Zach is, because now you're on your

710
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: high horse. That's a legend. Oh come on, man, I can't.

711
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't bring myself. I can't bring myself

712
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: to do no bullshit like that. What that's bush? No

713
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: disrespect to Joe Namath and what he's accomplished in this NFL,

714
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: because he's a motherfucking legend. But that's some fucking bullshit

715
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: to come out and say something like that. How you

716
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: think that's gonna affect Zach? And you already got to

717
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: do He already got to deal with the New York media.

718
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: He already got to deal with the pundits scrutinized in

719
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: his every move everything. I'm just saying, I thought that shit.

720
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: That shit irks me, man, that shit urks me. That's

721
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: just my opinion. If you got some bad to say, Joe,

722
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: keep it to yourself. You ain't got to make that

723
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: shit public. You don't have to do that. The man,

724
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: the team is going through enough. Zach is going through enough,

725
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: heard it from everybody, and if anything, as a former

726
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: player of that team, a legend of that team, probably

727
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: hearing some positive from Joe Namath would have been that

728
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: picked me up. Somebody like Zach mighta need it. But

729
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: here you go. It's always the old folks too, Always

730
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: the old folks. No disrespect to Joe. Because you ask

731
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 1: my opinion, I'm just giving it to you so clearly.

732
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 3: Right now, your team, Zach Wilson.

733
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 2: You think the media, you think former players are being

734
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 2: you think analysts, pundits are being too harsh, too critical.

735
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: Three Wilson as a quarterback, is you're making a breaking year.

736
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: I understand that it is degrading scale. It is e

737
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: gauge and how they scale whether you arrived arrived or

738
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: if you haven't. Basically, it hasn't gone the way Zach

739
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: Wilson wants. It hasn't gone the way everyone else thinks

740
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: it should have gone to this point based on the

741
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: sample size that we have seen. Right me being one

742
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 1: that is a continued supporter, it ain't just Zach Wilson.

743
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: I support every goddamn body. When Bacon makeingfit, Baker Mayfield

744
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: wasn't playing well, I was supporting him any other quarterback.

745
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: When when James Wilson wasn't playing well, I was supporting him.

746
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: When two wasn't playing well, and everybody talking to I

747
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: support I've always been on the bandwagon on the positive

748
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: side of the things, trying to find something.

749
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: I think when you offer a critique of some If

750
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 2: you offer a critique someone, I think what you're doing

751
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 2: your you're misconscrewing. I can still support you and say, oho,

752
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: you was wrong in that situation.

753
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: You see, if you do something wrong.

754
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: If I, if I don't tell you you're done wrong,

755
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 2: how how much am I actually supporting you by not

756
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: telling you that you're wrong?

757
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: Well, actually you're not. You're not you're not telling me.

758
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: You're not telling them he wrong Because you want to

759
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: tell them, you would have to actually go to that

760
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: individual and tell them that they're wrong. But when you

761
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: do it in this space and on this time, that's

762
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: my job. I'm not just staying here. I'm not I'm

763
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: not just saying here or on on on on TV

764
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: of that matter. Yes, they don't take that, they don't

765
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: take it that way. They don't take it that way.

766
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 3: They're not able to.

767
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 1: You are not able to They not able to separate

768
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: the tube. They take that personal.

769
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: How is that my fault? Because I've got hold on Okay,

770
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson has a job to do. Shannon Sharp has

771
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,479
Speaker 2: a job to do. Zach Wilson is not doing his job.

772
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 2: Shannon Sharp is saying Zach Wilson isn't doing his job.

773
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 2: And in saying Zach isn't doing his job, Shannon is

774
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 2: all doing his job.

775
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 3: So how am I wrong?

776
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: There? There there's a way to say he's not getting

777
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: the job done. And your delivery delivery, delivery can be

778
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: very difficult.

779
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 3: It could be do you want the mail, yes? Or no?

780
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 2: You want your mail by nude? Or do you want

781
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 2: me to bring your mail at eight o'clock at night?

782
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 3: Yeah?

783
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: But when you when you bring the mail, your ship

784
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: the Amazon Prime. Yeah that's right, yeah, Amazon Prime and

785
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: it just being.

786
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 3: A paper shipping and handling because I'm gonna make sure

787
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 3: you get it.

788
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I have I have I apologize, and I

789
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: apologize the people that are watching the show. I have

790
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: to find a way to navigate around that and to

791
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: be able to critique players and do it in a

792
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: positive way where it's received the right ray, the right way,

793
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: and that's just somebody have to find the navigat because

794
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: there are too many positives and we just were just

795
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: hone in on what's negative, and it's always I or

796
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: this individual I. It's a team game. It's a team game,

797
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: and they're not playing well as a whole supposed to

798
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: just singling one month.

799
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question when you were doing

800
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: those celebrations. How many teammates you had with you when

801
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 2: you was doing when you was doing the saws, or

802
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 2: when you were playing golf.

803
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: Talk to me, let me tell you something. In order

804
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: for me to even celebrate. It started from the old line,

805
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: then it started the quarterback, then it started with the

806
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: running back.

807
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,959
Speaker 2: We're we're not everybody doing their job. I'm asking you,

808
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 2: how many teammates did you include in your celebrations.

809
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed because it was against the rules, so

810
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 1: I couldn't. You can include. There were no group celebrations

811
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: back then when I was playing. You know that.

812
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 2: Go ahead and take it, go and take one for

813
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 2: the teacher. All teammates, right, were together. We in this together.

814
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 1: We're a team, right, No, listen, yeah, we're a team.

815
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: But I'm the only one that was willing to lose

816
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: money behind having fun. They wasn't losing no money behind that. YO,

817
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: listen to me.

818
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 2: We we become a very sensitive soci and that especially

819
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: and because of what what happens. And I'm just talking

820
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: about when I could, especially African American, when I critique

821
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 2: black players, the first thing they try to use where

822
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: you trying to tear a brother down.

823
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,439
Speaker 1: Because you see, they can't separate the two.

824
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: And guess what, I'm still in front of them. I'm

825
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: still in front of the camera. I'm still in front

826
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 2: of the mic. I'm not to see. I'm not attacking

827
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 2: you personally. I don't know what you do in your home.

828
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about what you did, and I'm talking

829
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: about your play on the field. I think I would

830
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 2: like to think because I played the game at a

831
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 2: high enough level, and I think because I watched him

832
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: watch film, I'm able to critique you fairly. If you

833
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: play well, I'm going to say that. If you play bad,

834
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 2: I'm going to say that, why won't you ever say?

835
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 2: Why don't let mess your question? Why do the while

836
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:54,959
Speaker 2: players don't ever say?

837
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 3: Man? Man, I wish it would start praising me. Man.

838
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 2: I had this one hundred and fifty yard two touchdown gaming.

839
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 2: Oh man, that's what. I don't want that kind of praise.

840
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 3: I don't want.

841
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: I don't want that kind of I don't want that

842
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 2: kind of adoration. It's only when they play bad and

843
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 2: I point that out. Am I trying to tell the

844
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: brother down? You didn't say nothing when I built you up.

845
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: Listen, who is a harsher critique than the individual themselves? Huh?

846
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: If you play the game of football and you have

847
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: a bad game, who is your worst critic? Yourself? So

848
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: I don't I mean, as a player, we don't. I

849
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: don't need to be piggybacking. You're already feeling bad already,

850
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: but now you got to listen to the motherfuckers talking

851
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: about you too.

852
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 3: Let me ask a question.

853
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: I understand how they feel they take.

854
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 2: And it seems the greater, the greater the player that offers,

855
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 2: the greater the player that offers.

856
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 3: The critique of you, the more it stems.

857
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: You.

858
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 3: See, if Denzel says I like.

859
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 2: Your movie and you're an actress or you an actor,

860
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 2: that means something. That's then Yeah. If Magic Johnson or

861
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan says I like him, that means something yes, Sir,

862
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: Shannon Sharp has a gold jacket. Shannon Sharp says he

863
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: didn't play well, right, damn right? So how do you

864
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 2: sell How do you sell that to the fans? Because

865
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 2: I give credit what credit is due. If a guy

866
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: plays well, I'm gonna say it. If a guy plays bad,

867
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it. If I'm wrong, if I said,

868
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 2: you know what, I'll come out and say, you know what,

869
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: I was wrong about him. I missed him, I missed

870
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 2: I missed the ball. I didn't see this coming.

871
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 1: And that's little cave.

872
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 3: Nobody is. Nobody is perfect.

873
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna get Every player that they said was gonna

874
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 2: be good turns out to be great. Every player that

875
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: they say it turns out was gonna be bad if

876
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 2: that's not the case. But we we've got to stop

877
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 2: this notion that somebody is hating on you because they

878
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: said you didn't play well.

879
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 1: You're saying, you're saying, we need to stop this notion,

880
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: but it hasn't stopped and it never will stop. Because

881
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: players feel a certain way.

882
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 2: They start and guess what, and they got more and

883
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 2: more shows like you and I are popping up. So

884
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 2: guess what else? If you're gonna stop people offer critiques

885
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 2: of said players.

886
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 3: Right right.

887
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: About it. Most of the shows can all the shows

888
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: can pop up as pop up as much as they want,

889
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: but very few have the accolades and the resume to

890
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 1: be doing the talking right. And I'm one of the

891
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: few that have the resume and accolade to do the talking.

892
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: But I know what it feels like. I know what

893
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: it feels like. They have a bad game. Yes to me,

894
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: it's hard to do it, but you know what I do.

895
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: How about I do this? How about before I start

896
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: when somebody has a bad game, how about I just

897
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: make a disclaimer? No, how about I make a disclaimer

898
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: or about this individual? Listen, I see you and hold

899
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: you to a different standard because you got you hear,

900
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 1: and you know how I feel about you, and you

901
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: know I love you because I've been talking about you

902
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: great for ten plushes.

903
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: But see that they forget all about they forget all

904
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,959
Speaker 2: about that, They forget all about that, they forget every

905
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: great thing that I said, and just remember the way.

906
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 1: But what I'll do, I'll do that have a disclaimer

907
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: on all the positive I said, So this one little negative,

908
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: this is what you could do better based on what

909
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: I saw because I hold you to a different standard,

910
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: and this is what I expect from you when I

911
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: do that? Can I do that?

912
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 2: Everybody? Everybody knows how I feel about Lebron. You've heard

913
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: me go on TV and say Lebron didn't play well.

914
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 2: I need Lebron to play better. Lebron is going to

915
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: respect that because he knows that I'm I don't got

916
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 2: no nobody.

917
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: Lebron is built different, He's different. Lebron can handle that.

918
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 1: He's been dealing with that since high school. He've been

919
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: dealing with positive the negative. He's able to navigate. It's

920
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: not personal.

921
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question, what professional affat.

922
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: Lebron built differently?

923
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 3: Here?

924
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: What what professional athlete has gotten one thousand percent support

925
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: all the way through. Everybody's been doubted, everybody's been said,

926
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: he ain't gonna make it, he can't, she can't.

927
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: Oh whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa with

928
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: these yeah, they there have been there. There is levels

929
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: of that. Now, let's don't go there. It's level you

930
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: thought Lebron's level and pressure of doubt from high schools,

931
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 1: being chosen and being the next great one and actually

932
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: living up to it. Man, that is well'm I think he's.

933
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: But here's the thing. But here's the thing. But here,

934
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 3: but here's the thing.

935
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 2: There have been a lot of there have been a

936
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: not to the level of Lebron, but there have been

937
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: a lot of guys that was supposed to be that

938
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: guy and didn't do it.

939
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: It's hard to live up to that. It's very difficult

940
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: to live up to that. You know how hard for

941
00:44:54,360 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 1: one longevity? Longevity, yeah, twenty one season yeah. Discipline, consistency, yes,

942
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: and staying focused and locked in, you know how difficult.

943
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: And it is to have that combination for a long

944
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: extended period of time and sustain that and a.

945
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: Lot of very difficult to do, and a lot of

946
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 3: people it drives.

947
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: See, I'm old enough to remember before Jordan's started winning

948
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 2: championships what they said about him, that he couldn't win,

949
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 2: that he was a selfish player and he was taking

950
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 2: illing by shots, and it was all about him.

951
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 3: See everybody.

952
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 2: Once he started winning, everybody forgot the seven eight years

953
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: that they said all those things about it. But he

954
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: he cataloged it, kept it in the back of his

955
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: mind and used that as fuel. Same thing with Kobe,

956
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 2: Tiger Woods, at all these I don't care what level

957
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 2: you play that there they Yeah, I'm saying those guys,

958
00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 2: but everybody has had doubt, that has been doubted at

959
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 2: some point in time in their life. So we can

960
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 2: talk about the world's richest man, or we could talk

961
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 2: about somebody that's working working an hourly job. They've been doubted.

962
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 2: Right now, what are you gonna do? Are you in

963
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 2: the h man they doubted me. Let me go ahead

964
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: and prove them right. I ain't gonna mountain an ish.

965
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 3: No, I'm not. See.

966
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 2: I've never tried to prove anybody wrong. I've just tried

967
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 2: to prove me right. And in the process of doing that,

968
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 2: you'll be wrong.

969
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmm.

970
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:29,920
Speaker 3: But you got but you got it.

971
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 2: But oh Joe, like you said, you got the credentials,

972
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: you played at a high level. It wasn't like you

973
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 2: some bum that you were just collecting the check. It

974
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 2: was just the body out of that boy. Now, I

975
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: don't do that.

976
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: I told you what I was gonna do on some

977
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 1: on on Wednesday throughout the media. I sent the DBS

978
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: and the and I sent him a gift and went

979
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: out there and did it. Every week for a decade straight.

980
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 1: I had some fun. But again, you.

981
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 2: Try to tell so you trying to tell brother down

982
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 2: what you did. You try to bring them down doing that.

983
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: But but I also know what it's like to have

984
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: a bad game. I know what that feel like. Oh

985
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: I felt bad. I feel very bad because that was

986
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: my harshest critic.

987
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 2: You make it seem like Zach Wilson has had one

988
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: bad game. He had three bad years. We ain't talking

989
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: about no one game.

990
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: Okay, three, okay, he had three bad years. I remember

991
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: I had a relationship. I had a relationship. I was

992
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: in three years and she left me. She left you. Well,

993
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 1: hold and listen. I did all I can. I went

994
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: to practice, I did film study. You know, Zach Wilson

995
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: doing all that. He's studying. He's working hard, doing everything.

996
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 3: Leave Why she leaves?

997
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 1: Why she leave you for some for some some other dudes,

998
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: some some some some some some I don't know. I

999
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: don't see, I don't know.

1000
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 3: She didn't want you be to tell me somebody didn't want.

1001
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: Oh no, I want yeah, this is you know this

1002
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: is she ain't want Chad Johnston. Yeah, we young. I

1003
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: hadn't even made it yet. I hain't even made it yet. Yeah,

1004
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: you some street dude.

1005
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 3: Have you bumped into her? Have you ever bumped into

1006
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 3: her since? Yeah?

1007
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: I bumped into it about two years ago.

1008
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 3: And what she says, Hey, Hey, Chad, how you doing.

1009
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I couldn't even hear.

1010
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 3: Wow, Chad, don't do that. Don't do that. Oh Jose,

1011
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 3: listen to me. Listen to me.

1012
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: I couldn't you left me because you went to somebody

1013
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: that had more money at the time when I hadn't

1014
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: made it. You didn't want you didn't You didn't I was.

1015
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: I was on my journey, on my way, and I

1016
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: just had what you was looking for at that time.

1017
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: But you left me for something temporary. And now he's

1018
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: doing twenty four years in the pen. He's four years now.

1019
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: Listen to me. I can't I can't even hear I

1020
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 1: can't even hear you based on what I got on

1021
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: my hip. Now I can't even see you.

1022
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 3: No, you're supposed to go out of your way to

1023
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 3: make sure she sees you. Heirl, How you doing? Why

1024
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 3: are you How a her ain't seeing you in a Wow?

1025
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 3: How you doing? How you mama? You asking the mess?

1026
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 3: They need to know.

1027
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 1: Listen. She knows I hit it with that, hit it

1028
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: with that that ra hit it with that Ray Charles,

1029
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: I can't, I don't, I can't even see you mean, but.

1030
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 2: See that's but see that's the thing. You got to

1031
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 2: let them know. See that why I was. I used

1032
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 2: to block people. I used to block people on social media.

1033
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 2: Do all that I stopped blocking. You need to see

1034
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 2: me happen. You need you need to see me getting

1035
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: all this what God intended for me. What you tried,

1036
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,959
Speaker 2: what you tried to block, I didn't let you see

1037
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 2: God still open in the windows, blowing out them blessings.

1038
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, and listen and for you

1039
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: if you want them blessings to keep coming, and you

1040
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: want that cup to keep running over. Yeah, all you

1041
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 1: need is to look. All you need is a little guidance.

1042
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: And you know the kind of guidance you need. You

1043
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: know where it comes from. And what kind of guidance. Huh,

1044
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: A woman's guidance.

1045
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 3: Uh, there you go, a woman.

1046
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: Listen to me. A woman. A woman, A woman is

1047
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: your will, be your GPS, get you wherever you need

1048
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: to go, from point A to point B. You know

1049
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: what else? If you had your woman. You know, if

1050
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 1: you had a woman in your life, you know what

1051
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: else you wouldn't.

1052
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 3: Be doing what.

1053
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: You wouldn't be flying private?

1054
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't she gonna be flying right with me?

1055
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: No, sir, she ain't gonna let you spend that kind

1056
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,359
Speaker 1: of money. She ain't spend that kind of money. No,

1057
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 1: she ain't because if she lets you spend that kind

1058
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: of money, she with you for the wrong reasons.

1059
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: No. No, oh yo.

1060
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 2: My grandfather used to say, boy, be as cheap as

1061
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 2: you want to, but don't be cheap to yourself.

1062
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 3: Now, how did you tell me that?

1063
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 2: Since that it makes I work the hardest and spend

1064
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 2: the least amount of my money.

1065
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 3: Now you tell me what since that may.

1066
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: Got to say that for a rainy day, baby, gotta

1067
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 1: save it for a rainy day, saving for a rainy

1068
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: day after after come on, and many of them are

1069
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: gonna come.

1070
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 3: I ain't promised tomorrow. When did God promise you tomorrow?

1071
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: Okay, so you want me to say for a rainy

1072
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 2: day that I'm not promised to see?

1073
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, I like that. Like you know, I don't

1074
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: even have no comeback for you today, only because right

1075
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: now I'm in I'm in heaven. I in heaven. I'm yeah,

1076
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: I'm in heaven right now. I'm feeling good. I'm just

1077
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: I'm been smoking my cigar, just drink drinking a yat.

1078
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 3: I'm just mad.

1079
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 2: Ah so you you so you still so so. In

1080
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: other words, you throw your unbridled support. I mean, you

1081
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 2: just all in on the Zach Wilson train.

1082
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: Listen, I'm all in them everybody. You know, you don't

1083
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,919
Speaker 1: follow me on social media, but if if for those

1084
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,359
Speaker 1: that have followed me throughout the years, they know I

1085
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: always find a positive about anying everybody, especially when they're

1086
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: playing bad. It's just we have always been looking for mortgage.

1087
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: You're playing for college tuition, you're playing for jobs. Yes,

1088
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know.

1089
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 3: What what job? What job gonna let you stay on it?

1090
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,959
Speaker 2: You not doing the younot fulfilling the job that that's

1091
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 2: required of you. But they say, you know what, we're

1092
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 2: gonna stay positive. We will, We're gonna remain positive. Where

1093
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 2: do they do that at?

1094
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: Why? Why? Why I got to jump on the band

1095
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 1: when when everybody don't jump on your head? Band wagon

1096
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: not a bandwagon. And I'm just saying, why do I

1097
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,720
Speaker 1: have to do what everybody else is doing and jumping

1098
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: on you when you're not playing, well, why why can't.

1099
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 3: You what you're supposed to do? Tell me what you're

1100
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 3: supposed to do.

1101
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 2: You're supposed to offer critique of what transpired doing the

1102
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 2: course of the game, based on your years of experience

1103
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 2: and your expertise.

1104
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 3: So you denying your gift.

1105
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 2: God gave you a gift to play the game and

1106
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,840
Speaker 2: to get gameful of Do you know how many guys

1107
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 2: that played a professional sport that would love to be

1108
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 2: in your shoes, that would love to offer a critique

1109
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 2: that didn't get that luxury, So you do, in other words,

1110
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: you denying God's gift. God gave you a gift.

1111
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, he gave me a gift. And God gave me

1112
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: a gift, and I understand the purpose of that gift.

1113
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: The purpose of that gift was the uplift to uplift

1114
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: to reach out, see lend the hand.

1115
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 3: See what you did? You see?

1116
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 2: Because you figured that if you offer a critique to someone,

1117
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 2: you beating them down.

1118
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 3: That's it right there.

1119
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: Not not really, because I already told you what I'm

1120
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: going to work on is I'm going to have my

1121
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: disclaimer already ready that I always get my critique.

1122
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,479
Speaker 2: Because here's the thing, because now tell me, I can't

1123
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 2: say you can't say whatever you But here's the thing.

1124
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 2: The person at home will say, oh, cho is not

1125
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: being truthful, because being.

1126
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: Truthful, all I'm saying is that this flaming is so

1127
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: and so I see you and hold you to a

1128
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: certain standard, and this is what I expect. But that's

1129
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: not the standard I got intoday.

1130
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,279
Speaker 3: You don't have to do all that. Why you doing?

1131
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: I want to because I can, because I don't. I

1132
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: don't want. I don't want to. I don't want to

1133
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: be taking away because I understand.

1134
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 3: What I have to do. Spa your truth, to speak

1135
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:28,760
Speaker 3: your truth.

1136
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 2: Them guys got you scared because you gonna bump into

1137
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 2: them and they're gonna say, oh Joe, why you criticize me?

1138
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: And I just had to be there.

1139
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 3: I had to be.

1140
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 1: I had to be their ass. What you're talking about?

1141
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: I criticized Aaron Donald. If Aaron Donald walk up with me,

1142
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna Donald run

1143
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 1: run scared of who ain't scared nobody?

1144
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 3: Aaron?

1145
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: I love you, baby, You ain't gonna criticize.

1146
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 3: I mean, look, but he.

1147
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: I don't see. I'm not comfortable with that. You comfortable

1148
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 1: with that. I'm not. I'm just not. It's just just

1149
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: the way I'm just the way I'm built, just the

1150
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: way I'm just. I just I can't explain it in

1151
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: other words, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna navigate it,

1152
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna be mean to somebody and just

1153
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: say fuck it.

1154
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 2: Nah, you ain't gotta be mean. It's not to be

1155
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: about being mean. The people at home, see the people

1156
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 2: at home, see guys are not playing well. What makes

1157
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 2: them upset is that when somebody's not playing well and

1158
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 2: people try to pretend and announcers try to pretend like

1159
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 2: they are or try to say, well that was his fault.

1160
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 3: WHOA, No, it wasn't.

1161
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: I didn't.

1162
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 3: I didn't.

1163
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 1: I didn't say anybody was playing well. I didn't say

1164
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 1: anybody was. I just try to navigate and find ways

1165
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 1: around it, to find the positives and what they are doing.

1166
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 3: That's all.

1167
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 2: Look, if you play a professional sport, nobody cares. If

1168
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 2: you give to the homeless, that's not what we're talking

1169
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 2: about at this moment. We can get into your philanthropic work.

1170
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 2: We can get into all that other stuff. You could

1171
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 2: be a benefactor or magnanimous as you choose to be.

1172
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 2: But when you play professional sports, our job is to

1173
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: critique and analyze said person in said sport.

1174
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: That's it. Okay, how about this? How about this? From

1175
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: now on, I'm gonna critique and analyze. That's it. Critique

1176
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,239
Speaker 1: and analyze, and I'm I'm finna be I'm finna be

1177
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: on a motherfucker ass now, Okay, Pauls.

1178
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:35,439
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, yeah, Paul Oh whoa, whoa hold on.

1179
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 3: Let me hit this, Let me hit this, Pauls. But

1180
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 3: right quick, heavy with that one, okay you.

1181
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready.

1182
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 3: Well, oh, Jo, congratulations.

1183
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 2: I know this night was very very special for you

1184
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,919
Speaker 2: and your family and friends to go to go into

1185
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: a team's ring of honor. It goes to show you

1186
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 2: that that doesn't go on unknown unbeknowns because a lot

1187
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 2: of people said, you know what, we think his play

1188
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 2: on the field and his behavior off the field is

1189
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 2: worthy of him representing the Cincinnati Bengals from perpetuity.

1190
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, mm hmmm.

1191
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 3: I like that. I like that. I like that.

1192
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm gonna get one of them gold

1193
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: ones too. Yeah, I'm gonna get gonna get I'm getting

1194
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: them gold on to and if.

1195
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go.

1196
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no no, I'm gonna I'm

1197
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: gonna make me a gold one. I'm gonna make me

1198
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: want I'm gonna make my own, make my own bus,

1199
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: to make my own buss because I know where they

1200
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 1: get I know where they I know where they get

1201
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: him done at huh. And it's gonna be one of

1202
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: it's gonna be one on one. Yeah, it's gonna be

1203
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:46,919
Speaker 1: one on one.

1204
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1205
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: Well yeah, one on one, one one, make my own way,

1206
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: make my own hall of fame. Hey, Joe, right back,

1207
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: sleep man, Who is that you saying you wanted to bus?

1208
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: You're saying you wanted to buy you see the part

1209
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: you see you see that part?

1210
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 3: You see that part.

1211
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,439
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. I'm gona I'm gonna

1212
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: get me one. I'm gonna give me a bus made

1213
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: and mine mine gonna be fourteen carry gold one on one.

1214
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 3: Oh you oh you're gonna spend that kind of money?

1215
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, oh yeah, because they they they ain't

1216
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: gonna spend it on me. I got I gotta I

1217
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: gotta do with me what you told me, told me

1218
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: I did. Yeah, I'm gonna make my own hall I

1219
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: make my own Hall of Fame jacket, make my own jacket. Yeah,

1220
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: what's what's some mo? Yeah, well, I'm gonna putting fourteen

1221
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: carry gold glitter on my jacket.

1222
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 2: If if I you know what you know now and

1223
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 2: I can transport you back to your rookie season. Yes, sir,

1224
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 2: what type of numbers do you believe OO could put.

1225
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: Up to my rookie see in today's game.

1226
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 2: I WU you know what you know now, right, but

1227
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 2: I'm going to transport you back to your rookie season

1228
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 2: with the knowledge that you have.

1229
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 1: Now of the game, right, Yes, I think consistently probably

1230
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 1: fourteen hundred consistently consistently. Then there's a fifteen consistently fourteen

1231
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: hundred consistently.

1232
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 3: Fourteen fourteen Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1233
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 1: I mean, especially during that time in that era, dealing

1234
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: with that Ravens defense and dealing with that that Pittsburgh defense.

1235
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: You know, the numbers get it a little low when

1236
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: you play against them, But as far as everyone else, yeah,

1237
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,880
Speaker 1: I'm just being honest. Them boys ain't playing Just being honest.

1238
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: But outside of the division it's oh, I'm going crazy,

1239
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: but you know those divisional games are always close and

1240
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 1: they really minimize minimize my production very very well. Right, yeah,

1241
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: especially with what I know now. I wish, I wish,

1242
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: I wish it was reversed.

1243
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 3: Well.

1244
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 2: Congratulations Ocho on your night for you and your family

1245
01:00:03,640 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 2: and loved ones. I'm your favorite Uncle Shannon Sharp, He's

1246
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,160
Speaker 2: your favorite number eighty five, Chad O Cho Senko Johnson

1247
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 2: and thank you for tuning in to Nightcap with Uncle Ocho.

1248
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: See you Thursday, Doll call me if you need me.

1249
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:19,919
Speaker 1: My numbers stead the same