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Speaker 2: Oh, good morning everybody.

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Speaker 3: We've got Rich Ornberger, Jared Smith with us on Brian

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Speaker 3: though nothing like that.

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Speaker 1: Hey, good morning.

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Speaker 3: As you're wiping the crust out of your eyes, let's

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Speaker 3: talk suspension.

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Speaker 2: John ran out for twenty five games.

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Speaker 4: You know, yay, Yeah, it's the old military bucket of

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Speaker 4: water right on your body.

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Speaker 2: Ooh my goodness, what's going on over here?

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Speaker 3: But that's what was handed down yesterday, twenty five game

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Speaker 3: suspension for Grizzly star John Morant was the second gun

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Speaker 3: video on social media, and fellas, this is that's what

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Speaker 3: stands up most to me. It wasn't Adam Silver's statement,

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Speaker 3: the NBA commissioner, it wasn't John Morant's statement, It was

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Speaker 3: the NBPA, it was the player's association and so the

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Speaker 3: statement reads, I got to read this whole thing. It's

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Speaker 3: not war and peace, but it's a couple of sentences.

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Speaker 3: This is what the Players Association said. Jah has expressed

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Speaker 3: his remorse and accepted responsibility for his actions, and we

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Speaker 3: support him unequivocally as he does whatever is necessary to

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Speaker 3: represent himself, our players in our league in the best

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Speaker 3: possible light. As the discipline imposed. As to the discipline

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Speaker 3: impost which keeps him off the court until December and

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Speaker 3: requires some unstated conditions to be met before he can return,

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Speaker 3: we believe it is excessive and inappropriate for a number

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Speaker 3: of reasons, including the facts involved in this particular incident,

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Speaker 3: and that it is not fair and consistent with past

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Speaker 3: discipline in our league. We will explore with jaw all

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Speaker 3: options and next steps. Okay, here's the deal. The NBPA

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Speaker 3: is supposed to fight for the players. This statement is

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Speaker 3: actually fighting against ja Morant. The last thing that you

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Speaker 3: need to see with Jahn Morant is him thinking I

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Speaker 3: got jobbed. This is excessive, This is inappropriate when he's

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Speaker 3: missing games in October and November, and you don't want

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Speaker 3: any thoughts creeping in of I should be out there.

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Speaker 3: This is on Adam Silver. This is on the NBA.

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Speaker 3: They got something against me. That is the worst possible

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Speaker 3: place for jah Morant to be. And I find it

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Speaker 3: so interesting that the NBPA, which is supposed to do

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Speaker 3: right by its players, and it's thinking of the precedent

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Speaker 3: set and what might happen going forward.

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Speaker 2: You got to think.

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Speaker 3: Here and now for Jahn Morant and to plant the

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Speaker 3: seed of him thinking I got jobbed.

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Speaker 2: He could get off on the wrong path again.

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Speaker 3: I think they did an awful job and they did

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Speaker 3: disservice to the kid.

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Speaker 5: Well, here's the deal.

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Speaker 4: The NBA PA is not his dad, you know. And

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Speaker 4: on Father's Day weekend, like this is the perfect topic

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Speaker 4: because the reality is this is like blaming Brian your

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Speaker 4: financial advisor for trying to make you more money because

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Speaker 4: you know you're spending it all on you know, drugs

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Speaker 4: and women. You know it's your financial advisor's job to

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Speaker 4: make you money, you know, so he's not to blame

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Speaker 4: if what you do with your money is spend time,

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Speaker 4: you know, doing things you shouldn't be.

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Speaker 5: Like the.

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Speaker 4: Players Association, their job is to defend players. It's not

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Speaker 4: to teach you how to be a man. He's screwed up, right,

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Speaker 4: So they're gonna step in and they're gonna say, we

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Speaker 4: are protecting our athletes from being taken advantage by ownership,

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Speaker 4: because yes, well, this looks like discipline on the outside.

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Speaker 4: It also is a huge discount for the Memphis Grizzlies

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Speaker 4: in the meantime because they're not gonna have to pay

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Speaker 4: him a single dollar. And oh, by the way, NBA

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Speaker 4: charities are going to get a huge wellspring of money.

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Speaker 4: And I mean, this is not good for anybody. This

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Speaker 4: isn't good for Jah. The fact that he needs to

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Speaker 4: whether he needs to or not is up for debate.

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Speaker 4: This isn't good for the NBA, This isn't good for

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Speaker 4: the players Association.

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Speaker 5: Nobody looks good here.

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Speaker 4: And it's all because Jah decided to waive a gun,

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Speaker 4: whether fake or actual, on Instagram twice over the course

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Speaker 4: and say, like some entity outside of his household needs

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Speaker 4: to step in and play daddy here. It just feels like, no,

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Speaker 4: Jah needs to make better decisions. He's a grown man.

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Speaker 6: Historically speaking, I don't understand how people can think this

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Speaker 6: is a harsh suspension. So if you look at the

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Speaker 6: biggest suspensions in the history of the NBA, the biggest

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Speaker 6: one was the Malice of the Palace. Our test got

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Speaker 6: eighty six games for that. Obviously, that's a different circumstance,

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Speaker 6: right Charlespriwell got sixty eight for choking PJ. Carlissimo Gilbert Arenas.

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Speaker 6: This one is in the realm, fifty games for bringing

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Speaker 6: a gun into the arena and for the altercation that

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Speaker 6: he had with his teammate. Twice as many games for

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Speaker 6: Gilbert for bringing the gun into the arena. I think

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Speaker 6: that's fair, right. So I again, if we're talking about

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Speaker 6: the fairness of the suspension and whether or not the

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Speaker 6: players Association is doing right by job by, I guess

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Speaker 6: enabling him to think that maybe he did get jobbed.

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Speaker 6: I don't think the historical data backs that up. I'm

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Speaker 6: looking at at Miles Bridges got a thirty game suspension

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Speaker 6: very recently a few months ago for domestic violence.

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Speaker 1: That is more.

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Speaker 6: Than what jagat for what he allegedly did and what

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Speaker 6: and again we can go into the specifics of the

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Speaker 6: behind the scenes counseling and all the other things that

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Speaker 6: he has to do. But you know, we're just talking

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Speaker 6: about the games in terms of a currency here. It

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Speaker 6: doesn't feel like it's a harsh suspension at all.

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Speaker 1: Frankly, it feels.

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Speaker 6: Like, I don't want to say slap on the risk,

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Speaker 6: but it feels like the NBA is saying, you're gonna

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Speaker 6: miss the part of the season that nobody cares about,

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Speaker 6: and we'll see in December January and everything will be

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Speaker 6: hunky dory com postseason.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 6: So I don't understand the thinking, the level of thinking

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Speaker 6: think I think a reasonable person goes back and looks

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Speaker 6: at some of the suspensions that have been levied by

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Speaker 6: the league, and I would put Jack kind of in

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Speaker 6: the you know, the realm of fairness here compared to

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Speaker 6: what some of the other players at the high end

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was a repeat offense two months, absolutely right.

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Speaker 3: You got to take that into account. And that's where

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Speaker 3: I go back to the NBPA, where look at it

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Speaker 3: like this, they're sticking up for John. They're saying this

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Speaker 3: is excessive, this is inappropriate, what's up with this?

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Speaker 2: This isn't right. YadA, YadA, YadA YadA.

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Speaker 3: Not the perfect comparison. But let's just play this game

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Speaker 3: if I'm in school. Let's say I'm back in my

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Speaker 3: high school days and I mess up, I do something

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Speaker 3: wrong and it's pretty serious, and the school wants to

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Speaker 3: suspend me, they want to punish me, and my parents

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Speaker 2: This is excessive, this is inappropriate. This should not be

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Speaker 3: I mean, come on, our son has shown remorse, he's

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Speaker 2: Why do you have to lower the boom like this?

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Speaker 3: It could frame my mindset of I got worked here,

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Speaker 3: this is the system that's against me, and I'm a victim,

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Speaker 3: and really like the NBPA in this situation, they are

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Speaker 3: doing a disservice. Now, let me make this clear. It's

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Speaker 3: up to Jo going forward. I'm not making excuses on

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Speaker 3: his behalf. He's got to be an adult, he's got

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Speaker 3: to mature. It's his fault he's in this position. No

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Speaker 3: one can make good decisions for Jaw. He has to

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Speaker 3: be the one to do it. So I'm not shifting

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Speaker 3: the blame on the NBPA because Jaw's in this situation

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Speaker 3: begin with. But now that he's here, you have to

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Speaker 3: put him in the best possible position to get things

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Speaker 3: right going forward. And this what the NBPA did, is

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Speaker 3: not it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean again, like the way I look at

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Speaker 4: the MVPA or any player's union, it's to try to

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Speaker 4: make it so that you're setting precedent for players in

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Speaker 4: the future, you know, because there are guys who get

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Speaker 4: jobbed with their suspension, with how long of a bid

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Speaker 4: they get for you know, the infraction, and so they're

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Speaker 4: always going to try to argue down a suspension, especially

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Speaker 4: a significant one, especially with such a you know, high

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Speaker 4: profile situation like this, whether or not that's the best

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Speaker 4: thing psychologically for the player or not. It's kind of

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Speaker 4: out of their jurisdiction.

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Speaker 7: You know how.

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Speaker 4: Every once in a while, you see on the cop shows,

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Speaker 4: you know, the bad guy flees the state and you

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Speaker 4: see the the you know, the Texas Rangers you know,

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Speaker 4: And they're like, well, they got jurisdiction to chase that

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Speaker 4: fugitive as far and as wide.

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Speaker 1: Rich Orenburger Texas Ranger impression.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Like, you know, it's all

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Speaker 4: of a sudden, like a guy with like the five

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Speaker 4: o'clock shadow finishing a cigarette, stomping it out, It's like, well, good.

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Speaker 6: Luck, mustache, handlebars going down, Yeah, let's.

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Speaker 2: Say right off, kicking up dust in the sunset.

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Speaker 4: It's like, well, yeah, you know, certain places you have

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Speaker 4: I just don't think. I don't think it's up to

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Speaker 4: them to decide, you know, from like a personality standpoint,

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Speaker 4: from from almost a therapy point of view, or a

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Speaker 4: therapist's point of view, what's best for job, From a

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Speaker 4: motivational or a psychological standpoint, I think their job is

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Speaker 4: to maximize the dollar amount that the players around then

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Speaker 4: NBA are going to make while they're in And so

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Speaker 4: it's somebody else's role to step in and play, you know,

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Speaker 4: father figure or best friend with good advice. You know,

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Speaker 4: they somebody needs to walk into this guy's life if

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Speaker 4: they're not already there, or somebody who has influence over

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Speaker 4: Jah who can step in and be that voice for

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Speaker 4: him to make better decisions, needs to step in and

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Speaker 4: help them along. Whether it's a coach with the Memphis Grizzlies,

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Speaker 4: maybe it's an executive. Maybe it's one of his older teammates.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's a buddy from back home. Maybe it's his dad,

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Speaker 4: his uncle. Maybe it's a grandpa or a grandma or

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Speaker 4: an auntie, or I mean, like somebody, somebody a sister.

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Speaker 4: I don't know his siblings situation. Somebody needs to step

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Speaker 4: in the frame and play that advocate role, because that

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Speaker 4: isn't that's not what the Player Union does. My interactions

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Speaker 4: NFL was hey, I just got fined because I low

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Speaker 4: blocked somebody, and it's you know, it's a Wednesday after

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Speaker 2: Is there any way I can fight this?

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Speaker 4: And then, you know, some union rep puts me on

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Speaker 4: hold for a second. Maybe they take a second look

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Speaker 4: at the film to go, yeah, no, you don't have

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Speaker 4: a case here.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, you're gonna have to pay this one, or they

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Speaker 5: say oh no, no, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Let's take a closer look at the video. We'll get

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Speaker 3: I just think Gilbert an awful job man, NVP. I

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Speaker 2: Nothing nobody hurt there.

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Speaker 4: Okay, but okay, But but when you bring a gun

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Speaker 3: we're not done with drama over here. We had a

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Speaker 1: Yep?

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Speaker 3: What happens if we're back in the playoffs and Diggs

441
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Speaker 3: has one target in the first half? What then? The

442
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 3: NFL is hard enough, These teams are hard enough to beat.

443
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Speaker 3: But when you are taking active steps in beating yourself,

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Speaker 3: that's what does you in down the road.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know what, you know what's really crazy

446
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Speaker 4: about this whole situation is Sean McDermott got a whole

447
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Speaker 4: lot of credit for being a really good head coach.

448
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Speaker 4: And by the way, not just on the outside looking in,

449
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 4: from a lot of people like us, you know who

450
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Speaker 4: you know show up every day with their microphone and

451
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Speaker 4: cast opinions or you know have a you know, number

452
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Speaker 4: two pencil and write things down and then later on

453
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Speaker 4: type of articles like this is from people on the

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Speaker 4: inside who know personally what's going on inside the building

455
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Speaker 4: in Buffalo, like have said, no, this guy's the real deal,

456
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Speaker 4: Sean McDermott, And that may still be true, but we

457
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Speaker 4: can't discount the fact that Brian Dable has left the

458
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Speaker 4: building and ever since that happened, the Buffalo Bills. I'm

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Speaker 4: not saying it's a different.

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Speaker 6: Picture, but it is a little tilted, you know, like

461
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Speaker 6: incredibly different.

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Speaker 4: You're walking past the picture in the hallway and you're like,

463
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Speaker 4: you know, last year that picture was straight.

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Speaker 1: What's going on then?

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Speaker 2: Why is it always slanted? Why?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well just look at the numbers.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the numbers say that Josh Allen's a bit

468
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Speaker 6: of a different quarterback, especially.

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Speaker 1: Last year with the turnovers.

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Speaker 6: And I don't want to make this an indictment on

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Speaker 6: Josh Allen and the Bills offense, but I agree one

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Speaker 6: hundred percent Brian with the take of this is it's

473
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Speaker 6: easy to overcome adversity in June when there's no games.

474
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 6: When there's games and the media is asking questions about

475
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Speaker 6: why you might miss the playoffs because you just lost

476
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Speaker 6: three in a row. That's where, right, Because when do

477
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Speaker 6: the most heated candid moments tend to take place during

478
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Speaker 6: the NFL season, Right after a loss, some guy says

479
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Speaker 6: something and then it leaks, and then it becomes a story,

480
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 6: and then it becomes a bigger distraction. We're in the

481
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Speaker 6: point now in the season where it's easy to cover

482
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Speaker 6: up distractions.

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Speaker 1: There's no games, there's not a lot of media availability.

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Speaker 6: There's we're just starting to see the videos of the

485
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Speaker 6: guys practicing and it's really not that intense and everything's right.

486
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Speaker 6: It's it's kind of like when you're playing around of golf.

487
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Speaker 6: It's like the first hole, right, why I'm ulligan breakfast ball,

488
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Speaker 6: no big deal. But on the eighteenth hole or you know,

489
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Speaker 6: when you're making then and all of a sudden, things

490
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 6: get a little rocky. That's when the clubs start getting

491
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Speaker 6: fired into the woods or they get snapped off because

492
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Speaker 6: I just, you know, hooked a drive in the fairway

493
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Speaker 6: bunker and I can't get out of it. Like that's

494
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Speaker 6: the when the adversity happens. And let's be honest, I

495
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Speaker 6: love this Buffalo Bills team. They're obviously one of the

496
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Speaker 6: better teams in the NFL. But Josh Allen might not

497
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Speaker 6: even be the best quarterback in his division this year

498
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Speaker 6: because there's a new guy in this division that just

499
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Speaker 6: came and he's already won a Super Bowl and he's

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Speaker 6: pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 6: I know, Aaron Rodgers is on the back nine of

503
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Speaker 6: his career and Josh Allen's on the front nine.

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Speaker 1: I get that.

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Speaker 6: But my point being, this is not just an open

506
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Speaker 6: and shutcase even in their own division and they're expected

507
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Speaker 6: to win a Super Bowl. I'll be honest, I do

508
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Speaker 6: see a lot of regression with the Bills this year,

509
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Speaker 6: aside from anything that's happening with with the dig story,

510
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Speaker 6: just based off of another year without stable, another year

511
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Speaker 6: where Josh Allen has to kind of grow up a

512
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Speaker 6: little bit, and I don't know, oh, maybe we saw

513
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Speaker 6: the best of Josh Allen already and now Sean McDermott

514
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Speaker 6: who has to be the head coach and the defensive

515
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Speaker 6: coordinator and clean up all these messes. It just it

516
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Speaker 6: feels like we're heading towards a road where things might

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Speaker 6: get out of hand for the Bills. And by the

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Speaker 6: way they play the Jets week one Monday Night, on

519
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Speaker 6: the road in a tough game where they're a favorite

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Speaker 6: in the division.

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Speaker 1: Not an easy start.

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Speaker 3: It's a tough division, it's a loaded conference. Yeah, and

523
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 3: details like this matter. It just feels like Diggs is

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Speaker 3: upset about January still in June hot.

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Speaker 2: We still don't know what it is. But good lord,

526
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Speaker 2: you can't have this type of stuff.

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Speaker 1: That's the weird. How do we not know what it

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Speaker 1: is yet? It's just like, what is he so mad about?

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Speaker 1: I don't understand. I don't get it. I don't get it.

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Speaker 3: But it could get over bro, A lot of problems

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Speaker 3: going forward could absolutely No.

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Speaker 1: It's dollars way football. Get over it.

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Speaker 3: You know what you spoke about regression just a minute

534
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Speaker 3: ago there, Jared. There is no regression today because our

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Speaker 3: main man, Nick Cope is in for I Low.

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Speaker 2: He's got some information for us.

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Speaker 1: Dick.

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00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: What's going on, buddy?

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Speaker 7: What's going on? Guys? It is moving day at the

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Speaker 7: US Open.

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Speaker 8: Ricky Fowler leads through thirty six holes at ten under par.

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Speaker 8: Wyndham Clark is one shot back in second. Rory McElroy

543
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Speaker 8: and Xander Schanfley both two shots back in minus eight.

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Speaker 7: Third round will get under way about twelve.

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Speaker 8: Thirty Eastern, and the leaders will tee off in the

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Speaker 8: three pm Eastern hour. Some of the late scorers in baseball,

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00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 8: Dodgers were no hitting the Giants through six innings, but

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Speaker 8: San Francisco rallied for a seven to five win in

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Speaker 8: eleven innings. Giants have now won five straight. Mariners edged

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Speaker 8: the White Sox three to two, raised top the Padres

551
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 8: six to two. Tampa now a big league best fifty

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Speaker 8: one to twenty two. D Back snapped a three game

553
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Speaker 8: skid with a five to one win against the Guardians,

554
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Speaker 8: and the Phillies won their fourth straight with a six

555
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Speaker 8: to one victory against the A's.

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Speaker 7: Had some drama on Day one.

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00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 8: Of the College World Series, where Oral Roberts beat TCU

558
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Speaker 8: and Florida beat Virginia, both teams winning with ninth in

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Speaker 8: and comeback to advance in the Winner's bracket. In the NFL,

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Speaker 8: Patriots corner Jack Jones was arrested yesterday after two firearms

561
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 8: were found in his travel luggage at Boston's Logan Airport.

562
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Speaker 8: And in college basketball, Multipot reports this morning saying West

563
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 8: Virginia head coach Bob Huggins was charged with a DUI

564
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 8: last night in Pittsburgh. Huggins was also arrested for a

565
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Speaker 8: dui back in two thousand and four while he was

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Speaker 8: the head coach at Cincinnati.

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Speaker 7: Guys, back to you, thanks, Nick.

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Speaker 3: It's Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna sound like a jerk here, and

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Speaker 3: I don't mean to, But what's up with all these

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Speaker 3: great scores at the US Open? These scores are supposed

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Speaker 3: to stink? Is it supposed to be the one event

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Speaker 3: where they're like us or like you said, Jared, you're

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Speaker 3: wrapping a golf club around a tree or something. All

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Speaker 3: of a sudden, you've got Fowler and Xander Schoffley. They're

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Speaker 3: shooting sixty two on the fold.

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Speaker 1: On the first day.

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Speaker 6: It came down a little bit yesterday, I will say that, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: it was a little tough for yesterday.

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Speaker 2: What's Los Angeles doing over there?

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Speaker 1: Come on, it's like the babe level, right, It's like

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Speaker 1: everything else. Sorry, La, we love you.

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Speaker 3: This is the one exception because I don't actively root

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Speaker 3: for high scores.

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Speaker 2: That's something I want chaos, you do.

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Speaker 4: But this is the one event where if there are

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Speaker 4: extremely low scores, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Like, what's up with that why at the US Open

589
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Speaker 3: it shouldn't be like that.

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Speaker 4: Here's the only thing I'll push back on because I

591
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 4: had this conversation with some friends right after the opening round.

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Speaker 2: They were like, man, man, like, the usg really screwed up.

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Speaker 4: Normally, they they basically pro proof a course. It doesn't

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Speaker 4: matter where they They make it so it's like you're

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Speaker 4: you're putting on a glass coffee table. They make it

596
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Speaker 4: so you know your driver no matter when you take

597
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 4: it out of your bag, you're risking putting it somewhere bad.

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Speaker 4: They make it so that basically, like you said, Brian,

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Speaker 4: and I think it's perfectly put all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: pro golfers look like a bunch of hacks like us.

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Speaker 4: But if you really look at the leaderboard, even in

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Speaker 4: the first round and definitely now the top ten golfers,

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Speaker 4: they're the ones who are really showcasing, like some flashing

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Speaker 4: some unbelievable scores and then pretty much from eleven down

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Speaker 4: you have one.

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Speaker 5: Under par or worse, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Like so like and I'm not even talking about the

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Speaker 4: top ten golfers in terms of the world rankings. I'm

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Speaker 4: just talking about the top ten golfers going into weekend

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Speaker 4: golf here at La Country Club, like the top ten

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Speaker 4: in this field are having their way with this course,

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Speaker 4: which I think overall, in many circumstances, that's what we see.

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Speaker 4: And what's so unique about this.

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Speaker 2: Is typically we see every single.

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Speaker 4: Golfer getting their teeth kicked in out of US Open,

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Speaker 4: and that's what's so rare about it. I gotta be

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Speaker 4: hones with you, though, I kind of like it because

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Speaker 4: if there's one complaint that I have, and I agree

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Speaker 4: with you, I think that there's something special about seeing

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Speaker 4: how challenging US Open golf courses are.

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Speaker 2: I also like low scores.

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Speaker 4: I like when I'm seeing golfers go out there and

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Speaker 4: do things that I absolutely know I cannot do and

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Speaker 4: for whatever reason, even though I know.

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Speaker 5: The course is really difficult, and.

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Speaker 4: Even though I've even though I've played courses, you know,

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Speaker 4: TPC Boston set up for a golf tournament. I played

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Speaker 4: that course, Tory Pine's out in southern California here in

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Speaker 4: San Diego. I played that course ahead of the Farmer's

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Speaker 4: Insurance Open this year, and I know how challenging these

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Speaker 4: courses are, not even for US Open, just for.

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Speaker 2: A normal PGA Tour tournament.

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Speaker 4: I still have a hard time wrapping my head around

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Speaker 4: it when I'm watching at home on television how difficult

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Speaker 4: it actually is.

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Speaker 6: They're unbelievable. I think that's the one thing when I

637
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 6: watch a golf turn. People say golf is boring, and

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Speaker 6: it's I understand that the pace of it is slower

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Speaker 6: than most sports, but if you play it, even if

640
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 6: you just go to the driving range and hit a

641
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 6: few balls on a random Sunday, you have to appreciate

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Speaker 6: how good these guys are. I'm convinced besides hitting a baseball,

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Speaker 6: a round ball with a round bat at not coming

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Speaker 6: at you in ninety five miles an hour, hitting a

645
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 6: golf ball long and straight is the most difficult thing

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Speaker 6: to do in sports, besides hitting a baseball. It's just

647
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 6: it's so hard because your body is like this pendulum,

648
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 6: and most people they're like, you know, little child giraffes.

649
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 6: When they're trying to swing, they just their arms and

650
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 6: limbs start flailing around. These guys do it in perfect harmony,

651
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 6: and they can shape the ball. But also that being said,

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Speaker 6: I do enjoy the one or two events every year.

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Speaker 6: This is one of them where they look like me

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Speaker 6: out there, and yeah, don't look like me this week.

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Speaker 3: I know the guys want it. Last year Matt Fitzpatrick,

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Speaker 3: he was six under. There are seven guys right now

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Speaker 3: who are six under or better.

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Speaker 6: I think it's gonna get tougher this weekend, But I

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Speaker 6: don't think it's gonna get so tough to where we're

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Speaker 6: gonna see a ten under win this thing.

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Speaker 2: Probably, I think I would imagine, yeah, I would think.

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Speaker 5: So.

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Speaker 3: Hey, it is Fox Sports Saturday here. We've got Rich Ornberger,

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Speaker 3: Penn State All American. Jared Smith is with us FSR

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Speaker 3: betting analyst on Brian No coming up next. The Sun responds,

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Speaker 3: we'll have details for you. It is Fox Sports Saturday

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Speaker 3: here on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back in It's Fox

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Speaker 3: Sports Saturday Live from the ti iraq dot Com studios.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, this next story is just a gem. I

670
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Speaker 3: couldn't have crafted it better myself. If they said they

671
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 3: gave me a blank script and said do with it

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Speaker 3: what you will, I couldn't have come up with something

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Speaker 3: half as good as this. So Lebron James has responded

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Speaker 3: to Nuggets head coach Michael Malone. Oh boy, Okay, So

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Speaker 3: here's how It started Lebron after getting swept by the Nuggets.

676
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 3: When Denver beat the Lakers four zip, Lebron shifted the

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Speaker 3: focus to potential retirement.

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Speaker 2: Remember how this sounded.

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Speaker 3: I had a lot to think about, to be honest,

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Speaker 3: I had a lot to think about, to be honest,

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Speaker 3: and just for me personally going going forward with the

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Speaker 3: game of basketball, got a lot to think about, got

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Speaker 3: a lot to think about. And he confirmed that he

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Speaker 3: indeed was thinking about retirement. So of course the conversation

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Speaker 3: became is he going to retire? It wasn't about the sweep.

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Speaker 3: It's a savvy move by Lebron. So what did Michael

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Speaker 3: Malone do? After the Nuggets want a championship? Michael Malone

688
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Speaker 3: was on the Pat McAfee show and trolled Lebron.

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Speaker 2: Speaking the Lakers. I just want you guys to know,

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Speaker 2: this is breaking news. I'm thinking about retiring. Okay.

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00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 3: So Lebron catches word of this and he goes on

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Speaker 3: IG and he puts out a statement that is just

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Speaker 3: oozing with ego, I mean dripping from every office, right.

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Speaker 3: He says in Europe for the past two weeks, minding

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Speaker 3: my business, and I.

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00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 2: Hear I'm on your mind. That much.

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Speaker 1: Huh.

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Speaker 2: I mean I guess I see why.

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Speaker 3: But but wave the flag on these lames. Please make

700
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Speaker 3: being a player cool again, because the lame machine is

701
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 3: at an all time high. Enjoy your light, but just

702
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 3: know I'm the Sun. I stay on forever. Wow, that

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Speaker 3: is top shelf, top shelf.

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Speaker 2: I'm the Sun.

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Speaker 3: Uh okay, Lebron, the sun got swept for nothing against

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Speaker 3: the sun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Sun's lost too.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if you heard that.

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Speaker 4: Wait a second, wait a second, Maybe he's saying he's

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Speaker 4: looking to betrayed.

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Speaker 1: Hardburger breaking the NBA gossip. Yeah, I love it, cracking

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Speaker 1: the code.

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Speaker 4: It's it's so look, I mean, this is in my

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Speaker 4: in my mind, this is exactly what was hoping for.

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Speaker 4: He was like, Oh, thank god, somebody's talking about me,

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Speaker 4: so I don't have to you know, source another story

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Speaker 4: about you know, Kyrie and me meeting up in Dallas.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna be able to own another news cycle and

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00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 4: have Jared and Brian and Rich talk about me on

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Speaker 4: Saturday morning on Fox Sports Radio. And it wasn't generated

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Speaker 4: by me. Michael Malone, you just walked directly into my trap. Look,

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Speaker 4: this is if everybody at home is keeping score exactly

723
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Speaker 4: what Lebron wants. He wants us to be.

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Speaker 2: Talking about Lebron.

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Speaker 5: No, that's the reason.

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Speaker 4: Why he spoke so enigmatically after he got swept in

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Speaker 4: the Western Conference finals.

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Speaker 5: I got a lot to think about.

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Speaker 4: And then everybody was left to speculate before for three

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Speaker 4: days before he clarified.

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Speaker 2: That no, no, no, no, for all of you who

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Speaker 2: who were.

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Speaker 4: Mistaken thinking that what I have to think about is

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Speaker 4: like some of the pieces around me.

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Speaker 2: No, I want to make it very clear.

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Speaker 5: I'm thinking about retiring.

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Speaker 4: So everybody goes, oh my gosh, Lebron is gonna retire.

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Speaker 4: So then instead of concentrating on the Nuggets and what

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00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 4: they had just done to the Lakers and Lebron, we

740
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 4: were talking about Lebron's career in this Lebron era coming

741
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Speaker 4: crashing to a halt and then the final start and

742
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Speaker 4: then all of a sudden, you hear these trade rumors

743
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Speaker 4: and Lebron to Dallas.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, like it is just look certain people, they

746
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 4: are fueled by attention. Look, your car needs unlighted gasoline,

747
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Your dog needs dog food.

748
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Speaker 4: Lebron he thrives off of attention. Yeah, and so if

749
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Speaker 4: he's not getting it, he will generate it. But this

750
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Speaker 4: one came for free because Michael Malone took a shot.

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Speaker 1: And that's the key here.

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Speaker 6: I think if I was Michael Malone who just spent

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Speaker 6: the entire postseason railing about how nobody wanted to talk

754
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Speaker 6: about his team and they just wanted to talk about

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Speaker 6: the other teams, Well, now you have an opportunity, Right, that's.

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Speaker 2: A good point.

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00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: Focus the narrative on what you want to focus on.

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Speaker 6: You have, right, It's it's it's it's like the end

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Speaker 6: of of of around the Horn when you get your

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Speaker 6: face time.

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Speaker 1: He has his face time.

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Speaker 6: He's going around to every network, to every radio station,

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Speaker 6: and he has a chance to focus the narrative on

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Speaker 6: his team, and he chose to take that shot.

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Speaker 2: That's a great point.

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Speaker 3: And it's like Woody Page instead of talking about himself,

767
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Speaker 3: he just used his face time to talk about.

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Speaker 1: So I kind of I'm kind of in Lebron's corner here.

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Speaker 6: If somebody, you know, made a little made a little

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Speaker 6: jab at me, I feel like it's okay for me

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Speaker 6: to come back.

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Speaker 1: But yes, this is exactly what Lebron wants.

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Speaker 3: We're still talking, no doubt, but the way he comes

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Speaker 3: back with the ego ice, I guess, I mean, I

775
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Speaker 3: guess I see why you're talking about me.

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Speaker 2: I am the son after all.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, what Michael Ballone is really saying, what he's

778
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Speaker 3: really saying is, dude, it isn't only about you, That's

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Speaker 3: what he's really saying. Yeah, Ron, And he's right. The Nuggets,

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Speaker 3: this is their moment in the sun. They just swept

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Speaker 3: the Lakers, and all Lebron worried about was controlling the

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Speaker 3: narrative and shifting the focus from him getting swept to

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Speaker 3: is he gonna retire?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And so Malone didn't like that, And I understand why

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Speaker 3: you'd be bent, But that is a good point, Jared.

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Speaker 3: I totally am with you. At the same time, Hey,

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Speaker 3: coming up next, who would be the best quarterback selections and.

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Speaker 2: The worst selections? This year?

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Speaker 3: Oh what's going on, everybody? We're talking quarterbacks over here?

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Speaker 3: Which three would interest you the most? Which three would

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Speaker 3: So there's this story with Netflix doing a series called Quarterback.

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00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's gonna start on July twelfth, and so

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Speaker 3: it chronicles the seasons of three dudes. Last year, it's

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00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes pretty good, won a Super Bowl to ching

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Speaker 3: for Netflix.

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Speaker 2: That works.

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Speaker 3: They also have Kirk Cousins and Marcus Mariota, who was

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Speaker 3: with the Falcons last year, featured on this thing. And

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Speaker 3: I'm starting to squint a little bit, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean, where you're kind of like looking at your computer, like,

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Speaker 3: wait a minute, Kirk and Mario. Okay, but it gets

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Speaker 3: me thinking this, if you look at this year, you

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Speaker 3: spin it forward. If they're gonna continue this series, who

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Speaker 3: would you say are the three most interesting quarterbacks to

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Speaker 3: chronicle in the twenty twenty three season.

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Speaker 2: We'll compare notes over here.

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Speaker 3: I'll give you my list Okay, yeah, I would go

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Speaker 3: with Josh Allen, Bill's quarterback. We're just talking about the drama.

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Speaker 3: What's going on with Diggs? Can they take the next

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Speaker 3: step forward? He's an exciting player on the field to watch.

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Speaker 3: I would certainly include him. Aaron Rodgers obviously playing for

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Speaker 3: a new team, a lot of intrigue there. And I

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Speaker 3: would throw in Russell Wilson new head coaching, Sean Baton.

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Speaker 3: Can he turn things around? Such an awful season last

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Speaker 3: year but a fantastic career aside from twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Can he rebound? Can he right the ship? Those would

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Speaker 2: be my three.

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Speaker 4: I like those three. Here's my only problem with the

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Speaker 4: Russell Wilson pick. In the Aaron Rodgers pick. Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 4: puts all his business on Main Street, so we know

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Speaker 4: everything that Aaron is thinking at all times. He loves

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Speaker 4: to talk, so there's not that reclusivity that like really

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Speaker 4: compels me. And then also Russell Wilson, I feel like,

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Speaker 4: regardless of whether there's cameras or not, he's so curated

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Speaker 4: that I'm not sure we would learn anything new about him.

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Speaker 1: It's fair.

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Speaker 4: I do like the idea, though. With Josh Allen, I

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Speaker 4: really like the idea because there's something going on there.

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Speaker 4: You know, Josh Allen got the big contract, got the

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Speaker 4: new girlfriend, got this issue with Stefan Diggs, He's no

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Speaker 4: longer with Brian Dabole, He's got Ken Dorsey as offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 2: What's really going on in Buffalo?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 2: So there's that.

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Speaker 4: And then probably the most reclusive quarterback starting quarterback in

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Speaker 4: the NFL is somebody who we have so little knowledge

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Speaker 4: of since he's left college, is Mac Jones.

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Speaker 2: Like, do we really know what's going on in New England?

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Speaker 5: Ever?

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Speaker 4: Do we really know what last year was like working

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Speaker 4: with the defensive coordinator turned offensive coordinator having two voices

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Speaker 4: in his ear? You know, this offseason's like such an

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Speaker 4: important offseason for Mac Jones. If he doesn't have a

855
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Speaker 4: good season, they're moving off.

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Speaker 5: Of Mac Jones.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we can you know, because you know, all

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Speaker 4: of a sudden common denominator conversation starts coming into the equation.

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Speaker 4: You know, they've had success with Billy O'Brien as offensive

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Speaker 4: coordinator in the past, and we'll see what happens this

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Speaker 4: year with Mac Jones. Then the third actually, oddly for me,

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Speaker 4: it would be Alan Jones I'm gonna stay in the

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Speaker 4: same division to a tongue of I looa.

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Speaker 2: You're just gonna stay in the AFC East. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: because you know what Tua.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's a guy who legitimately faced face the

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Speaker 4: hardest question that every football player has to face eventually,

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Speaker 4: so early in his career.

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Speaker 2: Should I keep doing this?

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Speaker 5: Is this safe for me?

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Speaker 4: You know, the whole idea around the multiple concussions over

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Speaker 4: the short period of time. I'm fascinated by Tua and

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Speaker 4: is a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of fun, right the head coach one hundred Well, well,

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Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel is a walking I mean, if I watch

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Speaker 3: a lot of videos on I'm like big TikTok guy.

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Speaker 2: Now, I really love love TikTok.

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Speaker 1: Love TikTok.

879
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 6: My dog, by the way, you can follow him at

880
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 6: pit Picks if you want.

881
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: Jackpops wagers on TikTok.

882
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 6: But most of the time when I'm on TikTok, I'm

883
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 6: scrolling through other videos.

884
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,280
Speaker 1: And one of the better videos I've come across lately.

885
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 6: You know, it's a lot of it's your algorithm, so

886
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 6: it just it knows you, and it just throws whatever

887
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,479
Speaker 6: you think they think you'll like and they're very good.

888
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 6: My algorithm is on point right now. A lot of

889
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 6: NFL behind the scenes videos, a lot of sports stuff.

890
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 6: Mike McDaniel reel of all of the best things he

891
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 6: said in press conferences. If you want to laugh and

892
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,439
Speaker 6: you want to see someone who's just like super uber

893
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 6: nerd Absolutely Mike McDaniel. So, I again, I agree with

894
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 6: all of your all of your quarterbacks.

895
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: I think they all would make interesting stories.

896
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 6: I will give you some options, some other options that

897
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 6: I think. We're not talking about these guys a lot,

898
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 6: but I think we might come January February.

899
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: I'll start in the ac North. How about Deshaun Watson.

900
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: I mean, this is.

901
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 6: A very interesting Cleveland team. You have Baltimore very much.

902
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 6: I think the AFC North might be the best division

903
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,359
Speaker 6: of football this year after it's all said and done.

904
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 6: I honestly do believe that. I think the NFC East

905
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 6: is up there. Obviously, the AFC West, I'll get to

906
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 6: them in a minute. But to me, Deshaun Watson, now

907
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 6: he gets the full offseason, the full year after seeing

908
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 6: glimpses of him last year, and let's be honest, this

909
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 6: offense with Cooper and Moore and people's jones and then

910
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 6: you got in joke. I mean they are loaded. They've

911
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 6: got a great offensive line. We know how great they

912
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 6: can run the ball. This could be a very good

913
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 6: Cleveland Browns team. I'm very interested to see what's going

914
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 6: on behind the scenes there because we didn't see a

915
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 6: lot of Deshaun Watson last year. The other one is

916
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 6: a guy that I think came onto the scenes last year.

917
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 6: And I think the coach quarterback dynamic in Jacksonville is

918
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 6: very interesting, and I'll throw Trevor Lawrence into the mix.

919
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 6: I am close to putting Trevor Lawrence in that top tier.

920
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 6: This is the year I think that will separate him

921
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 6: because we saw the breakout right year one was a

922
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 6: disascher with Evermyer. You know, then we saw a little

923
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 6: bit of the development and growth, and then we saw

924
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 6: the breakout last year. They won the division, made the

925
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 6: playoffs look fantastic. I'm curious to see if they could

926
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 6: build on that in this offseason. And again you want

927
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 6: to talk about loaded, absolutely loaded receiving groups. Christian Kirk,

928
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 6: Calvin Ridley's a Jones, Evan Ingram, Travis etn. They have

929
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 6: an offense in Jacksonville I'm very fascinated to see how

930
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 6: it all fits together. And how about the quarterback in

931
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 6: the AFC West that nobody really wants to talk about

932
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 6: because he's not Patrick Mahomes or Russell Wilson. How about

933
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 6: Justin Herbert with a new offensive coordinator, Kellen Moore, who

934
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 6: by all accounts, is going to make that offense go

935
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 6: from a Honda Civic to like a Maserati because you

936
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 6: go from Lombardi to now Kellen Moore, who wants to

937
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 6: push the ball down the field. And you've got Justin Herbert,

938
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 6: who I don't think is a very interesting personality, but

939
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 6: I'm fascinated to see what the dynamic is looking like

940
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 6: with him and Kellen Moore. Can we just get like

941
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 6: a buddy cop show with Herbert and Kellen Moore, because

942
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 6: if those two click, the Chargers might be ready to roll.

943
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 3: I like that list, And now we got to get

944
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 3: to the least interesting.

945
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 2: This is where we take the left turn.

946
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 3: Okay, now, now think of this the actual Netflix series

947
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 3: called Quarterback. It features Mahomes most prominently from last season.

948
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 3: And here's some of the micd up footage. I want

949
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 3: to play this for you so we can spin it

950
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 3: forward with that's cool, but I would not want to

951
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 3: hear from these other dudes, you know what I mean?

952
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 3: Like this, So remember when Mahomes it was against Tampa

953
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 3: Bay last year. He ran toward the goal line, he

954
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 3: was rolling out right and he was just buying time,

955
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 3: buying time. Then it flipped it into the end zone.

956
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 3: It was a touchdown. It's a beautiful play. And he

957
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 3: just said this that he's looking at it tam like,

958
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's what I do know. And then when

959
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 3: he was talking trash to Max Crosby the next week

960
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 3: and a game against the Raiders, he threw a touchdown

961
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 3: pass got into Max Crosby's face, and this is how

962
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 3: that sounded.

963
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 2: I'm here, I'm here, all right. I love stuff like that.

964
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 3: And now this, this is when Mahomes got hurt in

965
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:07,120
Speaker 3: the playoffs against Jacksonville and Andy Reid is talking about

966
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 3: taking him out of the game.

967
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take you out here.

968
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 7: No, hell no, I'm good.

969
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 2: Just stuff like that is fascinating to me.

970
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 3: So ask yourself this, which quarterbacks would cause you to

971
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 3: react the opposite with where You're like, this is just

972
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 3: not that interesting.

973
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: Here's my list.

974
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 3: I would go to bottom three if you're featuring them

975
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 3: in a docu series, if you will on Netflix or

976
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 3: wherever else. Sam Howell, He's gonna be the new Washington

977
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 3: Commander's quarterback. That franchise has zero choice right now. Not

978
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 3: interested Colt McCoy, who's basically a backup quarterback. He'll be

979
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 3: starting in place of the recovering from an acl Kyler Murray.

980
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 3: I'm not interested in hearing or watching Colt. And I

981
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 3: would take one of the guys on your top three list.

982
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:56,479
Speaker 1: Rich.

983
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 3: I'd go with Mac Jones because it's the Patriots. We

984
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 3: never hear anything from them.

985
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,319
Speaker 1: What do they get buttoned up?

986
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's military like.

987
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 3: It's not like Mac Jones is oozing with personality either.

988
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 3: So although it's a compelling storyline that would be in

989
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 3: my bottom three, I'm just I'm not captivated by that

990
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 3: storyline myself.

991
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean similar, we're barring one from each

992
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 4: of our lists, like Russell Wilson.

993
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 2: Has on your bottom I like it, Yeah, yeah.

994
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 4: It's just you know, and I understand the intrigue with

995
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 4: Sean Payton and the Broncos, and it's kind of again

996
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 4: the same way I was talking about Mac Jones and

997
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 4: you put him him on your bottom three. It's it's

998
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 4: very similar for very similar reasons, Like what are we

999
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 4: gonna learn new about Russell Wilson? You know what I mean,

1000
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 4: Like he's been around for decade, and it sort of

1001
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 4: feels like every time the camera's in front of him,

1002
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 4: you're getting what Russell wants you to.

1003
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 2: See, sure and and not and not.

1004
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 5: What's actually there.

1005
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 4: In fact, I'm not even a thousand percent sure he

1006
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 4: even remembers exactly who he was when he started all this,

1007
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 4: because I'm not buying the packaged product that we get

1008
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 4: to see. You know, when he signs the extension with

1009
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 4: the Seahawks and it's Tim and Sierra.

1010
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 2: Sleepy eye going go Hawks like that.

1011
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 5: No it's not.

1012
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just not. It's not working for me. So

1013
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:21,479
Speaker 2: Russ is in there.

1014
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 4: And then two of the most boring quarterbacks when you

1015
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 4: hear them speak, are Trevor Lawrence and Jared Goff. I'm

1016
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 4: sorry when when Jared Goff was on Hard Knocks and

1017
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 4: he seems like a great guy, and so does Trevor Lawrence.

1018
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 4: But both of those two, I mean, as they're speaking,

1019
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 4: I'm losing consciousness, just like I mean, I remember one time,

1020
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence. There was a clip that Jacksonville put out,

1021
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 4: and they put it out as a like as like

1022
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,479
Speaker 4: almost like one of those pregame motivational things where Trevor

1023
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 4: Lawrence has the receivers and the and the backup quarterbacks

1024
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 4: in the tunnel before they're about to take the field

1025
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 4: pregame and instead of giving some impassioned, raw raw speech

1026
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 4: where he's like, we're gonna go out there, we're gonna execute,

1027
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 4: We're gonna find everybody, we're gonna find each other, We're

1028
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 4: gonna sugglete. You know, it wasn't the Drew breesting. It

1029
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 4: was all right, guys, we're friends, and uh I like

1030
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 4: you a lot, and.

1031
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 5: Let's go play football.

1032
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 4: And halfway through the clip, I mean I was like,

1033
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 4: oh no, I feel like I've taken Nike well mid day,

1034
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,959
Speaker 4: like I need an espresso, like this is this is tough.

1035
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 4: So yeah, Lawrence and golf would make it would round

1036
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 4: out my bottom three.

1037
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 6: I guess I should reconsider my I guess I chose

1038
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 6: this based off of football only and not personality. I

1039
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 6: agree though personality should maybe be a factor here. I

1040
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 6: think based off of that, I think I'm still gonna

1041
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 6: go with football as least in inspiring storylines here, and

1042
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 6: I throw I don't know what Netflix was thinking. I

1043
00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 6: put Kirk Cousins on that list, really okay, I don't

1044
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 6: see a lot of interesting things about his life and

1045
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 6: career besides the you like that.

1046
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I maybe this.

1047
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 6: Year will I will be proven wrong and he will

1048
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 6: fuck because every right, everyone is expecting the Vikings to

1049
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 6: take a giant step back this year. I think that's

1050
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 6: one of the biggest public opinions on Minnesota is that

1051
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 6: they won so many games last year by one score,

1052
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 6: They got beat in the playoffs, they didn't look great

1053
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 6: against the New York Giants, and everyone realized that the

1054
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 6: Vikings are a fraud, and we expect them to come

1055
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 6: crashing down to earth back this year after winning thirteen games.

1056
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: Like, I think that's a fair take, but I don't know.

1057
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 6: I'm curious if that actually plays out the way that

1058
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 6: it does. I think, if you again, you want to

1059
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 6: go with personality, and you want to go with maybe

1060
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 6: boring personality but also relatively boring football, maybe Derek Carr

1061
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 6: and it's almost like he's too nice of a guy

1062
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 6: to have a Netflix documentary, like he's so nice and

1063
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 6: welcome in warm and just you know, wants everyone around

1064
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 6: him to win, like his his goodbye speech and his

1065
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 6: last year in Vegas was very emotional, like he you know,

1066
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 6: and and the stuff with Henry Ruggs, like when he

1067
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 6: kind of you know, defended him almost in a sense

1068
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 6: like hey, I'm here for you. BUTRO like, he's such

1069
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 6: a nice guy. And I can speak to this because

1070
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 6: I like to consider myself a nice guy. Sometimes people

1071
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 6: don't want to see you do well. Sometimes they like

1072
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,959
Speaker 6: nice guys to finish last. Right, That's how the saying goes.

1073
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: Let's think of another one.

1074
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 6: I'm trying to think of another one that would be

1075
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 6: super I'm not gonna say two.

1076
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: It no, no. Two is very very interesting. I think.

1077
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: I think the situation in Tampa and Tennessee.

1078
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 6: I think those are the two other situations that I'm

1079
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,479
Speaker 6: like not into Tennessee is at at all? Right, Like, yeah,

1080
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 6: Tannehill and Baker like those guys, and again, their quarterback

1081
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 6: prowess might be a little bit different, but I don't

1082
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 6: really I'm not interested in the Baker storylines really anymore.

1083
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 6: He's bounced around. This is what his fourth team in

1084
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 6: the last five years. And and Tannehill. It's it kind

1085
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 6: of feels like the biggest lame duck situation in all

1086
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 6: of sports right now. You just know he's not the

1087
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,720
Speaker 6: future quarterback. And they drafted Levis, They've got Malik Willis

1088
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 6: back there too, Like they're just there's literally two guys

1089
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 6: that they've drafted in the last two years that are

1090
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 6: just waiting to take his job. So I think those

1091
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 6: are two of the more depressing situations.

1092
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: Is Tampa Bay, Yeah, and Tennessee.

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00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 3: Tennessee is a good one because really would be compelling

1094
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 3: about featuring Ryan Tannehill is when does he get replaced?

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00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 2: That's sad, it's that great for.

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00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 3: A Netflix docuseries right there. Uh maybe I might shock

1097
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 3: you a little bit here.

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00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.

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00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 3: But on the the interesting side, not as much as

1100
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 3: a personality, but the storyline, it could be interesting what

1101
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:51,240
Speaker 3: happens with brock Party this year? Oh yeah, a package deal,

1102
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 3: that's right real, just the Niners quarterback sitution. That would

1103
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 3: absolutely be compelling because there were so many props headed

1104
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 3: brock Parties last season and we got to see what

1105
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 3: he does in year two. Does he take a step forward?

1106
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 3: Does he regress. What's the fallout?

1107
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: It's Sam Donald.

1108
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, as the.

1109
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: Third stringer on the depth.

1110
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 4: Telt Well, and let's face it, I mean right now,

1111
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,240
Speaker 4: the healthiest quarterback in San Francisco based off last season

1112
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 4: coming into this season is Sam Donald. Yeah, you know

1113
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 4: what I mean. Like, if we're just talking about like

1114
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 4: legitimately physical ability to play the position, if they had

1115
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 4: to gear up and go out there, now, are you

1116
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 4: trusting Trey Lance's ankle?

1117
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 5: Yet?

1118
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,920
Speaker 4: Are you trusting Brock Perdy's elbow? And the answer is

1119
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 4: probably not so, Sam Donald, today might be your starting

1120
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 4: quarterback good which is.

1121
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 6: Called by Sam here too, Desmond Rader, I agree with you, Sam,

1122
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 6: he has zero intrigued.

1123
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 4: Well, yes, I will say this though, if if we

1124
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 4: were going to go back to the top and talk

1125
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 4: about our three favorite picks to hear from, if we

1126
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 4: could do almost like a real world where it's a

1127
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 4: camera all the time to get him a camera all

1128
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 4: the time on Trey and a camera all the time

1129
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 4: on Brock, and then they have to do their confessionals, you.

1130
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 2: Know where they're like, fa, you gotta be honest with you,

1131
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 2: bro brother.

1132
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, big sock. Brock is really starting to piss me up,

1133
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 4: and the.

1134
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 6: Niners are a very Listen, they are a very interesting

1135
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 6: team because the odds makers believe that they are legit.

1136
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean, what do you say when you

1137
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 6: have two quarterbacks you have none? What was that Spurrier's comment?

1138
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, what if you have three that you got

1139
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 2: a negative?

1140
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: Right?

1141
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: All right?

1142
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 3: We've got Rich Hornberger, Penn State All American, Chared Smith

1143
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 3: FSR betting analyst.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian No coming up next.

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Speaker 3: This might be the worst argument I've ever heard in

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00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,960
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00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,920
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00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,600
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Speaker 3: Oh this story, Oh my gosh, it is the gift

1155
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:11,720
Speaker 3: that keeps on giving. The Oakland A's and their fan base,

1156
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's right. Soon to be the Vegas

1157
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 3: MLB team might be re.

1158
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: Celebrating a Stanley Cup this week. Here in town.

1159
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 3: That's right, you were there for game fight. We'll get

1160
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:28,919
Speaker 3: into that in a little bit here. Hopefully you sat

1161
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 3: in the cup like the baby did.

1162
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: I would break that. Imagine my big old booty in

1163
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: that cup. I don't know who's.

1164
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 2: Okay.

1165
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 3: So the A's what happened this week. On Tuesday, there

1166
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:51,919
Speaker 3: was a reverse boycott pulled off by the A's fan base,

1167
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 3: and you're like, wait, what is that? So they were

1168
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 3: boycotting the team. The thought is the team owner, John Fisher,

1169
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 3: he's traded all the good players, he's slashed payroll, he's

1170
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 3: raised ticket prices. So we're boycotting. We're staying away from

1171
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 3: the team. And then for one night only they reversed

1172
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 3: it and they showed up almost twenty eight thousand people.

1173
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 3: They were loud, they had a great old time. It

1174
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 3: was partially this is what you're walking away from, or

1175
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 3: we want John Fisher to sell the team so the

1176
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 3: new ownership remains here.

1177
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 2: It was just.

1178
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 3: Twisted dorky fan thinking it was ridiculous. But Rob Manfred,

1179
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 3: the MLB commissioner, he chimed in and this is just

1180
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 3: top shelf. He goes, it's great to see what is

1181
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 3: this year almost an average Major League Baseball crowd in

1182
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 3: the facility for one night. What his thoughts were for

1183
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 3: the reverse boycott? And this here's the other little nugget here.

1184
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:56,919
Speaker 3: Marcus Thompson is a lead columnist at The Athletic. He

1185
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 3: does a sensational job. He really, He's covered the Warriors

1186
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,080
Speaker 3: for a long time, covers Bay area sports.

1187
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,479
Speaker 2: He's a smart, smart dude.

1188
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 3: But even smart people will say or write some really

1189
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 3: stupid things, and this is one of the things. So

1190
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 3: he went to the game on Tuesday, the reverse boycott

1191
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,480
Speaker 3: and all of that, and one of the lines in

1192
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 3: a piece he wrote just stood out to me and

1193
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 3: I had to share it with you guys. He wrote,

1194
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 3: what A's fans can bring what was on display at

1195
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 3: the reverse boycott simply cannot be duplicated in this nation.

1196
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 3: What really, really, we can't find any fan base that

1197
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 3: will show up around twenty eight thousand fans, be loud,

1198
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 3: be engaged, to be into it.

1199
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Speaker 2: We can't find that anywhere in the nation.

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01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 3: Really, There's been so many stupid things being said and

1201
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 3: written about these A's fans and their reverse boycott, and

1202
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 3: they're twisted logic about oh ownership isn't supporting the team,

1203
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 3: so we aren't either.

1204
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 2: Neither is supporting the team.

1205
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 3: So why is it only about ownership and not about

1206
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 3: the fan base at all?

1207
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 2: It makes no sense to me.

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01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 4: Well, I get your point, and I kind of get

1209
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 4: you know, and I apologize. I don't know his name, uh,

1210
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 4: and I don't recognize his work as as you have it.

1211
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 4: But the writer, he's right too, you know, Like, here's

1212
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 4: the deal, Like, there's two sides to every story. And

1213
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 4: it's like if you have a divorced friend and they're

1214
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 4: always telling you about how bad their ex spouse was,

1215
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 4: and you know, how right they were in every fight,

1216
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 4: and how wrong their ex spouse was in every fight,

1217
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 4: and you side with them because you're hearing that side

1218
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 4: of the story. But then all of a sudden you realize,

1219
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 4: oh wait, yeah. But but then again, on the other

1220
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 4: side of this fence, there's somebody who's telling their friends

1221
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 4: the exact same thing about my buddy, you know, like,

1222
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 4: you know, telling all of them all the things he

1223
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 4: did wrong and painting him as the villain in this picture.

1224
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 4: And so in reality, both sides are right. Here's my problem,

1225
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 4: my problem with this, And you know, I moved to

1226
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 4: San Diego in twenty thirteen to play for the Chargers,

1227
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 4: and this is where I call home now. And the

1228
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 4: Chargers left San Diego to go to La recently, and

1229
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 4: it was two years after my retirement from the NFL

1230
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 4: where this happened. And I was on sports talk radio,

1231
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 4: and so I was in this really unique spot where

1232
01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:36,439
Speaker 4: my former employer, someone you know, the Spanos family, Dean

1233
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 4: Spanos and his sons who you know own and operate

1234
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 4: the team, were moving the team to Los Angeles. And

1235
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 4: now I'm on sports talk radio the voice of the fan,

1236
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 4: reacting to all of this in real time. So I

1237
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 4: had some insight from inside the building, but still listening

1238
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 4: to the fan base complain about what was happening to

1239
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 4: the city, and really at first because I was like geez,

1240
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 4: you know, you know, coming from the business side of this,

1241
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 4: like I almost understand the compulsion to want to make

1242
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 4: more money because as a player, I didn't have an

1243
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 4: allegiance to a team. I had an allegiance to myself,

1244
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 4: Like I was looking for the best opportunity for me

1245
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 4: and my family. You know, I needed to move on

1246
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 4: with my career. If if a team didn't want me,

1247
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 4: or if I had a better opportunity elsewhere and free

1248
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 4: agency or other side like or otherwise, like I had

1249
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 4: to go, I had to move, so like there was

1250
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 4: a part of me that like, okay, yeah, yeah, okay,

1251
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 4: I can I can sort of see it from the

1252
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 4: ownership standpoint. But then you know what won the day

1253
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 4: for me is speaking and meeting with fans who really

1254
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 4: paid my salary during the course of my career. If

1255
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 4: you think about it, I mean, distill this to the

1256
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 4: root who were like, I bought it. I bought it,

1257
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 4: hook line and sinker. Everything they told this team on

1258
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 4: their way out the door was talking about how they

1259
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 4: were making every single possible inroad to make this work,

1260
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 4: and meanwhile, behind the scenes, they weren't. They were trying

1261
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 4: to leave town. They're trying to jump ship on the

1262
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 4: city of San Diego and go to Los Angeles. And

1263
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 4: these people were heartbroken because you know what you're selling

1264
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 4: a fan base when you're a team owner, hope. You

1265
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 4: are selling hope. It's the same thing that religions do.

1266
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 4: They tell you that there's a future. They tell you

1267
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 4: that there is a destination that's better than the life

1268
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 4: you're living right now.

1269
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 5: Just take the ride with us. We'll show you the light.

1270
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 2: It's the same thing. It's a religious experience for a

1271
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 2: lot of.

1272
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 5: People going to football games on Sundays.

1273
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 4: So what you did when you took the community and

1274
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 4: the faith and the hope that was built around this

1275
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 4: team and moved it away and realize and these fans

1276
01:04:55,880 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 4: realized that it was all lies, it broke heart It

1277
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 4: shattered relationships. I mean, it broke up families for a

1278
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 4: little bit. I'm not kidding, Like this was as serious

1279
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 4: as it got, you know. And people will be like, well,

1280
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 4: those are fanatics. It's like, yeah, but who's paying the

1281
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 4: bills at these stadiums in these ballparks.

1282
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,480
Speaker 5: So my opinion on this.

1283
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 2: Is pro fan, like these poor people in Oakland who

1284
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 2: have who.

1285
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 3: Have no tears for you, show up and support the team. Yeah,

1286
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 3: I mean there's a better option in Vegas.

1287
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 2: Sorry.

1288
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not that ruthless with my take here. I

1289
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 4: think I think that it's pitiful what these greedy owners

1290
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 4: are willing to do to fan bases for better prospects elsewhere.

1291
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 5: They should be ashamed of themselves.

1292
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 6: I guess I'll be sort of the middle ground here.

1293
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 6: By the way, have I told you about my divorce

1294
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 6: and how brutal my ex wife was, and all of

1295
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 6: the arguments.

1296
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 1: That I had.

1297
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 2: I mean, we could do a full segment on me.

1298
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 1: I could probably do.

1299
01:05:55,000 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 6: I'm sure all the bosses would love to hear three

1300
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 6: hours about my divorce.

1301
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 3: I can get on the couch also, and Rich can

1302
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 3: be the psychologist.

1303
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 5: You know.

1304
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 6: I honestly I paid money to a lot of you know,

1305
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 6: shrinks in my day. I think Rich would probably give

1306
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 6: just as well.

1307
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 2: You might say you straight even more.

1308
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:14,919
Speaker 1: Should have given all that money to Rich.

1309
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 6: So the the A's are an original charter member of

1310
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 6: the American League that dates all the way back to

1311
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 6: the early nineteen hundreds. Right Philadelphia, Kansas City, now Oakland,

1312
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 6: and now we get Vegas, the four stop on their trail.

1313
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:37,680
Speaker 6: I think I'm a little biased here. And that's the

1314
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 6: one thing about betting is you always have to admit

1315
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 6: when you have biased because sometimes you don't make the

1316
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 6: best wager. I'm a little biased here, right, I'm a Vegas,

1317
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 6: New Vegas resident. I'm embracing the city, the culture of

1318
01:06:47,880 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 6: the sports culture I think is become. This is a

1319
01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 6: sports town now. I mean I was walking around the

1320
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 6: other night after that Stanley Cup win. This is a

1321
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 6: sports town. The super Bowl will be here in seven months.

1322
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 6: It is going to be an absolute blast with baseball.

1323
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 6: There is a little bit of we don't know what

1324
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 6: it's going to look like here. They're gonna build the

1325
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 6: coliseum or they're gonna build the new stadium on the strip.

1326
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 6: I think they're going to draw a lot of foot traffic.

1327
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 6: I think it's going to do better than it did

1328
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 6: in Oakland. But I understand where Rich is coming from here.

1329
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 6: There definitely needed to be more of these reverse boycotts.

1330
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 6: If this is what they can do on a nightly

1331
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,479
Speaker 6: basis when they're calling for it, we should have seen

1332
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 6: more of this throughout the course of the last few years.

1333
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 6: When they were winning games, people were showing up. Now

1334
01:07:37,240 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 6: they're losing games and people haven't shown up, and you

1335
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 6: need people to show up. And I think that's where

1336
01:07:44,840 --> 01:07:47,800
Speaker 6: I go off of the train of yeah.

1337
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 1: Let's you know.

1338
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 6: I'm a little more ruthless about it, because I do think.

1339
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 6: I do think if you don't show up, maybe it's

1340
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 6: more of a minor league city where a major league

1341
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 6: town maybe isn't the right ballpark for it venue situation.

1342
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 6: But I also feel for these fans because they just

1343
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,439
Speaker 6: lost the Raiders to Vegas.

1344
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, they're about to.

1345
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,480
Speaker 6: Lose the Eighth to Vegas. If I'm an Oakland resident,

1346
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 6: I'm never going to last Vegas.

1347
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 3: Like ever, Well, I feel bad for them if they're

1348
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 3: showing up by the droves and they still lose their franchise.

1349
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 2: I have no sympathy for them.

1350
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 3: When you're getting like seven thousand people in attendance, you know,

1351
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 3: like if you're in a relationship and things aren't going

1352
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:32,000
Speaker 3: the way you want them, if your play is I'm

1353
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 3: just gonna ignore my girl for years and then I'll

1354
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 3: get what I want. Yes, Like when she leaves you

1355
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 3: for a better option, you shouldn't be just dumbfounded, like.

1356
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 2: What what You're gonna leave me?

1357
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:42,799
Speaker 5: Really?

1358
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,880
Speaker 3: After I just ignored you for years, even though you

1359
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 3: were doing some things wrong, Like yeah, two plus two

1360
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 3: equals four here and these Oakland A fans are acting

1361
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 3: like we're dumbfounded. We're showing up, We've got seven thousand

1362
01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 3: fans on average.

1363
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 2: And you're leaving. It's like, yeah, dude, that's how it

1364
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 2: freaking goes.

1365
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 4: Put that door swings both ways, and you know it

1366
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 4: because if you look at the payroll in Oakland. If

1367
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 4: you look at the facility in Oakland and you start

1368
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 4: looking at the profits. And by the way that we

1369
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 4: know that these Major League Baseball teams are making because

1370
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 4: we've had litigation in the past that's given us a

1371
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:23,400
Speaker 4: little bit of a vista into how profitable it is

1372
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 4: to be a Major League Baseball owner.

1373
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 5: Right.

1374
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:29,959
Speaker 4: I mean this, This team has not committed to spending.

1375
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 4: This owner has committed to the city, like.

1376
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 2: You know, it's not only him though, they haven't committed either.

1377
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 2: That's the thing.

1378
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 3: Over the last ten years, John Fisher, NDA's right, they've

1379
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:46,799
Speaker 3: averaged the twenty sixth highest payroll. Okay, is that thirtieth

1380
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 3: it's low, it's close to thirty. But the thirtieth place

1381
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 3: team isn't moving, The twenty ninth place team isn't losing,

1382
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 3: isn't moving, the twenty eighth to twenty seventh. You know why,

1383
01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 3: cause their fans show up more than Oakland does.

1384
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:00,960
Speaker 1: What is it The Royals, Marlins? What are those teams

1385
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 1: on that list?

1386
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, look at the Royals. The Royals have stunk.

1387
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 1: The Royals are I think the Royals are the worst

1388
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,559
Speaker 1: team in baseball and they draw.

1389
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, they draw, and the Orioles draw, the Pirates draw.

1390
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 6: The Rays are the other one that I think that's

1391
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 6: the weird one. That's the one that I think we

1392
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 6: can have a debate about.

1393
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 2: Right, they're good because they let's be honest.

1394
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,439
Speaker 6: They are the best team in baseball, and nobody goes

1395
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 6: to the games.

1396
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: It's really weird.

1397
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 2: Hang on a second, though, Hold on, Rich, hold that thought.

1398
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, because let's get our guy, Nick Cope in here

1399
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 3: and we'll throw it right back to you. But mister

1400
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 3: Nick Cope, if you would take the baton so kindly,

1401
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 3: it's spin us around the sports world, sir.

1402
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 8: Well, I don't want to steer you off course here,

1403
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 8: but I am a Northern California guy. Now, I grew

1404
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:45,639
Speaker 8: up a Giants fan. However, I know plenty of A's fans.

1405
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 8: I'm right here with Rich.

1406
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 2: I mean, so let's get the violins. We're victims. They're

1407
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 2: stealing our friend.

1408
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:57,000
Speaker 8: Hell, I don't understand how you can expect A's fans

1409
01:10:57,120 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 8: to continue to support this franchise when John Fisher has

1410
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 8: done nothing. John Fish here is guy was born with

1411
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 8: the silver spoon in his mouth, and he's done nothing

1412
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 8: to make the Oakland A's better during his tenure.

1413
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,480
Speaker 2: Free fan boy pts.

1414
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:18,160
Speaker 3: Fan boycotts are a recipe for you to lose your team, That's.

1415
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 2: What it is.

1416
01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:22,719
Speaker 8: They've been gone for years. Okay, this was just A's

1417
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:25,800
Speaker 8: fans a chance to make some noise on the way out,

1418
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 8: not that they didn't have any notions that that was

1419
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:31,800
Speaker 8: going to change anything. It's not just the payroll, which

1420
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:33,880
Speaker 8: I was going to bring up with you guys at Fridgedon.

1421
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 8: It's also every good player they've had over the last

1422
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 8: from fifteen to eighteen years. Anytime they get good and

1423
01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 8: they're due to get a big contract, they're gone. How

1424
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 8: do you root for a team that won't even keep

1425
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 8: its homegrown guys.

1426
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:50,240
Speaker 6: It feels like this reset needs to happen, though, because

1427
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 6: I think when you're having problems in relationships, the best

1428
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 6: thing to do is to hit that reset button. And unfortunately,

1429
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 6: in this situation, it's moving city.

1430
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 7: I just think that's say go ahead, Ry, Yeah.

1431
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 4: What The crazy part about this is we're acting like

1432
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 4: if the A's didn't all of a sudden, like I'm

1433
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 4: talking about John Fisher didn't all of a sudden invests

1434
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 4: one hundred million dollars into the current ballpark or a

1435
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 4: new ballpark or whatever, whatever amount of money it took,

1436
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 4: you know, two hundred and eighty million dollars in Oakland,

1437
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:20,840
Speaker 4: I don't know, to build a new stadium. And if

1438
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 4: he didn't start spending more in payroll, and if you

1439
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 4: didn't start winning games and keeping homegrown talent like the A's,

1440
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 4: fans would still be staying away.

1441
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:29,719
Speaker 2: No, they'd be showing up in droves.

1442
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 6: There's little species coming up from the stadium bowls, you know,

1443
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 6: into the Dugouts coup.

1444
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 3: You'll find out when you when you have a real

1445
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 3: friend through the tough times. If you need a ride

1446
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 3: to the airport at four am and they're there for you,

1447
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 3: you've got a friend. If they're only there for the

1448
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 3: good times, you don't have a real friend or a

1449
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:50,840
Speaker 3: real fan. This is and that's what you got with

1450
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 3: a file in music in the back. Woe is me,

1451
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,559
Speaker 3: with these poor unfortunate days. Bands, Spare me, is what

1452
01:12:58,600 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 3: I say.

1453
01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,360
Speaker 8: All right, let me run through these headlines. I'll let

1454
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:04,679
Speaker 8: you guys get back to it. College basketball news this morning.

1455
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 8: West Virginia head coach Bob Huggins was arrested on adi

1456
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 8: charge last night in Pittsburgh this after Huggins received a

1457
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:14,439
Speaker 8: three game suspension and a million dollar pay cut last

1458
01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:17,919
Speaker 8: month for using an anti gay slur during a radio interview.

1459
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 7: In golf, it's moving day at the US Open.

1460
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 8: Ricky Fowler leads through thirty six holes at ten under par.

1461
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,719
Speaker 8: Wyndham Clark one shot back in second place, Rory McRoy

1462
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,679
Speaker 8: x Anderschaffley both two shots off the pace of minus eight.

1463
01:13:29,960 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 8: Third round will get underway about twelve thirty Eastern. The

1464
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 8: leaders will tee off in the three pm Eastern hour.

1465
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 8: Some of the late scores. In baseball, Dodgers were no

1466
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,759
Speaker 8: hitting the Giants through six innings, but San Francisco rallied

1467
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 8: for a seven to five win in eleven innings. Giants

1468
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 8: have one to five straight, Mariners edge the White Sox

1469
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,519
Speaker 8: three to two, raised top the Padres six to two,

1470
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 8: and the Dback snapped to three game skid with a

1471
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 8: five to one win against the Guardians. Finally, in the NFL,

1472
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:57,440
Speaker 8: Patriots Corner Jack Jones was arrested yesterday after two firearms

1473
01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:00,759
Speaker 8: were found in his travel luggage at Boston's Logan Airport.

1474
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 3: Back to you, guys, hey, good stuff, Nick really appreciated

1475
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 3: it is Fox Sports Saturday here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay,

1476
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 3: real fast, twenty four second shot clock. Maybe it resets

1477
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:12,439
Speaker 3: at fourteen. There was a kicked ball. You know what

1478
01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Richie, Yeah, what do you have on this

1479
01:14:16,439 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 3: to put a bow on it?

1480
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 1: Listen?

1481
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 4: I mean this is a business transaction, except what teams

1482
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:25,400
Speaker 4: are selling fan bases is hope, And like, you know,

1483
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 4: compare it to I don't know, a milkshake company. If

1484
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 4: you have a milkshake company and they're selling milkshakes, and

1485
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 4: your customers show up and you're giving them a cup

1486
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 4: half full for years and they're sticking around, they're sticking around.

1487
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 4: Eventually they're gonna be like, hey, you know, like they're

1488
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 4: not filling up my cup enough here, Like I'm gonna

1489
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 4: stop going to that milkshake company until they start filling

1490
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 4: up my cup. And then you show up every once

1491
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:49,679
Speaker 4: in a while, maybe once a year, and they filled

1492
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 4: up a quarter of the way and you're like, oh

1493
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 4: my gosh, it's not getting better. It's getting worse.

1494
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 2: Like I like the milkshake, but they're just not giving

1495
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 2: me enough.

1496
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 4: If you're selling me hope, fill up my cup and

1497
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 4: I'll show up every single day. You're not giving me

1498
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 4: enough milkshake. I love how it tastes. I love how

1499
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 4: it tastes. But fill up my damn cup and I'll

1500
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 4: show up every day. That's where John Fisher and the

1501
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 4: Oakland Eggs franchise went wrong. And that's the reason why

1502
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 4: they're gonna be the Las Vegas Ays because they see

1503
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 4: firm they for they see Terra Firma and Vegas in

1504
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 4: the in the way of greenbacks dollar bills.

1505
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 2: It's it's it's despicable behavior.

1506
01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 3: I get it, and it's a good comparison. I just

1507
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 3: wouldn't be dumbfounded if you're the fan.

1508
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,519
Speaker 2: That's all. That's my big couldn't I.

1509
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 3: Get out the game that Yeah, boys, it was twenty

1510
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:43,360
Speaker 3: eight thousand for the reverse boycottshake.

1511
01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,839
Speaker 5: They say that that's what happens.

1512
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:47,720
Speaker 2: That's the thing is, Hey, I get it.

1513
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 3: The milkshake hasn't been full, it's been less than halfway filled.

1514
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 2: I totally get that.

1515
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 3: And it's a big ask to say, still show up

1516
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 3: in droves based on everything that's here at play, but

1517
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 3: don't sit there and just be like mouth wide open,

1518
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 3: like how could they leave us?

1519
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 2: It's like, bro, you guys are drawing seven thousand. Are

1520
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 2: you serious right now?

1521
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 4: But that's where you're wrong. They're not mouth a gape

1522
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,440
Speaker 4: and shocked by this revelation.

1523
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 5: They're not. They're not.

1524
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 4: What they are is they're distraught over the fact that

1525
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 4: they're being blamed. They're they're being blamed for the non

1526
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 4: participation on the side of the business operator.

1527
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:28,200
Speaker 2: They share being blamed that because.

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01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 4: You're serving me a terrible cheeseburger, that I'm not showing

1529
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 4: up to your fast food restaurant anymore. Gotta be there

1530
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 4: through the bad times too. So it's not a relationship,

1531
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 4: it's a business transaction. You keep comparing it to a marriage.

1532
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:43,120
Speaker 4: This isn't a marriage. This is a business.

1533
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 3: Business and they're not their bowl products.

1534
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 4: So what Royals and eating the burger that's going to

1535
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 4: poison you?

1536
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 2: And sorry, I'm not doing it. You keep getting your

1537
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 2: food poisoned.

1538
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 1: The funny thing is, I don't think the team's going

1539
01:16:58,880 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 1: to improve it.

1540
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know you need a Mills Wayne, let's get

1541
01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 6: it home, baby, But I can't. I don't think the

1542
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 6: team is going to get any better next year or

1543
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 6: whenever they move to Vegas, like it is going to

1544
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 6: be the same relatively bad team that has these good

1545
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:15,719
Speaker 6: players that.

1546
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:17,600
Speaker 1: Come and go and then eventually they'll move on.

1547
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 6: But I think the difference is, and look, right, this

1548
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 6: is a business decision.

1549
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 1: And let's be honest.

1550
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 6: On the Las Vegas Strip, it makes three o'clock in

1551
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 6: the afternoon, and you're walking down the street and you

1552
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 6: see the billboard that says Yankees versus A's, or even

1553
01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 6: Raised versus A's, you're.

1554
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: Gonna go check it out.

1555
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 6: And that's what Oakland doesn't have is the ability to

1556
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 6: just walk down the street and look and be like, oh,

1557
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:43,719
Speaker 6: there's a baseball game on today, let's.

1558
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 1: Go check it out.

1559
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 2: Can't come close to competing with that, Yeah, it's impossible.

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01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:47,200
Speaker 9: All right?

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Speaker 3: Now we shift from the Oakland A's with the uh,

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01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 3: what like the half milkshake if you will, that the.

1573
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 1: Product so unexpected but so perfect.

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01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 3: Slashing payroll and okay, we shift that to the San

1575
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 3: Diego State as texts over here, huh because they have

1576
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 3: informed the Mountain West that they are intending to leave.

1577
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 3: They have written a notice of their intent to resign

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01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 3: from the Mountain West Conference. No formal invitation from the

1579
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:01,719
Speaker 3: PAC twelve, the flirting with the Big twelve Fact twelve.

1580
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens there.

1581
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 3: But constant change, especially when it comes to the college

1582
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:09,599
Speaker 3: football landscape, and it goes beyond college football, obviously moving

1583
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 3: from an entire conference to another one, but we focus

1584
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:16,839
Speaker 3: mainly on college football, and it has just been changed

1585
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 3: city here the last handful of years, and it's just

1586
01:19:19,200 --> 01:19:20,799
Speaker 3: going to continue.

1587
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:25,679
Speaker 4: It's it's really really interesting what's happening in college football.

1588
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:28,480
Speaker 4: I mean, this is a microcosm of the larger conversation,

1589
01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 4: which is like, what are we going to be watching

1590
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:33,680
Speaker 4: in a couple of years, and who's going to be

1591
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 4: in these conferences? And you know, what's even going to

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01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 4: be of the Big twelve or the Pac twelve. Are

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01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 4: all these conferences still going to exist in the future,

1594
01:19:42,200 --> 01:19:44,879
Speaker 4: and the movement we're going to see over the next decade,

1595
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 4: in my opinion, is going to be astronomical.

1596
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 2: It's going to make your head spin. I'm I'm excited

1597
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 2: for what.

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01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:54,080
Speaker 4: The future holds for a program like the San Diego

1599
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 4: State football and basketball program because they've been better than

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01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 4: you know, maybe what their conference can do for them.

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01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 4: But this isn't the last of it. We're gonna see

1602
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,000
Speaker 4: a lot more of this type of stuff.

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01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:07,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't have much to say here. Besides, this

1604
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 6: is a long time coming. San Diego States program, especially

1605
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 6: with the football stadium, deserves to be in a higher

1606
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 6: echelon than the Mountain West, and I think the Pac

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01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 6: twelve should welcome them with open arms.

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01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:20,640
Speaker 3: Pierio gil like predicting games is tough enough, predicting the

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01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 3: conferences to be really challenging. All right, comeing up next.

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01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 3: Ownership is changing for two very different reasons. We'll compare

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Speaker 3: notes next.

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Speaker 2: Keep the punches up now, let's get it up.

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Speaker 3: We've been spirited so far today. There might be more

1618
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:52,360
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Speaker 3: should be, Fellows. We start with Michael Jordan, who's selling

1624
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 3: his majority steak in the Charlotte Hornets for an approximate

1625
01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 3: three billion dollar valuation. Not bad, not bad when he

1626
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 3: bought in for two hundred and seventy five million dollars

1627
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 3: and we're talking three billion here. But it was not

1628
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 3: a great run for Jordan as a team owner. Thirteen

1629
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 3: years the Hornets didn't win a single playoff series. And

1630
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:40,240
Speaker 3: you know what, I might be going way ahead of

1631
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:43,840
Speaker 3: ourselves here. This is in the distant future, but I

1632
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:47,639
Speaker 3: can just I can foresee some horrible arguments being made.

1633
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 3: I can just see this where look at Lebron Lebron

1634
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 3: is he's got his eye on ownership in the not

1635
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 3: too distant future. Let's say Lebron James as a much

1636
01:22:00,680 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 3: more successful run as a team owner than Michael Jordan did.

1637
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 3: You're going to hear people enter that into the chat, right, Like,

1638
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 3: put that into the I'm with you, Jared.

1639
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:14,799
Speaker 2: It's like, if we're.

1640
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 3: Talking about who's the best basketball player, who had the

1641
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 3: best career or anything like that, it should be on

1642
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 3: the court. And that is it when they are in

1643
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:26,240
Speaker 3: uniform and not in a suit and tie, you know

1644
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 3: what I mean. Like if Smush partner Smush Parker is

1645
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 3: a great businessman, that doesn't mean he's a better player

1646
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 3: than Kobe, you know what I mean. Like, I don't

1647
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:36,320
Speaker 3: care if Lebron goes on to be a team owner

1648
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:39,959
Speaker 3: and wins championship after championship. If we're just evaluating players,

1649
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 3: it should just be about playing, that's all.

1650
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 5: No doubt, no doubt.

1651
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 4: I mean, look, Magic Johnson is one of the most

1652
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 4: successful businessmen on the planet. You know, if you base

1653
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 4: it from where he started from in his early life

1654
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 4: to where he's at now, he's a titan of industry.

1655
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 4: He's not the best basketball player. Uh And and that's

1656
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 4: because we know, I mean, in my opinion, I'm sure

1657
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:11,240
Speaker 4: that people argue with me Lebron's better, Jordan's better. You know, Shoot,

1658
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 4: there's people tell you Larry Bird's better. They may have

1659
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 4: an argument.

1660
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:15,639
Speaker 5: The point.

1661
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 4: The point is, though, that all has to do with

1662
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:19,759
Speaker 4: what he's done on the court. You know, it doesn't

1663
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:23,680
Speaker 4: matter how many franchises he owns, or how many ownership

1664
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 4: groups he's involved in, and however many sports leagues and

1665
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 4: that's a growing number as we speak. Every single time

1666
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 4: you see Magic Johnson's name, it's usually attached to some

1667
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 4: ownership group in a new league.

1668
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't think.

1669
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 4: I don't think this, this goat conversation can really happen

1670
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:51,040
Speaker 4: anywhere or should happen anywhere other than what's happened over

1671
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 4: the course of playing careers.

1672
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 6: The goat conversation is one of the dumbest things that

1673
01:23:55,000 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 6: we do, and I understand why we do it. There's

1674
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 6: airtime to fill, we like to talk. People have their opinions.

1675
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 6: It's fun to compare, but I like to think of

1676
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:12,719
Speaker 6: it in terms of how I view myself and if

1677
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:16,600
Speaker 6: I would appreciate someone else comparing me to another broadcaster

1678
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:20,599
Speaker 6: or gambler in the space. I'm my own person. I'm

1679
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 6: my own personality, I'm my own entity. I'm in this generation.

1680
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:27,799
Speaker 6: Mj was in one generation. Lebron was in a different generation.

1681
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:34,400
Speaker 6: It really holds no value to compare them because we

1682
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 6: will never get a definitive answer.

1683
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:40,320
Speaker 1: It is subjective. It is your opinion.

1684
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,719
Speaker 6: Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and that is where

1685
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 6: the conversation ends. There is never going to be a

1686
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 6: winner or a loser in the is Lebron James better

1687
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 6: than Michael Jordan debate or who is the goat debate?

1688
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 1: It is always going to be subjective.

1689
01:24:55,960 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 6: But we present the arguments like we have we know

1690
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 6: the answer and it's in black and white, like the

1691
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 6: president the first president of the United States was George Washington. Like,

1692
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 6: we're never going to get a definitive answer about this debate.

1693
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:15,919
Speaker 1: Do I think Michael Jordan is a better player than Owner? Yeah?

1694
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 6: Do I think Lebron James has a chance to be

1695
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,479
Speaker 6: the best player in the history of the world.

1696
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:23,439
Speaker 1: Maybe who cares?

1697
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 6: Though he's really good, He's the sun right, photosynthesis runs

1698
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 6: through Lebron James. But the goat debate, especially when we

1699
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 6: bring now ownership into the mix and post playing career

1700
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 6: into the mix, These guys are completely different people. They

1701
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 6: grew up in completely different generations. You saw the movie Air.

1702
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 6: The meeting room that Michael Jordan went into during his

1703
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 6: Nike meeting was they were running off of it like

1704
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 6: a projector. It was like a completely different era and

1705
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 6: time that they grew up in. So it's impossible to

1706
01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 6: compare these guys. But if I had to compare it, yea,

1707
01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 6: I think Lebron's going to.

1708
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 1: Be better owner than Michael Jordan.

1709
01:26:02,040 --> 01:26:06,680
Speaker 3: Joe, Oh yeah, you didn't set the bar very in

1710
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 3: terms of ownership success.

1711
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 2: Look, man, it's look, I get it.

1712
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 3: People have their opinions and people have their rooting interest

1713
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,640
Speaker 3: and that factors into it as well. The thing that

1714
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 3: I dislike about the Goat conversation, it's cool to a

1715
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 3: point and then it's just complete overkill. But the real

1716
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:26,719
Speaker 3: tragedy is when you are saying this guy is better

1717
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 3: than that guy. A lot of times you're making that

1718
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 3: guy sound like he's chump change. And Lebron James has

1719
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 3: had an amazing career. I don't think it's better than

1720
01:26:36,000 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 3: Jordan's career, but that doesn't mean it hasn't been amazing.

1721
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 3: It has been, and so that's where I think the

1722
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 3: real problem comes in is if you're throwing your two

1723
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 3: cents in for this dude, well, that dude, it looks

1724
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 3: like he barely lasted five years in the league, and

1725
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:57,440
Speaker 3: that's not the case whatsoever. The other thing, though, is

1726
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 3: my mind goes to a stupid place.

1727
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 2: He's selling to a.

1728
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:05,599
Speaker 3: Group led by Gabe Platkin and Rick Schnall.

1729
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 2: Which is the better rich guy name? Right?

1730
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 1: Is it?

1731
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:12,640
Speaker 3: Is it Gabe Platkin who sounds like he's gonna be

1732
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:14,640
Speaker 3: doing something that adds up to a lot of.

1733
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 2: Money, or Rick Schnall. I'll go Schnall. It sounds more

1734
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:21,320
Speaker 2: rich to me than Platkin myself.

1735
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 5: Sall, Yeah, I don't know.

1736
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, yeah it does.

1737
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 4: I mean it's uh, the fun The fun part about

1738
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 4: this is celebrity owners I think overall is such an

1739
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 4: interesting thing that's happened to to our culture. Like there's brand, like,

1740
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 4: there's there's brand loyalty, and then there's now celebrity loyalty,

1741
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 4: Like there is such thing as being famous for famous sake,

1742
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 4: and that is now a very lucrative, lucrative business, like

1743
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 4: just being famous. You can live off of fame.

1744
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:03,679
Speaker 5: Now. It used to be this way, like you.

1745
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 4: Had to have a really important, highly visible skill to

1746
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:12,720
Speaker 4: make you money and be famous. Now because you're famous,

1747
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 4: you can make a ton of money. Like if you're

1748
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:19,920
Speaker 4: an Instagram influencer, it doesn't really matter if you're good

1749
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 4: at anything, but if a lot of people follow you

1750
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 4: on Instagram, you can make a ton of money. So

1751
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 4: it's the tail wagging the dog all of a sudden.

1752
01:28:28,200 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 4: And I'm pretty sure there's a lot of people who

1753
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,680
Speaker 4: know Michael Jordan. They know his name, they wear his

1754
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 4: sneakers maybe, and they've never actually seen a clip of

1755
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 4: him playing basketball, but true, And so all of a sudden,

1756
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 4: like you know, these these people, because of their celebrity

1757
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:48,679
Speaker 4: and how they're celebrated in culture, they're welcomed into these

1758
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 4: circles that normally you have to be, like some anonymous

1759
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 4: rich guy who's made his fortune in oil or selling,

1760
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 4: you know, do dads and what you McCall. It's for

1761
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 4: years and years and years before it gets an opportunity

1762
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 4: to own a sports team. You know, these famous people

1763
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,840
Speaker 4: are getting to own these sports teams and then they're

1764
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 4: getting involved and frankly, some of them and I'm not

1765
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 4: including Michael Jordan, obviously knows more about basketball than I'll

1766
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:16,600
Speaker 4: ever know, but all of a sudden, they they have

1767
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 4: no idea what to do with the rains. I think

1768
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 4: we're gonna start seeing this more and more in sports,

1769
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,639
Speaker 4: like we're gonna have, We're going to have, Like, for example,

1770
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 4: Dwayne the Rock Johnson is running the XFL. The ACFL

1771
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:32,719
Speaker 4: lost sixty million dollars in its first season. Dwayne maxed

1772
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 4: out his football ability at Miami UH and then he

1773
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:40,759
Speaker 4: made his bones as a WW entertainer and an actor.

1774
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 4: Does he really know how to run a sports league?

1775
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 4: The dnswer is probably not, but we're gonna trust him

1776
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 4: because he has six million followers on Instagram or whatever

1777
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 4: it is. It's it's an interesting world we're stepping into now.

1778
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 6: The Instagram or I would call it even more TikTok

1779
01:29:58,280 --> 01:29:59,959
Speaker 6: generation of influence.

1780
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:01,839
Speaker 1: It's wild.

1781
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:06,599
Speaker 6: I follow like fifteen dogs on TikTok that I feel

1782
01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:08,880
Speaker 6: like I have a stronger relationship with than most of

1783
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:10,680
Speaker 6: the people in my life.

1784
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:12,679
Speaker 1: It's true, and I love.

1785
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:14,559
Speaker 6: If I saw one of these dogs on the street,

1786
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 6: I would probably lose just lose it, absolutely lose my mind,

1787
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 6: like almost like spotting Lebron James or or you know

1788
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:24,599
Speaker 6: Michael Jordan on the street and wanting to talk to them.

1789
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:30,519
Speaker 6: So the level of celebrity status in our country has changed.

1790
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 6: Being a great athlete obviously will make you a celebrity,

1791
01:30:34,920 --> 01:30:36,640
Speaker 6: and being a great athlete.

1792
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 1: Is one in a million. You've got to have the

1793
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 1: right talent.

1794
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:42,040
Speaker 6: You've got to have the right temperament, you have to

1795
01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 6: have the right timing, you have to play the right sport,

1796
01:30:44,560 --> 01:30:46,639
Speaker 6: you have to have the right parents, the right upbringing.

1797
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 1: All of that.

1798
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 6: It doesn't take as much to be a TikTok star.

1799
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 6: You have to just be creative and understand social media

1800
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:56,360
Speaker 6: a little bit. My point being, I wouldn't be shocked

1801
01:30:56,400 --> 01:31:00,680
Speaker 6: if these TikTok stars, these influencers, the general that he's

1802
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 6: even younger than me. I'm in my thirties. This is

1803
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 6: more teenagers in their twenties. If they grow up and

1804
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:10,040
Speaker 6: eventually start buying professional sports franchises or start buying Fortune

1805
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:13,759
Speaker 6: five hundred companies, because they are the new generational wealth

1806
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:14,479
Speaker 6: in our country.

1807
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 1: It is a little bit different.

1808
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 6: You don't have to have the physical skill as much

1809
01:31:19,680 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 6: anymore to be a celebrity as you do. Just to

1810
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:26,559
Speaker 6: be creative and be smart and be funny. So I

1811
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 6: do think the dynamic is shifting. I know we've kind

1812
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:29,759
Speaker 6: of gotten off the rails.

1813
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:30,040
Speaker 1: With this conversation.

1814
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how we got here, but.

1815
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:37,679
Speaker 6: I'm fascinated to see how the end of the Michael

1816
01:31:37,760 --> 01:31:41,479
Speaker 6: Jordan ownership rain kind of happens and who the next

1817
01:31:41,560 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 6: great athlete is.

1818
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:44,640
Speaker 1: I guess it's Tom Brady.

1819
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 6: To buy a team and to have his teeth or

1820
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 6: his claws sunk into how the team is run instead

1821
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 6: of just worried about how the game is being played.

1822
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:57,479
Speaker 3: Well, the thing to me is it's always interesting how

1823
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 3: a person can be great at something and not even

1824
01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 3: good at something else. We see a lot of examples

1825
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:08,480
Speaker 3: where there might be a professor that is just brilliant

1826
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 3: in a certain area and then can barely open the

1827
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:13,439
Speaker 3: car door, you know what I mean. So if you

1828
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 3: look at Jordan, unbelievable basketball player, we all know that,

1829
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:21,160
Speaker 3: and not even close to good as a team owner,

1830
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:25,559
Speaker 3: and that's crazy to me. We'll see what Lebron does,

1831
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 3: because he certainly has his eye on that, and Lebron

1832
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 3: might actually be a much better team owner. I still

1833
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:35,400
Speaker 3: look at the comparison and it's advantage MJ in my mind.

1834
01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:37,400
Speaker 3: As far as a team, I think as far as

1835
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 3: a player, I think he's the goat where if you

1836
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:42,800
Speaker 3: do the brief resume, it's MJ.

1837
01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:44,599
Speaker 2: It's just more right.

1838
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 3: It's more championships, it's more finals MVPs, it's more regular

1839
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:52,040
Speaker 3: season MVPs than Lebron. Lebron's the all time scorer, but

1840
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:55,679
Speaker 3: he's a compiler. He led the league in scoring one year,

1841
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 3: MJ did it ten times. Right, more First Team All

1842
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:03,320
Speaker 3: Defense for MJ over Lebron, and so like, as far

1843
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:05,920
Speaker 3: as a player, that's a done deal for me. As

1844
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:09,360
Speaker 3: far as ownership, Lebron probably be five times the owner

1845
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:12,679
Speaker 3: that MJ was because Jordan didn't even win a playoff

1846
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 3: series in thirteen years.

1847
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 2: But look, it's.

1848
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:18,200
Speaker 3: Fascinating to me. You could be great in one thing

1849
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:22,599
Speaker 3: not even good at another. But also there's no shame

1850
01:33:22,680 --> 01:33:25,920
Speaker 3: in not surpassing Jordan, you know what I mean?

1851
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:27,559
Speaker 1: Like, how much do you put the success of a

1852
01:33:27,640 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 1: team on the owner? Though? Is the question really right? Well?

1853
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 2: A lot, yeah, a lot. I mean, we were just

1854
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 2: talking about John Fisher and Oakland.

1855
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:39,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, that is extenuating circumstances, though, I'm talking about the

1856
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 6: average team, average year average basketball team. Let's let's do basketball.

1857
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 6: How much are the Nuggets' success this year? Stan Chronike's well.

1858
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 4: Direct, it's it's a lot because he's responsible for I mean,

1859
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:58,160
Speaker 4: essentially he's last say on who gets hired, right, right,

1860
01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 4: So you know you're putting the foundation in place. Yeah,

1861
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:03,639
Speaker 4: you got to hire all your executives. You gotta hire

1862
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 4: all the people who are going to be hiring your

1863
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 4: head coach.

1864
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 6: You gotta hire all the But it trickles down, right,

1865
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:12,559
Speaker 6: So eventually Chronicky's influence once he makes that hire and

1866
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:16,280
Speaker 6: he trusts whoever the operations guy is or the coach,

1867
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 6: it's a lot more the players. Right Still, at the

1868
01:34:19,439 --> 01:34:21,720
Speaker 6: end of the day, Oh, the players that win championships.

1869
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:26,280
Speaker 4: Accountability, Yeah, it starts at the top. But I mean,

1870
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 4: the most visible and obviously tangible part of winning a

1871
01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:35,519
Speaker 4: championship are the guys who are going to put on

1872
01:34:35,560 --> 01:34:38,720
Speaker 4: the jerseys. But you got to remember who owns the laundry,

1873
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:39,599
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

1874
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:40,960
Speaker 1: Like, here's here's the follow up.

1875
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 6: Which sport do you think the owner has the most

1876
01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:46,320
Speaker 6: impact directly on wins and losses?

1877
01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 4: I would say the sport that has the most importance

1878
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 4: in terms of who your executives and your coaches are,

1879
01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 4: which is the NFL, because at the end of the day,

1880
01:34:56,680 --> 01:35:00,560
Speaker 4: in the NBA, you could have one or two exceedingly

1881
01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 4: talented players and it doesn't matter who the head coach

1882
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 4: or the owner.

1883
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 1: Is great, and I feel the same about baseball too.

1884
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:08,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh completely, But the NFL.

1885
01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:11,599
Speaker 6: There's no salary cap and base there is no limit

1886
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:13,719
Speaker 6: to how the executives can manage the teams.

1887
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:14,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1888
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh, it's it really in my mind, it

1889
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:21,600
Speaker 4: comes down to the NFL being the most difficult to

1890
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:25,240
Speaker 4: build that foundation, and once you have it, man, oh man,

1891
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 4: you don't let go of it.

1892
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 5: That's why Craft has no Belichick for two decades.

1893
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:31,920
Speaker 2: It's funny you took the thought right out of my head.

1894
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:36,919
Speaker 1: It's an interesting side, you know, the sports.

1895
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:39,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand where you're coming from. Where you know,

1896
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:42,880
Speaker 3: you could look at it cynically. And Robert Kraft he

1897
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:46,360
Speaker 3: didn't have great success before Brady was there, So how

1898
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 3: much credit do you give him for one hiring Belichick?

1899
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 3: That's got to be a lot of credit right there.

1900
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:55,040
Speaker 3: And then you know the staff that he builds and

1901
01:35:55,080 --> 01:35:58,639
Speaker 3: the decision to draft Brady, the decision to keep him

1902
01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 3: as a fourth string core her back in his rookie.

1903
01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:04,639
Speaker 6: Getting Belichick away from the Jets arguably is the most

1904
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 6: impactful move in the recent era of NFL executive moves

1905
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 6: that we've had.

1906
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:14,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I also think how long is the runway?

1907
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:17,479
Speaker 3: I can understand if you don't turn around a losing

1908
01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:20,720
Speaker 3: franchise in three years.

1909
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:22,040
Speaker 6: And the Hornets in that realm, That's what I say, Like,

1910
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:24,200
Speaker 6: even if the Hornets had the best owner in the

1911
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:26,439
Speaker 6: history of owners, are they still a winning team?

1912
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:29,439
Speaker 2: Yes? Absolutely?

1913
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:32,160
Speaker 6: Its that big of a negative impact because the way

1914
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:34,880
Speaker 6: I see the Charlotte Hornet situation, I don't know if

1915
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:37,639
Speaker 6: even if the best owners would have been able to fix.

1916
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely no, no doubt about it.

1917
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 5: Zero.

1918
01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:41,439
Speaker 2: Because Yeah, give we give.

1919
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:45,200
Speaker 4: A lot of credit to, you know, to general managers

1920
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 4: in the NBA for their ability to you know, like

1921
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:51,599
Speaker 4: pat Riley what he's done with the Heat. You know,

1922
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:56,720
Speaker 4: he's really turned Miami into a perennial playoff team. And

1923
01:36:56,720 --> 01:36:59,360
Speaker 4: and it's because he's got a good eye for talent

1924
01:36:59,439 --> 01:37:01,679
Speaker 4: at the coach He's got a good eye for talent

1925
01:37:02,120 --> 01:37:05,120
Speaker 4: at the personnel player, personnel level. You Know, we give

1926
01:37:05,120 --> 01:37:07,080
Speaker 4: a lot of credit to Oh, what's his name? Who

1927
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:13,320
Speaker 4: just stepped down in Golden State? Bob, Bob Myers, Bob Myers,

1928
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:16,640
Speaker 4: like I mean, And it's because, you know, he's assembled

1929
01:37:16,640 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 4: a cast of characters who put together not only the

1930
01:37:20,479 --> 01:37:23,800
Speaker 4: players on the court, but also the right personalities to

1931
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:28,440
Speaker 4: run a very difficult dynamic of personalities.

1932
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:28,800
Speaker 5: You know.

1933
01:37:29,439 --> 01:37:33,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, We've got Rich Hornberger, Penn State All American,

1934
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:36,479
Speaker 3: Jared Smith FSR betting analyst.

1935
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:39,479
Speaker 2: I'm Brian. No, well, that's still left.

1936
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:41,639
Speaker 3: To go over here. He got a shoehorn as much

1937
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:45,559
Speaker 3: good stuff as we can. Uh, what is this freaking guy?

1938
01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 3: Is he trying to get fired? Well, we dive into that.

1939
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:49,880
Speaker 2: Coming up.

1940
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:52,799
Speaker 3: It's Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio.

1941
01:37:53,479 --> 01:37:56,600
Speaker 3: Welcome Ackga, It's Fox Sports Saturday Live from the tairaq

1942
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Speaker 3: dot com studios.

1943
01:37:59,680 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 7: Wow.

1944
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:02,880
Speaker 3: So not a great story to report here on Father's

1945
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 3: Day weekend. Shout out to all the fathers out there.

1946
01:38:06,840 --> 01:38:11,320
Speaker 3: Bob Huggins, head coach at West Virginia, head basketball coach.

1947
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 3: He was arrested for a DUI charge on Friday night.

1948
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:21,759
Speaker 3: So the details here. He was arrested under the influence

1949
01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:24,960
Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Police. They said that there was a black

1950
01:38:25,120 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 3: suv blocking traffic just before eight thirty pm on Friday.

1951
01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 3: The vehicle had a flat and shredded tire and the

1952
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:39,840
Speaker 3: driver's side door was open. Now here's the thing. We

1953
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:42,880
Speaker 3: started off the show talking about Jah Morant. Okay, he's

1954
01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 3: been suspended for twenty five games for a second gun.

1955
01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:50,839
Speaker 2: Video on IG live. If you look at.

1956
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 3: Bob Huggins, I mean, if we're gonna be like, hey, Joe,

1957
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:57,680
Speaker 3: you gotta grow up. Bob Huggins is a sixty nine

1958
01:38:57,720 --> 01:39:00,920
Speaker 3: year old man, Okay, and he had had an anti

1959
01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:04,480
Speaker 3: gay slur on a Cincinnati radio show.

1960
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Speaker 2: Just six weeks ago.

1961
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Speaker 3: Wow, and he got a light tap on the wrist,

1962
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:11,920
Speaker 3: a little slap on the wrist, like bad, bad Bob.

1963
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 3: You know, a couple of games you're suspended for when

1964
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:17,600
Speaker 3: you're playing like the athletes in action or whoever in

1965
01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:20,640
Speaker 3: the non conference schedule, and it doesn't even matter. And

1966
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:24,759
Speaker 3: now he's getting popped for driving under the influence six

1967
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:29,360
Speaker 3: weeks later after the anti gay slur. It's like, Bro,

1968
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 3: this guy is not in his twenties. He's sixty nine

1969
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:36,720
Speaker 3: years old. He's the head coach. He's supposed to be

1970
01:39:37,040 --> 01:39:41,479
Speaker 3: leading the kids on his squad and he's getting popped

1971
01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:44,960
Speaker 3: again after he just got a free pass because of

1972
01:39:45,040 --> 01:39:48,240
Speaker 3: the slur on a radio show. You gotta know better

1973
01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 3: than that. So I don't know how this dude keeps

1974
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:53,640
Speaker 3: his job going forward. And I know we're in a

1975
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:56,880
Speaker 3: society now where the first sign of wrongdoing it's like,

1976
01:39:56,960 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 3: just get him out. It doesn't make sense all the time.

1977
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:01,200
Speaker 3: I think it makes sense in this situation.

1978
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, the unfortunate reality is as a college coach, I

1979
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:12,200
Speaker 4: mean you're not You're really not just coaching. You know,

1980
01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:15,400
Speaker 4: you could make that argument at the professional level, It's like, okay,

1981
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:18,519
Speaker 4: I mean you know, we all know that twenty one

1982
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:23,320
Speaker 4: twenty two year olds, whatever professional basketball or football coaches

1983
01:40:23,479 --> 01:40:27,120
Speaker 4: or baseball managers get their hands on, aren't finished products

1984
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:30,439
Speaker 4: as people either. I mean it's even scientific. We know

1985
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:34,000
Speaker 4: that the brain is still growing and maturity is still

1986
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:40,880
Speaker 4: happening at those ages. But at the college level, like,

1987
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:45,200
Speaker 4: you're not just coaching, you are truly helping sculpt people.

1988
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 4: You know, you are in certain cases, maybe the only

1989
01:40:49,080 --> 01:40:53,120
Speaker 4: positive role model some of these guys will have in

1990
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 4: their lives, you know, depending on the situation they come from.

1991
01:40:56,400 --> 01:41:01,120
Speaker 4: I mean, I had obviously good coaches along my path

1992
01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:05,799
Speaker 4: at bad coaches. But the most critical, if you're asking

1993
01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:09,280
Speaker 4: me times in a young athlete's life in terms of

1994
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 4: role models is during your formative years in high school

1995
01:41:13,080 --> 01:41:16,160
Speaker 4: and college, because you are laying the bricks that the

1996
01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:19,400
Speaker 4: rest of a player's career are going to be seated on.

1997
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:23,439
Speaker 4: And so yeah, when you have multiple occurrences like this

1998
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:30,880
Speaker 4: where poor judgment really really is and publicly embarrassing poor

1999
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 4: judgment for a basketball program and for a head coach,

2000
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I hate the whole Hey, you know

2001
01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:42,160
Speaker 4: it's time to call for this guy's job, and then

2002
01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:45,439
Speaker 4: the mob lights their torches and you know, they march

2003
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:46,160
Speaker 4: to his house.

2004
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Speaker 5: But this is a terrible look for Bob Huggins.

2005
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 6: And it would be one thing if they were winning

2006
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:54,559
Speaker 6: games and going to the tournament every year and making noise,

2007
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:58,880
Speaker 6: then you would at least have well, they're really successful,

2008
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:02,680
Speaker 6: and a lot lot of times coaches and frankly, athletes

2009
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:05,880
Speaker 6: get that free pass or they get out of jail

2010
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:09,640
Speaker 6: free card because they're wildly successful on the court, on

2011
01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:13,720
Speaker 6: the field, whatever. West Virginia hasn't had a twenty win

2012
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:17,000
Speaker 6: season in three years, and they've been to two tournaments

2013
01:42:17,000 --> 01:42:21,920
Speaker 6: in the last five seasons, you know, like it just

2014
01:42:22,040 --> 01:42:25,360
Speaker 6: doesn't make I don't know what's going on in Bob's life.

2015
01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 1: We don't know.

2016
01:42:26,479 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 6: Could have been a really bad day for him and

2017
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:30,920
Speaker 6: he needed to go out and have a beer, multiple

2018
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 6: beers and whatever, and he made a mistake.

2019
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:34,759
Speaker 1: And I get it, people make mistakes.

2020
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Speaker 6: You don't want to judge someone completely on their lowest moments.

2021
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:41,160
Speaker 6: But when you are making the kind of money that

2022
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:43,400
Speaker 6: these coaches make, and when you are held to the

2023
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:45,679
Speaker 6: standard that a college and I agree with everything.

2024
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:46,000
Speaker 1: Rich is saying.

2025
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:49,800
Speaker 6: The college coaches are more father figures than any other

2026
01:42:49,880 --> 01:42:53,439
Speaker 6: coach in any other professional sport, for sure, So you

2027
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 6: do it's like multiple facets here. They're not winning. He

2028
01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:00,840
Speaker 6: needs to be held to a higher stand and he's

2029
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:02,920
Speaker 6: been at West Virginia for a long time. It's not

2030
01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:05,600
Speaker 6: like this is a new coach and we want to

2031
01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 6: give him a chance to succeed, and you know, maybe

2032
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 6: he just made that one mistake.

2033
01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:12,920
Speaker 1: Like this is the.

2034
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 6: Trend is definitely in the downward direction here, and I

2035
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:19,120
Speaker 6: think West Virginia might need a new, you know, situation

2036
01:43:19,280 --> 01:43:21,840
Speaker 6: to kind of boost the program, boost everything. So I

2037
01:43:22,280 --> 01:43:24,040
Speaker 6: feel for Bob I'm sure it was a tough night,

2038
01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:26,519
Speaker 6: tough morning for him. But yeah, I'm kind of in

2039
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:29,040
Speaker 6: everyone's boat here that it probably makes sense to move

2040
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:29,519
Speaker 6: on from this.

2041
01:43:30,000 --> 01:43:33,880
Speaker 3: I just man, if I don't know if the the

2042
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 3: slur was like four years ago, you know that that's

2043
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:42,880
Speaker 3: different and then the DUI six weeks ago. Man, And

2044
01:43:42,920 --> 01:43:45,479
Speaker 3: that's why I immediately go back to John Morant and

2045
01:43:46,280 --> 01:43:48,679
Speaker 3: a lot of the issue with joh in the second

2046
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 3: gun video was it was two months after right, and

2047
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:55,280
Speaker 3: think about Huggins and everything. You could go back to

2048
01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:57,760
Speaker 3: his apology with the anti gay slur and it was

2049
01:43:57,760 --> 01:44:01,679
Speaker 3: a great, well written well after the apology, I accept

2050
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:02,240
Speaker 3: all blame.

2051
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:03,280
Speaker 2: I gotta be better.

2052
01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:07,959
Speaker 3: And six weeks later, you're blocking traffic with the shredded

2053
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:11,879
Speaker 3: tire and the driver's side door open while you're tanked,

2054
01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:14,639
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like Harol, it's just words.

2055
01:44:15,240 --> 01:44:20,000
Speaker 3: I'm sick and tired of just flowery words and actions

2056
01:44:20,040 --> 01:44:20,719
Speaker 3: that don't.

2057
01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:21,720
Speaker 2: Support it whatsoever.

2058
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:26,600
Speaker 3: Agree, And it's way different, I think where it's a

2059
01:44:26,640 --> 01:44:29,400
Speaker 3: sixty nine year old man. It's not like John Morant,

2060
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:32,080
Speaker 3: who's more like Johnny Football, you know what I mean

2061
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 3: as far as their age.

2062
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:37,960
Speaker 1: And hasn't he gotten arrested for that before? Yes, hasn't

2063
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:40,720
Speaker 1: he had issues with duys? And the has had a

2064
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:43,160
Speaker 1: dui in the that even makes it worse.

2065
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:46,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I understand, like the like, the slur

2066
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 6: and the duy are two very different things. Granted they

2067
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:54,360
Speaker 6: are both lapses in judgment, they are very much much

2068
01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:57,799
Speaker 6: in different spheres of lapses in judgment. When you've already

2069
01:44:57,880 --> 01:45:01,400
Speaker 6: had a duy, yeah, that follows you, then you have

2070
01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:01,920
Speaker 6: another one?

2071
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:06,599
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah, because then also again it chips away

2072
01:45:06,640 --> 01:45:11,720
Speaker 4: at integrity and like, for example, you know you are

2073
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:15,519
Speaker 4: going to have situations as a college football coach where

2074
01:45:15,560 --> 01:45:18,080
Speaker 4: you have to have a stern conversation with a player

2075
01:45:18,120 --> 01:45:21,840
Speaker 4: about drinking. You know, maybe he's partying too much, maybe

2076
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 4: he's burning the candle at both ends, and you're you're

2077
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:27,599
Speaker 4: trying to get him to focus in on the important things.

2078
01:45:28,040 --> 01:45:30,160
Speaker 2: Well, how how how.

2079
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:32,000
Speaker 4: Good is that message when it's coming from a guy

2080
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:33,920
Speaker 4: where the player can go, what about you?

2081
01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:34,320
Speaker 5: Bob?

2082
01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Bob.

2083
01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:40,760
Speaker 6: It's ironic because that's the meme from from uh you know,

2084
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 6: a better call Saul, but it's also his name.

2085
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:46,639
Speaker 1: It holds double double weight here.

2086
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:51,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, what's part of which part is that Jared.

2087
01:45:51,479 --> 01:45:54,759
Speaker 1: The better call Saul meme not great Bob?

2088
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 6: Right, you see that that actually is a meme that

2089
01:45:58,360 --> 01:46:00,400
Speaker 6: I see all the time, not great Bob.

2090
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:06,400
Speaker 1: And it's actually his name, the Bill Murray rich mad Man.

2091
01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:10,679
Speaker 1: Thank you. Oh sorry, sorry, better call same actor, different differ.

2092
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:15,400
Speaker 4: The Bill Murray Richard Dreyfuss movie too. What about Bob?

2093
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:18,360
Speaker 4: You know, I mean every player when they get caught

2094
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:21,799
Speaker 4: out drinking, they're going to well, what about Bob?

2095
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean.

2096
01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:24,880
Speaker 1: It's just you're right, it is mad Men. I'm looking.

2097
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:27,280
Speaker 6: I'm looking at it now because someone actually responded to

2098
01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:28,920
Speaker 6: one of the tweets.

2099
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:33,120
Speaker 1: About this with that meme. Yeah. Really funny.

2100
01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:35,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, all right, I feel.

2101
01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:37,639
Speaker 1: Bad laughing, but it still is kind of funny.

2102
01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:40,240
Speaker 3: We have to laugh at ourselves, right hey, Nick Cope

2103
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:44,120
Speaker 3: with the assist on mad Men. Yeah, and Nick Cope

2104
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:47,960
Speaker 3: with the assist in sports information right now?

2105
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:49,640
Speaker 2: An update for us, what's going on?

2106
01:46:49,800 --> 01:46:50,000
Speaker 1: Nick?

2107
01:46:50,120 --> 01:46:51,160
Speaker 7: Hey, what's up guys?

2108
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:54,080
Speaker 8: Just to give some some more context to this Bob

2109
01:46:54,160 --> 01:46:58,320
Speaker 8: Huggins situation. He had the three game suspension, the million

2110
01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:01,120
Speaker 8: dollar pay cut for the anti gay slur. Also part

2111
01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:03,800
Speaker 8: of that his contract is now year to year with

2112
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:06,600
Speaker 8: West Virginia, so that gives all the power to the

2113
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:09,400
Speaker 8: school and they can easily cut ties with him now.

2114
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:12,600
Speaker 8: And the school did release his statement saying they're on

2115
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:15,599
Speaker 8: the process of gathering more information and they will take

2116
01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:19,240
Speaker 8: appropriate action once the review is complete.

2117
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:19,800
Speaker 1: He's gone.

2118
01:47:20,439 --> 01:47:22,240
Speaker 6: Mike prediction on this sho that's my pick for the

2119
01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:23,760
Speaker 6: show is Bob Huggins will not make it.

2120
01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:26,479
Speaker 3: I agree, And it's similar I keep on doing the

2121
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:29,400
Speaker 3: job thing. But it's similarly when John Morant met with

2122
01:47:29,439 --> 01:47:32,840
Speaker 3: Adam Silver the first time, and you know, I gotta

2123
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:34,960
Speaker 3: be better, I gotta do better. Yeah, I'll do better,

2124
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:37,960
Speaker 3: and then he didn't. Adam Silver is ticked off. Think

2125
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 3: about West Virginia. Who okay, Anti Geysler, all right, Bob

2126
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:45,559
Speaker 3: a million dollar fine, three games like, come on, let's

2127
01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:45,920
Speaker 3: do it.

2128
01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:49,000
Speaker 2: And then six weeks later he's driving drunk.

2129
01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:51,120
Speaker 1: They have an out. He is gone within the next.

2130
01:47:51,120 --> 01:47:52,320
Speaker 2: Gone gone gone.

2131
01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:55,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, and he did have another Doio was way back

2132
01:47:55,120 --> 01:47:57,840
Speaker 8: in two thousand and four when he was with Cincinnati,

2133
01:47:57,880 --> 01:48:00,560
Speaker 8: and it was one of many reasons why he'll ultimately

2134
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 8: ended up leaving that job. So yeah, not a great night,

2135
01:48:04,240 --> 01:48:07,439
Speaker 8: not a good morning for Bob Huggins, Great Bob, great Bob,

2136
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:11,479
Speaker 8: not great Bob, Pete Campbell, great line in golf.

2137
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:13,360
Speaker 7: It is moving day at the US Open today.

2138
01:48:13,439 --> 01:48:16,479
Speaker 8: Ricky Fowler leads through thirty six holes at ten under par.

2139
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 8: Wyndham Clark one shot back in second, Roy McRoy and

2140
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:23,000
Speaker 8: Xander Schoffley tied for third, their two shots off the pace.

2141
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:25,960
Speaker 8: They're gonna get play underway in about an hour from now.

2142
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:28,920
Speaker 8: The leaders will not tee off until the three pm

2143
01:48:29,040 --> 01:48:32,439
Speaker 8: Eastern hour. And we had some late scores. In baseball,

2144
01:48:32,479 --> 01:48:35,040
Speaker 8: Dodgers were no hitting the Giants through six innings, but

2145
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:37,559
Speaker 8: San Francisco rallied for a seven to five win in

2146
01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:41,080
Speaker 8: eleven innings. Giants have won five straight. Mariners edged the

2147
01:48:41,080 --> 01:48:43,559
Speaker 8: White Sox three to two, raised off the p Andres

2148
01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:46,360
Speaker 8: six to two. Tampa now fifty one in twenty two.

2149
01:48:46,400 --> 01:48:48,639
Speaker 8: At the top of the big leagues, d Back snapped

2150
01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:50,320
Speaker 8: a three game skid with a five to one win

2151
01:48:50,360 --> 01:48:53,000
Speaker 8: against the Guardians, and the Phillies won their fourth straight

2152
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:55,280
Speaker 8: a six to one victory against the A's.

2153
01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:57,639
Speaker 2: Back to you, guys, Thanks Dick.

2154
01:48:57,720 --> 01:49:00,920
Speaker 3: It is Fox Sports Saturday right here on Sports Radio.

2155
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:02,519
Speaker 3: You know I got just the thing to perk you

2156
01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:05,400
Speaker 3: guys up, you know, because some of it's been the

2157
01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:09,639
Speaker 3: Ja Morant suspension. Some of it's been Bob Huggins. What's

2158
01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:10,519
Speaker 3: he doing again?

2159
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:12,719
Speaker 2: Through a story he let you talk about.

2160
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:16,160
Speaker 3: Guys, I've got something in Let's go positive for you. Okay,

2161
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:20,559
Speaker 3: So Pat say Jack. It's gonna start off a little,

2162
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:24,799
Speaker 3: a little rough, Pat say Jack, who's done a tremendous job. Okay,

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Speaker 3: he has announced that he's gonna walk away from Wheel

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Speaker 3: of Fortune after this next season. Okay, next season begins

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Speaker 3: in September, be his forty first, and then the plan

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Speaker 3: is he's going to retire afterward. So there is a

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Speaker 3: man who has thrown his name in the hat to

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Speaker 3: at least fill in while they're looking for the permanent host.

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Speaker 3: Let's see if you recognize this voice here.

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Speaker 2: Check this out. I want to throw my name into

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Speaker 2: a hat. I ain't trying to give up my day job.

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01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:54,240
Speaker 2: I ain't trying to give up my podcast. But I

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01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:56,960
Speaker 2: tell you, if we'll a fortunately call to ask me

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Speaker 2: to host the show, a fuck up the days, I

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01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:03,599
Speaker 2: would not. What do you guys think? I think it's

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Speaker 2: a matchmaking. I'm out of myself.

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Speaker 6: No, I think you could come up with better names,

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01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:16,040
Speaker 6: but if you want shock value, I think it would

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Speaker 6: probably get some get some attention.

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Speaker 2: Could we please have it be Snoop dog Oh have you.

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01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:26,960
Speaker 6: Heard the Snoop Dogg narrations of the Planet Earth videos?

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Speaker 4: I oh yeah, oh oh, absolutely hilarious everything Snoop does.

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01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:37,240
Speaker 4: I bought his cookbooks going by his records. I enjoy

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Speaker 4: his commentary on sports. I love the fact that he

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Speaker 4: was Vine Tone and NHL team Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It was senators of all teams. He's like, what.

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Speaker 6: I mean, imagine Snoop up in Canada just hanging out

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Speaker 6: with the senators.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine?

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine if like, uh, yeah, I know, I

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01:50:55,120 --> 01:50:57,800
Speaker 4: think I think if Snoop showed up and he is

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Speaker 4: just blazed.

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Speaker 2: And what letter is that?

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Speaker 5: My man?

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Speaker 2: You know what? I think You're onto something here, Rich.

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Speaker 6: I love that, Rich, That's the best idea you've had

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Speaker 6: the entire show, maybe of the entire history of us

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Speaker 6: working together.

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Speaker 3: The thing with Pat, say Jack is Pat Sajack is

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01:51:17,200 --> 01:51:20,160
Speaker 3: like the friendly neighbor. Every now and then he'll have

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Speaker 3: his zinger or two years his delivery is friendly neighbor.

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01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:28,360
Speaker 3: That's not Steven A. Smith's delivering but as far as

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01:51:28,400 --> 01:51:34,519
Speaker 3: Snoop Dogg goes, Snoop Dogg is a cool, faded, friendly neighbor,

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Speaker 3: which I would watch. I would be intrigued by that

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Speaker 3: for sure. Now there is a second part to steven

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Speaker 3: A Smith. This is on his podcast, as far as

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01:51:43,080 --> 01:51:45,559
Speaker 3: the Wheel of Fortune thing goes, uh, check this out.

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01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:46,920
Speaker 2: He's got more visions than.

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Speaker 10: A white According to report, she thinks that she's going

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Speaker 10: to be on the way out to do it too.

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01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 10: But that's not a negative. Ven You're synonymous with pats

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Speaker 10: A Jack. It's okay if it were me hosting it.

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01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:57,839
Speaker 10: You know, I like Van a lot, but I wouldn't

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01:51:57,880 --> 01:52:01,280
Speaker 10: mind making good turning those letters Sinni Lathan.

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01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:06,360
Speaker 5: Turning those letters bothered me. I think they'd get your ratings.

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01:52:06,640 --> 01:52:08,519
Speaker 2: I do, they'd have my ratings.

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01:52:09,640 --> 01:52:10,559
Speaker 1: This is getting weird.

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Speaker 4: Now that we're getting weird, No, steven A his commentary recently,

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01:52:15,600 --> 01:52:18,679
Speaker 4: it's gone viral on TikTok, so I'm sure eventually it'll

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Speaker 4: come across your algorithm, Jared.

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01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:23,759
Speaker 6: Everything steven A does goes viral. That's the only reason

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Speaker 6: that I can think of to put him at the

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Speaker 6: host of a game show.

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Speaker 4: He recently went viral for his description of Martha Stewart

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01:52:31,240 --> 01:52:34,880
Speaker 4: on the cover of Sports Illustrated. Oh yeah, I mean

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01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:40,360
Speaker 4: I defy anybody to watch that video and not feel

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01:52:40,400 --> 01:52:44,040
Speaker 4: like like you are being undressed with his words.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 4: It is one of the most uncomfortable minute and ten

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Speaker 4: second videos I have ever watched. I mean, he is staring,

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01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:56,200
Speaker 4: he is staring down the barrel of the camera and

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01:52:56,320 --> 01:52:59,880
Speaker 4: as he's speaking, like the desk is levitating.

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Speaker 2: I'm just like, what are we listening to right now?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean people outside the sports world really know

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01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 6: who Stephen A.

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01:53:06,360 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 1: Smith is, though I don't know.

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01:53:08,040 --> 01:53:11,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good question, some dude, isn't it crazy?

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01:53:11,240 --> 01:53:12,760
Speaker 3: You're right, You're totally right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Snoop is bigger than Steven A.

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Speaker 5: There's Snoop cuts through man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's brick on the soap opera, right, so some

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01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:24,479
Speaker 3: people like the soap So don't you know my choice

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01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:27,960
Speaker 3: for Wheel of Fortune the new host who Bill Belichick?

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01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:33,840
Speaker 3: That's who I want? That's absolutely that would It would

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01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:36,360
Speaker 3: never happen in a million years, but if it did,

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01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:40,880
Speaker 3: it would be just sensational. My question is, I don't

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01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:43,320
Speaker 3: know if he'd be a better Pat Sajak or a

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01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:44,479
Speaker 3: better Van of White.

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Speaker 6: I'm seriously about lumbering around, changing words, just.

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Speaker 3: The fcial expressions and oh it'd be great. The best

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01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:56,519
Speaker 3: part would be him at the end revealing what prize

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01:53:56,520 --> 01:54:00,280
Speaker 3: they would have won if they answered the final laughing wreck.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, thank you.

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Speaker 4: It was a range rover. Join us next week. We're

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Speaker 4: on to Cincinnati, all right. He's Richard Berger, Penn State

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Speaker 4: All American, Jared Smith with us FSR betting analyst.

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Speaker 3: I'm Brian No Coming up next. We'll get you some

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01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:25,880
Speaker 3: gambling selections here. We'll try to make you some money.

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Speaker 3: And speaking of money, man, this had a heavy price tag.

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Speaker 3: We'll share some details with you as well. It is

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Saturday right here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 11: Dessia throws swing grab Born in the right field of

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Speaker 11: base hit coming into score. MACHOs Trufford racing around second,

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Speaker 11: digging for third. He's in there as Bets comes up

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Speaker 11: with the ball and throws into second. Austin Slater did

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Speaker 11: not get into this game until the eighth inning as

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Speaker 11: a pinch hitter, and he is I had a huge

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Speaker 11: effect in the game. He's had three hits in three

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Speaker 11: and match.

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Speaker 3: Dodgers last night and shout out to Iowa. Sam My goodness,

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you Poxshell, the MVP of the show. I

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Speaker 3: thought that worked seamlessly with some slayer in the background.

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Speaker 6: Ah well just in a slayer like going to sleep though,

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01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:52,600
Speaker 6: that's like your bedtime.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a good point, soothing to me.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 2: Also, Brandon truffa trust producer with us this morning. Great jobs.

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Speaker 3: Nick Cope, in spite of his pathetic attempts to prop

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01:56:06,040 --> 01:56:09,080
Speaker 3: up this sad Oakland A's fan base, did a tremendous job.

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Speaker 3: Tremendous job is you know one little downside? That's okay,

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Speaker 3: I get it. Top of the hour up on Game

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Speaker 3: LaVar Arrington TJ. Hushman's out of Flaxicope Burus. Make sure

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Speaker 3: you keep it lock right here on Fox Sports Radio,

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01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:26,280
Speaker 3: by the way, before our gambling picks for today. In

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01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:29,680
Speaker 3: the weekend, I saw this story with the Kansas City Chiefs,

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01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:33,640
Speaker 3: so they just received their Super Bowl rings after beating

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01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:39,200
Speaker 3: the Eagles. Six hundred and thirteen diamonds involved.

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01:56:38,760 --> 01:56:39,680
Speaker 2: In these bad boys.

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01:56:40,360 --> 01:56:43,800
Speaker 3: And I don't know about you guys, but some of

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01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:47,040
Speaker 3: this stuff, I'm cool with six thirteen, that's fine. But

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01:56:47,160 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 3: they broke it down like what each of the diamonds represents.

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01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:55,040
Speaker 3: Oh boy, and yeah, rich, it's going down a dark

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01:56:55,200 --> 01:56:57,160
Speaker 3: road right here. Some of this stuff is just like,

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01:56:57,280 --> 01:56:59,840
Speaker 3: are you serious? This is my favorite? You tell me

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01:56:59,840 --> 01:57:03,000
Speaker 3: if this is a reach or not. A red backdrop

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01:57:03,400 --> 01:57:08,600
Speaker 3: with nineteen rubies and thirty eight diamonds that represents the

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01:57:08,760 --> 01:57:12,640
Speaker 3: chief scoring thirty eight points against the Eagles in the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl, which was also the fifty seventh Super Bowl,

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Speaker 3: so you have to add nineteen and thirty eight.

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01:57:21,280 --> 01:57:29,000
Speaker 2: It gets a fifty. It's so bad. Oh, it's so bad.

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01:57:30,400 --> 01:57:30,919
Speaker 7: The breakdown.

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01:57:30,960 --> 01:57:33,520
Speaker 3: I think that I'd make an exception if they add

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01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:37,800
Speaker 3: one diamond for the garbage defensive holding penalty that helped

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01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:39,600
Speaker 3: them win the game against the Eagle.

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Speaker 1: Or a yellow yellow diamond.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, it's a yellow diamond right in the middle

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01:57:45,280 --> 01:57:50,200
Speaker 12: for the flag on the Cincinnati defenders who hit Mahomes

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01:57:50,280 --> 01:57:53,520
Speaker 12: out of the bounds to save their season in the postseason.

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01:57:53,600 --> 01:57:54,000
Speaker 1: There you go.

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01:57:54,240 --> 01:57:56,520
Speaker 2: We need two yellow diamonds.

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Speaker 1: To represence this Super Bowl ring to the referee crew.

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Speaker 3: Right, two key penalties, the difference of course being the

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01:58:02,200 --> 01:58:07,000
Speaker 3: Bengals penalty being legitimate, the Eagles penalty not so Loo.

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01:58:07,640 --> 01:58:10,320
Speaker 1: No, I really open up a can's right there?

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Speaker 5: That's questionable. Takes this morning from.

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Speaker 4: All Right Gambling Round Table over here, Jared, what do

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Speaker 4: you think in today slash this weekend?

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Speaker 1: How about some Nerfy action? Right?

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01:58:22,680 --> 01:58:27,800
Speaker 6: We got some Cincinnati Houston Nerfy action. Hunter Green is

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Speaker 6: my favorite, one of my favorite Nerfy pitchers in baseball.

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Speaker 6: No run first inning, by the way, for those that

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01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:35,080
Speaker 6: like to dabble, Brandon Black pitching for Houston. And how

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01:58:35,120 --> 01:58:37,720
Speaker 6: about a yes run first inning. We played both sides

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01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:41,440
Speaker 6: of this market, Colorado, Atlanta. The Atlanta Braves are one

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01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:44,440
Speaker 6: of the hottest offenses in baseball, and they basically at

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01:58:44,480 --> 01:58:46,520
Speaker 6: home about fifty percent of the time. They score a

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01:58:46,600 --> 01:58:49,800
Speaker 6: run on the first inning, Rockies braves your feet, Red's

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01:58:49,960 --> 01:58:51,160
Speaker 6: astros nerfy.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna go with the San Diego Padres. I've

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01:58:55,360 --> 01:58:57,840
Speaker 4: been riding a hot streak with the total runs in

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01:58:57,920 --> 01:59:04,240
Speaker 4: these games and this game today on against the race. Sorry,

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01:59:04,480 --> 01:59:07,800
Speaker 4: we got a Snell on the mound who's been stingy lately.

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01:59:07,880 --> 01:59:10,840
Speaker 4: If you've been following Blake Snell this year, he's been

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01:59:11,320 --> 01:59:14,000
Speaker 4: on fuego. He had a little bit of an ankle

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01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:17,200
Speaker 4: or he got a comebacker to the mound to hit

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01:59:17,320 --> 01:59:21,520
Speaker 4: him last outing, but everybody said he's all clear medically.

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01:59:22,320 --> 01:59:26,320
Speaker 4: So the Padres, who have a hard time posting runs,

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01:59:26,680 --> 01:59:29,520
Speaker 4: the totals at eight and a half, I'm taking an under.

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01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:31,520
Speaker 4: I think Snell works like it, and I think the

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01:59:31,600 --> 01:59:36,160
Speaker 4: Padres bats don't. I hate to do this, I really do.

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01:59:36,640 --> 01:59:40,280
Speaker 4: I hate to kick my team while they're down. I

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01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:43,320
Speaker 4: love the Saint Louis Cardinals. I feel sick to my stomach.

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01:59:43,480 --> 01:59:46,480
Speaker 4: This is on Father's Day weekend. Shout out to my dad.

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01:59:47,360 --> 01:59:51,120
Speaker 4: The Cardinals are awful right now. They can't get out

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01:59:51,120 --> 01:59:53,920
Speaker 4: of their own way. I'm gonna take the Mets today

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01:59:54,360 --> 01:59:57,560
Speaker 4: over four and a half runs. My guy, Adam Wainwright

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01:59:57,840 --> 02:00:01,920
Speaker 4: is going up against the Mets. But this is just

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Speaker 4: a Cardinals train wreck right now. So I got the

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02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:07,760
Speaker 4: met scoring at least five runs today.

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Speaker 1: I like it. You with me on that?

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Speaker 6: How about Adam Wainwright over his earned run prop today

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02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:16,640
Speaker 6: which is usually two and a half, he is just again, yeah,

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Speaker 6: really really having a rough year.

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Speaker 1: That's rough, rough, rough there, but rough year for waynewright

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Speaker 4: Hey, you know bright Side Steven a maybe on Wheel

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Speaker 4: of Fortune by Avowal