1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:00,240 Speaker 1: Sorry. 2 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,559 Speaker 2: We're keeping an eye on Coca Cola this morning because 3 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:06,039 Speaker 2: the soft beverage giant raised its outlook thanks to continued 4 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: strong sales. Stop a little bit lower right now because 5 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 2: that boost overshadowed by an unexpected decline in unit case 6 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: volume in the third quarter. Joining us now to unpack 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 2: is John Murphy. He is the CFO of Coca Cola, 8 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 2: and I'm so excited to talk about this. Of course, 9 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: we have such a focus on the economy right now, 10 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: and I think this is a really interesting sign of 11 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: the time. So we're going to talk about price, We're 12 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: going to talk about volume. Let's start with volume. Because 13 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 2: your total unit case volume down about one percent in 14 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 2: the quarter. What levers do you have to pull? How 15 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 2: do you boost volume at this juncture. 16 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 3: So we did have a decline in the quarter, but 17 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 3: i'd highlight the decline was primarily driven by some anomalous 18 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: factors in July. Sequentially, we improved through the quarter, and 19 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 3: in this particular quarter, thanks to our developed economies, we 20 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 3: come out towards the end of the quarter in pretty 21 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 3: good shape. And as we go forward, the name of 22 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 3: the game is to get back to the more balanced 23 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 3: growth equation that we've enjoyed in the last few years, 24 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 3: and that is getting the developing emerging economies back to 25 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 3: where they had been. And we expect to see that 26 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: happening throughout the next six to nine months and definitely want. 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 2: To get to the international view. But let's talk a 28 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: little bit about pricing here. Because your price mix, this 29 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: is the prices that you charge across a range of 30 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 2: your products. It increased ten percent in the quarter, and 31 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: I found that really interesting because not a lot of 32 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: companies have pricing power left at this point, but how 33 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 2: much more can your consumers handle when it comes to 34 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 2: raising prices again. 35 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: So that price mix number is, for sure, it's an 36 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: interesting headline number. When you get underneath it, there's three factors. 37 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: You've got your normal pricing, but three to four percent 38 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: we have pricing that comes from some of our hyperinflationary 39 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 3: environments and other four percent or so. And then in 40 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 3: this particular quarter, we've got the benefits from the mixed 41 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 3: impact of our more profitable markets performing better. So as 42 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: we look to the next phase of the of the 43 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 3: journey ahead, you know, we see pricing moderating more in 44 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 3: line with the CPI headlines Here in the United States 45 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: and typically around the world. That's our approach. Also, we're 46 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 3: also investing heavily in our brands to sustain their their 47 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 3: relevance and through our various revenue growth strategies, offering both 48 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: affordability and premium options to consumers for the occasions that 49 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 3: they are seeking. 50 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: I wonder about your calorie less drinks and how much 51 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: the impact of we go v and ozepik has had 52 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: on the product mix. Are you selling more, you know, 53 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: just playing water or flavored selters and less of the 54 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: more sugary drinks. 55 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 3: Well, we've had a for the last number of years, 56 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 3: We've seen trends towards lower zero calorie products across the 57 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 3: portfolio here in the US and elsewhere. We're not seeing 58 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 3: a material impact yet in our data on ozepic and 59 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 3: similar types of medications. So our goal is to follow 60 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 3: the consumer. We have a terrific innovation pipeline. We continue 61 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 3: to invest. I think ahead of the curve on the 62 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: lower zero calorie because around the world that's what consumers 63 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: are looking more forum We're going to be there to 64 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 3: provide them. 65 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 4: John, I want to double down on Katie's earlier question 66 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 4: a little bit here because it looks like that's what 67 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 4: investors are really latching onto because on first plush for 68 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 4: a company, you would think that being able to raise 69 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 4: prices as you have despite everyone else not being able 70 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 4: to that, that would be a good thing. But the 71 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 4: worries here rely around and customers buying more ultimately, So 72 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 4: if you project out through the next year, how do 73 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 4: you expect consumers to behave under this higher price scenario. 74 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 3: So at the highest level, we see continued consumer spending 75 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: at the levels that we're seeing at the moment and 76 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: growing pretty much in line with GDP expectations, which low 77 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 3: single digit at the global level. I think what's really important, though, 78 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 3: is to get underneath that, to understand your consumer customer 79 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 3: base at a much more granular level, and then to 80 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: be able to apply the appropriate solutions that we have 81 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 3: in our portfolio, offering affordability in whe where that's important. 82 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 3: There's a lower income segment in the United States, for example, 83 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 3: we're offering at one and a quarter liter packages growing 84 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: at double digit rates. We have premium solutions to for 85 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 3: the occasions for that work. So I think the name 86 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: of the game is going to be adapting to those 87 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 3: more granular segments. But at the highest level. We see 88 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 3: continued resilience and continued growth in consumer spending around the world. 89 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 2: And John, I want to talk about the competitive landscape 90 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 2: and potential m and A coming from Coca Cola because 91 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: you think about this craze around healthier sodas, you think 92 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: of poppy, you think of Ollipop for example. Would Coca 93 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: Cola be open to buying one of those brands, partnering 94 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 2: with one of those brands? What might that look like. 95 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're always We're always open to new opportunities that 96 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 3: are out there. But right now, we have a portfolio 97 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: of twenty eight billion dollar brands that we think represents 98 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: a tremendous amount of headroom for us over the next 99 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 3: couple of years. So our primary focus today is to 100 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: continue to invest and grow the brands that we own. 101 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 3: And you you always have to stay opportunistic. You always 102 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 3: have to keep your eyes open, and if something more 103 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 3: attractive than what we currently have comes along, we'll be 104 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: open to look at it. 105 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: I wonder about the geopolitical risks out there, John, You know, 106 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: we focus so much on interest rates and inflation, the 107 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: labor market, and we cover you know, the war in 108 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 1: Ukraine and the war in the Middle East as general news, 109 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: but we don't hear much about them from business leaders. 110 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: Until last night we heard from a private equity company 111 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,559 Speaker 1: that they are concerned more about geopolitics than anything else. 112 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: Do you see any effect of that on your business? 113 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: Is it significant? 114 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 3: Well, you know, operating in over two hundred countries around 115 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 3: the world, it would be hard to not have an 116 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: implied effect from what's happening in the geopolitical world. And 117 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: I think, as you know, as James and I have highled, 118 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 3: you know, we have an old weather approach to not 119 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 3: just the geopolitical pieces, but the macro economics as well, 120 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 3: and I think the name of the game is to 121 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: is to stay very close to what's coming and to 122 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 3: be in a position with our bottling partners around the 123 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: world to adapt. So yes, you know, if you look 124 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: at the situation the Ukraine, yes, it had an impact 125 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: on the way we go to market and the markets 126 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 3: we're in. But with our partners, we adapt and we 127 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: continue to see the global portfolio being the best one 128 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: for us to be in. And John quickly before. 129 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: We let you go, I am really curious about how 130 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: you're thinking about marketing at this juncture of course we 131 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: have that long discussion about price to volume, how much 132 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: when it comes to your resources are you dedicating to 133 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: marketing spend. 134 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 3: So marketing is at the core of our ability to 135 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: create value for both our consumers and for ourselves. And 136 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 3: one of the lessons we've learned through COVID, post COVID 137 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 3: and as we go into next year is to is 138 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: to stay consistent, say, investing behind your brands. I think 139 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 3: what's important though, is to understand the mix of the 140 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 3: investments that you make. We're particularly keen to ensure on 141 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 3: the marketing front that we're leveraging new technologies, we're levering 142 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: new capabilities to stay close to consumers in the digital world, 143 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: for example, and so it's a hugely important piece of 144 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 3: our growth equation and will be for I think forever. Actually, John, 145 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 3: great to get some time with you. 146 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: Really appreciated John Murphy, their CFO at Coca Cola.