1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Everybody. Welcome to shop. Talk number seventy three, Welcome in 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: the shop. 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: We decided to do a week this time. 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 3: It's a week. 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: It's a week bell it's rainy out, so sad today, 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: it's just kind of yeah, it's just kind of a 7 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: chill day. 8 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 3: How are you. 9 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 4: I'm well, Actually a cool story. Okay, actually a couple 10 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 4: of cool stories. I don't know why I'm going here. 11 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 4: You should stop asking me that question. Then I got 12 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 4: to come up with like random things to say out 13 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 4: at the top of my head. 14 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 3: Well, you have two apparently, Okay. 15 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 2: So there was like a dreamer. 16 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 4: This was a tornado at like end of March this year, 17 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 4: early April, and it completely destroyed a bunch of places 18 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 4: in Mississippi, including this Bowl Bottom Farms. 19 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: It's like cool pumpkin patch. So anyway, they completely. 20 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 4: Rebuilt it, and I helped them one of the days, 21 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 4: so they're now fully built back up, and took the 22 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 4: kids there on Saturday. 23 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: That's awesome. 24 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good enough story 25 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: worth keeping in here. 26 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 4: But and then we had a sure talk out. We 27 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 4: had a church pickleball with like one hundred people on 28 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 4: Saturday night, pickleball. Yeah, pickleball and potluck with one hundred people. 29 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 3: Actually that sounds fun. 30 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: It is fun. 31 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 3: I you know, I'd like to play pickleball with you. 32 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 3: You're playing tennis forever. 33 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, never once played pickleball, but everybody says that it's 34 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: a blast. 35 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 3: It's it's tennis, but ping pong or something. 36 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 4: You just kind of think it's for commoners. Like, I'm 37 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 4: not dealing with this. It's just not. 38 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 3: Just having that time to mess with it because I've 39 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 3: been roped into doing this. 40 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 2: Podcast and coaching middle college. 41 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: And coaching high school and running a business and redoing 42 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: our house and I'm losing my mind. So that's it, 43 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: all right, Shop Talk number thirty three. 44 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: I think your body's caught up on us. 45 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 2: For three seventy three. You said thirty three. 46 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 3: Seventy three, Yeah, Shop Talk number seventy three. 47 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: So the Children's Crusade when the Youth of Birmingham marchs 48 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: for justice. It's from the History Channel and Alex says, 49 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: this is uh thought provoking stuff. So we're going to 50 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: talk about the Children's Crusade when the Youth of Birmingham 51 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: March for justice on Shop Talk number seventy three. Right, 52 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: after these brief messages from our general sponsors, everybody, welcome 53 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: back to the shop Shop Talk number seventy three. 54 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: We have discussed pickleball. It's very important today. 55 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 2: Fastest grounds born in America. 56 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 3: Apparently I need to play. 57 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: I want to play, you know, just at a time 58 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: because of this podcast. So the Children's Crusade, when the 59 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 1: youth of Birmingham marched for justice from the History Channel. 60 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: Toward the end of April nineteen sixty three, doctor Martin 61 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: Luther King Junior and fellow leaders in the civil rights 62 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: movement faced a grim reality in Birmingham. With the menished 63 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: support and fewer volunteers, their campaigned to end segregationist policies 64 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 1: were teetering on failure. That's interesting. I didn't even know that. 65 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:15,639 Speaker 1: I't either, But when an orthodox plan to recruit black 66 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: children to march was implemented, the movement reversed itself, reinvigorating 67 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,839 Speaker 1: the fight for racial equality and what become name as 68 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: the Children's Crusade. King had traveled to Birmingham in the 69 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: spring of nineteen sixty three along with Southern Christian Leadership 70 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: Conference co founder Reverend Ralph Abernathy, hoping to shore up 71 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: resistance against segregation and state Their partnered with the Alabama 72 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: Christian Movement for Human Rights, a local civil rights organization 73 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: led by Fred Shuttlesworth, a prominent minister and activist, But 74 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: the Alabama movement was fresh off a failed attempt to 75 00:03:55,160 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: end segregation in Albany, Georgia. Overall, fewer people were attending meeting, 76 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: sit ins, and marches. After King was arrested and confined 77 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: to a jail cell, where he wrote his famous work 78 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: Letter from a Birmingham jail, he knew, along with other 79 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: activists that a new strategy was essential if the campaign 80 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: were to succeed. The number of adults who were willing 81 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: to volunteer to get arrested had steadily dwindled those last 82 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: two weeks of April, and it looked like the movement 83 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: was about to fall apart, says Glenn Escue, a history 84 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: professor at Georgia State University and the author of the 85 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven book. But for Birmingham, the local and 86 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: national movement in the civil rights struggle, you know, I 87 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: guess that makes sense. I mean, who wants to volunteer 88 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: to go get arrested, which is basically what they were 89 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: asking folks to. 90 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 2: Do yeah, and then have no income and you're screwed. 91 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: And possibly also in Alabama, these folks probably also getting 92 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: to beat to death to James Bevell, a member of 93 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: the SCLC, came up with an idea to include school 94 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: aged children in protests to help desegregate Birmingham. The strategy 95 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: involved recruiting popular teenagers from black high schools, such as 96 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks and cheerleaders, who could influence their classmates to 97 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: attend meetings with them at black churches in Birmingham to 98 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: learn more about the non violent movement. There was also 99 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: an economic reason to have children participate, since adults risks 100 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: being fired from their jobs for missing work and protesting. 101 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: Janice Kelsey was fifteen which she attended a first meeting 102 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: for the children's Crusade. I knew what segregation was in separation, 103 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: but I didn't understand the extent or the level of 104 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: the inequities in that separation, recalls Kelsey, a Birmingham nave 105 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: who wrote about her experience in the movement in twenty 106 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: seventeen memoir I woke up with my mind on freedom. 107 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: Bebell post questions the students who discovered that hand me 108 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: down books and football helmets were not what white students used, 109 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: nor was there just one typewriter in the entire school 110 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: like black students side, but rooms with typewriters at the 111 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 1: white schools, said Kelsey. Things like that became personal to me, 112 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: and I decided I wanted to do something about it. King, 113 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: along with other activists and members in the black community, 114 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: were adamantly opposed to involving children in marches because of 115 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: the threats to violence from white mobs as well as 116 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: from policemen led by bull Connor. Eugene bull Connor, the 117 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: Commissioner of Public Safety in Birmingham, notorious for his racist policies. Bevell, undeterred, 118 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: told the children to gather at sixteenth Street Baptist Church 119 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: on May second, nineteen sixty three. More than one thousand 120 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: students skip school to participate in the protest. The youth, 121 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: arranging ages seven to eighteen, held picket signs and marched 122 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: in groups of ten to fifty, singing freedom songs. We 123 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: were told what to expect, says Kelsey. We even saw 124 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,559 Speaker 1: some film strips of people who had sat at lunch 125 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: counters and were spit on and pushed and all that. 126 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: We were told that if you decide to participate, that 127 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: this is a non violent movement, so you can't fight back. 128 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: The demonstrators had several destinations. Some went to city Hall, 129 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: others went to lunch counters or downtown shopping district. They 130 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: marched daily for almost a week. It was well thought out, 131 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: says Vicki Crawford, the director of Morehouse College Martin Luther 132 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: King Junior Collection. It was not just a bunch of 133 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: people calling up to meet downtown. This was a mobilization, 134 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: an organization following King's Six Steps of nonviolence to bring 135 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: about social change. As the children bravely took to the streets, 136 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: the Birmingham police were waiting to rest them, putting them 137 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: in paddy wagons and school buses. Kelsey said she was 138 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,239 Speaker 1: arrested on her first day marching and remained in jail 139 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: for four days. The site of young people peacefully protesting 140 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:59,239 Speaker 1: reinvigorated the Birmingham movement, and throngs of people started attending 141 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: meetings again and joining the demonstrations. King changed his mind 142 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: as well about the effectiveness of children's crusades. Although the 143 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: police were mostly restrained the first day, that did not continue. 144 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: Law enforcement brought out water hoses and police dogs. Television 145 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 1: crews and newspapers filmed the young demonstrators getting arrested and 146 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: hosed down by the Birmingham police, causing national outrage. More 147 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: than two thousand children were reportedly arrested during the day's 148 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: long protest. They had locked up as many people as 149 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: they could possibly lock up, and they couldn't control it anymore, 150 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: and that's what broke the back of segregation, says Escue 151 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: a civil order collapse because they're warn't enough police. When 152 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: influential white businessmen and city officials saw the business district 153 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: swarming with demonstrators. In addition to President John F. Kennedy 154 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 1: demanding a resolution and sending Assistant Attorney General Burke Marshall 155 00:08:55,240 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: to Birmingham to facilitate negotiations, whites city leaders called a 156 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 1: meeting with King. An agreement was made to desegregate lunch counters, 157 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: businesses and restrooms and improve hiring opportunities for black people 158 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: in Birmingham. I think we serve as a catalyst for change, 159 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: said Kelsey. Improvements hardly happened overnight in Birmingham. In September 160 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three, the ku Klux lan bombed the sixth 161 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 1: Strength Street Baptist Church, killing four black girls. Yet the 162 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: civil rights movement kept up the momentum, and the following 163 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: year President Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act in nineteen 164 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: sixty four. There's a story I didn't know, and I 165 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: bet most hearing didn't, that the civil rights movement almost 166 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: collapsed but for a bunch of children. And if you 167 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: don't think an army of normal folks can make change, 168 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: all you had to do is hear that story. 169 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: An army of normal teenage protesters. 170 00:09:55,520 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: No, that's what it was, an army of normal teenage protesters. 171 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 3: You know. 172 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: The other thing is, I bet even racist folks got 173 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: a lump in their throat when they saw seven and 174 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: eight nine year old children being water cannon and and 175 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 1: and chased up by dogs and stuff. I mean, as 176 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: dollar as it is for any age of human being 177 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: to be put under that kind of thing. You know, 178 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: those kids probably woke up a consciousness that I'd not 179 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: been awakened yet. 180 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great point. 181 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 3: It makes only sense that it would. 182 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 4: So how I discovered this story here, I'll show you 183 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 4: on the map. I went to the Birmingham Civil Rights Museum, which, 184 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 4: if you haven't bet is awesome. So I probably learned 185 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 4: like five or ten things I had never heard street. 186 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's literally right across, right across from the 187 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: sixteenth Street Baptist Church where the bombing. 188 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 4: Is literally right across. Wow, in emissions like five or 189 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 4: ten bucks. I mean, everybody should go if they get 190 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 4: a chance. And so they literally started that crusade, a 191 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 4: lot of them at the church and then they walked 192 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 4: over to the park. In the park is where a 193 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 4: lot of them got water hosts. 194 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 3: That's it. And there's light there. Yeah. 195 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 4: And they have like really powerful pictures you know, of 196 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 4: the crusade at the. 197 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: Civil Rights Museum. You're looking at these pictures that's happening. 198 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: It is literally across literally out the windows of these two. 199 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. And they have like memorials to all this in 200 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 3: the park too. 201 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: Okay, anybody visiting Birmingham, Alex just gave you something to do. 202 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 3: This is what's it called the Birmingham Civil Rights Rights Museum. 203 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: That's great. 204 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: That's really cool, amazing story, cool piece of history, and 205 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: for our purposes, a reminder that an army normal folks 206 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: really is the answer. Always hasn't always will work, and 207 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 1: in this case it was in an army of normal 208 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: teenage protesters. 209 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 3: That maybe saved the civil rights movement and. 210 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: Encourage the adults and encourage the adults actually, And the 211 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: other thing is this. 212 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 3: You know, if you're an adult. 213 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: And you're like, I'm not going out there, and then 214 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: you watch a fifteen year old get beat water ros, 215 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: then you're like, Okay, I gotta go out there. I 216 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: can't let this happen to our kids. So that probably 217 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: motivated a bunch of adults to get reinvigorated in that cause. 218 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 4: Also, safety in numbers is a powerful thing. You gather 219 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 4: two thousand people like this. 220 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, they overwhelmed the police department. Yeah. 221 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 2: Actually there's a really cool story of that. 222 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 3: And they never fought back. They just sat there and 223 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: took it. 224 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, a cool example. Moving to another shop, talk on this. 225 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 4: Have you heard of when Poe John Paul went back 226 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 4: to Poland? So Poland is you know, controlled by the 227 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 4: Soviet Union. You know, at this point, he's the first 228 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 4: Polish pope in history. Every other popa been Italian. He 229 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 4: goes back there and there's like three million people in 230 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 4: Victory Square and I think it was a warsaw. 231 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, you think about it. It's just they were overwhelmed 232 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 3: and I know that story. 233 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's an amazing And he has this line too, 234 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 4: there's like no domain in which God shall not enter. 235 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 4: Like he didn't even like directly address the Soviets, but 236 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 4: you put a line out there like this, and it's 237 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 4: just like marshaling and imagine you're one of these people 238 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 4: in three million in the crowd, like I'm not alone. 239 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: We can do this together. 240 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: And just a big old that's a literal army of 241 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: normal folks. Yeah, basically started the disintegration of the Soviet Yeah. 242 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 3: Very cool, all right, everybody. 243 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: That's Shop Talk number seventy three, The Children's Crusade When 244 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: the youth of Birmingham marched for justice, And I'm going 245 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: to give it a subtitle and potentially save the Civil 246 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: rights movement. Army of normal teenagers making a difference. It 247 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: still stands today. If you like this episode, would you 248 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: please share it with friends and on Social rate? 249 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,840 Speaker 4: Who else is bringing you history lessons like this? Right, 250 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 4: it's a great one to share. 251 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: It's a great one to share. It's awesome, that's right. 252 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: This is an army of normal history people or something. 253 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: Share it on Social rate and review it, write me 254 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: anytime at Bill at normal folks dot us. 255 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 3: Please give us ideas for. 256 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: Shop Talk, and if you know of anybody doing something 257 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: extraordinary in your corner of the world to make it 258 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: a better place, let us know about them. We're always 259 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: looking for interesting ideas of people to highlight on an 260 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: army Normal Folks. With that, thanks for joining us on 261 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: shop Talk number seventy three. 262 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 3: Do what you can. We'll see you next week.