WEBVTT - 20 Ridiculous Questions: Historical Flex Edition 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:03.800 Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:07.160 Saren, Elizabeth Ben, Noel Max. Do you know what's ridiculous? 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:11.160 Six hosts, six hosts in a tiny. 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:13.560 Gonna be some cross talk, y'all, It's gonna be some crosstalk. 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:14.480 We're doing our best. 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:16.360 Wait wait, no, no, are we cross talking? 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:16.680 No? 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:17.479 No, no, just barely. 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:19.680 We're not cross talking at all? 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:20.600 Are you? 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:21.599 Are you being serious? 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:26.360 Yes, well, there's a it's a it's a it's a conversation, 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:30.240 and it's conversation. Uh, Noel Max, that that we might 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:33.160 be interrupting. I believe producer Dave is setting up a thing. 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:35.599 It's true. Carry on, sir Dave, were you setting. 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:35.760 Up a thing? 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:37.600 Oh? Sorry? Are you guys done? 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:39.159 It's back to you. 0:00:41.159 --> 0:00:42.800 And that's the what we keep talking. I keep talking over. 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:45.440 I'm gonna tell you what is ridiculous. Six hosts in 0:00:45.479 --> 0:00:47.680 a tiny little box going toe to toe in an 0:00:47.680 --> 0:01:11.880 attempt to determine which show reigns supreme. This is not 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:15.520 ridiculous Crime. It still may be a podcast about absurd 0:01:15.520 --> 0:01:18.440 and outrageous capers, heys and cons. We'll just have to see. 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:22.360 This is also not ridiculous history. Welcome everyone, what we 0:01:22.440 --> 0:01:25.280 have here is something extra special, as the presence of 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:28.120 all these voices will attest. This is a little something 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:31.760 we cooked up called twenty Ridiculous Questions. It's kind of 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.000 I don't know, Ben, if you will allow me, it's 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:37.399 the Ridiculous Beast with two backs, the history back and 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:41.360 the crime back. I don't know how that was. 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:46.440 Some sort of hybrid of all that that's also somehow 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:47.120 really sticky. 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:50.880 Before I continue, let's do introductions. So from Team Ridiculous 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:54.800 History we have Ben Bolan, Noel Brown and Max Williams. 0:01:55.120 --> 0:01:55.840 Welcome one and all. 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:56.960 Thank you. 0:01:57.520 --> 0:01:59.480 How are we all doing today? Any any want to 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:01.080 give any speed, any last words. 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:05.520 I'm a big fan of Ridiculous Crime and want to 0:02:05.600 --> 0:02:09.480 shout out that show in particular, which may be somewhat redundant, 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:13.799 but I'm not backing down from it, big fan, all right. 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:16.640 And from Team Ridiculous Crime we have Zaren Burnett, Elizabeth 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:18.480 Dutton and me KG. 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:23.560 Dave Houston. Hello, what's the what's the KG? Dave? 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:27.520 Oh? That's uh what Kyle gas from TENACIOUSD. He always 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:28.399 says me, KG. 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:31.680 It's me KG sucking up on them toes. 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:35.799 That's you got it doing? Some sea push boy Friend, 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:41.240 it sucks toes. Finally, here's the twenty twenty four now Friends. 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:44.280 As far as the game, the game Friends. 0:02:44.080 --> 0:02:49.560 Is Pistols at Dawn, well Ben Ben wanted pistols at dawn. 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:54.600 Zaren wanted calculating pie to the most decimal places. That's right, No, 0:02:54.680 --> 0:02:56.640 I think you wanted Bakara. I don't even know what 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:56.960 that is. 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:01.160 I don't know either. You guys know how to play Mancala, 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:01.680 that's the one. 0:03:02.320 --> 0:03:03.200 I love that one. 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:05.840 Yeah, yeah, I used to play strip Mancoa. 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:07.320 I don't. 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:09.359 It's one of those games where I don't fully understand 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:12.160 the rules. I just kind of somehow, I'm accidentally good 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:12.400 at it. 0:03:13.919 --> 0:03:16.920 Zeron, I knew that was you man, Yeah right A 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:17.679 while lit a while. 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:18.040 Yeah. 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.840 So out of all these wonderful suggestions, we decided on 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:25.600 the game of twenty questions. More specifically, this is going 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:29.600 to be a game of twenty questions about historical flexes. Now, 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:32.400 keep me honest here. A historical flex is when someone 0:03:32.440 --> 0:03:35.000 makes like a zag instead of a zig, some kind 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:38.400 of a bold move, something that wasn't required in their position, 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:41.000 and that maybe it brought on consequences. Is that accurate? 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:45.880 Or perhaps an absurdly ostentatious display of disgusting wealth. 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:51.280 You know yeah, yeah, for instance, like when uh, when 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:55.880 you are so wealthy that you trap you go on 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.840 a road trip and you break the economy of countries 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:00.320 while you're traveling. 0:04:00.440 --> 0:04:01.920 Right Monteusas style. 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:05.240 Yes, yes, sir, Yeah see cloud outless moments. 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:06.520 We've actually done this. 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:10.240 Uh, a different version of this with Miles and Jack 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:13.080 from the Daily Zeit guys and Jack brought I think 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:15.960 one of my favorite historical flexes, which is the little 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:20.200 known fact that Charles Darwin ate every animal. 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:23.320 That he studied and documented. 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:25.640 That's disgusting. 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:31.960 Yeah, a flex may be not necessarily imbued with some 0:04:32.040 --> 0:04:35.599 kind of absolute moral right or wrong right. 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:40.839 You know, ye exactly God. 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:44.440 Also, another fun note about Charles Darwin is when he 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:47.279 discovered the Glopagos tortoise, he looked at it and said, 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:48.240 I'm going to try to ride one. 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:52.320 Yeah, I'm going to write it. Then I'm going to 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:52.640 eat it. 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:53.240 Yeah. 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:57.279 Darwin also a big foot fetish guy, little little known. 0:04:58.680 --> 0:04:59.040 His day. 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:04.479 Yeah, real Maverick, anyone here a big twenty questions player anyway, 0:05:04.600 --> 0:05:06.400 Like got some tony question skills built up? 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:08.320 Oh, I play it on my phone against friends. 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:12.600 Yes, I only vaguely understand the concepts. I've never participated, 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:15.159 so I'm looking forward to hopefully getting to see you 0:05:15.160 --> 0:05:17.320 guys do it right before I screw it up. 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:21.960 Most of my friends President Company excluded, are incredibly sketchy, 0:05:22.080 --> 0:05:27.360 so every conversation is a bit like twenty questions. Well. 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:29.680 As far as where the game comes from, there's some 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:32.640 dispute as to where it originated, but the oldest reference 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:35.039 seems to be in eighteen twenty two, which was when 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:40.159 a Scottish teacher named William Fordyce Mavor Mavor Mavor who 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.280 knows who cares, offered it up as a way to 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:46.839 pass the time before TV and electricity and readily available 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:48.280 recreational drugs. 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:52.640 So for Dice like a street name because he carried 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:54.040 around for Dice in his pocket. 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:58.840 It was like his ancestors street name. He got normalized 0:05:58.880 --> 0:05:59.680 into a middle name. 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:01.559 An Yeah, okay, fair enough. 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.000 So then you fast forward like twenty years later it 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.000 shows up in the US, and then it took off 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.719 like wildfire. It even became a very popular quiz show 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:12.440 in nineteen forty nine. Unfortunately, so none of you can cheat. 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:15.719 Most of the episodes were lost when the studios wipe 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:17.560 the tape to use it again for something else, which 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:21.400 is outrageous, right, Like, so many beautiful live recordings have 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:22.240 just been lost this. 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:24.520 Way, so many questions. 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.760 Was this the era of the Great Quiz Show scandals 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.480 where they were all like fixed earlier? 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:35.360 Little Yeah, yeah, but that one was like forty nine 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:38.880 to mid fifties essentially, so probably yeah, gets right in there. 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:41.560 I wonder if A. J. Jacobs is a fan of 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:41.960 this game. 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.760 I'm sure yeah, he probably has a book about it. 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:49.880 Yeah, probably way better than anything you would write. 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.839 Dave, Do we have like rules regulations for this or 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:55.080 is this just the Wild West? 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:58.320 I am glad you asked that. Before we can rumble, 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:01.960 let's set some ground rules, all right, So the teams 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.520 are pretty clear, right, This is head to head, ridiculous 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:08.880 crime versus the ogs, the goats, ridiculous history, and score 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:12.120 will be kept just between those two entities. So ridiculous 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.960 crime versus ridiculous history. Each of us will take a 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:17.760 turn doing what we call being the flexer. And since 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:20.040 you can't see in the audience, I'll represent to you 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:22.240 that each one of us are doing our best bodybuilding 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:27.680 superposed right now to signify flex. That person takes a 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:31.120 historical flex in mind, a person that did something, and 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:34.560 then what they did. All three members of the other 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:38.480 show's team can question them until either they guess correctly 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.320 or their twenty questions run out, so they can ask 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:45.280 up to twenty questions. The questions can be yes or 0:07:45.320 --> 0:07:50.440 no questions, and acceptable answers are yes, no, I don't know, maybe, 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:52.920 or you're so far off that you should really ask 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:54.080 a different kind of question. 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.960 Different generous yeah, yeah, okay. 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:02.680 So the team correctly guesses the historical figure who did 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:06.120 the flex, we will award them one point. If the 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:09.000 team is also able to guess what the flex itself is, 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.720 then it's at the discretion of the flexor. They can 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:16.960 award any amount of points additionally or no points, and 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:19.760 at the end of questioning, the flexer will reveal their 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.200 historical figure and the flex and tell us a little 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:23.520 bit about it. So that's how it's going to go. 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:27.040 Any questions, is there a flexi or just a flex or? 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:31.480 I think that the questioners are the flexi Yes, question. 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:34.360 Yeah, getting the term straight, I'm good. 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:37.480 Is there a time limit for the twenty questions? 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:39.360 Well, I mean, we don't want to be here. 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:47.480 My next birthday next okay, Sara is your next birthday August? 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:51.120 But you know hey same yeah, same shout out. 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:52.800 Okay, good summer babies. 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:56.319 Yeah okay, So then we can we can just feel 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:58.360 it out. We can vibe together on. 0:08:58.280 --> 0:08:59.920 That take the journey with me. 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:00.320 Yeah. 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.840 Yeah, I want you to live your truth. 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.160 Yeah. You guys will be the first dave. You want 0:09:05.160 --> 0:09:06.600 to go be the first flexer. 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:09.800 Yeah, that's right. So the way this will go is 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.040 it'll be a round robin. Everybody will get a chance 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:16.160 to flex, and when one person's flexing, the three members 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:17.880 of the other team will get They all get to 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:21.760 ask questions. So, starting with me, we're going to start 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:25.080 the invisible clock that doesn't exist. Go ahead and guess 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.079 the historical flex I have in mind. 0:09:28.480 --> 0:09:30.960 Question one, is this person alive? 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:31.280 Now? 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:32.400 No? 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:33.960 Okay? 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:39.680 Was this person elected to some political office? 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:40.840 No? 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:46.120 Man? Was this person born in America? United States for America? 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:50.000 Yes? So that's three. 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:53.720 That puts that puts the three questions, three questions. 0:09:53.760 --> 0:09:57.160 Yeah, keeping count all along at home, as well, Thank you, 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:03.120 thank you, sered. Okay, did this person have siblings? 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:05.360 Uh? 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:08.600 Good question? I am gonna need to check my notes 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:09.040 on that. 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:11.439 Well, I would argue that if you don't know, they 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:12.840 probably weren't noteworthy. 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:14.959 Uh yeah, no they do not. 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:24.040 Was this person known for killing someone? 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:27.000 Shorthand? Uh no? 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:28.840 Why did you have to pause? 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:31.520 Think that would be a definitive yes or no? 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:33.800 A Max has got one, Mexic got one. 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:37.560 I don't have one. I'm counting the number I got 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:39.960 the question you can think, we want to question I 0:10:40.000 --> 0:10:44.360 got the number? Are we are we allowed to discuss 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:45.080 amongst our. 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:48.199 Conversation? 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:51.840 That doesn't count as question six, though you get. 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:53.520 To ask question that's five more questions. 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:56.199 Genie rules. 0:10:58.840 --> 0:10:59.800 For another wish? 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:01.800 I don't legal alignment? 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:03.400 All right, we got then? 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:09.440 Well I'm thinking, okay, so is this person known for 0:11:09.640 --> 0:11:13.760 a single historic act? No? 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:23.199 Right, no, guys, sorry, was this person in uh films? 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:24.040 Yes? 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:30.760 Was this person born in the nineteen hundreds. 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:32.120 The nineteen hundreds? 0:11:32.200 --> 0:11:32.480 Yes? 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.600 Okay, I'll even give you the date, nineteen fifteen. 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:46.559 Okay, okay, Charlie Chaplin, no is that? 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:48.360 Sorry? 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.000 No, No, they're letting us back because I was. 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:55.800 Thinking the same thing. Okay, Uh so is this person 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.440 well known today? Yes? 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.199 Okay, so we're calling that your ninth question. If that 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:05.280 if Knowles was reeled back, Okay, it was really good. 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:06.600 Thank you very gracious. 0:12:07.920 --> 0:12:14.120 Is this person mainly known for being a star of film. 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.000 It's a tough call. I'm gonna say. 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:16.079 No. 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:22.880 Oh, okay, is this uh uh? 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:23.199 Keep? 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:25.760 Does this person identify male? 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.000 Yes? Did since they were deceased? 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:34.400 Did since they were dead? Okay? Did? No? 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:35.920 Sorry? Sorry, Max, you gotta give us one. 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:38.360 Yeah, internal discussion. Is it Howard Hughes? 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:43.640 So let's see it's not what well, so it's not filmed. 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:47.480 They were in film though you said they were in films. 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:48.800 And it put us and put us somewhere like this. 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.160 I looked up Humphrey Bogart. That was eighteen hundred and. 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:55.040 No looking at stuff up? 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:55.880 Where was that? 0:12:56.440 --> 0:13:00.200 That was? No, you're gonna. 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.800 Phones phones phones faced down? 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:09.680 We are we are a show built around research. I researched. 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:16.880 It was Yeah, run Dave said that this person is 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:20.360 not known exclusively for being film stars, so it wouldn't 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.920 be a Bogart type figure. Howard Hughes type figure is interesting, 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:25.400 but he wasn't in films. 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:26.319 He just directed. 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:29.959 Yeah, okay, I got by the way. 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:31.320 I didn't know at all. 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.320 Until I watched The Aviator for the first time recently, 0:13:34.440 --> 0:13:35.959 which is a very good film. 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.280 Okay, he was an innovator of films, like he. 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.160 Really did all kinds of crazy stuff, and he was 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:43.360 he articulously clean. 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:48.559 For a while, like tissue boxes. 0:13:49.679 --> 0:13:50.920 And jars. 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:57.920 Okay, was this male historical figure also active in the 0:13:57.920 --> 0:13:58.680 world of music? 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:01.880 Yeah, yes, that's question twelve. 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.120 Okay, Question twelve, thank you? 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:05.640 All right? 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:11.200 So yes, So I'm thinking then, was this person someone 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:13.280 with ties to organized crime? 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:15.640 Question thirteen reputedly? 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:23.440 Okay, Okay, we got seven questions left you guys. Oh 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:24.840 oh yeah, Max, ask. 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:26.600 Is this person Frank Sinatra? 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:33.560 Yes, questions I came. 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:34.480 Is fun y'all. 0:14:34.720 --> 0:14:37.160 Wow, Okay, we haven't guessed the flex. 0:14:37.400 --> 0:14:40.680 Yes, So for an unnamed amount of additional points, can 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:42.960 you guess the flex that I have in mind right now? 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:48.480 That's how life was kind of a flex. That guy was. 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:50.520 Super problematic flexes too. 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.080 Let's see, I don't know if I know of one 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:57.400 that I would have associate with the idea of what 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:58.520 we're talking about. 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:02.320 Word winning musicians in street name Old Blue Eyes. 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:06.640 Is it something to do with with with us with 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:10.160 like luxury type of situation? 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:12.560 We're no longer in twenty questions? 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:13.960 How can we? 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:14.960 How can we possibly? 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:18.000 We just have to know everything about Frank I guess. 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:19.760 Take a guess. 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.520 It's sort of like, did he have a freakishly large 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.400 penis that he needed additional space in his pants? 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:25.960 So then. 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:30.120 What better guess do y'all have? 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:37.000 Was he was he involved in some sort of government operation? 0:15:38.320 --> 0:15:40.040 I don't know, but that is not the flex. 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:40.880 That wouldn't be. 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.120 We just want to hear we don't know, Yeah, what's 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:46.520 the flex? 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:50.000 The flex is Francis Albert Sinatra did his own stunts 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:53.680 in Manchurian Candidate, and as a result either broke his 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.840 hand or his wrist, and then he couldn't play Dirty 0:15:56.880 --> 0:15:59.520 Harry Harry Callahan in the Dirty Harry movies. 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:04.080 What I didn't know he was in the Manchurian Candidate. 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:06.880 I never think of Sinatra as being an actor at all. 0:16:06.960 --> 0:16:07.280 Really. 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:12.240 Yeah, also a bunch of movies he wanted to cdemy. 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:14.160 I had no idea. 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:17.080 Yeah, isn't it funny how sometimes you can just really 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.840 have like a blind spot for like certain things. I mean, 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.440 you know, we we researched and talk about stuff like 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:25.400 this all the time, and I just zero awareness that 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:26.960 Sinatra was in movies. 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:30.960 I also propose a port banteau if we're if we're interested, 0:16:31.080 --> 0:16:36.280 this is a flex A had consequences for Old Blue Eyes, 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.040 So what if we call that a flexequence. 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.080 He's very flexiquent. Yeah, a little bit more color. So 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:47.080 if you've seen the movie, Uh, he smashes his hand 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:49.800 onto a table, and that was really him smashing his 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:54.240 hand onto a table. Nancy Sinatra says he broke his finger. 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.240 Other sources say he broke his wrist, but they all 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:00.440 agree that it never healed right. And so he was 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:03.920 actually attached to the first Dirty Harry movie for six months. 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:06.400 And he gets in and they show him the three 0:17:06.400 --> 0:17:08.439 fifty seven magnum and he picks it up. 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.440 That's a big gun man, yeah. 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:13.360 And he says, and Zaren will do a better Old 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:15.320 Blue Eye than me, but he's like, I'm afraid it's 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:23.360 a little too big for my hands. I did find 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:25.600 a quote from Eastwood to confirming this, because I wanted 0:17:25.600 --> 0:17:29.000 to make sure this wasn't a bunch of bs. Eastwood said, 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:31.960 I was in post production on play Misty for me, 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.840 and they called up and asked, are you still interested? 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:38.680 In Dirty Harry, Eastwood recalled, I said, what happened to 0:17:38.720 --> 0:17:42.119 Frank Sinatra? And they said, Frank Sinatra's got some problem 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:44.159 with his hand and he can't hold a gun. That 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:47.000 sounded like a pretty lame excuse, but it didn't matter 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.879 to me. I said, I'll do it. But since they 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:52.480 had initially talked to me, there had been all these rewrites. 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:56.960 I said, I'm only interested in the original script. 0:17:59.080 --> 0:17:59.920 That's a flex and another. 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:07.320 I actually saw Dirty Harry for the first time recently 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:10.680 and again Blind Spot. I had no idea how tied 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:14.920 to the Zodiac Killer. Yeah, and it's sort of featured 0:18:15.080 --> 0:18:17.480 in Zodiac in the Fincher movie. They go to like 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:20.000 the premiere and then some of the detectives are like, guys, 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:20.400 it's over. 0:18:20.440 --> 0:18:21.840 They already made the movie about it. 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.600 Well, and there was some talk in the local, like 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:27.520 in the scene, that maybe this would draw him out 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.160 for more communications because there had been a gap. 0:18:30.640 --> 0:18:33.240 Oh, you guys are in Zodiac country. 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:37.280 Yeah, and when Sinatra couldn't do it, they're really scrambling 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.000 and so yeah. A couple other actors turned it down 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:42.640 because it was like all too weird and conservative for them, 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:44.960 like Steve McQueen was also approached for it, and he 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:47.840 was like, I already did a detective movie and this 0:18:47.880 --> 0:18:49.920 is doesn't fit with my with my feels. 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:53.720 Can you imagine the Steve McQueen dirty Harry movie. 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:55.800 Can you imagine a Frank Sinatra. 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:00.639 Part of me is now always going to be a 0:19:00.720 --> 0:19:03.040 little bit imagining the Steve McQueen. 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:03.879 Dirty Oh yeah, totally. 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:05.320 I'm just caring that. 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:06.919 Now. I need to see Bullet. 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:10.200 Have you guys seen Li Yeah, a couple of years 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:11.320 ago on the big screen. 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:13.280 Yes, one of my favorite movies of all time. 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:15.959 Yeah, it was amazing, the chase scene on a big screen. 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:17.280 The sound is engines. 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:19.640 If you ever see it playing like at an art 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:21.880 house theater near you go. 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:22.119 Go watch it. 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:26.920 Yeah, really like Drive. So I think Drive was highly inspired. 0:19:26.480 --> 0:19:31.320 By pretty much every car chase since nineteen sixty nine 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:32.879 has been inspired by Bullet. 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:35.520 Too true, Too True. 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:38.879 We also we did not get our wild card point 0:19:39.000 --> 0:19:41.720 for people playing a log at home. We had check 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:46.159 me your's eron. It took us fourteen of our twenty 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:50.600 questions to yeah to nail Nail Old Blue Eyes aka 0:19:50.760 --> 0:19:54.760 Frank A. Sinatra for a grand total of if you 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:57.679 could get a drum roll one point. 0:19:58.560 --> 0:20:00.240 Oh, Paul, I. 0:20:00.200 --> 0:20:02.200 Do want to point out that I, you know, was 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:05.480 suggested that maybe half a point if you if you guess, 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:09.720 and then I was like, I just no rules. Yeah, 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:12.920 so it's just whatever soul be. 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:17.160 Rewarded for guessing and fewer questions. That just feels, you. 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:20.320 Know, well, we can start where everyone starts with negative twenty. 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:24.240 Pride. It's like you can just coact like, you know, 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:26.119 we got ours and fourteen too, you guys night. 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:30.960 Well maybe the team with the lowest number score gets 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:34.000 an extra point at the end for that having that 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:36.440 that low score, low questions. 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:38.840 Yeah, it's up to your discretion. You could give five 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:39.480 hundred points. 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:42.560 Yeah. We can also just m PR p rriot and 0:20:42.800 --> 0:20:44.520 just you know, sort of like wait, wait, don't tell me, 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:45.840 just kind of have a good time. 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:48.840 Yeah, Zaren will you will you will you leave an 0:20:48.880 --> 0:20:51.159 outgoing message on my answering machine. 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:58.000 As I just got a text. It's from sponsors. They 0:20:58.040 --> 0:20:59.480 want us to take a break, oh. 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:02.840 Like as people are as a show. 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:06.160 Just both Yeah, they said, hang it up, this isn't working, 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:13.679 so let's do that and when we get back we 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:16.480 will have been as the next flexer. 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:40.480 And we have returned. Folks as always, thank you for 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:45.240 joining us. This is this is round two. We're in 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:48.879 the Luminaries of Ridiculous Crime. We'll have twenty questions to 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:54.919 guess an historical flexer, and perhaps indeed they're flex Now, 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:57.200 I'm gonna be honest, there is a weird one because 0:21:57.200 --> 0:21:59.720 you guys are experts, so I couldn't make it like 0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:03.439 too too easy. I'll start off by saying it is 0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:05.280 not carrot top. 0:22:06.160 --> 0:22:09.879 Oh okay, scratching out furiously. 0:22:13.240 --> 0:22:15.760 Oh, let's see for a first question, Elizabeth, you like 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:21.720 you're the first ones. All right. The first question is 0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:23.520 is the was this person an American? 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:25.320 Uh? 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:31.360 Yes, lived in America, lived in America? Gentle preezing there. 0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:35.360 Okay, I'm very mpr with these. 0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:40.480 Was this person alive to see baseball? 0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:52.359 Yes, like professional baseball or just like stickball in the alley. 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:54.200 Some form of baseball? 0:22:55.359 --> 0:22:56.400 What about plastic? 0:23:01.800 --> 0:23:04.399 Give me just a second on that one. Let me 0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:06.560 go back through my notes. That's a good question. I 0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:13.040 got to learn more about plastic. I'm gonna say no, not. 0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:17.240 Call it the graduate the way we know it. Okay, yeah, 0:23:17.480 --> 0:23:19.240 okay too. 0:23:21.720 --> 0:23:23.480 Well, if we're talking about. 0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:27.520 Plastics, are basically World War two, so being yeah, between 0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:32.200 the eighth nineteen nineteenth century and up to nineteen thirties. 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:35.200 Well, vacolate was early day. 0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:36.600 No, that's the beginning of plastics. 0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:40.080 Ask about wealth? 0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:43.240 Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Dave, you got a shot? Dave? 0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:47.720 Uh did the I don't want to I don't want 0:23:47.720 --> 0:23:52.840 to throw away my shot. Was this person part of 0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:55.080 the elite wealth class? 0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:56.359 No? 0:23:57.560 --> 0:24:02.040 Okay? Was this person born in Europe? 0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:06.119 Yes? 0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:13.680 Born in Europe? American citizen ballpark range of No, put enchanted? 0:24:15.560 --> 0:24:16.040 What years? 0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:17.639 We say we. 0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:19.680 Don't have a front end, we'd have a back end. 0:24:21.600 --> 0:24:26.399 Was this was this person alive before the camera? It 0:24:26.440 --> 0:24:28.240 was invented in eighteen thirty nine? 0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:32.280 Yes, okay? 0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:38.560 Was this person they lived a long time. If they 0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:44.320 made it to plastic, right, they didn't though, Oh so plastic. 0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:47.960 They got plastic as we on the other side. 0:24:48.040 --> 0:25:02.920 Oh, okay, okay, okay. Was this person famous for their knowledge? 0:25:06.160 --> 0:25:07.600 Could you be more specific? 0:25:09.200 --> 0:25:11.240 Was this person a scientist? 0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:12.840 No? 0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:13.000 No? 0:25:15.240 --> 0:25:17.119 Was this person a military leader? 0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:18.320 Also? 0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:18.520 No? 0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:21.200 Was this person a woman? 0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:22.760 Yes? 0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:27.520 Mmm, so this will be questioned ten? 0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:30.440 Yes, correct, we have nine so far, and we have 0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:32.760 I've got it narrowed down to two people, so this 0:25:32.760 --> 0:25:35.040 should be easy. 0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:38.320 Was this person controversial in her day? 0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:47.440 Yes? Ja yeah, that was a good one. 0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:50.680 Uh zerond have a question? 0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:56.159 Was this was this woman associated with a political movement? 0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:06.399 I'm a not really no, no, Noel Max. Would you 0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:08.720 guys be comfortable say no on that one? Just to 0:26:08.800 --> 0:26:09.280 check me here? 0:26:10.119 --> 0:26:14.040 Uh yeah, I would be comfortable. I forgot who who 0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:16.960 you have? So great? 0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:17.440 Great good? 0:26:17.800 --> 0:26:22.200 But whatever it is, sure this is this is a 0:26:22.240 --> 0:26:23.160 peculiar one. 0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:25.080 We've got nine guesses left. 0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:27.639 Okay, so what with our parameters? We're talking about a 0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:28.480 woman born. 0:26:28.240 --> 0:26:30.560 In Europe, becomes an American and was alive in the 0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:31.680 nineteenth century. 0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:37.480 Controversial, butsal Was this person an entertainer? 0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:46.040 No? No, I mean this is to be clear, this 0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:47.920 is a bit of a tough one. One hint I 0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:50.679 would give you is this is an excellent subject for 0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:59.520 an episode of something like Ridiculous Crime, slightly deep cut figure. 0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:04.919 Cut figure criminal pop possibly or overlapping with crime. 0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:09.320 I am having a how many questions have we had 0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:09.679 so far? 0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:14.280 When we've done twelve questions? That would be thirteenth question. 0:27:14.359 --> 0:27:18.919 Yeah, what about asking about whether they were convicted of 0:27:19.000 --> 0:27:20.240 federal charges. 0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:23.040 Or any charges federal or state. 0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:32.720 We'll go with that, okay, yeah, yes, uh convicted and 0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:37.960 I'll help you out here because this is a tough one. 0:27:38.080 --> 0:27:40.560 Convicted and then ultimately fled the US. 0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:42.200 Hm hmm. 0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:48.560 I'm having a hard time on this one. 0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:51.920 This is very this person married to a fame, anybody 0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:53.920 famous or that we would know by name. 0:27:54.880 --> 0:27:59.760 M m no, No, she's sort of the protagonist. I 0:27:59.760 --> 0:28:01.320 think your story. 0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:05.560 Okay, not an entertainer. 0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:10.480 Did this person do any violence in their lifetime? Any 0:28:10.560 --> 0:28:12.560 like notable violence? 0:28:13.119 --> 0:28:14.600 I would say ordered. 0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:18.760 It, yes, yes, but not directly perhaps, right. 0:28:18.880 --> 0:28:21.560 That should be a decent hint. What kind of figures 0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:22.560 order of violence? 0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:27.879 Mob boss? Crime figure like you know? 0:28:28.680 --> 0:28:32.119 Well, I'm still I have a guess, and one of 0:28:32.160 --> 0:28:35.159 the questions knocked my guess out, but I'm still it 0:28:35.440 --> 0:28:39.040 lines up. And do you know if it's someone that 0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:41.320 we've talked about on Ridiculous Crime? 0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:44.840 Is that a question? I looked. I looked, but I'm 0:28:44.880 --> 0:28:48.080 not sure we can we can count that we can 0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:49.680 count that as a procedural one. 0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:53.120 Five questions left. 0:28:54.480 --> 0:28:56.600 And also, by the way, already got a half point 0:28:57.200 --> 0:28:58.880 with mob boss because it's a tough. 0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:03.320 One, oh mos mob Okay. 0:29:03.400 --> 0:29:10.400 Since I can just give away. 0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:11.240 Gave you the birth year of Frank Sinatra, so that 0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:11.960 was helpful. 0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:17.880 Let's see mob boss women order and had to leave America. 0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:26.560 So are we guessing its Italian Russian combatation, Yeah, Colombian. 0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:31.280 We said they were born in Europe. 0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:33.360 But this is that was just a really cool a 0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:34.240 sm R moment. 0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:36.840 I've got the tangles. 0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:41.480 Okay, so I'm thinking, okay, possibly Italian. Yeah, I mean 0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:44.120 no offense, not to pay with a broad brush. 0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:44.160 Of course. 0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:45.560 But then also we have to keep in mind that 0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:47.920 there were a lot of British and French criminals who 0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:50.760 would have MOB qualified mob. 0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:55.600 Yeah yeah, mob might be a little broad. 0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:59.880 Irish British woman. 0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:02.320 Maybe like gang boss gang boss. 0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:07.000 So I could think famous or semi famous gang bosses 0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:11.640 the nineteenth century who were born in Europe, born in America. 0:30:12.080 --> 0:30:16.760 Went back, Did this woman have sons? 0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:23.120 Oh? I believe there was some family, Like. 0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:25.280 The son's part of her legend, Like the sons are 0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:26.240 important to who she was. 0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:31.000 The sons are not part of where you're going. 0:30:32.760 --> 0:30:33.280 For less. 0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:33.600 Yeah. 0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:39.760 Yeah, so she committed, she orders a crime, orders crimes done, 0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:44.160 and then has to flee back to Europe. And we're 0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:46.480 talking about turn of the century, it's. 0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:47.800 Gonna be Russian, like a white Russian. 0:30:47.800 --> 0:30:48.200 Who knows. 0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:51.840 I mean, it was difficult, so yeah, I think in 0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:55.320 British is my I'm leaning more British than anything. Yeah. 0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:57.040 Yeah, not to be a wet blanket. 0:30:57.040 --> 0:30:59.160 But I would argue that if you can't think of 0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:02.240 the person now, you might not know the name off 0:31:02.280 --> 0:31:03.120 the top of your head. 0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:04.760 Questions. 0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:06.920 I thought it would be Dave. 0:31:06.960 --> 0:31:08.720 You got anyone to we want to pair it down 0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:10.040 a little bit. We got four questions. 0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:15.120 Let's see. I would say, you know, I don't have 0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:19.400 good guesses. So it's I'm just like with the parameters, like. 0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:23.560 I, hmm, all right. 0:31:23.600 --> 0:31:28.400 The people the person that she allegedly ordered stuff done too? 0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:32.240 Were they also famous? Would we know them? 0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:38.800 Uh? They would often be uh some of the uh, 0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:41.040 some of the better off people in New York. 0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:42.400 Can I take a swing at this? 0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:43.240 Sure? 0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:45.120 Is it? Emma Goldman? 0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:47.840 Oh? No, it is not. 0:31:50.440 --> 0:31:54.360 The only thing that doesn't fit ordering violence? No, she 0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:57.040 that was her whole thing. She ordered violence. The only 0:31:57.080 --> 0:31:58.960 thing that doesn't fit is gang. And I thought, well, 0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:00.040 if you talk about. 0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:03.080 I mean, she didn't she instructed and urged violence. I 0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:06.400 don't think she ordered. She did not directly to it. 0:32:06.480 --> 0:32:08.400 She didn't tell like, hey, Steve, come over here, hit 0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:10.640 that person, were like, go to their door, knock. 0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:10.880 On their door. 0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:16.160 When she them go after the mill people, she specifically had, Okay. 0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:17.440 All right, I'll give you that. 0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:20.520 It's the game within a game, you know what. 0:32:20.680 --> 0:32:23.360 You know what I'd like to do if the group 0:32:23.480 --> 0:32:26.920 is okay with it, I would like to say, Emma Goldman, 0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:31.480 is such such an astute, wonderful answer. It is not, 0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:36.160 in fact this person, but this person is again a 0:32:36.400 --> 0:32:39.360 very difficult uh bit of a deep cut. 0:32:39.880 --> 0:32:40.000 Uh. 0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:43.520 I'm gonna go ahead and give the full point just 0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:45.960 because this one was so tough. And your guess is I. 0:32:45.960 --> 0:32:59.240 Don't all right, mob but gang gang. 0:32:59.560 --> 0:33:01.680 Also, because I'm a Golden I would say it was 0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:04.400 associated with political movies. That's why I asked that question. Yeah, 0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:06.640 I think, like, who do you like union movements that 0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:08.479 aren't political or like labors? 0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:15.200 There? Everything's political elephants, right, you know, forty elephants were 0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:17.800 totally a gang, but they're not purely and they weren't 0:33:17.840 --> 0:33:18.640 never in the US. 0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:20.440 They were never, but. 0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:23.760 That type of mob boss would be something. Yeah, So 0:33:24.440 --> 0:33:27.160 we got two guesses came to America, probably in New York. 0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:28.840 They were in New York trying to do violence. So 0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:32.880 who and who are the New York we got, like Queenie, 0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:34.200 we've got. 0:33:35.440 --> 0:33:39.840 Well, if you're talking about gangs before the twenty and 0:33:39.920 --> 0:33:45.800 gangs in those times were pretty much relegated to cultural groups, yes, nationality. 0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:51.040 So we're almost like a Fagin type figure, you know, 0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:57.120 background in like textiles, ran the shop from like kind 0:33:57.120 --> 0:34:00.920 of like a you know, ran the business, the illegal business. 0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:07.360 All right, I got was it Sadie the goat Farrell? 0:34:07.440 --> 0:34:08.920 Sadie Ferre said, the goat Farrell. 0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:12.719 I don't know, no, no, but no, but I'm loving it. 0:34:13.239 --> 0:34:13.560 Question. 0:34:17.120 --> 0:34:17.560 I don't know. 0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:20.080 Guys, all right, we got we got one last guest? 0:34:20.120 --> 0:34:23.360 Who wants to take it? Dave? Youre feeling hot? 0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:24.919 I got kiss? 0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:26.759 Yeah, I don't have anything for this one. 0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:28.600 Was it Rose? Was their first name? 0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:29.120 Rose? 0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:34.280 No, but I like that shot from half court. 0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:37.560 We can see this. 0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:41.359 You got it is a pretty good old lady name. Though. 0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:46.640 Half point because this was so tough, and because purely 0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:52.240 fellow ridiculous listeners at home. A half point purely because 0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:56.239 of the absolute top notch caliber of questions here The 0:34:56.520 --> 0:35:00.880 person we were looking for was someone named Marm Mandelbaumb 0:35:00.960 --> 0:35:05.839 Frederica Marm Mandelbaumb. I know I'm doing trivia voice there, 0:35:07.239 --> 0:35:13.400 but so Mandelbaum Mandelbaumb. It's very interesting that history has 0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:17.000 largely forgotten this quite successful criminal she. 0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:18.879 Ran. 0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:25.080 She ran one of New York's biggest fencing operations from 0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:29.440 like from eighteen sixty two to eighteen sixty four. She 0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:34.319 was also she had other gangs that she was fighting with, 0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:38.520 but she was helping coordinate things like the Ocean National 0:35:38.560 --> 0:35:42.520 Bank robbery. She was also she was born in Germany. 0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:46.880 We don't know too much about her early life because, surprise, surprise, 0:35:47.160 --> 0:35:51.239 she was a little bit sketchy. She made it. She 0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:56.080 made it to the US with her family or with 0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:59.480 her husband, Wolf Mandelborb, who he's kind of Bolf as 0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:02.359 sort of a milk toast in this story. But she 0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:05.240 gets there. She gets to the US in eighteen fifty 0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:07.920 and she has a dry goods store, so she has 0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:11.840 a legitimate operation, and as a small business owner, she 0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:14.560 has the opportunity to turn stuff around. Part of the 0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:16.920 reason why Poal Noel is saying she's a fake and 0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:24.239 esque character is because she started a school she institutionalized 0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:28.600 teaching kids how to be na'er do wells at a 0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:35.640 pickpocket pick a pocket, So no murder involved with her. 0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:42.040 She did end up being arrested because she just got 0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:43.680 out of hand. She just blew up in the big 0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:47.160 Apple so much that eventually, you know, the New York 0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:49.759 District attorney was like, hey, we got a higher the 0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:51.680 Pinkiton's the pinks? 0:36:51.800 --> 0:36:53.000 Oh my goodness. 0:36:53.440 --> 0:36:57.680 Yeah. So she gets released on bail after she's arrested 0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:01.480 with your points Aer and her sons, her son Julius, 0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:04.920 and then another guy's working for named Herman. Once she 0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:08.239 gets released on bail, she does exactly what everybody thought 0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:10.759 she would do. She high tails it out of the 0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:15.360 United States. She's skidaddles with one million dollars in eighteen 0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:21.000 eighty four and settles in Hamilton, Ontario. Shout out to 0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:24.239 your reference about throwing away the shot Dave, where she 0:37:24.520 --> 0:37:29.040 remains until she passes away ten years later. So I think, 0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:31.359 as a fan of ridiculous crime, I thought this would 0:37:31.400 --> 0:37:32.880 be like a great episode. 0:37:33.440 --> 0:37:37.840 Yeah, excellent, definitely, definitely. 0:37:37.800 --> 0:37:40.480 Ben would the would the Flex be the pickpocket school? 0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:41.160 What would you? 0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:42.000 Oh? 0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:44.600 Yes, thank you? The Flex is the Pickpocket School. 0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:48.200 I love that she started basically an elementary school to 0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:52.040 teach thieving and street crime. I mean, yeah, she's like 0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:54.960 Mother Marshmallow, but instead she just like, come under my 0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:56.480 dress and I will teach you crime and take care 0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:59.160 of your children. Let's go man man. 0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:03.720 She often referred to as mother, Mandel mom or marmah. 0:38:04.480 --> 0:38:04.800 Yeah. 0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:07.399 And you guys haven't ever mentioned her on your shows? Right? 0:38:07.760 --> 0:38:10.759 We had a show called on another show we do 0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:14.400 called stuff they don't want you to know. We we explored, 0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:16.759 we explored her life, and we sort of put it 0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:20.840 under the umbrella of conspiracy. God did conspire to start 0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:23.680 like oh yeah, crime elementary you know? 0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:26.800 Wow, wowie, wow, wow, that's amazing. 0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:29.040 You know what, I think this party could use. 0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:29.919 What's that day? 0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:36.360 Some really good ads like oh yeah, I got some 0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:37.200 in the oven. 0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:39.680 Excellent flex those ads. 0:39:00.040 --> 0:39:04.440 All right, guys, we're back twenty questions. So what's our 0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:05.399 score now? 0:39:05.680 --> 0:39:06.640 Is I got it? 0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:07.960 Is two to half? 0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:09.240 Two to half? Okay? 0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:10.279 Oh I thought I had a. 0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:13.760 Point because you rocked us beat us. 0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:16.040 Yeah, and that's that's only one point. 0:39:16.160 --> 0:39:18.560 Yeah, and they got Frank Sinatra, so that's two points. 0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:19.080 Yeah. 0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:21.920 No, the Frank Sinatra is one. If they guessed his 0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:23.160 flex that would have been another. 0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:25.960 Yeah, so then we did not get their answer, right, 0:39:26.000 --> 0:39:27.040 so they get one point for that. 0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:28.560 Yeah. 0:39:28.719 --> 0:39:31.000 Oh I have it as like you only get points 0:39:31.120 --> 0:39:32.640 when you're guessing. 0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:35.680 Oh yeah, they got They get points for traditionally twenty questions. 0:39:35.719 --> 0:39:37.840 If you stump the person, you get a point. So 0:39:37.960 --> 0:39:40.080 for stumping us, they should get a point. I would say, 0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:42.399 so it would be two to half according to. 0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:44.520 My And then we got the pity point five. 0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:46.160 Yeah, that he gave us the pinion. 0:39:46.320 --> 0:39:47.799 It was not a pity point five. 0:39:47.880 --> 0:39:49.520 We're trying to find a way to give it back, 0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:51.080 but we appreciate it. 0:39:51.600 --> 0:39:53.759 I like how. I also like how we're all out 0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:54.640 nice and each other. 0:39:56.800 --> 0:39:58.560 Ben try to give you all a full point and 0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:00.520 y'all said, no, we're not thinking any taking point, and 0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:02.919 then you settle for having on the record right here. 0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:05.919 I mean, if you wanted to profligate with points, sure, absolutely, 0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:07.560 Like what are my main of points? 0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:12.000 Well, we we're all being nice now, but we may 0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:15.720 encounter we may encounter quite a plot twist and turn, 0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:18.400 depending on how Max Noll and I do. 0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:23.919 Oh yeah, it's gonna get ugly. All right, So I've 0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:27.320 got that, I've got this in my head, and I 0:40:27.360 --> 0:40:29.719 am ready for questions. 0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:33.600 Okay, I'm counting questions here. Uh, let's go with this. 0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:39.839 Uh does this individual identify as male? 0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:41.640 Yes? 0:40:44.719 --> 0:40:47.080 Is it George Washington? I'm kidding. 0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:55.560 It was just a call back to yes. What Okay? 0:40:56.560 --> 0:40:59.560 Was this person uh a elected official? 0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:00.960 No? 0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:03.080 Okay, okay, okay. 0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:06.120 Was this person born in the nineteen hundreds? 0:41:07.160 --> 0:41:12.160 Yes? No, sorry I was seeing nineteenth century? No? 0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:19.759 Okay, okay, okay, okay, we know that. Now, okay. Is 0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:24.279 this person known for scientific breakthroughs? 0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:25.120 No? 0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:26.560 It's this person a criminal? 0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:35.719 Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay, I'm going to 0:41:35.800 --> 0:41:39.839 put yes, but with an audible Are. 0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:42.840 You keeping a spreadsheet? Ben? 0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:45.680 I do want to I do want to just have 0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:49.480 one captain, please qualify that all of your questions have 0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:56.319 made one assumption that is dear, but go ahead. 0:41:56.560 --> 0:41:58.279 One assumption that is incorrect. 0:41:58.840 --> 0:41:59.520 This is a person? 0:42:00.280 --> 0:42:02.600 Yeah? I think that would be because looking back through 0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:03.600 the rules. 0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:05.200 Is that is that is that a question? 0:42:05.280 --> 0:42:11.520 Max? Could the assumption be well, I don't know. 0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:12.960 I mean, I'm just I'm just telling you. 0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:16.120 Is I think the assumption is that that can they 0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:18.840 be not a person. They could be historical. 0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:22.600 It could be they specifically put creature into the room. 0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:31.279 And there's another assumption. Think of you came in, you 0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:33.840 came in with some implicit biases. 0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:41.640 Oh my gosh, my mind is running wild. 0:42:43.160 --> 0:42:52.400 Is is this uh figure a famous animal spy? 0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:53.760 No? 0:42:54.600 --> 0:42:55.000 Damn it? 0:42:57.160 --> 0:43:03.000 I like, uh, okay, I should have just asked it 0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:06.200 was an Is this figure a human being? Will burn 0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:09.399 that one? Just to get a clear Okay, great, there 0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:09.640 we go. 0:43:10.640 --> 0:43:12.600 So I have you guys had seven questions asked? 0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:15.720 Yes, okay, this will be our eighth question. 0:43:16.000 --> 0:43:20.080 So does that mean okay, a criminal though a non 0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:22.000 human criminal. 0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:23.319 They're like, don't we. 0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:25.240 Have stories that are pasted about like goats and stuff 0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:28.280 being arrested as like we had an animal personhood episode 0:43:28.560 --> 0:43:31.480 which unfortunately I was also on vacation one. Yeah, no 0:43:31.520 --> 0:43:32.320 help on that episode. 0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:33.600 Coincident. 0:43:35.800 --> 0:43:37.799 President just gone on that one. But I remember we 0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:41.200 had that episode about all the animals that committed crimes? 0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:46.160 Was this individual creature? Was this creature of mammal? 0:43:46.800 --> 0:43:47.080 Yes? 0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:48.520 Yes, yeah, probably? 0:43:48.680 --> 0:43:54.200 Okay, is this that elephant that got electrocuted? 0:43:54.320 --> 0:43:58.080 I was thinking that jumpo, No, no, no. 0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:00.160 You mean like by Edison, like when you went edge. 0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:02.879 Yeah, when he was trying to hype up the Yeah, 0:44:03.239 --> 0:44:05.520 what a terrible guy that What dude was. 0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:07.960 How can an animal be a criminal? 0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:10.200 Lots of ways. 0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:12.799 An accomplice. 0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:15.000 Perhaps that's one. 0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:20.840 Way trained like the count internal convo, this internal discussion. 0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:30.520 H're welcome, Just feed us some good intel while you're 0:44:30.560 --> 0:44:30.919 in here. 0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:32.480 Jesus. 0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:36.080 They walk across the set. Stand there, I'm on the 0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:36.840 Jenkins family. 0:44:36.880 --> 0:44:43.439 Now there's another implicit assumption that we haven't tackled. There's 0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:46.760 a second when we didn't get you guys, uh, which 0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:49.680 is let's see a creatures. 0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:52.319 So we got that aquatic they actually. 0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:57.040 Mamal it was on earth. I'll give you that han. 0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:02.400 Water dwelling. 0:45:04.440 --> 0:45:08.640 Oh is that your question? Yeah, it is not a 0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:11.680 water dwelling, not a water not a water dweller. 0:45:12.000 --> 0:45:15.200 That's question ted land mammal. So what do we got here? 0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:17.480 What what kind of land mammals are capable of doing? 0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:25.880 Cron So we have Lomas, I'll pack. 0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:25.720 Up name them all. 0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:32.719 She sure, Yeah, we can ask if it's that, we 0:45:32.960 --> 0:45:34.640 could ask. And so this is just amongst us. If 0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:37.080 it's a new world or an old world monkey. 0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:38.760 The term new world's kind of problem. 0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:42.480 Yeah, so I can't. 0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:43.279 Pay, we won't ask that. 0:45:43.560 --> 0:45:46.760 I'm picturing the murderous ape from that Edgar Allan post 0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:49.080 or murders in the room wort spoiler alert. 0:45:49.160 --> 0:45:50.239 It was an ape. 0:45:51.960 --> 0:45:53.560 For some reason, I just had I've had a dog 0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:54.759 in my head this entire time. 0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:58.520 But yeah, oh okay, yeah, let's just let's burn a couple. 0:45:58.560 --> 0:46:03.840 Getting closer to the type of animal. Is it a primate? 0:46:04.719 --> 0:46:05.319 No? 0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:11.279 No, all right, helpful, It's not a Pepperino elephants? 0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:13.040 Did you say Pepperino? Is that a question? 0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:14.560 Popperino a dog? 0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:15.200 Yes? 0:46:15.760 --> 0:46:17.040 Yes, yes, it is? 0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:20.520 Okay, yes, how many questions? 0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:23.320 We're at twelve thirteen questions? 0:46:23.760 --> 0:46:24.520 That thirteenth coming? 0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:29.200 Wasn't there that dog that was shot into space? Yees, like, 0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:30.320 that's way different? 0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:31.520 Is way different? 0:46:31.560 --> 0:46:32.840 Well this is eighteen hundreds. 0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:36.080 Yeah, and technically that's not across the crime was done. 0:46:36.320 --> 0:46:37.719 It was a victag like it. 0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:39.840 Was that was just trespassing in space. 0:46:40.320 --> 0:46:42.520 So it's a dog that did some sort of crime. 0:46:42.560 --> 0:46:44.520 But we also have an assumption that we were forgetting 0:46:44.520 --> 0:46:44.960 about that. 0:46:45.000 --> 0:46:47.319 I can't remember an additional assumption that. 0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:48.040 We have not address. 0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:49.200 I got it, I got him done. 0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:54.800 On like a fourteen ah ah, that's all right fine, 0:46:55.719 --> 0:46:58.000 even though we we established it was the eighteen nine. 0:46:58.120 --> 0:47:02.239 But there's nothing just screaming to my right now, is it? 0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:03.160 Do you want to hint? 0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:04.040 I think we should get me. 0:47:04.160 --> 0:47:11.799 Yeah, you have mentioned my flexer on your show. Wow, 0:47:12.239 --> 0:47:14.680 the words have passed your lips. 0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:16.760 So you guys have said this out loud? 0:47:18.000 --> 0:47:18.520 Is this? 0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:25.239 Uh? Wait? Internal conversation? Personal? Did we already ask about America? 0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:26.399 Oh? 0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:29.239 I don't know. I think did we don't know? 0:47:29.520 --> 0:47:32.239 I'm totally down to pull up our comprehensive metal sheet. Right, 0:47:33.600 --> 0:47:37.840 we're not doing that? Okay, No, I won't tell you 0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:38.480 that I'm doing it. 0:47:38.560 --> 0:47:42.040 No, you already game away, Max, don't don't, don't, don't 0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:44.720 be like it's not funny. 0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:46.000 I'm competitive. 0:47:46.520 --> 0:47:53.520 It so much more fun. When we did not established that, 0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:55.359 then I feel like we did. 0:47:55.480 --> 0:47:57.960 We should remember. If we don't remember, not useless. 0:47:58.200 --> 0:48:01.160 We did not. The reason we feel like we established 0:48:01.160 --> 0:48:04.640 Americas because we we had the American quick question on 0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:06.399 George Washington words. 0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:10.080 Yes, picturing a European dog for some reason? 0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:11.200 Is it a vegetable dog? 0:48:12.160 --> 0:48:13.839 What's vegetable dog? Like a dog? 0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:16.839 Brain like dole traumatic brain injury, like. 0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:20.239 So like the it's a it's a terrible practice where 0:48:20.239 --> 0:48:24.600 they had to where they made dogs live turning spits 0:48:24.640 --> 0:48:25.399 to cook meat. 0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:28.120 No, no, no, it's not a vegetable dog. 0:48:28.600 --> 0:48:32.640 No, I'm going to charge you two questions? Oh, I. 0:48:34.120 --> 0:48:36.160 Fourteen questions? You've got six left? 0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:38.880 Do you just walk around with your brain? 0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:39.920 Right? 0:48:40.280 --> 0:48:41.920 What's your fifteenth guess? 0:48:42.360 --> 0:48:43.680 I am hitting over. 0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:46.800 We had that episode, guys, with that two part episode 0:48:46.800 --> 0:48:49.440 we did about hero animals. 0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:54.480 But this is a criminal who knows why. 0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:55.520 Can't a criminal? And he would be the same person 0:48:56.960 --> 0:48:59.399 episodes are hero Robin is a criminal. 0:48:59.040 --> 0:49:04.080 Who is mean what I'm saying, Yeah, same with Cara tops. 0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:06.319 Unfortunately for that episode of all I can remember is 0:49:06.360 --> 0:49:11.879 the Hero cats. So I'm no help here. Oh but I. 0:49:11.800 --> 0:49:13.280 Didn't, I didn't answer that question. 0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:15.879 What I'm saying, Ben, you got anything hand up? 0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:17.479 Was this? Was this? 0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:17.880 Uh? 0:49:18.400 --> 0:49:26.239 Was this unfortunate dog o arrested by political authorities? 0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:31.359 Yes? All political? What do you mean define political? Like 0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:33.279 elected officials or like I. 0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:37.680 Would say they were elected, they were arrested by the authority. Yes, 0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:41.000 in the traditional sense of what we would assume that means. 0:49:41.080 --> 0:49:42.640 Yeah, I just I don't know. 0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:45.280 Idea because I was thinking, no, Max, I was thinking, 0:49:45.480 --> 0:49:50.080 was it ecclesiastical authorities or something like that. 0:49:50.560 --> 0:49:52.600 No, this is not an excommunicated dog. 0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:55.120 No, was this like a Joan of archetype dog? 0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:59.480 You know, heretic dog? You know what I mean. 0:50:00.000 --> 0:50:02.239 I'm just going to say, I'm pretty certain it's one 0:50:02.280 --> 0:50:04.960 of the animals we talked about in that two part episode. 0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:08.360 Is probably do you want to ask that a question? 0:50:09.600 --> 0:50:15.960 This is internal, internal, completely comfortable. 0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:18.040 We got a chair for you. 0:50:18.560 --> 0:50:21.399 This is sorry, sorry, what am I doing? 0:50:21.480 --> 0:50:21.600 So? 0:50:22.000 --> 0:50:22.799 Dave? Going back? 0:50:23.400 --> 0:50:26.319 Unfortunately I can't remember all the animals we talked about. 0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:28.400 I remember our whole second part was just about that 0:50:28.560 --> 0:50:30.680 cat that lived on the boat. 0:50:31.840 --> 0:50:33.200 Uh, I don't know. 0:50:34.080 --> 0:50:35.000 Give you another head? 0:50:35.360 --> 0:50:36.880 Well no, I'm talking about the whole episode. 0:50:37.120 --> 0:50:37.960 Give you another head. 0:50:38.200 --> 0:50:41.000 Yes, okay, okay, that's not the episode. 0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:45.359 To save you some time. 0:50:45.719 --> 0:50:47.280 That is actually very wonderful. 0:50:47.560 --> 0:50:48.840 Thank you, You're very welcome. 0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:54.879 Okay, I got nothing and also with you more questions, more. 0:50:54.840 --> 0:50:56.000 Questions, questions. 0:50:57.040 --> 0:50:59.600 We have five one right, now, go go. 0:50:59.800 --> 0:51:01.960 What is I the producer of Ridiculous History? When we 0:51:02.000 --> 0:51:03.000 talked about this animal? 0:51:03.120 --> 0:51:04.920 Oh? 0:51:05.440 --> 0:51:09.080 Because it would be April twenty twenty one when it 0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:11.399 became twenty one twenty one. 0:51:11.480 --> 0:51:14.560 Yes, yeah, Max, you were the producer. 0:51:15.400 --> 0:51:16.720 Okay, four questions. 0:51:18.400 --> 0:51:20.640 Okay, it gives us down to three hundred episodes. 0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:25.080 Wow all the time? Barks all right. 0:51:25.120 --> 0:51:26.839 I don't know, guys. I don't want to burn any 0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:28.320 more questions. I feel like I've. 0:51:28.200 --> 0:51:31.560 Kind of dogs dogs. You guys know dogs. You like 0:51:31.680 --> 0:51:33.840 dogs that impress you dogs. I like your fear. 0:51:34.480 --> 0:51:36.120 That's a problem. I like every dog. 0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:38.120 Sorry, am I, you're not helping you. 0:51:38.320 --> 0:51:39.080 I like every dog. 0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:41.640 I bet you they moved the table this time? 0:51:45.120 --> 0:51:46.440 Is it? 0:51:47.520 --> 0:51:47.640 No? 0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:50.680 Because Noel, you already asked about Spike or trade craft? 0:51:50.840 --> 0:51:51.239 I did. 0:51:51.400 --> 0:51:55.080 Yeah, never mind, I'm cursing now. 0:51:57.440 --> 0:51:59.319 I'm pounding my fists on my desk. 0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:01.239 Very quistics the. 0:52:01.760 --> 0:52:03.080 He's going to get another part? 0:52:03.760 --> 0:52:06.080 Yeah, I don't know. 0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:06.560 Guys. 0:52:06.600 --> 0:52:08.680 Do you want to do you want to call it? 0:52:08.719 --> 0:52:10.680 I feel like our guesses are good, but. 0:52:12.120 --> 0:52:18.040 Don't guys, what's some hell? Mag I don't feel too bad. 0:52:17.840 --> 0:52:21.520 About being obscure, seeing as how you've said it before. 0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:23.560 No, No, that's fair, that's fair. 0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:27.560 Would this dog be considered after the actions that took place, 0:52:27.880 --> 0:52:31.920 some sort of like political symbol that is our question 0:52:32.000 --> 0:52:33.120 seventeen kind of. 0:52:33.080 --> 0:52:39.480 Not really kind of okay, cultural cultural? 0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:46.319 Did this dog commit crimes against a baby? 0:52:48.239 --> 0:52:50.400 I want that on a shirt and I want to 0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:53.120 know how a hero criminal? But no. 0:52:54.719 --> 0:52:55.040 Baby? 0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:57.360 Okay, I know there was a dog that did something 0:52:57.400 --> 0:52:58.320 wrong to a baby. 0:53:00.040 --> 0:53:02.640 Episode No crimes against a human baby? 0:53:02.920 --> 0:53:03.400 Oh wow? 0:53:04.400 --> 0:53:05.560 All right? 0:53:06.040 --> 0:53:07.040 More? 0:53:07.360 --> 0:53:12.680 Two more? Was this dog the subject of a widespread 0:53:12.719 --> 0:53:13.640 cultural panic? 0:53:14.080 --> 0:53:17.200 No, I got one. Last one, I'll get I'll give 0:53:17.239 --> 0:53:17.480 you one. 0:53:19.160 --> 0:53:23.520 Your question, was this dog in the band widespread panic? 0:53:24.400 --> 0:53:24.680 Yes? 0:53:26.560 --> 0:53:26.960 Lies? 0:53:27.160 --> 0:53:27.400 Was this? 0:53:27.719 --> 0:53:32.000 Was there a film made about this dog? No, that's 0:53:32.000 --> 0:53:32.759 a bummer. 0:53:33.000 --> 0:53:35.040 That is what did you do? 0:53:35.200 --> 0:53:39.440 What did you just say that film reaction? 0:53:39.960 --> 0:53:40.080 Oh? 0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:42.960 I said that's a bummer. It feels like this animal 0:53:43.000 --> 0:53:43.840 clearly deserves it. 0:53:43.920 --> 0:53:45.520 Well, I'm going to tell you the story. 0:53:45.760 --> 0:53:46.080 Okay. 0:53:46.239 --> 0:53:47.160 Oh, here we go. 0:53:47.239 --> 0:53:49.640 Of Bummer and Lazarus. 0:53:50.160 --> 0:53:51.320 Are you serious? 0:53:51.320 --> 0:53:57.920 Serious? So everyone knows the iconic San Francisco skyline. You know, 0:53:58.000 --> 0:54:01.040 you got the Trans America building and in that area 0:54:01.120 --> 0:54:03.840 when we go all the way back to the eighteen sixties, 0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:06.520 there is a man, Emperor Norton. You guys had an 0:54:06.560 --> 0:54:07.480 episode about. 0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:09.520 Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, and the show. 0:54:09.880 --> 0:54:13.160 You mentioned his dogs, Bummer and Lazarus. Now is a 0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:18.480 passing mention Bummer and Lazarus, and Emperor Norton again declared 0:54:18.560 --> 0:54:22.480 himself Emperor of the US Protector of Mexico. He was 0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:24.760 always seen in the company of these two dogs, Bummer 0:54:24.760 --> 0:54:26.960 and Lazarus. He wasn't their owner, though, because these were 0:54:27.000 --> 0:54:30.239 stray dogs, and they were two of hundreds in the 0:54:30.280 --> 0:54:33.680 city at the time. And so on a cold day 0:54:33.920 --> 0:54:37.600 eighteen sixty one, a terrible dog fight broke out on 0:54:37.640 --> 0:54:40.560 a street in San Francisco. It's vicious big dogs attacking 0:54:40.600 --> 0:54:43.400 a smaller dog. Big dog takes a bite out of 0:54:43.400 --> 0:54:46.560 the smaller one's leg. That small one just yells out, 0:54:46.680 --> 0:54:50.640 yelps out. Another dog comes running in, breaks up the fight, 0:54:51.440 --> 0:54:55.080 bites the bully dog, drags the injured dog into a 0:54:55.120 --> 0:54:57.960 doorway and the two of them huddle there. And so 0:54:58.040 --> 0:55:01.520 the savior dog, that's Bummer. Bummer was called Bummer, who 0:55:01.600 --> 0:55:03.879 was a big black and white Newfoundland mix. Bummer would 0:55:03.880 --> 0:55:06.200 go around to all the saloons in the Barbary Coast 0:55:06.480 --> 0:55:09.080 begging for food, and people would feed them and he'd 0:55:09.120 --> 0:55:12.600 sit there and eat, and then uh just known all 0:55:12.640 --> 0:55:15.600 around town. Well, so Bumber still goes around to the saloons, 0:55:15.640 --> 0:55:18.759 gets food, but takes it to go, takes it out 0:55:18.800 --> 0:55:20.960 to this dog, this injured dog, and they sleep in 0:55:21.000 --> 0:55:23.880 this doorway for a few weeks while the bite heels. 0:55:23.920 --> 0:55:26.680 But everyone's like, this dog's not going to recover, but 0:55:26.880 --> 0:55:31.160 the dog does, and Lazarus was reborn. And then these 0:55:31.200 --> 0:55:36.600 two become an absolutely paired duo. They go everywhere together 0:55:36.719 --> 0:55:39.240 all the time. And this is one hundred and sixty 0:55:39.280 --> 0:55:43.320 years ago doggy life. So what's their flex. Their flex 0:55:43.880 --> 0:55:45.880 is that they had a skill that wound up saving 0:55:45.920 --> 0:55:48.960 their lives. They were so good at ratting that they 0:55:49.000 --> 0:55:52.480 became in demand pest control in like the filthy streets 0:55:52.560 --> 0:55:56.600 of San Francisco's. So in one instance, they get called 0:55:56.600 --> 0:55:59.320 in to control the rats in a hotel. The dogs 0:55:59.400 --> 0:56:03.040 enter the building. Twenty minutes later, eighty five rats are dead. 0:56:04.120 --> 0:56:06.800 And because of this, everyone loves them. But there's trouble, 0:56:06.800 --> 0:56:10.520 there's trouble on the horizon. So stray dogs are totally 0:56:10.560 --> 0:56:13.120 out of control in San Francisco. There's hundreds and hundreds 0:56:13.120 --> 0:56:15.960 of them, and so animal control is like taking them 0:56:15.960 --> 0:56:19.279 in at this exponential rate, and then less than ten 0:56:19.320 --> 0:56:21.360 percent of the ones they take in or ever claimed. 0:56:21.600 --> 0:56:25.160 So the Board of Supervisors they pass an ordinance animal Control. 0:56:25.239 --> 0:56:26.920 You got to go out round up as many as 0:56:26.960 --> 0:56:29.799 possible any dog without a muzzle or a leash on 0:56:30.360 --> 0:56:32.479 and if someone claims them, they have to pay five 0:56:32.520 --> 0:56:34.879 bucks to get them out of pound. If no one 0:56:34.920 --> 0:56:36.760 claims them, the cops shoot him on site. 0:56:36.880 --> 0:56:38.240 Damn geez rough. 0:56:38.640 --> 0:56:41.480 So immediately people in the area, they're worried about Bummer 0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:43.440 and Lazarus. You know, they lived on the streets and 0:56:43.440 --> 0:56:45.320 they liked it that way. They could never be owned, 0:56:45.719 --> 0:56:48.439 and people were right to be worried, because pretty soon, 0:56:48.520 --> 0:56:52.399 poor Lazarus he gets caught. Luckily, someone steps in pays 0:56:52.440 --> 0:56:56.200 the five dollars. But this outraged the people of San Francisco. 0:56:56.760 --> 0:57:00.160 They petitioned the Board of Supervisors to exempt Bummer and 0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:04.360 Lazarus from this death order, and so they have a 0:57:04.440 --> 0:57:08.520 meeting to hear this petition. Bummer and Lazarus go to 0:57:09.400 --> 0:57:12.279 city Hall and they're gathered in the doorway, just like 0:57:12.360 --> 0:57:16.120 they did when Lazarus was healing, waiting to hear their 0:57:16.160 --> 0:57:20.640 fate inside the chambers, and the city fathers they listened. 0:57:20.680 --> 0:57:25.120 They declared Bummer and Lazarus city property companions. To the 0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:28.720 city itself. So they're big flexes where we you know, 0:57:28.840 --> 0:57:31.360 we're not going to be killed. We now are belonged 0:57:31.360 --> 0:57:34.440 to the entire city, a whole city, because we kill 0:57:34.520 --> 0:57:37.440 so many rests. And then like a week later, they 0:57:37.480 --> 0:57:40.120 totally proved their worth because the two of them stopped 0:57:40.120 --> 0:57:43.000 a runaway horse cart on Busy Clay Street. They one 0:57:43.080 --> 0:57:46.040 on either side, they run along, Bummer gets out in front, 0:57:46.360 --> 0:57:48.760 slows the horse, a man jumps on is able to 0:57:48.760 --> 0:57:51.240 pull the reins back, and there are all these other 0:57:51.280 --> 0:57:54.160 stories of their companionship and their antics, and then their 0:57:54.160 --> 0:57:57.360 eventual passing was like city wide morning when each one 0:57:57.440 --> 0:58:01.040 finally went. But it's a solid cane flex. You kill 0:58:01.080 --> 0:58:04.080 some rats, you get exempt from the death penalty, and 0:58:04.120 --> 0:58:06.080 you belong to the city by the bay, and you 0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:07.000 become legends. 0:58:07.200 --> 0:58:09.600 Well beautiful. I also have to say, just in the 0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:12.880 interest of fairness, rats are very intelligent creatures and they 0:58:12.880 --> 0:58:14.240 probably have their own stories. 0:58:14.320 --> 0:58:16.280 But oh, I'm sure, but they're also filthy. 0:58:17.200 --> 0:58:22.720 Yes, that is true. Uh, existence requires us to exist 0:58:22.720 --> 0:58:26.440 and filter. But do we get a half point for 0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:28.520 that half court shot and noll through with Bummer? 0:58:29.000 --> 0:58:29.440 Of course? 0:58:29.640 --> 0:58:35.120 Jeez, totally half I have to jump in here so 0:58:35.160 --> 0:58:36.840 I can get a max with the facts in on 0:58:36.840 --> 0:58:40.920 this episode, there is actually a dry gin titled Bumber 0:58:41.040 --> 0:58:44.240 and Lazarus with the dogs on it, and one of 0:58:44.240 --> 0:58:47.160 the dogs even has a rat in the exactly. 0:58:47.000 --> 0:58:50.000 And apparently they were just terribly ugly, but everyone just 0:58:50.080 --> 0:58:53.000 loved them to death. And so Bummer and Lazarus, those 0:58:53.000 --> 0:58:53.680 are my dudes. 0:58:54.600 --> 0:58:59.880 Amazing Elizabeth, I amazing like. And also it looks like 0:59:00.120 --> 0:59:04.120 if I'm keeping score here, if we're if we're playing log, 0:59:04.680 --> 0:59:08.600 you also get a point for I would suggest that 0:59:08.760 --> 0:59:11.680 Ridiculous Crime gets a point for stumping us. Yes, and 0:59:11.720 --> 0:59:14.080 then and then we get a half point. 0:59:14.400 --> 0:59:18.200 Because no, man, you just won't right out. 0:59:19.480 --> 0:59:22.160 Okay, So do you want to compare notes? Ben, I 0:59:22.160 --> 0:59:24.880 got us at two and a half. You two point five, 0:59:25.120 --> 0:59:27.480 us one point five. So two and a half one 0:59:27.520 --> 0:59:27.920 and a half. 0:59:28.600 --> 0:59:31.080 That's where I've got us, as well as Aeron, which 0:59:31.080 --> 0:59:36.000 I think means we have to continue this in another episode. 0:59:36.080 --> 0:59:37.960 Let's make a week of it, you know what I mean. 0:59:41.200 --> 0:59:44.280 I can't wait. I can't wait. You guys, thank you 0:59:44.360 --> 0:59:46.640 so much for having us over here on Ridiculous Crime. 0:59:46.800 --> 0:59:49.680 Thank you for joining us. Thank you and thank you 0:59:49.720 --> 0:59:51.520 for having us on Ridiculous Sisters. 0:59:51.600 --> 0:59:56.800 Yes, it's the secret. Third thing we found a third. 0:59:56.640 --> 1:00:01.360 Place was amazing. That was something. 1:00:01.680 --> 1:00:03.360 Yeah, that is all over my face. 1:00:03.480 --> 1:00:04.640 Yeah that was wild. 1:00:04.800 --> 1:00:06.320 I just brushed back by the wind. 1:00:06.560 --> 1:00:08.240 Wait, so where'd they go? 1:00:09.080 --> 1:00:11.560 They left you while you were talking to the interns. 1:00:11.560 --> 1:00:14.400 They left, they bounced, Yeah, producer Dave and I said goodbye. Oh, 1:00:14.480 --> 1:00:17.160 you know whatever. But they know your hearts in the 1:00:17.240 --> 1:00:17.840 right place. 1:00:17.640 --> 1:00:18.040 That's true. 1:00:18.360 --> 1:00:23.480 How many questions was that in total? Like fourteen plus? 1:00:23.640 --> 1:00:26.200 They hit twenty and then twenty. 1:00:27.360 --> 1:00:31.200 Fourteen and twenty so that was yeah, what is that 1:00:31.320 --> 1:00:33.120 fifty four four? Right? Yeah? 1:00:33.680 --> 1:00:36.040 Fourth questions pretty close to the limit. And we had 1:00:36.080 --> 1:00:41.200 one there, one guest, one sort of guest but really not, 1:00:41.800 --> 1:00:44.680 and and one we had no freaking clue on. 1:00:45.160 --> 1:00:46.640 Yeah, and at half point, I still want to give 1:00:46.680 --> 1:00:50.720 back Oh yeah, sure, episode, We will give that back 1:00:50.720 --> 1:00:51.040 to them. 1:00:51.960 --> 1:00:53.960 We might even mail it when they leave it on 1:00:54.000 --> 1:00:54.360 their door. 1:00:54.600 --> 1:00:54.800 Yeah. 1:00:54.840 --> 1:00:58.240 Yeah, so ridiculous takeaways anything. 1:00:59.480 --> 1:01:02.800 You know, what I tried really hard. My ridiculous takeaway 1:01:02.800 --> 1:01:05.560 thank you for asking, is that I tried really hard 1:01:05.600 --> 1:01:08.720 not to be like hyper competitive, and I think you 1:01:08.880 --> 1:01:11.760 failed because you started answering my questions. 1:01:13.080 --> 1:01:14.760 I just get bored in the middle when I start 1:01:14.800 --> 1:01:17.640 helping whoever I got the ball, I'm score. 1:01:17.840 --> 1:01:19.920 Yeah, it's the team where you know what you guys, 1:01:20.560 --> 1:01:23.880 we're a team. We work together. So my ridiculous takeaway 1:01:23.960 --> 1:01:27.200 is I'm proud of myself for there was no bloodshed, 1:01:27.840 --> 1:01:30.960 you know, no insults hurled. I didn't cheat, Max me, 1:01:32.160 --> 1:01:32.640 I did you. 1:01:32.680 --> 1:01:34.080 Leave my man maximum out of this? 1:01:34.200 --> 1:01:36.440 Is Zaron? What's your ridiculous takeaway. 1:01:36.160 --> 1:01:40.560 My ridiculous camp? Did you see that participation anyway? Mine 1:01:40.720 --> 1:01:45.640 is uh? I liked your your stumping them on, like 1:01:46.120 --> 1:01:48.800 basically flipping the idea of like what could be the 1:01:48.920 --> 1:01:51.440 historical figure. I thought that was great. I would have 1:01:51.480 --> 1:01:54.400 definitely not got that correct, but it also would have 1:01:54.480 --> 1:01:57.000 driven me insane and I would have protested that's not 1:01:57.080 --> 1:02:00.200 a person. Why person? So I think also like to 1:02:00.240 --> 1:02:02.600 give them credit for not being jerk like me. It 1:02:02.680 --> 1:02:05.840 was like, Elizabeth, why would you get it eight legs? 1:02:06.400 --> 1:02:08.960 You came up with two creatures eight legs. I'm over 1:02:09.000 --> 1:02:10.720 here trying to picture a person me. 1:02:11.680 --> 1:02:12.760 You know I would do something like that? 1:02:12.840 --> 1:02:14.439 Was great on your team? 1:02:14.520 --> 1:02:16.920 Producer, Dave, what's your ridiculous takeaway. 1:02:17.040 --> 1:02:19.520 My ridiculous takeaway is I need to come up with 1:02:19.560 --> 1:02:22.640 a tougher one to really stump them next time, because 1:02:22.720 --> 1:02:24.320 I thought, you know, I went in with my kid 1:02:24.360 --> 1:02:27.760 gloves on and uh yeah, and they they did pretty good. 1:02:27.800 --> 1:02:31.479 They shredded it in like fourteen questions. But next time, 1:02:31.720 --> 1:02:33.240 you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna come up with something 1:02:33.280 --> 1:02:33.840 little tougher. 1:02:34.280 --> 1:02:36.760 I think if you hadn't have given them the birth, yeah, 1:02:36.800 --> 1:02:39.000 the birth. And then I also have to say that 1:02:39.080 --> 1:02:43.040 yours was the coolest quote unquote flex as they say, 1:02:43.720 --> 1:02:46.240 of all of them, like, you don't get cooler than that. 1:02:47.160 --> 1:02:50.840 You got Sinatra, You've got Dirty Harry. 1:02:51.160 --> 1:02:54.600 Got Henry Silva bullet bullet. 1:02:54.680 --> 1:02:59.640 Yeah, I mean, come on, yeah, it's all there. Zodiac 1:03:00.280 --> 1:03:03.400 come on Peak San Francisco. So you know, my ridiculous take. 1:03:06.320 --> 1:03:08.600 It's like and took another number and. 1:03:11.600 --> 1:03:13.440 The ultimate winner is producer Dave. 1:03:13.640 --> 1:03:14.840 I'm with that. I like that call. 1:03:15.400 --> 1:03:18.160 Well on that note. That is all we have for today, 1:03:18.240 --> 1:03:20.360 and I don't want anything else in there, so I'm 1:03:20.360 --> 1:03:23.040 going to leave it there. 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