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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Saren, Elizabeth Ben, Noel Max. Do you know what's ridiculous?

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Speaker 2: Six hosts, six hosts in a tiny.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be some cross talk, y'all, It's gonna be some crosstalk.

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Speaker 3: We're doing our best.

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Speaker 4: Wait wait, no, no, are we cross talking?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: No, no, just barely.

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Speaker 4: We're not cross talking at all?

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Speaker 6: Are you?

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Speaker 3: Are you being serious?

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Speaker 6: Yes, well, there's a it's a it's a it's a conversation,

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Speaker 6: and it's conversation. Uh, Noel Max, that that we might

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Speaker 6: be interrupting. I believe producer Dave is setting up a thing.

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Speaker 3: It's true. Carry on, sir Dave, were you setting.

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Speaker 6: Up a thing?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Sorry? Are you guys done?

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Speaker 7: It's back to you.

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Speaker 3: And that's the what we keep talking. I keep talking over.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you what is ridiculous. Six hosts in

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Speaker 2: a tiny little box going toe to toe in an

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Speaker 2: attempt to determine which show reigns supreme. This is not

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Speaker 2: ridiculous Crime. It still may be a podcast about absurd

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Speaker 2: and outrageous capers, heys and cons. We'll just have to see.

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Speaker 2: This is also not ridiculous history. Welcome everyone, what we

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Speaker 2: have here is something extra special, as the presence of

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Speaker 2: all these voices will attest. This is a little something

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Speaker 2: we cooked up called twenty Ridiculous Questions. It's kind of

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Ben, if you will allow me, it's

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Speaker 2: the Ridiculous Beast with two backs, the history back and

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Speaker 2: the crime back. I don't know how that was.

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Speaker 4: Some sort of hybrid of all that that's also somehow

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Speaker 4: really sticky.

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Speaker 2: Before I continue, let's do introductions. So from Team Ridiculous

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Speaker 2: History we have Ben Bolan, Noel Brown and Max Williams.

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Speaker 2: Welcome one and all.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: How are we all doing today? Any any want to

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Speaker 2: give any speed, any last words.

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Speaker 6: I'm a big fan of Ridiculous Crime and want to

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Speaker 6: shout out that show in particular, which may be somewhat redundant,

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Speaker 6: but I'm not backing down from it, big fan, all right.

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Speaker 2: And from Team Ridiculous Crime we have Zaren Burnett, Elizabeth

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Speaker 2: Dutton and me KG.

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Speaker 6: Dave Houston. Hello, what's the what's the KG? Dave?

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Speaker 2: Oh? That's uh what Kyle gas from TENACIOUSD. He always

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Speaker 2: says me, KG.

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Speaker 3: It's me KG sucking up on them toes.

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Speaker 8: That's you got it doing? Some sea push boy Friend,

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Speaker 8: it sucks toes. Finally, here's the twenty twenty four now Friends.

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Speaker 8: As far as the game, the game Friends.

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Speaker 2: Is Pistols at Dawn, well Ben Ben wanted pistols at dawn.

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Speaker 2: Zaren wanted calculating pie to the most decimal places. That's right, No,

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Speaker 2: I think you wanted Bakara. I don't even know what

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Speaker 2: that is.

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Speaker 3: I don't know either. You guys know how to play Mancala,

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Speaker 3: that's the one.

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Speaker 5: I love that one.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I used to play strip Mancoa.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 9: It's one of those games where I don't fully understand

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Speaker 9: the rules. I just kind of somehow, I'm accidentally good

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Speaker 9: at it.

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Speaker 6: Zeron, I knew that was you man, Yeah right A

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Speaker 6: while lit a while.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So out of all these wonderful suggestions, we decided on

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Speaker 2: the game of twenty questions. More specifically, this is going

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Speaker 2: to be a game of twenty questions about historical flexes. Now,

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Speaker 2: keep me honest here. A historical flex is when someone

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Speaker 2: makes like a zag instead of a zig, some kind

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Speaker 2: and that maybe it brought on consequences. Is that accurate?

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Speaker 9: Or perhaps an absurdly ostentatious display of disgusting wealth.

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Speaker 6: You know yeah, yeah, for instance, like when uh, when

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Speaker 6: you are so wealthy that you trap you go on

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Speaker 7: Right Monteusas style.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yes, sir, Yeah see cloud outless moments.

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Speaker 3: We've actually done this.

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Speaker 9: Uh, a different version of this with Miles and Jack

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Speaker 9: from the Daily Zeit guys and Jack brought I think

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Speaker 9: one of my favorite historical flexes, which is the little

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Speaker 9: known fact that Charles Darwin ate every animal.

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Speaker 3: That he studied and documented.

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Speaker 5: That's disgusting.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, a flex may be not necessarily imbued with some

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Speaker 2: You know, ye exactly God.

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Speaker 4: Also, another fun note about Charles Darwin is when he

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Speaker 4: discovered the Glopagos tortoise, he looked at it and said,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to try to ride one.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm going to write it. Then I'm going to

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Darwin also a big foot fetish guy, little little known.

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Speaker 6: His day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, real Maverick, anyone here a big twenty questions player anyway,

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Speaker 2: Like got some tony question skills built up?

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Speaker 7: Oh, I play it on my phone against friends.

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Speaker 9: Yes, I only vaguely understand the concepts. I've never participated,

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Speaker 9: so I'm looking forward to hopefully getting to see you

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Speaker 9: guys do it right before I screw it up.

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Speaker 6: Most of my friends President Company excluded, are incredibly sketchy,

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Speaker 6: so every conversation is a bit like twenty questions. Well.

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Speaker 2: As far as where the game comes from, there's some

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Speaker 2: dispute as to where it originated, but the oldest reference

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Speaker 2: seems to be in eighteen twenty two, which was when

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Speaker 2: a Scottish teacher named William Fordyce Mavor Mavor Mavor who

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Speaker 2: knows who cares, offered it up as a way to

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Speaker 2: pass the time before TV and electricity and readily available

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Speaker 2: recreational drugs.

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Speaker 9: So for Dice like a street name because he carried

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Speaker 9: around for Dice in his pocket.

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Speaker 6: It was like his ancestors street name. He got normalized

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Speaker 3: An Yeah, okay, fair enough.

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Speaker 2: So then you fast forward like twenty years later it

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Speaker 2: shows up in the US, and then it took off

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Speaker 2: like wildfire. It even became a very popular quiz show

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Speaker 2: in nineteen forty nine. Unfortunately, so none of you can cheat.

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Speaker 2: Most of the episodes were lost when the studios wipe

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Speaker 2: the tape to use it again for something else, which

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Speaker 2: is outrageous, right, Like, so many beautiful live recordings have

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Speaker 5: Way, so many questions.

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Speaker 9: Was this the era of the Great Quiz Show scandals

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Speaker 9: where they were all like fixed earlier?

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Speaker 2: Little Yeah, yeah, but that one was like forty nine

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Speaker 2: to mid fifties essentially, so probably yeah, gets right in there.

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Speaker 4: I wonder if A. J. Jacobs is a fan of

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Speaker 4: this game.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure yeah, he probably has a book about it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, probably way better than anything you would write.

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Speaker 5: Dave, Do we have like rules regulations for this or

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Speaker 5: is this just the Wild West?

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Speaker 2: I am glad you asked that. Before we can rumble,

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Speaker 2: let's set some ground rules, all right, So the teams

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Speaker 2: are pretty clear, right, This is head to head, ridiculous

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Speaker 2: crime versus the ogs, the goats, ridiculous history, and score

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Speaker 2: will be kept just between those two entities. So ridiculous

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Speaker 2: crime versus ridiculous history. Each of us will take a

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Speaker 2: turn doing what we call being the flexer. And since

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Speaker 2: you can't see in the audience, I'll represent to you

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Speaker 2: that each one of us are doing our best bodybuilding

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Speaker 2: superposed right now to signify flex. That person takes a

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Speaker 2: historical flex in mind, a person that did something, and

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Speaker 2: then what they did. All three members of the other

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Speaker 2: show's team can question them until either they guess correctly

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Speaker 2: or their twenty questions run out, so they can ask

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Speaker 2: up to twenty questions. The questions can be yes or

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Speaker 2: no questions, and acceptable answers are yes, no, I don't know, maybe,

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Speaker 2: or you're so far off that you should really ask

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Speaker 2: a different kind of question.

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Speaker 3: Different generous yeah, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 2: So the team correctly guesses the historical figure who did

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Speaker 2: the flex, we will award them one point. If the

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Speaker 2: team is also able to guess what the flex itself is,

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Speaker 2: then it's at the discretion of the flexor. They can

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Speaker 2: award any amount of points additionally or no points, and

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Speaker 2: at the end of questioning, the flexer will reveal their

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Speaker 2: historical figure and the flex and tell us a little

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Speaker 2: bit about it. So that's how it's going to go.

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Speaker 3: Any questions, is there a flexi or just a flex or?

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Speaker 5: I think that the questioners are the flexi Yes, question.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, getting the term straight, I'm good.

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Speaker 6: Is there a time limit for the twenty questions?

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, we don't want to be here.

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Speaker 7: My next birthday next okay, Sara is your next birthday August?

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Speaker 6: But you know hey same yeah, same shout out.

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Speaker 7: Okay, good summer babies.

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Speaker 6: Yeah okay, So then we can we can just feel

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Speaker 2: That take the journey with me.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I want you to live your truth.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. You guys will be the first dave. You want

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Speaker 7: to go be the first flexer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. So the way this will go is

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Speaker 2: it'll be a round robin. Everybody will get a chance

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Speaker 2: to flex, and when one person's flexing, the three members

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Speaker 2: of the other team will get They all get to

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Speaker 2: ask questions. So, starting with me, we're going to start

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Speaker 2: the invisible clock that doesn't exist. Go ahead and guess

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Speaker 2: the historical flex I have in mind.

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Speaker 6: Question one, is this person alive?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 7: No?

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Speaker 6: Okay?

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Speaker 9: Was this person elected to some political office?

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Speaker 3: Man? Was this person born in America? United States for America?

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Speaker 2: Yes? So that's three.

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Speaker 4: That puts that puts the three questions, three questions.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, keeping count all along at home, as well, Thank you,

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Speaker 6: thank you, sered. Okay, did this person have siblings?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Good question? I am gonna need to check my notes

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Speaker 9: Well, I would argue that if you don't know, they

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, no they do not.

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Speaker 9: Was this person known for killing someone?

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Speaker 7: Shorthand? Uh no?

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Speaker 4: Why did you have to pause?

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Speaker 3: Think that would be a definitive yes or no?

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Speaker 6: A Max has got one, Mexic got one.

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Speaker 4: I don't have one. I'm counting the number I got

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Speaker 4: the question you can think, we want to question I

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Speaker 4: got the number? Are we are we allowed to discuss

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Speaker 4: amongst our.

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Speaker 2: Conversation?

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Speaker 6: That doesn't count as question six, though you get.

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Speaker 2: To ask question that's five more questions.

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Speaker 3: Genie rules.

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Speaker 4: For another wish?

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Speaker 6: I don't legal alignment?

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Speaker 3: All right, we got then?

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Speaker 6: Well I'm thinking, okay, so is this person known for

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Speaker 6: a single historic act? No?

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Speaker 9: Right, no, guys, sorry, was this person in uh films?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Was this person born in the nineteen hundreds.

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Speaker 2: The nineteen hundreds?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll even give you the date, nineteen fifteen.

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Speaker 9: Okay, okay, Charlie Chaplin, no is that?

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Speaker 6: Sorry?

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Speaker 4: No, No, they're letting us back because I was.

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Speaker 6: Thinking the same thing. Okay, Uh so is this person

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Speaker 7: Okay, so we're calling that your ninth question. If that

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Speaker 7: if Knowles was reeled back, Okay, it was really good.

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Speaker 3: Thank you very gracious.

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Speaker 9: Is this person mainly known for being a star of film.

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Speaker 2: It's a tough call. I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 6: Oh, okay, is this uh uh?

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Speaker 3: Keep?

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Speaker 6: Does this person identify male?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Did since they were deceased?

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Speaker 6: Did since they were dead? Okay? Did? No?

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Speaker 4: Sorry? Sorry, Max, you gotta give us one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, internal discussion. Is it Howard Hughes?

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Speaker 4: So let's see it's not what well, so it's not filmed.

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Speaker 3: They were in film though you said they were in films.

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Speaker 4: And it put us and put us somewhere like this.

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Speaker 4: I looked up Humphrey Bogart. That was eighteen hundred and.

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Speaker 6: No looking at stuff up?

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Speaker 2: Where was that?

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Speaker 4: That was? No, you're gonna.

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Speaker 3: Phones phones phones faced down?

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Speaker 4: We are we are a show built around research. I researched.

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Speaker 9: It was Yeah, run Dave said that this person is

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Speaker 9: not known exclusively for being film stars, so it wouldn't

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Speaker 9: be a Bogart type figure. Howard Hughes type figure is interesting,

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Speaker 9: but he wasn't in films.

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Speaker 3: He just directed.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, I got by the way.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know at all.

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Speaker 9: Until I watched The Aviator for the first time recently,

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Speaker 9: which is a very good film.

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Speaker 7: Okay, he was an innovator of films, like he.

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Speaker 9: Really did all kinds of crazy stuff, and he was

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Speaker 9: he articulously clean.

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Speaker 2: For a while, like tissue boxes.

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Speaker 7: And jars.

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Speaker 6: Okay, was this male historical figure also active in the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, that's question twelve.

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Speaker 6: Okay, Question twelve, thank you?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 6: So yes, So I'm thinking then, was this person someone

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Speaker 6: with ties to organized crime?

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Speaker 2: Question thirteen reputedly?

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Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, we got seven questions left you guys. Oh

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Speaker 6: oh yeah, Max, ask.

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Speaker 4: Is this person Frank Sinatra?

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Speaker 7: Yes, questions I came.

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Speaker 4: Is fun y'all.

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Speaker 6: Wow, Okay, we haven't guessed the flex.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So for an unnamed amount of additional points, can

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Speaker 2: you guess the flex that I have in mind right now?

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Speaker 9: That's how life was kind of a flex. That guy was.

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Speaker 6: Super problematic flexes too.

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Speaker 9: Let's see, I don't know if I know of one

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Speaker 9: that I would have associate with the idea of what

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Speaker 9: we're talking about.

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Speaker 6: Word winning musicians in street name Old Blue Eyes.

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Speaker 9: Is it something to do with with with us with

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Speaker 9: like luxury type of situation?

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Speaker 2: We're no longer in twenty questions?

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Speaker 3: How can we?

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Speaker 4: How can we possibly?

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Speaker 6: We just have to know everything about Frank I guess.

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Speaker 5: Take a guess.

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Speaker 4: It's sort of like, did he have a freakishly large

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Speaker 4: penis that he needed additional space in his pants?

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Speaker 7: So then.

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Speaker 4: What better guess do y'all have?

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Speaker 6: Was he was he involved in some sort of government operation?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but that is not the flex.

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Speaker 3: That wouldn't be.

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Speaker 6: We just want to hear we don't know, Yeah, what's

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Speaker 6: the flex?

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Speaker 2: The flex is Francis Albert Sinatra did his own stunts

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Speaker 2: in Manchurian Candidate, and as a result either broke his

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Speaker 2: hand or his wrist, and then he couldn't play Dirty

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Speaker 2: Harry Harry Callahan in the Dirty Harry movies.

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Speaker 9: What I didn't know he was in the Manchurian Candidate.

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Speaker 9: I never think of Sinatra as being an actor at all.

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Speaker 3: Really.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, also a bunch of movies he wanted to cdemy.

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Speaker 4: I had no idea.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, isn't it funny how sometimes you can just really

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Speaker 9: have like a blind spot for like certain things. I mean,

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Speaker 9: you know, we we researched and talk about stuff like

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Speaker 9: this all the time, and I just zero awareness that

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Speaker 9: Sinatra was in movies.

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Speaker 6: I also propose a port banteau if we're if we're interested,

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Speaker 6: this is a flex A had consequences for Old Blue Eyes,

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Speaker 6: So what if we call that a flexequence.

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Speaker 2: He's very flexiquent. Yeah, a little bit more color. So

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Speaker 2: if you've seen the movie, Uh, he smashes his hand

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Speaker 2: onto a table, and that was really him smashing his

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Speaker 2: hand onto a table. Nancy Sinatra says he broke his finger.

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Speaker 2: Other sources say he broke his wrist, but they all

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Speaker 2: agree that it never healed right. And so he was

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Speaker 2: actually attached to the first Dirty Harry movie for six months.

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Speaker 2: And he gets in and they show him the three

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Speaker 2: fifty seven magnum and he picks it up.

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Speaker 4: That's a big gun man, yeah.

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Speaker 2: And he says, and Zaren will do a better Old

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Speaker 2: Blue Eye than me, but he's like, I'm afraid it's

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Speaker 2: a little too big for my hands. I did find

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Speaker 2: a quote from Eastwood to confirming this, because I wanted

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Speaker 2: to make sure this wasn't a bunch of bs. Eastwood said,

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Speaker 2: I was in post production on play Misty for me,

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Speaker 2: and they called up and asked, are you still interested?

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Speaker 2: In Dirty Harry, Eastwood recalled, I said, what happened to

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Speaker 2: Frank Sinatra? And they said, Frank Sinatra's got some problem

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Speaker 2: with his hand and he can't hold a gun. That

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Speaker 2: sounded like a pretty lame excuse, but it didn't matter

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Speaker 2: to me. I said, I'll do it. But since they

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Speaker 2: had initially talked to me, there had been all these rewrites.

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Speaker 2: I said, I'm only interested in the original script.

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Speaker 3: That's a flex and another.

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Speaker 9: I actually saw Dirty Harry for the first time recently

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Speaker 9: and again Blind Spot. I had no idea how tied

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Speaker 9: to the Zodiac Killer. Yeah, and it's sort of featured

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Speaker 9: in Zodiac in the Fincher movie. They go to like

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Speaker 9: the premiere and then some of the detectives are like, guys,

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Speaker 9: it's over.

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Speaker 3: They already made the movie about it.

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Speaker 5: Well, and there was some talk in the local, like

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Speaker 5: in the scene, that maybe this would draw him out

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Speaker 5: for more communications because there had been a gap.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you guys are in Zodiac country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and when Sinatra couldn't do it, they're really scrambling

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Speaker 2: and so yeah. A couple other actors turned it down

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Speaker 2: because it was like all too weird and conservative for them,

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Speaker 2: like Steve McQueen was also approached for it, and he

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Speaker 2: was like, I already did a detective movie and this

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Speaker 2: is doesn't fit with my with my feels.

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Speaker 5: Can you imagine the Steve McQueen dirty Harry movie.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine a Frank Sinatra.

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Speaker 6: Part of me is now always going to be a

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Speaker 6: little bit imagining the Steve McQueen.

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Speaker 5: Dirty Oh yeah, totally.

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Speaker 6: I'm just caring that.

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Speaker 3: Now. I need to see Bullet.

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Speaker 5: Have you guys seen Li Yeah, a couple of years

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Speaker 5: ago on the big screen.

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Speaker 7: Yes, one of my favorite movies of all time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was amazing, the chase scene on a big screen.

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Speaker 7: The sound is engines.

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Speaker 5: If you ever see it playing like at an art

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Speaker 7: Go watch it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, really like Drive. So I think Drive was highly inspired.

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Speaker 7: By pretty much every car chase since nineteen sixty nine

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Speaker 7: has been inspired by Bullet.

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Speaker 4: Too true, Too True.

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Speaker 6: We also we did not get our wild card point

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Speaker 6: for people playing a log at home. We had check

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Speaker 6: me your's eron. It took us fourteen of our twenty

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Speaker 6: questions to yeah to nail Nail Old Blue Eyes aka

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Speaker 6: Frank A. Sinatra for a grand total of if you

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Speaker 6: could get a drum roll one point.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Paul, I.

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Speaker 5: Do want to point out that I, you know, was

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Speaker 5: suggested that maybe half a point if you if you guess,

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Speaker 5: and then I was like, I just no rules. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: so it's just whatever soul be.

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Speaker 9: Rewarded for guessing and fewer questions. That just feels, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, well, we can start where everyone starts with negative twenty.

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Speaker 7: Pride. It's like you can just coact like, you know,

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Speaker 7: we got ours and fourteen too, you guys night.

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Speaker 5: Well maybe the team with the lowest number score gets

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Speaker 5: that low score, low questions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's up to your discretion. You could give five

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Speaker 2: hundred points.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. We can also just m PR p rriot and

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Speaker 6: just you know, sort of like wait, wait, don't tell me,

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Speaker 6: just kind of have a good time.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Zaren will you will you will you leave an

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Speaker 9: outgoing message on my answering machine.

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Speaker 2: As I just got a text. It's from sponsors. They

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Speaker 2: want us to take a break, oh.

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Speaker 6: Like as people are as a show.

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Speaker 2: Just both Yeah, they said, hang it up, this isn't working,

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Speaker 2: so let's do that and when we get back we

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Speaker 2: will have been as the next flexer.

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Speaker 6: And we have returned. Folks as always, thank you for

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Speaker 6: joining us. This is this is round two. We're in

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Speaker 6: the Luminaries of Ridiculous Crime. We'll have twenty questions to

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Speaker 6: guess an historical flexer, and perhaps indeed they're flex Now,

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna be honest, there is a weird one because

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Speaker 6: you guys are experts, so I couldn't make it like

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Speaker 6: too too easy. I'll start off by saying it is

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Speaker 6: not carrot top.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, scratching out furiously.

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Speaker 7: Oh, let's see for a first question, Elizabeth, you like

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Speaker 7: you're the first ones. All right. The first question is

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Speaker 7: is the was this person an American?

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Speaker 6: Uh?

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Speaker 5: Yes, lived in America, lived in America? Gentle preezing there.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I'm very mpr with these.

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Speaker 5: Was this person alive to see baseball?

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Speaker 9: Yes, like professional baseball or just like stickball in the alley.

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Speaker 6: Some form of baseball?

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Speaker 2: What about plastic?

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Speaker 6: Give me just a second on that one. Let me

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Speaker 6: go back through my notes. That's a good question. I

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Speaker 6: got to learn more about plastic. I'm gonna say no, not.

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Speaker 2: Call it the graduate the way we know it. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: okay too.

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Speaker 5: Well, if we're talking about.

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Speaker 7: Plastics, are basically World War two, so being yeah, between

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Speaker 7: the eighth nineteen nineteenth century and up to nineteen thirties.

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Speaker 5: Well, vacolate was early day.

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Speaker 7: No, that's the beginning of plastics.

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Speaker 2: Ask about wealth?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, go ahead, Dave, you got a shot? Dave?

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Speaker 2: Uh did the I don't want to I don't want

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Speaker 2: to throw away my shot. Was this person part of

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Speaker 2: the elite wealth class?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 7: Okay? Was this person born in Europe?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 5: Born in Europe? American citizen ballpark range of No, put enchanted?

454
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 5: What years?

455
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 2: We say we.

456
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 7: Don't have a front end, we'd have a back end.

457
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 7: Was this was this person alive before the camera? It

458
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 7: was invented in eighteen thirty nine?

459
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 6: Yes, okay?

460
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 7: Was this person they lived a long time. If they

461
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 7: made it to plastic, right, they didn't though, Oh so plastic.

462
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 6: They got plastic as we on the other side.

463
00:24:48,040 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 5: Oh, okay, okay, okay. Was this person famous for their knowledge?

464
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 6: Could you be more specific?

465
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 5: Was this person a scientist?

466
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 6: No?

467
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 5: No?

468
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 2: Was this person a military leader?

469
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 6: Also?

470
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 5: No?

471
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 7: Was this person a woman?

472
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 3: Yes?

473
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 6: Mmm, so this will be questioned ten?

474
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 2: Yes, correct, we have nine so far, and we have

475
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: I've got it narrowed down to two people, so this

476
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 2: should be easy.

477
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 5: Was this person controversial in her day?

478
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 6: Yes? Ja yeah, that was a good one.

479
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 5: Uh zerond have a question?

480
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 7: Was this was this woman associated with a political movement?

481
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 6: I'm a not really no, no, Noel Max. Would you

482
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 6: guys be comfortable say no on that one? Just to

483
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 6: check me here?

484
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I would be comfortable. I forgot who who

485
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 3: you have? So great?

486
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 7: Great good?

487
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 5: But whatever it is, sure this is this is a

488
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 5: peculiar one.

489
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 7: We've got nine guesses left.

490
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 5: Okay, so what with our parameters? We're talking about a

491
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 5: woman born.

492
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 7: In Europe, becomes an American and was alive in the

493
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 7: nineteenth century.

494
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 5: Controversial, butsal Was this person an entertainer?

495
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 6: No? No, I mean this is to be clear, this

496
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 6: is a bit of a tough one. One hint I

497
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 6: would give you is this is an excellent subject for

498
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 6: an episode of something like Ridiculous Crime, slightly deep cut figure.

499
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 7: Cut figure criminal pop possibly or overlapping with crime.

500
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 5: I am having a how many questions have we had

501
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 5: so far?

502
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 7: When we've done twelve questions? That would be thirteenth question.

503
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about asking about whether they were convicted of

504
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: federal charges.

505
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 5: Or any charges federal or state.

506
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 6: We'll go with that, okay, yeah, yes, uh convicted and

507
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 6: I'll help you out here because this is a tough one.

508
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 6: Convicted and then ultimately fled the US.

509
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 7: Hm hmm.

510
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 5: I'm having a hard time on this one.

511
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 7: This is very this person married to a fame, anybody

512
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 7: famous or that we would know by name.

513
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 6: M m no, No, she's sort of the protagonist. I

514
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 6: think your story.

515
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 5: Okay, not an entertainer.

516
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 7: Did this person do any violence in their lifetime? Any

517
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 7: like notable violence?

518
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 3: I would say ordered.

519
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 6: It, yes, yes, but not directly perhaps, right.

520
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 9: That should be a decent hint. What kind of figures

521
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 9: order of violence?

522
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 7: Mob boss? Crime figure like you know?

523
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 5: Well, I'm still I have a guess, and one of

524
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 5: the questions knocked my guess out, but I'm still it

525
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 5: lines up. And do you know if it's someone that

526
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 5: we've talked about on Ridiculous Crime?

527
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 6: Is that a question? I looked. I looked, but I'm

528
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 6: not sure we can we can count that we can

529
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 6: count that as a procedural one.

530
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 5: Five questions left.

531
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 6: And also, by the way, already got a half point

532
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 6: with mob boss because it's a tough.

533
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 5: One, oh mos mob Okay.

534
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 6: Since I can just give away.

535
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 5: Gave you the birth year of Frank Sinatra, so that

536
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 5: was helpful.

537
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 7: Let's see mob boss women order and had to leave America.

538
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 5: So are we guessing its Italian Russian combatation, Yeah, Colombian.

539
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 7: We said they were born in Europe.

540
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 6: But this is that was just a really cool a

541
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 6: sm R moment.

542
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 3: I've got the tangles.

543
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 5: Okay, so I'm thinking, okay, possibly Italian. Yeah, I mean

544
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 5: no offense, not to pay with a broad brush.

545
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 6: Of course.

546
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,560
Speaker 7: But then also we have to keep in mind that

547
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 7: there were a lot of British and French criminals who

548
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 7: would have MOB qualified mob.

549
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, mob might be a little broad.

550
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 5: Irish British woman.

551
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 6: Maybe like gang boss gang boss.

552
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 7: So I could think famous or semi famous gang bosses

553
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 7: the nineteenth century who were born in Europe, born in America.

554
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 7: Went back, Did this woman have sons?

555
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 3: Oh? I believe there was some family, Like.

556
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 7: The son's part of her legend, Like the sons are

557
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 7: important to who she was.

558
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 6: The sons are not part of where you're going.

559
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 7: For less.

560
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 6: Yeah.

561
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, so she committed, she orders a crime, orders crimes done,

562
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 5: and then has to flee back to Europe. And we're

563
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 5: talking about turn of the century, it's.

564
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: Gonna be Russian, like a white Russian.

565
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 6: Who knows.

566
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 7: I mean, it was difficult, so yeah, I think in

567
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 7: British is my I'm leaning more British than anything. Yeah.

568
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, not to be a wet blanket.

569
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 9: But I would argue that if you can't think of

570
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 9: the person now, you might not know the name off

571
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 9: the top of your head.

572
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: Questions.

573
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 5: I thought it would be Dave.

574
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 7: You got anyone to we want to pair it down

575
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 7: a little bit. We got four questions.

576
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 2: Let's see. I would say, you know, I don't have

577
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: good guesses. So it's I'm just like with the parameters, like.

578
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 5: I, hmm, all right.

579
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 7: The people the person that she allegedly ordered stuff done too?

580
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 7: Were they also famous? Would we know them?

581
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 6: Uh? They would often be uh some of the uh,

582
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 6: some of the better off people in New York.

583
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 5: Can I take a swing at this?

584
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: Sure?

585
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 5: Is it? Emma Goldman?

586
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 6: Oh? No, it is not.

587
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 5: The only thing that doesn't fit ordering violence? No, she

588
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 5: that was her whole thing. She ordered violence. The only

589
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 5: thing that doesn't fit is gang. And I thought, well,

590
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 5: if you talk about.

591
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 7: I mean, she didn't she instructed and urged violence. I

592
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 7: don't think she ordered. She did not directly to it.

593
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 7: She didn't tell like, hey, Steve, come over here, hit

594
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 7: that person, were like, go to their door, knock.

595
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 4: On their door.

596
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 5: When she them go after the mill people, she specifically had, Okay.

597
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 7: All right, I'll give you that.

598
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: It's the game within a game, you know what.

599
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 6: You know what I'd like to do if the group

600
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 6: is okay with it, I would like to say, Emma Goldman,

601
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 6: is such such an astute, wonderful answer. It is not,

602
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 6: in fact this person, but this person is again a

603
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 6: very difficult uh bit of a deep cut.

604
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 10: Uh.

605
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go ahead and give the full point just

606
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 6: because this one was so tough. And your guess is I.

607
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 11: Don't all right, mob but gang gang.

608
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 7: Also, because I'm a Golden I would say it was

609
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 7: associated with political movies. That's why I asked that question. Yeah,

610
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 7: I think, like, who do you like union movements that

611
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,479
Speaker 7: aren't political or like labors?

612
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 5: There? Everything's political elephants, right, you know, forty elephants were

613
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 5: totally a gang, but they're not purely and they weren't

614
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 5: never in the US.

615
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 9: They were never, but.

616
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 7: That type of mob boss would be something. Yeah, So

617
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 7: we got two guesses came to America, probably in New York.

618
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 7: They were in New York trying to do violence. So

619
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 7: who and who are the New York we got, like Queenie,

620
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 7: we've got.

621
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 5: Well, if you're talking about gangs before the twenty and

622
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 5: gangs in those times were pretty much relegated to cultural groups, yes, nationality.

623
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 9: So we're almost like a Fagin type figure, you know,

624
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 9: background in like textiles, ran the shop from like kind

625
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 9: of like a you know, ran the business, the illegal business.

626
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 7: All right, I got was it Sadie the goat Farrell?

627
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 7: Sadie Ferre said, the goat Farrell.

628
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 6: I don't know, no, no, but no, but I'm loving it.

629
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 10: Question.

630
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 3: I don't know.

631
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 7: Guys, all right, we got we got one last guest?

632
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 7: Who wants to take it? Dave? Youre feeling hot?

633
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,919
Speaker 2: I got kiss?

634
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't have anything for this one.

635
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: Was it Rose? Was their first name?

636
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 7: Rose?

637
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 6: No, but I like that shot from half court.

638
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 7: We can see this.

639
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 3: You got it is a pretty good old lady name. Though.

640
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 6: Half point because this was so tough, and because purely

641
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:52,240
Speaker 6: fellow ridiculous listeners at home. A half point purely because

642
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 6: of the absolute top notch caliber of questions here The

643
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 6: person we were looking for was someone named Marm Mandelbaumb

644
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 6: Frederica Marm Mandelbaumb. I know I'm doing trivia voice there,

645
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 6: but so Mandelbaum Mandelbaumb. It's very interesting that history has

646
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 6: largely forgotten this quite successful criminal she.

647
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 2: Ran.

648
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 6: She ran one of New York's biggest fencing operations from

649
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 6: like from eighteen sixty two to eighteen sixty four. She

650
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 6: was also she had other gangs that she was fighting with,

651
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 6: but she was helping coordinate things like the Ocean National

652
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 6: Bank robbery. She was also she was born in Germany.

653
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 6: We don't know too much about her early life because, surprise, surprise,

654
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 6: she was a little bit sketchy. She made it. She

655
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 6: made it to the US with her family or with

656
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 6: her husband, Wolf Mandelborb, who he's kind of Bolf as

657
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 6: sort of a milk toast in this story. But she

658
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 6: gets there. She gets to the US in eighteen fifty

659
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 6: and she has a dry goods store, so she has

660
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 6: a legitimate operation, and as a small business owner, she

661
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 6: has the opportunity to turn stuff around. Part of the

662
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 6: reason why Poal Noel is saying she's a fake and

663
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 6: esque character is because she started a school she institutionalized

664
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 6: teaching kids how to be na'er do wells at a

665
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 6: pickpocket pick a pocket, So no murder involved with her.

666
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 6: She did end up being arrested because she just got

667
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 6: out of hand. She just blew up in the big

668
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 6: Apple so much that eventually, you know, the New York

669
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 6: District attorney was like, hey, we got a higher the

670
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 6: Pinkiton's the pinks?

671
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness.

672
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 6: Yeah. So she gets released on bail after she's arrested

673
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 6: with your points Aer and her sons, her son Julius,

674
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 6: and then another guy's working for named Herman. Once she

675
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 6: gets released on bail, she does exactly what everybody thought

676
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 6: she would do. She high tails it out of the

677
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 6: United States. She's skidaddles with one million dollars in eighteen

678
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 6: eighty four and settles in Hamilton, Ontario. Shout out to

679
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 6: your reference about throwing away the shot Dave, where she

680
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 6: remains until she passes away ten years later. So I think,

681
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 6: as a fan of ridiculous crime, I thought this would

682
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 6: be like a great episode.

683
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, excellent, definitely, definitely.

684
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 3: Ben would the would the Flex be the pickpocket school?

685
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 7: What would you?

686
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 11: Oh?

687
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 6: Yes, thank you? The Flex is the Pickpocket School.

688
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 7: I love that she started basically an elementary school to

689
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 7: teach thieving and street crime. I mean, yeah, she's like

690
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 7: Mother Marshmallow, but instead she just like, come under my

691
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 7: dress and I will teach you crime and take care

692
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 7: of your children. Let's go man man.

693
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 9: She often referred to as mother, Mandel mom or marmah.

694
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 6: Yeah.

695
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 5: And you guys haven't ever mentioned her on your shows? Right?

696
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 6: We had a show called on another show we do

697
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 6: called stuff they don't want you to know. We we explored,

698
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 6: we explored her life, and we sort of put it

699
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 6: under the umbrella of conspiracy. God did conspire to start

700
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 6: like oh yeah, crime elementary you know?

701
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 5: Wow, wowie, wow, wow, that's amazing.

702
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: You know what, I think this party could use.

703
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 7: What's that day?

704
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 2: Some really good ads like oh yeah, I got some

705
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: in the oven.

706
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 3: Excellent flex those ads.

707
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 5: All right, guys, we're back twenty questions. So what's our

708
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 5: score now?

709
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: Is I got it?

710
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 7: Is two to half?

711
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 5: Two to half? Okay?

712
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 6: Oh I thought I had a.

713
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 7: Point because you rocked us beat us.

714
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that's only one point.

715
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, and they got Frank Sinatra, so that's two points.

716
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 5: Yeah.

717
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 2: No, the Frank Sinatra is one. If they guessed his

718
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 2: flex that would have been another.

719
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, so then we did not get their answer, right,

720
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 7: so they get one point for that.

721
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

722
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: Oh I have it as like you only get points

723
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: when you're guessing.

724
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, they got They get points for traditionally twenty questions.

725
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 7: If you stump the person, you get a point. So

726
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 7: for stumping us, they should get a point. I would say,

727
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 7: so it would be two to half according to.

728
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 5: My And then we got the pity point five.

729
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, that he gave us the pinion.

730
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 6: It was not a pity point five.

731
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 7: We're trying to find a way to give it back,

732
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 7: but we appreciate it.

733
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 6: I like how. I also like how we're all out

734
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 6: nice and each other.

735
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 4: Ben try to give you all a full point and

736
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 4: y'all said, no, we're not thinking any taking point, and

737
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 4: then you settle for having on the record right here.

738
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 2: I mean, if you wanted to profligate with points, sure, absolutely,

739
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: Like what are my main of points?

740
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 6: Well, we we're all being nice now, but we may

741
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 6: encounter we may encounter quite a plot twist and turn,

742
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 6: depending on how Max Noll and I do.

743
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,919
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's gonna get ugly. All right, So I've

744
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 5: got that, I've got this in my head, and I

745
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 5: am ready for questions.

746
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm counting questions here. Uh, let's go with this.

747
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 6: Uh does this individual identify as male?

748
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 5: Yes?

749
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: Is it George Washington? I'm kidding.

750
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 9: It was just a call back to yes. What Okay?

751
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 9: Was this person uh a elected official?

752
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 5: No?

753
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, okay.

754
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 4: Was this person born in the nineteen hundreds?

755
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 5: Yes? No, sorry I was seeing nineteenth century? No?

756
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, okay, okay, we know that. Now, okay. Is

757
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 6: this person known for scientific breakthroughs?

758
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 5: No?

759
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 4: It's this person a criminal?

760
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 10: Uh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay, I'm going to

761
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 10: put yes, but with an audible Are.

762
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 3: You keeping a spreadsheet? Ben?

763
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 5: I do want to I do want to just have

764
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 5: one captain, please qualify that all of your questions have

765
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 5: made one assumption that is dear, but go ahead.

766
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 6: One assumption that is incorrect.

767
00:41:58,840 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 4: This is a person?

768
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 6: Yeah? I think that would be because looking back through

769
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 6: the rules.

770
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 7: Is that is that is that a question?

771
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: Max? Could the assumption be well, I don't know.

772
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm just I'm just telling you.

773
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 4: Is I think the assumption is that that can they

774
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 4: be not a person. They could be historical.

775
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 6: It could be they specifically put creature into the room.

776
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 5: And there's another assumption. Think of you came in, you

777
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 5: came in with some implicit biases.

778
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, my mind is running wild.

779
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 9: Is is this uh figure a famous animal spy?

780
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 5: No?

781
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 3: Damn it?

782
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 6: I like, uh, okay, I should have just asked it

783
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 6: was an Is this figure a human being? Will burn

784
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 6: that one? Just to get a clear Okay, great, there

785
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 6: we go.

786
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 7: So I have you guys had seven questions asked?

787
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 6: Yes, okay, this will be our eighth question.

788
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 9: So does that mean okay, a criminal though a non

789
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 9: human criminal.

790
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 6: They're like, don't we.

791
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 4: Have stories that are pasted about like goats and stuff

792
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 4: being arrested as like we had an animal personhood episode

793
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 4: which unfortunately I was also on vacation one. Yeah, no

794
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 4: help on that episode.

795
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 5: Coincident.

796
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 4: President just gone on that one. But I remember we

797
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 4: had that episode about all the animals that committed crimes?

798
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 6: Was this individual creature? Was this creature of mammal?

799
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 5: Yes?

800
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, probably?

801
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 6: Okay, is this that elephant that got electrocuted?

802
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 9: I was thinking that jumpo, No, no, no.

803
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 7: You mean like by Edison, like when you went edge.

804
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 6: Yeah, when he was trying to hype up the Yeah,

805
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 6: what a terrible guy that What dude was.

806
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: How can an animal be a criminal?

807
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 7: Lots of ways.

808
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 3: An accomplice.

809
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 7: Perhaps that's one.

810
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 9: Way trained like the count internal convo, this internal discussion.

811
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 9: H're welcome, Just feed us some good intel while you're

812
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:30,919
Speaker 9: in here.

813
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 4: Jesus.

814
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 7: They walk across the set. Stand there, I'm on the

815
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 7: Jenkins family.

816
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:43,439
Speaker 6: Now there's another implicit assumption that we haven't tackled. There's

817
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,760
Speaker 6: a second when we didn't get you guys, uh, which

818
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 6: is let's see a creatures.

819
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 3: So we got that aquatic they actually.

820
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 2: Mamal it was on earth. I'll give you that han.

821
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 4: Water dwelling.

822
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 5: Oh is that your question? Yeah, it is not a

823
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 5: water dwelling, not a water not a water dweller.

824
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 9: That's question ted land mammal. So what do we got here?

825
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 9: What what kind of land mammals are capable of doing?

826
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 4: Cron So we have Lomas, I'll pack.

827
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 6: Up name them all.

828
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 4: She sure, Yeah, we can ask if it's that, we

829
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 4: could ask. And so this is just amongst us. If

830
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 4: it's a new world or an old world monkey.

831
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 6: The term new world's kind of problem.

832
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I can't.

833
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 4: Pay, we won't ask that.

834
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 9: I'm picturing the murderous ape from that Edgar Allan post

835
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 9: or murders in the room wort spoiler alert.

836
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 3: It was an ape.

837
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 4: For some reason, I just had I've had a dog

838
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 4: in my head this entire time.

839
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 6: But yeah, oh okay, yeah, let's just let's burn a couple.

840
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 6: Getting closer to the type of animal. Is it a primate?

841
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 5: No?

842
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 6: No, all right, helpful, It's not a Pepperino elephants?

843
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 7: Did you say Pepperino? Is that a question?

844
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 3: Popperino a dog?

845
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 10: Yes?

846
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, it is?

847
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 4: Okay, yes, how many questions?

848
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 6: We're at twelve thirteen questions?

849
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 7: That thirteenth coming?

850
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 9: Wasn't there that dog that was shot into space? Yees, like,

851
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 9: that's way different?

852
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 6: Is way different?

853
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 4: Well this is eighteen hundreds.

854
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and technically that's not across the crime was done.

855
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 5: It was a victag like it.

856
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 7: Was that was just trespassing in space.

857
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 4: So it's a dog that did some sort of crime.

858
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 4: But we also have an assumption that we were forgetting

859
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 4: about that.

860
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 5: I can't remember an additional assumption that.

861
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 4: We have not address.

862
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 7: I got it, I got him done.

863
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 6: On like a fourteen ah ah, that's all right fine,

864
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 6: even though we we established it was the eighteen nine.

865
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 3: But there's nothing just screaming to my right now, is it?

866
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 5: Do you want to hint?

867
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 2: I think we should get me.

868
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, you have mentioned my flexer on your show. Wow,

869
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 5: the words have passed your lips.

870
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 7: So you guys have said this out loud?

871
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 4: Is this?

872
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 6: Uh? Wait? Internal conversation? Personal? Did we already ask about America?

873
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 5: Oh?

874
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think did we don't know?

875
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 4: I'm totally down to pull up our comprehensive metal sheet. Right,

876
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 4: we're not doing that? Okay, No, I won't tell you

877
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 4: that I'm doing it.

878
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 9: No, you already game away, Max, don't don't, don't, don't

879
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 9: be like it's not funny.

880
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 7: I'm competitive.

881
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 4: It so much more fun. When we did not established that,

882
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 4: then I feel like we did.

883
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 3: We should remember. If we don't remember, not useless.

884
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 6: We did not. The reason we feel like we established

885
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 6: Americas because we we had the American quick question on

886
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 6: George Washington words.

887
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 3: Yes, picturing a European dog for some reason?

888
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 6: Is it a vegetable dog?

889
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:13,839
Speaker 7: What's vegetable dog? Like a dog?

890
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 5: Brain like dole traumatic brain injury, like.

891
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 6: So like the it's a it's a terrible practice where

892
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 6: they had to where they made dogs live turning spits

893
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:25,399
Speaker 6: to cook meat.

894
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 7: No, no, no, it's not a vegetable dog.

895
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 5: No, I'm going to charge you two questions? Oh, I.

896
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 7: Fourteen questions? You've got six left?

897
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: Do you just walk around with your brain?

898
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 7: Right?

899
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 2: What's your fifteenth guess?

900
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 3: I am hitting over.

901
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 4: We had that episode, guys, with that two part episode

902
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 4: we did about hero animals.

903
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 9: But this is a criminal who knows why.

904
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 7: Can't a criminal? And he would be the same person

905
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 7: episodes are hero Robin is a criminal.

906
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 6: Who is mean what I'm saying, Yeah, same with Cara tops.

907
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 4: Unfortunately for that episode of all I can remember is

908
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 4: the Hero cats. So I'm no help here. Oh but I.

909
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,280
Speaker 5: Didn't, I didn't answer that question.

910
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 7: What I'm saying, Ben, you got anything hand up?

911
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:17,479
Speaker 6: Was this? Was this?

912
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 10: Uh?

913
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 6: Was this unfortunate dog o arrested by political authorities?

914
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 5: Yes? All political? What do you mean define political? Like

915
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 5: elected officials or like I.

916
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 7: Would say they were elected, they were arrested by the authority. Yes,

917
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 7: in the traditional sense of what we would assume that means.

918
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I don't know.

919
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 6: Idea because I was thinking, no, Max, I was thinking,

920
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 6: was it ecclesiastical authorities or something like that.

921
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 7: No, this is not an excommunicated dog.

922
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 4: No, was this like a Joan of archetype dog?

923
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 6: You know, heretic dog? You know what I mean.

924
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 4: I'm just going to say, I'm pretty certain it's one

925
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 4: of the animals we talked about in that two part episode.

926
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 5: Is probably do you want to ask that a question?

927
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:15,960
Speaker 4: This is internal, internal, completely comfortable.

928
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 6: We got a chair for you.

929
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 7: This is sorry, sorry, what am I doing?

930
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 6: So?

931
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 7: Dave? Going back?

932
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 4: Unfortunately I can't remember all the animals we talked about.

933
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 4: I remember our whole second part was just about that

934
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 4: cat that lived on the boat.

935
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 3: Uh, I don't know.

936
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 5: Give you another head?

937
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 4: Well no, I'm talking about the whole episode.

938
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 5: Give you another head.

939
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 6: Yes, okay, okay, that's not the episode.

940
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 5: To save you some time.

941
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 6: That is actually very wonderful.

942
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:48,840
Speaker 5: Thank you, You're very welcome.

943
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 3: Okay, I got nothing and also with you more questions, more.

944
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 4: Questions, questions.

945
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 6: We have five one right, now, go go.

946
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 4: What is I the producer of Ridiculous History? When we

947
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 4: talked about this animal?

948
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 5: Oh?

949
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 4: Because it would be April twenty twenty one when it

950
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 4: became twenty one twenty one.

951
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, Max, you were the producer.

952
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 7: Okay, four questions.

953
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 4: Okay, it gives us down to three hundred episodes.

954
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 6: Wow all the time? Barks all right.

955
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 3: I don't know, guys. I don't want to burn any

956
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 3: more questions. I feel like I've.

957
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 7: Kind of dogs dogs. You guys know dogs. You like

958
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 7: dogs that impress you dogs. I like your fear.

959
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 4: That's a problem. I like every dog.

960
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 7: Sorry, am I, you're not helping you.

961
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 4: I like every dog.

962
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 7: I bet you they moved the table this time?

963
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 6: Is it?

964
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 7: No?

965
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 6: Because Noel, you already asked about Spike or trade craft?

966
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 4: I did.

967
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, never mind, I'm cursing now.

968
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 3: I'm pounding my fists on my desk.

969
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 6: Very quistics the.

970
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 7: He's going to get another part?

971
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know.

972
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 7: Guys.

973
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 6: Do you want to do you want to call it?

974
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 6: I feel like our guesses are good, but.

975
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 4: Don't guys, what's some hell? Mag I don't feel too bad.

976
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 5: About being obscure, seeing as how you've said it before.

977
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 4: No, No, that's fair, that's fair.

978
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 9: Would this dog be considered after the actions that took place,

979
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 9: some sort of like political symbol that is our question

980
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 9: seventeen kind of.

981
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 5: Not really kind of okay, cultural cultural?

982
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 4: Did this dog commit crimes against a baby?

983
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 5: I want that on a shirt and I want to

984
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 5: know how a hero criminal? But no.

985
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 7: Baby?

986
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 4: Okay, I know there was a dog that did something

987
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 4: wrong to a baby.

988
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 5: Episode No crimes against a human baby?

989
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 7: Oh wow?

990
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 6: All right?

991
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 7: More?

992
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 6: Two more? Was this dog the subject of a widespread

993
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 6: cultural panic?

994
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 7: No, I got one. Last one, I'll get I'll give

995
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 7: you one.

996
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 2: Your question, was this dog in the band widespread panic?

997
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 5: Yes?

998
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 3: Lies?

999
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 4: Was this?

1000
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 3: Was there a film made about this dog? No, that's

1001
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 3: a bummer.

1002
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 6: That is what did you do?

1003
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 5: What did you just say that film reaction?

1004
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 4: Oh?

1005
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 9: I said that's a bummer. It feels like this animal

1006
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 9: clearly deserves it.

1007
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 5: Well, I'm going to tell you the story.

1008
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 3: Okay.

1009
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 6: Oh, here we go.

1010
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 5: Of Bummer and Lazarus.

1011
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 4: Are you serious?

1012
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 5: Serious? So everyone knows the iconic San Francisco skyline. You know,

1013
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 5: you got the Trans America building and in that area

1014
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 5: when we go all the way back to the eighteen sixties,

1015
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 5: there is a man, Emperor Norton. You guys had an

1016
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 5: episode about.

1017
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, and the show.

1018
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 5: You mentioned his dogs, Bummer and Lazarus. Now is a

1019
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 5: passing mention Bummer and Lazarus, and Emperor Norton again declared

1020
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 5: himself Emperor of the US Protector of Mexico. He was

1021
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 5: always seen in the company of these two dogs, Bummer

1022
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 5: and Lazarus. He wasn't their owner, though, because these were

1023
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 5: stray dogs, and they were two of hundreds in the

1024
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 5: city at the time. And so on a cold day

1025
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 5: eighteen sixty one, a terrible dog fight broke out on

1026
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 5: a street in San Francisco. It's vicious big dogs attacking

1027
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 5: a smaller dog. Big dog takes a bite out of

1028
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 5: the smaller one's leg. That small one just yells out,

1029
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 5: yelps out. Another dog comes running in, breaks up the fight,

1030
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 5: bites the bully dog, drags the injured dog into a

1031
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 5: doorway and the two of them huddle there. And so

1032
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 5: the savior dog, that's Bummer. Bummer was called Bummer, who

1033
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 5: was a big black and white Newfoundland mix. Bummer would

1034
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 5: go around to all the saloons in the Barbary Coast

1035
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 5: begging for food, and people would feed them and he'd

1036
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 5: sit there and eat, and then uh just known all

1037
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 5: around town. Well, so Bumber still goes around to the saloons,

1038
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 5: gets food, but takes it to go, takes it out

1039
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 5: to this dog, this injured dog, and they sleep in

1040
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 5: this doorway for a few weeks while the bite heels.

1041
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 5: But everyone's like, this dog's not going to recover, but

1042
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 5: the dog does, and Lazarus was reborn. And then these

1043
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 5: two become an absolutely paired duo. They go everywhere together

1044
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,240
Speaker 5: all the time. And this is one hundred and sixty

1045
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 5: years ago doggy life. So what's their flex. Their flex

1046
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 5: is that they had a skill that wound up saving

1047
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 5: their lives. They were so good at ratting that they

1048
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 5: became in demand pest control in like the filthy streets

1049
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 5: of San Francisco's. So in one instance, they get called

1050
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 5: in to control the rats in a hotel. The dogs

1051
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 5: enter the building. Twenty minutes later, eighty five rats are dead.

1052
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 5: And because of this, everyone loves them. But there's trouble,

1053
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 5: there's trouble on the horizon. So stray dogs are totally

1054
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 5: out of control in San Francisco. There's hundreds and hundreds

1055
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 5: of them, and so animal control is like taking them

1056
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 5: in at this exponential rate, and then less than ten

1057
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,360
Speaker 5: percent of the ones they take in or ever claimed.

1058
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 5: So the Board of Supervisors they pass an ordinance animal Control.

1059
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 5: You got to go out round up as many as

1060
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,799
Speaker 5: possible any dog without a muzzle or a leash on

1061
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,479
Speaker 5: and if someone claims them, they have to pay five

1062
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 5: bucks to get them out of pound. If no one

1063
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,760
Speaker 5: claims them, the cops shoot him on site.

1064
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 4: Damn geez rough.

1065
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 5: So immediately people in the area, they're worried about Bummer

1066
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 5: and Lazarus. You know, they lived on the streets and

1067
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 5: they liked it that way. They could never be owned,

1068
00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:48,439
Speaker 5: and people were right to be worried, because pretty soon,

1069
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:52,399
Speaker 5: poor Lazarus he gets caught. Luckily, someone steps in pays

1070
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 5: the five dollars. But this outraged the people of San Francisco.

1071
00:56:56,760 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 5: They petitioned the Board of Supervisors to exempt Bummer and

1072
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 5: Lazarus from this death order, and so they have a

1073
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 5: meeting to hear this petition. Bummer and Lazarus go to

1074
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 5: city Hall and they're gathered in the doorway, just like

1075
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 5: they did when Lazarus was healing, waiting to hear their

1076
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 5: fate inside the chambers, and the city fathers they listened.

1077
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 5: They declared Bummer and Lazarus city property companions. To the

1078
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 5: city itself. So they're big flexes where we you know,

1079
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 5: we're not going to be killed. We now are belonged

1080
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 5: to the entire city, a whole city, because we kill

1081
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 5: so many rests. And then like a week later, they

1082
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 5: totally proved their worth because the two of them stopped

1083
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,000
Speaker 5: a runaway horse cart on Busy Clay Street. They one

1084
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 5: on either side, they run along, Bummer gets out in front,

1085
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 5: slows the horse, a man jumps on is able to

1086
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 5: pull the reins back, and there are all these other

1087
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 5: stories of their companionship and their antics, and then their

1088
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 5: eventual passing was like city wide morning when each one

1089
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 5: finally went. But it's a solid cane flex. You kill

1090
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 5: some rats, you get exempt from the death penalty, and

1091
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 5: you belong to the city by the bay, and you

1092
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 5: become legends.

1093
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 6: Well beautiful. I also have to say, just in the

1094
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 6: interest of fairness, rats are very intelligent creatures and they

1095
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 6: probably have their own stories.

1096
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 5: But oh, I'm sure, but they're also filthy.

1097
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 6: Yes, that is true. Uh, existence requires us to exist

1098
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 6: and filter. But do we get a half point for

1099
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 6: that half court shot and noll through with Bummer?

1100
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 5: Of course?

1101
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 4: Jeez, totally half I have to jump in here so

1102
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 4: I can get a max with the facts in on

1103
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 4: this episode, there is actually a dry gin titled Bumber

1104
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 4: and Lazarus with the dogs on it, and one of

1105
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 4: the dogs even has a rat in the exactly.

1106
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 5: And apparently they were just terribly ugly, but everyone just

1107
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 5: loved them to death. And so Bummer and Lazarus, those

1108
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 5: are my dudes.

1109
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 6: Amazing Elizabeth, I amazing like. And also it looks like

1110
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 6: if I'm keeping score here, if we're if we're playing log,

1111
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 6: you also get a point for I would suggest that

1112
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 6: Ridiculous Crime gets a point for stumping us. Yes, and

1113
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 6: then and then we get a half point.

1114
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 5: Because no, man, you just won't right out.

1115
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 7: Okay, So do you want to compare notes? Ben, I

1116
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 7: got us at two and a half. You two point five,

1117
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 7: us one point five. So two and a half one

1118
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 7: and a half.

1119
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 6: That's where I've got us, as well as Aeron, which

1120
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 6: I think means we have to continue this in another episode.

1121
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 6: Let's make a week of it, you know what I mean.

1122
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 6: I can't wait. I can't wait. You guys, thank you

1123
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 6: so much for having us over here on Ridiculous Crime.

1124
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 5: Thank you for joining us. Thank you and thank you

1125
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 5: for having us on Ridiculous Sisters.

1126
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 4: Yes, it's the secret. Third thing we found a third.

1127
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 5: Place was amazing. That was something.

1128
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, that is all over my face.

1129
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Speaker 5: Yeah that was wild.

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Speaker 7: I just brushed back by the wind.

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Speaker 5: Wait, so where'd they go?

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Speaker 7: They left you while you were talking to the interns.

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Speaker 7: They left, they bounced, Yeah, producer Dave and I said goodbye. Oh,

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Speaker 7: you know whatever. But they know your hearts in the

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Speaker 7: right place.

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Speaker 5: That's true.

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Speaker 2: How many questions was that in total? Like fourteen plus?

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Speaker 5: They hit twenty and then twenty.

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Speaker 7: Fourteen and twenty so that was yeah, what is that

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Speaker 7: fifty four four? Right? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Fourth questions pretty close to the limit. And we had

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Speaker 2: one there, one guest, one sort of guest but really not,

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Speaker 2: and and one we had no freaking clue on.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and at half point, I still want to give

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Speaker 7: back Oh yeah, sure, episode, We will give that back

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Speaker 7: to them.

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Speaker 2: We might even mail it when they leave it on

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Speaker 2: their door.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so ridiculous takeaways anything.

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Speaker 5: You know, what I tried really hard. My ridiculous takeaway

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Speaker 5: thank you for asking, is that I tried really hard

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Speaker 5: not to be like hyper competitive, and I think you

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Speaker 5: failed because you started answering my questions.

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Speaker 7: I just get bored in the middle when I start

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Speaker 7: helping whoever I got the ball, I'm score.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the team where you know what you guys,

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01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 5: we're a team. We work together. So my ridiculous takeaway

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Speaker 5: is I'm proud of myself for there was no bloodshed,

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Speaker 5: you know, no insults hurled. I didn't cheat, Max me,

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Speaker 5: I did you.

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Speaker 7: Leave my man maximum out of this?

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Speaker 5: Is Zaron? What's your ridiculous takeaway.

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Speaker 7: My ridiculous camp? Did you see that participation anyway? Mine

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Speaker 7: is uh? I liked your your stumping them on, like

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Speaker 7: basically flipping the idea of like what could be the

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Speaker 7: historical figure. I thought that was great. I would have

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Speaker 7: definitely not got that correct, but it also would have

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Speaker 7: driven me insane and I would have protested that's not

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Speaker 7: a person. Why person? So I think also like to

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Speaker 7: give them credit for not being jerk like me. It

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Speaker 7: was like, Elizabeth, why would you get it eight legs?

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01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 7: You came up with two creatures eight legs. I'm over

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Speaker 7: here trying to picture a person me.

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Speaker 5: You know I would do something like that?

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Speaker 7: Was great on your team?

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Speaker 5: Producer, Dave, what's your ridiculous takeaway.

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Speaker 2: My ridiculous takeaway is I need to come up with

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Speaker 2: a tougher one to really stump them next time, because

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Speaker 2: I thought, you know, I went in with my kid

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Speaker 2: gloves on and uh yeah, and they they did pretty good.

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01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:31,479
Speaker 2: They shredded it in like fourteen questions. But next time,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna come up with something

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Speaker 2: little tougher.

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Speaker 5: I think if you hadn't have given them the birth, yeah,

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Speaker 5: the birth. And then I also have to say that

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Speaker 5: yours was the coolest quote unquote flex as they say,

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Speaker 5: of all of them, like, you don't get cooler than that.

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Speaker 5: You got Sinatra, You've got Dirty Harry.

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Speaker 7: Got Henry Silva bullet bullet.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, come on, yeah, it's all there. Zodiac

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Speaker 5: come on Peak San Francisco. So you know, my ridiculous take.

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Speaker 2: It's like and took another number and.

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Speaker 5: The ultimate winner is producer Dave.

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Speaker 7: I'm with that. I like that call.

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Speaker 2: Well on that note. That is all we have for today,

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Speaker 2: and I don't want anything else in there, so I'm

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