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Speaker 3: Like a whole put your back against the wall and

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Speaker 2: Big Meat was.

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Speaker 1: Balling in the early two thousands in a way that

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Speaker 1: The lifestyle that rappers are living now meets lived then.

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Speaker 4: To understand you gotta stop making business personal.

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Speaker 4: You don't know these these they don't know you. If

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Speaker 2: Loom. Do you think that what happened with fifty cent

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Speaker 1: Remember fifty cent. Is that kind of they feel like

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Speaker 4: You, biggest boss. I've been separated myself from these brokenness

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Speaker 4: because they don't understand the rules to the streets. You understand,

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Speaker 1: Can't nobody make me believe me you ain't looking at

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Speaker 1: to talk about the Big Meats fifty cent Rick Ross situation.

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Speaker 1: If you do not know the bad history of Big Meats.

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Speaker 2: The lifestyle that rappers.

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Speaker 1: Dmetris big Meats is the co founder of Black Mouth

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Speaker 5: The DA investigations.

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Speaker 1: Called it Operation Motor City Mafia, revealed that BMF had

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Speaker 2: But was released in twenty twenty. Through the COVID nineteen concerns.

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Speaker 5: Big Meats has now been released and it's.

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Speaker 1: Free, and so Big Meaches out and so he's doing

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Speaker 1: a welcome home concert and there's a lot of people

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Speaker 1: you know, Hone's legacy and immortalize its impact on the culture. Again,

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Speaker 1: if you don't know, you really don't understand, Yo, what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, making sure everybody balling, making sure the strippers

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Speaker 1: got caught this Big Meach Welcome Back Legacy Concert. Little

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Speaker 1: Baby Rick Ross twenty one seven sixty, Red Koda at

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Speaker 5: Thursday, februaryvery thirteen.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to the home of ag I see you

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Speaker 1: we don't see fifty on them, and then light bulbs

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Speaker 4: Look at this February thirteen, the big meet you on

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be iconic.

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Speaker 6: Too many names the list, but let me salute some

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Speaker 6: of the legends, Little Baby, boss Man, Dilo, twenty one, Savage,

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Speaker 6: set you inad Ricky Rose. Now this the first time

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Speaker 6: it has ever been done, Me performing BMF with the icon himself.

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Speaker 6: The shit gonna be special, efic, get your tickets right now.

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Speaker 3: I'm bad And.

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Speaker 2: So when you when you see this video, you know.

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Speaker 2: Your fifty is emotional man like this and it's just biddiness.

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Speaker 2: He shouldn't be worried about that.

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Speaker 1: I get what y'all saying, But fifty I already told

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Speaker 2: When Nicks on the fence, we push him to the

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Speaker 1: Is y'all not listening, Mike? Do y'all think nicky joking?

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Speaker 1: When somebody telling you who they are, you better believe them.

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Speaker 1: Fifty told you when Niss on the fence, we push

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Speaker 1: intensive purposes, he feels like, Yo, I kept your legacy alive.

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Speaker 1: I kept the TV show going birtha career for your son.

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Speaker 1: If you ask me, Big mech is playing a dangerous

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 1: He can take that show and he can now bring

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Speaker 1: up shit in that show that don't paint you in

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Speaker 1: the best life. And you know, maybe Meach gonna play

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Speaker 1: here now, I'm my chill now. A lot of them

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Speaker 1: be affected? And them boys be so happy to smell air?

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Speaker 1: Now them boys was behind you, I be wondering, like

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Speaker 1: like running from about that mark?

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Speaker 2: I get it, though. Don't nobody want to be in jail,

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Speaker 2: but y'all do while here killing and drilling and and man,

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Speaker 2: Nikki feenans to get up out of there?

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Speaker 1: Like I asked a bird Man brother who they say

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Speaker 1: feel the energy?

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Speaker 2: You know how you can tell like.

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Speaker 1: There home home and crying and shit, he they want

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Speaker 1: to go home? Band no month like he really done

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Speaker 1: turned into a sucker in here. Man, he ain't even

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Speaker 1: took this shit on the chin. He taking it to

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Speaker 2: Like I done. Got calls from the jails man with

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Speaker 1: Know, little sudden and said, yeah, yeah, whatever was out

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: He here crying every day. He ain't got no money

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Speaker 1: on the phone. Ain't nobody sitting him nothing. He don't

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Speaker 1: do nothing but complain. We don't put him off the chairs.

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Speaker 1: We keep making him move around.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: All he do is complain in here, man, He in

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Speaker 1: here winding. But a lot of them get out and

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Speaker 1: they don't ever go back. Some of my homeboys who

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Speaker 5: You gotta respect what the jail do to a nick.

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Speaker 1: Now, a lot of y'all niggas you ain't respecting that shit.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be there, But you can't break

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Speaker 1: all colds man.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You can't be in there after you've done all this

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Speaker 1: shit and then feeling to get out. But nigga, But

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Speaker 1: you know what, I respect what a coach is with

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Speaker 1: this conversation with Mitch and fifty, because it's literally split

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Speaker 1: in its current form, meatch ain't more powerful than fifty.

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Speaker 2: Fifty is a powerful nigga.

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Speaker 1: Like y'all really gotta understand fifty powerful now, Like you

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Speaker 1: see what I'm saying that I ain't talking about on

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Speaker 1: no street shit.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about business men. Men. I'm talking about men,

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Speaker 2: just men, powerful men. Right.

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Speaker 1: Fifty is a powerful man right now. Mecha, he ain't

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Speaker 1: feel like, you don't get to leave with nothing I

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Speaker 1: gonna cost you fifty cent.

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Speaker 2: If you leave.

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Speaker 1: Man, if I give you a dollar, it's gonna cost

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Speaker 1: you five dollars when you leave.

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Speaker 2: Now, you might stay over here.

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Speaker 1: Get this, because if you leave, I'm gonna cost you

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to bankrupt you. So when you leave,

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Speaker 1: But what fifty had to understand is meat was meet

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Speaker 1: but the conversation remains. Should fifty cent had felt the

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Speaker 1: Ross's promotens concert. That's what rappers do. They gonna give

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Speaker 1: intellectual honesty, I'm gonna tell you the truth. He fifty

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Speaker 1: cent reaction wasn't because of the video. The decision was

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Speaker 1: He probably I knew that Meat was gonna go with

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Speaker 1: For fifty, I already told you, Nick, if you on

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna push you to the other side.

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Speaker 5: And so after fifty seves the video and it makes.

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Speaker 1: His rounds, the rumblings get louder about YO gonna see

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Speaker 5: But then fifty post this about me and for my

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Speaker 1: Out there, it says the biggest mistake he ever made

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Speaker 1: now labeling Big Meats a rat. The same Big Meats

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Speaker 1: that they're saying that Meach has set up. What's interesting

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Speaker 1: I just.

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Speaker 2: Did all that time.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not even man, but there's some people living

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Speaker 1: Right, it's dudes that the Meech and the BMF thing

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Speaker 1: When I seen this with fifty cent, I said, oh,

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Speaker 1: he on his rampage.

439
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 2: But he going against meats.

440
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: And so I'm wondering, like, can meetch legacy out weigh

441
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: fifty cents influence. It's the first time you're gonna see

442
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 1: street legacy with it versus influence. It's never been done

443
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: before in this way. I believe if meech street legacy

444
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: was one that it wasn't even no conversation about any

445
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: of the cuffey shit. I think that's a different thing.

446
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: Like the street legacy of Big Meats is unstoppable. If

447
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: it would have had no if it would have had

448
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: no mustard on it nowhere, if dudes wasn't even been

449
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 1: saying none of that shit, it's still powerful with the mustard.

450
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: Now that's what's crazy about our culture. Now, you can

451
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 1: still be powerful in our culture because lie on you.

452
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

453
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 1: Throw the rat word around out of time, it may

454
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: not be true. And when I saw fifty cent going

455
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 1: that big meats over Rick Ross, I imagine that meets

456
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: he don't know how to do this, so he don't

457
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: know how to go back and for he don't know

458
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: nothing about this shit, and he doesn't saw some of

459
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: them old on their legacy with this internet, bro, his

460
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 1: internet start showing. Really, you know, you give your hate

461
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 1: or something to go off. You did what I'm saying.

462
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: The more and more you out there, that's why when

463
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: you see somebody out there and.

464
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 2: These really ain't no hate, you know them boys got

465
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 2: to beat. Ain't like Obama? Yeah you remember the.

466
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: Republican Party couldn't find nothing on no Obama.

467
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 2: Yeah Obama was clean as a whostler. You ain't mean so.

468
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: You're dealing with meach. I felt like he wouldn't understand

469
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: what to do here. Bag out, But I knew Fitty

470
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: and Ross to have a thing. First thing I said

471
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: was I fit this brand. This is on brand for fifty.

472
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: People are saying this emotional. You know, we'll entertain that

473
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: conversation here in a minute. But if you ask me,

474
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 1: this is on brand for fifty. And then I seen

475
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: Ross and he dropped this video Pelton.

476
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 2: Look get you with rick Ros You like a hole,

477
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 2: put your back against the wall and just slide down.

478
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 4: Curtis Jackson, You're more than welcome to bring that Vasashi

479
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 4: Lamborghini to the Call show June seventh.

480
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 3: And your little homies.

481
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 4: I know, Auntie Murder, Yeah, I know you got a

482
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 4: Toyota Tundra. I know I can see it in your face.

483
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 4: I'm gonna charge to understand. You gotta stop making business personal.

484
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 4: Get your money. You don't know these these niggas don't

485
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 4: know you. If anybody going against Ricky Rose, let me

486
00:25:55,560 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 4: have this. I've been putting my foot up you niggas.

487
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 4: That'sis for the last fifteen years. Everything you touch crumble.

488
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 4: Why you think Rose on top? We don't take this

489
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 4: shit personally. We get into the mother money nigga. Now,

490
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 4: big meach February thirteenth, that concert gonna be off.

491
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 3: The mothercking hook.

492
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,239
Speaker 4: Putting this foot up you nigg asses and leaving it

493
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:26,360
Speaker 4: in your mother in testie nigga calls up bigger enough,

494
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 4: which you wassey the biggest nigga, biggest boss.

495
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 3: I've been separated myself.

496
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 4: From these brokens because they don't understand the rules to

497
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 4: the streets.

498
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 3: You understand.

499
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 4: Don't owe you nothing, Homie, it don't owe you nothing.

500
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 4: Y'all get money together, y'all, nigga, get money, keep moving

501
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 4: all that extra shit.

502
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 3: Nigga.

503
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 4: You don't even have a relationship with your own brothers, nigga,

504
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 4: your own mothers and fathers. How the you're gonna act

505
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 4: like you real close with Stop all that fake capping shit.

506
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 4: That's why you, nigga ain't got no money.

507
00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 3: You need a loan.

508
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 4: Come see the pass when it's on, comes see the boss.

509
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 4: If sayton, if I ain't saying nothing to you, I

510
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 4: may want to do something to your nigga. It's real,

511
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 4: Ricky Rose, You're looking at a young hustler on pace

512
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 4: to get a b And I'm gonna tell you all this,

513
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna try to understand this. It's only great

514
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 4: entertainment when you.

515
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 3: Forget it's entertainment.

516
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 4: Redos you like a hole, put your back against the

517
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 4: wall and just slide down. Curtis Jackson, You're more than

518
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 4: welcome to bring that Versashi Lamborghini to the Call show

519
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 4: June seventh. And your little homies I know them, Auntie Murder, Yeah,

520
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 4: I know you got a Toyota Tundra.

521
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 3: I know it.

522
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 4: I can see it in your face. I wanna yall

523
00:27:55,119 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 4: to understand. You gotta stop making business person no, get

524
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 4: your money. You don't know these these nigga don't know you.

525
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 4: If anybody going against Ricky Rose, let me have this.

526
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 4: I've been putting my foot up you niggas Assis for

527
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 4: the last fifteen years. Everything you nigga touched, Crumbo, Why

528
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 4: you think Rose on top?

529
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 3: We don't take this shit personally.

530
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 4: We getting to the Mother money nigga now, big meach

531
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 4: February thirteenth.

532
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 3: That concert gonna be off the Mother the hook.

533
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 4: Putting this foot up you nick asses and leaving it

534
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 4: in your mother in the testinle nigga, you know what's

535
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 4: going down? Cast show bigger thanough of Ricky Rose, the

536
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 4: biggest nigga, biggest boss.

537
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 3: I've been separating myself.

538
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 4: From these broken ni because they don't understand the rules

539
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 4: to the streets. You understand don't know niggo you nothing

540
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 4: only don't owe you nothing. Y'all get money together, y'all niggs.

541
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 3: Money, keep moving all that extra shit.

542
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 4: Niggas don't even have a relationship with your own brothers, nigga,

543
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 4: your own mothers and fathers. How the you gonna act

544
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 4: like real close with Stop all that fake cap and shit.

545
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 4: That's why you ain't got no money. You need a loan.

546
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 4: Come see the boss when its own. Come see the boss.

547
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 4: If taking if it ain't saying nothing to you, I

548
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 4: may want to do something to your nigga.

549
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 5: And so when I seen this video with Ross, I said, oh,

550
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 5: that was a smart move.

551
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: I can't even capt I was gonna. I wonder how

552
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: was Ross gonna address this, Like how was he gonna

553
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: come back? Because a lot of people looking at it saying,

554
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: your fit.

555
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: They had a relationship with me.

556
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: She were helping his son, got his story going, keeping

557
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: it alive, Like damn.

558
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: What's that about? But Ross.

559
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: Ross landed on something that made a lot of sense

560
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: and that it is a part of the industry, basically saying,

561
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: don't be in your feelings.

562
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: These niggs don'na know. You gonna go left.

563
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: He ain't even really honoring meet you with that of

564
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: you asking me, He basically.

565
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: Saying, me's doing that.

566
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 5: You know it ain't nothing but some money involved in

567
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 5: this shit.

568
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: Honor you, Nick, basically what he's said in the fifty

569
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: So both of these guys were on brand. Fifty showing

570
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: his emotional side. Ross is trying to stick.

571
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: To the boss side.

572
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: And it don't matter what we do, what we want

573
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: with these little nigs who don't bother us. You know

574
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: that type of vibration. Now people are asking me, Loan,

575
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,959
Speaker 1: do you think that what happened with fifty cent was emotional?

576
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: And I need people to understand what I was speaking

577
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: about earlier. Everybody from the streets don't go through the

578
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: same things in the streets.

579
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 2: So if you were just a.

580
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: Dude that grew up in the neighborhood but you never hustled,

581
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: my experience was totally different than yours, and things may

582
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: be a little bit more dangerous to.

583
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 2: Me than they are the youth, even though we grew

584
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: up next door to each other.

585
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: When we leave outside of our projects or outside our apartments,

586
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: what we leave and do dictate our experiences. So we

587
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: come back to the neighborhood and you just all they

588
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: been somewhat playing the game and the shootouts on the block.

589
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: I've been involved in shootouts. He been then shooting at people.

590
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: I've been getting shot at. He been the making players

591
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: all day. He been the one that they bring and

592
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: stolen goods too. So the people who grew up selling

593
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: drugs can identify our dool find the ones grew up stealing.

594
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: Thank everybody thieves, you see what I'm saying.

595
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: The ones that grew up hustling, think everybody can be hustled.

596
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: When you deal with fifty cent of his upbringing, dude

597
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: almost lost his life. You know, when you come from

598
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: what we come from, you have expectations on things that expire,

599
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: and I think that's to a detriment to your emotional

600
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: well being. I'm a cancer and we are emotional, So

601
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: I can identify with the emotional.

602
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 5: Side of fifty cent.

603
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: Sometimes when he reacts certain ways, I know what it's

604
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: coming from. And you gotta forgive me, because you know, again,

605
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: what we come from.

606
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: I come from a.

607
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 5: Game where your word is everything.

608
00:31:59,520 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 4: I know.

609
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: Everybody say that right, you may be talking, but I

610
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: come from a game where I had to fly somewhere,

611
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: drive somewhere deal with some people, and it's all on

612
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: our word.

613
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: Everything is our word.

614
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: Everything me and this individual got going on is based

615
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: on a nick word. I'm gonna leave him Sidney five

616
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: grand over here, and he telling me Wednesday there'll be

617
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: a delivery with my name on it. And I trust that,

618
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: and I leave that Sidney five k out there. That's

619
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: all on our word. Man, that's all on our word.

620
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: Or I make a call and make a phone call

621
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: and say, Yo, it's here, and a nigga and his

622
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: stage and around this money up and bring two hundred

623
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: and fifty k over there, just because I called him

624
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: based on my word. I ain't showed him nothing, he

625
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: ain't saw nothing. Just based on my phone call. He

626
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: gonna get two hundred and fifty k and meet me

627
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: at some corner, stole me the neighborhood. So I come

628
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: from a place where my word hold value. So if

629
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: I say I got you, I'm gonna look out for you.

630
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hip you.

631
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: I'ma I mean, that's why you.

632
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: Don't see people with me, because if they with me,

633
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: I got them like I got me, and they go

634
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: for every part of them.

635
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 2: So I don't play around with that, you see what

636
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: I mean? And so think about fifties life. You're dealing

637
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: with a.

638
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: Man that been shot nine times in his neighborhood. The

639
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: thing about our emotions is they drive results. They drive results,

640
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: Like I can get mad in the interview. I could

641
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: be in an interview with somebody, don't even feel like

642
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: being there.

643
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: Just you know what I'm saying. But when they challenge me,

644
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 2: oh this nigga think I'm dumb, and.

645
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: That emotion to make me whip out the intellectual handgun

646
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: and yeah, catch your body.

647
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying.

648
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: But if I don't care, not just you know what

649
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta find a way to turn me on.

650
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: I don't want people to sit back and act like

651
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: the emotional response is something that is not tolerated in

652
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: our environment when a lot of shit is shaped off emotions.

653
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: I donet been in parties like yo, man, you know something,

654
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: don't feel right. Ain't nobody done nothing, don't nobody look

655
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: no kind of way?

656
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: Nick? Thing turned? No right? But I'm just it's a feeling.

657
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 2: It's a feeling.

658
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 5: Emotions is feeling.

659
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 2: So it's a feeling that made me say, yo, let's

660
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 2: deal man. Some don't feel right.

661
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: He needs looking or these niggas mug and they broke right.

662
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: And so again, when you come from a certain environment,

663
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: these emotional reactions have driven results. So I want to

664
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: hold some space for fifty cent because he's already told

665
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: you guys that if you was on the fence, will

666
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: push him to the other side.

667
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: Now where I do think fifty made.

668
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: A miscalculation that and we tend to do it and

669
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: it really hurt a nigga talk. I think he miscalculated

670
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: personal lord to and professional strategy.

671
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: Big Meach is running a play.

672
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: Big meaches being strategic with his relationships, and I'm thinking

673
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: fifty is asking him to say, Yo, you could have

674
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: did that party with everybody but Rick Ross and kept

675
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: your relationlationship with me. But you have to remember Big

676
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: meats looking at rapnck a certain way. Can't nobody make

677
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: me believe me t ain't looking at rappers like Yo,

678
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: I'm krim, Dela Krim. You wanted to be me, y'all

679
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't even be rapping if it won't for me. I

680
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: can I can see that that that that Meats feel

681
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 1: like his influence is so strong it's I ain't listening to.

682
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 5: No rap nigga.

683
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: Man cain't no rap niggas or my coltel man, no

684
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 1: rapping add nigga oring my coltel man. I'm twenty five

685
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: hundred keys a month the fair document, right. I can

686
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: hear that, but that's without the smut. But I can

687
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: he him going with that, like bro, I ain't listen

688
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: to no mother rap nick. Why with me for the

689
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: ink drying on your contract for balling for jay z

690
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: had money?

691
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: Man?

692
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 4: You that not?

693
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: Man can't no too rap nigga tell me nothing. That's

694
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 2: how if you ask me, That's how Big Meat's looking

695
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: at it. That's if you ask me. And that go

696
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: for fifty cent or whoever else you.

697
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: Think you can name, because again big me for balling

698
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: when did in them need it alone?

699
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: When jay zing them was just not coming up.

700
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: But even deeper than that, I want to talk about

701
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: personal lord to and professional strategy and why people are

702
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: emotionally attached to some of these business relationships, right because

703
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: you hear some.

704
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 2: Of the niggas pulling out the tricks. That's the game

705
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 2: they play, all.

706
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 1: These emotional naw y'all, mislid, I thought you a nigga,

707
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: thought we was really on the same page, and we

708
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 1: wasn't a lot of the people that's pulling the tricks.

709
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: They have a supreme understanding on how people view a

710
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: man crime or a man seeking resolution. Right, A lot

711
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: of times they think that makes you look weak. But

712
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: if you ask me to be vulnerable as powerful.

713
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 2: To say I've been lied.

714
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: To and let down and and and sent down the

715
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: wrong road. If you ask me, it's powerful because that

716
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: means I don't give up. That just means this is

717
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: my current position, and watch me working, watch me do it.

718
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: But part of the reason why black men are emotionally

719
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 1: attached to these business relationships is because.

720
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 5: People are being deceptive. Let's call us fade to fade.

721
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: It'll be a scenario where they'll act like that, yo,

722
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: I ain't know him, like that, why he expec me

723
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: to have been?

724
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 2: Why he expecting me to do this?

725
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 5: In the form where it's.

726
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: Like, bro, you are promising gold and give a nick

727
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: deal and then act like a got no right to

728
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 1: answer about the gold.

729
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:36,879
Speaker 2: You promised them.

730
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: And so we come from a culture where jay Z

731
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: Hall called it lie familiar, and then you got people

732
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: like Beni Siegel that are saying two thousand and four.

733
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: He needed jay Z to sign off for him to

734
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 1: get out of jail, and jay Z wouldn't do it

735
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: because it's been this. But if you ask Bennis Siegel,

736
00:37:54,920 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: I signed this lot familiar. It's Rockefella for life, or

737
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,360
Speaker 1: we'll call it. We'll call it then they'll call it

738
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 1: bad boy for life.

739
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: And Jason ma ain't stole my publishing, and I ain't

740
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: got none of my publisher But it's for life. But

741
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 2: it's family, it's a unite in front.

742
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: And so the illusion that's being sold in black culture,

743
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: it's part of the reason why people are emotionally involved

744
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: in business relationships. One thing you know about Lucien Grains,

745
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: he ain't gonna call you family universe. Ain't gonna make

746
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: it seem like your family universe. Ain't gonna tell you

747
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: this my homeboy, this is my brother. This's somebody out

748
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: I want to see do good. They gonna say whatever.

749
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: The business is the business here, but a lot of

750
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: nig with the family shit because he get the most

751
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: out of the product. You leave with the family and

752
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: the homeboy route because he get the most out the

753
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: mother product. All they want is to rap, believe it

754
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 1: and give them less and less. You'll take a change

755
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: from your cousin when you really need publishing.

756
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: But it's my family.

757
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: These young men to take a chain and watch a

758
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: car because it's their family.

759
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: It's they homeboy. We family won't answer your call in

760
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 2: two years because it's business.

761
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 1: But part of the deception that comes from black Coat

762
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: is what we set it under the guise of one

763
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 1: nucleus of one family.

764
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: Fifty cent.

765
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 5: Then when it posted about meats more.

766
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: And he referenced little baby, and I guess they said

767
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: a little baby poured up on me to they give

768
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: you nothing.

769
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: I don't give me now. I don't care who you are.

770
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: You don't get no money from me no more.

771
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 5: I was talking to my homeboy, like my family and

772
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 5: the fids.

773
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, when you get out, you know, it

774
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: ain't about giving him steady grand fouty grand.

775
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 3: He can go buy a break in a head. Man.

776
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: Look, man, nigga, need to give you a parking lot

777
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: that's making five thousand a month. There you go, that's

778
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: something you can work on. Give you something to do,

779
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: some leagu money, not enough to run off to go

780
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: see the plug. It's gonna put you right back in

781
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 1: the trick.

782
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 4: Bag.

783
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: But I don't get no money away to more and

784
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: I don't show big meat ain't no charity case. If

785
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 1: big meat is who Big Me said they is, he

786
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: don't need no money from no little baby but nobody else.

787
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 2: He don't need no pulling up.

788
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 3: With no money.

789
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

790
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 5: If you really who you like, I ain't pulling up

791
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 5: with no money on no nick. Really who you say

792
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 5: you here?

793
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 2: Ain't And I didn't know you like that. If I

794
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 2: knew you, that's a different guy.

795
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: I ain't know you like that.

796
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 5: I just respect your hustle. I'm gonna pull a push

797
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 5: up on you, show you some love, show you I'm

798
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 5: a line. What you see what you got going.

799
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pop out for you, make you some money,

800
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: but I ain't giving you my money.

801
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

802
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: With y'all be expecting no charity case e donations around

803
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: the bitch or what they're saying about it.

804
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. I don't really understand it.

805
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 5: But it said enough for brother, pull up, bro, pulled up,

806
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 5: show this respect.

807
00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 3: You dig what I'm saying.

808
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 1: And it seems like you're gonna pop out for him

809
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: like I don't know but again.

810
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 3: Set the.

811
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 2: Number you had doubt that's been disconnect? What the fifty?

812
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: Hold on?

813
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: Wait?

814
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 3: Hold on?

815
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 4: Wait?

816
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: Three three weeks?

817
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 3: Three weeks ago?

818
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 2: Ship was just good fifty.

819
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: What's going on?

820
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 5: I get paid to snitch now, nigga's really classified.

821
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 3: I can't even really talk about this ship.

822
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 4: My knew.

823
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't reason.

824
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 3: Don't telling you because you're my boy. But don't you

825
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 3: see what I did the Roger?

826
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,479
Speaker 2: I'm seeing what I did the Roger? Yeah, forty years

827
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 2: years you didn't want to sign that greet.

828
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 3: Me all?

829
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 2: Do you know what you get with me?

830
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 4: Bro?

831
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 2: You were happy about giving me how much money? Money

832
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: they gave me? Forget how much two hundred hours?

833
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 3: You know?

834
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: The rules is paperwork, paperwork do gotta be showed. You know,

835
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: if they ain't putting on paperwork up, I don't think

836
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: it's no paperwork got there. I think what they're saying is,

837
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: you know a guy, Saint Louis got set up by

838
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: somebody and they they mentioned meech and Me's told him something, right,

839
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: you got to look into it. If somebody got some

840
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: real work out there, or it got something going on,

841
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure to make its way to us

842
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: and we'll and we'll look at it, but you know

843
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: it pits fifty cent hour. But one thing about Rick Ross,

844
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: you know, the rat thing don't work on Rick Ross

845
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: because he was a correctional officer.

846
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 2: But spec due hustle.

847
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: It's like, no matter who we go up against, you

848
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,479
Speaker 1: gotta deal with. He got that hustle card on y'all,

849
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: that Nick spec All in America, all through the ghettos.

850
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: Say one thing about that Rick Ross. He know how

851
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: to get some money. And you know how they doing

852
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: the ghettos for money? Like if you got a little

853
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: money and look over a few things. Yeah, nah, they

854
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:03,439
Speaker 1: money making me look over few things, man, look over

855
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: a few things like a super vile you dig.

856
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You know, I mean, so.

857
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: The rat shit don't work on Ross. With meach, he's

858
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: trying to undermine meat. Again, it's the street legacy versus influence.

859
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: I mean, who do you think wins legacy versus influence?

860
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but I don't want people to sit.

861
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 2: Back and act like that.

862
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: You know, in our culture, we don't explore those emotional

863
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: responses and emotional experiences, and they're interwoven in our culture.

864
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 1: You know, Nigs emotionally weak. They've been through hell. Niggas

865
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: is really broke down. They're just strong and keep it moving,

866
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: but broke down emotionally been let down them. Ben forgot

867
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: about Everybody wants something, want to be forgave, you know

868
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: what I mean. So much going on in the committee

869
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: sins that nigga. It's a lot that it's wrapped up

870
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: in the Black experiences excusal when you get to make

871
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: it to the other side

872
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 5: At