1 00:00:08,245 --> 00:00:14,085 Speaker 1: School of Humans. Wowee wowee wow wow wow. It's another 2 00:00:14,205 --> 00:00:18,005 Speaker 1: episode of Cadaver Gals, the show where we talk about 3 00:00:18,045 --> 00:00:20,645 Speaker 1: all the ways people have died throughout history. I mean 4 00:00:20,685 --> 00:00:23,925 Speaker 1: the weird ways. They're weird ways people and also sad 5 00:00:23,965 --> 00:00:27,285 Speaker 1: and also sometimes other types of ways they're dying in ways. 6 00:00:27,645 --> 00:00:30,525 Speaker 1: I'm one of your hosts, Gabby, along with Taylor Hi 7 00:00:31,165 --> 00:00:39,565 Speaker 1: and Nika Hi and credible great highs everyone today, great work. Today. 8 00:00:39,605 --> 00:00:43,205 Speaker 1: We're gonna hear all sorts of things. There's gonna be 9 00:00:43,285 --> 00:00:46,685 Speaker 1: a lady who dies not once, but twice. I guess 10 00:00:46,685 --> 00:00:49,885 Speaker 1: she had to stick around or whatever. And I'm achiever, sorry, 11 00:00:50,165 --> 00:00:55,005 Speaker 1: honestly and overachiever. Achiever. She's like, you know, twenty percent 12 00:00:55,405 --> 00:01:00,045 Speaker 1: of a cat. Her life wasn't done yet. Another hashtag 13 00:01:00,085 --> 00:01:02,965 Speaker 1: girl boss probably, And we're also going to hear about 14 00:01:03,005 --> 00:01:07,725 Speaker 1: a Texas millionaire who was murdered and also owned a 15 00:01:07,765 --> 00:01:12,165 Speaker 1: wax museum. Um, which is always freaky and fun. Some 16 00:01:12,285 --> 00:01:17,405 Speaker 1: cool hot sugar warnings for today. We got murder, poison, suicide, 17 00:01:17,725 --> 00:01:22,805 Speaker 1: being buried alive, arson, and just wax figures that are creepy. 18 00:01:22,925 --> 00:01:27,645 Speaker 1: So um. Cue the music. Enjoy this episode. Be there 19 00:01:27,685 --> 00:01:29,125 Speaker 1: in just a second Okay, I meet you on the 20 00:01:29,165 --> 00:01:53,725 Speaker 1: other side of the music by lamp we st accordion music. 21 00:01:58,325 --> 00:02:02,685 Speaker 1: We're silly, Everyone's silly. Um We're silly, and we will 22 00:02:02,725 --> 00:02:05,405 Speaker 1: never not try to do the theme music. We're just 23 00:02:05,605 --> 00:02:11,525 Speaker 1: very predictable, I think, and hot. Nika's always hot. Geez lowise. 24 00:02:11,725 --> 00:02:14,965 Speaker 1: But you'll also last time told us smelly and stinky 25 00:02:15,165 --> 00:02:20,725 Speaker 1: or however many episodes. But Taylor has a very great 26 00:02:21,245 --> 00:02:25,045 Speaker 1: eyeliner on today, So you win the eyeliner prize that 27 00:02:25,125 --> 00:02:28,485 Speaker 1: I was going to give out. Yeah, Lately, Taylor's been 28 00:02:28,485 --> 00:02:30,765 Speaker 1: looking really good at meetings and it's making me want 29 00:02:30,765 --> 00:02:33,165 Speaker 1: to step my game up and I feel threatened. It's 30 00:02:33,205 --> 00:02:36,685 Speaker 1: because I've been going into the office and seeing people 31 00:02:36,725 --> 00:02:38,845 Speaker 1: from the outside world, which occurred to me. I think 32 00:02:38,845 --> 00:02:42,645 Speaker 1: it's actually pretty funny because it's not like like it's 33 00:02:42,685 --> 00:02:44,445 Speaker 1: not like I'm doing it for my co workers. I'm 34 00:02:44,445 --> 00:02:46,765 Speaker 1: doing it for the people in the building that I 35 00:02:46,805 --> 00:02:54,085 Speaker 1: work in, you know, across, so it's very strange. Anyway. Yeah, well, 36 00:02:54,125 --> 00:02:57,285 Speaker 1: I'm setting my alarm for you know, nine to fifty eight. 37 00:02:57,325 --> 00:02:59,685 Speaker 1: I wake up and then go to my ten o'clock meeting, 38 00:02:59,845 --> 00:03:02,485 Speaker 1: and you know, it's always ten o one when I arrive, 39 00:03:02,565 --> 00:03:06,245 Speaker 1: you know, because there's traffic from my bed. It's a shameful. 40 00:03:06,445 --> 00:03:11,685 Speaker 1: It's a fishing shameful. It's efficient. Okay, Well, I guess 41 00:03:12,125 --> 00:03:15,085 Speaker 1: we should talk about death. I suppose, um, since that 42 00:03:15,245 --> 00:03:18,245 Speaker 1: is the premise of the show, and Taylor is gonna 43 00:03:18,405 --> 00:03:21,325 Speaker 1: tell us the tale of the hashtag girl boss who 44 00:03:21,565 --> 00:03:26,685 Speaker 1: died twice. Okay, Yeah, so we're gonna talk about a 45 00:03:26,965 --> 00:03:33,525 Speaker 1: lady named Marjorie McCall. Marjorie. Bad name. Sorry, Oh you 46 00:03:33,565 --> 00:03:37,165 Speaker 1: think it's a great name, Marjorie, Marjora. That sounds like 47 00:03:37,205 --> 00:03:40,885 Speaker 1: a soap opera name. Marjorie sounds like a Southern ghost. 48 00:03:41,285 --> 00:03:44,925 Speaker 1: I like it. That's wrong with a Southern ghost, Nika, Yeah, 49 00:03:44,965 --> 00:03:47,765 Speaker 1: nothing's wrong with that. I just like not ideal name, 50 00:03:47,845 --> 00:03:52,165 Speaker 1: you know. Oh, Shania is the ideal name for me. Okay, okay, 51 00:03:52,165 --> 00:04:01,765 Speaker 1: well you names what? Okay? Marjorie McCall. She was an 52 00:04:01,805 --> 00:04:06,405 Speaker 1: Irish lass wow see, married to a man named John McCall, 53 00:04:06,645 --> 00:04:08,885 Speaker 1: who was a doctor, and they had a few kids. 54 00:04:09,005 --> 00:04:11,605 Speaker 1: As far as I know, they're a one big, happy family. 55 00:04:12,325 --> 00:04:15,725 Speaker 1: Until one day, as it would happen in seventeen oh five, 56 00:04:16,405 --> 00:04:19,325 Speaker 1: various illnesses would just take over and they didn't know 57 00:04:19,365 --> 00:04:22,085 Speaker 1: how to get better from them. They didn't have the medicine, 58 00:04:22,485 --> 00:04:26,885 Speaker 1: modern medicine that we have today. And so poor Marjorie 59 00:04:27,325 --> 00:04:35,165 Speaker 1: got some sort of cold and died. Oh mummers and okay, 60 00:04:35,165 --> 00:04:38,885 Speaker 1: coming up on the next section though. Okay, So her 61 00:04:38,965 --> 00:04:42,565 Speaker 1: husband a doctor, he was like, science is real. So 62 00:04:42,645 --> 00:04:45,165 Speaker 1: he's like, we need to bury her quickly so her 63 00:04:45,205 --> 00:04:47,485 Speaker 1: corpse doesn't get everyone else. Six So he's like, we 64 00:04:47,565 --> 00:04:52,485 Speaker 1: need six feet apart from her quickly. So six feet yeah, 65 00:04:52,525 --> 00:04:56,045 Speaker 1: six feet under. You know, I thought we were doing 66 00:04:56,725 --> 00:05:02,845 Speaker 1: a six foot quarantine situation. But you mean yes, under underground, ground, Yes, 67 00:05:02,965 --> 00:05:07,165 Speaker 1: I get it. Yes. So during this time, there was 68 00:05:07,205 --> 00:05:10,085 Speaker 1: a lot of grave robbing going on, especially in the 69 00:05:10,085 --> 00:05:12,525 Speaker 1: first few nights, because like the soils like, you know, 70 00:05:12,685 --> 00:05:15,125 Speaker 1: looser than it would be after a few years or whatever. 71 00:05:15,565 --> 00:05:17,365 Speaker 1: And I mean think of grave robbers. You think of 72 00:05:17,405 --> 00:05:21,285 Speaker 1: people stealing jewelry, you know, or whatever somebody's buried with. 73 00:05:21,445 --> 00:05:23,165 Speaker 1: But there were all there was also this thing going 74 00:05:23,165 --> 00:05:26,525 Speaker 1: on at the time where med students or these people 75 00:05:26,725 --> 00:05:30,805 Speaker 1: were I guess the middleman. They would take the fresh 76 00:05:30,885 --> 00:05:33,885 Speaker 1: bodies from the ground and then use them in med 77 00:05:33,965 --> 00:05:36,045 Speaker 1: school to like learn from the cadavers. But that's not 78 00:05:36,085 --> 00:05:39,365 Speaker 1: what happened here. Don't you worry. They were just here 79 00:05:39,445 --> 00:05:45,965 Speaker 1: to steal some jewelry so often was very naked. Was like, wait, 80 00:05:46,085 --> 00:05:49,605 Speaker 1: hold on, med students. Most med students are freaks. The 81 00:05:49,805 --> 00:05:52,685 Speaker 1: students are freaks. You I love how you went. Sometimes 82 00:05:52,685 --> 00:05:55,685 Speaker 1: they steal jewelry, but med students sometimes, but they actually 83 00:05:55,725 --> 00:06:00,365 Speaker 1: stole jewelry. But what a great Yeah, good jobs. It's 84 00:06:00,365 --> 00:06:03,005 Speaker 1: a good fun fact for lady. It's like a tea's 85 00:06:03,085 --> 00:06:08,045 Speaker 1: leading into what I'll talk about. But then also, I mean, 86 00:06:08,405 --> 00:06:12,885 Speaker 1: maybe med students just wanted jewelry. Maybe it was both. 87 00:06:13,005 --> 00:06:15,205 Speaker 1: You know, they want to look students don't have a 88 00:06:15,285 --> 00:06:17,645 Speaker 1: lot of money. You know, they're just they're still just students. 89 00:06:18,125 --> 00:06:20,205 Speaker 1: I feel like these students would have because they would 90 00:06:20,205 --> 00:06:22,125 Speaker 1: have liked because they have to like buy the bodies 91 00:06:22,165 --> 00:06:25,125 Speaker 1: from the people who like dig up the bodies. That's true. 92 00:06:25,205 --> 00:06:30,725 Speaker 1: That's true. So these might be some mega rich med students. Yeah, okay, 93 00:06:30,925 --> 00:06:35,205 Speaker 1: So anyway, Um, Marjorie's family they were, they were. They 94 00:06:35,245 --> 00:06:37,925 Speaker 1: didn't check on the grave. They typically and this time 95 00:06:37,965 --> 00:06:40,365 Speaker 1: people would like sit by the grave and kind of 96 00:06:40,405 --> 00:06:42,805 Speaker 1: monitor to make sure this sort of thing wasn't happening, 97 00:06:43,485 --> 00:06:47,085 Speaker 1: but Marjorie's family did not. They were sad at their 98 00:06:47,085 --> 00:06:52,805 Speaker 1: houses not buy her grave. So that night grave robbers 99 00:06:52,805 --> 00:06:56,845 Speaker 1: went where Marjorie was buried, and she had this beautiful 100 00:06:56,925 --> 00:06:59,645 Speaker 1: ring which her husband had tried to like take off. 101 00:06:59,725 --> 00:07:01,845 Speaker 1: He was like, oh, you know, I want her ring 102 00:07:01,965 --> 00:07:04,685 Speaker 1: like and remembrance or whatever, but it was stuck on 103 00:07:04,725 --> 00:07:09,605 Speaker 1: her fingers. Never mind, I guess awkward. So there, I mean, 104 00:07:09,645 --> 00:07:12,165 Speaker 1: didn't they have butter back then? You could just butter 105 00:07:12,285 --> 00:07:14,245 Speaker 1: up her hand and you know, get it off right. 106 00:07:14,565 --> 00:07:17,365 Speaker 1: That's how you get things off, grease it up. You 107 00:07:17,445 --> 00:07:19,885 Speaker 1: know what actually works really well? Did they have butter 108 00:07:19,965 --> 00:07:23,885 Speaker 1: in seventeen oh five? And pretty? Okay? Cool? But you 109 00:07:23,925 --> 00:07:27,285 Speaker 1: know they probably didn't have that is very that actually 110 00:07:27,285 --> 00:07:30,765 Speaker 1: works is windus. My mom had it like a ring 111 00:07:30,805 --> 00:07:33,805 Speaker 1: stuck on her finger and went to this jewel jeweler 112 00:07:33,925 --> 00:07:40,005 Speaker 1: and they sprayed her finger with winds. Almost said sanax. 113 00:07:38,325 --> 00:07:44,125 Speaker 1: So why didn't he just suck his dead wife's corpse's finger? 114 00:07:44,805 --> 00:07:51,965 Speaker 1: Okay it to you? So anyway, I digress. Long story short, 115 00:07:52,165 --> 00:07:55,245 Speaker 1: she had a really pretty ring, very nice and expensive ring. 116 00:07:55,405 --> 00:07:58,005 Speaker 1: So these guys go down to get the ring from her, 117 00:07:58,085 --> 00:08:01,325 Speaker 1: but it's stuck as you remember. So one of the 118 00:08:01,365 --> 00:08:03,645 Speaker 1: guys is like, hey, man, you got a knife. I'm 119 00:08:03,645 --> 00:08:05,445 Speaker 1: going to need to cut her finger to get the ring. 120 00:08:05,605 --> 00:08:07,765 Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I got you. And so they start 121 00:08:07,805 --> 00:08:11,845 Speaker 1: to cut off Marjorie's finger to get the ring. While 122 00:08:12,765 --> 00:08:17,325 Speaker 1: Marjorie wakes back up, She's like, apparently she had this 123 00:08:17,365 --> 00:08:20,525 Speaker 1: whole time, really just been in a coma, and when 124 00:08:20,525 --> 00:08:22,485 Speaker 1: the Grave Robbers started to cut her finger off, she 125 00:08:22,565 --> 00:08:27,965 Speaker 1: woke up and was like, hella confused, Yeah, as were 126 00:08:27,965 --> 00:08:32,125 Speaker 1: the Grave Robbers. Now I've read actually two there's like 127 00:08:32,125 --> 00:08:35,645 Speaker 1: two different versions, so you can pick your favorite. I 128 00:08:35,685 --> 00:08:37,565 Speaker 1: have my favorite, but I think it's not as likely. 129 00:08:37,685 --> 00:08:41,165 Speaker 1: So the first one is the two robbers were so 130 00:08:41,205 --> 00:08:45,565 Speaker 1: shocked that they just died on the spot. But a 131 00:08:45,565 --> 00:08:48,325 Speaker 1: lot of people also are like, that's probably not what happened, 132 00:08:48,325 --> 00:08:50,205 Speaker 1: and they just like ran away, like oh my god, 133 00:08:50,245 --> 00:08:54,005 Speaker 1: what has happened? She just woke back up. So anyway, yeah, 134 00:08:54,045 --> 00:08:56,285 Speaker 1: I like the part where they died. That was funny. 135 00:08:56,485 --> 00:09:00,085 Speaker 1: I like that. Well, I mean like karma, I guess, 136 00:09:00,925 --> 00:09:04,805 Speaker 1: like stealing from the dead and then the dad wakes 137 00:09:04,885 --> 00:09:07,805 Speaker 1: up and then you die. Anyway, So but is this 138 00:09:07,925 --> 00:09:10,765 Speaker 1: how people should you know, wake up coma people in 139 00:09:10,805 --> 00:09:12,885 Speaker 1: the future. Do people do that now? Just try to 140 00:09:12,885 --> 00:09:14,885 Speaker 1: cut their fingers off and see if they wake up 141 00:09:15,805 --> 00:09:18,925 Speaker 1: like coma drama and they never can wake up or whatever. Yeah, 142 00:09:19,325 --> 00:09:21,565 Speaker 1: seemingly they should just do a little cutty cut on 143 00:09:21,565 --> 00:09:24,165 Speaker 1: the finger because we have the technology and the know 144 00:09:24,285 --> 00:09:28,205 Speaker 1: how to. I wonder if the husband would have sucked 145 00:09:28,245 --> 00:09:30,485 Speaker 1: the finger, if that would have oken her up or 146 00:09:30,565 --> 00:09:38,005 Speaker 1: I already okay, Nika's like this, Nikah continue. I also 147 00:09:38,165 --> 00:09:40,365 Speaker 1: like how they were probably like I mean Ireland at 148 00:09:40,405 --> 00:09:43,165 Speaker 1: the time. I guess they were still Catholic, not the Puritans, 149 00:09:43,245 --> 00:09:46,005 Speaker 1: but I don't know. I feel like Catholics would be 150 00:09:46,045 --> 00:09:52,005 Speaker 1: more likely to suck fingers than the Puritans, right, yeah, sure, yeah, definitely. 151 00:09:52,645 --> 00:09:57,525 Speaker 1: So anyway, Marjorie also is confused as I'll get out, 152 00:09:57,565 --> 00:09:59,685 Speaker 1: She's like, what is happening? She's like, I need to 153 00:09:59,685 --> 00:10:01,805 Speaker 1: go home and like check with my husband, see what's 154 00:10:01,845 --> 00:10:05,805 Speaker 1: going on. So she goes over there her had she 155 00:10:05,925 --> 00:10:10,125 Speaker 1: just hold up. She's just like she gets out of 156 00:10:10,125 --> 00:10:14,965 Speaker 1: her coffin dirt on her feet like a ghost like person, 157 00:10:15,205 --> 00:10:17,245 Speaker 1: and then just goes up to the house and check out. 158 00:10:17,285 --> 00:10:19,325 Speaker 1: Where would you go? I would go home? Too. I 159 00:10:19,325 --> 00:10:21,005 Speaker 1: mean I would go home too. I'm just like saying 160 00:10:21,005 --> 00:10:23,365 Speaker 1: how ridiculous this story is. And I'm not saying that 161 00:10:23,405 --> 00:10:25,725 Speaker 1: it's not true. I'm just saying how ridiculous it is. Well, 162 00:10:25,845 --> 00:10:28,925 Speaker 1: especially you're saying in such like a casual way. She's like, Oh, 163 00:10:29,005 --> 00:10:33,685 Speaker 1: I guess I'll just go this isn't my home. She 164 00:10:33,845 --> 00:10:36,645 Speaker 1: was like, I reject this home. Like what if you 165 00:10:36,685 --> 00:10:39,605 Speaker 1: woke up? I guess it would be really hard to 166 00:10:39,605 --> 00:10:41,805 Speaker 1: like that speech, like how would what would you say 167 00:10:41,885 --> 00:10:44,245 Speaker 1: to someone like after they thought you were dead? Just 168 00:10:44,285 --> 00:10:47,165 Speaker 1: be like, yo, like what would you do? Because I 169 00:10:47,165 --> 00:10:49,165 Speaker 1: feel like that's a big opportunity there. You could say 170 00:10:49,205 --> 00:10:51,965 Speaker 1: all sorts of freaky things. Let's see what did she say? 171 00:10:52,005 --> 00:10:55,685 Speaker 1: What did she say? Okay, so um, her husband and 172 00:10:55,765 --> 00:10:59,765 Speaker 1: kids were actually sitting by the fire inside and they 173 00:10:59,765 --> 00:11:01,925 Speaker 1: were like by the fireplace or whatever, and they were 174 00:11:01,965 --> 00:11:04,605 Speaker 1: like all sad and everything. When they hear a knock 175 00:11:04,645 --> 00:11:07,565 Speaker 1: at the door and the dad's like, y'all, I swear 176 00:11:07,765 --> 00:11:10,325 Speaker 1: if we didn't just bury your mother, that is her 177 00:11:10,405 --> 00:11:14,725 Speaker 1: knock like that is her and so which I know 178 00:11:14,765 --> 00:11:17,445 Speaker 1: what he means, Like a Scooby Doo episode, I know 179 00:11:17,485 --> 00:11:20,205 Speaker 1: what he means. Though people have a particular knock and 180 00:11:20,325 --> 00:11:23,805 Speaker 1: walk like people, you know. So he opens the door 181 00:11:23,925 --> 00:11:26,245 Speaker 1: and like there she is the same clothes that they 182 00:11:26,285 --> 00:11:29,725 Speaker 1: buried her in, and blood dripping down her hand. So 183 00:11:29,845 --> 00:11:32,845 Speaker 1: I actually don't know what she said because nobody said anything, 184 00:11:34,045 --> 00:11:37,485 Speaker 1: but I ow my hand. I assume, yeah, it went 185 00:11:37,565 --> 00:11:41,765 Speaker 1: something along the lines of so I was just having 186 00:11:41,805 --> 00:11:46,325 Speaker 1: a coma and then these guys came in cut my finger. 187 00:11:46,925 --> 00:11:49,845 Speaker 1: I woke up. They ran off or they died, not 188 00:11:49,885 --> 00:11:53,485 Speaker 1: sure which, And then I came home to be like, 189 00:11:53,525 --> 00:12:00,525 Speaker 1: what happens? Fault not father, husband, father, Yeah, it could 190 00:12:00,525 --> 00:12:02,885 Speaker 1: have been daddy, you know, anybody. It was mad that 191 00:12:02,925 --> 00:12:06,285 Speaker 1: they buried her, though, Like I'd be a little pissed 192 00:12:06,685 --> 00:12:10,245 Speaker 1: if someone buried me by accident. I would too, especially 193 00:12:10,285 --> 00:12:15,445 Speaker 1: if your husband's a doctor. A doctor, honestly, I'd be like, 194 00:12:16,125 --> 00:12:19,285 Speaker 1: he sounds like a hack. Yeah. Well this was seventeen 195 00:12:19,325 --> 00:12:24,245 Speaker 1: oh five. Someone revoked his medical license. Okay, I'll get 196 00:12:24,285 --> 00:12:29,965 Speaker 1: on that. So so anyway, she shortly after that, her 197 00:12:30,085 --> 00:12:35,565 Speaker 1: husband actually died, and she remarried, had more children, and 198 00:12:35,605 --> 00:12:41,965 Speaker 1: then eventually she passed away again, and her tombstone now 199 00:12:42,045 --> 00:12:47,885 Speaker 1: reads Marjorie McCall lived once buried twice, and that is 200 00:12:47,925 --> 00:12:51,205 Speaker 1: the story of Marjorie McCall. Now, there is a lot 201 00:12:51,245 --> 00:12:54,245 Speaker 1: of speculation on whether it's true or not. There are 202 00:12:54,285 --> 00:12:58,365 Speaker 1: historians who did the study, like studied it or whatever 203 00:12:58,485 --> 00:13:02,005 Speaker 1: try to determine if it's true or not. And there 204 00:13:02,365 --> 00:13:04,845 Speaker 1: are people out there they're like, no, this actually happened, 205 00:13:04,885 --> 00:13:07,485 Speaker 1: Like there's no, I mean, it's kind of like a folklore. 206 00:13:07,525 --> 00:13:09,605 Speaker 1: But at the same time, there are historians out there 207 00:13:09,605 --> 00:13:12,085 Speaker 1: that are like, no, I'm pretty sure this did actually happen. 208 00:13:12,245 --> 00:13:15,205 Speaker 1: It's very plausible that all of these things went down 209 00:13:15,245 --> 00:13:18,565 Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, I don't think it's that crazy. I've 210 00:13:18,565 --> 00:13:22,885 Speaker 1: heard crazier. Wait, did her tombstone say lived once, married 211 00:13:22,925 --> 00:13:27,005 Speaker 1: twice or died twice twice? Oh, buried? I thought they 212 00:13:27,005 --> 00:13:30,005 Speaker 1: were going to such a she was married twice though, 213 00:13:30,205 --> 00:13:31,925 Speaker 1: Well I think, yeah, I just feel like that would 214 00:13:31,925 --> 00:13:33,845 Speaker 1: be a woman's life. Though it's like this bitch came 215 00:13:33,885 --> 00:13:36,605 Speaker 1: back like Barry twice. But the like, no, we're going 216 00:13:36,685 --> 00:13:43,685 Speaker 1: to talk about the married part was exactly yes. Yeah, Okay, Well, 217 00:13:43,925 --> 00:13:49,365 Speaker 1: thanks Taylor for telling us all about uh, Marjorie not Oceania? 218 00:13:49,445 --> 00:13:53,485 Speaker 1: What was the name? You liked? What I have always 219 00:13:53,525 --> 00:13:56,485 Speaker 1: wanted to name my future children. If I ever have children, 220 00:13:57,285 --> 00:13:59,725 Speaker 1: all of them you're going to name them that same name. 221 00:14:00,245 --> 00:14:08,445 Speaker 1: Oh ye, perfect doesn't matter because gender's performance anyways. Okay, 222 00:14:08,845 --> 00:14:11,725 Speaker 1: well who okay, thanks Taylor. We'll be right back talking 223 00:14:11,765 --> 00:14:20,285 Speaker 1: more about some gray robbing. Okay, welcome back to Cadaver 224 00:14:20,445 --> 00:14:25,885 Speaker 1: Gau's Wow. Marjorie McCall died twice cashtag girl boss. Truly 225 00:14:25,885 --> 00:14:31,325 Speaker 1: incredible and as Taylor alluded to those medical students, um, 226 00:14:31,525 --> 00:14:35,165 Speaker 1: that was a thing. Can confirm, Taylor, you weren't gas 227 00:14:35,285 --> 00:14:38,845 Speaker 1: lighting us. That was a thing that happened. Um. Okay, 228 00:14:39,325 --> 00:14:42,045 Speaker 1: So people are snatching bodies, they're trying to get them, 229 00:14:42,085 --> 00:14:45,205 Speaker 1: because basically you'd have these gray robbers, which were often 230 00:14:45,245 --> 00:14:48,925 Speaker 1: called like resurrectionist ooh fun name. What a way to 231 00:14:49,005 --> 00:14:53,645 Speaker 1: make that sound less shitty. Yeah, I'm a resurrectionist, not 232 00:14:53,765 --> 00:14:58,005 Speaker 1: a robber. That sounds like bodies. That literally sounds like 233 00:14:58,045 --> 00:15:02,565 Speaker 1: an imagine Dragon's spinoff band resurrect. Well. Also, I mean 234 00:15:02,605 --> 00:15:05,645 Speaker 1: also they were called like the body snatchers too, which 235 00:15:05,805 --> 00:15:09,685 Speaker 1: you know, we're snatching bodies. That's like a sexy grave robber, right, 236 00:15:10,205 --> 00:15:12,125 Speaker 1: but yeah, the heyday for this to happen was like 237 00:15:12,165 --> 00:15:15,005 Speaker 1: the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries. So let's go to the 238 00:15:15,125 --> 00:15:17,245 Speaker 1: UK and talk kind of what happened there. So what 239 00:15:17,885 --> 00:15:22,445 Speaker 1: had happened was that in seventeen fifty two they passed 240 00:15:22,485 --> 00:15:27,445 Speaker 1: the Murder Act, which meant instead of having executed people's 241 00:15:27,525 --> 00:15:29,965 Speaker 1: bodies on display, because that's often what they would happen, 242 00:15:29,925 --> 00:15:32,125 Speaker 1: it is like you get executed and then we're gonna 243 00:15:32,125 --> 00:15:35,245 Speaker 1: like just show people your body. So it's extra bad 244 00:15:35,765 --> 00:15:38,485 Speaker 1: what they said what they said in seventeen fifty two, 245 00:15:38,525 --> 00:15:42,685 Speaker 1: because there's this like huge increase of like medical studies 246 00:15:42,685 --> 00:15:45,965 Speaker 1: at this point, a lot more anatomists. They're like, hey, 247 00:15:46,005 --> 00:15:49,565 Speaker 1: when you execute people, now you can have a public dissection, 248 00:15:49,725 --> 00:15:51,365 Speaker 1: or you can just have the body for you know, 249 00:15:51,565 --> 00:15:54,605 Speaker 1: private dissection, whatever kind of dissection you want to have 250 00:15:54,925 --> 00:15:59,645 Speaker 1: private dissection. That sounds nasty. I feel like, yeah, there 251 00:15:59,645 --> 00:16:03,325 Speaker 1: needs to be as sex supervisor. No, somebody needs to 252 00:16:03,325 --> 00:16:06,205 Speaker 1: be supervisor. I'm gonna text play a partner to privately 253 00:16:06,285 --> 00:16:11,165 Speaker 1: dissect you, Okay. But the thing is, even after that happened, 254 00:16:11,165 --> 00:16:13,845 Speaker 1: because there had been this explosion of medical science, even 255 00:16:13,885 --> 00:16:17,005 Speaker 1: after that, they're like, we still don't have enough bodies. 256 00:16:17,685 --> 00:16:20,245 Speaker 1: We need more bodies. You should have gone a friends 257 00:16:20,565 --> 00:16:25,365 Speaker 1: friends had so many bodies did Oh yes, Paris the ctacombs, 258 00:16:25,405 --> 00:16:27,565 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they should have gotten those. The problem with 259 00:16:27,605 --> 00:16:30,005 Speaker 1: those those is that they had been rotted. Though. You 260 00:16:30,045 --> 00:16:33,485 Speaker 1: need fresh bodies. You need fresh That's why you would 261 00:16:33,485 --> 00:16:35,565 Speaker 1: only have to guard your loved one's graves for a 262 00:16:35,605 --> 00:16:37,645 Speaker 1: few days, because after that then they're like, nay, we 263 00:16:37,685 --> 00:16:44,285 Speaker 1: don't really want that anymore. The medical students specific I know, honestly, 264 00:16:44,325 --> 00:16:46,325 Speaker 1: they want a fresh body just so they can like 265 00:16:46,445 --> 00:16:48,445 Speaker 1: it can be more like a realistic body, so that 266 00:16:48,485 --> 00:16:51,525 Speaker 1: they can figure out how to like heal people, uh whatever. 267 00:16:52,285 --> 00:16:55,525 Speaker 1: I mean, they probably learned some stuff on this right 268 00:16:55,605 --> 00:16:58,325 Speaker 1: on these bodies, on these cadavers, right, I mean they 269 00:16:58,365 --> 00:17:00,165 Speaker 1: were trying to learn stuff. I mean that was the point. 270 00:17:00,205 --> 00:17:02,325 Speaker 1: It wasn't just like a I mean it is kind 271 00:17:02,365 --> 00:17:09,365 Speaker 1: of a weird hobby being act not suggesting anyone does that. Yeah, anyway, 272 00:17:10,125 --> 00:17:13,485 Speaker 1: so people, they still they wanted more bodies. They need more. 273 00:17:13,925 --> 00:17:15,845 Speaker 1: Even with all the Gray Robin and all the ship 274 00:17:15,965 --> 00:17:19,685 Speaker 1: like that, it got so out of hand that there 275 00:17:19,685 --> 00:17:23,045 Speaker 1: were these two dudes who just what they did instead 276 00:17:23,085 --> 00:17:26,325 Speaker 1: of just like body snatching what they just started murdering people. 277 00:17:26,525 --> 00:17:28,805 Speaker 1: You know, they just were like, hey, you know these 278 00:17:29,045 --> 00:17:31,645 Speaker 1: this anatomus, this bro he needs some bodies, So why 279 00:17:31,685 --> 00:17:36,365 Speaker 1: don't we just kill people, you know, take out. It's like, 280 00:17:36,365 --> 00:17:38,045 Speaker 1: we don't even have to dig someone up, you know, 281 00:17:38,085 --> 00:17:40,565 Speaker 1: shoveling can be really hard. They're like, we're just gonna 282 00:17:40,605 --> 00:17:43,645 Speaker 1: kill them. So it was these two Williams. There's William 283 00:17:43,805 --> 00:17:48,405 Speaker 1: Burke and William Hare and they killed over the course 284 00:17:48,445 --> 00:17:53,765 Speaker 1: of ten months in eighteen twenty eight, they killed sixteen 285 00:17:53,885 --> 00:17:58,645 Speaker 1: people and sold them nice and fresh okay, nice fresh 286 00:17:58,685 --> 00:18:02,125 Speaker 1: corpses for the medical people. They actually came up with 287 00:18:02,165 --> 00:18:04,285 Speaker 1: a verb. It was like if you it was a 288 00:18:04,405 --> 00:18:07,605 Speaker 1: verb to mean like, if you were murdered in order 289 00:18:07,645 --> 00:18:10,645 Speaker 1: to be provided to like medical people, you got burped. 290 00:18:10,725 --> 00:18:16,205 Speaker 1: Oh oh my god. Wow that is bad. That's bad. 291 00:18:16,445 --> 00:18:20,485 Speaker 1: Two questions one I forgot the second one. So we'll 292 00:18:20,525 --> 00:18:23,805 Speaker 1: see how much were they saw? Oh I remember how 293 00:18:23,885 --> 00:18:27,565 Speaker 1: much were they selling them? For A and B? How 294 00:18:27,605 --> 00:18:31,125 Speaker 1: are they killing them? Because I feel like did like 295 00:18:31,165 --> 00:18:34,925 Speaker 1: invocation no breath? Well some of them were suffocated, and 296 00:18:34,965 --> 00:18:37,965 Speaker 1: like some of them were like, well, you know, maybe 297 00:18:37,965 --> 00:18:41,125 Speaker 1: she was already suffocating and then they just helped her 298 00:18:41,165 --> 00:18:44,325 Speaker 1: on suffocating. So I feel like choking out people was 299 00:18:44,365 --> 00:18:45,965 Speaker 1: like a pretty good way to kill people. So you 300 00:18:45,965 --> 00:18:48,405 Speaker 1: could still like preserve most of the body because obviously 301 00:18:48,445 --> 00:18:52,005 Speaker 1: if you like stab them, you know that's not come 302 00:18:52,245 --> 00:18:55,325 Speaker 1: to be outers. Yeah, the inner or outould become outers 303 00:18:55,365 --> 00:18:58,125 Speaker 1: and they can't see. Yeah, you can't like study them 304 00:18:58,205 --> 00:19:01,085 Speaker 1: very well. So choking was one way that they did it. 305 00:19:01,485 --> 00:19:04,645 Speaker 1: And in terms of the price, I don't know exactly, 306 00:19:04,685 --> 00:19:07,165 Speaker 1: but it does seem like a pretty good price. This 307 00:19:07,245 --> 00:19:09,645 Speaker 1: seems pretty oother. People were making livelihoods off of like 308 00:19:10,405 --> 00:19:15,245 Speaker 1: body snatching. It was the med students like not like no, 309 00:19:15,365 --> 00:19:17,285 Speaker 1: it wasn't the med students. They were the med students 310 00:19:17,285 --> 00:19:20,725 Speaker 1: were like buying the bodies or it was like you know, 311 00:19:21,485 --> 00:19:23,645 Speaker 1: any sort of like medical practitioner would buy the bodies. 312 00:19:23,685 --> 00:19:25,445 Speaker 1: It's just other people who are like, oh, this is 313 00:19:25,445 --> 00:19:27,325 Speaker 1: my job. I snatched the bodies and give it and 314 00:19:27,325 --> 00:19:32,245 Speaker 1: then sell them. Basically what a what a job? What 315 00:19:32,565 --> 00:19:34,925 Speaker 1: a job? Job? Just like aren't what they used to 316 00:19:34,965 --> 00:19:39,845 Speaker 1: be honestly anyway, So m William Burke he ended up 317 00:19:39,925 --> 00:19:43,685 Speaker 1: getting executed after they caught them, and then his body 318 00:19:44,005 --> 00:19:48,405 Speaker 1: was given to dissection. So good I was hoping, So yeah, 319 00:19:48,645 --> 00:19:52,445 Speaker 1: very appropriate and so watch out for getting burked. That 320 00:19:52,605 --> 00:19:58,125 Speaker 1: literally sounds like, oh you've been punked burked. Then, like 321 00:19:58,245 --> 00:20:01,325 Speaker 1: the law people, people in charge of the law, they 322 00:20:01,325 --> 00:20:04,205 Speaker 1: were just like, hey, well maybe we should do something 323 00:20:04,525 --> 00:20:07,045 Speaker 1: about this body situation because it seems to be getting 324 00:20:07,045 --> 00:20:09,485 Speaker 1: a little out of hand with people just like murdering people. 325 00:20:10,885 --> 00:20:13,285 Speaker 1: So what they did was in eighteen thirty two, they 326 00:20:13,325 --> 00:20:18,205 Speaker 1: passed the Anatomy Act, which allowed people to dissect bodies 327 00:20:18,245 --> 00:20:21,045 Speaker 1: that were like donated, and also made it legal to 328 00:20:21,085 --> 00:20:24,925 Speaker 1: dissect bodies of like unidentified people who worked in workhouses 329 00:20:24,925 --> 00:20:29,365 Speaker 1: and people who volunteered. This didn't really slow down. This 330 00:20:29,405 --> 00:20:33,725 Speaker 1: didn't really slow down body snatching. What did really slow 331 00:20:33,725 --> 00:20:36,285 Speaker 1: it down was in the eighteen eighties when embalming became 332 00:20:36,285 --> 00:20:38,685 Speaker 1: a thing, because then you could preserve bodies for longer 333 00:20:38,725 --> 00:20:41,485 Speaker 1: and they didn't just fall apart and be useless because 334 00:20:41,485 --> 00:20:43,365 Speaker 1: you could really only use it for a couple of days. 335 00:20:43,885 --> 00:20:45,885 Speaker 1: But once you could embalm bodies, you could like look 336 00:20:45,885 --> 00:20:47,925 Speaker 1: at the same body for a longer period of time, 337 00:20:48,165 --> 00:20:51,285 Speaker 1: you didn't need to snatch as many bodies, and everyone 338 00:20:51,485 --> 00:20:58,445 Speaker 1: was happy. Hey, good, good conclusion. Everyone's happy. Now. Okay, 339 00:20:59,165 --> 00:21:01,605 Speaker 1: so now I guess people are just snatching bodies for 340 00:21:01,765 --> 00:21:08,165 Speaker 1: fun and not for medicine. So so there's not a 341 00:21:08,205 --> 00:21:12,205 Speaker 1: good conclusion. They were going somewhere, but they're all people 342 00:21:12,245 --> 00:21:16,485 Speaker 1: are always going to be killing people. Yeah, they're like, 343 00:21:16,645 --> 00:21:21,285 Speaker 1: that's just I suppose. So there's no there's not going 344 00:21:21,325 --> 00:21:25,205 Speaker 1: to be a world where people stop being crazy. That's true. 345 00:21:26,005 --> 00:21:31,965 Speaker 1: Speaking of killing, Nika is gonna kill on her story, 346 00:21:32,165 --> 00:21:36,565 Speaker 1: It's gonna be filled with twists and turns and creepy 347 00:21:36,645 --> 00:21:41,125 Speaker 1: wax things would be ever an ominous presence. Yes, there 348 00:21:41,285 --> 00:21:45,685 Speaker 1: is not just one wax museum, but two wax museums 349 00:21:45,805 --> 00:21:50,765 Speaker 1: in this story. Argue, kidding me, No, do I do 350 00:21:50,805 --> 00:21:54,525 Speaker 1: it for you guys? So let's get into the story. Um, 351 00:21:54,565 --> 00:21:59,885 Speaker 1: this is a it's a pretty bizarre story set in Arlington, 352 00:22:00,045 --> 00:22:08,205 Speaker 1: Texas in nineteen eighty seven. Um seven. Yeah, So I 353 00:22:08,245 --> 00:22:11,405 Speaker 1: don't know relatively recent we got late eighties whatever. I 354 00:22:11,405 --> 00:22:12,885 Speaker 1: don't know what was happening in the late eighties. I 355 00:22:12,885 --> 00:22:16,405 Speaker 1: wasn't born, Okay. I think the end Ago Girls released 356 00:22:16,405 --> 00:22:20,005 Speaker 1: their first album, There we Go, There we Go. We 357 00:22:20,085 --> 00:22:24,525 Speaker 1: got some trivia. So Patsy Wright was forty three years 358 00:22:24,525 --> 00:22:28,245 Speaker 1: old when she called her sister Sally at three am, 359 00:22:28,485 --> 00:22:31,965 Speaker 1: saying that something was really wrong. She had taken her 360 00:22:32,125 --> 00:22:35,645 Speaker 1: nightly ni quill, which she used to fall asleep almost 361 00:22:35,645 --> 00:22:37,685 Speaker 1: every night, and kind of her family and friends knew 362 00:22:37,685 --> 00:22:39,925 Speaker 1: that she had this habit. And she said, in slurred 363 00:22:39,965 --> 00:22:44,125 Speaker 1: words that her stomach was hurting and that she couldn't breathe. 364 00:22:44,445 --> 00:22:46,845 Speaker 1: And that's like weird. Niquill isn't supposed to do that. 365 00:22:47,685 --> 00:22:52,045 Speaker 1: Oh it shouldn't be laughing. Okay, is ni quill that strong? Yeah? 366 00:22:52,085 --> 00:22:56,205 Speaker 1: It kind of n it. It's I remember one time 367 00:22:56,245 --> 00:22:58,165 Speaker 1: I was like, I was not feeling so hot, and 368 00:22:58,205 --> 00:22:59,805 Speaker 1: so I took some ni quill, but like I had 369 00:22:59,845 --> 00:23:03,045 Speaker 1: to run an errand first, A well, not first. I 370 00:23:03,085 --> 00:23:06,325 Speaker 1: took the ni quill, ran the errand, and I was like, oh, shoot, 371 00:23:06,445 --> 00:23:10,925 Speaker 1: I need to get back before I died. That's scary. 372 00:23:11,245 --> 00:23:13,445 Speaker 1: But also this is a niquill from the eighties, so 373 00:23:13,485 --> 00:23:15,605 Speaker 1: I feel like it it was probably a little stronger 374 00:23:16,205 --> 00:23:21,725 Speaker 1: Umann in the eighties. Okay, when were you when we 375 00:23:21,605 --> 00:23:25,005 Speaker 1: were in wet year eighty eight? Oh my gosh, this 376 00:23:25,045 --> 00:23:27,765 Speaker 1: is a year before you were born. Of this is 377 00:23:27,765 --> 00:23:33,445 Speaker 1: the precursor to Taylor's conception this whole story right, well, yes, 378 00:23:33,805 --> 00:23:37,285 Speaker 1: this this means something for Taylor okay. So her sister 379 00:23:37,445 --> 00:23:41,125 Speaker 1: Sally and her husband, Sally's husband Um, immediately went over 380 00:23:41,165 --> 00:23:43,725 Speaker 1: to the rental the Patsy was staying in and the 381 00:23:43,805 --> 00:23:47,085 Speaker 1: door was locked, but the lights were on, so Stephen 382 00:23:47,285 --> 00:23:50,725 Speaker 1: the husband, broke a window and let Sally in And 383 00:23:51,005 --> 00:23:54,645 Speaker 1: when they found Patsy, she was unconscious and her eyes 384 00:23:54,685 --> 00:23:57,285 Speaker 1: were like open but foggy, like she wasn't really seeing, 385 00:23:57,805 --> 00:24:00,565 Speaker 1: and the alarm the Patsy had installed just a few 386 00:24:00,605 --> 00:24:02,885 Speaker 1: months prior didn't ring, so like it wasn't set up. 387 00:24:03,285 --> 00:24:06,285 Speaker 1: So Sally called the police and param Eddis, who arrived 388 00:24:06,285 --> 00:24:09,005 Speaker 1: pretty quickly, and they took Patsy to the emergency room, 389 00:24:09,045 --> 00:24:12,565 Speaker 1: but it was too late. She was declared deceased at 390 00:24:12,605 --> 00:24:19,845 Speaker 1: four or fifteen am. Wait was Stephen the sister's husband. Yes, 391 00:24:20,125 --> 00:24:25,485 Speaker 1: O husband's I know. And it gets crazier from there. 392 00:24:25,565 --> 00:24:31,405 Speaker 1: So Patsy was a beautiful, very wealthy Texas socialite and businesswoman. 393 00:24:31,725 --> 00:24:35,365 Speaker 1: She was a shareholder of the Southwest Historical Wax Museum 394 00:24:35,445 --> 00:24:39,805 Speaker 1: in Grand Prairie, Texas, which, oh yeah, which was worth 395 00:24:39,885 --> 00:24:43,565 Speaker 1: six million at the time. Good for her, It's pretty crazy. 396 00:24:43,565 --> 00:24:46,445 Speaker 1: I'm like, how does a wax museum make so much money? Anyway? 397 00:24:47,445 --> 00:24:50,245 Speaker 1: Her dad was an oilman with his passion for tex 398 00:24:50,365 --> 00:24:52,725 Speaker 1: In history, and then she and her sister grew up 399 00:24:52,765 --> 00:24:55,685 Speaker 1: like super privileged. They lived very sheltered lives in the 400 00:24:55,725 --> 00:24:59,485 Speaker 1: South and she was easily like a millionaire, her and 401 00:24:59,525 --> 00:25:01,965 Speaker 1: her sister, And she was in the process of moving 402 00:25:01,965 --> 00:25:04,925 Speaker 1: to the country. She had actually bought thirty acres of 403 00:25:04,925 --> 00:25:09,045 Speaker 1: property and a beautiful big house that was currently being renovated. Um. 404 00:25:09,245 --> 00:25:12,245 Speaker 1: She also had she bought this horse and a mare, 405 00:25:12,685 --> 00:25:14,845 Speaker 1: and she was going to start breeding them, and she 406 00:25:14,925 --> 00:25:17,645 Speaker 1: was beginning to ride in competitions, and she was kind 407 00:25:17,645 --> 00:25:22,485 Speaker 1: of getting into the world of fancy horse rearing essentially. 408 00:25:22,525 --> 00:25:27,645 Speaker 1: So her life was her or like she is me yeah, yeah, 409 00:25:27,925 --> 00:25:31,045 Speaker 1: well I hope not, but yeah, Um, her life was 410 00:25:31,085 --> 00:25:35,845 Speaker 1: going full speed ahead. Basically she loved life. And this 411 00:25:36,325 --> 00:25:38,725 Speaker 1: plus the fact that there was no suicide note in 412 00:25:38,845 --> 00:25:41,125 Speaker 1: her alarm, like her clock was even set for the 413 00:25:41,165 --> 00:25:43,765 Speaker 1: next day, and everyone who knew her said like she 414 00:25:43,845 --> 00:25:46,485 Speaker 1: was vivacious and like looking forward to the future and 415 00:25:46,485 --> 00:25:49,605 Speaker 1: blah blah, made it very easy to rule out suicide. 416 00:25:50,125 --> 00:25:54,125 Speaker 1: So this toxicology report confirmed that the Nike will Patsy 417 00:25:54,205 --> 00:26:02,925 Speaker 1: took was actually pure strict nan and oh I've talked 418 00:26:02,965 --> 00:26:07,085 Speaker 1: about it. It had enough poison to kill eight people, 419 00:26:07,525 --> 00:26:09,565 Speaker 1: and we've like we said, we've talked about this before, 420 00:26:09,605 --> 00:26:12,925 Speaker 1: but just to summarize, strictnine is a lethal poison that 421 00:26:13,045 --> 00:26:16,565 Speaker 1: is super hard to find. It used to be found 422 00:26:16,605 --> 00:26:19,645 Speaker 1: in like rat killer or like rodent poison or whatever, 423 00:26:19,685 --> 00:26:21,525 Speaker 1: but even now it's not really used for that because 424 00:26:21,525 --> 00:26:26,045 Speaker 1: it's so aggressive and kind of inhumane. But like even 425 00:26:26,085 --> 00:26:29,205 Speaker 1: the poisons that are rodent killers, they only contain three 426 00:26:29,245 --> 00:26:32,125 Speaker 1: percent of strictnine, and Patsy was killed with the powdered 427 00:26:32,325 --> 00:26:35,525 Speaker 1: pure version of strictnine. And it's a very very painful 428 00:26:35,565 --> 00:26:39,805 Speaker 1: way to die. The victim experiences suffocation, convulsions, and the 429 00:26:39,925 --> 00:26:45,525 Speaker 1: paralysis of the respiratory muscles before dying, and basically between 430 00:26:45,565 --> 00:26:48,605 Speaker 1: every convulsion there's like a moment of like no convulsions 431 00:26:48,605 --> 00:26:50,325 Speaker 1: when you feel normal, but you know it's like going 432 00:26:50,405 --> 00:26:52,845 Speaker 1: to come again. That usually happens like three times before 433 00:26:52,885 --> 00:26:57,845 Speaker 1: you die. So it is not a great way to go. 434 00:26:57,925 --> 00:27:01,125 Speaker 1: It's a very aggressive poison and very hard to come 435 00:27:01,125 --> 00:27:05,845 Speaker 1: by anyway. So the FBI ruled out product tampering since 436 00:27:05,845 --> 00:27:08,205 Speaker 1: there were no other poisonings from the lot number of 437 00:27:08,285 --> 00:27:10,765 Speaker 1: the night Will bottle, So it was clearly a murder, 438 00:27:11,365 --> 00:27:14,005 Speaker 1: but investigators didn't really know where to begin, Like they 439 00:27:14,045 --> 00:27:16,005 Speaker 1: knew it had to be someone who was closed with Patsy. 440 00:27:16,285 --> 00:27:19,725 Speaker 1: Since the killer knew her nighttime night will habit, her routine, 441 00:27:19,965 --> 00:27:23,525 Speaker 1: the killer obviously had access to her products and like 442 00:27:23,925 --> 00:27:26,485 Speaker 1: her bedside table and whatever like that is just it's 443 00:27:26,605 --> 00:27:31,965 Speaker 1: very intimate. So the boyfriend, yeah, well who knows, here 444 00:27:31,965 --> 00:27:36,125 Speaker 1: we go the boyfriend? What are you talking about? Always 445 00:27:36,205 --> 00:27:41,485 Speaker 1: the boyfriend, never the boyfriend. So Patsy had been married twice, 446 00:27:41,885 --> 00:27:45,125 Speaker 1: once to a man named Bill Wright. They had two kids, 447 00:27:45,125 --> 00:27:47,645 Speaker 1: and the split was very amicable, and he actually was 448 00:27:47,685 --> 00:27:50,085 Speaker 1: the executor of her estate in her will, so they 449 00:27:50,085 --> 00:27:52,725 Speaker 1: were on good terms. And then after they broke up, 450 00:27:52,805 --> 00:27:59,325 Speaker 1: she met this guy called Bob Cox who had he's 451 00:27:59,325 --> 00:28:05,605 Speaker 1: already suspicious Cox, Okay, who who had initially? He is 452 00:28:05,605 --> 00:28:08,805 Speaker 1: already suspicious because listen, he had initially called to sell 453 00:28:09,005 --> 00:28:12,405 Speaker 1: his wax museum collection to the Southwest Historical Wax Museum, 454 00:28:12,645 --> 00:28:15,045 Speaker 1: and Bob was married at the time, but he started 455 00:28:15,045 --> 00:28:18,885 Speaker 1: pursuing Patsy and she was like, no, you need to 456 00:28:18,925 --> 00:28:21,805 Speaker 1: break it off with your wife before we move any further. 457 00:28:22,285 --> 00:28:26,325 Speaker 1: So he did but also he had all those wax figures. 458 00:28:26,405 --> 00:28:28,805 Speaker 1: That's weird. Yeah, they ended up never buying them, which 459 00:28:28,805 --> 00:28:31,645 Speaker 1: is really funny. Good. So he did leave his wife, 460 00:28:31,645 --> 00:28:34,565 Speaker 1: and then in nineteen eighty three they were married, and 461 00:28:34,685 --> 00:28:37,605 Speaker 1: his wax museum had burned down in a fire. So 462 00:28:37,805 --> 00:28:41,085 Speaker 1: basically he moved to where Patsy was and Bob's ex 463 00:28:41,165 --> 00:28:44,565 Speaker 1: warned Patsy that Bob was a gambler and that he 464 00:28:44,645 --> 00:28:47,845 Speaker 1: was in debt, and sure enough, basically the moment they married. 465 00:28:48,205 --> 00:28:52,085 Speaker 1: Patsy says that Bob changed immediately. He was like verbally 466 00:28:52,085 --> 00:28:55,485 Speaker 1: abusive to herself and to her children, and she wanted 467 00:28:55,485 --> 00:28:58,125 Speaker 1: to stay in Arlington until her children graduated high school. 468 00:28:58,165 --> 00:29:01,205 Speaker 1: And he resented her, and like he resented Arlington because 469 00:29:01,205 --> 00:29:03,485 Speaker 1: it was like a small town. He would play poker 470 00:29:03,565 --> 00:29:06,085 Speaker 1: every single day at the country club he belong too, 471 00:29:06,285 --> 00:29:10,485 Speaker 1: and Patsy was paying for all their living expenses. Wow, 472 00:29:10,965 --> 00:29:14,885 Speaker 1: that's fucked up. I do not like that. It got 473 00:29:14,965 --> 00:29:18,405 Speaker 1: really bad when the IRS tried to tie Patsy's earnings 474 00:29:18,445 --> 00:29:21,405 Speaker 1: to Bob's tax debt, which was in the three hundred 475 00:29:21,445 --> 00:29:26,205 Speaker 1: thousand dollars range. Wow. Thankfully, thankfully, thankfully, she's very smart. 476 00:29:26,245 --> 00:29:28,925 Speaker 1: She was a very smart businesswoman. She had signed a 477 00:29:28,965 --> 00:29:31,645 Speaker 1: prenup to protect herself, and then she filed for divorce 478 00:29:31,685 --> 00:29:34,645 Speaker 1: a year after their wedding, and she also filed for 479 00:29:34,685 --> 00:29:37,765 Speaker 1: a restraining order a month after filing for divorce because 480 00:29:37,805 --> 00:29:40,165 Speaker 1: she said that Bob would follow her and park outside 481 00:29:40,205 --> 00:29:42,245 Speaker 1: her house at night. And then one question about this, 482 00:29:42,365 --> 00:29:44,445 Speaker 1: Bob said that it was because he was worried Patsy 483 00:29:44,485 --> 00:29:49,725 Speaker 1: would take his country club membership in the divorce. Okay, 484 00:29:50,365 --> 00:29:55,565 Speaker 1: Bob Cox is a dick. Yes, So at some point 485 00:29:55,645 --> 00:29:58,965 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty six, Bob stopped stalking her and just 486 00:29:59,005 --> 00:30:02,765 Speaker 1: like went on to live his life. Happened you, Just like, 487 00:30:03,045 --> 00:30:10,165 Speaker 1: I'm done stalking. I don't know. I even stalkers get tired. Okay. 488 00:30:10,565 --> 00:30:15,085 Speaker 1: Empathy for stalkers, I'm kidding, they can all joy okay. Sally, 489 00:30:15,725 --> 00:30:19,605 Speaker 1: Patsy's sister, had also remarried. She was with the guy 490 00:30:19,645 --> 00:30:23,965 Speaker 1: we mentioned, Steve, who Patsy liked it first, but when 491 00:30:23,965 --> 00:30:25,885 Speaker 1: she found out that just a few years after the wedding, 492 00:30:26,045 --> 00:30:30,165 Speaker 1: Steve spent all of Sally's inheritance yea, she did not 493 00:30:30,325 --> 00:30:33,605 Speaker 1: like him so much. Then both sisters had five hundred 494 00:30:33,605 --> 00:30:37,445 Speaker 1: thousand life insurance policies, and they had this buysell agreement together, 495 00:30:37,525 --> 00:30:39,565 Speaker 1: so like if one sister dies, the other had to 496 00:30:39,645 --> 00:30:42,365 Speaker 1: use the money to buy the deceased sister's share of stock, 497 00:30:42,645 --> 00:30:45,485 Speaker 1: so that way one sister remained sole owner of the museum. 498 00:30:45,925 --> 00:30:48,605 Speaker 1: I cannot believe that the wax Museum made so much 499 00:30:48,645 --> 00:30:51,645 Speaker 1: money anyway, and it was like such a prized whatever anyway, 500 00:30:52,085 --> 00:30:56,045 Speaker 1: So the museum's value had grown substantially. And then Sally 501 00:30:56,085 --> 00:30:59,485 Speaker 1: got cancer, and so both their grandparents and their parents 502 00:30:59,525 --> 00:31:01,605 Speaker 1: had died of cancer. So Patsy was like very worried 503 00:31:01,605 --> 00:31:05,445 Speaker 1: about Sally's health, and more than that, she really recognized 504 00:31:05,525 --> 00:31:07,725 Speaker 1: that if Sally died, Steve would end up with half 505 00:31:07,765 --> 00:31:12,885 Speaker 1: a million dollars and like the shares from the wax Museum, 506 00:31:12,925 --> 00:31:15,205 Speaker 1: and they didn't want that. So Sally got better. But 507 00:31:15,285 --> 00:31:18,365 Speaker 1: the sisters agreed to change the Bicell deal that they had, 508 00:31:18,525 --> 00:31:20,605 Speaker 1: and they had scheduled a meeting to change it, but 509 00:31:20,645 --> 00:31:27,165 Speaker 1: Patsy was killed two weeks before it happened. Interesting, so 510 00:31:27,205 --> 00:31:30,285 Speaker 1: Steve was a suspect as well, and he took two 511 00:31:30,325 --> 00:31:33,005 Speaker 1: polygraph tests and the first was inconclusive, and then the 512 00:31:33,045 --> 00:31:36,405 Speaker 1: second one he passed. Which polygraph tests you don't always. 513 00:31:36,605 --> 00:31:40,005 Speaker 1: I don't know, they're not very reliable. But also it 514 00:31:40,045 --> 00:31:42,165 Speaker 1: was the eighties. I don't know. It's like an at 515 00:31:42,165 --> 00:31:45,965 Speaker 1: home COVID test. I guess, so, yeah, it's gonna give 516 00:31:46,005 --> 00:31:48,245 Speaker 1: you a false positive. It's like things in the eighties 517 00:31:48,285 --> 00:31:53,285 Speaker 1: aren't reliable, like Taylor. I think Taylor's actually pretty reliable. 518 00:31:54,845 --> 00:31:58,645 Speaker 1: There were other suspects too, Like there was this couple, 519 00:31:59,125 --> 00:32:02,605 Speaker 1: Bill and Bonnie Alexander, who had sold Patsy the horse 520 00:32:02,845 --> 00:32:05,165 Speaker 1: that Patsy had bought, and they were actually boarding the 521 00:32:05,205 --> 00:32:07,205 Speaker 1: horse and taking care of it before Patsy moved to 522 00:32:07,245 --> 00:32:09,725 Speaker 1: the country. Patsy had also lived with them for a 523 00:32:09,765 --> 00:32:12,165 Speaker 1: month and she was taking writing lessons and they were 524 00:32:12,205 --> 00:32:15,365 Speaker 1: all very close. It gave me throuple vibes. Cph but 525 00:32:15,765 --> 00:32:18,445 Speaker 1: we will never know. And Bill and Bonnie cashed a 526 00:32:18,565 --> 00:32:21,245 Speaker 1: check from Patsy the day before she died, and it 527 00:32:21,285 --> 00:32:23,405 Speaker 1: was a four thousand dollars check for like writing in 528 00:32:23,445 --> 00:32:26,405 Speaker 1: competition fees, And according to them, Patsy had given them 529 00:32:26,445 --> 00:32:28,845 Speaker 1: a blank check and signed it saying, just like, put 530 00:32:28,885 --> 00:32:30,525 Speaker 1: whatever I owe you in there and cash it like 531 00:32:30,565 --> 00:32:33,165 Speaker 1: it's fine. And Patsy talked to her accountant that same 532 00:32:33,285 --> 00:32:35,325 Speaker 1: day that she gave them the blank check, and the 533 00:32:35,325 --> 00:32:38,205 Speaker 1: accountant asked if she had any big payments or withdrawals 534 00:32:38,205 --> 00:32:41,125 Speaker 1: that she should know about, because she was in the 535 00:32:41,125 --> 00:32:44,565 Speaker 1: process of withdrawing like one fifty K for her new 536 00:32:44,605 --> 00:32:46,845 Speaker 1: house in the country, and Patsy was like, no, but 537 00:32:46,925 --> 00:32:49,685 Speaker 1: I also feel like four K was probably not a 538 00:32:49,725 --> 00:32:52,485 Speaker 1: big deal for her, and so like the check went 539 00:32:52,525 --> 00:32:54,525 Speaker 1: through and that's probably why she didn't mention it to 540 00:32:54,565 --> 00:32:57,125 Speaker 1: the accountant, but that they were still a suspect because 541 00:32:57,725 --> 00:33:01,845 Speaker 1: people started saying that, I don't know, they like Bill 542 00:33:02,325 --> 00:33:04,685 Speaker 1: had an affair with Patsy, or Bonnie was jealous of 543 00:33:04,725 --> 00:33:06,885 Speaker 1: Patsy or whatever, or a bunch of rumors that actually 544 00:33:06,965 --> 00:33:12,005 Speaker 1: never proved to be true. Essentially, so they were other suspects. 545 00:33:12,285 --> 00:33:15,885 Speaker 1: And then about eleven months after Patsy's death, the Southwest 546 00:33:15,925 --> 00:33:19,565 Speaker 1: Wax Museum was destroyed by a fire, just like that 547 00:33:19,725 --> 00:33:25,565 Speaker 1: Dude's wax music very sketchy. Initially they thought it was 548 00:33:25,565 --> 00:33:28,165 Speaker 1: an electrical short, but then the fireman found that it 549 00:33:28,205 --> 00:33:32,045 Speaker 1: was actually arson. In a matter of minutes, the massive 550 00:33:32,085 --> 00:33:34,005 Speaker 1: museum was like totally on fire. It was a really 551 00:33:34,005 --> 00:33:38,005 Speaker 1: big building. And also the case file was stolen from investigators. 552 00:33:39,085 --> 00:33:43,405 Speaker 1: It's like very aggressive. All of the wax sculptures melted. Yeah, 553 00:33:43,405 --> 00:33:46,085 Speaker 1: they rebuilt it, but obviously like it wasn't the same. Sorry, 554 00:33:46,125 --> 00:33:48,765 Speaker 1: I was thinking of all the melted wax like figures 555 00:33:48,845 --> 00:33:51,445 Speaker 1: like that's actually kind of a cool museum. Was just 556 00:33:51,485 --> 00:33:54,925 Speaker 1: like all the melts, like slightly melted people Like if 557 00:33:55,005 --> 00:33:57,605 Speaker 1: Mam two sards like was on fire and then you 558 00:33:57,645 --> 00:34:00,405 Speaker 1: just had like a Brad Pitt wax sculpture that was 559 00:34:00,445 --> 00:34:04,765 Speaker 1: like slightly you would you would absolutely love. I'm developing 560 00:34:04,765 --> 00:34:09,045 Speaker 1: a plan now, oh ooh okay, wow, careful with some arson. 561 00:34:10,645 --> 00:34:13,165 Speaker 1: She'll just keep the temperature up so that they like 562 00:34:13,845 --> 00:34:16,645 Speaker 1: kind of slowly melt over, slowly melt and so it's 563 00:34:16,645 --> 00:34:22,165 Speaker 1: ever changing. Why is Angelina Jolie crying mommy? And it's like, yeah, 564 00:34:22,205 --> 00:34:26,565 Speaker 1: that's fine. Anyway, So that wax museum burned down. We 565 00:34:26,645 --> 00:34:30,325 Speaker 1: know that Bob Cox's wax museum also burned down, and 566 00:34:30,405 --> 00:34:32,805 Speaker 1: he was actually the primary suspect in all of this 567 00:34:33,445 --> 00:34:38,205 Speaker 1: because he sued the insurance company of his wax museum 568 00:34:38,245 --> 00:34:40,325 Speaker 1: that had burned down because they had not given him 569 00:34:40,365 --> 00:34:42,765 Speaker 1: the money that he was owed. But the insurance company 570 00:34:42,765 --> 00:34:45,285 Speaker 1: believed that he started the fire deliberately because he was 571 00:34:45,325 --> 00:34:47,965 Speaker 1: in terrible debt and the wax museum wasn't making any money. 572 00:34:48,325 --> 00:34:50,085 Speaker 1: And there was a trial that was supposed to happen 573 00:34:50,605 --> 00:34:54,085 Speaker 1: ten days after Patsy was murdered, and Patsy was going 574 00:34:54,125 --> 00:34:57,405 Speaker 1: to testify against her ex husband, and she knew things 575 00:34:57,485 --> 00:34:59,965 Speaker 1: and she was gonna talk despite him begging her to 576 00:35:00,085 --> 00:35:03,405 Speaker 1: change her story, but she wouldn't, and he refused to 577 00:35:03,405 --> 00:35:06,725 Speaker 1: take a polygraph test and was unco vertive an investigation, 578 00:35:07,205 --> 00:35:11,245 Speaker 1: but without solid evidence, he was left alone and the 579 00:35:11,325 --> 00:35:16,845 Speaker 1: case was never solved. I'm so sorry. And he died 580 00:35:16,885 --> 00:35:18,605 Speaker 1: I think like a couple of years ago, so we'll 581 00:35:18,605 --> 00:35:22,165 Speaker 1: never know. Did he die in an arson related and 582 00:35:22,445 --> 00:35:25,405 Speaker 1: said and no, I think it was just like natural causes, 583 00:35:25,845 --> 00:35:30,165 Speaker 1: being a dick, being hateful. Yes, exactly. Think he did it. 584 00:35:30,845 --> 00:35:32,925 Speaker 1: I think he did it too. Out of all of 585 00:35:32,965 --> 00:35:35,445 Speaker 1: the people, I think he did it. I think that 586 00:35:35,525 --> 00:35:38,725 Speaker 1: Stephen was kind of sketchy for sure, because they were 587 00:35:38,765 --> 00:35:40,765 Speaker 1: about to change that deal so that way he was 588 00:35:40,805 --> 00:35:42,685 Speaker 1: not going to have like the five hundred K life 589 00:35:42,685 --> 00:35:46,485 Speaker 1: insurance policy. But I think it's still all points to 590 00:35:46,525 --> 00:35:50,885 Speaker 1: Bob Cox. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I think the horse 591 00:35:50,965 --> 00:35:57,565 Speaker 1: did it. No, Taylor's very very effective. Four thousand dollars 592 00:35:57,565 --> 00:36:02,245 Speaker 1: for like horse things is not not plausible. Yeah, exactly. 593 00:36:02,285 --> 00:36:04,085 Speaker 1: So I'm like, I don't think it was a nice 594 00:36:04,125 --> 00:36:07,565 Speaker 1: couple and they should have been given more. No. No, 595 00:36:07,765 --> 00:36:10,405 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, that's that seems reasonable, like if 596 00:36:10,405 --> 00:36:14,605 Speaker 1: they were boarding them and lessons boarding her horses and stuff. Yeah, 597 00:36:14,685 --> 00:36:18,045 Speaker 1: it seems plausible based on the evidence that that was 598 00:36:18,085 --> 00:36:22,645 Speaker 1: a fair rate. You're right, I think they're fine, mister Cox. 599 00:36:22,845 --> 00:36:25,605 Speaker 1: What was the name Bill Bob. Also, I don't know 600 00:36:25,605 --> 00:36:28,485 Speaker 1: if horses would have the finesse of putting strychnine inside 601 00:36:28,485 --> 00:36:31,125 Speaker 1: like a ni quill bottle. No fence to horses. I'm 602 00:36:31,125 --> 00:36:34,285 Speaker 1: just saying they don't have thumbs. They don't have thumbs. Well, Nika, 603 00:36:34,405 --> 00:36:38,285 Speaker 1: thank you for that titillating story that has no conclusion. 604 00:36:38,965 --> 00:36:45,885 Speaker 1: M We'll be right back. Okay, guys, we're back with cadaver. 605 00:36:46,005 --> 00:36:51,045 Speaker 1: Gail's got one little part left about wax figures, okay, 606 00:36:51,485 --> 00:36:54,605 Speaker 1: because I think they're pretty creepy and weird, and I 607 00:36:54,645 --> 00:36:57,965 Speaker 1: think it's a weird part of the world that we have. 608 00:36:58,205 --> 00:37:00,325 Speaker 1: I feel like as a celebrity, it probably you get 609 00:37:00,365 --> 00:37:03,285 Speaker 1: either like your Hollywood star or you get like a 610 00:37:03,325 --> 00:37:06,965 Speaker 1: wax figure of you, and I don't I wouldn't want 611 00:37:07,005 --> 00:37:09,925 Speaker 1: one because what if it was bad? You know, no, 612 00:37:09,965 --> 00:37:14,885 Speaker 1: but that's funny, I don't know, probably funny. I would 613 00:37:14,925 --> 00:37:18,805 Speaker 1: be pretty offended. Yeah, Like remember the Nicki Minaje one 614 00:37:18,885 --> 00:37:22,765 Speaker 1: that was so terrible that was there was There's been 615 00:37:22,765 --> 00:37:26,325 Speaker 1: a few lately. Isn't there one that's specifically for like 616 00:37:26,325 --> 00:37:29,245 Speaker 1: like a museum that it's like bad wax figures or something. 617 00:37:29,965 --> 00:37:35,125 Speaker 1: Probably probably that's all of them. Okay, bad wax figures anyway, 618 00:37:35,485 --> 00:37:37,685 Speaker 1: they're pretty creepy because you know, they have that like 619 00:37:37,885 --> 00:37:41,085 Speaker 1: uncanny Valley thing where they're like kind of human but 620 00:37:41,125 --> 00:37:45,445 Speaker 1: like not exactly. Also, did they ever have wicks in them? 621 00:37:45,645 --> 00:37:47,325 Speaker 1: You know? What if that was just like a really 622 00:37:47,325 --> 00:37:51,325 Speaker 1: intense candle, like a really big human sized candle, I 623 00:37:51,365 --> 00:37:54,565 Speaker 1: feel like it'd be too tempting to light. Yeah, I 624 00:37:54,565 --> 00:37:57,925 Speaker 1: mean I would light it and then like ed sheering, 625 00:37:58,085 --> 00:38:00,885 Speaker 1: just like an air cheering candle, and then late his 626 00:38:01,005 --> 00:38:06,405 Speaker 1: face disappears. It sounds like a nightmare and sheer and 627 00:38:06,525 --> 00:38:10,685 Speaker 1: in particular, Yeah, um, I think he recently had one 628 00:38:10,725 --> 00:38:12,965 Speaker 1: revealed or something that I saw because I was looking 629 00:38:12,965 --> 00:38:15,245 Speaker 1: at I was like, yal do research on this, but 630 00:38:15,285 --> 00:38:19,725 Speaker 1: then I just looked at pictures anyway. So um sometimes though, 631 00:38:20,445 --> 00:38:22,885 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you're like, hey, that look at that 632 00:38:22,965 --> 00:38:25,845 Speaker 1: wax figure. But then you're like, oh, oopsie, it's it's 633 00:38:25,845 --> 00:38:29,525 Speaker 1: actually just a corpse. Um. You know when that happens. Why, 634 00:38:30,005 --> 00:38:32,845 Speaker 1: no one, that doesn't happen to you, guys on the 635 00:38:32,885 --> 00:38:35,725 Speaker 1: reg No, no one. Okay, I feel like that would 636 00:38:35,725 --> 00:38:40,645 Speaker 1: happen to you more. Yeah, it's like once a week, 637 00:38:40,885 --> 00:38:43,605 Speaker 1: once a week, I'm always finding a wax corpse, just 638 00:38:44,165 --> 00:38:47,765 Speaker 1: lingering around, you know, why you are the way you are? Yeah, 639 00:38:47,805 --> 00:38:50,805 Speaker 1: they just find me. I don't know how anyway. Well, okay, 640 00:38:50,885 --> 00:38:55,085 Speaker 1: so here's what happened. This happened one time and it 641 00:38:55,165 --> 00:38:58,485 Speaker 1: wasn't to me. It was in nineteen seventy six, and 642 00:38:58,685 --> 00:39:00,765 Speaker 1: what had happened was that there is a film crew 643 00:39:01,125 --> 00:39:03,845 Speaker 1: and they're making a movie in a fun house in 644 00:39:03,965 --> 00:39:08,285 Speaker 1: Long Beach, California. Okay, and so you know, it was 645 00:39:08,325 --> 00:39:10,965 Speaker 1: like a whole sort of like amusement park situation. But 646 00:39:11,005 --> 00:39:12,965 Speaker 1: then the fun house had just like you know, different 647 00:39:12,965 --> 00:39:16,365 Speaker 1: type of figures and other stuff, and they're filming inside 648 00:39:16,365 --> 00:39:19,445 Speaker 1: of it. And one of the people on the crew 649 00:39:19,605 --> 00:39:22,005 Speaker 1: was like, oh, look at that wax figure. That's kind 650 00:39:22,045 --> 00:39:24,525 Speaker 1: of like it's it was like hanging from the gallows scene. 651 00:39:24,565 --> 00:39:26,365 Speaker 1: It was like an outlaw scene. And he was like, oh, 652 00:39:26,445 --> 00:39:28,125 Speaker 1: look at that wax figure. We kind of don't want 653 00:39:28,165 --> 00:39:30,565 Speaker 1: it in the shot. So one of the crew members 654 00:39:30,565 --> 00:39:32,805 Speaker 1: went over and was trying to like move it, but 655 00:39:32,885 --> 00:39:36,685 Speaker 1: then its arm fell off, and they're like, oh, that's 656 00:39:36,725 --> 00:39:40,285 Speaker 1: so silly of us that we broke their wax figure. Oopsies. 657 00:39:41,325 --> 00:39:44,565 Speaker 1: And then he was like, wait, why does this wax 658 00:39:44,605 --> 00:39:54,445 Speaker 1: figure have muscle and bone? Oh ah. Anyway, so then 659 00:39:54,525 --> 00:39:56,645 Speaker 1: they eventually, you know, there was a moment of like, 660 00:39:56,685 --> 00:39:59,725 Speaker 1: oh shit, I think this is just like a mummified 661 00:39:59,805 --> 00:40:02,045 Speaker 1: corpse that had been like had a thin layer of 662 00:40:02,085 --> 00:40:05,805 Speaker 1: wax on it, and indeed that's what it was. Um, 663 00:40:05,845 --> 00:40:07,845 Speaker 1: what they did is they called nine one one and 664 00:40:08,085 --> 00:40:10,045 Speaker 1: as a funny joke, they were like, hey, we have 665 00:40:10,125 --> 00:40:16,605 Speaker 1: a really dehydrated person here. Uh So they said that, yeah, 666 00:40:15,565 --> 00:40:20,805 Speaker 1: I know the time and place for jokes people, I 667 00:40:20,845 --> 00:40:22,765 Speaker 1: mean the person. It was clear that this person had 668 00:40:22,765 --> 00:40:28,565 Speaker 1: been dead of a while. Soho a podcast. Guys, everyone's 669 00:40:28,605 --> 00:40:33,845 Speaker 1: so ghost except for us anyway. So so they came 670 00:40:34,045 --> 00:40:36,405 Speaker 1: and they're like, okay, yeah, this is a dead person. 671 00:40:36,525 --> 00:40:38,365 Speaker 1: So then what they did is they took the body 672 00:40:38,405 --> 00:40:40,845 Speaker 1: over to the medical examiner and they're like, hey, what 673 00:40:40,885 --> 00:40:43,205 Speaker 1: the what the heck is up with this? And the 674 00:40:43,405 --> 00:40:47,205 Speaker 1: medical examiner, using science and stuff, was able to determine 675 00:40:47,245 --> 00:40:50,525 Speaker 1: that this person had died via gunshot wound, also had 676 00:40:50,565 --> 00:40:54,765 Speaker 1: had tuberculosis, and you know, also had bunions on their feet, 677 00:40:54,765 --> 00:40:56,805 Speaker 1: so they didn't have like good feet, like these were 678 00:40:56,845 --> 00:41:01,205 Speaker 1: toes you probably didn't want to be sucking on. Also, okay, okay, 679 00:41:01,285 --> 00:41:03,725 Speaker 1: I mean also he didn't really have fingers anymore because 680 00:41:04,165 --> 00:41:06,085 Speaker 1: at some point it seemed like they had been probably 681 00:41:06,165 --> 00:41:10,085 Speaker 1: knocked off post mortem. And yeah, so he had like 682 00:41:10,125 --> 00:41:11,725 Speaker 1: a thin layer of paint on him and a thin 683 00:41:11,805 --> 00:41:15,325 Speaker 1: layer of wax. And they also determined that he probably 684 00:41:15,365 --> 00:41:18,085 Speaker 1: died maybe somewhere between like nineteen oh five and nineteen 685 00:41:18,085 --> 00:41:20,845 Speaker 1: twenty because they determined that he specifically shot with a 686 00:41:20,845 --> 00:41:23,085 Speaker 1: bullet that was like used during that time, which I'm like, oh, 687 00:41:23,125 --> 00:41:29,085 Speaker 1: that's cool, that's cool. That Yeah, so he he was chilling, Yeah, 688 00:41:29,125 --> 00:41:32,885 Speaker 1: he was just chilling. So oh. Another freaky detail is 689 00:41:32,925 --> 00:41:36,805 Speaker 1: that they found both a penny from nineteen twenty four 690 00:41:37,165 --> 00:41:39,925 Speaker 1: and also ticket stubs that had been stuffed into his 691 00:41:40,125 --> 00:41:45,365 Speaker 1: mouth from a side show called Lewis Sonny's Museum of Crime. 692 00:41:45,805 --> 00:41:49,045 Speaker 1: So that's so weird. Why would they do that? Because 693 00:41:49,245 --> 00:41:53,045 Speaker 1: I feel like I do that to random shelves, Like 694 00:41:53,085 --> 00:41:55,565 Speaker 1: if I have extra random stuff that I don't want 695 00:41:55,565 --> 00:41:56,925 Speaker 1: to throw it away, but I also don't know where 696 00:41:56,925 --> 00:41:58,005 Speaker 1: to put right now, I'll just put it like in 697 00:41:58,045 --> 00:42:00,285 Speaker 1: a shelf. But a man's mouth is not a shelf. 698 00:42:00,925 --> 00:42:03,085 Speaker 1: Maybe it was like a good luck thing. I mean, 699 00:42:03,125 --> 00:42:04,925 Speaker 1: a man's mouth is not a shelf. I mean it 700 00:42:04,965 --> 00:42:11,125 Speaker 1: could be a cupboard. Sometimes it's a shelf for dad ass, 701 00:42:11,245 --> 00:42:14,285 Speaker 1: depending on what's going on. But you know, maybe it's 702 00:42:14,325 --> 00:42:16,965 Speaker 1: a good luck thing of like you know, people do 703 00:42:17,085 --> 00:42:19,765 Speaker 1: weird things like you know, and like Florence, Italy, they 704 00:42:19,765 --> 00:42:21,485 Speaker 1: have this big sculpture of a pig and you like 705 00:42:21,565 --> 00:42:24,205 Speaker 1: rub the nose for good luck, or you throw the 706 00:42:24,205 --> 00:42:27,165 Speaker 1: coins in the fountain. Sometimes maybe putting your ticket stubs 707 00:42:27,165 --> 00:42:30,285 Speaker 1: in a dead man's mouth is good luck. Here stick 708 00:42:30,805 --> 00:42:34,085 Speaker 1: just feels so niche. I don't know, but yeah, maybe, 709 00:42:34,165 --> 00:42:36,605 Speaker 1: I mean this was like the Midwest, So are not 710 00:42:36,645 --> 00:42:38,965 Speaker 1: the Midwest. It's more of like the the Midwest. That's 711 00:42:39,005 --> 00:42:43,365 Speaker 1: below the midwest's like Kansas, Oklahoma, whatever that's called where 712 00:42:43,405 --> 00:42:45,965 Speaker 1: all the Square states are. I thought you said we 713 00:42:45,965 --> 00:42:48,925 Speaker 1: were in California. We were in California, but there's more. 714 00:42:49,085 --> 00:42:53,485 Speaker 1: He's been all over the place. Okay, my gosh, Okay, 715 00:42:53,005 --> 00:42:56,605 Speaker 1: we world traveler. So the thing is like this side 716 00:42:56,645 --> 00:42:59,085 Speaker 1: show that they found the tickets from that was in Oklahoma, 717 00:42:59,565 --> 00:43:01,965 Speaker 1: or that was in Kansas, wait, which one wasn't it's 718 00:43:02,005 --> 00:43:03,645 Speaker 1: one of those one of the Square states. They're all 719 00:43:03,645 --> 00:43:08,725 Speaker 1: the same, but they but they determined using all of 720 00:43:08,725 --> 00:43:11,485 Speaker 1: this evidence that this guy who was dead, he was 721 00:43:11,525 --> 00:43:16,365 Speaker 1: an outlaw named Elmer McCurdy. Okay, and Elmer mccurty had 722 00:43:16,405 --> 00:43:18,285 Speaker 1: been a dead man who had been on display for 723 00:43:18,365 --> 00:43:21,485 Speaker 1: decades at like various places. And what happened was they 724 00:43:21,485 --> 00:43:23,645 Speaker 1: thought that he was like he was well, he seemed 725 00:43:23,685 --> 00:43:27,005 Speaker 1: like he was a really shitty outlaw and he died 726 00:43:27,085 --> 00:43:30,045 Speaker 1: in nineteen eleven in Oklahoma because he tried to do 727 00:43:30,125 --> 00:43:32,405 Speaker 1: like a train hist to steal like hundreds of thousands 728 00:43:32,445 --> 00:43:36,685 Speaker 1: of dollars, but then he hoisted the wrong train, so 729 00:43:36,885 --> 00:43:39,645 Speaker 1: instead he only got it was like a passenger train instead, 730 00:43:39,645 --> 00:43:42,445 Speaker 1: so he only got forty six dollars, sort of like, 731 00:43:42,765 --> 00:43:47,925 Speaker 1: you know, three hundred thousand dollars oopsy expectation versus execution. 732 00:43:48,085 --> 00:43:50,885 Speaker 1: That's really sad. Yeah, And then well he was really 733 00:43:50,925 --> 00:43:53,205 Speaker 1: sad about it, so he went like drank and was 734 00:43:53,285 --> 00:43:56,045 Speaker 1: like laying in this hay loft thing and just like 735 00:43:56,085 --> 00:43:58,525 Speaker 1: being sad and emo. But you know, the police were 736 00:43:58,525 --> 00:44:00,165 Speaker 1: still going to try to get him, so they like 737 00:44:00,445 --> 00:44:02,525 Speaker 1: had a two thousand dollars worn out for him. So 738 00:44:02,565 --> 00:44:04,805 Speaker 1: then they found him in the hay loft and they 739 00:44:04,845 --> 00:44:07,645 Speaker 1: were like, hey, like calm down, you rob that train, 740 00:44:08,285 --> 00:44:10,325 Speaker 1: and he's like, man, I don't want to. So they 741 00:44:10,365 --> 00:44:12,125 Speaker 1: had a shootout for like an hour, and then he 742 00:44:12,165 --> 00:44:15,605 Speaker 1: got shot in the chest and he died. So then 743 00:44:15,605 --> 00:44:18,045 Speaker 1: they took him over to this like funeral home and 744 00:44:18,085 --> 00:44:21,485 Speaker 1: this guy like embalmed him and did all this work 745 00:44:21,525 --> 00:44:24,005 Speaker 1: to make his body look like slightly better. But then 746 00:44:24,045 --> 00:44:26,085 Speaker 1: he was mad because no one paid for his services. 747 00:44:26,165 --> 00:44:27,605 Speaker 1: So what he did was like, well, if no one's 748 00:44:27,645 --> 00:44:29,525 Speaker 1: gonna pay for this body or like claim this body 749 00:44:29,605 --> 00:44:32,085 Speaker 1: or like pay me, I'm just gonna you know, prop 750 00:44:32,205 --> 00:44:34,085 Speaker 1: him up and put him on display and you can 751 00:44:34,125 --> 00:44:37,765 Speaker 1: pay a nickel to see the outlaw dead body. Oh 752 00:44:37,805 --> 00:44:41,165 Speaker 1: my gosh. And it became a very popular date spot, okay, 753 00:44:41,285 --> 00:44:43,205 Speaker 1: and a lot of people want it was a bigger contraction, 754 00:44:43,605 --> 00:44:45,205 Speaker 1: and a lot of people approached him being like, hey, 755 00:44:45,245 --> 00:44:47,285 Speaker 1: can we have this body to put in our sideshow 756 00:44:47,365 --> 00:44:49,525 Speaker 1: or whatever. And he was like no, no, no, no no, no, 757 00:44:49,565 --> 00:44:52,685 Speaker 1: you can't. That's weird. I can only profit off this 758 00:44:52,725 --> 00:44:55,365 Speaker 1: body or his family can come and claim him. So 759 00:44:55,525 --> 00:44:59,365 Speaker 1: like five years later, these dudes approach him and are like, hey, 760 00:44:59,405 --> 00:45:03,285 Speaker 1: where this guy Elmer's brothers. We've come to claim the body. 761 00:45:03,565 --> 00:45:06,485 Speaker 1: And he's like, okay, here habit. But they weren't his brothers. 762 00:45:06,485 --> 00:45:11,685 Speaker 1: They were just these people who had They didn't, no, 763 00:45:11,765 --> 00:45:14,605 Speaker 1: they didn't. But they had a carnival in Kansas and 764 00:45:14,645 --> 00:45:16,645 Speaker 1: they wanted to put him on display because you know, 765 00:45:16,685 --> 00:45:19,445 Speaker 1: he was a hot commodity. So they got his body. 766 00:45:19,485 --> 00:45:21,605 Speaker 1: They're like, oh, yeah, we're taking him back to California, 767 00:45:21,645 --> 00:45:24,645 Speaker 1: but like, no, they're taking him to Kansas, And so 768 00:45:24,765 --> 00:45:28,205 Speaker 1: he was on display there for a little bit. His 769 00:45:28,245 --> 00:45:31,765 Speaker 1: body was on display as um the outlaw who would 770 00:45:31,805 --> 00:45:36,325 Speaker 1: never be captured alive. And then in nineteen twenty two, 771 00:45:36,965 --> 00:45:40,365 Speaker 1: McCurdy was bought by another dude or this whole like 772 00:45:40,605 --> 00:45:44,525 Speaker 1: these two the two brothers. Their whole operation was bought 773 00:45:44,525 --> 00:45:47,365 Speaker 1: by this other guy, and then he displayed McCurdy with 774 00:45:47,405 --> 00:45:50,925 Speaker 1: some other like wax replicas of other outlaws, which I 775 00:45:50,965 --> 00:45:53,005 Speaker 1: think at this point, I'm like, it's really unclear whether 776 00:45:53,085 --> 00:45:55,325 Speaker 1: or not they knew he was like a real dead 777 00:45:55,365 --> 00:46:00,405 Speaker 1: person versus just like a wax figure type thing. Anyway, 778 00:46:00,485 --> 00:46:03,565 Speaker 1: But then that guy, he the guy who owned that one, 779 00:46:03,765 --> 00:46:08,525 Speaker 1: he died, so that dude's brother lent out the body 780 00:46:08,565 --> 00:46:12,285 Speaker 1: to a filmmaker who was making a film, and they 781 00:46:12,405 --> 00:46:14,765 Speaker 1: used his body as like a display in the lobby 782 00:46:14,805 --> 00:46:19,645 Speaker 1: of this theater just to like promote the film. And 783 00:46:19,685 --> 00:46:22,605 Speaker 1: then they were like, Okay, we don't need this body anymore, 784 00:46:22,685 --> 00:46:24,965 Speaker 1: so they put the body in a Los Angeles warehouse, 785 00:46:25,485 --> 00:46:29,565 Speaker 1: and then another filmmaker used it for like a display 786 00:46:29,605 --> 00:46:32,285 Speaker 1: item and then also used it in a film. And 787 00:46:32,325 --> 00:46:35,685 Speaker 1: then that's like in the sixties. And then this guy 788 00:46:35,765 --> 00:46:38,885 Speaker 1: who owned the Hollywood Wax Museum, he bought the figure, 789 00:46:39,485 --> 00:46:42,325 Speaker 1: but he didn't like it on display because he said 790 00:46:42,365 --> 00:46:47,965 Speaker 1: it wasn't life like enough wowow, which is pretty funny. 791 00:46:48,165 --> 00:46:51,245 Speaker 1: And then it was finally sold to the amusement park 792 00:46:51,245 --> 00:46:54,645 Speaker 1: where he was found. So he was just like going 793 00:46:54,725 --> 00:46:57,765 Speaker 1: all over the place, you know, on display, and then 794 00:46:57,805 --> 00:47:01,165 Speaker 1: finally in nineteen seventy seven they put him down to 795 00:47:01,285 --> 00:47:06,205 Speaker 1: rest in a plot in Guthrie, Oklahoma. So that is 796 00:47:06,205 --> 00:47:10,605 Speaker 1: the long journey of Elmer McCurdy, who is more successful 797 00:47:10,845 --> 00:47:16,645 Speaker 1: as a dead man than an outlaw. Oops, that's crazy, yep. 798 00:47:17,165 --> 00:47:19,645 Speaker 1: So just now that after you die, you could you know, 799 00:47:19,685 --> 00:47:21,685 Speaker 1: it's kind of like a van Go situation, like, you know, 800 00:47:21,725 --> 00:47:24,725 Speaker 1: he wasn't successful during his life, but afterwards he's a 801 00:47:24,725 --> 00:47:28,005 Speaker 1: monumental artist. And Elmer McCurdy is the same thing as 802 00:47:28,285 --> 00:47:32,645 Speaker 1: van Go basically. So yeah, sometimes you know, maybe in 803 00:47:34,085 --> 00:47:36,805 Speaker 1: a wax museum in the future you just got is 804 00:47:36,805 --> 00:47:38,965 Speaker 1: that a wax figure or is it a man who's 805 00:47:39,005 --> 00:47:42,645 Speaker 1: been dead for forty years? You know, ask yourself that 806 00:47:42,885 --> 00:47:46,005 Speaker 1: every single time you go into a wax museum. Now, yeah, 807 00:47:46,045 --> 00:47:48,125 Speaker 1: every time you see a wax figure, is it a 808 00:47:48,125 --> 00:47:51,365 Speaker 1: corpse or is it is it Ed Sheeran or is 809 00:47:51,365 --> 00:47:55,365 Speaker 1: it Dead Edge? Yeah? And Ed Sheeron has is like 810 00:47:55,445 --> 00:47:58,405 Speaker 1: the lizard man right now, Like that's the Ed cheering 811 00:47:58,485 --> 00:48:00,765 Speaker 1: that is moving around. The Dead Edge is actually the 812 00:48:00,805 --> 00:48:04,725 Speaker 1: wax figure, yeah and cheering? Yeah, yep. Well, guys, this 813 00:48:04,845 --> 00:48:09,405 Speaker 1: has been another episode of cadaver Gals. Um your your 814 00:48:09,805 --> 00:48:14,165 Speaker 1: news source for people who have died, So I truly 815 00:48:14,165 --> 00:48:16,645 Speaker 1: hope we are not your news source. We're news. 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