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We wanted 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:58.040 to chat with somebody about the world of gambling here 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:00.840 this week in particular, there was some of the big 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:05.640 moves that have happened in the NFL and big weekend. Obviously, 0:01:05.640 --> 0:01:10.800 college basketball is massive, so we tracked down a big shot, 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:16.679 a gambling mogul from the Westgates super book, The Vice President. 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:19.759 That's a big title. Jake Cornegate joined us here from 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:23.640 Las Vegas, and Jay, thank you. Why don't we start 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:29.600 with Tyreek Hill. That is the massive neutron bomb story 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:32.119 in our little world here, So Tyreek Hill we all 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:36.640 know by now traded from Kansas City to Miami for 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:40.959 a buffel bag of draft fix. But we're talking about 0:01:41.000 --> 0:01:46.199 a wide receiver. So I ask you, Jay, does this 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:51.560 move the needle dramatically? It certainly did. It kind of 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:53.480 kind of thought guard a little bit, but you know, 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:56.360 once I reviewed it with with some of the other guys, 0:01:56.960 --> 0:02:02.480 it was understandable. Know, um, why we were going to 0:02:02.960 --> 0:02:07.000 adjust you know, the number uh that we did, because 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:10.160 they were sixty and thirty. We dropped it and this 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:13.679 is a receiver. Now, receiver changes teams and all of 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:16.639 a sudden they're down to forty and twenty the Dolphins. 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.480 So the Dolphins basically went from sixty to one down 0:02:19.480 --> 0:02:21.880 to forty to one off that one move. But there's 0:02:21.880 --> 0:02:24.040 a little bit more to it than that. There's there's 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:27.880 some other uh moves that really compounded uh you know 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:32.240 this uh adjustment that we made. Uh, there's been some 0:02:33.040 --> 0:02:36.639 before the trade, and over let's say the last three 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:40.880 or four weeks, the Dolphins have kind of become a 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:45.120 a sharp kind of guys uh sexy pick you know, 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.040 and then they've been getting some love and some of 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:51.680 the future markets, you know, around town. So once they 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:55.480 got Hill, you know we we we made an aggressive 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:59.360 move for a receiver changing teams. Yeah, and and and 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:01.600 whose word? I guess the question who's worth box? I 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:04.280 saw the last week we had Davante Adams who went 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:09.400 from Green Bay to the Raiders. Uh, Who's gonna make 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:12.600 more of an impact? Is it Tyreek with the Dolphins 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.919 or do you think as far as the gambling markets concerned, 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.040 is it Davante Addams of the Raiders. Well, I mean 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.080 you're talking about two of the best receivers and the 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:24.840 NFL changing teams. And you know, I always thought he'll 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:27.880 you know, had a huge impact on all the other 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.640 receivers you know there we were looking at it, whether 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.959 it's Robinson, Hartman or Kelsey. Um, you know they're they're 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:37.080 gonna have their hands full, you know with the Homes 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:40.920 and Company trying to move this offense along because he'll 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:44.560 opened up so many things with this speed. He was 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:48.760 always on the radar the defensive backs. He's always on 0:03:48.800 --> 0:03:53.280 the radar for the defensive coordinators out there. He has 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:55.400 a huge impact. So I think he has a bigger 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:59.240 impact on the overall scheme of the offense than maybe 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:02.440 Adams but I'm gonna take anything away from Adams. Adams 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:05.800 is fantastic. We also had a fantastic quarterback. So I 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:08.280 think it's gonna be very interesting to see, you know, 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:12.400 the relationship that the car and and Adams will have 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:14.800 moving forward. Now, one of the reasons I would have 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:18.040 you on Jay, you had some interesting comments recently. You're 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:21.120 talking about the Buccaneers with Tom Brady coming back and 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:25.000 uh you were were quoted and you said you think 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:28.360 there was some some big wages that were right before 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:33.320 with insider information. Now what is the latest on that, Jay? 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:36.440 Is anything come of that here? How confident are you 0:04:36.480 --> 0:04:40.280 that somebody knew something they weren't maybe maybe weren't supposed 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:43.599 to know, or or took advantage of that situation. I 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.560 just thought you might bring this up then, But it's 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.560 all good. Um. You know, first of all, you know 0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:51.800 a lot of people thought I was complaining or was 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.920 looking to avoid the wagers or cancel them, and that's 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.279 not true at all. I wasn't complaining. I was just 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.240 telling you what I saw and what we saw all 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:04.800 were the type of bets that are not categorized as 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:09.520 speculation or hunch bets when when someone comes to your 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:11.520 window and ask how much you're gonna take out a 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.560 certain number, and then you move it. They're gonna say 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:16.159 what are you moving it to? And how much are 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:19.040 you gonna take at that number? And then they want 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:20.880 to revet it again, what are you moving in to? 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:23.680 How much you're gonna take at that number? You know 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:28.400 that that's because that doesn't raise your flag a little bit. Um. 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.920 You know, you're you're probably not doing your job. I'm 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:36.040 not looking to cancel. The liability is very minimal and 0:05:36.040 --> 0:05:39.120 and our eyes something that we can really get rid 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.720 of before the season even starts. But the way they 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:46.440 came in in the circle of people that bet them 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:49.960 around the country, not just in Las Vegas, but in 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:53.400 many other jurisdiction. We talked to a few operators there 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:56.919 were there was definitely some leaks there that got to 0:05:57.040 --> 0:06:00.720 a certain you know, circle of people. It wasn't like 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:05.560 you know, a publication or whatever the newspaper is, the 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:10.560 Orlando Orlando Sentinel or something like that, you know, got 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:14.159 a leak at it. It it's uh leak out to 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:17.200 a certain group. And I thought that was a red flag. 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:20.599 I mean, we're moving on, um, you know, I can't 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:24.120 tell you everything, but uh, you know, they're still looking 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:28.760 into some things. And um, again no complaints. We're gonna 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:32.159 be fine with a liability. We're moving forward. And I 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.800 just told people what I saw, all right, So they 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:36.600 are looking into it though, So there are there are 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:39.159 people like an oversight group kind of looking into it. 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:41.520 Is that Is that an accurate way to talk about 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:45.200 what's going on with Brady? That the bets? Yeah, I 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.240 I uh, you know, we we have to do certain 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:51.120 things here on our end um. But you know, I'm 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:54.479 gonna probably keep it very big and as and as 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.240 I said that they are looking into it, I'll probably 0:06:57.320 --> 0:07:01.080 leave it at that, all right. And you guys now 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:04.640 operate You're in Vegas, but you operate in multiple states here, Jay, 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:08.320 and and you reference something that's interesting because because of 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.360 the way the gambling set up now, it's not fully 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:13.520 matured the gambling market, but it's in a lot of 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:17.800 places these days. How how do you guys go about 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:20.560 protecting yourself? I guess you kind of referenced a little 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:22.720 bit that you saw some odd things pop up there 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:25.600 across the country. But what's to stop somebody from going 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:29.280 to seven eight different states and putting down a chunk 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:32.640 of change on something like that or does it matter, 0:07:32.720 --> 0:07:34.760 doesn't matter. I mean you can go to different operators. 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:38.080 How does that all work. I'm fascinated by this. Yeah, 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:41.600 I mean it's it's uh, you know, the market continues 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:46.040 to expand. It it's obviously you know, comfort to control 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:49.080 and regulate. I think the regulators have done a terrific job. 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:52.120 I think the NFL does a fantastic job. I think 0:07:52.160 --> 0:07:56.360 the league's overall do a great job of you know, 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.840 educating the players and educating the staff everybody in their 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:03.200 organization and what the rules are. And if those players 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:07.120 or somebody else in the organization, uh, don't follow the rules, 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:10.880 there's just no way to you know, prevent that. I mean, 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:13.160 we have same rules for people that are in the 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:16.679 gaming industry. You know, many states, if not all states. 0:08:17.240 --> 0:08:24.000 You know, employees of betting operator can't wager at um 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:27.360 you know, their own operation. And that's been the regulation 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:30.560 here in Nevada for for ever ever since I've been 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:34.480 in the industry, that's over thirty years. So but if 0:08:34.520 --> 0:08:39.760 someone wants to ignore that rule and and and do that, 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:42.160 they can. But it's just as a matter of time 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:45.680 before they get caught, and like I said, the leagues 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:49.559 to a termendous job policing and educating their players and 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:53.199 staff that they can't do certain things. But if they 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:57.800 go out and do it, uh and ignore those uh parameters, 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:00.040 you know that's on them and they're going to have 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:04.440 to suffer the consequences. Yeah. No, And jaysonbody's been in 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:06.400 the gamming world for a long time. You saw that 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:08.560 the Calvin Really story. I was surprised that was only 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:12.640 a one day story. The Falcon receiver that was suspended 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:16.280 for betting and he used his own phone. J Uh 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:18.680 that that does not seem like the wisest move to me. 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:20.680 I'm not that bright myself, but I would think you 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:23.480 might not want to use your phone on that. But, uh, 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:26.400 do you think this is a regular thing in the 0:09:26.440 --> 0:09:28.120 end of I know you're you're part of it, but 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:31.360 these players with with the odds out every Week's been 0:09:31.400 --> 0:09:34.200 that way forever. But do you think I can't imagine 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:36.200 Calvin Really is the only one doing this. Do you 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:38.280 think do you think this is just the outlier or 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:41.360 do you think this is more normal? Oh? I think 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:44.920 that this this is gonna happen. Uh, you know, moving forward. 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:49.120 I just hope it's somewhat minimized, and you know, we 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:52.559 have to do our job, you know, as as operators. 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:55.280 You know, we you know a lot of people don't 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:58.480 think that we care about integrity as operators, but it's 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:02.000 right on top of the list. Uh, integrity is our product. 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:04.160 You know. We want to make sure all gains are 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:05.960 fair and true. You know, we don't want to be 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:10.480 taken taking bets on something that's predetermined, and so uh, 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:13.560 you know, as it expands, you know, yes, people have 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:17.040 that opportunity to make those kind of wagers. Now, what 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:20.880 really did I I was surprised the channels that he 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:24.400 used his own channels, but uh, you know, I I 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:27.559 think it would have been more alarming, Uh if he 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:31.520 bet against the falcons um. You know, but that's that's 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:35.000 a that's definitely a bigger flag than than just placing 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:38.200 bets you know on you know, on the faccon or 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:41.840 on other games. But they know the rules, they know 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:46.560 the guidelines and parameters, and they cross those, you know, 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.360 that's you know, those are the consequences that they're going 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:53.560 to have to face. A one year suspension is pretty hefty, 0:10:53.720 --> 0:10:57.800 and not to mention forfeiting, you know, a pretty large salary. 0:10:58.080 --> 0:11:00.319 All right. So as far as that looking ahead here, 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.600 and you mentioned we talked about Brady and that move 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.600 things with him coming back. You're a Colorado guy, so 0:11:05.960 --> 0:11:10.600 you also mentioned Russell Wilson ja and how dramatically have 0:11:10.600 --> 0:11:13.400 have things changed? Obviously the Broncos now back at the 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:16.719 adults table in the NFL with a quarterback. But how 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.640 how dramatic are we talking about the perspective from the 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:23.440 gambling side with Russell coming to Denver? Yeah, I mean 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:25.679 when we were taking bets, you know, in January and 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:29.360 February for next year, you know a lot of these teams, 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:34.040 including let's say that the team that we're looking to land, uh, 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:36.959 you know, a premier quarterback, and Denver certainly was one 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.560 of them. You know, you look at the box, you 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:43.720 look at the Titans, you look at the Steelers. Um. 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:47.840 So when when the you know, Packers resigned Rogers, you 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.360 know that that was pretty much what we thought was 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:52.720 going to happen. So there wasn't much of an adjustment. 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:58.240 Russell going to the Broncos was a big surprise. Uh, 0:11:58.280 --> 0:12:00.000 you know, we didn't think that the Broncos, We're gonna 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:04.160 give up that many picks and and you know a 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:07.120 couple of very solid players, but they're in the wind 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:11.360 now mode and that's understandable. Uh, they're trying to win 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:14.079 it now. And that was a dramatic change. I mean, 0:12:14.080 --> 0:12:17.880 the Broncos were fifteen and thirty, fifteen for the conference, 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:21.800 thirty for the Super Bowl prior to the Wilson announcement. 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:27.559 But that's the fifteen and thirty. There was already, um, 0:12:27.559 --> 0:12:31.680 you know, some thoughts built into those numbers, meaning that 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.920 they possibly could land somebody. We didn't know who it was. 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:38.280 We didn't know it was Gumbi Watson, Wilson or somebody else, 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:41.359 but they were shopping and they were looking for a quarterback. 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:45.679 So um, with that signing, you know, the Broncos went 0:12:45.800 --> 0:12:48.840 right down to ten and twenty. So it was a 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:51.480 pretty big move. But it probably would have been bigger 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.120 if we uh, if it would have been a team 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:57.600 not looking for a premier quarterback. But the Broncos were 0:12:57.640 --> 0:13:00.880 only fifteen and thirty as they were, sir and hunting 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:04.920 for that next quarterback. Yeah. And you look around the 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:09.040 NFL here and the balance of powers, it's all on 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:10.959 the a f C. I mean to me, I look 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:13.600 at the NFC. I see like three, maybe four teams 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:18.080 in the NFC that realistically, the outside of some lightning strike, 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:20.720 can can get to the Super Bowl and win it. 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:22.160 But in the a f C, you can make a 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:26.160 compelling argument for six teams maybe maybe even more than 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:29.400 that in the In the a f C, this thing 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:32.959 is really really shifted. And I am I seeing this right? 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:36.480 Is that it is my perspective correct. There's a lot 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:37.959 of teams in the a f C and not as 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:39.520 many in the NFC that seemed to be at the 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.560 very top levels. That an accurate portrayal of the gambling market. 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.520 Oh sure, I mean, look at all the premier quarterbacks. 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:48.720 They're all in the a f C. Outside of Brady, 0:13:49.040 --> 0:13:52.280 you know you uh, you know, Stafford and the defending 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:55.960 champions are right there as well. Um, but the forty 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:59.439 nine will be there, certainly, the packers in the NFC, 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:04.440 the favorites there. I would suspect that, um, there probably 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:07.080 will be a team that we're not even looking at 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:10.160 that will pop up and be contenders at the end 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:13.040 of the you know, the next season. But the a 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:16.160 f C is just loaded, especially when you talk about 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:19.520 the quarterbacks. Everybody's talking about the a f C West, 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:22.000 and and that still holds true, you know with the 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:26.640 with an announcement that Hill is gone. Um, you know, 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:30.440 the the Chiefs just got closer to the rest of 0:14:30.440 --> 0:14:33.200 the pack in the a f C West as everybody's 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.840 creeping up. I mean, Mahomes is going to be on 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:37.880 the highland out there and he's got a lot of 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:42.960 work to do because everybody else in that West division 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:47.760 is pretty loaded. Their rosters are very, very solid, and 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:50.240 it's gonna be it's gonna be one of those where, 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:53.440 you know, if the best team might be in the 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.680 a f C West, but because they're they're probably going 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.560 to beat up each other throughout the season. They might 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.760 not have of the best record in the a f C. Yeah, Well, 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:04.440 what do you do with a team like the Bengals 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:07.920 who were that out of nowhere team this past year 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:11.160 to get to the Super Bowl? And uh, they did 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:14.120 make some moves here they added to the offensive line. Uh, 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:17.760 a team like Cincinnati, did they go back uh and 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:21.000 did never never land? Or are they gonna gonna be 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:23.480 a prominent team again this upcoming? You what do you 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:26.600 think on that? Well, they're in between. You know, they're 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:30.440 not the favorites. They're they're you know, not an underdog, 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.920 but they're they're in the same category as the Denver Broncos. 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:36.320 You know, their ten to one for the conference, twenty 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:39.720 for for the super Bowl, and to put back to 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:43.680 back seasons together like they just had, it's gonna be 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:46.880 very difficult because everybody in their division is going to 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:48.880 be shooting for him. The Bangers will have a huge 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:53.920 target on their backs. And you've got quality rosters on 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.920 many teams in the a f C that could easily 0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:00.680 win win that conference. So they're not the every they're 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:04.160 they're not a huge underdog, but they're probably at the 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:07.480 bottom of that maybe the top of that second tier 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:11.760 and staying in that division. Jay the Cleveland Brown's upsetting 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:15.280 many people. They get Deshaun Watson from the Texans, But 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:18.040 did they really get Deshaun Watson because he's facing some 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:21.400 kind of punishment from the NFL. So how how do 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:24.040 you guys handle a team like the Browns where you 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.560 don't really know for sure how many games if you 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:28.960 know any who knows Deshaun could be suspended for a 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:30.360 long years. So what do you do with a guy 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:34.600 like Deshaun Watson and the Browns there, Yeah, they're they're 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:37.920 at nine and eighteen and and uh, I think that's 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.880 gonna be an interesting story to follow because the Browns 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:43.800 have a fantastic offense. We all know that they can 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:46.520 run the ball, so that's certainly gonna help out Watson. 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:51.160 You know, they have some weapons there that offensively and defensively. 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:54.320 They got a really strong roster. You know, where they 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:57.800 were lacking was at the quarterback position. But we're talking 0:16:57.800 --> 0:16:59.880 about a player that hasn't played in a while. We're 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:02.640 sure how good he's going to be. Is he going 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.760 to be able to up right back in and and 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:09.960 you know play to a level that you know where 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:12.160 he left off because he was playing at a very 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:15.040 high level, um, you know before all this came down. 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:20.600 So it's another contender in the a f C. And 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:24.480 the odds really reflect that as they're only nine to 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:26.920 one to win the a f C with all this 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:32.480 other competitions surrounding them. Who has been the hot team? Jay? 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.240 Who are who? People? The public? Who is there any 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:37.280 one team at this point we haven't even gotten the 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:40.160 draft yet, but is there is there one team that's 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:42.760 the hot sexy team the smoke show that the public 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:45.840 is jumping all over here. Well I can I'm just 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:49.119 looking at the ticket accounts right now then and some 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:52.359 of the ticket accounts, uh, people are in love with 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.000 a few teams here. It's very well balanced as far 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:58.000 as if you were to look at the top ticket 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:01.119 accounts and the for the Super Bowl and talking about 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:06.919 you're talking about teams like these, the Titans, Uh, the 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:10.440 um Bengals are right up there as well. You've got 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:14.000 the Bills, who are the favorites along with the Rams 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:18.760 um to actually win the Super Bowl. And then out 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:23.960 of the NFC. Uh, some of the top ticket account 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:29.520 leaders here are well, of course the Buccaneers. Now, uh, 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:33.320 the Buccaneers, you know they're they're they're always gonna be 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:36.120 a hot, hot flavor here with with you know who 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:41.879 coming back. But now you look at the usual suspects. 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:46.000 Then after that you look at the Packers. Of course, 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:50.560 the Cowboys and the forty Niners. Forty Niners are actually 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:53.520 right up there towards the top. They're they're kind of 0:18:55.080 --> 0:19:00.639 another I'm not gonna say a sharp guy type of play. Ah, 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.080 it's more of a recreational player. A lot of people 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:04.920 believe in the forty Niners, and I don't blame them. 0:19:04.960 --> 0:19:09.840 They they were playing great ball last you know, during 0:19:09.840 --> 0:19:11.879 the playoffs, they look like they were going to be 0:19:11.920 --> 0:19:15.560 the team. Um somehow, you know, the Rams won that game. 0:19:15.680 --> 0:19:20.000 But forty Niners are certainly a team that's uh championship 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:23.199 worthy and of course a bit of a wild card though, 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:25.480 because they're supposed to change quarterbacks so that they still 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:28.040 have Jimmy Garoppolo with Tree Lance. Who know who knows 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:29.840 whether he's gonna be great or not. But I didn't 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:32.880 want to move on from that. Jay college basketball. As 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:37.040 we are talking here, as we're talking, the the second 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.240 weekend has not begun. So let's look back at the 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:42.399 opening weekend here. I heard a bit of a sounds 0:19:42.440 --> 0:19:45.280 like a father there is that a good or a 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:48.040 bad sign? Here? How did everything go the first week? 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:51.159 It seems to me from a talk radio perspective, JA, 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:54.280 from where I'm at, this is a pretty good mix 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:56.880 for me, because there's still a lot of the traditional 0:19:57.400 --> 0:20:01.720 college basketball powers that made it into the second week, 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:06.040 with a mix of a few surprise upstart teams. But 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:09.480 for you, where are you at on the the n 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:13.119 c A tournament at this point. Well, you know, a 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:18.040 good mixture of you know, premier teams and underdogs is 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:21.960 always a great recipe for us. Um. You know, we 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:24.879 we don't want all underdogs, we don't want all favorites, 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:27.520 we don't want all uh you know, the top tier 0:20:27.560 --> 0:20:31.000 teams advancing. We we uh, we prefer a good mix. 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:34.120 And that's exactly what happened in the first weekend. And 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:37.359 they you know, with I mean I'm not talking about 0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:40.440 big underdogs like St. Peter's, but teams like either Michigan 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:44.040 or North Carolina, those teams that had some you know, 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:49.320 uh um, some purse seating that you know, made some noise. 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:53.880 And these teams are um, I'll tell you they are. Um, 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:58.240 they're they're making us look really good because of the 0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:01.480 results that the first weekend and was one of the 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:05.960 best martial madnesses we've ever had. And uh, you know, 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:09.000 we we did really well all four days out here 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:13.480 in Vegas. The venue was just packed. We we have 0:21:13.920 --> 0:21:16.119 you know, we have the world's largest race of sports 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:21.080 books here and we also have a theater that seats people. 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:24.760 Both venues were sold out for the first three days 0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:28.760 of the tournament, and that continues as we speak. We 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:32.320 we have some great crowds in house for the second 0:21:32.320 --> 0:21:37.320 weekend here and um no, it's it's been fantastic. It's 0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:40.080 a it's been a great tournament. Um. I think the 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:43.800 expansion of sports gaming throughout the country has really helped us. 0:21:43.840 --> 0:21:46.000 That a lot of people thought that was gonna hurt us. 0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:50.200 But I talked to so many people last weekend where 0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:52.760 they were from, and they a lot of them came 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:57.440 in from jurisdictions that just you know, recently approved sports 0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:01.080 gaming and they said, you know, once that happened and 0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:03.760 they got you know, uh, you know, involved in it, 0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:07.919 they knew that Vegas was going to be a box 0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:10.879 that they needed to check. And we had so many 0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:14.840 new customers come in and again, remember this was our 0:22:14.880 --> 0:22:18.520 first true marriage madness in three years. Uh, you know, 0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:20.760 we didn't have that one two years ago. Last year 0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:25.320 we were restricted to. This year was full blown and 0:22:25.800 --> 0:22:29.840 people were just elated to be out here, uh and 0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:32.720 enjoying the you know, the tournament once again. Yeah. I 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:34.600 gotta tell you, I was in Vegas a few weeks 0:22:34.640 --> 0:22:37.080 ago and I went to uh I think one of 0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:40.840 one of your establishments. It is insane. The quality of 0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:43.560 the video. It's like being at an NFL stadium now 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:45.879 with some of the stuff you guys have in these 0:22:45.920 --> 0:22:50.000 sports books. It's it's it's absolutely amazing, and you guys 0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:52.200 were charging. I was curious when I was walking through, 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:53.920 I was like, I wonder how this is gonna work 0:22:53.920 --> 0:22:55.960 for the for the tournament. So did people have to 0:22:56.000 --> 0:22:58.560