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Speaker 1: you from boring weekend sports chatter. And on the Friday Podcast,
Speaker 1: we are back to the regular routine here. We wanted
Speaker 1: to chat with somebody about the world of gambling here
Speaker 1: this week in particular, there was some of the big
Speaker 1: moves that have happened in the NFL and big weekend. Obviously,
Speaker 1: college basketball is massive, so we tracked down a big shot,
Speaker 1: a gambling mogul from the Westgates super book, The Vice President.
Speaker 1: That's a big title. Jake Cornegate joined us here from
Speaker 1: Las Vegas, and Jay, thank you. Why don't we start
Speaker 1: with Tyreek Hill. That is the massive neutron bomb story
Speaker 1: in our little world here, So Tyreek Hill we all
Speaker 1: know by now traded from Kansas City to Miami for
Speaker 1: a buffel bag of draft fix. But we're talking about
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. So I ask you, Jay, does this
Speaker 1: move the needle dramatically? It certainly did. It kind of
Speaker 1: kind of thought guard a little bit, but you know,
Speaker 1: once I reviewed it with with some of the other guys,
Speaker 1: it was understandable. Know, um, why we were going to
Speaker 1: adjust you know, the number uh that we did, because
Speaker 1: they were sixty and thirty. We dropped it and this
Speaker 1: is a receiver. Now, receiver changes teams and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden they're down to forty and twenty the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: So the Dolphins basically went from sixty to one down
Speaker 1: to forty to one off that one move. But there's
Speaker 1: a little bit more to it than that. There's there's
Speaker 1: some other uh moves that really compounded uh you know
Speaker 1: this uh adjustment that we made. Uh, there's been some
Speaker 1: before the trade, and over let's say the last three
Speaker 1: or four weeks, the Dolphins have kind of become a
Speaker 1: a sharp kind of guys uh sexy pick you know,
Speaker 1: and then they've been getting some love and some of
Speaker 1: the future markets, you know, around town. So once they
Speaker 1: got Hill, you know we we we made an aggressive
Speaker 1: move for a receiver changing teams. Yeah, and and and
Speaker 1: whose word? I guess the question who's worth box? I
Speaker 1: saw the last week we had Davante Adams who went
Speaker 1: from Green Bay to the Raiders. Uh, Who's gonna make
Speaker 1: more of an impact? Is it Tyreek with the Dolphins
Speaker 1: or do you think as far as the gambling markets concerned,
Speaker 1: is it Davante Addams of the Raiders. Well, I mean
Speaker 1: you're talking about two of the best receivers and the
Speaker 1: NFL changing teams. And you know, I always thought he'll
Speaker 1: you know, had a huge impact on all the other
Speaker 1: receivers you know there we were looking at it, whether
Speaker 1: it's Robinson, Hartman or Kelsey. Um, you know they're they're
Speaker 1: gonna have their hands full, you know with the Homes
Speaker 1: and Company trying to move this offense along because he'll
Speaker 1: opened up so many things with this speed. He was
Speaker 1: always on the radar the defensive backs. He's always on
Speaker 1: the radar for the defensive coordinators out there. He has
Speaker 1: a huge impact. So I think he has a bigger
Speaker 1: impact on the overall scheme of the offense than maybe
Speaker 1: Adams but I'm gonna take anything away from Adams. Adams
Speaker 1: is fantastic. We also had a fantastic quarterback. So I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be very interesting to see, you know,
Speaker 1: the relationship that the car and and Adams will have
Speaker 1: moving forward. Now, one of the reasons I would have
Speaker 1: you on Jay, you had some interesting comments recently. You're
Speaker 1: talking about the Buccaneers with Tom Brady coming back and
Speaker 1: uh you were were quoted and you said you think
Speaker 1: there was some some big wages that were right before
Speaker 1: with insider information. Now what is the latest on that, Jay?
Speaker 1: Is anything come of that here? How confident are you
Speaker 1: that somebody knew something they weren't maybe maybe weren't supposed
Speaker 1: to know, or or took advantage of that situation. I
Speaker 1: just thought you might bring this up then, But it's
Speaker 1: all good. Um. You know, first of all, you know
Speaker 1: a lot of people thought I was complaining or was
Speaker 1: looking to avoid the wagers or cancel them, and that's
Speaker 1: not true at all. I wasn't complaining. I was just
Speaker 1: telling you what I saw and what we saw all
Speaker 1: were the type of bets that are not categorized as
Speaker 1: speculation or hunch bets when when someone comes to your
Speaker 1: window and ask how much you're gonna take out a
Speaker 1: certain number, and then you move it. They're gonna say
Speaker 1: what are you moving it to? And how much are
Speaker 1: you gonna take at that number? And then they want
Speaker 1: to revet it again, what are you moving in to?
Speaker 1: How much you're gonna take at that number? You know
Speaker 1: that that's because that doesn't raise your flag a little bit. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, you're you're probably not doing your job. I'm
Speaker 1: not looking to cancel. The liability is very minimal and
Speaker 1: and our eyes something that we can really get rid
Speaker 1: of before the season even starts. But the way they
Speaker 1: came in in the circle of people that bet them
Speaker 1: around the country, not just in Las Vegas, but in
Speaker 1: many other jurisdiction. We talked to a few operators there
Speaker 1: were there was definitely some leaks there that got to
Speaker 1: a certain you know, circle of people. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: you know, a publication or whatever the newspaper is, the
Speaker 1: Orlando Orlando Sentinel or something like that, you know, got
Speaker 1: a leak at it. It it's uh leak out to
Speaker 1: a certain group. And I thought that was a red flag.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're moving on, um, you know, I can't
Speaker 1: tell you everything, but uh, you know, they're still looking
Speaker 1: into some things. And um, again no complaints. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be fine with a liability. We're moving forward. And I
Speaker 1: just told people what I saw, all right, So they
Speaker 1: are looking into it though, So there are there are
Speaker 1: people like an oversight group kind of looking into it.
Speaker 1: Is that Is that an accurate way to talk about
Speaker 1: what's going on with Brady? That the bets? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: I uh, you know, we we have to do certain
Speaker 1: things here on our end um. But you know, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna probably keep it very big and as and as
Speaker 1: I said that they are looking into it, I'll probably
Speaker 1: leave it at that, all right. And you guys now
Speaker 1: operate You're in Vegas, but you operate in multiple states here, Jay,
Speaker 1: and and you reference something that's interesting because because of
Speaker 1: the way the gambling set up now, it's not fully
Speaker 1: matured the gambling market, but it's in a lot of
Speaker 1: places these days. How how do you guys go about
Speaker 1: protecting yourself? I guess you kind of referenced a little
Speaker 1: bit that you saw some odd things pop up there
Speaker 1: across the country. But what's to stop somebody from going
Speaker 1: to seven eight different states and putting down a chunk
Speaker 1: of change on something like that or does it matter,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I mean you can go to different operators.
Speaker 1: How does that all work. I'm fascinated by this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's uh, you know, the market continues
Speaker 1: to expand. It it's obviously you know, comfort to control
Speaker 1: and regulate. I think the regulators have done a terrific job.
Speaker 1: I think the NFL does a fantastic job. I think
Speaker 1: the league's overall do a great job of you know,
Speaker 1: educating the players and educating the staff everybody in their
Speaker 1: organization and what the rules are. And if those players
Speaker 1: or somebody else in the organization, uh, don't follow the rules,
Speaker 1: there's just no way to you know, prevent that. I mean,
Speaker 1: we have same rules for people that are in the
Speaker 1: gaming industry. You know, many states, if not all states.
Speaker 1: You know, employees of betting operator can't wager at um
Speaker 1: you know, their own operation. And that's been the regulation
Speaker 1: here in Nevada for for ever ever since I've been
Speaker 1: in the industry, that's over thirty years. So but if
Speaker 1: someone wants to ignore that rule and and and do that,
Speaker 1: they can. But it's just as a matter of time
Speaker 1: before they get caught, and like I said, the leagues
Speaker 1: to a termendous job policing and educating their players and
Speaker 1: staff that they can't do certain things. But if they
Speaker 1: go out and do it, uh and ignore those uh parameters,
Speaker 1: you know that's on them and they're going to have
Speaker 1: to suffer the consequences. Yeah. No, And jaysonbody's been in
Speaker 1: the gamming world for a long time. You saw that
Speaker 1: the Calvin Really story. I was surprised that was only
Speaker 1: a one day story. The Falcon receiver that was suspended
Speaker 1: for betting and he used his own phone. J Uh
Speaker 1: that that does not seem like the wisest move to me.
Speaker 1: I'm not that bright myself, but I would think you
Speaker 1: might not want to use your phone on that. But, uh,
Speaker 1: do you think this is a regular thing in the
Speaker 1: end of I know you're you're part of it, but
Speaker 1: these players with with the odds out every Week's been
Speaker 1: that way forever. But do you think I can't imagine
Speaker 1: Calvin Really is the only one doing this. Do you
Speaker 1: think do you think this is just the outlier or
Speaker 1: do you think this is more normal? Oh? I think
Speaker 1: that this this is gonna happen. Uh, you know, moving forward.
Speaker 1: I just hope it's somewhat minimized, and you know, we
Speaker 1: have to do our job, you know, as as operators.
Speaker 1: You know, we you know a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: think that we care about integrity as operators, but it's
Speaker 1: right on top of the list. Uh, integrity is our product.
Speaker 1: You know. We want to make sure all gains are
Speaker 1: fair and true. You know, we don't want to be
Speaker 1: taken taking bets on something that's predetermined, and so uh,
Speaker 1: you know, as it expands, you know, yes, people have
Speaker 1: that opportunity to make those kind of wagers. Now, what
Speaker 1: really did I I was surprised the channels that he
Speaker 1: used his own channels, but uh, you know, I I
Speaker 1: think it would have been more alarming, Uh if he
Speaker 1: bet against the falcons um. You know, but that's that's
Speaker 1: a that's definitely a bigger flag than than just placing
Speaker 1: bets you know on you know, on the faccon or
Speaker 1: on other games. But they know the rules, they know
Speaker 1: the guidelines and parameters, and they cross those, you know,
Speaker 1: that's you know, those are the consequences that they're going
Speaker 1: to have to face. A one year suspension is pretty hefty,
Speaker 1: and not to mention forfeiting, you know, a pretty large salary.
Speaker 1: All right. So as far as that looking ahead here,
Speaker 1: and you mentioned we talked about Brady and that move
Speaker 1: things with him coming back. You're a Colorado guy, so
Speaker 1: you also mentioned Russell Wilson ja and how dramatically have
Speaker 1: have things changed? Obviously the Broncos now back at the
Speaker 1: adults table in the NFL with a quarterback. But how
Speaker 1: how dramatic are we talking about the perspective from the
Speaker 1: gambling side with Russell coming to Denver? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: when we were taking bets, you know, in January and
Speaker 1: February for next year, you know a lot of these teams,
Speaker 1: including let's say that the team that we're looking to land, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, a premier quarterback, and Denver certainly was one
Speaker 1: of them. You know, you look at the box, you
Speaker 1: look at the Titans, you look at the Steelers. Um.
Speaker 1: So when when the you know, Packers resigned Rogers, you
Speaker 1: know that that was pretty much what we thought was
Speaker 1: going to happen. So there wasn't much of an adjustment.
Speaker 1: Russell going to the Broncos was a big surprise. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we didn't think that the Broncos, We're gonna
Speaker 1: give up that many picks and and you know a
Speaker 1: couple of very solid players, but they're in the wind
Speaker 1: now mode and that's understandable. Uh, they're trying to win
Speaker 1: it now. And that was a dramatic change. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Broncos were fifteen and thirty, fifteen for the conference,
Speaker 1: thirty for the Super Bowl prior to the Wilson announcement.
Speaker 1: But that's the fifteen and thirty. There was already, um,
Speaker 1: you know, some thoughts built into those numbers, meaning that
Speaker 1: they possibly could land somebody. We didn't know who it was.
Speaker 1: We didn't know it was Gumbi Watson, Wilson or somebody else,
Speaker 1: but they were shopping and they were looking for a quarterback.
Speaker 1: So um, with that signing, you know, the Broncos went
Speaker 1: right down to ten and twenty. So it was a
Speaker 1: pretty big move. But it probably would have been bigger
Speaker 1: if we uh, if it would have been a team
Speaker 1: not looking for a premier quarterback. But the Broncos were
Speaker 1: only fifteen and thirty as they were, sir and hunting
Speaker 1: for that next quarterback. Yeah. And you look around the
Speaker 1: NFL here and the balance of powers, it's all on
Speaker 1: the a f C. I mean to me, I look
Speaker 1: at the NFC. I see like three, maybe four teams
Speaker 1: in the NFC that realistically, the outside of some lightning strike,
Speaker 1: can can get to the Super Bowl and win it.
Speaker 1: But in the a f C, you can make a
Speaker 1: compelling argument for six teams maybe maybe even more than
Speaker 1: that in the In the a f C, this thing
Speaker 1: is really really shifted. And I am I seeing this right?
Speaker 1: Is that it is my perspective correct. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of teams in the a f C and not as
Speaker 1: many in the NFC that seemed to be at the
Speaker 1: very top levels. That an accurate portrayal of the gambling market.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, I mean, look at all the premier quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: They're all in the a f C. Outside of Brady,
Speaker 1: you know you uh, you know, Stafford and the defending
Speaker 1: champions are right there as well. Um, but the forty
Speaker 1: nine will be there, certainly, the packers in the NFC,
Speaker 1: the favorites there. I would suspect that, um, there probably
Speaker 1: will be a team that we're not even looking at
Speaker 1: that will pop up and be contenders at the end
Speaker 1: of the you know, the next season. But the a
Speaker 1: f C is just loaded, especially when you talk about
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. Everybody's talking about the a f C West,
Speaker 1: and and that still holds true, you know with the
Speaker 1: with an announcement that Hill is gone. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: the the Chiefs just got closer to the rest of
Speaker 1: the pack in the a f C West as everybody's
Speaker 1: creeping up. I mean, Mahomes is going to be on
Speaker 1: the highland out there and he's got a lot of
Speaker 1: work to do because everybody else in that West division
Speaker 1: is pretty loaded. Their rosters are very, very solid, and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be it's gonna be one of those where,
Speaker 1: you know, if the best team might be in the
Speaker 1: a f C West, but because they're they're probably going
Speaker 1: to beat up each other throughout the season. They might
Speaker 1: not have of the best record in the a f C. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: what do you do with a team like the Bengals
Speaker 1: who were that out of nowhere team this past year
Speaker 1: to get to the Super Bowl? And uh, they did
Speaker 1: make some moves here they added to the offensive line. Uh,
Speaker 1: a team like Cincinnati, did they go back uh and
Speaker 1: did never never land? Or are they gonna gonna be
Speaker 1: a prominent team again this upcoming? You what do you
Speaker 1: think on that? Well, they're in between. You know, they're
Speaker 1: not the favorites. They're they're you know, not an underdog,
Speaker 1: but they're they're in the same category as the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 1: You know, their ten to one for the conference, twenty
Speaker 1: for for the super Bowl, and to put back to
Speaker 1: back seasons together like they just had, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: very difficult because everybody in their division is going to
Speaker 1: be shooting for him. The Bangers will have a huge
Speaker 1: target on their backs. And you've got quality rosters on
Speaker 1: many teams in the a f C that could easily
Speaker 1: win win that conference. So they're not the every they're
Speaker 1: they're not a huge underdog, but they're probably at the
Speaker 1: bottom of that maybe the top of that second tier
Speaker 1: and staying in that division. Jay the Cleveland Brown's upsetting
Speaker 1: many people. They get Deshaun Watson from the Texans, But
Speaker 1: did they really get Deshaun Watson because he's facing some
Speaker 1: kind of punishment from the NFL. So how how do
Speaker 1: you guys handle a team like the Browns where you
Speaker 1: don't really know for sure how many games if you
Speaker 1: know any who knows Deshaun could be suspended for a
Speaker 1: long years. So what do you do with a guy
Speaker 1: like Deshaun Watson and the Browns there, Yeah, they're they're
Speaker 1: at nine and eighteen and and uh, I think that's
Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting story to follow because the Browns
Speaker 1: have a fantastic offense. We all know that they can
Speaker 1: run the ball, so that's certainly gonna help out Watson.
Speaker 1: You know, they have some weapons there that offensively and defensively.
Speaker 1: They got a really strong roster. You know, where they
Speaker 1: were lacking was at the quarterback position. But we're talking
Speaker 1: about a player that hasn't played in a while. We're
Speaker 1: sure how good he's going to be. Is he going
Speaker 1: to be able to up right back in and and
Speaker 1: you know play to a level that you know where
Speaker 1: he left off because he was playing at a very
Speaker 1: high level, um, you know before all this came down.
Speaker 1: So it's another contender in the a f C. And
Speaker 1: the odds really reflect that as they're only nine to
Speaker 1: one to win the a f C with all this
Speaker 1: other competitions surrounding them. Who has been the hot team? Jay?
Speaker 1: Who are who? People? The public? Who is there any
Speaker 1: one team at this point we haven't even gotten the
Speaker 1: draft yet, but is there is there one team that's
Speaker 1: the hot sexy team the smoke show that the public
Speaker 1: is jumping all over here. Well I can I'm just
Speaker 1: looking at the ticket accounts right now then and some
Speaker 1: of the ticket accounts, uh, people are in love with
Speaker 1: a few teams here. It's very well balanced as far
Speaker 1: as if you were to look at the top ticket
Speaker 1: accounts and the for the Super Bowl and talking about
Speaker 1: you're talking about teams like these, the Titans, Uh, the
Speaker 1: um Bengals are right up there as well. You've got
Speaker 1: the Bills, who are the favorites along with the Rams
Speaker 1: um to actually win the Super Bowl. And then out
Speaker 1: of the NFC. Uh, some of the top ticket account
Speaker 1: leaders here are well, of course the Buccaneers. Now, uh,
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers, you know they're they're they're always gonna be
Speaker 1: a hot, hot flavor here with with you know who
Speaker 1: coming back. But now you look at the usual suspects.
Speaker 1: Then after that you look at the Packers. Of course,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and the forty Niners. Forty Niners are actually
Speaker 1: right up there towards the top. They're they're kind of
Speaker 1: another I'm not gonna say a sharp guy type of play. Ah,
Speaker 1: it's more of a recreational player. A lot of people
Speaker 1: believe in the forty Niners, and I don't blame them.
Speaker 1: They they were playing great ball last you know, during
Speaker 1: the playoffs, they look like they were going to be
Speaker 1: the team. Um somehow, you know, the Rams won that game.
Speaker 1: But forty Niners are certainly a team that's uh championship
Speaker 1: worthy and of course a bit of a wild card though,
Speaker 1: because they're supposed to change quarterbacks so that they still
Speaker 1: have Jimmy Garoppolo with Tree Lance. Who know who knows
Speaker 1: whether he's gonna be great or not. But I didn't
Speaker 1: want to move on from that. Jay college basketball. As
Speaker 1: we are talking here, as we're talking, the the second
Speaker 1: weekend has not begun. So let's look back at the
Speaker 1: opening weekend here. I heard a bit of a sounds
Speaker 1: like a father there is that a good or a
Speaker 1: bad sign? Here? How did everything go the first week?
Speaker 1: It seems to me from a talk radio perspective, JA,
Speaker 1: from where I'm at, this is a pretty good mix
Speaker 1: for me, because there's still a lot of the traditional
Speaker 1: college basketball powers that made it into the second week,
Speaker 1: with a mix of a few surprise upstart teams. But
Speaker 1: for you, where are you at on the the n
Speaker 1: c A tournament at this point. Well, you know, a
Speaker 1: good mixture of you know, premier teams and underdogs is
Speaker 1: always a great recipe for us. Um. You know, we
Speaker 1: we don't want all underdogs, we don't want all favorites,
Speaker 1: we don't want all uh you know, the top tier
Speaker 1: teams advancing. We we uh, we prefer a good mix.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened in the first weekend. And
Speaker 1: they you know, with I mean I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: big underdogs like St. Peter's, but teams like either Michigan
Speaker 1: or North Carolina, those teams that had some you know,
Speaker 1: uh um, some purse seating that you know, made some noise.
Speaker 1: And these teams are um, I'll tell you they are. Um,
Speaker 1: they're they're making us look really good because of the
Speaker 1: results that the first weekend and was one of the
Speaker 1: best martial madnesses we've ever had. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we we did really well all four days out here
Speaker 1: in Vegas. The venue was just packed. We we have
Speaker 1: you know, we have the world's largest race of sports
Speaker 1: books here and we also have a theater that seats people.
Speaker 1: Both venues were sold out for the first three days
Speaker 1: of the tournament, and that continues as we speak. We
Speaker 1: we have some great crowds in house for the second
Speaker 1: weekend here and um no, it's it's been fantastic. It's
Speaker 1: a it's been a great tournament. Um. I think the
Speaker 1: expansion of sports gaming throughout the country has really helped us.
Speaker 1: That a lot of people thought that was gonna hurt us.
Speaker 1: But I talked to so many people last weekend where
Speaker 1: they were from, and they a lot of them came
Speaker 1: in from jurisdictions that just you know, recently approved sports
Speaker 1: gaming and they said, you know, once that happened and
Speaker 1: they got you know, uh, you know, involved in it,
Speaker 1: they knew that Vegas was going to be a box
Speaker 1: that they needed to check. And we had so many
Speaker 1: new customers come in and again, remember this was our
Speaker 1: first true marriage madness in three years. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we didn't have that one two years ago. Last year
Speaker 1: we were restricted to. This year was full blown and
Speaker 1: people were just elated to be out here, uh and
Speaker 1: enjoying the you know, the tournament once again. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you, I was in Vegas a few weeks
Speaker 1: ago and I went to uh I think one of
Speaker 1: one of your establishments. It is insane. The quality of
Speaker 1: the video. It's like being at an NFL stadium now
Speaker 1: with some of the stuff you guys have in these
Speaker 1: sports books. It's it's it's absolutely amazing, and you guys
Speaker 1: were charging. I was curious when I was walking through,
Speaker 1: I was like, I wonder how this is gonna work
Speaker 1: for the for the tournament. So did people have to
Speaker 1: buy tickets? Is that how that went to watch? Or
Speaker 1: they reserve seats or because I would think that that
Speaker 1: was gonna be a madhouse the first couple of days
Speaker 1: for sure, So how did that work? Well, yeah, you
Speaker 1: have a good mixture. You have some first come, first serve,
Speaker 1: you have some you know, basic reserve seating. Then you
Speaker 1: also have v I p uh seating as well, that
Speaker 1: which usually includes uh, you know, premier real estate in
Speaker 1: the sports book with all your food and drinks included,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean pricing of these things range from
Speaker 1: forty dollars to and so it's uh and again they
Speaker 1: were all sold out, so um you know, we we
Speaker 1: always try to um accommodate all different levels and that's
Speaker 1: exactly what happened. That was it was just really great
Speaker 1: to see how many people were just having such a
Speaker 1: good time, and you know, remember Marshal Madness is mostly
Speaker 1: made up of males. In fact, it's probably nine five males,
Speaker 1: and a lot of it is our reunions, people that
Speaker 1: went to school together or co workers or just have
Speaker 1: some history together and then they meet up here and
Speaker 1: they always seem to come in groups of you know,
Speaker 1: two to six guys, and um, I can't remember ever
Speaker 1: seeing the level of enthusiasm that we saw here. It
Speaker 1: was people were just having a good time, you know,
Speaker 1: and we did really well, so you know, they were
Speaker 1: doing that great on the betting side of things. You know,
Speaker 1: they had their moments just like they always do, but
Speaker 1: you know that that didn't curb the enthusiasm at all. Uh,
Speaker 1: they had a blast and it was just a lot
Speaker 1: of fun, a lot of excitement, and uh, the atmosphere
Speaker 1: was just terrific here in the Super Bowl. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: I can imagine. Well, for three years in the making, right,
Speaker 1: people been waiting around with the COVID and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: So as far as a team like St. Peter's though,
Speaker 1: Jake kind of walk me through that they're they're off
Speaker 1: the grid, small school. Uh. Was anyone actually betting on St.
Speaker 1: Peter's against Kentucky or was it mostly on on Kentucky
Speaker 1: that first big upset of March Madness back last week. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll say it wasn't a heavily beat game compared to
Speaker 1: some of the others, because you know a lot of
Speaker 1: the public out there they don't really like to lay
Speaker 1: those big points and and uh, you know, on the
Speaker 1: flip side, they're not really you know, have a history
Speaker 1: of supporting in teams like St. Peter's, So it had,
Speaker 1: you know, a fair amount of action versus all the
Speaker 1: other games St Peter's. Um certainly, I'll tell you the St.
Speaker 1: Peter's open five thousand and one, all right to win
Speaker 1: it all and now they're down to five one to
Speaker 1: win it all. But that that game against Kentucky, which
Speaker 1: it just electrified the room. I mean, there were a
Speaker 1: lot of I think anybody that was not wearing blue
Speaker 1: and white in the room was cheering for St. Peter's. Uh,
Speaker 1: it was, it was. It was incredible. And I'll tell
Speaker 1: you the second game against Murray State, and no one
Speaker 1: believed in St. Peter's. Everybody was on Murray State. And
Speaker 1: I understand that Murray State was a you know, eight
Speaker 1: and a half point favorite, and St. Peter's pretty much
Speaker 1: controlled that whole game and came out with an easy
Speaker 1: win and going into you know this today, you know
Speaker 1: it's St. Peter's is um, you know, not really getting
Speaker 1: a lot of attention from the bettors Um, but a
Speaker 1: lot of people have wondered why they're still getting double
Speaker 1: digits and being in the business for a long time.
Speaker 1: We don't make knee jerk changes, you know. We we adjust, uh,
Speaker 1: little by little, and that's exactly what we did with
Speaker 1: their power ranking. If this game would have been played,
Speaker 1: you know, before the tournament even started, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Purdue probably would have been like a fifteen sixteen point favorite.
Speaker 1: So now it's down to twelve because of what St.
Speaker 1: Peter's did the first weekend got you And is there
Speaker 1: one team of the fields we head in again we're
Speaker 1: talking before the sweet sixteam, But is there one team
Speaker 1: that is getting the the action, the popular pick by
Speaker 1: popular people here of the field remaining in the tournament? No,
Speaker 1: not really. It's really spread out, and as it should
Speaker 1: be because there's just so much parody. We saw a
Speaker 1: number of these number one seeds either you know, one
Speaker 1: one got knocked out, but you look at it and
Speaker 1: it seems like all of them got tested. You know
Speaker 1: what maybe Kansas did in Kansas, Kansas. To me, it
Speaker 1: looks like they just got an easy road, you know,
Speaker 1: to to the final four. You know that Miami's there,
Speaker 1: but other than that, they're looking pretty good to get there.
Speaker 1: And that's why their their odds are a little lower
Speaker 1: than maybe some of the others, because the others have
Speaker 1: a tougher road to get there. Like Kansas, everything opened up,
Speaker 1: you know, as you know, their number two seed, number
Speaker 1: three seed in that region have already lost. So uh,
Speaker 1: they're they're looking pretty good. But when it when it
Speaker 1: comes down to it, it looks like it probably could
Speaker 1: be Gonzaga. You know, They're they're just so good. The
Speaker 1: power ranking on them is so hi that they're gonna
Speaker 1: be a favorite no matter who they play. Um, but
Speaker 1: watch out, you know, watch out for those Gags, but
Speaker 1: also watch out for those Jayhawks because they got an
Speaker 1: easy road. Interesting all right, now, speaking of wide open
Speaker 1: this is very rare. I want to go to the
Speaker 1: NBA j because you know, typically, I know, we're not
Speaker 1: quite at the time where people get all excited for
Speaker 1: the NBA, but the playoffs will be here before you
Speaker 1: know it next month. And typically the NBA, I could
Speaker 1: I could pick five teams JA and I would be right.
Speaker 1: I would say over the last twenty five years, I
Speaker 1: would be right. Twenty four out of the TWI I
Speaker 1: picked five teams, one of them would win the championship.
Speaker 1: I don't see it that way? Am I wrong in that?
Speaker 1: I look at the NBA and I see I know
Speaker 1: Celtics have played well recently as we're talking here, but
Speaker 1: that looks pretty wide open like that. I don't see
Speaker 1: the typical four teams that are invincible, four or five
Speaker 1: teams in the NBA or that that just nobody can beat.
Speaker 1: So what's going on in the NBA as far as
Speaker 1: the gambling world is concerned? You you know, the NBA
Speaker 1: is wide open, as you stated, especially in the East side,
Speaker 1: you know, the West side not so much. But anybody
Speaker 1: can come out of the East. There's like six teams
Speaker 1: that will have the chance of coming out of you know,
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference, but not as many teams on the
Speaker 1: Western side. But you're exactly right. It's not down with
Speaker 1: two teams. It's not down to four teams. There's there's
Speaker 1: probably eight teams that could win the championship this year,
Speaker 1: which you know, as a bookmaker, we're loving well. And
Speaker 1: what what do you do with a team like the Lakers? Now?
Speaker 1: I know, you know you're in Vegas, but you guys
Speaker 1: run uh you know, gambling shops and other states and stuff.
Speaker 1: But in Vegas. Every time I go to Vegas, I
Speaker 1: go to a sports book and I have to go drink.
Speaker 1: Basketball season. There's a million guys in there with Laker gearon.
Speaker 1: And are are people still betting on the Lakers? There's
Speaker 1: been a miserable season for the Lakers. Here are people
Speaker 1: still loading up on the Lakers despite the be as
Speaker 1: flawed roster that they appear to have this year, and
Speaker 1: then the way it's played out all season, that's exactly
Speaker 1: what's happening. They just can't get away from the Lakers.
Speaker 1: You know, the Lakers are on right now, which they
Speaker 1: probably should be like, but people continue to bet them.
Speaker 1: And right now, we have so much liability on the
Speaker 1: Lakers that they were to somehow pull this off that uh,
Speaker 1: I might be looking for a different job by the
Speaker 1: end of tune if they were to win it. But
Speaker 1: they it's not. Yeah, it's it's something that they just
Speaker 1: can't get away from They still believe somehow they're going
Speaker 1: to make a d eighty degree turn and make this
Speaker 1: thing happen. But we don't see it as bookmakers. But
Speaker 1: we've got to be careful because you know, we were,
Speaker 1: you know, we're taking bets on this at some hefty odds,
Speaker 1: and that liability does add up very quickly. But you're
Speaker 1: spot on. They love Lakers and they continue to do
Speaker 1: it despite the play that we see on the court there,
Speaker 1: I mean, and all of our eyes out here, there's
Speaker 1: no chance they're gonna win. Okay, I'll knock on wood,
Speaker 1: but you know, you know, I just you know, it's
Speaker 1: just they have so many issues, so many problems they
Speaker 1: you know, just to turn the switch on. I just
Speaker 1: don't see how they could do it. Yeah, I agree
Speaker 1: with you, But like I said, every time I've we've
Speaker 1: been in Vegas, it's like a million guys, you know,
Speaker 1: all wearing their Laker gear, convinced that the that they're
Speaker 1: gonna turn the switch. All right, Well we'll get out
Speaker 1: on this. Ja Baseball a bunch of moves has been
Speaker 1: very interesting the last couple of weeks, with all the
Speaker 1: free agent signings and trades, a bunch of transactions all
Speaker 1: packed in and the season getting going in a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks here, Uh, any of those, you know, Freddie
Speaker 1: Freeman to the Dodgers, Carlos Carea went to the Twins,
Speaker 1: a bunch of big trades, anything moving the needle there,
Speaker 1: any impactful things as far as baseball is concerned down
Speaker 1: the line, which is not until obviously October. But did
Speaker 1: anything really stand out to you guys in the gaming world. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, it's about the Dodgers around here, and and
Speaker 1: they they clearly, I mean, that lineup is ridiculous, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, at Freeman to the mix that's just crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, now, you know, losing Seeger, it just isn't
Speaker 1: a big deal, you know. Uh, it's all gonna be
Speaker 1: about their pitching. You know, if Bauer could uh you know,
Speaker 1: I think if he's able to clear it and somehow
Speaker 1: get back to the Dodgers at some point, that is
Speaker 1: like adding another ace to to their their staff. I'm
Speaker 1: sure the Dodgers are not done. They'll probably you know,
Speaker 1: add another picture or two down the stretch. So they're looking,
Speaker 1: you know, like the team a bit. We we expect
Speaker 1: them to win more than a hundred games this year.
Speaker 1: I mean looking out West, you look at the two
Speaker 1: tease injury again, that's the problem. Well you got to
Speaker 1: Carves and Snell look a little passive prime and that's
Speaker 1: gonna be a huge hurdle for them. Uh. But I
Speaker 1: don't know. Nationally, you get the Brewers, you got the Braise,
Speaker 1: you know, the Braids get a Kuna back back in May. Um,
Speaker 1: I think, you know, obviously that's gonna hurt them losing Freeman,
Speaker 1: but also it's not that bad so Brewers praise Mets.
Speaker 1: Out of the National Aid, those are going to be
Speaker 1: the big contenders, I think. Um. I mean obviously outside
Speaker 1: of the Dodgers and then the A l you know,
Speaker 1: Houston looks solid again Prea. I understand that's gonna hurt
Speaker 1: a little bit, but we'll we'll see what Berlander has left.
Speaker 1: White Sox looked took a big step last year. I
Speaker 1: think that they're gonna be there at the end, and
Speaker 1: then the Rays or the Raise. Blue Jay's lineup looks
Speaker 1: really strong, you know, behind them, you can look at
Speaker 1: the Red Sox and the Yankees, but it's pretty much
Speaker 1: the usual suspects what we've seen in recent years. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, heading into the baseball season. I got you
Speaker 1: and uh, and you have a podcast right now. You
Speaker 1: run the book there, but you also have a case
Speaker 1: promote that. How can people hear you? How can they
Speaker 1: find your podcast? Yeah, you can follow us at superbook
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Speaker 1: our our app is available and four states now. We're
Speaker 1: about ready to add Tennessee to the mix in a
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Speaker 1: do that. That's under super Book Sports and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: follow us and you can get all the details of
Speaker 1: whatever we're gonna be. Well, Jay, thanks for the info.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Have a wonderful weekend and that we'll
Speaker 1: talk to you down inline. Thanks Jake, Thanks, I appreciate it.