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Speaker 1: Hell aias Hello, Welcome in side our three The Jason

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Speaker 1: Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Were Game

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Speaker 1: six of the NBA Finals goes to the Pacers one

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Speaker 1: O eight to ninety one, setting up a winner take

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Speaker 1: all Game seven.

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Speaker 3: First game seven almost ten years.

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Speaker 1: Go back to that Cleveland Golden States Series, the Big

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Speaker 1: Block to lebron Chase down block. Last time we had

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Speaker 1: a Game seven. I got a cool card to that.

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Speaker 1: You want to buy it? How much? Six hundred psa ten?

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Speaker 1: How about I'll give you ten there, I've got like

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Speaker 1: three of the only like seven or eight that give back.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you ten bucks right now now, but right

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Speaker 1: now now, I'll get ten bucks right now now. You

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Speaker 1: sounded like me ten bucks cash, no checks right now

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Speaker 1: I'll give you cause you're right.

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Speaker 3: You have it right now. I try no.

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Speaker 1: Joining us now on the Hotline to break down what

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Speaker 1: we saw, what we will see, what are we going

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Speaker 1: to see from the new look, new owned Lakers. Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports one NBA insider extraordinaire. He's on Twitter at Rick Buker.

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Speaker 1: Check out the On the Ball podcast, in which he

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Speaker 1: is breaking down all thirty seven of the knicks possibilities

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Speaker 1: to be their new head coach.

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Speaker 3: I thought he was going to count the turnovers tonight.

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Speaker 3: It is Rick Buker. Rick, what's happening?

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Speaker 4: Man? I have mixed ings, gentlemen?

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Speaker 3: Okay, why are you mixed?

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Speaker 4: For? So? Game seven? What's better than a game seven,

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Speaker 4: particularly in the finals with a title on the line.

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Speaker 4: There's nothing better than that, except except maybe playing in

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Speaker 4: a celebrity golf tournament in Houston, which is what I

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Speaker 4: was supposed to be doing Monday if this series got

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Speaker 4: over tonight.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, So what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 4: Well, I gotta I gotta go to work. I won't

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Speaker 4: I won't play. I won't be playing golf. I'll be

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Speaker 4: I'll be in the LA studios doing my job first

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Speaker 4: thing in the morning. On Monday. Uh, talking about wherever

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Speaker 4: this goes in a game seven and at this point

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Speaker 4: with this series, who knows. I'm look sick with with Okay,

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Speaker 4: you's gonna find a way to get it done at home.

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Speaker 4: But they they, they without question had the close out

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Speaker 4: jitters tonight in Indiana. As you know, I don't want

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Speaker 4: to take anything away from the Pacers, but this really

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Speaker 4: was Oklahoma City not playing their game whatsoever, which opened

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Speaker 4: the door for the Pacers to play theirs in a

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Speaker 4: way that they haven't been able to, uh the previous

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Speaker 4: two game.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing is, Rick is I had it

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Speaker 1: set after game two. I said, look, neither team is

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Speaker 1: going to impart their will on the other. They'll split

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Speaker 1: the next two games and it's going to go home,

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Speaker 1: home home. And there you went, And what happened? They

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Speaker 1: split the next two games home home. Yeah, I'm going

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Speaker 1: Pacers in game seven.

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Speaker 4: You you are what I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: I'm going thundering games.

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Speaker 1: Win tonight, thundering game home home home five, six and seven,

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Speaker 1: thundering thundering game seven.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Okay, that's all of that makes makes sense. I'm

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Speaker 4: glad that I you know, and and the rest of

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Speaker 4: the world did not hear that, because it would have

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Speaker 4: taken all the suspense, Yeah, out of the previous the

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Speaker 4: previous two games. We all would have been well, Jason,

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Speaker 4: Chason knows what's going on, So what's the point of

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Speaker 4: even watching. We'll just wait until Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, I heard him. I will get off everybody.

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Speaker 1: Everybody could have just played solitaire instead. It would have

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Speaker 4: We don't even really have to watch Sunday, do we No, you.

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Speaker 1: Don't know, you know, you know how it's going to

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Speaker 1: just play solitaire, the entire regular solitaire, spider, solitaire.

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Speaker 3: Ah, you do whatever you want. It's gonna be. I've

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Speaker 4: Back, Steve. And here's the thing. Here's the thing, Steven,

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Speaker 3: That that is a fair point. All right.

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Speaker 1: When did you think in the second quarter that they

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Speaker 4: I don't I don't think it was. I really don't

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Speaker 4: I felt like if they could have gotten this down

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Speaker 4: And they are at their best when they when they

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Speaker 4: bit easier to do that when you're up by fifteen

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Speaker 4: And so we'll see. You know, look, there was what startled.

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Speaker 4: It was just so startling is after watching Andrew Nemhart

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Speaker 4: the idea that they would suddenly wake up and be

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Speaker 4: Jason's crystal ball ability is is that you have two

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Speaker 4: I would expect that Oklahoma City is because because the

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Speaker 4: with their crowd sharing them Lawn. I would think that

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Speaker 4: of sync. SGA was forcing the Ball. I just think

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Speaker 4: they told me they showed me so much poison maturity

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Speaker 4: up to this point. Uh. This, this, this performance tonight

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Speaker 1: FS one's Rick Bucher, our guest Jason Smith, right, Mike Harmon,

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Speaker 1: live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Now you mentioned

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Speaker 1: Tyre's Halliburton. Now its beacause of being you know, Crystal

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Speaker 1: Ball I said this this week.

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Speaker 3: I feel like.

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Speaker 1: We were we were fed the injury overblown because somehow

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Speaker 1: the Pacers wanted to protect Halliburton from the awful game

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Speaker 1: that he had in Game five, and from that being

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Speaker 1: the story for the next three days. You know, we

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Speaker 1: know Haliburton listens to what is said about him. We

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Speaker 1: know that he does the chip on his shoulder thing,

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Speaker 1: and it's one of the worst NBA Finals games a

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Speaker 1: get oh yeah, yeah, Mri coming, oh yeah. If it

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Speaker 1: out for two weeks. He played thirty four minutes in

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Speaker 1: Game five, second most on the team. He played tonight,

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Speaker 1: he looked absolutely fine. I feel like that was something

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Speaker 1: that was thrown out there just so Halliburton could escape

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Speaker 1: game six with a more confident frame of mind.

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Speaker 4: I really think that I and it's a fair and

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Speaker 4: reasonable and rational thought. Somebody write that down. How many

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Speaker 4: times have I said that, what's the date? Time and date?

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Speaker 1: Time and date nine to ten Pacific just after midnight

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Speaker 4: Let's put that one in the books. No, I'm I'm,

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Speaker 4: I'm with you for for all those for all those reasons,

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Speaker 4: and I I just that's the That's the difficult thing

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Speaker 4: with Tyree Halliburton is that we've seen him play as

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Speaker 4: the way that he did in game five. Now you know,

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Speaker 4: not that it's quite that bad, but close close in

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Speaker 4: terms of just the lack of past or the amount

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Speaker 4: one thing is with Halliburton's game, I don't think unlike

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Speaker 4: a Jalen Brunson, for example, I don't think he plays

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Speaker 4: just doesn't have the skills. But I also think that

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Speaker 4: that Halliburton could settle for shooting threes early on, and

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Speaker 4: You know, while while Haliburton, I mean Haliburton had an

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Speaker 4: okay game and fourteen points, five assists, I mean, then

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Speaker 4: em Hart was was really the difference maker in with

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Speaker 4: Tyresee combined for eleven points, nine assists, and seven turnovers,

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Speaker 4: this and I think that that now I just need

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Speaker 4: Can they make that they can they travel with that

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Speaker 4: and we certainly didn't see that in Oklahoma City the

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just don't like anytime Nemhard gets some run because

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Speaker 1: Jason bristols, because he's still thinking back to last year, Rick,

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Speaker 1: So he's having flashbacks.

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Speaker 3: As we sit here. All right, So let's get through the.

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Speaker 1: Other big story of the week, the Los Angeles Lakers

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Speaker 1: value of ten billion dollars, the sale, and now Walter

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Speaker 1: and his management company come in. Jeanie Bussel stay governor

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Speaker 1: love to have been able to sit in on that

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Speaker 1: I think I would be surprised Rick if this was

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Speaker 1: He's on Twitter at Rick Buker. That is at Rick Buker.

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Speaker 3: Rick?

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Speaker 4: Well, I did a show with Paul Pierson just so

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Speaker 3: You get said Smith in your stand pretends to swing

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Speaker 4: I got how much use I have? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It was he had the football's deflated. There's just not

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. Jordan came around before that era, before it

438
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: was and all the stuff though, all the exploits we

439
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 1: heard about him over the course of his career. There

440
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,720
Speaker 1: was no video everywhere, there are no camera phones everywhere.

441
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: But that's gonna happen. It's not Caitlin Clark unique. This

442
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 1: is what's happened to lebra On James, this is what's

443
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: happened to Patrick Mahomes. This is what's happening to everybody,

444
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: every star. There's people are going to find a way.

445
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 1: There's gonna be loud social media, loud player reaction to

446
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: I don't like this person for whatever reason, whether it

447
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: is in line or just completely outlandish. But this stuff

448
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 1: with Caitlin Clark, it's just gonna continue. And she's got

449
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: a shoulder on with it because it's just gonna be

450
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,719
Speaker 1: a slog well, but it's good for talking points, right

451
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: when you're in our business the what do you do

452
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: the opposite? A lot of times I was like, all right,

453
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,199
Speaker 1: that's a pretty good point. But you know what, you

454
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,719
Speaker 1: can make the case over here, right, it's point counterpoint,

455
00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: embrace debate and television and radio which is run a book.

456
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: But in any walk of life, no matter what you

457
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: do in your personal lives, in your work life, you

458
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: want a little bit of credit for the job you're

459
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 1: getting done, whatever that means. And I understand for a

460
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 1: lot of the WNBA players there's a bit of saltiness

461
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: if you're putting up numbers in your team's winning games.

462
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,919
Speaker 1: Caitlin Clark comes in, you want a little bit of

463
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Speaker 1: that shine now. So you and I have been doing

464
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: this show a decade plus at this point here on

465
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio and part of watching the WNBA, because

466
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: let's call it what it is, summertime. We're always looking

467
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: for live sports, and we've tracked the league and it

468
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: certainly has gone to a different level, but we've always

469
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 1: acknowledged it. We've talked to a lot of these players

470
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: as they've finished up their collegiate exploits and the Women's

471
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: Tournament through the years, but the officiating has always been spotty, right,

472
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: how physical do you let it get? Star treatment, star players,

473
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: all of those things, and Caitlin Clark is just the

474
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: latest in that. Because if you go and watch a

475
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,680
Speaker 1: game that doesn't have anything to do with it, I'm

476
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: guaranteeing you you're complaining about the reference just as much

477
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: in those games as you are in the Caitlan Clark

478
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: officiated games. I guarantee to you based on the way

479
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: they adjudicate things game to game, and again it's star treatment.

480
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Speaker 3: How far do you go? How much do you impact

481
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 3: the flow of the game. We're watching this one.

482
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: There was a review on a call right where off

483
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: a screen the player gets bounced into Clark, she gets

484
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 1: called for a fule.

485
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 3: She's just standing there as the girl gets bumped into

486
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 3: hers Like, how's a what that's how it goes.

487
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: But they went to a five minute review on it. Well, yeah,

488
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: we were watching. It was a ten minute block that

489
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: twenty two seconds. You ain't salty, man, You said, you

490
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 1: don't even watching this game for like six minutes they

491
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: played twenty two seconds.

492
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 3: It was a thurder.

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Speaker 1: It's salty. No, but there's flow. Basketball is a game

494
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: of flow. It's like that review is nothing. The girl

495
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: got bounced by by a Leah Boston. If anybody's getting

496
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 1: a fault on her, Clark's just like I got hit

497
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: in a fly by kind of fake. But it's those

498
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: kind of moments that you make you pause and go oh.

499
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 1: They're struggling to just go through the basics with this

500
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 1: at times. But from the player perspective, I understand their frustration.

501
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 1: That's not gonna go away. And it doesn't matter if

502
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: the players that are on her ik Now, I mean,

503
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 1: look at you know we always talk about Kelsey plumban

504
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: take some time to heal or whatever else. Big video

505
00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: making the rounds because now the appreciation and celebration of

506
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: these players and these teams has taken on the NBA,

507
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. Well, people are going to hotels to

508
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: try to get autographs. That's freaking people out. Kelsey Plum

509
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: calling people out. I like, no, this goes with that

510
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: next level of celebrity is that people are recognizing there's

511
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: markets to be made. There's dollars a man or collections

512
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: to build. You decide where that line is with all

513
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,679
Speaker 1: of it. But it's that next iteration of stardom, of

514
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: like you're not just saying look at look at Cunningham.

515
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: She goes from being what is it, half a billion

516
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: new followers on TikTok in the last seventy two hours.

517
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: All you do is coming a hard foul at the end,

518
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: standing up for Katelyn. I love Caitlyn, and they get

519
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 1: the oh here was her fit pregame Yes, married to

520
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: two of those half a half a million new follows. No,

521
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's just she just has to just

522
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: have to understand this is how it's going to go

523
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: for Kaitlyn Clark, which is really rough because I gotta say,

524
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 1: there's I don't know anybody that could carry themselves as

525
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: well as she has throughout all of this, uh the

526
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,479
Speaker 1: last last year and a half, Like every time she

527
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: opens her mouth and says something she tried, I feel

528
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 1: like it's it's very measured because she wants to make

529
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: sure I want to say what I want to say.

530
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:13,439
Speaker 3: I don't want to.

531
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to have it spun around where someone

532
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: says something else. And she's realizing that people are gonna

533
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: do that anyway. Well, she tries to keep it to basketball,

534
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: and that's the incredib for like, and she's chippy and

535
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: she incites a lot of stuff on the court. Anybody

536
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 1: that's watched five minutes of a Caitlin Clark game going

537
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: back to her time at Iowa has seen this. She's

538
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: not afraid to get into it. And then she knows

539
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: she's got her enforcers to take her back. Now, Like

540
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: it's like all great goal scorers like you were in hockey, right,

541
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 1: I mean, like you tell me you could mix it up,

542
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: but someone else had to come over and be in

543
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 1: goon it up for you. Caitlyn Clark has that. But

544
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: once it gets to the interviews, even after the Freakis

545
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: the other night, it was, you know, I don't want

546
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: to talk about let's talk about basketball. Ye hard falls

547
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: we play on now, I mean right now to the

548
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 1: point where they're they're trying to say, all right, let's

549
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: get past this, right, and I've talked about getting past it,

550
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: but you realize that there it's it's always going to happen.

551
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 3: Right.

552
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: Here's the Connecticut Sun that that she gets it. It's

553
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 1: not just her And when they play the sky in

554
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: Angel reees it's now when they play the Sun and yeah,

555
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: and here's other players who are gonna get involved with

556
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: there's it's it's just always going to be there. This

557
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: is this is gonna be the consistent story. It's gonna

558
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: be Why doesn't Caitlin Clark get appreciate. Yeah, we're we're.

559
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 3: Doing it now.

560
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: We did it a year ago, We're gonna be doing

561
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: it a year from now, it'll be three years from now,

562
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: it'll be five years from now. Did you buy your

563
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: meebound shirt? I did not buy And just really quick,

564
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: me bound. Okay, I get that. People are saying me

565
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: bound for Angel Reese and okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna

566
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: patent that and try to make money on it because

567
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: you know, she's living beyond her means. Despite the fact

568
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: she's got a McDonald's endorsement deal and she owns a

569
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: soccer team. She's living beyond means. Uh, me bound that.

570
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: The connotation is that you rebound your own misshots too often,

571
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: so when you say me bound, that's but this is

572
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: also owning your own miss You're owning that phrase saying

573
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: all right, if you're gonna get you're gonna pay me

574
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: for it. I can't fault a good strategy. She's gonna

575
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: of those shirts, probably as many as the overrate that

576
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: or this.

577
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 3: I don't know about that.

578
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, let's talk to somebody who hasn't

579
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: overrate that T shirt or at least has one. Mom ways,

580
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: because it's being delivered to her parents' house, because you

581
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: know they'll be there to sign for it.

582
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: It's Monty Belaga. You know I'm stealing that shirt. She's

583
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 3: just gonna ask me what that means.

584
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 6: Get get to this, and then I have to explain it.

585
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: She's gonna open the mail when you get it, want.

586
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 6: To she if she opens something, that's always on accident,

587
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 6: and then she'll send.

588
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 5: Me a picture of it, be like, sorry, I thought

589
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 5: it was my box and it's like a pair of.

590
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 6: Jordan's and she's like, sorry, I thought it was.

591
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: Mine wearing Jordan's on the court doing a rock.

592
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 5: It's definitely not. But no, she won't open it. I

593
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 5: mean when she does, it'st accident. She sends me a picture.

594
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 5: Sorry I thought it was my bos. I'm like, all right, mommy, whatever, whatever,

595
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 5: no problem. But yes, I it said it is going

596
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 5: to be here tomorrow.

597
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 3: I think that I have to check again.

598
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: I think you're getting it before seven? How many this

599
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: bots never arrived? Did you have from mom?

600
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 6: And no, they all arrived, just sometimes they're open.

601
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 3: That's all because she gets excited, you know.

602
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 4: What I'm saying.

603
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, your mom's saying, Hey, I'm in a porch, pirate

604
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: this T shirt if I like it, if I like it,

605
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: so see.

606
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 3: It never came. I'm so sorry.

607
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 6: Almost and then I see a picture of her with

608
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 6: my dad drinking and says like, overrate that hot?

609
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 3: You know we're having like some I got. I don't

610
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 3: know where that is.

611
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's exactly exactly Kaitlin Clark did struggle from the

612
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 6: field today. You guys are just talking about her. She

613
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 6: was over for seven from the three, three or fourteen

614
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 6: from the field in general, had eleven points, seven rebounds

615
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 6: and that assist, but the Fever lost to the Valkyries

616
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 6: eighty eight to seventy seven. Now in the NBA, we're

617
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 6: getting a game of seven as it was all Indiana

618
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 6: second quarter and on they defeated Okay see one O

619
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Speaker 6: eight to ninety one was the final score. Pascal Siakam

620
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 6: a double double, Tyrese Halliburn fourteen points, five assists in

621
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 6: only twenty three minutes of play. TJ McConnell off the

622
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 6: bench twelve points, nine rebound, six assists. For OKC, they

623
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 6: had twenty one turnovers compared to Indiana, who only had ten.

624
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 6: Shai Gildos Alexander twenty one points, Jalen Williams sixteen points.

625
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 6: Game seven is on Sunday at eight Eastern, and you

626
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 6: did mention it's the first game seven since twenty sixteen

627
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 6: between the Cavs and the Warriors. Two baseball games still

628
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 6: going on. The Astros have tied the game against the

629
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 6: A's it's four to four top of the ninth inning.

630
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 6: While the Padres have added some more runs, they're still

631
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 6: shutting out the Dodgers five zero bottom of the eighth

632
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 6: inning in LA. Earlier today in baseball, the Orioles outscored

633
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 6: the Rays four to one, the Braves outscored the Mets

634
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 6: seven to one. New York has lost six in a row,

635
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 6: and the Phillies edged the Marlins two to one. Kyle

636
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 6: Schwarber with his twenty third home run of the season,

637
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 6: and after a rained laying the ninth inning with a

638
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 6: tie game, the Pirates top the Tigers eight four and

639
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 6: ten innings to split their double header today. The Cardinal

640
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 6: defeated the White Sox eighty six and ten innings to

641
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 6: take both games in their doubleheader.

642
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: Today and uh.

643
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 6: In soccer at the Corn kak Off, Gold Club Gold

644
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 6: Cup USA defeated Yeah, you know what.

645
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 3: Gold Club is a much different place, I know, Gold Cup. Yeah,

646
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: gold Come. I'm gonna keep on Gold Club, Gold Cup.

647
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: Different place you have, say in Atlanta. So okay, there

648
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 3: you go. Wings for everybody to advance to the knockout round.

649
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 6: Okay, back to you.

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Speaker 3: He's like, I'm out lots of Gold Club.

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Speaker 1: There we go.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, now we know, now we know.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Jess, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon Love

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Speaker 1: from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.

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Speaker 3: Coming up next.

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Speaker 1: It's not every day that the best player of a sports.

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Speaker 3: Says, yeah, I don't know what my future holds. Wait

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Speaker 3: a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute.

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Speaker 1: What Maybe you're gonna get Maybe you can get traded,

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Speaker 1: maybe gonna go sign someplace else.

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Speaker 3: You'll hear it. Coming up next, Radio Jason and Mike.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern seven pm.

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Speaker 2: Pacific and here it is.

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Speaker 3: I said it was gonna happen. It's happening. I said,

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Speaker 3: all week you talk about bold predictions.

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Speaker 2: I got wrong. Nothing bold about it. McMahon.

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Speaker 3: I said it was happening. It's happening.

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Speaker 1: It's bubbling under the ground like some oil, like some crude.

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Speaker 1: Padres lead the Dodgers five nothing as the Padres bat

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Speaker 1: in the top of the ninth inning. This series has

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Speaker 1: been full of emotions. Players have been getting hit for

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Speaker 1: Nano to tease Junior getting hit, show Heyo Tani was

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Speaker 1: getting hit. It has been a big emotional series. And

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Speaker 1: Fernando to tist Junior.

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Speaker 3: Was just hit. And this this is insane.

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Speaker 1: What's happening right now? Because I think the managers are

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Speaker 1: going to fight to tease Junior gets They have not

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Speaker 1: shown a replay, but it looked like he was up.

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Speaker 3: In his hands.

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Speaker 1: He's hitting the top of the ninth inning with one out,

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Speaker 1: Padres up five to nothing. Uh to tease Junior is

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Speaker 1: on the ground. Mike Shilt comes streaming out of the dug.

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Speaker 3: Oh, here goes Dave Roberts.

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Speaker 1: I think he's trying to circle past everybody to get

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Speaker 1: to child Shilt.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, know me on the mound, man, see

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Speaker 3: me on the mound. Let's go.

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Speaker 1: So Shilt comes out and he is screaming. It looks

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Speaker 1: like he's making a b line for the pitchers mound,

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Speaker 1: and he is. You can see the f bombs coming

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Speaker 1: off of him while this is going on right now,

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Speaker 1: and and and this is now a thing. He comes out,

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Speaker 1: he's yelling, he's yelling, he's yelling. And then I've said

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Speaker 1: all week the Padres and Dodgers are gonna brawl at

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Speaker 1: some point this year. It's going to happen. They need

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Speaker 1: to settle these these emotions, and they need to get

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Speaker 1: because every game is more and more fraught with tension. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you gotta relieve that pressure valve. At some point I

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Speaker 1: said it was good. I said it may not be

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Speaker 1: this series, but they are absolutely going to brawl at

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Speaker 1: some point. Right So Jack little hits to tease. Shilt

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Speaker 1: comes running out, looks like he's going towards the mound,

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Speaker 1: and then the bench is empty, and they both run

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Speaker 1: at each other, and it looks like they all congregate

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Speaker 1: right around the backstop. And then Dave Roberts is behind everybody.

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Speaker 1: Dave Roberts kind of doing the fake tough guy, hold

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Speaker 1: me back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, kick yourrast you want me.

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Speaker 1: It looked like he's doing the Jerry Stiller you want

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Speaker 1: to You're saying you want a piece of meat. I said,

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Speaker 1: Oh man, he's yelling and he's yelling and he's gesturing

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Speaker 1: like come on, bring it. Mike Shilt is yelling from

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Speaker 1: behind everybody else and then Dave Roberts kind of circumvents

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Speaker 1: doesn't end run where he goes around.

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Speaker 3: The whole all the players who are on the field.

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Speaker 1: Looks like he's there saying, hey, you come talk to me,

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Speaker 1: Come talk to me. Mike Shilt walks away, and everybody

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Speaker 1: is still on the field. Right now at Chavez Ravine,

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Speaker 1: the entire Padres team is on the field, The entire

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Speaker 1: Dodgers team is on the field, and it looks like

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Speaker 1: they're all protecting their their managers. That's the crazy part

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Speaker 1: of this. Ta Oscar Hernandez now in front of Roberts.

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Speaker 1: Now Roberts circling again, Shilts lost, his glasses are in

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Speaker 1: his hand.

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Speaker 3: That's how you know it got serious, you know, Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Ip telling you I said it was

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Speaker 1: gonna happen, and it did. Can't really tell if there

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Speaker 1: were any punches thrown. Now both seat teams have been separated,

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Speaker 1: but they were both together up against the wall, and

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Speaker 1: and Shilt and Dave Roberts were absolutely going at it

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Speaker 1: from like fifty feet away. And Roberts is still I

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Speaker 1: looked at if I could read his lips looking he says,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get your blank.

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Speaker 3: That just looks like you're saying.

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Speaker 1: He's pointing, And I don't know if he's pointing a

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Speaker 1: Shilt or not, because they're showing Roberts, but he's yelling,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get your blank, and he's pointing as he's

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Speaker 1: going back to what he said, I was gonna beat

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Speaker 1: your ass.

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Speaker 3: Might be saying that it might be for something or

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Speaker 3: some derivative.

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Speaker 1: Now you got Tay Oscar going up with and talking

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Speaker 1: to Shilt. Yeah, obviously we've seen it. We saw the piez.

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Speaker 1: He's not a big dog and you know talk from

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Speaker 1: earlier in the the series.

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Speaker 3: And then he got plunked, uh and more screaming who.

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Speaker 1: Do you think you are? I am, and all all

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Speaker 1: of these things. Uh but really no, uh, no brawl.

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Speaker 1: And now Shilton Hernandez laughing it up as they're walking

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Speaker 1: down up up the baseline. So, uh, calmer heads prevail,

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Speaker 1: not not nearly the the fisticuffs, we don't.

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Speaker 3: But Dave Roberts, I can't wait for his post. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it'll be fiery.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so I'm gonna take a win on this.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a win in this Padres Dodger cleared.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you take, you take the w tom taking.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of posturing and a lot of but

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Speaker 1: but you got you gotta let some of that heat off, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean that that's the thing.

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Speaker 3: It's just been building.

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Speaker 1: And as soon as you get one of your stars hit,

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Speaker 1: because those are the kind of hit by pitches that

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Speaker 1: become things.

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Speaker 3: Right when you're talking about your hands and your wrists.

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Speaker 1: We've seen guys miss months of action due to stuff

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Speaker 1: like that.

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Speaker 3: And while you're still competive.

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Speaker 1: You're six games back of the Dodgers right now in

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Speaker 1: the standings, but you know it's a long season ahead.

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Speaker 1: So for Shilton Company, I don't blame him. A little

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Speaker 1: bump between he and Roberts to get this thing started

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Speaker 1: before the umpires got in the way. They were derelicting

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Speaker 1: their duties to let the two of them get his

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Speaker 1: clubs to actually make physical contact with one another. But hey,

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Speaker 1: it provided a thrill on this beautiful Thursday night because

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Speaker 1: the basketball game didn't. That sucked to the men's national team.

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Speaker 1: At least gave us some juice. Caitlin Clark was no

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Speaker 1: good man. I'm trying to find wins here.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: We almost had a manager brawl, almost almost had any

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, really, that's what have been something

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Speaker 1: Forget about the players.

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Speaker 3: We almost had a manager brawl.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the last time we got anything near that.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's when Pedro dumped on Zimmer. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm taking the w it was. It was as enough

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Speaker 1: you at least get a push. So what's happening right

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Speaker 1: now is to tease. Junior was was escorted off the field,

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Speaker 1: looked like by a trainer who was holding his hand

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Speaker 1: up right, which is the dreaded oode. And something happened

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Speaker 1: that I could hit. Yeah, So he's walking off the field.

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Speaker 1: He's walking off the field with his wrist being held up.

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Speaker 1: Dave Roberts is talking to two of the umpires. Meanwhile

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Speaker 1: Mike Schilt is talking to the other two umpires. These

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Speaker 1: guys are not get thrown out This is like in

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Speaker 1: a This is like in a in a parking lot

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Speaker 1: brawl at night. Okay, you talked to the one guy,

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Speaker 1: I'll talk to the other guy. We'll try to keep

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Speaker 1: everybody inside. But legitimately I could be in the dugout

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Speaker 1: and say that was a bleeping strike because ya Momono

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Speaker 1: got screwed in the first right should have had an

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Speaker 1: amac lee immaculate any if he'd questioned the balls and strike,

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Speaker 1: he could have been thrown out. But he can literally

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Speaker 1: go and physically accost the other manager, and it's a

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Speaker 1: play on. I'm curious about the ruling. We're getting an

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Speaker 1: announcement of the umpires. I believe they said they're gonna

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Speaker 1: go back and look at something I don't know. I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: we had Andy pa has getting hit. We had this

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Speaker 1: is a second time, Tatisa gotten hit. Oh Tani got hit.

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Speaker 1: This has been full of bean balls on his Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Yeah page as well. I mean, some fun with it.

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Speaker 1: It is, it has it has been a series, and

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Speaker 1: now the bench is empty.

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Speaker 3: I'm taking the w on it. I'm taking the I'm.

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Speaker 1: Taking the the managers made physical contact, well, no punches

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Speaker 1: were thrown. We got a belly bump and a chest bump.

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Speaker 3: That's enough.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I believe Dave Roberts may have actually been

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Speaker 1: Uh yes.

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Speaker 3: He looks like he's leading.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like he didn't know that he was

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Speaker 1: thrown out. He's leaving Mike shilt Is. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he would see him at the moment. I don't

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Speaker 1: see him. And they're waiting to finish this game again.

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Speaker 1: Five nothing top of the ninth inning. Uh, we just

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Speaker 1: saw Jack got with the Dodgers come back and they

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Speaker 1: get sticks on the bottom of the ninth Oh, Tani

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Speaker 1: hits a walk off. Yeah, so the umpires are conferring

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Speaker 1: a home plate for something. But yeah, there it is,

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Speaker 1: benches empty, padres and the Dodgers five nothing in the

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Speaker 1: ninth inning. Oh boy.

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Speaker 3: I hope he's all right though.

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Speaker 1: So we'll have more on this big breaking story coming

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Speaker 1: up next, as well as the biggest door of a

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Speaker 1: sport may want to leave his team.

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Speaker 3: That's next, Jason and Mike Fox