WEBVTT - “I WAS A DRUNK MALL ELF”

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<v Speaker 1>Hello.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this a therapy?

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<v Speaker 1>Get go? Yes? Is this You didn't even give me

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<v Speaker 1>your name? What's your name? Or give me a fake name?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, I'm gonna give you a fake name.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to call you John so John, Yes, Gecko?

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? Man? What's up? You texted me and you said,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about how I went from being

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<v Speaker 1>a Santa Elf to a being a clown influencer to

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<v Speaker 1>being a school teacher. What is this? You seem like

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<v Speaker 1>you've had an interesting career trajectory. I'd like to hear

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<v Speaker 1>about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the pipeline is definitely strange for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>I started being a clown or not a clown. I

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<v Speaker 2>started being a clown years ago. I started being a

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<v Speaker 2>Santa Elf because I was kicked out of my mom's

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<v Speaker 2>house when I was like seventeen, and so I started

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<v Speaker 2>being a clown or not a clown elf. And it

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<v Speaker 2>was a really weird experience. The people there were always

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<v Speaker 2>on drugs and I don't know, it was just an experience.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure. I was an alcoholic at the time, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be like a drunk elf and I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a weird experience. I lived in a weird house.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where to go from there.

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<v Speaker 1>But you were like living that movie Bad Santa.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, for sure. I was definitely in Bad Santa.

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<v Speaker 2>I almost went back this year as like a side

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<v Speaker 2>hustle on top of being a teacher, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I don't know if I can go back

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<v Speaker 2>with how much I've changed since the last time I

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<v Speaker 2>was Santa Elf, because I was definitely not the best

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<v Speaker 2>Santa Elf.

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<v Speaker 1>I have questions. So, all right, so you were kicked

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<v Speaker 1>out at seventeen and you dropped You dropped out of

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<v Speaker 1>high school around then.

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<v Speaker 2>I dropped out of high school like six months before

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<v Speaker 2>because I kind of could tell I was about to.

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<v Speaker 3>Get kicked out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah I'm in college now, but I great. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>was kicked out and I didn't know what job to work,

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<v Speaker 2>and I saw a posting for Santa and I applied

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<v Speaker 2>as a joke. And then they called me back and

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, how old are you? And I was like, seventeen,

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<v Speaker 2>can I still be Santa? And they gave me an

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<v Speaker 2>interview for Santa, but they said it didn't work out,

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<v Speaker 2>so they gave you Santa Elf.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you skinny or fat.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not skinny at whatsoever, but I'm definitely not old

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<v Speaker 2>looking enough to be Santa.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like a seventeen first of all, a

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen first of all, people lining up to sit on

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<v Speaker 1>a seventeen year old lap a little weird, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It's got to be illegal.

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<v Speaker 1>That's got to be illegal. So I think, yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>better suited to be uh an Elf. I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>so interesting. So you just applied as a job, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>not his job as a joke. What was your experience

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<v Speaker 1>at the time that that made them call you back?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I used to work a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>events stuff. That's kind of what led me into clowning.

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<v Speaker 2>I used to work at my city's art museum and

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<v Speaker 2>like a bunch of stuff. So I think they were

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<v Speaker 2>just like, yeah, he could probably Santa Santa or Santa Elf.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was a weird experience because there was like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's such intense drama with all of the Santas and

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<v Speaker 2>all of the ELFs.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to hear some stories of drama in

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<v Speaker 1>the uh in the Elf Santa universe.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I think my favorite Santa where there was drama, Well, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I have two favorite Santa's where there's drama. One was

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<v Speaker 2>so unbelievably narcissistic and abusive to his daughter that was

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<v Speaker 2>a Santa elf. And he was also really homophobic and

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<v Speaker 2>really transphobic, and the manager was gay, and so my

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<v Speaker 2>manager hated him. And he would into such intense fights,

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<v Speaker 2>like moments before we're opening the door for a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of children to come in, you could see them in

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<v Speaker 2>the window, like screaming at each other, and he would

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<v Speaker 2>like come the like that Santa would come into work

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<v Speaker 2>drunk almost every single day and it was really really goofy.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, honest, I do feel like like being a

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<v Speaker 1>mall Santa, it is kind of a great job for

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<v Speaker 1>someone who's a narcissist, right, Like you're the guy you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know Santa.

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<v Speaker 2>The daughter was like the whole reason he's Santa is

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<v Speaker 2>because he's narcissistic and he couldn't find a job where

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<v Speaker 2>he could get more attention than being the Santa what

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<v Speaker 2>a I I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean, I mean, look, if you're gonna look if that's

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<v Speaker 1>just part of who you are, right is, like you

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<v Speaker 1>have this grand desire for attention. Being a mall Santa

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<v Speaker 1>is not the worst outlet I've ever heard of for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, for sure. I feel like it's honestly probably

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<v Speaker 2>the best outlet if you're gonna do anything. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like that's the least harmful. And the other Santa that

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<v Speaker 2>I really loved, where's a lot of drama. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>really funny. He definitely had dementia and didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>admit it, and he would just get confused all the

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<v Speaker 2>time and be like who's this? Where am I? He's

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<v Speaker 2>like look down in his Santa suit and he's like

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<v Speaker 2>what's going on all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>See, a narcissist would make a good Santa, but someone

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<v Speaker 1>with dementia that'd be kind of hard because Santa's known

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<v Speaker 1>for being like omnipotent, you know what I mean, Like

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<v Speaker 1>he's supposed to like know, He's like God, He's like

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to know everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>So what happened this? This the second Santa that you liked? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>was there any drama or you just liked him? He's

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<v Speaker 1>a cool guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I just liked him.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was funny because he just like never knew

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<v Speaker 2>where he was. And then there was also like missus

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<v Speaker 2>Claus drama because she kept calling the like seventeen year

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<v Speaker 2>old elves whores? Really strange.

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<v Speaker 1>Why was she calling the elves whores?

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<v Speaker 2>The elves were all hooking up and like everyone knew it.

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<v Speaker 2>I was not personally hooking up because I'm in a

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<v Speaker 2>long term relationship, but every other elf was like hardcore

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<v Speaker 2>hooking up with each other. So much drama at work.

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<v Speaker 2>And one time this girl was sitting like on the

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<v Speaker 2>floor and missus Claus comes up to her and goes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's how hookers sit in the Netherlands. If you sit

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<v Speaker 2>like that, you're gonna get asked for sex. And we

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<v Speaker 2>were like at Santa.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh, how many how many elves worked here?

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<v Speaker 2>I think about thirty elves. Yeah, I knew all the

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<v Speaker 2>elves because I'd be there at different times of day,

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<v Speaker 2>so I had all of the drama of all of

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<v Speaker 2>the elves and all of the Santas, and I did

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<v Speaker 2>not hold it very well because I was very drunk

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<v Speaker 2>and high at work every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Were all the other elves also very drunk and high

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<v Speaker 1>at work every day?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah? People would take smoke breaks off the time,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were like the most hated people in the

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<v Speaker 2>store because we worked at a really fancy department store,

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<v Speaker 2>and like every other department in the store actively made

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<v Speaker 2>fun of us and like would bet on who's going

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<v Speaker 2>to quit?

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<v Speaker 1>The soonest are all of the are were all of

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<v Speaker 1>the elves like high school kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Not necessarily a lot of them were just because it

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<v Speaker 2>was like minimum wage. But there was a few, like

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<v Speaker 2>middle aged women who were just doing it as a

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<v Speaker 2>side hustle and then they would like party with the

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<v Speaker 2>like children, which was funny. And there was also this

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<v Speaker 2>one middle aged lady that was an ELF that would

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<v Speaker 2>not leave people on the street alone because it was

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<v Speaker 2>her job to get people to come in. And one

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<v Speaker 2>time she harassed this Jewish family because they were like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to come in, and she was like

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<v Speaker 2>why and they're like, I'm Jewish and and she was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, so, dude, Jewish people love Santa. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that, but I believe you, Yeah, dude. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the first things that my my dad did, uh

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<v Speaker 1>after I probably shouldn't tk about this, but I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to One of the first things my dad did after

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<v Speaker 1>he and my mom split up was he bought a

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<v Speaker 1>Christmas tree. That's what he always wanted to fucking he

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<v Speaker 1>was Jewish. His whole his whole life, he was told,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as a Jew, he could not celebrate Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>And then finally, you know, a single man in his

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<v Speaker 1>late forties, he's getting his ass a Christmas tree. He's

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<v Speaker 1>reliving the uh you know, his his his dreams is

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<v Speaker 1>from a child from childhood.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, my my ex girlfriend was Jewish and her the

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<v Speaker 2>only reason they were Jewish is because of her grandma.

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<v Speaker 2>And when her grandma died, she cheered because she was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I can finally eat bacon and celebrate Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, every every every Jewish, every Jewish kid. Because

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<v Speaker 1>when you were a child like and you see every

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<v Speaker 1>one else like celebrating Christmas, you feel a little bad

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<v Speaker 1>that you can't do it. And so when those shackles

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<v Speaker 1>are released, it's it's, uh, you know, the Jews are

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<v Speaker 1>overdosing on Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I as a school teacher during the holiday scene

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<v Speaker 2>and none of my kids are Jewish, but they were

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<v Speaker 2>asking me, like, why does it Santa visit Jewish people?

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<v Speaker 2>And I said I don't know, because I was like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't want to dive in and tell

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<v Speaker 2>them something something stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we have Hanikah Harry, but he's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a.

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<v Speaker 2>Creep Hankah Harry, Yeah, we.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't talk about him. But anyway, all right, so you're

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<v Speaker 1>working at how long? Were you an elf?

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<v Speaker 2>For like three or four months?

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<v Speaker 3>I think?

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<v Speaker 1>All right? And what made you quit?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't quit. I got it was like a seasonal

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<v Speaker 2>thing because Santa only lasts for so.

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<v Speaker 1>Long, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I worked at a coffee chain, a really

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<v Speaker 2>evil one, for a couple of weeks and it's so horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>So I begged my old manager at Santa to get

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<v Speaker 2>me a job at the department store, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>worked there for a while, and I kind of had

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<v Speaker 2>a breaking point of like, if I work in retail

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<v Speaker 2>any longer, I think I'll fall apart. So that's how

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<v Speaker 2>I started looking into being a teacher.

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<v Speaker 1>And so is that what you do now?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm an after school teacher and it's pretty insane.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's actually funnier than being an elf, because

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<v Speaker 2>with an elf, like the all you see of the

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<v Speaker 2>kids is crying and screaming and waiting for Santa, and

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<v Speaker 2>the things I see on the daily as an after

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<v Speaker 2>school teacher is just so much funnier.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the funniest thing you've seen as an after school teacher.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, there's so many. There's so many. I have like

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<v Speaker 2>a quote page in my journal of funny shit they say.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the funniest thing I've ever not witnessed but

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<v Speaker 2>heard a kids say was he was reading this garf

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<v Speaker 2>comic and he was like, why would he eat my

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<v Speaker 2>My coworkers like, why would he not eat Lazan on Mondays?

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<v Speaker 2>If he hates Mondays? And the kid goes, well, think

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<v Speaker 2>about it. If your dad died, would you want to

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<v Speaker 2>eat Lazania the next day? And they were like what

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<v Speaker 2>And he was like, diet tip, kill your dad.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait. I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't get it either. I had no idea what

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<v Speaker 2>he was talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>I wait, yeah, wait, actually hold on, I do get

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<v Speaker 1>it a little bit. It kind of makes sense, right

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you kill your father, like because when

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<v Speaker 1>people are more No, no, no, Actually I know exactly what's

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<v Speaker 1>kid saying. Because if you're in mourning, you will want

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<v Speaker 1>to eat less, So you should kill your family so

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<v Speaker 1>that you're too sad to eat. Is that's what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you should just kill your family, But don't, don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not condoning that, but kill your family.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you don't condone killing your family.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean in some circumstances. I think it's situational. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think everyone should go around killing their family. But like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I don't know your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's the situation where you should kill your family.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't know. I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to sound saying oh, I mean like

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<v Speaker 2>the Gypsy Rose shit or something. I don't know. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like there's certain circumstances where it's the only way out

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<v Speaker 2>as a murder. I guess, like, do what you want

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<v Speaker 2>with your life. I'm I'm not. I don't have a moral.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I have morals, but I'm not gonna put

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<v Speaker 2>morals over people I don't know their life.

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<v Speaker 1>I respect that. Hold you now.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been working as a teacher since September. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the funniest thing I've ever witnessed recently, though, was it

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<v Speaker 2>was actually kind of horrific where these kids got in

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<v Speaker 2>a fight and another kid tried to choke someone out

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<v Speaker 2>with a jump rope.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus fucking christ Man. So I'm curious. I'm curious, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to ask. So it's all this stuff is very

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<v Speaker 1>recent and so, I mean a few questions for you. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>one is, so you dropped out of high school? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you get your GED?

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of I'm in this weird program where it's like

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<v Speaker 2>you take your GED tests and you go to college,

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<v Speaker 2>but instead at the end they give you a diploma.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure how it works or is legal. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. I'm just I'm just in it, just giving

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<v Speaker 2>me free college.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, okay, and uh, what was I

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say? Are you? How are how are you able

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<v Speaker 1>to get a teaching job without a college degree.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really good at talking my way into things, but

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<v Speaker 2>since it's after school, you're not required to, they just

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<v Speaker 2>like strongly want it. But I just kind of went

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<v Speaker 2>on a tangent about how I was an elf and

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<v Speaker 2>like I babysat or something like that. I definitely was

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<v Speaker 2>not qualified enough for my job. It's definitely been interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I love my job, but it's definitely been interesting trying

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<v Speaker 2>to navigate it because I'm definitely not qualified.

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<v Speaker 1>And how are you on the alcohol now?

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<v Speaker 2>Sober? Sort of? Like I actually, I like I stopped

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<v Speaker 2>drinking for a long time, and then I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think I can drink, but I just

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<v Speaker 2>can't drink every day because I didn't want to, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I was just like, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to never drink ever again. I don't want to like

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<v Speaker 2>waste all my alcohol, like all my all. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to waste all the alcohol and being like an

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<v Speaker 2>edgy sixteen seventeen year old. But I don't drink very often.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like very very random at this point. I mostly

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<v Speaker 2>drank because when I was a Santa Elf, I had

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<v Speaker 2>a really little ext roommate and I tried to stop drinking,

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<v Speaker 2>but they were like, you're not even an alcoholic. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't drink as much as me, or some shit like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I mean, you're a young fucking guy, John,

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<v Speaker 1>What are you going to what's your plan? What are

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<v Speaker 1>you gonna do? Now?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I what do you desire for life?

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<v Speaker 2>I've just been focusing on doing the most shit possible.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to experience stuff. I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>be funny and goofy. I try to put myself in

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<v Speaker 2>social situations where I have to talk to strangers and

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<v Speaker 2>I host clown events. That's the clown part. I host

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<v Speaker 2>local clown events. I had a really big, technically illegal

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<v Speaker 2>clown punk show slash pageant in the park a few

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<v Speaker 2>months ago.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds fucking awesome. What dude, Can I ask you

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<v Speaker 1>what state you live in? Or is that too much information? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care. I live in Washington, live.

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<v Speaker 1>In Portland, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? No, I do not live in Portland.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, you you host hold on? You hosted in a

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<v Speaker 1>legal clown You hosted in illegal punk clown pageants.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was actually really awesome. I was like looked

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<v Speaker 2>into getting the permitting to do stuff at the park

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<v Speaker 2>and then I realized it's like two hundred dollars and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, there's no way I'm paying the city

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred dollars to do this. And thankfully no one

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<v Speaker 2>called the cops, which I was really surprised because that

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<v Speaker 2>area is very cop colleague. But there was a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of because it was a public parks that weren't involved,

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<v Speaker 2>that looked very horrified because it was like a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of clowns washing to this local band. And then the

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<v Speaker 2>pageant part was like I was hosting this like fight

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<v Speaker 2>to the death. I posted it and I was like

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<v Speaker 2>fight to the death for your honor and fifty dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was eight clown men. They had a talent thing.

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite round is when they all threw pie at

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<v Speaker 2>me all at once, and it wasn't like a cream

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<v Speaker 2>pile like a normal clown throw because we couldn't find

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<v Speaker 2>any So they were just throwing like cherry or apple

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<v Speaker 2>pie at me or something and they just got big

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<v Speaker 2>handfuls because we didn't have enough pie for everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, real quick, John, real quick, John, I really want

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<v Speaker 1>to hammer in on this because what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, I find it fascinating. I'm very impressed

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<v Speaker 1>that you're so fucking young and you're you know, showing

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<v Speaker 1>the initiative to like do all this stuff. Because I

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<v Speaker 1>want to press on this for like logistical reasons because

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<v Speaker 1>one of the big things that people talk about on

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<v Speaker 1>this show that is also honestly a big thing in

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<v Speaker 1>like my own personal life, is like, how do you

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<v Speaker 1>form community? Right, Like, how do you how do you

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<v Speaker 1>make friends as an adult? How do you form community?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you kind of make your own thing and

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<v Speaker 1>to go out and make a It's what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it so much because you're going like okay,

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<v Speaker 1>like who who am I? And like what's important to me?

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<v Speaker 1>And how can I put it out in the universe

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<v Speaker 1>in this way that like builds community. And you're like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do an illegal punk clown pageant that fucking rocks.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you could just tell us real quick, like

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<v Speaker 1>what are the what were the logistics of it? Like

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<v Speaker 1>how did you get people to show up? How did

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<v Speaker 1>you spread the word?

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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 1>Like me, give me some logistics?

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<v Speaker 2>Actually were my not my whole inspiration, but like like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to do this. You was like talk a

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<v Speaker 2>lot about making your own thing if it's not a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And when I worked at the department store and I

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<v Speaker 2>dropped out of high school and I had like no

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<v Speaker 2>social interaction, I was like, I have to force myself

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<v Speaker 2>to make my own and then I was trying to

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<v Speaker 2>think of what I could do, and then I had

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<v Speaker 2>the first one that was also illegal, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>like less illegal because there wasn't like money being exchanged.

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<v Speaker 2>But for that one, it was a lot of reaching

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<v Speaker 2>out to random people I know and seeing who they

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<v Speaker 2>know and kind of just being like, are you a clown?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you want to do?

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<v Speaker 3>Will you?

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<v Speaker 2>What do you want to do at the thing, so

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<v Speaker 2>there was I reached out to a band I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I reached out to my friend that is a line cook,

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<v Speaker 2>and he set up I probably not food handlers, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>not food handlers safe like free barbecue where I bought

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<v Speaker 2>all the groceries. I was like hands and shishka bobs

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<v Speaker 2>or some shit out to clowns. And I had like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of local artists that I was friends with

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<v Speaker 2>from working at the our museum and working all over

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<v Speaker 2>the place, and they evented and it was I needed

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<v Speaker 2>a I needed a lot of more help than I anticipated.

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<v Speaker 2>But most of the frustrating part was just figuring out

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<v Speaker 2>where to get a generator because I didn't realize how

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<v Speaker 2>hard it is to find one, how expensive it is,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had to get a lot. I had to

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<v Speaker 2>have like five clowns lifted up for me. But I

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<v Speaker 2>basically just picked a random park and went from there.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of go into event planning in a shitty

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<v Speaker 2>way where I don't really like plan it out super well.

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<v Speaker 1>I just kind of no, no, no, no, I'm gonna tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you, so I'm gonna tell you something.

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<v Speaker 1>You go into an event planning in the best way,

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<v Speaker 1>which is that you fucking do it, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. Like a lot of people are like, uh oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that would be cool, and then they never

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<v Speaker 1>do it. That's the worst way to do event planning.

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<v Speaker 1>You do it. Don't try to get it. Don't try

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<v Speaker 1>to get it. It twisted. But but anyway, So, so John,

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<v Speaker 1>before we go, I want to kind of wrap this

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, I want to tell you I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>impressed with you, dude. I mean to go from like

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<v Speaker 1>getting kicked out of your house at seventeen by your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you and your mom still cool? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're really cool. It was entirely because of her boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>So I we we're cool. We hang all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool. So I mean, dude, I'm very impressed with you that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, at such a fucking young age, you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>like taking control of your own life, not succumbing to

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<v Speaker 1>your addictions, like like like a mazle tove to you,

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<v Speaker 1>my dude, Like that's all really cool. I'm inspired by

0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:48.440
<v Speaker 1>you genuinely. You just did this random clown pageant thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do more shit. I want to do

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<v Speaker 1>more shit like that. See, I'm a bad event promoter,

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm in my head about like all these things

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<v Speaker 1>that I think would be cool to do, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't do them, and you're just like, yeah, let

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<v Speaker 1>me do a fucking clown pageant. So I'm I'm inspired

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<v Speaker 1>by you, my friends.

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<v Speaker 2>I was actually really bombed because I saw that you

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<v Speaker 2>had your your gecko race here, but since I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one, I couldn't go. And I go to a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the local race here and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>they're kind of horrible, They're not very good. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, man, but I encourage if you have an idea,

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<v Speaker 2>just just start posting it online and then you have

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<v Speaker 2>to do it because you already promise people that you

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<v Speaker 2>were doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, let me know if you want to come.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing a show. I don't know if you're in Seattle,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm doing a show in Seattle. Let me know

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<v Speaker 1>if I don't know if it's any one, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if it's twenty one plus or not. Is it

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one plus?

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<v Speaker 2>Free show? Twenty one plus?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh damn, I was gonna. I was gonna. I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna invite you to come, but yeah, you got to

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<v Speaker 1>wait a couple of years anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean my friend I would get a fake ID

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<v Speaker 2>for it, and then he tried to hook me up

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<v Speaker 2>with somebody. You got me a fake idea, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, no, I'm not getting a fake ID for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not spending hundreds of dollar. It's get a fake

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<v Speaker 2>I need to go to the Gecko show.

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<v Speaker 1>Fair enough. Well, I mean here's the thing. Man, going

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<v Speaker 1>into the park and make your own illegal Gecko show.

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<v Speaker 1>You can get a bunch of people, yeah, me and

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<v Speaker 1>around to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm gonna impersonal. I'm gonna get my own gucko

0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:08.239
<v Speaker 2>costume and I'll stand outside the venue for anyone that

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<v Speaker 2>can't go in.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything else that you want to say to

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<v Speaker 1>the people of the computer before we go, John.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have an idea, do it, even if it's stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>Kiss bugs, hand out stickers, smoke weed if you like

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<v Speaker 2>to do that. And stop taking yourself so seriously. That's

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<v Speaker 2>probably the best part, the best thing that helped me

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<v Speaker 2>getting sober and in general, just stop taking yourself so seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you one final thing before we go,

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<v Speaker 1>And if you don't want to doc yourself or if

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<v Speaker 1>there's no real way to do this, then that's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but there are people in the chat, myself included, who

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<v Speaker 1>are curious. Let's say somebody is in the Seattle area

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<v Speaker 1>and would like to attend your next clown show. How

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<v Speaker 1>might one do that? If that's possible?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, I had an Instagram for it, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I don't anymore. But I'll plug my person mind.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>It's guard Knees and I regularly randomly post different clown

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<v Speaker 2>stuff and just different shit in general.

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<v Speaker 3>I tried to.

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<v Speaker 2>Host a bug meet up for people that like bus

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<v Speaker 2>but it fell through.

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<v Speaker 1>Gargoyle Just Gargoyle knees all one word.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, all one word, Gargoyle Knees. I I also, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're in the Seattle area, I'm friends with a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of event people, so if you're looking for stuff, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>usually posting it.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool. Well, everyone hit up Gargoyle Knees on Instagram if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go to the next clown time while

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in town. I'm fucking there, bro.

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<v Speaker 2>I will plug one soon. April sixth I'm having a

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<v Speaker 2>backyard circus s'mores clown party.

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<v Speaker 1>So sick, but yes, thank you, Gecko.

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<v Speaker 2>I was an honor. I've been listening to you for

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<v Speaker 2>like two years. Every time I feel miserable, I just

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<v Speaker 2>turn on the geck.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, John. You have a rest of the night.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you sharing.

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<v Speaker 2>You have good rest of your day.

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<v Speaker 1>Bye bye John. Dude. I really really really like that caller.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not bullshitting and like just blowing smoke

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<v Speaker 1>up his ass when I say I'm inspired by that,

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<v Speaker 1>because like, and he's so fucking young. He's eighteen, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's like forming this path for himself and creating community

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<v Speaker 1>with such initiative to be doing these pageants and putting

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<v Speaker 1>on all this stuff and like not letting just not

0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:35.399
<v Speaker 1>like shit stop him, you know, like, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he overcame fucking the whatever was going on in his

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<v Speaker 1>home life. He ever came having to drop out of

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<v Speaker 1>high school. He ever came like uh uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fucking any kind of social anxiety that that that you

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<v Speaker 1>know is needed to do all this stuff. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>just fucking eighteen and he's like, I don't care about

0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:55.920
<v Speaker 1>the city laws. I'm putting on my goddamn clown pageant.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. I'm inspired by it. And I hope

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<v Speaker 1>that uh, anyone listening to this goes goes check out

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:05.760
<v Speaker 1>gargoyle knees. I would love it if next time he

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<v Speaker 1>does this clown ship a whole bunch of people from

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast show up. So uh rock and roll shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to John and uh uh fucking nice man. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I have I have all these ideas for things that

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<v Speaker 1>I want to do, like little events and stuff, but

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<v Speaker 1>I just keep putting them off. That's why I said

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<v Speaker 1>I was inspired by him, because I just keep putting

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<v Speaker 1>all this show. I mean, I know I'm doing a

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<v Speaker 1>whole tour of live events and stuff, but I have

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I have all I have other ideas too,

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<v Speaker 1>so hey, follow me on Instagram too. Man, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna start hosting weird clown shit. Maybe not clowns,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe uh maybe clowns. I don't know, but yeah, thanks John.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I just another note to John. I forgot to

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<v Speaker 1>mention this, but uh whatever, I'll jinx myself. I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>a fuck. I do my gut co on the street

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:04.080
<v Speaker 1>thing where I like set up in a park and

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:07.440
<v Speaker 1>interview people and stuff. You think, but do you think

0:26:07.480 --> 0:26:10.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm paying for a permit to do that shit? You

0:26:10.640 --> 0:26:13.199
<v Speaker 1>think I'm getting permits from the city to do my

0:26:13.200 --> 0:26:15.679
<v Speaker 1>Gecko shit. You're out of your mind. Hey, folks, this

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<v Speaker 1>is Lyle. I am very excited to announce that I

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<v Speaker 1>am going back on tour in twenty twenty four to

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<v Speaker 1>do Therapy Gecko Live all across the country. If you've

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<v Speaker 1>never been to one of my live shows before, they

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:33.080
<v Speaker 1>are extremely fun, unpredictable, wild evenings that involve a mix

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<v Speaker 1>of group Gecko therapy sessions as well as some material

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:41.359
<v Speaker 1>and presentations from myself. And if you've been to the

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:44.800
<v Speaker 1>show before, I have new presentations and will of course

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 1>be interviewing new people. If you're a fan of the podcast,

0:26:48.720 --> 0:26:50.879
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have a great time at the live show,

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<v Speaker 1>So I hope to see you guys there. Go to

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<v Speaker 1>Therapy geckotour dot com or check the link in the

0:26:56.840 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>episode description for a full list of cities where tickets

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:02.840
<v Speaker 1>are available. Also, if you don't see your city on

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:05.639
<v Speaker 1>the list of cities, please still click the link and

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:08.639
<v Speaker 1>rs VP with your phone number so I can contact

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<v Speaker 1>you when tickets go on sale for your city, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to announce a bunch more dates very soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeck bless.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello.

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:21.159
<v Speaker 1>Hi? Who is this?

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:27.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh? Nice? Oh? This is a I guess you can

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<v Speaker 3>call me Gabe.

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<v Speaker 1>Gabe, my man. What's going on? How's it going?

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<v Speaker 3>Not much? Not much? My wife wants to stay Hi.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh sure, Hi.

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<v Speaker 4>My husband's obsessed with you.

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:43.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm obsessed with your husband. That's why I called him.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get my moment with him.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god. Yeah, okay, I'm gonna come back on okay.

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<v Speaker 3>All right. So no, yeah, I've been going to actual

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 3>therapy and I told my therapist about you, and uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I invited him to come see you on when you

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 3>come to Miami. And he said, yeah, you and.

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<v Speaker 1>Your therapist are coming to one of my lives just together.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that crazier? Is that crazier or what is that?

0:28:09.359 --> 0:28:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Is that like weird to like hang out with your therapist?

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<v Speaker 3>So I started I started crying. What he said, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I thought so weird?

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<v Speaker 1>You started crying. Why did you start crying? When he

0:28:17.520 --> 0:28:18.320
<v Speaker 1>said yes, I.

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:20.920
<v Speaker 3>Got a little emotional, you know, because like I don't

0:28:20.960 --> 0:28:22.399
<v Speaker 3>have friends, and you know.

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>You don't have anything. Well, okay, well you have one friend.

0:28:25.000 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Your wife seems like your your wife seems like she

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:30.760
<v Speaker 1>likes you. I don't think she would live in a

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 1>house with you. And get married to you if she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to be your friends.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, well, the well, the problem is that I would

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:38.440
<v Speaker 3>go with her, but she's about to have a baby,

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<v Speaker 3>like next month, so she wouldn't really be able to

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<v Speaker 3>come with me when you come to Miami.

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 1>So why because she's too she's too pregnant to come.

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, not too pregnant. She just had the baby, and

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:52.760
<v Speaker 3>we don't have we don't really have anybody to watch them,

0:28:53.320 --> 0:28:55.440
<v Speaker 3>watch watch the kids. You know, I have like two

0:28:55.480 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 3>of the kids in the house right now too.

0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 1>That's nice for her to watch the kid while you

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:02.200
<v Speaker 1>go to see my show with your therapist.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna reconfirm with him, hopefully, he says yes. Again.

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know if I should be confirmed with

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<v Speaker 3>him or not, but I just want to make sure

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't seem too weird?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it okay? So, I mean, this is an interesting thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think like hanging out with your therapist socially

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 1>would be weird?

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<v Speaker 3>No? No, we're cool as fuck. The thing is like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's cool with him. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like it's fine, you know, but I don't know if

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 3>that's like hip hop protocol you saw me. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>not like I'm gonna slitch on him or nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Now do you have are you afraid that? Like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe like you and your therapist, you go to the show,

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:41.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe you get some drinks afterwards, maybe you get some

0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 1>drinks during and maybe you guys are at the bar

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:46.959
<v Speaker 1>and and you just you start going in on them, right,

0:29:47.040 --> 0:29:48.960
<v Speaker 1>not going not like going in on them, but like

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:51.600
<v Speaker 1>you start start no, not hitting on him, not hitting

0:29:51.640 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I didn't say hitting, no, like you just start telling him.

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 1>You start like you know, laying out your your your

0:29:57.560 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 1>normal therapy stuff, and he's looking at you like, dude,

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:01.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, I.

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:04.720
<v Speaker 3>Would like to tell him more my my my real ship,

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 3>because I don't want him to jot down my crazy ship.

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 3>You know, I have like an addiction ship. You know,

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:15.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't want him writing down. So maybe he could

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 3>help me, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So the idea would be that you go out with

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 1>him socially and you are you trying to get some

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 1>free therapy out of this or are you gonna keep it?

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:29.479
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, just talk to him and see what

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:32.480
<v Speaker 3>he thinks, you know, maybe can help me with that.

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm not trying to I'm trying to hang out and

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:36.560
<v Speaker 3>see the geck though.

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 1>What if you guys, what if you guys become like

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 1>really good friends. What if you become such good friends

0:30:41.360 --> 0:30:43.400
<v Speaker 1>that like you can't be he can't be your therapist

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 1>anymore because.

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 3>It's uh, I mean friends, friends talk to each other.

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's therapy itself.

0:30:49.520 --> 0:30:53.360
<v Speaker 1>You know what did he say when you told him? Okay?

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 3>So you hed hey, and then I started crying.

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 1>So you said, hey, there's this fake gecko therapist guy he's.

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 3>Doing a couple of weeks ago, I'm like, Yo, you

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:08.480
<v Speaker 3>should really listen to this guy. He's a gecko. Can

0:31:08.560 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 3>he get here just like a therapist? And he's like,

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, I'm gonna check him out. And then a

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:16.480
<v Speaker 3>couple of weeks later, I'm like, yo, you know he's

0:31:16.480 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 3>coming coming to Miami. He's going to go see him.

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 3>And then he's like hell yeah, And I'm like, don't worry,

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:24.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna pay for everything I got you. And I

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:26.800
<v Speaker 3>at a little tearyd because I get emotional.

0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Why do you feel like you get emotional for? Why

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:32.240
<v Speaker 1>why do you feel like this made yourself?

0:31:33.040 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm I don't know, I've been through a lot. You know,

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:39.480
<v Speaker 3>and I'm scary motherfucker. You know I still cry.

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 1>You're a scary motherfucker.

0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:46.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oll at least people think I'm scary. People think

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm aggressive. I don't think I'm not. I'm just I'm Cuban.

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm loud. You feel me, like, I don't know. The

0:31:52.760 --> 0:31:55.680
<v Speaker 3>way I talk, I guess is like a little too

0:31:56.000 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 3>intimidating or I don't know. People think i'm People think

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:02.960
<v Speaker 3>I talk Mexican. I ain't know Mexican. I'm in Miami.

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 3>There's how people in Miami talking for me?

0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Are you Cuban?

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:08.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm Cuban.

0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Okay, there's a large Cuban population down there, right.

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, this is a Cuban city over here.

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay. So so people think that you're like a tough guy,

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 1>but you're really a big soft.

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because I have a beard and you know, I'm

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 3>like three hundred pounds, Like I don't look three hundred pounds,

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:33.440
<v Speaker 3>but I'm like big if I'm black, big bone. But

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:35.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I'm cool, man. I don't know why people

0:32:35.840 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 3>fucking get so scared of me, Like my wife's family

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:42.080
<v Speaker 3>hates me, like shit, wild over here.

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 1>Is your Why do you think your wife's family hates you.

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, they're fucking walking fuck. I try to

0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 3>like be nice to the family and ship, but like

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 3>I started them, I started noticing them lying to me

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 3>in my face, and I found out what the lives were,

0:32:58.200 --> 0:32:59.720
<v Speaker 3>so I know they lied to me. I'm like, damn,

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 3>y y'all can just talk to me normal, like y'all

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 3>show me some little kids like whyle y'are lying to me.

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 3>Show me, but it's all good, the fake motherfuckers and

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:10.000
<v Speaker 3>let me not get involved with those types of people.

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 3>There's no point, my wife warned me. But I was

0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 3>just trying to like rekindle her family, you know, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Give me so, So give me a second here, Gabe,

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:23.479
<v Speaker 1>because there's I I have like seven you There's like

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 1>six different things I want to Well, there's.

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 3>One main thing I want to talk to you about

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 3>because I went crazy today.

0:33:29.560 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, sorright, So I mean there's a thousand

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I want to know about. I mean, obviously I only

0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 1>want to know about what you want to talk about

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:38.920
<v Speaker 1>on this podcast. But like you've brought up You've brought

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 1>up many different You've brought up many different things that

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:42.080
<v Speaker 1>we could delve into.

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 3>If you have one, to tell me where you want

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:43.920
<v Speaker 3>me to go from here.

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>So if you have several different things that you want

0:33:48.240 --> 0:33:51.000
<v Speaker 1>to If you haven't, let's start with you the thing

0:33:51.040 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 1>you wanted to talk about, and then we can get

0:33:52.520 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>into the other stuff. What was the thing that you want.

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 3>To right right now? Just got off of a little bitch,

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 3>not a bitch. I just started to night and I

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:03.880
<v Speaker 3>went nuts because I'm hearing shit you so me and

0:34:03.920 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, and I'm doing the whole little looking out

0:34:06.320 --> 0:34:09.360
<v Speaker 3>the window and hearing ship in the bathroom, and I

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:11.680
<v Speaker 3>fucking ripped off the top of the bathroom and I

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 3>started like putting the light and the shadows like I'm like,

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going crazy, Like the shadows is black. I'm

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 3>pointing the light, while the fuck is the light not

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:24.520
<v Speaker 3>going through the light something's blocking it. And then I

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 3>point the light back on it. I can see through it.

0:34:27.280 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 3>How the fuck is that even possible? Explain that to me?

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:33.000
<v Speaker 4>What?

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay? All right? Wait, So so you're you're ripping the

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 1>tile off the bathroom.

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:41.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're like it's fantis And like I'm looking through

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 3>the people to see if somebody is trying to look

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:45.640
<v Speaker 3>at me, you feel me and I turn on the

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 3>light and I can't see nothing. It's just dark.

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:53.480
<v Speaker 1>So you're you're you're, you're paranoid that somebody might be

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:56.239
<v Speaker 1>might be watching somebody. That's what That's what you texted me.

0:34:56.280 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 1>You texted me saying I have somebody sleeping and spying

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 1>on me through the bathroom.

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:05.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so this this happens every time, you know. I'm like,

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 3>how the fuck? And like some Brando mouth calls got

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 3>me called me today and I feel like he tapped

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 3>into my phone somehow. I don't even know, because he

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:18.320
<v Speaker 3>knows I caught him this time, he told me, and

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:20.319
<v Speaker 3>I have it on camera. I have it on camera

0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 3>this time, Like, okay, I don't even Yeah, I got

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:27.239
<v Speaker 3>a slow down for me for a second game.

0:35:30.200 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 1>Why do you think that somebody is spying on you?

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:38.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, because I'd be paranoid. People are trying

0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.359
<v Speaker 3>to fuck with my life and destroy my life and ship,

0:35:40.600 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 3>and I be doing things I'm not supposed to be doing,

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:44.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, so I get paranoid.

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 1>All right, let me ask you this, uh, this guy

0:35:48.239 --> 0:35:50.719
<v Speaker 1>that you're going to my show with, this therapist, if you.

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:52.879
<v Speaker 3>Talk to him, he does not know nothing about this?

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:55.719
<v Speaker 1>Wait? Did Wait? You haven't told him about this? This

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 1>sounds sounds like something you should talk to your therapist? Wait?

0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Why for me again? So that from again? Why do

0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:05.399
<v Speaker 1>you not want to talk? Why do you not want

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 1>to talk to your therapist? Why do you not want

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 1>to talk to your therapist about.

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:13.880
<v Speaker 3>My children are gone? I don't think he'll do it,

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:17.680
<v Speaker 3>but you'll probably help me try to, like, you know,

0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:20.440
<v Speaker 3>give me good advice. But still I'm too scared. I

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:21.200
<v Speaker 3>can't run the risk.

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Why would he call CPS on you?

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:26.799
<v Speaker 3>Are you allowed to do drugs in one of your kids?

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't think so?

0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Hold on this is is this a drug thing? Or

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:30.800
<v Speaker 1>are you just paranoid?

0:36:32.160 --> 0:36:34.959
<v Speaker 3>No? I'm I just going on my drugs. I hear things.

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:40.879
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, are you? Are you by the way, you

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:41.960
<v Speaker 1>just so you know?

0:36:42.120 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 3>You only if you don't want to just pop too

0:36:44.320 --> 0:36:46.200
<v Speaker 3>right now? So I'm chilling, Okay, all right?

0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:47.560
<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna say, you don't have to tell

0:36:47.600 --> 0:36:49.279
<v Speaker 1>me anything you don't want to tell me, But I like,

0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 1>if you want to talk about this weekend? Are you

0:36:53.200 --> 0:36:55.879
<v Speaker 1>all right? What drug are you taking that makes you

0:36:56.000 --> 0:36:57.520
<v Speaker 1>think that you're like ship?

0:36:59.640 --> 0:37:01.760
<v Speaker 3>I don't really want to talk about what drugs I'm taking.

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:11.600
<v Speaker 3>It's embarrassing, okay, but they're real hard. Okay. Yeah, I'm

0:37:11.640 --> 0:37:12.880
<v Speaker 3>going through a lot right now. I'm going through a

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:15.239
<v Speaker 3>core process right now. I have a stepson that I've

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:19.399
<v Speaker 3>had since one years old. He's six right now, where

0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:22.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm taking him to school, He's at A's and B's, Like,

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:25.520
<v Speaker 3>I take him to school every single day, Like I'm

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:27.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm a functional addict. Youee me? I do it on

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:30.160
<v Speaker 3>the weekends. I don't do it every day. You know

0:37:30.200 --> 0:37:35.000
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. I'm gucco, I'm good. Hm, But people

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:38.279
<v Speaker 3>take it the wrong way. You feel me like like,

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:40.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I just live my life, bro. So

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm happy. I'm happy, you know, and that's all that matters.

0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Okay, huh right, So wait, I don't do it every weekend.

0:37:49.640 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't do it every week If you give me

0:37:51.000 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 3>the yeah, you know what I mean?

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:56.239
<v Speaker 1>So, so, Gabe, do you I mean tell me this?

0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:56.799
<v Speaker 1>Do you.

0:37:58.400 --> 0:37:58.480
<v Speaker 4>Like?

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:03.319
<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna play a little armchair therapist here right now?

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:07.080
<v Speaker 1>Do you Okay, when you take a bunch of drugs

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 1>and you don't have to tell me what the drug is,

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:10.719
<v Speaker 1>but when you take a bunch of drugs and it

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 1>makes you paranoid, and it makes you think that people

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:14.719
<v Speaker 1>are like it.

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:16.000
<v Speaker 3>I like it. I like it.

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:20.319
<v Speaker 1>I like it, okay, because I was gonna ask, wait, Gabe,

0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:21.960
<v Speaker 1>gavee Gabe, let me, let me, let me finish my

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:27.240
<v Speaker 1>questions for a second. Does it make your life worse

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:27.840
<v Speaker 1>or better?

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:32.160
<v Speaker 3>It makes it worse, like when I'm well. It makes

0:38:32.200 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 3>it worse when I'm coming off of it. But it's

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 3>only for a little bit. I already learned how to

0:38:35.480 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 3>get through it. People like go crazy because they want

0:38:38.440 --> 0:38:39.440
<v Speaker 3>to keep doing. They want to keep doing it and

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:41.279
<v Speaker 3>want to keep doing. But I'm gonna go nuts like that,

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:44.080
<v Speaker 3>and I know that I'm not dumb, so I'm just,

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, stop and get the little crazyiness out of

0:38:47.520 --> 0:38:49.720
<v Speaker 3>me for a little bit. You know, it's a little routine.

0:38:49.760 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 3>You know, you gotta know how to fuck with it.

0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Do you have any do you have any desire within

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>you to to to quit?

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:03.600
<v Speaker 3>Yes? I do, okay, especially I'm about to have another baby,

0:39:04.040 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 3>and I really like every time I come off of it,

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:11.440
<v Speaker 3>my son wakes up with a AI and I'm like,

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:14.320
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's the sweetest thing ever. And I can't

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:16.680
<v Speaker 3>look at him in the morning when I'm coming off

0:39:16.680 --> 0:39:18.040
<v Speaker 3>of it, and I feel a little embarrassed. You know,

0:39:18.680 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, damn dough like it's a little hurtful. But

0:39:24.160 --> 0:39:25.880
<v Speaker 3>if you know, I really don't want to do that.

0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 1>No more can I can? I can I offer an

0:39:29.680 --> 0:39:30.400
<v Speaker 1>opinion to you?

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:33.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what's up? Of course? Do you think I'm talking

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:34.319
<v Speaker 3>to you?

0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Okay? Because I was. Here's what I want to Here's

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 1>what I want to say to you, and I hope

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:40.919
<v Speaker 1>it resonates. Is that, Okay, I understand that you are

0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:45.120
<v Speaker 1>You're afraid that if you go to like seek help

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:50.560
<v Speaker 1>for this stuff, that like you're gonna get punished for it,

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 1>and like they're gonna like take already.

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:58.719
<v Speaker 3>Rehab and uh, it's an everyday battle the honey person

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:01.480
<v Speaker 3>that's gonna help don't Prince's gonna help me with myself? Man?

0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Sure, But I guess what I'm stuck on is like,

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 1>you have a you have this therapist, but yet you

0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:13.400
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to talk to them about this issue.

0:40:13.440 --> 0:40:15.600
<v Speaker 1>And this sounds like something that if you're going to

0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:17.399
<v Speaker 1>be seeing a therapist, that you might want to talk

0:40:17.440 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 1>to them about. And I guess I'm stuck on, like, yeah, totally,

0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:23.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm stuck on. I'm stuck on why you're why

0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:25.880
<v Speaker 1>you don't want to because I don't. I mean, I

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:27.799
<v Speaker 1>don't fucking know. I don't think that they're gonna like,

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:31.399
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they would take away your I mean,

0:40:31.440 --> 0:40:33.759
<v Speaker 1>I fucking don't. I don't know. I'm a dude in

0:40:33.840 --> 0:40:40.160
<v Speaker 1>a lizard, but I I I think. Okay, here's what

0:40:40.160 --> 0:40:42.440
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say. Here's what's gonna tell you is

0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:47.280
<v Speaker 1>that if your desire is to be the best dad

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 1>that you can be for your kid, you got you.

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:54.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not. I'm not putting that into into

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:56.800
<v Speaker 1>in the trial. I'm not. I'm not questioning whether or

0:40:56.800 --> 0:40:57.520
<v Speaker 1>not you're a great dad.

0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:01.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna show you my pictures, my kids.

0:41:02.480 --> 0:41:05.240
<v Speaker 1>I just just but, Gabe, I'm just saying I think

0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you should be afraid of trying to

0:41:08.080 --> 0:41:13.840
<v Speaker 1>get help for this stuff. Yeah, you seem like a

0:41:13.960 --> 0:41:18.840
<v Speaker 1>very sweet, nice guy who cares about his kids and

0:41:18.960 --> 0:41:21.760
<v Speaker 1>his wife. Can I can I talk to your wife?

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:28.520
<v Speaker 3>Babe? You want to talk to you? Yeah?

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Wait, did you know about all this? I don't want

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:31.880
<v Speaker 1>to put you on the spot because I was going

0:41:31.920 --> 0:41:32.560
<v Speaker 1>to talk about him.

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 5>I didn't know about all this, okay, so it seemed

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 5>like a lot more hardcore than what he actually does.

0:41:40.320 --> 0:41:43.640
<v Speaker 4>He doesn't do it around the kids ever. He's not

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:45.080
<v Speaker 4>on it.

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:49.360
<v Speaker 5>When he's like doing anything with the kids, Like this

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:53.759
<v Speaker 5>is like something that he does once every maybe two

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:59.399
<v Speaker 5>months or something, and then like it's the kids are

0:41:59.480 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 5>in bed.

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:06.320
<v Speaker 3>Okay, hold on, hold on le forever, give me one record.

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:09.400
<v Speaker 3>You're you? Really? I watch you every day I go

0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 3>to sleep to you.

0:42:10.719 --> 0:42:12.759
<v Speaker 1>Wait, let me can I can I talk? Can I

0:42:12.760 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 1>talk back to your what's your name by the way, Oh,

0:42:17.680 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 1>you can give me a fake name. I'm gonna call

0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:25.920
<v Speaker 1>you Veronica. Veronica, Yeah, Veronica, Well Veronica, I guess. I mean,

0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:30.000
<v Speaker 1>what do you think about all this? You seem like, uh,

0:42:30.040 --> 0:42:32.719
<v Speaker 1>like as I don't know, man, Gabe's heart seems to

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:35.680
<v Speaker 1>be in the right place, and you know, you see

0:42:35.840 --> 0:42:39.920
<v Speaker 1>you're you're you're his uh you're his greatest ally in

0:42:39.960 --> 0:42:42.440
<v Speaker 1>his life. So I'm curious what you think about all this?

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:47.600
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, I mean, do I want him to stop doing

0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:50.520
<v Speaker 4>you know, the things that he does?

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:51.160
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

0:42:51.719 --> 0:42:54.560
<v Speaker 4>Obviously, I mean maybe not obviously because I could be

0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:57.760
<v Speaker 4>you know, a person that instigates him. But I'm definitely

0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:04.440
<v Speaker 4>not a person that instigates him. But the fact that

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:06.680
<v Speaker 4>he doesn't do it as often as he made it

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:09.920
<v Speaker 4>seem like he does it is what like kind of

0:43:09.960 --> 0:43:13.520
<v Speaker 4>gets me because he just he made himself sound so bad.

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:17.480
<v Speaker 4>He is not that bad, like I said, he doesn't

0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:22.400
<v Speaker 4>maybe once, you know, like in a blue moon type

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:25.960
<v Speaker 4>of thing. And and and again. The kids are never

0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:33.239
<v Speaker 4>around these situations. They're like asleep in bed away from.

0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:35.600
<v Speaker 3>Hold on. I'm sorry.

0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:37.640
<v Speaker 4>He has epilepsy, and he forgets a lot of things.

0:43:37.640 --> 0:43:39.839
<v Speaker 4>So he wants to say one more thing to you. Okay, okay,

0:43:39.960 --> 0:43:40.839
<v Speaker 4>can you give me one second?

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Sure.

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:44.719
<v Speaker 3>Another reason why like I want to quit too is

0:43:44.760 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 3>like she says, I wait like a month or two,

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:51.120
<v Speaker 3>Like no, it's like a month a most because it's

0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:54.439
<v Speaker 3>not it's not a go crazy. And while I while

0:43:54.440 --> 0:43:58.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm waiting for that month, I'm like constantly thinking about it,

0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 3>like I have dreams about it, like it's crazy. It's

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:06.680
<v Speaker 3>in my dreams, like it's terrible, Like I really want

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:10.000
<v Speaker 3>to stop, like got me fucked up in my dreams

0:44:10.040 --> 0:44:10.520
<v Speaker 3>and everything.

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:21.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, oh hey, what's up? I mean, fuck? Fuck fuck

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:24.840
<v Speaker 1>fuck here? Well I mean just from talking to Gabe,

0:44:24.960 --> 0:44:29.319
<v Speaker 1>like again, seems like a good hearted man, but he's

0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 1>all over He's all over the place, man.

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:33.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he.

0:44:33.200 --> 0:44:36.120
<v Speaker 4>Definitely is, which is like one of the reasons why

0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:39.319
<v Speaker 4>he's you know, he's in therapy and things, and and

0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:42.319
<v Speaker 4>I definitely pushed him towards going to therapy so he

0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:46.279
<v Speaker 4>can get help. He's had a lot of trauma in

0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:50.400
<v Speaker 4>his life and that you know, I won't share because

0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:54.480
<v Speaker 4>it's not my story to tell, but I know that

0:44:54.520 --> 0:44:57.440
<v Speaker 4>it affects him and it and it, you know, uh

0:44:58.280 --> 0:45:04.319
<v Speaker 4>makes him make the decisions I he makes. And one

0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:08.120
<v Speaker 4>of the main reason is because he says like I like,

0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:10.360
<v Speaker 4>he doesn't want to be as calls and all these things,

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:12.440
<v Speaker 4>Oh my, do you want.

0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:12.760
<v Speaker 3>Me to finish?

0:45:14.160 --> 0:45:17.799
<v Speaker 1>Hold? Let me okay, let me hold, let me finish,

0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:19.080
<v Speaker 1>let me finish finished.

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:19.440
<v Speaker 4>Wait.

0:45:19.440 --> 0:45:21.839
<v Speaker 3>Wait, because she's not giving me the right information. It's

0:45:21.880 --> 0:45:26.560
<v Speaker 3>not trauma. I'm a fucking pervert and I'm addicted to

0:45:26.719 --> 0:45:35.200
<v Speaker 3>fucking like feeling like you know, Okay, it's not no trauma.

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<v Speaker 4>It's I think that's why I say it's not my story.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not because I'm not in his brain. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know you know, like, Okay, that's why I got a

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<v Speaker 4>trauma because I don't know like why you you know,

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 4>these are the decisions that he makes, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well okay, well you know, let's let's talk about this.

0:45:53.120 --> 0:45:56.480
<v Speaker 1>How long have you guys been together for we've been together.

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<v Speaker 4>It'll be five years this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, great? And hold on? And when did when did

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<v Speaker 1>you have?

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<v Speaker 3>You?

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<v Speaker 1>You said you had your When do you give your

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<v Speaker 1>first kid?

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<v Speaker 4>I had my first kid a year before meeting him. Okay,

0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:21.320
<v Speaker 4>with someone else, yeah, with someone else, with another person.

0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:26.799
<v Speaker 4>I left him and I got kicked out of like

0:46:26.960 --> 0:46:32.440
<v Speaker 4>my living situation and ended up with my husband. Like

0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:34.359
<v Speaker 4>I said, I was going to spend the weekend at

0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 4>his house and I just never left and we got married,

0:46:39.200 --> 0:46:45.400
<v Speaker 4>and you know, we had our first child together. He's little.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you mean where wet?

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<v Speaker 3>We met on Facebook?

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<v Speaker 1>You guys?

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<v Speaker 4>We we met on Facebook, but like it was through

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<v Speaker 4>like a literal one one mutual friend that we had

0:47:00.719 --> 0:47:04.080
<v Speaker 4>and not a friend that either of us talked to.

0:47:04.360 --> 0:47:07.400
<v Speaker 4>Was just like a mutual you know, Facebook friends. And

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:11.000
<v Speaker 4>that's how our Facebook ended up, I guess, you know,

0:47:12.960 --> 0:47:19.319
<v Speaker 4>being being connected, but that's how we met. And like

0:47:19.440 --> 0:47:24.080
<v Speaker 4>we I guess we I don't know. I spilled all

0:47:24.120 --> 0:47:28.360
<v Speaker 4>my beans to him, all my you know, crap and

0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:31.839
<v Speaker 4>my own trauma. And he was like, come just I'll

0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:36.479
<v Speaker 4>save you all. I'll be I'll be what you need

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:39.319
<v Speaker 4>me to be. And he has been. Absolutely He's been

0:47:39.360 --> 0:47:43.400
<v Speaker 4>a super huge support system in my life. He's pushed

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:45.799
<v Speaker 4>me to be a better person. I mean, I came

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<v Speaker 4>from being like this very heavy alcoholic to like, I

0:47:51.440 --> 0:47:54.160
<v Speaker 4>don't I mean obviously right now, I don't drink. I'm pregnant,

0:47:54.200 --> 0:47:57.000
<v Speaker 4>but you know, I can handle my one glass of

0:47:57.040 --> 0:47:58.600
<v Speaker 4>wine and I can put it, you know, put the

0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:04.920
<v Speaker 4>bottle away into that, you know. And and he's helped me,

0:48:05.840 --> 0:48:10.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, raise my my oldest too. And and and

0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:15.839
<v Speaker 4>to be honest, he's the most like doting dad I've

0:48:15.960 --> 0:48:21.279
<v Speaker 4>ever met, like and seen, if that makes sense, like

0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:22.200
<v Speaker 4>at least in my.

0:48:22.080 --> 0:48:22.840
<v Speaker 3>Life, the.

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<v Speaker 4>Most doting and amazing dad, Like he loves his kids,

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<v Speaker 4>like I don't think.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>We have I don't know what he's saying.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, I'm going to repeat it. My situation right now

0:48:42.360 --> 0:48:48.640
<v Speaker 4>is that I'm in a process, like it's just's right here, man, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't he I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>I was sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't like talking about these things, and like you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't have you don't have to. I mean, look, man,

0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:03.640
<v Speaker 1>we're on a you know, you don't have to talk

0:49:03.680 --> 0:49:05.120
<v Speaker 1>about any anything you don't want to.

0:49:06.280 --> 0:49:07.520
<v Speaker 2>No, we actually do.

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<v Speaker 4>These are this is like one of the things that

0:49:10.160 --> 0:49:15.200
<v Speaker 4>we've been dying to talk to you about. But like

0:49:15.320 --> 0:49:18.439
<v Speaker 4>with my oldest I'm in a core process right now.

0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:26.320
<v Speaker 4>His like bio Dad has been involved from the beginning,

0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:32.000
<v Speaker 4>has not stopped being involved. But he never like it

0:49:32.080 --> 0:49:34.520
<v Speaker 4>was like he you know, saw him on a weekend basis,

0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:38.920
<v Speaker 4>and then randomly one day he showed up like with

0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:42.759
<v Speaker 4>his girl to my place to drop off my kid

0:49:43.120 --> 0:49:49.560
<v Speaker 4>and was like, oh, like you're abusing the kid and

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<v Speaker 4>I want him one hundred percent.

0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:51.680
<v Speaker 3>And like.

0:49:53.600 --> 0:49:56.800
<v Speaker 4>Bio Dad and I had always had like really great

0:49:57.400 --> 0:50:01.000
<v Speaker 4>communication and like this is like all you know, there's

0:50:01.040 --> 0:50:03.279
<v Speaker 4>all like text messages, like we were we didn't really

0:50:03.320 --> 0:50:06.000
<v Speaker 4>call each other, and and it got to the point

0:50:06.239 --> 0:50:08.840
<v Speaker 4>where like when it came to like drop off, we

0:50:08.880 --> 0:50:11.400
<v Speaker 4>would spend like an hour between me and my husband

0:50:11.440 --> 0:50:15.840
<v Speaker 4>and himself just talking about whatever type of thing. Like

0:50:15.880 --> 0:50:17.800
<v Speaker 4>I just to show you that we had a really

0:50:18.920 --> 0:50:22.120
<v Speaker 4>we had a really good bond up until that point,

0:50:22.960 --> 0:50:27.120
<v Speaker 4>and then all of a sudden he comes out saying.

0:50:26.880 --> 0:50:29.239
<v Speaker 3>That, like, oh, I'm abusing the kid.

0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:32.319
<v Speaker 4>He didn't take me to core, and that was the

0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:34.800
<v Speaker 4>main reason why we started therapy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that was the.

0:50:36.360 --> 0:50:39.120
<v Speaker 4>Main reason why my husband had up started therapy because

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<v Speaker 4>well I restarted therapy because I've been in therapy on

0:50:42.280 --> 0:50:47.480
<v Speaker 4>and off. So that's his main concerns with like, you know,

0:50:48.000 --> 0:50:54.400
<v Speaker 4>talking to the therapist about specific areas of his you know,

0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:59.799
<v Speaker 4>like his you know, we're in this process of the

0:51:00.120 --> 0:51:02.640
<v Speaker 4>guy trying to take my kid away from me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, the bio dad is like being fucking weird.

0:51:08.000 --> 0:51:13.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, bio dad is like super weird. Like

0:51:13.120 --> 0:51:15.759
<v Speaker 4>like we like my husband said, he takes the kids

0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:17.799
<v Speaker 4>to school, he picks him up from school. If you

0:51:17.840 --> 0:51:19.840
<v Speaker 4>see the amount of homework that we do, like I

0:51:19.920 --> 0:51:25.120
<v Speaker 4>basically I basically like he does school work and homework,

0:51:25.560 --> 0:51:31.200
<v Speaker 4>and then I basically homeschool him afterwards. Like we do

0:51:31.280 --> 0:51:35.040
<v Speaker 4>a lot of like educational things in my household.

0:51:36.520 --> 0:51:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Let's listen, Veronica, let me I think, Okay, I think look, man,

0:51:46.320 --> 0:51:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm uh i uh, I think this situation might have

0:51:57.120 --> 0:51:59.759
<v Speaker 1>gone a little bit over my my pay grade here,

0:51:59.840 --> 0:52:02.120
<v Speaker 1>but I do want to say, but I do want

0:52:02.120 --> 0:52:04.399
<v Speaker 1>to say just from my own opinion, because you guys

0:52:04.440 --> 0:52:08.600
<v Speaker 1>are uh, you know. I I appreciate that you guys

0:52:08.640 --> 0:52:11.600
<v Speaker 1>have been, you know, willing to talk about all of

0:52:11.640 --> 0:52:13.720
<v Speaker 1>this stuff. I just want to say, from my own opinion,

0:52:13.840 --> 0:52:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I believe from talking to both of you that both

0:52:18.600 --> 0:52:22.320
<v Speaker 1>of you have a a a strong desire to be

0:52:22.520 --> 0:52:26.279
<v Speaker 1>good parents and and be good good people. I believe that,

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:29.480
<v Speaker 1>like sincerely, from from both of you guys, and I

0:52:29.560 --> 0:52:34.920
<v Speaker 1>just want to say that I hope that you know

0:52:36.239 --> 0:52:39.080
<v Speaker 1>you're both able to get the help that you need.

0:52:39.520 --> 0:52:41.919
<v Speaker 1>I don't I have no idea if it's a good

0:52:41.920 --> 0:52:47.319
<v Speaker 1>idea for for your husband to be hanging out at

0:52:47.360 --> 0:52:49.520
<v Speaker 1>the bar with this therapist. I have no fucking idea.

0:52:49.560 --> 0:52:51.480
<v Speaker 1>But he I hope both of you are able to

0:52:51.560 --> 0:52:54.719
<v Speaker 1>like okay, but I hope both of you are able

0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:56.799
<v Speaker 1>to like find the help that you need. And and

0:52:57.080 --> 0:53:01.200
<v Speaker 1>I would suggest you know, even and if you're afraid,

0:53:01.239 --> 0:53:03.680
<v Speaker 1>I would suggest talking to your therapist about all this

0:53:03.719 --> 0:53:05.680
<v Speaker 1>different stuff, because I believe if you guys do go

0:53:05.719 --> 0:53:08.680
<v Speaker 1>out and get help, that you'll be able to get

0:53:08.719 --> 0:53:12.200
<v Speaker 1>over these like issues that are are you know, in

0:53:12.280 --> 0:53:16.480
<v Speaker 1>the way of your your guys is happiness. But but

0:53:16.680 --> 0:53:18.600
<v Speaker 1>I I I I, God damn it, I believe in

0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:26.000
<v Speaker 1>both of your good intentions, you know. So I'll say

0:53:26.000 --> 0:53:27.480
<v Speaker 1>that that's that's the main thing I wanted to.

0:53:29.280 --> 0:53:29.719
<v Speaker 3>Talk to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I I I kind of, I will say, Gabe, I

0:53:33.480 --> 0:53:34.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of I kind of want to leave it at

0:53:34.760 --> 0:53:36.239
<v Speaker 1>that because I think I'm getting a little bit too

0:53:36.280 --> 0:53:39.440
<v Speaker 1>it over my head here. But is there is there

0:53:39.480 --> 0:53:42.480
<v Speaker 1>anything else that? And also I'll say, let me let me,

0:53:42.600 --> 0:53:46.080
<v Speaker 1>let me come say hi in Miami. Man. We can

0:53:46.120 --> 0:53:50.640
<v Speaker 1>we can, we can talk, Okay? Cool? Is there anything

0:53:50.680 --> 0:53:52.319
<v Speaker 1>else you want to say to the people of the

0:53:52.400 --> 0:53:53.440
<v Speaker 1>computer before.

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<v Speaker 4>Chat? It was good?

0:53:56.800 --> 0:54:00.640
<v Speaker 3>Uh? I hope you guys fuck with me. Hopefully my

0:54:00.719 --> 0:54:04.920
<v Speaker 3>dreams come true and I might start streaming. Not that

0:54:05.120 --> 0:54:08.600
<v Speaker 3>that's pretty much. It help everybody in the chat as

0:54:08.680 --> 0:54:11.399
<v Speaker 3>a bluss day and you know, and the dreams come

0:54:11.440 --> 0:54:14.080
<v Speaker 3>true and they can be happy with their lives.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Gabe, and thank you Veronic. I appreciate you guys,

0:54:16.800 --> 0:54:24.680
<v Speaker 1>and good luck to you Veronica. Yeah alright, man, I

0:54:24.680 --> 0:54:26.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know, man. Yeah, that was that that that did

0:54:26.960 --> 0:54:29.040
<v Speaker 1>get a little bit over my over my pay grade

0:54:29.200 --> 0:54:31.640
<v Speaker 1>for a second. But I met, I met everything. I

0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:36.880
<v Speaker 1>fucking met what every everything that I said. I believed

0:54:37.040 --> 0:54:41.000
<v Speaker 1>both of them. Uh that like they they love their

0:54:41.080 --> 0:54:46.799
<v Speaker 1>children and that they like are are good people with

0:54:46.880 --> 0:54:50.160
<v Speaker 1>good intentions. And I understand, I guess I understand where

0:54:50.200 --> 0:54:53.560
<v Speaker 1>this dude's like fear is coming from from, like talking

0:54:54.400 --> 0:54:59.279
<v Speaker 1>to a motherfucker about like all this stuff. But I mean,

0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:05.399
<v Speaker 1>got you gotta, you know you gotta. I'm sure I'll

0:55:05.440 --> 0:55:08.440
<v Speaker 1>see him in Miami. It'll be I'm so I'm so

0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:12.880
<v Speaker 1>curious if if he actually shows up with his therapist

0:55:13.480 --> 0:55:15.480
<v Speaker 1>and there's gonna be a moment where I'm just standing

0:55:15.520 --> 0:55:18.000
<v Speaker 1>with this dude and his therapist and being like, what's

0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:25.560
<v Speaker 1>going on? Man? But yeah, uh good, uh good, good

0:55:25.640 --> 0:55:28.640
<v Speaker 1>luck to both of those guys, and uh good luck

0:55:28.680 --> 0:55:30.759
<v Speaker 1>to the children, good luck to all the children of

0:55:30.800 --> 0:55:36.799
<v Speaker 1>the world. And uh, I think I think that's it

0:55:37.640 --> 0:55:39.320
<v Speaker 1>really goes on.

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<v Speaker 4>The line thinking phone calls every night.

0:55:42.160 --> 0:55:45.759
<v Speaker 1>Everything goes to his teaching you in the mid of

0:55:45.800 --> 0:55:46.400
<v Speaker 1>your life.

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<v Speaker 4>But he's not really an expert