WEBVTT - How Woolly Mammoths Worked

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<v Speaker 1>before you started. I want to say best of luck

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<v Speaker 1>who are at this moment in the delivery room blow

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<v Speaker 1>Laurel's water broke. They're expecting their firstborn child. Wow. So

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<v Speaker 1>by the time this releases, it will be like six

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<v Speaker 1>years old. Yeah, pretty much, because we we have a

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<v Speaker 1>six year Yeah, so good luck guys. It's great. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You should tell him that personally so they actually hear this.

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<v Speaker 1>I recorded it. That's enough. They'll give what they get

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<v Speaker 1>and be happy with it. Yeah. You you uh excited

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<v Speaker 1>about willy mammoths? I am you? Are you not? I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's I think they're wonderful, wily anything plus also

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<v Speaker 1>like a wooly mammoth. They were. They were sweet, good natured.

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<v Speaker 1>They could take a joke at their own expense, but

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't self deprecating. They just you know, had a

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<v Speaker 1>good sense of humor. Yeah, anything related to an elephant,

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<v Speaker 1>okay in my book, Yeah, I agreed. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>very big love for that animal. Well, it's a big animal,

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<v Speaker 1>deserves a lot of love, and they're just wonderful in

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<v Speaker 1>every way that they grieve over their dead. Oh God,

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<v Speaker 1>there's this one story about Domini. I believe it's the

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<v Speaker 1>name of the elephant that um. I think he or

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<v Speaker 1>she was a zoo and had like a best friend,

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<v Speaker 1>and the best friend died and this elephant could not

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<v Speaker 1>get over it, and she died of I think the

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<v Speaker 1>zoo keepers like, she died of a broken heart. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't take that she she grieved herself to death. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the story is even more tragic than that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing it justice, but just go go research

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<v Speaker 1>Domini the elephant d A m A N. I You're like, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of funny, right, he'll tickle your ribs. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I did it justice. Did it come

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<v Speaker 1>across as funny stupid elephant? Well, you know what's even

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<v Speaker 1>cuter than a wooly mammoth? Oh yeah, Well, what's cuter

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<v Speaker 1>than an elephant is an elephant with hair. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>a wily mammoth, okay, or a mastodon, as we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about a little bit. Those are different, totally different. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but they have hair. Not as much, yeah, but they

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<v Speaker 1>have hair. Yeah, but you wouldn't look at it and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, that's wooly. You just be like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of hairy, yeah, stubborly. But the only thing cuter

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<v Speaker 1>than a hairy elephant is a tiny hairry elephant. And

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<v Speaker 1>there was a place, well there still is a place

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<v Speaker 1>called Wrangel Island and they don't have them anymore. But

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<v Speaker 1>at one point, not too long ago, in the grand

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<v Speaker 1>scheme of you know, the history of everything, right, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the Wrangel Island mammoths roamed the earth. And they are

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<v Speaker 1>how tall are they? Like human height? Right at the shoulder?

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<v Speaker 1>They were four to six ft tall. Oh man, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a mini wooly mammoth, give me one. And

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<v Speaker 1>they were directly descended from the wooly mammoths they just

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<v Speaker 1>ended up on this island, and the island is pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Size is the size of Delaware from what I understand.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's small enough. But that's small enough, well for

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<v Speaker 1>an island, you know, but it's small enough that that

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<v Speaker 1>they became dwarf. They went under that. Um what's that

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<v Speaker 1>process called where a population lands on an island and

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<v Speaker 1>it immediately begins to diminish in size. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard of that island fever, something weird like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they wanted to ride the roller coasters on the way,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd have to be bigger. Maybe they were scared of

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<v Speaker 1>roller coasters, That's what I meant. They're like, we're getting

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<v Speaker 1>out of here and we're gonna shrink, so we couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>possibly go on a roller coaster. But they butchered that one.

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<v Speaker 1>They were around for you, butcher them like a Wrangel

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<v Speaker 1>Island wooly mammoth. So they were around, uh until about

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand years ago, something like thirty years ago. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they were the last of their kind. Were on

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<v Speaker 1>Wrangle Island in six b C. And dude, by that time,

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<v Speaker 1>the pyramids were already a thousand years old. Like people,

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<v Speaker 1>they shared territory with people, but most I shouldn't say most,

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of the wooly mammoths, especially the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>lived at the end of the Place of Steem place

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<v Speaker 1>to scene. That's a tough one to say that scene,

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<v Speaker 1>is it not. Yes, I think that's right, but I

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<v Speaker 1>always want to like take continents and switch them around

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<v Speaker 1>and shuffle it up. Well, you're an anarchist, yeah, especially

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<v Speaker 1>with words. Um, I even hate the word anarchists. You

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<v Speaker 1>call it anarchist. Yeah, yeah, but uh, I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>threw me off. Sorry, Yeah, man, what was I saying? Oh? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they did coexist with humans. Yeah, Like it's the one

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<v Speaker 1>thing the flint Stones were right about. When you see

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<v Speaker 1>a big willy mammoth in Fred flint Stone, that was

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<v Speaker 1>entirely possible that the dinosaurs, the Brnos source all that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff just fantasy. And if that wily mammoth on the

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<v Speaker 1>flint Stones was used to watch a car or some

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<v Speaker 1>other household chore, completely real, right. Yeah. They were very

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<v Speaker 1>helpful in addition to having a great sense of humor.

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<v Speaker 1>They would help you out around the house. That was

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite parts of The flint Stones. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember when I was a kid watching that and just

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<v Speaker 1>being so tickled every time a bird's beak was used

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<v Speaker 1>to play a record, and they were always just like

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<v Speaker 1>so willingly, like just tilt me down and I'll play

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<v Speaker 1>your record. Yeah, I love that stuff. And then every

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<v Speaker 1>once in a a while but they would thank the animal

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<v Speaker 1>and the animal be like oh man, most of the days.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Wrangel Island mammoths for around until about years ago, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and they survived the extinction of the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>mammoths about four thousand years earlier. Right, Yeah, And if

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking, like if you look at the dinosaurs, they

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<v Speaker 1>left us sixty five million years ago, So this is

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<v Speaker 1>all very recent stuff. Like people hunted wooly mammoths and

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<v Speaker 1>ate them and use their bones and tusks and wore

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<v Speaker 1>their skin, I imagine, and uh not worshiped well we

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<v Speaker 1>don't really know for sure, but at least revered them

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<v Speaker 1>enough to put them in their cave art. Uh. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is all kind of really cool stuff to me.

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<v Speaker 1>We know a lot about them compared to a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of other extinct species, right, but where they went remains

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<v Speaker 1>a mystery a bit. Yeah, I mean it's definitely not definitive,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot of theories. But there's really they

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<v Speaker 1>melted remember that one? Yeah, what was that from? It

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<v Speaker 1>was from one of our earlier podcasts. That was my

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<v Speaker 1>personal theory on like where like the proto humans one

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<v Speaker 1>or something. I don't even know they melted. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot all about that. That's an old one. And not

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<v Speaker 1>only that, my friend, but um, we have they have

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<v Speaker 1>like relatives, distant cousins still roaming the earth today because

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<v Speaker 1>if you look at the African bush and the African

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<v Speaker 1>forest elephants and the Asian elephant actually the closest, it's

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<v Speaker 1>very close. Yeah not, I mean it's close and distant.

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<v Speaker 1>If that makes sense, It doesn't. How do you mean? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's close enough to say it's the closest relative.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're still distant cousins. You know, they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the hair or the high sloping back or the curly

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<v Speaker 1>tusk right or yeah with the finger like grippers. Yeah yeah, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're still pretty close close enough that some mad

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<v Speaker 1>scientists are like Wickham resurrect wooly Mammoth's using the Asian

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<v Speaker 1>elephant because we have DNA right like when they found

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<v Speaker 1>and they have found a lot of these carcasses. Some

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<v Speaker 1>some of them really intact. I mean enough, like there's

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<v Speaker 1>brain and bone and blood and uh yeah, basically the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing. It's just the slightly mummified so there's like

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<v Speaker 1>water loss. Other than that, it's all there. Like there's

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<v Speaker 1>one called um man this is tough word to say,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's another another continent Switchero. My brain wants to

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<v Speaker 1>pull liuba it means love in Russian. Was just a

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<v Speaker 1>little guy, yeah, the little baby. Yeah, this was not

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<v Speaker 1>a miniature. It was actually a calf right, It was

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<v Speaker 1>a baby baby wooly mammoth um. I think maybe like

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<v Speaker 1>a month old or something like that. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>still die. Yeah. And and then in lifness would have

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<v Speaker 1>weighed about um a hundred a hundred kilos or two

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<v Speaker 1>pounds now a hundred pounds fifty kilos. That's missing half

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<v Speaker 1>of its um weight and water while it was alive

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<v Speaker 1>when you'd want to pick it up and now now

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<v Speaker 1>you just kind of patted on the head and be

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<v Speaker 1>like you stay over there. Yeah. When was that found?

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<v Speaker 1>Two thousand seven? Yeah, and um it was found perfectly

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<v Speaker 1>preserved because apparently she had been colonized by a um

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<v Speaker 1>uh some sort of lactic acid producing bacteria that effectively

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<v Speaker 1>pickled her. So it preserved her, but it also made

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<v Speaker 1>her very unappetizing scavengers too. She tasted weird, right, So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a really good example of a wooly mammoth. And

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember how many tens of thousands of years

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<v Speaker 1>old she is, but she's pretty old. So we do

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<v Speaker 1>have this access to all these great specimens, and they've

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<v Speaker 1>figured out that about the shelf life of viable DNA

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<v Speaker 1>is a million years So there's plenty of wooly ammoths

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<v Speaker 1>that who's DNA we have access to that's much younger

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<v Speaker 1>than a million years old. And yeah, we'll talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But some people are like, let's bring them back, let's

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<v Speaker 1>de extinct them. Yeah, tricky territory. Oh yeah, but so

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<v Speaker 1>Willie mammoth pretty cute. It's not a sabretooth tiger, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not tricky. You just don't do that. But the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the long and the short of all this,

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<v Speaker 1>with the distant cousins and all of the uh preserved

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<v Speaker 1>carcasses we found is that we have a really robust

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<v Speaker 1>picture of how these things lived and what they were like.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, I guess we'll take a break here and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get a little bit into their you know, they're

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<v Speaker 1>nine to five. Job, we'll go back to the mammoth world.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. So if you picture in your mind a

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<v Speaker 1>wooly mammoth, you might think, all right, frozen waste land.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and like Siberia, Right, they just eat like snow Wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>snow cones. That's wrong. I'm sure they appreciated again, snow cone.

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<v Speaker 1>They like Italian nights more than the snow cone. They're

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<v Speaker 1>a little more European. But what was actually going on

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<v Speaker 1>is they were they were trotting upon land what was

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<v Speaker 1>called a mammoth step st e p pe mm hmm,

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<v Speaker 1>not the step variety. Sure there's an extra p. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like a steppy boy. It's not pronounced steppi is it? No? Okay, No,

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<v Speaker 1>when you first encountered the word, it is uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is this was basically it was sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>unique time in the in the history of planet Earth

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<v Speaker 1>in that it was rich. These areas were rich with

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<v Speaker 1>stuff for them to eat, just like overloaded with vegetation. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing, were veggie eaters. Yeah, they were, they were

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<v Speaker 1>um actually um grassland grazers. You can call them. So

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<v Speaker 1>they ate long um long grasses sedges, which is like

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<v Speaker 1>a fake grass, but all intends of purposes. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>come upon a basil field. Man, it was all over

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<v Speaker 1>like oh man, it's Italian night. So um, they ate

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<v Speaker 1>grasses and they were herbivores and they ate this pretty

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<v Speaker 1>specific diet and it certainly wasn't snow based and it

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<v Speaker 1>was definitely cooler, which is I think another reason why

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<v Speaker 1>people think, um they they they lived in a frozen wasteland. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>because they needed that coat, they did. And the reason

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<v Speaker 1>why is because they were living in the Pleistocene, which

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<v Speaker 1>was definitely it was a series of ice ages, right. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was colder. It's like five to ten degrease

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<v Speaker 1>celsius colder than it is globally now. But the the

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<v Speaker 1>whole ecosystem was just utterly different than what it is today.

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<v Speaker 1>So like if you did manage to bring back Willy

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<v Speaker 1>Mammoth and you put him on the Siberian step, they'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like, well, I'm going to starve. There's nothing here

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<v Speaker 1>for me to eat. Things have changed. If you put

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<v Speaker 1>them in Arizona or New Mexico or someplace where it

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<v Speaker 1>might kind of look the same with the shrubbery and

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<v Speaker 1>brush and grasses. Uh, they would say, no, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>live here either, kind of die here too. It's too hot.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you bring me back? Really didn't think this through,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. But what you also had, though, is a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty nice I mean, it was colder, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of nice weather for a wily mammoth.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the sea levels had dropped, so it exposed

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<v Speaker 1>all this great land for them to roam, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was very breezy and clear and kind of lovely, easy, freezy, beautiful, easy, breezy,

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful for wooly mammoth. Yeah. Because again, well we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about their coat. Actually, we can talk about it right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So their coat was, um, are you familiar with a

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<v Speaker 1>musk ox? Oh? Yeah, it was like that. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like a skirt of long hair. But beneath that was

0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:24.080
<v Speaker 1>wooly undercoat that really kept them warm. Yeah, the outer coat,

0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:26.160
<v Speaker 1>and we've talked about a lot of mammals, most of

0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:29.480
<v Speaker 1>them have like layers of different kinds of fur. But um,

0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:31.720
<v Speaker 1>the outer coat was the guard for and then under

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, was the the wooly undercoat. And below

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<v Speaker 1>that they had an inch of skin, very oily, and

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<v Speaker 1>below that they had three to four inches of fat

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<v Speaker 1>and all of this stuff made them nice and cozy

0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:50.560
<v Speaker 1>and warm. But they were de delicious to eat man

0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:58.000
<v Speaker 1>oily skin inches of fat. Yeah, I'm just gonna ignore that,

0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:01.640
<v Speaker 1>all right, Uh, twenty hours a day they spent eating,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, fattening themselves up for for me, for you.

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<v Speaker 1>So they would just roam around and eat man and

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<v Speaker 1>get along with each other. They were you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was about to say peaceful, which they kind of were

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<v Speaker 1>unless they were infringed upon. And you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>mess with the willie mammoth alone, right, No, they they

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<v Speaker 1>This article puts it that in a standing fight they

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<v Speaker 1>could take all commerce. They were definitely like they could

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<v Speaker 1>defend themselves. And for the most part, apparently the major

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<v Speaker 1>predators of the day um would not have taken a

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<v Speaker 1>healthy adult mammothon. They would have like maybe followed a

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<v Speaker 1>herd because the mammoth's um you were. If you saw

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<v Speaker 1>a single mammoth, it was a male, or if you

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<v Speaker 1>saw a herd of them, it was females and calves

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<v Speaker 1>female calves, yeah right, or it could be male calves

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<v Speaker 1>or nursing still before they went off on their own teenager.

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<v Speaker 1>They sent them off pretty young though, I think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>starting when they were teenagers. Um. And either way, no

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<v Speaker 1>short faced bear or sabretooth tiger is going to take

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<v Speaker 1>on one of these guys by themselves. It would be

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<v Speaker 1>like a calf that fell behind yeah, um, or like

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<v Speaker 1>uh one that was sick or dying or trapped in

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<v Speaker 1>like a tar pit. You would leap out with your

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<v Speaker 1>clob spear, my knife and fork and have dinner my

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<v Speaker 1>napkin tied around my neck. Uh. And they were they did,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, share their their area with these fearsome creatures

0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:40.480
<v Speaker 1>like the sabretooth tiger. And there was actually something called

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<v Speaker 1>a wooly rhinoceros, which is exactly what you think it is. Yeah,

0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll bet you would not want to mess with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd want to scratch him behind the ear. Oh, rhinocero.

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<v Speaker 1>I are tough and mean. I know. That's the problem

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<v Speaker 1>with me. As I see these things, and I think,

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<v Speaker 1>like a big tiger, I think all that guy needs

0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:01.000
<v Speaker 1>is he looks like my Yeah, you know you should

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<v Speaker 1>not go a little just to give him a good

0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:05.840
<v Speaker 1>scratch behind the ear. And they're like, oh, well, I

0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:07.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of like this guy, he's not up to get me.

0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:10.600
<v Speaker 1>That's not what they do, I know. But that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I don't take Safari's I'd be the dope that you

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<v Speaker 1>know tried to pet the cheetah. Oh my god, did

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<v Speaker 1>you see the video of the woman who got out

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<v Speaker 1>of her car in a tiger preserve and was like

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<v Speaker 1>the just like a it's like a like a security camera,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's a steady shot. And I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>the lady was doing out of the car. I think

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<v Speaker 1>maybe in China, and she's just standing there one second,

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden, the tiger comes in frame

0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.880
<v Speaker 1>and just pulls her right out of frame. And then

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<v Speaker 1>like her sister and husband get out of the car,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think her sister was killed as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>the husband like just runs back and dives into the car.

0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:54.760
<v Speaker 1>But what were they doing out of the car, And

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<v Speaker 1>like this huge tiger at least the size of the

0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:00.200
<v Speaker 1>woman just comes and just grabs her. Was nuts, well,

0:18:00.280 --> 0:18:02.520
<v Speaker 1>really disturbing. Yeah, I don't want to see that. Then

0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:06.080
<v Speaker 1>you probably shouldn't. You'd still be like I'd still pet

0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:10.320
<v Speaker 1>that tiger. No, I wouldn't pet that tiger. You put

0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:13.320
<v Speaker 1>that another one. What was the name of the grizzly Man,

0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Timothy tread Well or Treadway. I think tread well Man. Yeah,

0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:24.280
<v Speaker 1>that was a disturbing The best you should that was

0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:28.600
<v Speaker 1>the best part was a terrible You should narrate everything.

0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:34.440
<v Speaker 1>He should. He should do every commercial, voice over, every documentary,

0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:37.480
<v Speaker 1>just you name it. He should do this podcast. They

0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:40.359
<v Speaker 1>should go back and redo the voiceover the Alec Baldwin

0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:45.639
<v Speaker 1>did for the Royal. Tannon bombs Burner put a different

0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.880
<v Speaker 1>spin on things. I think Royal was born in the avenue.

0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:54.240
<v Speaker 1>Now that's a good herzog. It's not bad. All you

0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:55.639
<v Speaker 1>have to do is try and do it like an

0:18:55.640 --> 0:19:02.159
<v Speaker 1>evil mad german scientist or something. Colonel clink Colonel clink um,

0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:05.760
<v Speaker 1>where were we? We were talking about how um they

0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:09.200
<v Speaker 1>could defend themselves. You'd still want to pet him, and

0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:11.199
<v Speaker 1>they'd probably be okay with you petting them. They just

0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:17.119
<v Speaker 1>accidentally trample you. Yeah, exactly. Elephant. Uh, those little calves

0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:20.280
<v Speaker 1>were born in the springtime. Uh. And here's something that

0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:23.080
<v Speaker 1>will come into factor later when they were wiped from

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<v Speaker 1>the planet. They have a very long gestation period. It's

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two months, so you know they're not pumping out

0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:33.840
<v Speaker 1>these calves with great regularity. It takes a long time,

0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:37.080
<v Speaker 1>almost two years. Yeah, that's that's a while. So they

0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:41.840
<v Speaker 1>would have been impregnated I guess, uh summer, late summer

0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:45.359
<v Speaker 1>a year previous, and then born in the spring because

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<v Speaker 1>they adapted to do that because there was more to eat,

0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:53.960
<v Speaker 1>you know. Yeah, that makes sense. It's like, it's lovely.

0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:57.840
<v Speaker 1>There's stuff blooming everywhere. Look at that basil field and

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<v Speaker 1>so it We don't know exactly what they're society was like,

0:20:04.359 --> 0:20:08.320
<v Speaker 1>but just based on modern elephants, paleontologists have surmised that

0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:12.879
<v Speaker 1>they were very social. Most likely. There's mammoth track ways

0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:17.399
<v Speaker 1>that we've found fossilized footprints UM that show a number

0:20:17.480 --> 0:20:21.119
<v Speaker 1>of mammoths walking side by side and amongst one another

0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:27.240
<v Speaker 1>UM and they're clearly different size footprints. So there's different

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<v Speaker 1>generations all walking together, which would indicate that they probably

0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:34.399
<v Speaker 1>have similar societies to elephants. Right, the dead and stuff

0:20:34.400 --> 0:20:37.720
<v Speaker 1>like that. Yeah, defend their dead, grieve over them, man,

0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:42.639
<v Speaker 1>it's really tough. UM. And that they probably came together

0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:47.040
<v Speaker 1>in annual migrations, although the evidence for that is still lacking.

0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:50.159
<v Speaker 1>And if they did migrate, I think I saw somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>that they probably didn't go more than four miles. So

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<v Speaker 1>still that's I don't go more than four dred miles

0:20:55.840 --> 0:20:59.080
<v Speaker 1>when I walk. I don't either anymore, So hats off

0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:02.679
<v Speaker 1>to the manuths are walking that far. When they would

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<v Speaker 1>go into heat the female, Like many mammals and many animals,

0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:12.480
<v Speaker 1>there would be a competition of sorts among the men, uh, everywhere,

0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:15.840
<v Speaker 1>from you know, puffing their chest out and flaunting to

0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:19.560
<v Speaker 1>just straight up fighting with one another. I guess if

0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:21.840
<v Speaker 1>times were tough, there weren't a lot of ladies around.

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<v Speaker 1>And and that is a lot like the modern elephant

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Uh. And and that they had what's called

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<v Speaker 1>a must gland u s t not musk, which is

0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:40.439
<v Speaker 1>easy to say, must must. It's even when you've been

0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:42.480
<v Speaker 1>drinking a lot. I don't know that's exactly what it

0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:46.399
<v Speaker 1>sounds like. Or if you're Cindy Brady right, or if

0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:52.360
<v Speaker 1>you're missing a tooth right, Oh yeah, you're getting psyched.

0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:56.439
<v Speaker 1>I am getting psyched. And I'm also I was like,

0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:58.880
<v Speaker 1>can I just get it done before this, Like I'm

0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:01.639
<v Speaker 1>going to Paris for three it's for God's sakes. And

0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:03.159
<v Speaker 1>I was reading about Paris and they're like, if you

0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:05.760
<v Speaker 1>don't want to stand out, you know, Americans are kind

0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:08.800
<v Speaker 1>of if you want to blend in American French or preasons,

0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:12.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of chic, like you know, you should you know,

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<v Speaker 1>clean cut, and you know you shouldn't wear T shirts

0:22:15.240 --> 0:22:18.360
<v Speaker 1>and shorts and tenny shoes. And it's like, man, I'm

0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:22.040
<v Speaker 1>going to be the most American dude. They're you might

0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:24.120
<v Speaker 1>as well just go with it, where like there's nothing

0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:26.399
<v Speaker 1>chic about me. Yeah, just walk around your me and

0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:29.080
<v Speaker 1>these and an ill fitting T shirt and flip flops

0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:32.080
<v Speaker 1>is like born in the USA T shirt? Yeah exactly, yeah, yeah,

0:22:32.560 --> 0:22:35.119
<v Speaker 1>with an American eagle on your head. Yeah, and on

0:22:35.160 --> 0:22:40.680
<v Speaker 1>the back it says have you seen my tooth? They're

0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:47.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna love you. Yeah, we'll see. Well, we're also going

0:22:47.480 --> 0:22:50.840
<v Speaker 1>to the land of bad dentistry? So or is that

0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:52.800
<v Speaker 1>in the UK? They're gonna welcome us with me with

0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:55.719
<v Speaker 1>open arms. Oh yeah, they're gonna be like he's one

0:22:55.760 --> 0:22:58.200
<v Speaker 1>of us. Is that a thing still? I thought? No,

0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:00.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's gotten better, but it's still a joke

0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:03.119
<v Speaker 1>that we can make. Oh god, I think so, or

0:23:03.200 --> 0:23:06.040
<v Speaker 1>Mike Myers can We'll find out we have no idea,

0:23:06.080 --> 0:23:09.040
<v Speaker 1>how our humor is gonna go over there probably fall flat.

0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:13.600
<v Speaker 1>I we'll see um. All right, So there they have

0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:18.359
<v Speaker 1>the musk gland and that secretes a fluid which um.

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:22.000
<v Speaker 1>And I think that just sort of it says here

0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:25.199
<v Speaker 1>it establishes their higher they're mating hierarchy there. It's like

0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:29.680
<v Speaker 1>a pheromone gland. Yeah, so whoever has the musk not

0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:33.280
<v Speaker 1>must oh desecrete musk. I'm sure you could call it that,

0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:39.960
<v Speaker 1>or it secretes must Let's talk about their tusks, because

0:23:40.000 --> 0:23:46.119
<v Speaker 1>here's something I didn't know. The tusks actually have evolved

0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:49.639
<v Speaker 1>from their incisors. And then I mean it makes perfect sense.

0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:56.720
<v Speaker 1>It's like Lisa Simpson with that um where she didn't

0:23:56.760 --> 0:23:59.760
<v Speaker 1>have a dental plan, so like her tooth was gonna

0:23:59.800 --> 0:24:02.720
<v Speaker 1>grow up through her. Remember that they have like a

0:24:02.720 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 1>projection or something. Yeah remember that? Uh yeah, that's exactly

0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:11.159
<v Speaker 1>what it's like. Actually these outward Yeah, and they twist around.

0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:13.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, if you've seen pictures of mammoths before, if not,

0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:16.119
<v Speaker 1>look one up and it's not like a standard just

0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 1>curby elephant tusk. It's just beautiful the way it swoops around. Yeah,

0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:22.159
<v Speaker 1>and I believe like they could get up to like

0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:27.720
<v Speaker 1>sixteen ft long. It's enormous. That's a big tusk. Uh.

0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:30.119
<v Speaker 1>And we'll talk a little more about how they were used.

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:32.840
<v Speaker 1>But they here here to me is one of the

0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:36.280
<v Speaker 1>saddest things. They go through. Well, first of all, their

0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:39.679
<v Speaker 1>other teeth are foot long, their molars, which is remarkable.

0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:44.879
<v Speaker 1>And they go through six sets of teeth like the

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:48.800
<v Speaker 1>modern elephant, over a sixty year lifespan. And they die

0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:52.120
<v Speaker 1>after the last set of teeth is worn out. Yeah,

0:24:52.160 --> 0:24:55.120
<v Speaker 1>and that's just like the saddest thing ever. They their

0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:58.399
<v Speaker 1>last prune and kilo. Yeah, Like I guess they I

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:01.639
<v Speaker 1>mean to me because he human, I assume they sense

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:05.160
<v Speaker 1>this like this, this is it? Well that and then

0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:07.639
<v Speaker 1>they see me stalking on with my knife and fork

0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:10.879
<v Speaker 1>and napkin because I wouldn't kill a mammoth. I just

0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:13.320
<v Speaker 1>eat it after a diet of natural causes. Oh well,

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:16.920
<v Speaker 1>that's different. You just waited out until they had a

0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 1>loss of teeth. I'm like a jackal or a vulture.

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Would herb herban board taste better or worse than a

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:29.840
<v Speaker 1>beautiful Yeah? Yeah, grass fed? All right, Uh, chuck, let's

0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:31.560
<v Speaker 1>take a break and we'll come back, and we're gonna

0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 1>talk about where wooly mammoth's come from, came from past tense.

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:58.359
<v Speaker 1>All right, we're back. It's gonna have been a strong

0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:02.800
<v Speaker 1>my friend. So, you know, wooly mammoths resemble elephants. They

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 1>have a common ancestor. And what's that. There's a very

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:13.159
<v Speaker 1>primitive Elephantine animal type of animal called the probosidian. And

0:26:13.240 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>actually if you look at the wooly mammoth, the massed

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:21.320
<v Speaker 1>on some of those old ancient ones. Um their their

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:24.520
<v Speaker 1>order they belong to, So I think it goes species

0:26:24.640 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 1>genus order, no species genus family order. Yeah, the order

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:35.280
<v Speaker 1>they belong to is um probosidia. And it's like um,

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:41.200
<v Speaker 1>like a you know, a bug has a probiscus, same thing. Uh,

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:45.879
<v Speaker 1>that's basically Greek for nose. I believe it is. So

0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:48.840
<v Speaker 1>this the Greeks are just poking fun at their noses

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:54.680
<v Speaker 1>and they this uh split off from the million years ago.

0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:57.840
<v Speaker 1>It split off from the mamillion tree. It's a long

0:26:57.880 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 1>time ago, right, And all this is happening in a Frica.

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:08.000
<v Speaker 1>The elephant family, the probe probos probositians, they all were

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:10.440
<v Speaker 1>found in Africa. That's where they evolved and then they

0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:13.439
<v Speaker 1>eventually spread out of Africa up into the Sinai and

0:27:13.520 --> 0:27:16.040
<v Speaker 1>over into Europe and then up into Asia, just like

0:27:16.119 --> 0:27:20.840
<v Speaker 1>humans did. Um, and I think something like seven million

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 1>years ago the first mammoths developed in Africa. No, they

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:28.000
<v Speaker 1>weren't and we'll get to ye in a second. They

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:31.600
<v Speaker 1>were like they were mammoths, but they yeah, they weren't

0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:34.359
<v Speaker 1>Willie like you said. They hung around in Africa for

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:37.439
<v Speaker 1>about four million years, about three million years ago they

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:40.720
<v Speaker 1>started to spread, and then about one point seven one

0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:43.879
<v Speaker 1>point eight million years ago the Earth changed dramatically. It

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 1>entered the Pleistocene. And again the palist scene was characterized

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:51.800
<v Speaker 1>with huge dips in global temperature. It's been a hot

0:27:51.840 --> 0:27:54.320
<v Speaker 1>house up to that point, and all of a sudden

0:27:54.320 --> 0:27:56.919
<v Speaker 1>it's like getting cold, and there's like glacial periods and

0:27:56.920 --> 0:28:00.320
<v Speaker 1>all that. And now the mammoths are starting to adapt

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 1>to the cold. Now they became wooly and um kind

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:09.760
<v Speaker 1>of differentiated from southern mammoths, uh, and became wooly mammoth's. Yeah,

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 1>there was one in particular, the largest one of all,

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:17.240
<v Speaker 1>the step mammoth, and this sucker was fourteen feet and

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 1>that's always at the shoulder, right, yes, And that correct,

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:21.640
<v Speaker 1>what do I don't measure from the top of the head,

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 1>because you can like make yourself seem taller by lifting

0:28:26.640 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 1>your head up, and they would do that when you

0:28:30.080 --> 0:28:36.399
<v Speaker 1>mammoth's great sense of humor delicious really uncooperative at the doctor, right,

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 1>wanted to be taller. Uh. And this one they think

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:44.600
<v Speaker 1>originated in northeastern Eurasia, and uh was the ancestor most

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 1>likely of the wooly mammoth shaggy but not wooly. No,

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't wooly. And the wooly mammoth actually is the

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:55.719
<v Speaker 1>smallest of them all right, So not only did they

0:28:55.760 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>adapt to the cold with their wooly coat, right, they

0:28:59.200 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 1>actually had some really interesting adaptations with their blood and um.

0:29:04.720 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 1>One of the things they figured out that it was

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:11.560
<v Speaker 1>that the willing mammoth had this pretty cool system where

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>their arteries, which carried warm blood from the heart to

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 1>the extremities, were really close to their blood vessels, which

0:29:20.640 --> 0:29:24.120
<v Speaker 1>brought deoxygen aated cold blood from the extremities back to

0:29:24.160 --> 0:29:28.520
<v Speaker 1>the heart. Well. The fact that the arterial blood vessels

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 1>were close to the veins means that the warm blood

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 1>would actually warm the blood in the veins on the

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 1>way back to the heart, so that the heat never

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 1>really made it out of the core. It kept the

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 1>core very warm, which is important, um. And it meant

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 1>the extremities were very cold, which is much less important

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:52.479
<v Speaker 1>as long as you still have blood flow. And then

0:29:52.520 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 1>they also had this hemoglobin that could so hemoglobin clumps

0:29:57.280 --> 0:30:00.160
<v Speaker 1>onto oxygen and delivers it throughout the body. Right. Well,

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 1>it takes a little bit of heat energy to get

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 1>the hemoglobin to let go of the oxygen, but you

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 1>want as much heat energy as you can possibly have

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 1>if you're wooly mammoth on the steps, right. Um. So

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 1>they figured out get this by taking forty three thousand

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 1>year old wooly mammoth, the na, isolating the genes that

0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>expressed hemoglobin that led to the expression of hemoglobin, and

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 1>then it's inserting it into E. Coli bacteria and getting

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 1>the equal light to manufacture wooly mammoth hemoglobin and then

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:37.080
<v Speaker 1>analyzing that hemoglobin. And the researchers were saying, like, if

0:30:37.120 --> 0:30:39.880
<v Speaker 1>we had a live well, if we built a time

0:30:39.920 --> 0:30:42.600
<v Speaker 1>machine and went back in time forty three thousand years

0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:45.960
<v Speaker 1>and took blood hemoglobin from this wooly mammoth, it would

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 1>be this exact same substance we've brought back wooly mammoth hemoglobin,

0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:53.440
<v Speaker 1>and from studying they found out things like it required

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:57.760
<v Speaker 1>less heat energy to release oxygen, so thus conserving more heat. Well,

0:30:57.800 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 1>and they're not the only ones either, Weren't there a

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 1>lot or they speculate at least are a lot of

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 1>cold adapted animals that had that same feature. Pretty cool. Um, alright,

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 1>so the wool we're finally at the wooly smaller wooly mammoth, right, Yeah,

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>they're the smallest of all the mammoth. Yeah, four hundred

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 1>thousand years ago, and the first one of those was

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 1>actually found in eighteen or six in Siberia from a

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>botanist named mackayl Adams. And um, these dudes like they

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:31.360
<v Speaker 1>were widespread. They went as far as modern day Ireland

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:36.480
<v Speaker 1>and then across the Bearing Land Bridge or sorry, the

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:39.959
<v Speaker 1>Bearing straight was the bearing Land Bridge? Ye, the st

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 1>the water. Yeah, and then they roamed the east coast

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 1>of the United States and up into Canada and down

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:50.040
<v Speaker 1>into Mexico. They went even yeah, they went west in

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:55.800
<v Speaker 1>the United States and west pretty far west. Yeah, um, west,

0:31:55.920 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 1>and a little bit south because at the time some

0:31:58.440 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 1>of the glacial glacial is zation would come as far

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:06.200
<v Speaker 1>south as like covering Chicago entirely in a glacier. So

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 1>they were a little further south. And they loved the

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Great Plains because the Great Plains were still the Great

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Plains back then. And yeah, they would eat the grasses.

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 1>But they also coexisted or shared the North American continent

0:32:19.280 --> 0:32:22.600
<v Speaker 1>with another type of wooly mammoth that was indigenous to

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 1>North America, the Colombian or Jefferson mammoth. Yeah, that's the

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 1>one that actually spent time in Mexico and Nicaragua, I

0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 1>think as far south as Nicaraguay, Yeah, which is yeah,

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:36.120
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty amazing. Of course, the weather was different back then, yeah,

0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:38.320
<v Speaker 1>like we said, but still, I mean they were closer

0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:40.440
<v Speaker 1>to the equator and it was definitely warmer. So they

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:43.760
<v Speaker 1>were a different species of wooly mammoth or of mammoth,

0:32:44.200 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 1>but they were pretty closely related and I think they

0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:51.000
<v Speaker 1>were actually um descended from the step mammoth as well. Yeah,

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 1>and they were you know, they were they didn't need

0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 1>the weather just to be one thing. They were pretty adaptable. Um,

0:32:57.520 --> 0:33:00.640
<v Speaker 1>not completely, as we'll see, because climate change probably did

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 1>factor in h although not specifically because of like the temperature. Um, well,

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 1>we might as well talk a little bit about that. Huh.

0:33:09.280 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Are we there yet with the temperature? Well know, like

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:15.360
<v Speaker 1>maybe where they went. Oh well, it's a big mystery.

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Like I was saying, no one knows case close. Well,

0:33:19.200 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 1>they have some ideas, uh, and one of them is

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 1>climate change. But um, like I was hinting at, not

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:29.600
<v Speaker 1>necessarily like the temperature was something that affected them. It

0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>was more how the temperature affected their habitat. Shrinking their

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>habitat is what, ultimately I think had a lot to

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:40.360
<v Speaker 1>do with it. I think so too. There's well, there's

0:33:40.440 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 1>so there are a number of theories. One was like

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 1>a meteorite that never found any evidence for that. Um uh,

0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:51.560
<v Speaker 1>maybe like a superbug got them doubtful. Yeah, And so

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 1>it came down to humans over hunting them, which is

0:33:56.080 --> 0:34:00.120
<v Speaker 1>called the overkill hypothesis, and then climate change hypothesis this

0:34:00.600 --> 0:34:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and I think of those two, if I had to choose,

0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:04.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. I think the climate change is what

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 1>got them. I think it's a little bit of both.

0:34:07.760 --> 0:34:10.360
<v Speaker 1>I think ultimately it is too. But I think humans

0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:15.239
<v Speaker 1>finished off something that was a process that was already inevitable. Yeah,

0:34:15.280 --> 0:34:18.319
<v Speaker 1>like here, here's what happens. Here's a bad thing. If

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 1>you're a mammal or any animal. It's a bad, bad

0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:27.640
<v Speaker 1>mammoth day. If you're if you're ecosystem is shrinking and

0:34:27.640 --> 0:34:31.160
<v Speaker 1>your available food sources shrinking, and you continue to move

0:34:31.480 --> 0:34:36.400
<v Speaker 1>where that is, you become isolated and your area is

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:39.800
<v Speaker 1>smaller and smaller, and that eventually is super bad news.

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 1>What you want if you're a wide ranging mammal like

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:44.400
<v Speaker 1>that is especially a big one that needs like four

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:46.759
<v Speaker 1>pounds of food today. Yeah, you want to be able

0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:49.080
<v Speaker 1>to travel a long way to get as much food

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 1>as you can because you're eating twentys a day. But

0:34:52.360 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 1>if your habitat is shrinking, Uh, yeah, that's what I meant. Habitat,

0:34:56.360 --> 0:35:01.040
<v Speaker 1>not ecosystem. That works. Yeah, it definitely works. Um. So

0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:04.399
<v Speaker 1>the climate climate change melted those glaciers, sea levels rose,

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:08.799
<v Speaker 1>and then the land shrank, came cover with water yea,

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 1>and the wooly mamples like looking so good. Well, plus

0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:14.760
<v Speaker 1>not only that, with the changing climate and the warming

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 1>of the earth or the climate, I should say, um,

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>their their food supply, not just the amount of food,

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 1>but the type of food available diminished. Like I said,

0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:28.680
<v Speaker 1>you couldn't take them and put them on the Siberian

0:35:28.719 --> 0:35:31.760
<v Speaker 1>step Today. It's different plants that are there. They weren't

0:35:31.800 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 1>necessarily adapted to eat those things. You need certain enzymes

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:37.759
<v Speaker 1>to break down certain types of sugars and stuff like

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:40.800
<v Speaker 1>that to gain energy from it. And as their food changed,

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:44.600
<v Speaker 1>they got to be in big trouble. Um. That's the

0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:49.240
<v Speaker 1>climate change hypothesis. The overkill hypothesis says that somewhere around

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:52.840
<v Speaker 1>twelve to thirteen thousand years ago, humans showed up in

0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:55.440
<v Speaker 1>North America, and right about the same time, within a

0:35:55.480 --> 0:35:59.239
<v Speaker 1>thousand years, there were no more wooly mammoths, and not

0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:03.799
<v Speaker 1>just wooly amos. There's something called the um North American

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:10.960
<v Speaker 1>mega fawn extinction where mammals I think ninety genera, so

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:15.360
<v Speaker 1>not even species, but genera, the next level up in classification.

0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 1>A lot of animals, ninety of them weighing over UM

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:25.719
<v Speaker 1>I think ninety pounds. UM just all died off around

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:31.239
<v Speaker 1>the same time we covered this. Yeah, surely or like

0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:35.319
<v Speaker 1>the Clovis one, maybe UM And a lot of people say, well,

0:36:35.360 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 1>clearly it was humans, and it makes a lot of sense.

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:42.880
<v Speaker 1>It has some legs it's humans. A lot of people

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:45.200
<v Speaker 1>do think humans did show up around that time in

0:36:45.239 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 1>North America. UM. The fact that it happens so quickly,

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:51.840
<v Speaker 1>and then the point that I think about the overkill

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:54.279
<v Speaker 1>hypothesis that really drives it home to me, although I'm

0:36:54.560 --> 0:36:58.359
<v Speaker 1>more on the climate change fand wagon UM, is that

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 1>these North America can mammoths would not have co evolved

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 1>with humans like African ones did. So the African ones survived,

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:12.840
<v Speaker 1>the elephants down there, they survived because they covolved with

0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:15.840
<v Speaker 1>humans and came to understand that humans are dangerous. The

0:37:15.920 --> 0:37:19.160
<v Speaker 1>ones here in North America wouldn't have been innately afraid

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:21.440
<v Speaker 1>of humans. You've seen them as dangerous, and so it

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 1>could have been easy pickens for humans. The big problem

0:37:25.200 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 1>is is there's not that much evidence of humans mass

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:32.480
<v Speaker 1>hunting these things, well maybe not maths hunting. They have

0:37:32.600 --> 0:37:37.040
<v Speaker 1>found um. They have found like these spears and things

0:37:37.280 --> 0:37:40.880
<v Speaker 1>in mammoth bones the Clovis point, which is what we

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:43.839
<v Speaker 1>were talking about earlier. And we do know that they

0:37:43.920 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 1>use their fur and they like to use their irene,

0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 1>they like to eat them. But the problem with that

0:37:48.680 --> 0:37:52.680
<v Speaker 1>is that UM mammoth would have fed a lot of people,

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:56.319
<v Speaker 1>especially in that cold weather. You know, this natural preservation

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:59.440
<v Speaker 1>going on, so they could have lived and used that

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:04.440
<v Speaker 1>that but like a single adult or mammoth for a

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 1>long time, which means they're not going to be hunting

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 1>like five of them a day. Uh. And there's also

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 1>evidence that they were revered somewhat by their cave art.

0:38:14.400 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 1>So there are people who think that maybe it was

0:38:16.440 --> 0:38:20.239
<v Speaker 1>like the buffalo with the uh Native Americans. Maybe they

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:23.400
<v Speaker 1>respected it and they managed it. Yeah, and didn't say, hey,

0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 1>let's kill millions of these over a span of months. Right,

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:31.960
<v Speaker 1>this is a very euro American mentality. I mean, that's

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>where the buffalo almost went extinct, was when euro Americans

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 1>came over and said, let's start shooting. That's that doesn't

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>mean that that's what Native Americans did. And Plus also

0:38:43.120 --> 0:38:47.680
<v Speaker 1>there were plenty of mammoths that when extinct. The mammoth

0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:50.960
<v Speaker 1>species in the steps and in Europe when extinct two

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:54.279
<v Speaker 1>and there are humans over there for a long time,

0:38:55.200 --> 0:38:59.440
<v Speaker 1>so it's not like the humans suddenly arrived everywhere. But

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 1>yet the amoths died out at about the same time

0:39:02.680 --> 0:39:07.680
<v Speaker 1>throughout the world. Yeah. Plus, mostly people hunted smaller game,

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:13.880
<v Speaker 1>small the medium game back then like dogs maybe, but uh,

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:16.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, a mammoth like what it was probably an

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:19.759
<v Speaker 1>intimidating kill first of all. Uh, and you know what

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:22.799
<v Speaker 1>do we do with all that stuff? So I mean

0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:25.080
<v Speaker 1>it's it's like we were saying, it is a mystery

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:28.800
<v Speaker 1>still exactly what happened to him. I again my bets

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 1>on climate change. But obviously humans did kill or at

0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 1>least butcher mammoths, But I don't think they killed them

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 1>out of existence, so I agree, uh. And then that

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 1>that leads us to that last point though about bringing

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:48.480
<v Speaker 1>them back. Good idea, bad idea. I mean, it's always

0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 1>a bad idea, isn't it. I think so. But you

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 1>can also makes but do they I mean that's a

0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:57.480
<v Speaker 1>pretty fatalistic view. Like you can also make the case

0:39:57.560 --> 0:40:01.120
<v Speaker 1>that if you believe that humans into them to extinction,

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:04.839
<v Speaker 1>well then maybe it's our moral obligation to bring them

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:08.640
<v Speaker 1>back if we can. And that's the view I think of. Remember, um,

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the ten thousand Clock, ten thousand year clock episode. We

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:15.880
<v Speaker 1>did so the Long Now Foundation, Um, they're big into that,

0:40:16.080 --> 0:40:18.200
<v Speaker 1>the people who made the ten thousand year clock, they're

0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 1>big in the de extinction movement to bringing things back

0:40:23.080 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 1>and there's two ways you can do it. You can

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:30.040
<v Speaker 1>take a you can take as much viable DNA from

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:31.840
<v Speaker 1>a wooly mammoth as you can get your hands on

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:37.239
<v Speaker 1>and insert it into an Asian elephant DNA treatment. Yeah,

0:40:37.280 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 1>and then make a hybrid, and then over time you

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:43.320
<v Speaker 1>breed out the Asian elephant stuff through a breeding program

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:46.080
<v Speaker 1>until you have a pure wooly mammoth. And then the

0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:51.120
<v Speaker 1>other one is to take a the nucleus of a

0:40:51.160 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 1>wooly mammoth cell and then plant it into an embryo. Sorry, yeah,

0:40:56.680 --> 0:41:00.000
<v Speaker 1>you're right, and then you've just cloned to wooly mammoth.

0:41:00.520 --> 0:41:03.880
<v Speaker 1>After it just states in a in a poor elephant,

0:41:04.000 --> 0:41:06.319
<v Speaker 1>it's like, what what are you guys doing? I wonder

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:08.160
<v Speaker 1>if the elephant when it was born would be like

0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 1>whoa right, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, this is uh,

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:16.200
<v Speaker 1>this is a wooly man with you guys realized Rosemary's baby. Yeah,

0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:20.719
<v Speaker 1>so they Um. I think there's groups working on both

0:41:20.719 --> 0:41:29.160
<v Speaker 1>of those. And the ethics are questionable because I mean, like,

0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:31.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it's gonna sound preposterous to some people, but

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 1>what about that elephant mom, Like, you know, is she

0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:37.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna care for this baby. How's it going to affect her?

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 1>How will it affect the baby? Um, it's just a

0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:44.720
<v Speaker 1>it raises a lot of questions. And plus also everyone

0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:47.360
<v Speaker 1>is pretty much in agreement that there's no way this

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:51.880
<v Speaker 1>thing could ever live in the wild, so to living

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 1>captivity to charge people money to come see him. So yeah,

0:41:56.400 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. No I'll eat them. But so

0:42:00.600 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 1>we teased about the Mastodon earlier. Um, and you found

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:07.279
<v Speaker 1>this was a mental flass thing, right, the difference between

0:42:07.280 --> 0:42:10.319
<v Speaker 1>a mammoth and the Mastodon because they coexisted here in

0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 1>the US. The Mammoth is not a great metal band,

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:19.640
<v Speaker 1>first of all, like Atlanta's own Mastodon, who, by the way,

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:24.760
<v Speaker 1>our old friend Chris, bass player in my band, he

0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:26.960
<v Speaker 1>was at his one of his kids, or not one

0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:28.560
<v Speaker 1>of his kids. You always want a kid his kids

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:32.799
<v Speaker 1>soccer game, and the lead guy from Mastodon was right there.

0:42:32.920 --> 0:42:34.560
<v Speaker 1>His kid is on the same soccer team, the one

0:42:34.640 --> 0:42:38.360
<v Speaker 1>with the face and neck tattoos. Yeah, that guy, that's awesome.

0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:40.480
<v Speaker 1>He was like, I know who you are. By the way,

0:42:40.800 --> 0:42:47.400
<v Speaker 1>fans like, yeah, let's talk soccer? Did they? Yeah? Nice? Anyway,

0:42:47.600 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 1>They're just like normal people. Sure they have kids that

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:54.600
<v Speaker 1>play soccer, even though he's a metal god. Hm. But

0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:56.560
<v Speaker 1>what does that have to do with the wooly mammoth?

0:42:56.640 --> 0:43:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Not much? Uh. Their teeth is where you can all

0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:02.879
<v Speaker 1>the big diff that's uh yeah, is that the only

0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:06.120
<v Speaker 1>way these days? It's pretty clear that that's the only

0:43:06.120 --> 0:43:08.400
<v Speaker 1>way to tell. Well, the hair was a little different

0:43:08.440 --> 0:43:10.880
<v Speaker 1>and they don't have the high sloping back, and then

0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:13.399
<v Speaker 1>tusks are a little straighter. They look a lot more

0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:17.080
<v Speaker 1>like elephants than a mammoth does, because a mammoth looks

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:20.279
<v Speaker 1>elephant time, but it looks like especially when you put

0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:22.239
<v Speaker 1>it next to an elephant or a mastodon, it looks

0:43:22.280 --> 0:43:25.680
<v Speaker 1>like a totally different animal. Agreed. But the teeth is

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 1>the giveaway. The the elephant molars, I'm sorry. The mammoth

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:34.760
<v Speaker 1>has elephant like molars and they are like cheese graters

0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 1>or like the sole of like a running shoe. Sure,

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:44.680
<v Speaker 1>it's used to just grind through some some leaves, grasses, lovely.

0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:49.440
<v Speaker 1>The mastodon Actually the word means nipple tooth or boob tooth,

0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:51.560
<v Speaker 1>which is a bit of that was a lot of

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:57.239
<v Speaker 1>fun on the playground, right. It's because they have like

0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:03.839
<v Speaker 1>um conical bumps on their molars. That reminded this anatomist

0:44:04.200 --> 0:44:07.600
<v Speaker 1>from the I think the early nineteenth century, George Cuvier.

0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:11.200
<v Speaker 1>He said, well, these bumps look like breasts, so we're

0:44:11.239 --> 0:44:14.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna name him breast tooth. And also, I've been out

0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:20.799
<v Speaker 1>alone with my journal for far too long. Help, Yeah,

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:24.920
<v Speaker 1>you got anything else? When there's something about Thomas Jefferson,

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:28.280
<v Speaker 1>he was into the mastodons. They were actually the mastodon,

0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 1>the people he was convinced that there was a mammoth

0:44:35.440 --> 0:44:38.840
<v Speaker 1>still alive out west. Remember Lewis and Clark episode. That

0:44:38.920 --> 0:44:40.879
<v Speaker 1>was one of the reasons Lewis and Clark went out

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:43.200
<v Speaker 1>west was to look for mammothing because he was just

0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:44.920
<v Speaker 1>convinced they were out there and he thought they were

0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:47.919
<v Speaker 1>meat eaters. Though he did, I think he was part

0:44:47.920 --> 0:44:50.480
<v Speaker 1>of that train. Ben Franklin was like, I think you

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:52.799
<v Speaker 1>could probably also eat branches and stuff, which is went

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:56.240
<v Speaker 1>mastodons eight. But the massdon became like the earliest symbol

0:44:56.440 --> 0:45:01.960
<v Speaker 1>of America, an American like, ah, let's mess stuff up,

0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:06.120
<v Speaker 1>let's let's kick some butt that it came from the mastodon.

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:09.080
<v Speaker 1>And the mastodon. Also, this is like a hundred years

0:45:09.160 --> 0:45:16.560
<v Speaker 1>before they were finding um mammoths um. They it proved

0:45:17.200 --> 0:45:20.839
<v Speaker 1>for the first time the idea of extinction. Before that,

0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:24.879
<v Speaker 1>everybody's like, you're the Earth was created six thousand years ago.

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Everything was in the Garden of Eden. There was a flood,

0:45:28.040 --> 0:45:31.320
<v Speaker 1>so we lost some things, but everything else is exactly

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:34.560
<v Speaker 1>the way it's supposed to be. And the masted on

0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 1>teeth that they were finding in Eventually the bones proved

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:40.040
<v Speaker 1>that there were things that had lived before that. We're

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:45.280
<v Speaker 1>not alive any longer, and extinction became a scientific thought. Amazing.

0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:49.840
<v Speaker 1>That's a nice little cherry on top. Do we finish strong?

0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:52.719
<v Speaker 1>We did, didn't we? And by we I mean you us,

0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Chuck us Uh. If you want to know more about mammoths,

0:45:56.960 --> 0:45:58.920
<v Speaker 1>you should type that word in the search bar at

0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:00.959
<v Speaker 1>how stuff works dot com. And since I said search,

0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:05.680
<v Speaker 1>parts the time for listening to mail. Hey guys, this

0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:07.719
<v Speaker 1>is my first time emailing because I was waiting for

0:46:07.800 --> 0:46:10.680
<v Speaker 1>an opportunity 'll tell you some stuff you should know.

0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I finally came today in the form of book talk

0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:17.120
<v Speaker 1>with Josh and Chuck. Remember that, Yeah, in the Moonwalk episode,

0:46:17.239 --> 0:46:19.719
<v Speaker 1>I think so, and uh, you said that I had

0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:21.360
<v Speaker 1>said previously I didn't give a book much and I

0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:22.640
<v Speaker 1>was like, I don't think I said that. Turns out

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I did say that. I just don't remember because I'd

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 1>rarely read books that I have to put down, right,

0:46:29.000 --> 0:46:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I want to say. Also one other thing, I'm sorry

0:46:31.360 --> 0:46:34.080
<v Speaker 1>the guy who wrote Head full of Ghosts, Paul Tremblay.

0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:37.160
<v Speaker 1>I believe um. Somebody tweeted to him and said, hey,

0:46:37.160 --> 0:46:39.520
<v Speaker 1>you gotta mention in this episode, and I guess he

0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:41.400
<v Speaker 1>went and listened. He was like, that was great, and no,

0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I know how to moonwalk. And then he tweeted some

0:46:44.600 --> 0:46:46.560
<v Speaker 1>time later he's like, Okay, it's been eight hours and

0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I still have not moonwalking. Well, and I guess they're

0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:53.360
<v Speaker 1>making a movie out of his his book with uh

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Robert Downey Jr. Oh wow, it's gonna be big. Well.

0:46:56.480 --> 0:46:59.160
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if that was because of us. Probably they

0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:00.840
<v Speaker 1>were like, we're kind on the fence. And then they

0:47:00.880 --> 0:47:03.720
<v Speaker 1>heard our Moonwalk episode and they green lighted it. Wow.

0:47:04.640 --> 0:47:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Uh so, guys, I was excited to hear you rambling

0:47:07.640 --> 0:47:09.799
<v Speaker 1>about books, something I love dearly in A nice change

0:47:09.800 --> 0:47:13.000
<v Speaker 1>of base for movie talk with Josh and Chuck. Not

0:47:13.120 --> 0:47:15.080
<v Speaker 1>that I don't love movie talk or booze talk with

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Josh and Chuck. Yeah, those are the only three things

0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:20.719
<v Speaker 1>we talked about. You talked about how long each give

0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:22.239
<v Speaker 1>a book before you give up on it. Did you

0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:26.000
<v Speaker 1>know there's a rule for that, Nancy Pearl's rule of fifty.

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever heard of this? She says, I assume

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Nancy as a woman. Uh, if you're younger than fifty,

0:47:34.360 --> 0:47:37.279
<v Speaker 1>you should read fifty pages before deciding to give up.

0:47:37.760 --> 0:47:39.880
<v Speaker 1>And for every year older than fifty that you are

0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:43.879
<v Speaker 1>subtract one page, soft one, forty nine pages, and so on.

0:47:44.320 --> 0:47:48.440
<v Speaker 1>At one hundred. You judge a book by its cover. Literally,

0:47:50.200 --> 0:47:55.360
<v Speaker 1>how about that? Who's this Nancy from Heart? Nancy Wilson? Nope,

0:47:55.840 --> 0:47:58.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to see Heart soon though, Like, are they

0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:01.239
<v Speaker 1>opening for somebody or that? Are the headlining? Their Cheap

0:48:01.280 --> 0:48:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Trick is opening in Joan Jett? Are opening for Heart?

0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Awesome triple bill? Yeah, that's a heck of a bill. Yeah,

0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait. Um, So Nancy Pearl says, yeah, fifty

0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:14.399
<v Speaker 1>and then subtractive page because obviously life is getting short.

0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:17.600
<v Speaker 1>You don't have enough time to waste time. So by

0:48:17.600 --> 0:48:19.040
<v Speaker 1>the time you're a hundred, you just look at it

0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:21.520
<v Speaker 1>and go now. And you could keel over just looking

0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:24.319
<v Speaker 1>at a book. You could Also, if you haven't heard

0:48:24.320 --> 0:48:29.000
<v Speaker 1>of Nancy Pearl, she's great. She's probably the most famous librarian. Okay,

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:33.920
<v Speaker 1>there you go. I love that. At least, Well, is

0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:38.960
<v Speaker 1>there more than one famous librarian. There's gotta be If

0:48:38.960 --> 0:48:42.040
<v Speaker 1>she's the most famous, didn't have to be other famous ones.

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:45.200
<v Speaker 1>John Dewey, inventor of the Dewey decimal system. That's right,

0:48:45.840 --> 0:48:47.719
<v Speaker 1>she says. At least she's up there, And she even

0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:51.960
<v Speaker 1>has her own action figure librarian action figure. I just

0:48:52.000 --> 0:48:54.040
<v Speaker 1>got my masters in library science last year or so.

0:48:54.080 --> 0:48:57.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm a Nancy Pearl fan. Multiple professors of mine have

0:48:57.560 --> 0:49:01.320
<v Speaker 1>had the action figure in their offices. I love this story.

0:49:01.680 --> 0:49:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Chris Palette, he wanted to become a librarian. Oh yeah,

0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:07.439
<v Speaker 1>he's He deserves an accent figure too. Oh I bet he's.

0:49:07.640 --> 0:49:10.200
<v Speaker 1>He's probably uh, he's probably got a Nancy Pearl one,

0:49:10.840 --> 0:49:13.880
<v Speaker 1>former host of tex Stuff and early host of co

0:49:13.960 --> 0:49:17.640
<v Speaker 1>host of Stuff. You should know before I snuffed him out, right,

0:49:19.680 --> 0:49:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I just I didn't like kill him. I just chloroformed

0:49:22.000 --> 0:49:24.319
<v Speaker 1>him and he woke up in a library. It was like,

0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:26.440
<v Speaker 1>I guess I'll get a degree. Yeah, that's exactly how

0:49:26.480 --> 0:49:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I want. Anyway, I hope this email wasn't too long.

0:49:29.000 --> 0:49:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I thought you'd like to know about the Rule of fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>All the best, Erica in Boston, p s ce you

0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:38.799
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