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Speaker 1: get nick right for an hour and it's a news

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Speaker 1: breaking day. The Lakers just sold for a ten billion

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Speaker 1: dollar evaluation, which I believed for a long time. Nick,

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Speaker 1: all these sports franchises are undervalued. Whenever they say, you know,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys are worth seven billion dollars. My take is

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Speaker 1: if somebody in Saudi Arabia had a good month with oil,

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Speaker 1: they buy him for thirteen billion. Because you don't know

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Speaker 1: or Microsoft. You know the Dallas Cowboys are going to

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Speaker 1: be around in twenty years. In fact, I remember reading

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Speaker 1: a story years and years ago they went back to

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Speaker 1: one was still like a really it was like Chevron

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Speaker 1: or something. And so my point is the Mark Walters

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Speaker 1: And it does make me think, Okay, the mom and

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Speaker 1: pop Lakers are over, because that's been the big knock

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Speaker 1: in LA is that. I mean, people forget little old

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Speaker 1: Van Gilbert could buy the Bus family four times. They've

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Speaker 1: been one of the poorest NBA ownership groups.

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Speaker 2: Correct, and one of the poorest from a net worth perspective,

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Speaker 2: and I would argue that they haven't.

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Speaker 1: They have been one of the more poorly run organizations

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Speaker 2: And I know that's weird because they have the second

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Speaker 2: most championships and they just got Luke and Lebron went there.

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Speaker 2: But I think that they have squandered a lot of opportunities.

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Speaker 2: I think that since doctor Bus passed, they have There

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Speaker 2: are very few things you can say the Lakers do

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Speaker 2: top notch in the league. And while they have been,

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Speaker 2: you know, willing to spend, I think they've you know,

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Speaker 2: last decade, they've spent like the seventh most money they

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Speaker 2: should be the seventh most for Los Angeles Lakers. Is

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Speaker 2: not maximizing the market and the brand. I understand, it's

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Speaker 2: not baseball, so there is a cap. And in the

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Speaker 2: new NBA with the aprons, just spending recklessly can really

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Speaker 2: hamstring you. But this is a massive net positive for

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Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Lakers for their fans. In my opinion,

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Speaker 2: you should not have They're in a weird spot. We're

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Speaker 2: similar to the Cowboys, where ownership's primary source of income

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Speaker 2: is the team, and that's one of the reasons I

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Speaker 2: think the Cowboys don't necessarily spend the way they should,

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Speaker 2: and that's how I have felt about the Lakers. So listen,

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Speaker 2: I don't know much about Mark Walters. I know that

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Speaker 2: he bought twenty six percent of the team from I

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Speaker 2: think A Shoots or whomever with the guarantee. Part of

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Speaker 2: and now he's in.

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Speaker 1: Now I agree agree with you.

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Speaker 2: Historically sports franchises have been undervalued. I wonder if we

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Speaker 2: are now getting to wear ten billions, ten billion dollars

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Speaker 2: kind of like, that's a lot thing about this money.

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Speaker 1: So the the Celtics sold for six billion. The GDP

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Speaker 1: It's a trillion. In Los Angeles. The Los Angeles economy

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Speaker 1: you just if the arenas worth two billion, given where

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Speaker 2: So now it's not six versus ten. At six versus eight.

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Speaker 2: And you take the fact that LA's a bigger market,

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Speaker 2: and you know, as much as this will pain our

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Speaker 2: buddy Bill Simmons, the Lakers are the biggest brand ambasketball.

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Speaker 1: Like Celtics were in the finals two years ago, it

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Speaker 1: I mean when the Lakers are in the final, regardless

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Speaker 1: never been in the finals without one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: stars in the laws of like, oh that Lakers time

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Speaker 1: they made the finals with that scrappy, underachieving team. No,

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Speaker 1: it's Lebron or Kobe or Shacker, Magic or Kareem or Will.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they are the the This is a fun

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Speaker 2: just just more because they're just more than everyone else.

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Speaker 2: If we were to do God this is this is

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Speaker 2: the Mount rushmore franchises in American Force.

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Speaker 1: Four.

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Speaker 2: To me, there are three no brainers, and then people

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Speaker 2: brainers are the New York Yankees, the Dallas Cowboys, and

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Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Lakers. Those to me, do you think

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Speaker 2: I'm missing anything there? I think those are the three

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Speaker 2: brands that are truly.

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Speaker 1: Every corner of the world.

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Speaker 2: They're you know, somebody's walking around wearing a T shirt

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Speaker 1: Of the team. Yeah, I think I will say this.

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Speaker 1: I think the LA Dodgers because of the Walters Group,

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Speaker 1: perfect spring, summer, fall weather, O tawny. Now is you

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Speaker 1: know Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. Dodger games are now an event.

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Speaker 1: There are fans from the Pacific rim. Every home game

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Speaker 1: owed attendance for the Dodgers is number one in the league.

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Speaker 1: They played the Yankees, I think it was last year

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Speaker 1: and I mean this, I think they're a step ahead

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Speaker 1: They are a revolutionary fans, but they're not a bigger

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Speaker 1: I think Otawni changes it. I really do. Well.

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Speaker 2: If the idea is like Otani brings in and a

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Speaker 1: We're all of a sudden, it's like you have this

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Speaker 2: Because I really maybe eventually the Dodgers get there. If Yankees, Cowboys,

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Speaker 2: that fourth spot, Dodgers definitely are in the contention. The

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Speaker 2: Celtics are the Warriors, No, probably not, because that's good.

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Speaker 2: The Warriors are like the Chiefs in that it's the

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Speaker 2: but they don't have a history to where they're this

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Speaker 2: big brand. So do you think you think the Dodgers

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Speaker 2: now have surpassed the Cubs, Yes, as the second biggest

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Speaker 2: brands in base Yes, okay, because again, remember Chicago wanted

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Speaker 1: Why couldn't they get them? Because they were not considered

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Speaker 1: a global city. They were considered maybe are They're like,

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Speaker 1: Chicago has won Best North American City seven years in

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Speaker 1: but it's not viewed as an international city. D C.

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, LA, New York. Boston similarly is not necessarily

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Speaker 1: So I think they've surfaced. And the Cubs, the Ricketts family,

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Speaker 1: six thousand, Their revenues just don't. They're not close. They're

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Speaker 2: That might be right, and it also might be a

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Speaker 2: benefits their own word, but brand recognition, for lack of

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Speaker 2: you're a millennial, when you were growing up with like

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Speaker 2: because of WGN, so you could like watch your team

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Speaker 2: people can watch whatever teams they want. I just saw

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Speaker 2: the who do you sorry for this slight detour, but

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Speaker 2: after the Cowboys, what do you think the biggest brand

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Speaker 2: obviously the Chiefs, but you wonder, like if Mahomes retired,

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Speaker 2: like's an interesting everyone if nobody cares if you bought.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs today, well you would have to consider Andy

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Speaker 1: well the brand, what is the brand right now? Jerry

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Speaker 1: that when Lebron James went from the Miami Heat back

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Speaker 1: that billion equity space. He said that was a four

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Speaker 1: hundred million, billion dollar day for Dan Gilbert, the Calves

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Speaker 1: Ken Griffey saved baseball in Seattle. Lebron James changed the economy.

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Speaker 1: Taylor Swift's tour, an example, made two point one billion dollars,

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Speaker 1: the artist. So if you count, I mean, let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: if you bought a soccer franchise ten years ago and

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Speaker 1: worth half a billion dollars more So, I think the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs with Mahomes, that adds to me, that adds half

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Speaker 1: of somewhere between five hundred billion and a billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: They go from six billion to seven because of Mahomes. Well,

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Speaker 1: so that's the other piece of this.

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Speaker 2: The other piece of this is if the if the

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Speaker 2: billion dollars, what is the most valuable team in the NFL?

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Speaker 1: Worth is it fifteen billion?

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Speaker 2: Like? Honestly, like, what is if this is the new

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Speaker 2: Because you can't tell like as much as as big

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Speaker 2: of a brand as Lakers are. And I understand in

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Speaker 2: the NBA's new TV deal, I get all that there

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Speaker 2: is nothing that is the machine, that is the NFL.

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Speaker 2: So if the Lake, if we now have Lakers ten billion,

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Speaker 2: Celtic six billion, you know as the metrics, then the

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Speaker 2: if forget the Cowboys. I'm trying to think of a good,

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Speaker 2: you know, a good If the San Francisco forty nine ers, yeah,

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Speaker 2: were for sale, are they a ten billion dollar franchise.

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Speaker 1: That's what people are paying for. Yeah, I've always thought

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Speaker 1: When Balmer bought the clip yees ye, people freaked out

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Speaker 2: Well, the and again it's just the the NBA franchise

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Speaker 1: You know, it's not like the Clippers were. That was

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Speaker 1: Okay, Caitlyn Clark obviously a huge story in the controversy

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Speaker 2: All the Yukon folks had, like the former the legendary

430
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Speaker 2: Yukon players who were then in media and then Gino,

431
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Speaker 2: they all kind of, in.

432
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Speaker 1: My opinion, had a bias of man.

433
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Speaker 2: This was supposed to be what everyone was saying about

434
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 2: Paige Beckers a year ago, but page had blown out

435
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 2: her knee and she missed time and that and all

436
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 2: of that, and so they I think that they and

437
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: they also underestimated what a badass Clark was going to be.

438
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: And I think they also looked at it and said, well,

439
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 2: she's great and going to be great, but she's not

440
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 2: better than Brianna Stewart or Diana Torazzi, and they you know,

441
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 2: if they had a transition, she will do. And the

442
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:57,679
Speaker 2: answer is she's a She is already one of the

443
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Speaker 2: four best players in the league.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she is already.

445
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 2: An absolute and I say this in the kindest words,

446
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 2: an asshole on the court, like the way you kind

447
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 2: of need to They don't need to be, but it's

448
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 2: something people historically like in their athletes, like a trash

449
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 2: Larry Bird, Michael Jordan, a trash talker, you know, hard ass.

450
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: And she is already.

451
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 2: Impacting winning I think she has the best per game

452
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Speaker 2: plus minus in the league of everyone that's not on

453
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Speaker 2: the New.

454
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Speaker 1: York Liberty and Liberty or just crossed ten years excepts.

455
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Speaker 1: So the quality of WNBA play in the last ten

456
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 1: years has improved more than any league anywhere. The players

457
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: are the nutrition's better, the strength is better, you go

458
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: YouTube and WNBA game ten years ago, they did not

459
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: pass like this. Candas Parker ten years ago led the

460
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: league in assists at five and a half a game

461
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Speaker 1: a game. Not only is Caitlin Clark the best shooter,

462
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Speaker 1: the best guard, the most influential, she's also dealing nine

463
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Speaker 1: assists per game. So what she's done is she's really

464
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 1: changed the tempo. She's doubling these all time assist numbers

465
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Speaker 1: were close to it, and giving you threes and shooting

466
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Speaker 1: nine feet beyond the arc. So, I mean, as much

467
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Speaker 1: as I liked her and I thought she would be

468
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Speaker 1: really good, I remember saying on the air, She's she's

469
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Speaker 1: gonna be really good, top ten player, really fast, I

470
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Speaker 1: didn't think she'd be this.

471
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Speaker 2: No, I listen she I agree with you that I

472
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 2: do think she is, and in contributing to winning exceeding expectations,

473
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Speaker 2: I also think that and maybe eventually we'll get there.

474
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Speaker 2: But there so much in my I don't know what

475
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Speaker 2: you said on the air about this today because I

476
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 2: missed it, but so much of the social media pearl

477
00:27:55,960 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: clutching of basically we need to protect Caitlyn Clark, I

478
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: just think it's so.

479
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 1: I think it's.

480
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: Patronizing, and I also think it fails to recognize this is,

481
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Speaker 2: in my opinion, the best case scenario for the league.

482
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Speaker 2: The fact that she is has this swagger that there

483
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: and Brew made this point, and I thought it was

484
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: a really good one. The fact that yesterday's altercations primarily

485
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 2: happened with Caitlin against other white players was actually a

486
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 2: really nice thing because it removed any of the bullshit like,

487
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: oh the are the black players don't like it? No,

488
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: you know who doesn't like Kitlyn Larky, most of her opponents,

489
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Speaker 2: you know, you know who historically is not that popular

490
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: in sports. The young, awesome, swaggery, trash talking player. That

491
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: player usually has allies on their team and their fans.

492
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Speaker 1: And that's it.

493
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: Got Joe direct by doctor j everybody.

494
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: And so and so. That's awesome. Here's another thing that's awesome.

495
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: This is only gonna make Caitlin better and tougher and stronger.

496
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: That's great.

497
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 2: The fact that it is hard and that like because

498
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: the idea, because some of Caitlyn's like, there's a real

499
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: lunatic fringe on the internet about this conversation. And I

500
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: hate doing in life. I don't actually really think both

501
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: sides are a problem. Very often in the Caitlin Clark thing,

502
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 2: it is both sides. It is people on both ends

503
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: of the spectrum are out of their minds, and the

504
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: biggest Caitlyn fans are like the leak. This is the

505
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 2: league's cash cow, and if they if they're not suspending

506
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: these other players, she could get hurt. Like, give me

507
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: a break. It was a light shove. She fell down.

508
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: She's gonna be fine. That fever are gonna be in

509
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 2: big games for a long time. It is she is

510
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: sustainable drawing eyeballs, and I do think it is. Note

511
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: while people pointed out correctly, oh man, when she was out,

512
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: the ratings dropped. The other piece of this is the

513
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 2: ratings dropped, but we're still higher than pre Caitlin Clark WNBA,

514
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 2: which means while yes, some people are just showing up

515
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: for her, some people showed up for her, and we're like, oh,

516
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: I like basketball, and this is a pretty good product

517
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 2: all stick around, even if she's not there. At least

518
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: some people did. It's the best thing imaginable for the league.

519
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 2: It's the best thing imaginable for her, and it is

520
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: for us, you know, here in hockey ended last night.

521
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: Basketball probably ends tomorrow in the NBA. It'll be nice

522
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: to have like a captivating sports story for the summer

523
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: other than baseball.

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Speaker 1: So I'm excited about it.

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00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: All right.

526
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Speaker 1: One quick note on the NBA Finals that I don't

527
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Speaker 1: know why this popped into my head, but I was

528
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: watching just the relentlessness of okac's defense and how they

529
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: were just blocking every shot and creating turnovers, and I

530
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: thought to myself, I bet if you took the college

531
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: basketball national champion, they could not score twenty points on

532
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: Oklahoma Cities defense. And I also thought this, if you

533
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Speaker 1: took the ewing John Starks, you know was Anthony Mason,

534
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: Charles Oaklean Knicks, they don't score forty points in a game,

535
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: and you think I'm crazy. They were held at the

536
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Speaker 1: seventies by the Pacers. If you don't have four ball

537
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: handlers against OKC, you are ft. That's why when Halliburton's hurt,

538
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: it's over, the series is over. Is their defense. Their

539
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: perimeter pressure picking up the ball at half court they

540
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: don't even need to trap, is so intense that the

541
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: only way to beat them is to try try and

542
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: spread the floor, have multiple three shooters, or have a

543
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 1: kind of transformational Halliburton, Turkey, Jerky Long weird stop start guy.

544
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: This defense. If you would have put Oklahoma City's defense

545
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: against a Magic we all know players are now more skilled.

546
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: They I mean, seven foot guys now handle the ball

547
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: and shoot three. Nobody the Knicks never had a jump shooter,

548
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: a consistent Starks was an inconsttent jump shooter. No Starks

549
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: was an undrafted play. If you put Oklahoma City including

550
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: Jordan's team, if you put Oklahoma City in that era,

551
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying they beat him. They would be holding

552
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: teams Michael's teams to the seventy point range. They don't

553
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: have enough shooters and ball handlers back then. Well so

554
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: they are.

555
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: I don't think this Oklahoma City team is like one

556
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: of the three or four best defenses in the history

557
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: of the league's defense.

558
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: It's really unique.

559
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 2: Exactly what I was going to say, crazy, but almost

560
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: all of those teams that you consider the best defense

561
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:16,239
Speaker 2: has ever had as a common denominator a dominant rim protector. Right,

562
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: so people bring up like, oh, the four Pistons defense,

563
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: you had four time defensive Play of the Year Ben Wallace.

564
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: They you know, the eight Celtics not an all time defense,

565
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: but a really good defense. You had Kevin Garnett down

566
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: low and I'm not acting, listen. Chet does a good

567
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 2: job and Hartenstein does a good job. But they are

568
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: a great defense. That is because of what it does

569
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: to you on the perimeter. And the team that it

570
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: does remind me of is the nineties Bulls, the second

571
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: three people Bulls who did not have a dominant rim protector.

572
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Speaker 1: What they did have.

573
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Speaker 2: Was Pippen and Rodman and Michael who could just swarm

574
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 2: you and get to you, like make it it's so

575
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 2: hard to get across half court, yeah, and trap you

576
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,719
Speaker 2: and those things. And so that's what's so unique and

577
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: special about this team, and it is the fact that

578
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: the guys who come off the bench for them are

579
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 2: It's such an interesting and I think smart thing Pressty did,

580
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 2: which is most teams like their seventh or their eighth man.

581
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,720
Speaker 2: It's a guy like campaign who he's on your team

582
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 2: because hey, he might be able to hit a couple threes,

583
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 2: he might give us a burst of offense.

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00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: And Presty was like, you know what, We're gonna have

585
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: enough offense.

586
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: What if the guys we have who come off the

587
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 2: bench are just more. They are defense, not only but

588
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 2: mostly guys, and so that way you never get a breath.

589
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 2: You are just for forty eight minutes. If you're a

590
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 2: perimeter player on the other team, brutal, your night sucks

591
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 2: because it goes from Dort to Crusoe to Wiggins.

592
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: And that is my point. They wouldn't beat the Bulls,

593
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: but they are so uniquely built to stop the seventies,

594
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: eighties nineties era where your forwards and centers couldn't handle

595
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 1: the ball. They would be just in they would be

596
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: I mean again, Michael was never a great ball handler.

597
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: He wasn't and Pippen what Pippen was great in transition,

598
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: Kobe was a better ball handler than Michael. And so

599
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Michael and those guys wouldn't win. Michael

600
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't score. But this team more than any defaults.

601
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 2: Oh, it'd be it would those games would be like

602
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 2: Bulls seventy eight, you know, Okaz seventy It would be yeah, oh,

603
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 2: it would be like what what you're just It would

604
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 2: be like what a lot of the Knicks heat playoff

605
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: games in the nineties looked like. Where it's like going

606
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: into the fourth sixty one to fifty eight, like, for real.

607
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: No question, I'm not even knocking it. I grew up

608
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: on that basket.

609
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and but that that's what it was, and that

610
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 2: was for different reasons. But uh, but yeah, I am.

611
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 2: I am really And one thing that I have been,

612
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 2: I'll admit it shocked by. I was shocked by Jalen

613
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: Williams scoring forty in a finals game. Like in the

614
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: history of the NBA colin number two options to score

615
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: forty in a finals game. Kyrie did it twice, Chris

616
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 2: Middleton did it oddly, and gosh darn it, there was

617
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 2: one other one that now I can't remember, James Worthy

618
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 2: did it, but James Worthy did in the game Magic

619
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: was out injured. For Kobe scored forty in a finals

620
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: game once his whole career, and it was in nine

621
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 2: so it wasn't when he was the number two option

622
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 2: to shock a guy as the second option. Only thirty

623
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 2: people ever have scored forty in a finals game. Yeah,

624
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 2: and twenty five of them are some of the greatest

625
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 2: players you've ever seen. And so for Jalen Williams to

626
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,760
Speaker 2: do that in a game that Chase still had thirty,

627
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 2: that was that was remarkable. And it made you think

628
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 2: about what this team is going to be long term.

629
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: And both his parents were in the military. Named the

630
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: last athlete who had both parents in the military. I

631
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: got Jaylen Williams Santa Clara. I think I looked it

632
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: up online. But when I watch his game, you know

633
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: what I see? I see parenting grinding. Literally it's seven

634
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: a game at Santa Clara eleven eighteen, fourteen eighteen. You

635
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: can see the time he's put in the gym. You

636
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: can see his discipline. He has the I said this

637
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: today to j Mack. He's a better offensive player now

638
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: than Scottie Pippen. His you can sh to be a

639
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:53,479
Speaker 1: good shoot react.

640
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: It's been his career high in the in the playoffs

641
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 2: with on the Bulls was thirty two yea his career.

642
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: I covered him important. I never trusted him on jump

643
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: shots ever. Sure Jalen Williams. When I see a player,

644
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 1: you see this with Lebron. They can go to his

645
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Speaker 2: but that's why where Prest he's been good is they

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Speaker 1: Picks so what your bench is.

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Speaker 2: a bad. Thing he will draft older college. Players he

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Speaker 2: wants guys that can come in and play. Immediately he

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Speaker 1: Young So presty's gonna draft Like villanova guy or guy

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Speaker 2: And so and so he's but they Are, Listen i've

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Speaker 1: really really solid foundational pieces of. BROADCASTING i have great.

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Speaker 1: ADMIRATION i do not think they've been good with THE. Nba,

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Speaker 1: Marv Albert i've ever heard of, basketball BUT i think

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Speaker 2: Am it seems like a much bigger fan of the

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Speaker 1: And so it was like it was.

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Speaker 2: Great SO i am far less critical of the actual

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Speaker 1: This why DON'T i know? More why pregame? Postgame remember

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Speaker 1: deep on the, players not just this superfluous eight second.

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Speaker 2: big an. Event AND i think so WHEN i SAW

856
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,720
Speaker 2: i don't know if it's AN nbc Or amazon whichever

857
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 2: one just, Announced hey guess who's gonna be part of

858
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: our basketball?

859
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 1: Coverage Michael. JORDAN i know.

860
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 2: Some people are gonna are, like, like, well how much

861
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 2: did you spend on that and, like is that gonna

862
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: actually draw more? People it will make it feel. Important

863
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 2: and so LIKE i do when people When twitter, says you,

864
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,760
Speaker 2: know why are their pregame introductions when they haven't shown,

865
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 2: those by the, way in twelve, Years but all of a,

866
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 2: sudden and it's like where'd the trophy go on the

867
00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: floor and the final. Script it's little Things and here's

868
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 2: Where i'm. Surprised THE nba drops the ball a. Bit

869
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 2: they clearly think some of those things matter because they

870
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 2: do them for the fucking commission The. Cup like the they're, like,

871
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: OH i know this is an in season tournament game

872
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 2: because the court's different like, This so they're, like we're

873
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 2: gonna key for the. Audience this is important for the

874
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: for The Commissioner's cup and THE Nba. Finals it looks

875
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: like a regular like so that's those types of things

876
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: they could do. Better the other thing, is and this,

877
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: was you, know, famously you, know this was one of

878
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 2: our Pal Bill simmons' biggest you know frustrations when he

879
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 2: was part of the, pregame halftime post game is there's

880
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 2: just so much they use that and, Listen i'm not

881
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 2: a businessman And i'm sure it's smart. Business it's about

882
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 2: commercial inventory load for the halftime show in. Particular, okay

883
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 2: so that's that's totally. Fine if you've like, crunched that's

884
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 2: the way do. It but IT'S i would, say if

885
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 2: that's going to be the case instead of having four

886
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 2: people give forty second, opinions then that's the spot For,

887
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 2: hey here's a really really well produced four minute.

888
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: Feature, yeah you.

889
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 2: Know a special interest or a personal interest or whatever it.

890
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 2: Is AND i also again i'm you, Know i'm A

891
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 2: bob Costas. STAN i met him WHEN i was twelve years.

892
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 2: Old he was incredibly kind to. ME i think he's

893
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 2: the goat broadcaster as far as all, things BUT i

894
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 2: miss the like many essays that he would give in

895
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 2: the lead up to a finals, game where he's like

896
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 2: setting the table for the stakes of the. Event and so,

897
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 2: YEAH i do think that that type of thing could

898
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: be done. Better AND i also think THAT i DO

899
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 2: i think there is real value two for the finals

900
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 2: for your major, events for your major, contributors for that

901
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 2: to be their signature.

902
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 1: Event and by THAT i, mean, like so you brought

903
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: Up scott Van.

904
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 2: Pelt scott Van, pelt you, know does an amazing job

905
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 2: on his. Show he also has a signature, event which

906
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: is the the golf he does FOR, Espn, right and

907
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 2: it's like that's that's his. Thing each year is the

908
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: major tournament ON. Espn they're the majors ON. ESPN i

909
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: think that if, you're if you, are and this isn't

910
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 2: BECAUSE i have, recently you, KNOW i think, fairly you,

911
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 2: know TAKE i don't, Know i've taken some shots are

912
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 2: the right, word but voice my frustration with some of

913
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: the things Steven a has. Done this is not about

914
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:04,759
Speaker 2: Steven a, individually but if you use Steven a for

915
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 2: all of your big, stuff then it if everything is why.

916
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: Special right its? It it's why Former President obama will

917
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: not endorse Every democratic candidate or will not run to a.

918
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: Microphone he doesn't want to dilute his. Opinion he is

919
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: he is the most Popular, democrat and his take is

920
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 1: always everybody's, like Where's? Obama, well he doesn't want to

921
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 1: latch himself onto the, crazy lunatic fringe wing of the.

922
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: Left he's not going to endorse losing. Candidates and you

923
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: can't have an opinion on every Time trump offends, you

924
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: because he offends you seven times a, day so he

925
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: makes it a two to three time a year strong.

926
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: Opinion AND i think That and this is, AGAIN I STEVEN.

927
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: A smith's a. FRIEND i text him reasonably regularly. Regularly

928
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: that's not, it and this is not in any. Way

929
00:54:55,640 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 1: i'm not harboring ever any resentment OF. ESPN i have friends.

930
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,439
Speaker 1: THERE i really respect. IT i really. DO i talk

931
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: to people there all the. Time BUT i do think

932
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,959
Speaker 1: they make THE Sec championship feel like the f And Super.

933
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 1: Bowl if you're Watching fowler.

934
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:18,800
Speaker 2: And herbstreet, Right i'm talking about No saban, McAfee Herb,

935
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 2: street it feels big in THE. Nba it's like you

936
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 2: had a great, crew you blew it, out the chemistry

937
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 2: with this is your halftime, shows Musical.

938
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:33,760
Speaker 1: Chairs it just doesn't feel big. Enough AND i don't

939
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 1: think this about them. Often that's back to my initial

940
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,959
Speaker 1: point WHY i want to See amazon IN. Nbc i'm

941
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: fascinated to see their presentation BECAUSE i think THAT i

942
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: THINK nbc has a History, Olympics Sunday Night. Football NBC's

943
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: always made things feel big in my, lifetime AND i

944
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: think they're going to Make Jordan is a CLASSIC nbc.

945
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: Move Is i'm turn. In i'm gonna Watch, jordan of,

946
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: course of.

947
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 2: Course and it's in a very fractured attention. Economy, yeah

948
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 2: making things feel like events is so wildly, important and

949
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 2: a lot of that really is to do with.

950
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: Again the, fluff the, pageantry the all all that.

951
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 2: Stuff AND i think your point about THE Sec championship

952
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: is a great. One it's obviously it's obvious that they

953
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 2: can do, this and they can do it very, well

954
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 2: oh my. God and they understand the importance of it

955
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 2: by the fact that they paid whatever they paid to

956
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 2: Get Bucking, akman Because Bucking, akman it was like that

957
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 2: stamps us as as.

958
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: We are taking this.

959
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 2: Seriously we have these two super respected, voices.

960
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: And so it is. Odd it just it's odd that

961
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: they have been a little adrift on. This, yeah, no

962
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: and and and. AGAIN I i've always Thought Game day

963
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: AND Sec. CHAMPIONSHIPS i, MEAN i THINK espn makes The

964
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: Little League World series feel. Gigantic AND i THINK i

965
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: TOLD i told Her Eric shanks WHEN i first. Came he,

966
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: said what would you take if you could take anything FROM?

967
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: Espn AND i, said the draft would hurt their. Soul

968
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: AND i want a couple of weeks off In, august

969
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: go get The Little League World. Series that'd be perfect for.

970
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: You uh, yeah that'd be really.

971
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 2: Good that's a fun, one did You you know this

972
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 2: IS i keep sidebarring your, podcast but this would be

973
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 2: a fun podcast to do.

974
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: A draft, of like the coolest events to.

975
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 2: Broadcast we don't have to do it right, now but

976
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 2: like down the road like that and the other the you.

977
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 2: Mentioned you, know our biggest, Boss Eric. SHANKS i don't

978
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 2: know If Michael molvahill, is like are one of our,

979
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 2: bosses but he's certainly one of the smartest people at the.

980
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 2: Company he's been on your podcast or on YOUR tv.

981
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 2: Show The draft that they do an actual draft of

982
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 2: college football games that the different.

983
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: Networks it is.

984
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 2: Fascinating not only not only DO i want to one

985
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 2: day be in the room for it, Again i'm not

986
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 2: going to ruffle any feathers. Here i'm a little offended

987
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 2: that no one wants has been, like, Hey, nick you

988
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,760
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989
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,560
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990
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:44,880
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991
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,840
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992
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 2: i Fellas i'm, available just another another brain in the

993
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 2: room for you if you want.

994
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: It like that would be.

995
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: So and if you don't know What i'm talking about

996
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:59,439
Speaker 2: the different, networks it's, like, okay with the first, pick

997
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 2: and AGAIN i Don't tenant's Always Ohio, State, Michigan.

998
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,439
Speaker 1: Ohio, State. Michigan and then who has the second? Pick

999
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: and that's.

1000
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 2: How that's how for the games that could go to different,

1001
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 2: networks they have an actual draft and a couple of

1002
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 2: years AGO i.

1003
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: Know it Like fox traded a.

1004
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,439
Speaker 2: Pick, Yeah they're, like we'll trade you the third pick

1005
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 2: for like the eighth and the. Ninth it's super. Fascinating

1006
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 2: that is super.

1007
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: FUN i will say in terms of big, EVENTS i

1008
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: go to about FOUR ufc fights a. Year and that's

1009
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 1: Why Dana, white among other, things Brings. Trump he wants

1010
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: it to feel, big he gets a, reaction it makes the,

1011
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: news it's it's all over cable. Television so like him or,

1012
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: not it's. SMART i think THE, ufc of all the

1013
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: Events i've been in My i've been to in my,

1014
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: Life i've Been i've been to everything except The Kentucky,

1015
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 1: derby and that's just been a time. ISSUE i Just

1016
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: i'm always doing something at that time of the. Year

1017
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 1: THE ufc does a great job on. SITE i so

1018
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: every TIME i go to A ufc, FIGHT i take

1019
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: a new friend to introduce him to the. Sport all

1020
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: of them are, like CAN i come again to? This

1021
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 1: can you get more? Tickets dana's always understood the value of.

1022
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: That that and and and there was a. Run not

1023
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: that they're in a slump, now but Without connor And John,

1024
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: jones there's always great For they don't have. It they

1025
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: don't have a megastar right, now they don't have a cross,

1026
01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: sad but it's such a well run company and. Event

1027
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: it's like wrestling right now you get you get a

1028
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,959
Speaker 1: whole cogan once every fifteen, years, right you just. Don't

1029
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: and SO wwe, Similarly roman reins you, know he was

1030
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: he was, Good he looked the. Part but for a

1031
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: WHILE i don't think they felt Like Roman reigns was quite, it,

1032
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: Right So nick conn And Dana, white that's. Right So

1033
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: Nick conn and and AND i mean And Dana, white

1034
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: you YOU i don't care how well you're. Running both

1035
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: THE wwe AND ufc are brilliantly run. SOMETIMES i, mean

1036
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 1: who could have guessed The rock would have been the

1037
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: biggest star In. Hollywood. Right some of it's just you,

1038
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: know crazy. Luck, so BUT i think THE ufc does

1039
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: A i mean every TIME i go to THE ufc,

1040
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: fight never not had AN a plus plus plus. Time

1041
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,439
Speaker 1: love the, environment love the, people, everybody and it's cool

1042
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 1: because You're i'm sitting by a. LISTERS i get good

1043
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: c's and they're all ON t shirts and. Jeans nobody's,

1044
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: precious Nobody's so the thing THAT i and this IS.

1045
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 2: I have.

1046
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: Never been To that's not.

1047
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 2: TRUE i went to A ufc fight WHEN i was a,

1048
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,880
Speaker 2: teenager like when the company was kind of in its.

1049
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 2: Infancy uh THAT i think In Atlantic. CITY i don't

1050
01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 2: even remember WHY i was, There but as an, Adult

1051
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 2: i've never. Been and the other, thing And i'd love,

1052
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 2: To and the this is me, saying you, Know i'm

1053
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 2: one of those friends you should invite basically if you

1054
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 2: can't pick up on. It the other the other thing.

1055
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 4: IS I i would Love now THAT i make decent,

1056
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 4: MONEY i would love to have six seats to a

1057
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 4: big boxing.

1058
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: Match So i've been. To i've been to.

1059
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 2: BOXING ufc is better than boxing BECAUSE I i'll tell you.

1060
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 2: Why because you can GET i went TO i went

1061
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 2: to Seven pacquiel, fights AND i went To Haggler, hearns

1062
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 2: AND i went To tyson a lot Of, tysons but

1063
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 2: the undercard nobody gave a shit. About since the women's

1064
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 2: division has, exploded, WELL ufc will be a, better a

1065
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 2: better four, hours there's no doubt about, it because you

1066
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 2: have a bunch of fights on fights on. FIGHTS i

1067
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 2: still a huge boxing match to me is still as

1068
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 2: cool of a thing as there is in. Sports there

1069
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 2: aren't many of them these, days but like six seats

1070
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 2: to a big time, fight be.

1071
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:58,240
Speaker 1: Sick but.

1072
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,880
Speaker 2: There it's also that's Another East coast coast thing where

1073
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 2: so much of it disproportionately is In. Vegas it's so

1074
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 2: much easier if you're IN la to shoot up To

1075
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 2: vegas than if you're In New. YORK i am In

1076
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 2: vegas pretty, often, though SO i GUESS i could.

1077
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,920
Speaker 1: Go, YEAH i never outside of THE. Us only thing

1078
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: that gets me To vegas IS, ufc AND i go.

1079
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 1: THERE i fly in by four times a. YEAR i love.

1080
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 2: It it's harder for you now now that you're In,

1081
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 2: chicago and oh it's not how's that?

1082
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: Going? OH i Love. Chicago IT'S i mean the weather's you,

1083
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: know you get lightning storms right, now, humidity and you

1084
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 1: have weather. Here you don't have weather IN. La you

1085
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: have weather, here but you're still liking it's still taking the. Train,

1086
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: OH i love. IT i love. It the, traffic by the,

1087
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 1: way this is just my. Take traffic's worse In chicago THAN.

1088
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 1: La and it's not close because, yeah the north suburbs

1089
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,919
Speaker 1: into the city and downtown to the airport is worse

1090
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: than ANYTHING la. Produces oh hold, ON i have to

1091
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: push back on you. First ad you are as the

1092
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 1: kids would say right. Now now your privilege is.

1093
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 2: Showing you are only saying that because of where you

1094
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 2: lived IN la in relation to where you worked and

1095
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 2: where you would go if you.

1096
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: Like for, you the traffic IN.

1097
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 2: La you lived on close to the beach and you

1098
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 2: worked In WEST, la so you avoid you never got.

1099
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 2: Snarled you were never, like, oh, Man i'm coming from the.

1100
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 2: Valley i've got to go through. Downtown now you live

1101
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 2: in a, nice cushy. Suburb if you're coming into the, City,

1102
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 2: yeah you're dealing with.

1103
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 1: It you're in, it, Buddy you're in.

1104
01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 2: It i'm in The but it's similar Like manhattan WHERE

1105
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 2: i live is Very people talk About New york, traffic

1106
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 2: BUT i don't think they totally. Understand LIKE i live In,

1107
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 2: harlem which Is Upper, manhattan AND i work In midtown

1108
01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 2: and it takes me eighteen minutes during rush hour twenty

1109
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 2: eight minutes worked to home or home to. Work and

1110
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 2: it's not because traffic In manhattan's not. That it's because

1111
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 2: the worst traffic In manhattan is not going north.

1112
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: South it's going.

1113
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 2: Across it's going east west from the east side of

1114
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 2: The west, side of the west side of The East,

1115
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 2: side or It's Lower manhattan Where Wall street And soho

1116
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 2: and all those places. Are that's where you can be

1117
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 2: just taking an hour to go two. Blocks and so

1118
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 2: it's very for me, personally traffic's no problem at.

1119
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,400
Speaker 1: All for a lot of, people it's a huge part

1120
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 1: of their.

1121
01:05:33,640 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 2: Life of you now In chicago are dealing with, it

1122
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 2: But AND's loving.

1123
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 1: It, YEAH i, mean It's CHICAGO'S i Think Conde nast

1124
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 1: has said. It DID i say this? Earlier it's the

1125
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:48,640
Speaker 1: best city In North america seven straight. YEARS i read

1126
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: a piece In The New York times. Yesterday they were

1127
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: talking about mayoral candidates and The New York times Acknowledged

1128
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: New york's not the. Same it's. Declining build De blacio

1129
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 1: was a really bad, MAYOR k through twelve. Regressed there's

1130
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 1: a sense the schools aren't as. STRONG i have a

1131
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: friend that goes there on a twice a month, basis

1132
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: and he said it smells like pot everywhere. Everywhere, well that, part.

1133
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 2: LISTEN i think THE i think the downfall Of New

1134
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 2: York city is greatly. OVERSTATED i also think The New

1135
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 2: York times what they've done in this mayoral election is

1136
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 2: a little. Cowardly but we don't have to get into.

1137
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 2: It nobody cares about my thoughts on The New york mayoral,

1138
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 2: race or maybeople, do but this isn't the platform for.

1139
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: It what is true, is, yeah it does smell like

1140
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 1: weed every. Everywhere that, part that, part that part is.

1141
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 2: Undeniable and what's also true is as a guy who

1142
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 2: doesn't smoke weed but does occasionally like to bumb a

1143
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 2: cigarette from somebody BECAUSE i don't like to buy, cigarettes

1144
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 2: but you, know OCCASIONALLY i like to smoke a. Cigarette

1145
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 2: it is maddening to walk outside and to walk a

1146
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 2: few blocks and come across a dozen people smoking and

1147
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,439
Speaker 2: not a single one of them are smoking. Cigarettes i'm,

1148
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 2: like there's no one to bum a cigarette. FROM i

1149
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,959
Speaker 2: could easily, ask CAN i hit your? Joint but there's

1150
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 2: no one to bumb a cigarette from these. Days so

1151
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,919
Speaker 2: that part the fact that the idea that the city

1152
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 2: smells like, weed that bart's.

1153
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 1: True And i'm very smell. Influence i'm weather and smell.

1154
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 1: INFLUENCE i some people smell really affects, me LIKE i

1155
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 1: don't like to be in Places i'm very sensitive to the. Weed,

1156
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: listen the.

1157
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 2: True legalization in marijuana, HERE i don't know if it's

1158
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 2: had many, actual like negative impacts on this on society

1159
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:53,480
Speaker 2: Or i'll be blacked or anything like.

1160
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: That it certainly is true that it smells like weed.

1161
01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 1: Off that's that's not and that would it's not. Deniable

1162
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:04,080
Speaker 1: that would drive me crazy because Downtown chicago, DOESN'T la.

1163
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 1: DOESN'T i was In boston. Recently boston. Doesn't i'm trying

1164
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: to think of the LAST i, MEAN i haven't been

1165
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 1: To New york in two, years BUT i have. Heard

1166
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: it's just at times it's just, listen there is a

1167
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: lot of people smoking with that part is and there's

1168
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:20,600
Speaker 1: garbage on the streets In New. York In.

1169
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 2: Chicago they put, It now we've been the, case so

1170
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 2: now we just got. Bins we just got, bins a

1171
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 2: new thing In New.

1172
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 1: York we just got. Bins so.

1173
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 2: The, again nobody really cares about my take.

1174
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: On New york.

1175
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 2: MAYORS i will tell YOU i don't think the one

1176
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 2: we have right now is that great one.

1177
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 1: Thing it seems like he did a decent job on of.

1178
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 2: IS i don't think he was really good at corruption

1179
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:50,519
Speaker 2: and getting rid of rats and so and and by

1180
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 2: WHEN i say good at, CORUPTION i don't mean like

1181
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 2: rooting out. CORRUPTION i mean like he's skilled at. Corruption

1182
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 2: but also he got rid of.

1183
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: Rats that was. Good you know IT'S i joked WHEN

1184
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,160
Speaker 1: i people THINK la Is Looney. Tunes but WHEN i

1185
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 1: was AND i remember, moving there's always been a reputation,

1186
01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:11,639
Speaker 1: that you, KNOW la is hippies and crazy and drugs and,

1187
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: uh you, know unethical behavior and. AFFAIRS i never forget

1188
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 1: moving out. East the governor Of connecticut got thrown out

1189
01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,719
Speaker 1: of office for building a hot tub on state. Money

1190
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 1: there Was Elliot, spitzer The New jersey governor got run

1191
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:30,880
Speaker 1: out of office for a controversial. Relationship it was an

1192
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 1: s show politics In New, York connecticut And jersey were

1193
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: just an, insane unethical.

1194
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 2: Warright now one of the guy who's probably going to,

1195
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:48,200
Speaker 2: win uh corporate probably is going to win the race

1196
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 2: For Aris, cuomo.

1197
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 1: Who was the.

1198
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 2: Governor, yeah but he got he got run, Out, uh you,

1199
01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 2: know not exactly in.

1200
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:57,879
Speaker 1: Glory, Yeah AND i do think multiple.

1201
01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 2: AFFAIRS i do think the long Time United States senator

1202
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 2: From New jersey just yesterday started in eleven year prison. Sentence,

1203
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:10,800
Speaker 2: yeah because when The feds raided his, house he had

1204
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 2: literal gold. BARS i gotta tell you that's kind of.

1205
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 2: Awesome like not the not the, bribes BUT i do

1206
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 2: think that like if of all the stores of value

1207
01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:27,040
Speaker 2: one could, have IF i IF i went to someone's

1208
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 2: house and they're, like, hey here's my flash drive of,

1209
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 2: Crypto i'm, like, okay you go to someone's house and they're.

1210
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 1: Like, hey here's my gold. Bars i'm like that's, Sick

1211
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:39,680
Speaker 1: like that is like the gold the gold the gold.

1212
01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:42,639
Speaker 2: Bars being how AM i going to hide this? Bribe

1213
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:45,759
Speaker 2: what IF i just take it in gold? Bars that's pretty.

1214
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:50,240
Speaker 1: Awesome, well it's just interesting because as somebody that now

1215
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 1: lives who grew up in The West, coast traveled a

1216
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 1: decade in The East. Coast now live in The. MIDWEST

1217
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 1: i lived in all four. Corners now That i've lived

1218
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 1: in everywhere in the, country The, midwest the corners, everywhere

1219
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 1: is that it was. Interesting the perception Of la was

1220
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:09,640
Speaker 1: just hippies and everything was a p diddy. Party the

1221
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:15,759
Speaker 1: corruption in The northeast politics is there's nothing like. It

1222
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 1: it is. Wild AND i Think i've said this. Before

1223
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:23,639
Speaker 1: The northeast is really. Intense Like chicago's a big city

1224
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 1: and they've had corruption in. Politics but people, here like

1225
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,879
Speaker 1: in the northern part of, town it's all golf. Courses

1226
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: it's very. Recreational you have a beach on the. City

1227
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:36,880
Speaker 1: In New. York even to go to The hamptons is.

1228
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: Hard New york it's a grind and what that grind

1229
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 1: hurts what the grind. Creates work, hard play. Hard and

1230
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: In New york there's a SENSE i have a harder.

1231
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 1: Life the, weather the, taxes the, rent the, intensity the.

1232
01:11:53,360 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: Competition i'm going to reward myself for, that and it

1233
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:02,440
Speaker 1: often becomes bad. Behavior think about The West. Coast seattle's

1234
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,520
Speaker 1: on the, Water San francisco's on the, Water San diego's

1235
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 1: on the, Water LA's on the. Water you can work

1236
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: sixty hours a. Week you're on the.

1237
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 2: Beach like, well so that's our Mutual one of the

1238
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 2: one of the thought smartest Things i've heard about The

1239
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 2: New york IN la was from our mutual Friend, maverick

1240
01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 2: who lives IN la and he's from The. Midwest has, lived,

1241
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 2: yeah has lived in, it lived a bunch of, places

1242
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 2: but seems.

1243
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: To really LOVE.

1244
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 2: La and he said to, Me he's, like there's No

1245
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 2: sundays In New.

1246
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,519
Speaker 1: York And i'm, like what do you.

1247
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 2: Mean he's, like IN, la On, sunday if you didn't

1248
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:44,960
Speaker 2: know what day of the week it, was but you

1249
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,960
Speaker 2: woke up and you looked outside and you, listened you

1250
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 2: Can sunday just feels and sounds.

1251
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: Different it's, quieter there's less going. On It's.

1252
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 2: Sunday he's, like there's No sunday In New. York he's,

1253
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 2: like you you wake up up In New york and

1254
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 2: you look. Outside every day is. Intense you know WHAT i,

1255
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 2: Mean it's. Intense AND i was, like, oh that's, like

1256
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 2: that's a very interesting BUT i think smart way to put,

1257
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 2: it and that is.

1258
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:16,120
Speaker 1: True BUT i HAVE i.

1259
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 2: LISTEN i went here's the Places i've lived zero to

1260
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 2: eighteen years, Old Kansas city eighteen to twenty, Two syracuse

1261
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:29,719
Speaker 2: for college twenty two to twenty, seven back To Kansas

1262
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 2: city twenty seven to thirty, two thirty One, houston thirty

1263
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 2: one to thirty, TWO, la and thirty two to Forty New.

1264
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 1: YORK.

1265
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:47,640
Speaker 2: I WHEN i first moved, HERE i did not like.

1266
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 2: IT i felt overwhelmed by. Choice it was, like there's

1267
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 2: so many, options there's, nothing there's so much, new there's nothing.

1268
01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 1: To do whatever it.

1269
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 2: IS i now feel, like having lived here for as

1270
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:05,879
Speaker 2: long AS i, have there are very very few cities

1271
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 2: in the WORLD i could ever live again Because i've.

1272
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 1: Become so spoiled by.

1273
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 2: The, food, theater, culture event options that, LIKE i think

1274
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Speaker 2: in THE, US i could live In la Or, vegas Maybe,

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Speaker 2: miami But miami would have to be like for retirement

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Speaker 2: and anywhere like ELSE i.

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Speaker 1: Go it just feels a LITTLE i don't know.

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Speaker 2: Slow now maybe Again i'm forty And i'm in the

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Speaker 2: midst of like the grind of my. Career maybe When

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Speaker 2: i'm Fifty i'll be, like, MAN i WANT i want something, different,

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Speaker 2: slower you know WHAT i? Mean, Whatever but after A

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Speaker 2: midwest kid that never thought he live In New. YORK

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Speaker 2: i now feel like this is probably where you, KNOW

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Speaker 2: i could live for a very very long. Time.

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Speaker 1: YEAH i going back to what you, said you felt,

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Speaker 1: overwhelmed and What Maverick harter, said there is No. Sunday

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Speaker 1: that is at the heart of Why i've always theorized

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Speaker 1: there are more affairs In northeast. Politics there is no

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Speaker 1: stepping off the. Treadmill the richest people In, California let's

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Speaker 1: go To. Monasita it's a one hour drive up the.

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Speaker 1: Road there's all every. Time it's. Amazing how often Like,

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Speaker 1: hollywood how often do you? Work you have a movie a?

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Speaker 1: Year like the industry In New york is, Paper Wall,

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Speaker 1: street venture. Capitalism it's art IN La it's all art and.

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Speaker 1: Creation that's a more joyful experience than trading. PAPER i,

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Speaker 1: mean think About West Palm. Beach is the richest area

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Speaker 1: in The, hamptons or the richest area is kind of

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Speaker 1: in The East. Coast the people that live there, litigation

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Speaker 1: the biggest. Attorneys they're fighting, constantly and you're On Wall

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Speaker 1: street without intensity and. Clients the richest people on The

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Speaker 1: West coast can live In Beverly. Hills they're in. Entertainment

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Speaker 1: they're they're IN i Mean, netflix and you, know like like.

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Speaker 2: A lot of what it, IS a lot of the

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Speaker 2: other group is tech in the.

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Speaker 1: Silicon that's. Creation that's a more joyful experience than fighting

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Speaker 1: people in court or. Fight So i've always, said a

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Speaker 1: fifty five year old In New york looks fifty. Nine

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Speaker 1: a fifty five year old guy IN la looks. Fifty

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Speaker 1: and there's a nine ten year swing. There In New.

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Speaker 1: York the more money you, make you buy a nicer.

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Speaker 1: Tie IN, la once you make, money you no longer

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Speaker 1: have to wear a. Tie it's a different, culture a

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Speaker 1: life when you're that's a great coward. Line when you're

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Speaker 1: rich IN. La you don't See Bob iger wearing a.

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Speaker 1: Tie you don't See Steve balmer wearing a. Tie Donald

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Speaker 1: trump always wore a. Tie Mike bloomberg always wears a.

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Speaker 1: Tie it's a different. Culture it's way more.

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Speaker 2: Intense, yeah well that ain't good for, me, buddy BECAUSE

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Speaker 2: i LOOKED i didn't look exactly great BEFORE i moved

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Speaker 2: To New.

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Speaker 1: York now you're, saying you, KNOW i, SAID I i talked.

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Speaker 2: For the first time, EVER i talked To i'd never

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Speaker 2: talked to him in, like actually we texted or. DMed

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Speaker 2: BUT i was on With levatar today and on the

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Speaker 2: show with him Was tony Really And i'd never talked To.

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Speaker 1: TONY i had.

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Speaker 2: ALWAYS i had, always you, know kind of admired him

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Speaker 2: From afar and one of THE i Gave tony a

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Speaker 2: very big compliment about kind of his running around the.

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Speaker 2: Horn but THEN i told, HIM i was, like with

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Speaker 2: all that, SAID i fervently believe that IF i had

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Speaker 2: gone through my, end because, oh this is what it,

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Speaker 2: was because he is a very positive person and kind

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Speaker 2: of exudes, positivity and they were giving me a hard

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Speaker 2: time for being a little more i don't, know jaded

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Speaker 2: or negative certain. Things AND i said to, Reality i'm,

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Speaker 2: like well, yeah. MAN i was, like when you walk

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Speaker 2: around for forty years or hour, old you are looking

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Speaker 2: like you do you think the world's fucking, great because

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Speaker 2: like you're.

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Speaker 1: Just everybody's nice to. You you're always a handsome.

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Speaker 2: GUY i was, like when you walk, around is nick?

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Speaker 2: Right you have a little bit of more of an

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Speaker 2: edge to, you don't. YOU i was, like we switch

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Speaker 2: bodies for a, MONTH i doubt you're quite as positive

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Speaker 2: as you are right.

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Speaker 1: Now, buddy you look like IF i would have said

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Speaker 1: in the history of, movies you would have been in a.

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Speaker 1: Movie you are built for uncut. Gems you look like

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Speaker 1: a guy who is behind the scenes going to a

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Speaker 1: jewelry store making. Bets you're on the, Go you've got to.

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Speaker 1: Smoke you, Are you're a little stressed. Out i'm a

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Speaker 1: little stressed.

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Speaker 2: Out i'm the you, KNOW i probably, have you, know

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Speaker 2: between five to ten thousand dollars in my, pocket but

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Speaker 2: it's also possible that's my total net, worth like you never,

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Speaker 2: know like there's, yeah, absolutely that's the, aesthetic not Only

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Speaker 2: i'm going, for it's the authentic.

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Speaker 1: One so thank you for. THAT i appreciate. It nice, job,

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Speaker 1: Buddy great to see. You talk to you, soon my.

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Speaker 1: Friend the volume