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Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron and Anian the

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Speaker 1: Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the world

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Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the

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Speaker 1: Sit down, Ronny in the Car Doctor at your service

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Speaker 1: I wonder where common sense went. I know I talked

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Speaker 1: in about three minutes. I wonder where common sense went.

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Speaker 1: It boggles my mind. Um. You know sometimes, and I've

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Speaker 1: collecting information and things to talk about on this radio show.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand eleven Honda Odyssey rolled into the shop two

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Speaker 1: days ago. You know, the typical Momy mobile. Two kids,

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Speaker 1: The air and the tires keeps going low, and the

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Speaker 1: I said, does that make sense to you? And she

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Speaker 1: She said, don't engineers have common sense? And while I

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Speaker 1: And what really got my dander up is the fact that,

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Speaker 1: and the danger that that situation represents. Never mind what

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Speaker 1: In this case, it was the right rear that had

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Speaker 1: And I liken that to the same conversation as the

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Speaker 1: Honda dealer. They can't diagnose tires that are losing air,

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Speaker 1: They walked around it. They put air in the tires

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Speaker 1: And that was it. I said, So nobody ever took

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Speaker 1: And then I had the brain storm, I said to her,

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Speaker 1: that mean you just drive a better vehicle than a Honda.

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Speaker 1: here nine zero. It's aggravating because this is like, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's just so angry. That was my rant. How did

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Speaker 1: I stayed calm? I ket my blood pressure down? Hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: speaking of raising blood pressure somewhere here in my pile

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Speaker 1: of notes. UM to thirty you gotta be. You have

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Speaker 1: in the news. Go google this. E p A seeks

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Speaker 1: to prohibit conversion of vehicles into race cars. So what

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Speaker 1: makes it into a hot rod, he's in violation. He's

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Speaker 1: out of compliance. The guy with the fifty five Chevy

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Speaker 1: In other words, the EPA is I was stepping up

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Speaker 1: And here's a paragraph that they tried to slip through

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Speaker 1: trying to modify something doesn't work. And when I asked Peter,

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Speaker 1: I think what he said to me was it's a

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Speaker 1: third you know, aftermarket equipment manufacturer and and and tuning

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Speaker 1: and wheels and tires and engine mods and all that

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Speaker 1: stuff is a thirty seven billion dollar business. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talking to Peter down around the bottom of the hour.

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Speaker 1: But I am here to take your calls at five

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Speaker 1: five zero nine zero running any of the car Doctor,

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Speaker 1: I'll return right after this. Loves, Hey, welcome back. Weren't

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Speaker 1: that stinks around here. Understand the control rooms having some

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Speaker 1: of my mind, I went, well, I guess this wipes

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Speaker 1: out NASCAR, And then I realized NASCAR are all purpose

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Speaker 1: built cars, tube frames, et cetera. But then I started

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Speaker 1: going back in my mind and I'm thinking, well, where's

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Speaker 1: the nearest example of a production vehicle that is modified

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Speaker 1: into a race car? And the first thing that came

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Speaker 1: to mind dirt track racing, right, the dirt track racers.

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Speaker 1: You're you're right, so you're telling me the guy that

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Speaker 1: takes that that seventy Camaro and you know runs it

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Speaker 1: as a as a street stock car, uh, you know

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Speaker 1: with its stock three fifty two barrel small block Chevy.

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Speaker 1: And that's it. So we're gonna just wipe out dirt

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Speaker 1: track racing all across America. And and that's what this

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Speaker 1: is against every make and model that is emission certified.

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Speaker 1: And my apologies for not knowing exactly when that emission

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Speaker 1: certification started, but virtually every vehicle on the road today

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Speaker 1: that is modified for for track use, um, would would

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Speaker 1: become illegal. And and there there's all kinds of finds

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Speaker 1: and and things that are in the law that would

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Speaker 1: um that would come into play. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: it matters at what point what year it's This is

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Speaker 1: a you know, if if the seventy two Chevy is

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Speaker 1: a violation in the seventy one is not. If the

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Speaker 1: Chevy is a violation and the ninety is not, I

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Speaker 1: think it's the principle. If they get this through at

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Speaker 1: some way, shape and level, what's next, then well it

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Speaker 1: it is unfair and unreasonable, um. And I think that uh,

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Speaker 1: it is time for us to send a message and

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Speaker 1: to ask the people that represent us two to eliminate

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Speaker 1: this unfair language. Now, what can we do. What can

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Speaker 1: the listeners do if they want to get involved, Well,

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Speaker 1: there's there are a lot of things, luckily that that

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Speaker 1: that are out there. There are something as simple as

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Speaker 1: going to seema dot org and joining the over hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand plus people who have already signed our petition. You

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Speaker 1: can reach out to your local elected official and with

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Speaker 1: a phone call or a letter and let them know.

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Speaker 1: There are all kinds of Facebook pages and other ways

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Speaker 1: to voice your opinions, but the best thing to do

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Speaker 1: is to to do something, and please start with our petition.

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Speaker 1: And I think I have to say that even if

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Speaker 1: you're not a person who watches a race, and if

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Speaker 1: you don't know what a race car is, I think

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Speaker 1: you have to realize, you know, from a perspective of

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Speaker 1: as an American, you're losing a freedom, You're losing a

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Speaker 1: liberty by allowing this to go through. And you always

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Speaker 1: have to ask yourself what's next, because in my mind,

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Speaker 1: the government's overstepping their bounds. Now you're you're absolutely right,

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Speaker 1: and not only they overstepping their bounds in the language

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Speaker 1: in this provision, which incidentally is buried in a Sage documents,

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Speaker 1: but the path that they're taking is questionable and and

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Speaker 1: really if you a reasonable person will raise an eyebrow

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Speaker 1: as to how this is is playing out. And we're

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Speaker 1: just grateful that we're representing this industry and can can

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Speaker 1: make an impact well. And then if this goes through

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Speaker 1: in my mind, does the you know is the hot

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Speaker 1: rotting is the cruising industry? Next the guy who you

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Speaker 1: know has the fifty five Chevy or the or the

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Speaker 1: or the or the sixty uh you know that cruises

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Speaker 1: the summer nights and and relives that era, you know,

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Speaker 1: the muscle car era of those cars. Next, and um,

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Speaker 1: you know, where's where's the limit? Peter, We appreciate the opportunity. Again,

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Speaker 1: the website off. The listeners want to get more information

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Speaker 1: about this siema dot org em a dot org as always, sir,

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Speaker 1: a pleasure. We won't make it four or five years

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Speaker 1: in between the next conversation. Let's stay in touch, all right,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. You're very welcome to take good

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Speaker 1: care of money and the car doctor. We are back

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Speaker 1: right after this. Don't say take my advice if you

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Speaker 1: don't think twice welcome back when I meanting in the

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Speaker 1: car doctor. I once once again thank Peter Matt Gilroy

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Speaker 1: from SEMA for taking the time. I know he's busy

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Speaker 1: out there today. He's in the midst of they were

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Speaker 1: actually working over time this weekend trying to solve this

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Speaker 1: problem with the e p A. So, um, this is

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Speaker 1: a big situation. If you want more information again about

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Speaker 1: what the e p A is trying to do to

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Speaker 1: how we, you know, approach and work on our cars

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Speaker 1: in terms of converting him into race cars and who

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Speaker 1: knows what's next, get out the SEMA dot org s

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Speaker 1: e m A dot org. Let's get over the phone.

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Speaker 1: Le's go over and talk to Emery in Maui, Hawaii. Emery,

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Speaker 1: I want to start this conversation by saying, it's let's

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Speaker 1: see what is it. It's it's a six degrees out

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Speaker 1: there today. So anytime we want to do a remote

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Speaker 1: in Hawaii, we're we're we're ready to come and join

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Speaker 1: you guys. You just say the word Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: car doctor, Sir, Emery is Emory there, h Emory emeryone surfing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's get over and talk to Canvas in Louisiana and

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Speaker 1: see what's going on here. Candice. Welcome to the car doctor.

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Speaker 1: How can I help? Oh? Hi, Great, Thanks guys. I

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Speaker 1: have a question. I have a GMC suburban with a

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Speaker 1: fine in it and it runs great, and I've been

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00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: using Lucas upper cylinder lubricant gas treatment and it's smoothed

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Speaker 1: out my idle real nice, and it has increased my

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Speaker 1: gas mileage tremendously. And I was just wondering if you

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Speaker 1: knew if there was any problem with using this product

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Speaker 1: every time I fill up my car. I haven't, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with the product per se, that exact product, Candice,

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Speaker 1: and I suspect it's because I think I think auto

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Speaker 1: repairs a regional phenomenon. I think if I divided the

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Speaker 1: country into seven sections, each one has its own set

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Speaker 1: of components and parts and things that are more readily

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Speaker 1: available than others, and particularly in problems that they face

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Speaker 1: because of environment and weather. Um In terms of Lucas overall, though,

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Speaker 1: we do use their trans additive in the shop and

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00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: their engine oil treatment in the shop from time to time,

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Speaker 1: and I've got to say that the stuff works well.

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Speaker 1: Lucas has an excellent reputation and I haven't encountered a

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Speaker 1: situation where somebody used the Lucas product and they had

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Speaker 1: an issue directly as a result of that product. So

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Speaker 1: you know, my only concern would be what do the

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Speaker 1: instructions on the bottle say. I can't imagine them saying

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Speaker 1: not to use it every treatment, every time you fill up,

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Speaker 1: but I can't imagine it being a problem. Do they

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Speaker 1: say anything specific in directions on the bottle itself? No,

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Speaker 1: they don't, And actually I've smelled it. It's just kind

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Speaker 1: of oily. It doesn't have anything like solving t in

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Speaker 1: it or anything like that. But the reason I use

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Speaker 1: it every time is because my gas mileage is just

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Speaker 1: so much better when I use it. So about a

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Speaker 1: month ago, I thought, you know, let me fill up

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Speaker 1: my tank and run my car without it, and my

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Speaker 1: just my car just sucked the gas out of there

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Speaker 1: just so quickly. When you're when you're measuring your fuel economy,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing it? Are you setting the odometer

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Speaker 1: and then doing the math when you put gallons in

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Speaker 1: or is it just on a sense of how fast

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Speaker 1: it disappears out of the tank. Well, my odometer isn't working, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: But I fell up my car once a month and

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Speaker 1: I drive it quite a bit every day, and without it,

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Speaker 1: I have to fill it up two three times a month. UM,

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Speaker 1: I kind of think, you know, you know me, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to be one for a scientific method. I think

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Speaker 1: without the odometer there, it's not a fair judgment on

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Speaker 1: whether or not your fuel economy is actually better. UM.

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Speaker 1: You know my understanding of most of the fuel treatments

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Speaker 1: on the market, and again I haven't encountered the Lucas,

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Speaker 1: but I've got to say it from this perspective, it's

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Speaker 1: there as a result for preventing carbon deposits build up

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Speaker 1: and to keep the rings lubricated in the in the

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Speaker 1: grooves and and not having issues with them sticking. So

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Speaker 1: you know, I probably stopped spending so much money on

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Speaker 1: the additive and quite honestly, get the otomiter fixed if

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Speaker 1: you could, because knowing how knowing what the mileage is

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Speaker 1: on the vehicle for oil change and maintenance, UM, would

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Speaker 1: probably be a big benefit in the future. And then

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Speaker 1: at least you can calculate your fuel economy directly. I

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Speaker 1: hope that doesn't for you, CANDUs, I'm on any of

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Speaker 1: the car Doctor. We are back right after this the

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Speaker 1: star I saw welcome back. Weren't naming the car doctor.

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Speaker 1: This is the kinder Gentler Doctor, Car Doctor Dr Love

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Speaker 1: episode the Valentine's Day edition of The Car Doctor. By

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Speaker 1: the wayf you know it, I was nice and calm

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Speaker 1: this hour. I opened the hour nice and calm, as

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00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 1: much as I wanted to yell about that. It also

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Speaker 1: helped the stuff we put in your water before here.

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Speaker 1: It was you guys. You guys definitely have subdued me

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Speaker 1: this hour. But um, it was nice to talk to

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Speaker 1: everybody on this Valentine's Day hour of The Car Doctor.

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Speaker 1: A couple of things, UM, if you get out to

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Speaker 1: the Car Doctor Facebook page, just want to make sure

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Speaker 1: you know there's more information about the ongoings with e

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Speaker 1: p A and deleting the prohibiting race car use, converting

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Speaker 1: cars into race cars. We've got a conversation there. We've

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Speaker 1: got some information UM about that. We've also got some

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00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 1: information interesting to note about. UM came across a recent

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Speaker 1: video and it's a study on the carbon footprint impact

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Speaker 1: electric vehicles versus gas vehicles. And it's interesting to note

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Speaker 1: that the electric vehicle has a higher carbon footprint than

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Speaker 1: the gas vehicle, Like, go figure that out. And yet

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Speaker 1: we're we're supporting this and the only way we make

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Speaker 1: electric vehicles work in this country is because our tax

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Speaker 1: dollars are going to directly support it. We're paying people

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Speaker 1: to drive electric vehicles in a sense because um, we're

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Speaker 1: trying to clean up the year, but yet we're not

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Speaker 1: in the long run. Makes a lot of sense, right

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Speaker 1: as much as the e p A ruling. So I

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Speaker 1: want to get that out of the way. Also, I

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Speaker 1: want to remind you that coming up February eighteenth, February eighteenth, Tom,

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Speaker 1: you know what February eighteenth is, real quick, No, February

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Speaker 1: eighteenth is National Battery Day. There you go, and the

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Speaker 1: folks over at Mini Kei, the car care experts at

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Speaker 1: Mini Key. I want to make everybody aware that February

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Speaker 1: eighteenth is National Battery Day and if your car won't start,

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Speaker 1: now the time to get in there and do a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a diagnosis and get more information at

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Speaker 1: mini key dot com. And then, last, but not least,

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Speaker 1: it's Valentine's Day car Star. The folks at car Star

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Speaker 1: car star dot com want to talk to you about

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Speaker 1: why you love your car. We thought it would be

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Speaker 1: a nice commentary on Valencetine's Day because you know how

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Speaker 1: much everybody loves their car and how important them they

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Speaker 1: are to everybody here in America. So car star dot

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