1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program. As we are 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: at Radio Row NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis, and it's 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: so great to be here as we've got a bunch 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: of great shows coming your way the next few days 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: with guests including but not limited to, Daniel Jeremiah from 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: the NFL Network, Greg co Sell from NFL Films, James 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: Palmer from NFL Network. He will be with us a 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: little bit later on today, but let's start the show 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: right here, Johnny Harris, and I welcome in Nick Cassario, 10 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: general manager your Houston Texans. You've heard of him. Nick. 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: How's it going better than I'm here? Yeah, that's true. 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,319 Speaker 1: And we're gonna address this right now because I want 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,959 Speaker 1: people to know this. I wore the vest because it's 14 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: Nick Cassario day at the Combine. What do you have 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: to say for yourself not wearing a vest. I'm saying 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: I left it in my closet. I wore on the 17 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: plane last night. I thought I would be warm enough 18 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: with their long sleeves that I have on. So I 19 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: know that's an important piece of information to Texans Nation 20 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: out there. So two years ago, it's your first offseason 21 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: for the Texans and no combine. The last two years 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: you have the combine. How is it different then, and 23 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: how is your routine changed or adjusted? Yeah, it's you're 24 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: still accumulating information that year. We just had to go 25 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: about it a different way. So this is an opportunity 26 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: for I would say more in person dialogue and discussion, 27 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: not only the college players, but essentially every agent is 28 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: here as well. So as you work towards for agency, 29 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: you know, you start to have some I would say, 30 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: initial discussions and dialogue with some different folks. Nothing really 31 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: comes to fruition until you know that second week or 32 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: whatever it is in March. So this is more opportunity 33 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: for everybody to kind of be in one spot. So 34 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: that's probably the biggest change from what happened at first 35 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: year to kind of where we are now. Nick, I 36 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: don't know how often you came to it combines when 37 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: you were with New England. I would imagine he came 38 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: to a few. But the interview process. We're talking with 39 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: Dave mckinnis and he was talking about how things have changed, 40 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: and I thought about the interview process because he said 41 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: it used to be the wild You a part of that. 42 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, how is it, how is it better or 43 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: behind the scenes totally different. So we were in the 44 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: train station, so essentially each team still had a room, 45 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: but really it was just a corridor and there was 46 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: no time limits, so you could really grab people as 47 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 1: they were walking through the hallway. So if you saw 48 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: a player you wanted to talk to the player like, 49 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: you literally would grab them into your room. And you 50 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: could have I don't know, fifty people in your room 51 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: at the same time. So whether it was multiple players, 52 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: multiple staff members, however many you could fit in, I mean, 53 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: it was chaos, and then you'd have people knocking on 54 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: the door and they want to grab them around a corner. 55 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: So the best thing of combined is really normalized it 56 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: and say, okay, everybody has a room. They're going to 57 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: kind of organize it. They put it in fifteen twenty 58 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: minute blocks. They blow the horn, so then they go 59 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 1: from room to room. So now we've transitioned out of 60 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: the train station and everybody has a suite and Lucas 61 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: oil same time parameters. You have some time parameters in place, 62 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: so you have twenty minutes. Now we actually have less 63 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: players that we can speak to. Us going from sixty 64 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: to forty five where you can actually do formal interview 65 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: and then you have the informal that that really hasn't changed. 66 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: So it's certainly evolved. Um, you know, the combine has 67 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: done a great job at that. But going back to 68 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: what coach said, absolutely was the case. It was you 69 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: literally were grabbing play and you'd have coaches I mean 70 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: getting stances or ask question I mean literally it was 71 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: it was like you went to a rave like literally, 72 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: I mean that's what it was. So thankfully sanity has prevailed, um, 73 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: and everybody's productive with their time. I don't know I 74 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: was getting into the rave thing. Nick. Can you give 75 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: us an example of a question you might ask during 76 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: one of those interviews your prospects. What are you gonna ask? Yes, Um, 77 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: if there's some introductory things you want to try to 78 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: go through most of the background we have on the player, 79 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: but you may ask a football specific question when you 80 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: start talking about, Hey, what happened on this player? I 81 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: was watching this game and on this particular play, this 82 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: is what happened. Can you articulate your thoughts or you 83 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: can articulate your role what happened on the play, or 84 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: give us an example, people of your in season routine 85 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: so post you know. So those are some of the 86 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: things that you're trying to get information from the player, 87 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: just kind of see how they think, how they process, 88 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: what do they prioritize, what's important from a football standpoint 89 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: when you're watching, when we're watching prospects, if you see 90 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: something happen, we don't really know what they're being told 91 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: or what they're being coach, or what happens on the play, 92 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: so they might be able to shed some light. Well, 93 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: on this play, we were trying to do this and 94 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: the receiver missed this, so it forced us to do 95 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: something else. So those are the types of things you 96 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: just in terms of the information gathering process. That's what 97 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: we're really all here to do. So you're just trying 98 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: to get clarity so you have a clear picture and 99 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: a vision at the end when we have our profile 100 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: on the player, like we have all of our questions answered. Nick, 101 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: you talked about the number of players you can interview here. 102 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: Obviously there's a number that you can have. You're talking 103 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: about the thirty visits and all that, But if there's 104 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: somebody that you want to interview at some point, they 105 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: don't fall into either one of those buckets, how do 106 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: you go about getting the information and having an interview 107 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: with a player at that point. Yeah, so you can 108 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: always go visit a player on campus, but for their 109 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: pro day if you need to spend some time there, 110 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: and then you're allowed out basically three individualized zooms up 111 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: to an hour with a particular prospect. So if a 112 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: position coach needs to follow up or spend more time 113 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: they can do. They can only do one a week. 114 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: But you have opportunities in different check joints. So then 115 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: we have the players that will bring into NRG. So 116 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: you're allowed thirty, but then there's some also some players 117 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: that qualify as sort of local candidates, so you might 118 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 1: be able to go beyond thirty even though you're you're 119 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: still staying within the parameters from a compliance standpoint. So 120 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: it's any question you have to get answered, like this 121 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: is your opportunity between now and the end of April, 122 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: Like you better get it answered so that when you're 123 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: making a pick on the player, you have much readily 124 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: available information so you can make the very thoughtful decision. 125 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: You know, for the organization. What's the best drill if 126 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:50,119 Speaker 1: there is one to evaluate a player regardless of position group. 127 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: This one for the offensive line will tell you more 128 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: than you more more than any other drill for an 129 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: offensive lineman or a dB or whoever it might be. Yeah, 130 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: they've modified actually some of the offense line drills and 131 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: make a little more realistic. I think one of the 132 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: best drills that they run and it really works on 133 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: both sides. The ball is the gauntlet drill, so we're 134 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: can actually see a guy run and catch at full speed. 135 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: So they do it for offensive skill players and then 136 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: the defensive skill players. They just when they catch it, 137 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: one scores a touchdown, the other one scores a touchdown 138 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 1: going the other way. But hand eye coordination, adjustment, body control, 139 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: those types of things like, that's a drill. I would say, 140 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: when you watch that drill, you can definitely see some 141 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: things as it pertains to their individual skill set. As 142 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: you're here at the combine. You mentioned a little bit 143 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: interviews all right, night correct? So hard? How do you 144 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: is that? How it works until the workouts start essentially 145 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: the interviews in the evening, so you call it seven 146 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: to eleven little block whatever the time is, and then 147 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: is it tomorrow or the day after, there's a morning 148 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: interview component. Then you have a little bit of break 149 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: and then you finish up in the evening, and then 150 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: at some point the individual workout drills will get sprinkled in. 151 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: So at that point, Nick, obviously the prospects are the 152 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: big thing here, but you have so much to take 153 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: care of because new league year starts in a couple 154 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: of weeks. You talked about all the agents obviously are 155 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: free agents on the Texans are free agents you might 156 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: want to talk to. How do you compartmentalize kind of 157 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: all the time to make sure that you hit all 158 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: those bases in your rule as a general manager, the 159 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: best thing you can do is just try to stay 160 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: organized and be very purposeful. You know, you can't talk 161 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: to everybody. You're not gonna want to talk to everybody. 162 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: Who are the people that you really need to talk 163 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: to or want to talk to? Understanding, when we leave Indy, 164 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of follow up work that's 165 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: done next week, So say, the focus this week is 166 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: kind of on the college players. There's some pro free 167 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: agency discussion, all right. When we get back from Indy, 168 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: it'll be really free agency prep. Next week. We'll actually 169 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: start to bring some of the draft prospects into NRG 170 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: here throughout the course of March, not necessarily wait until April. 171 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: So you just have to stay organized. You have to 172 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: prioritize what do we really need, who do I really 173 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: need to talk to, and then just make sure you 174 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: get the information that is required. What about the rodeo? 175 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: What do you tell them about that? Until I tell 176 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: them to avoid the dining hall because the entire rodeo 177 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: staff is in there eating. Yeah, but the food's a 178 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: little different. It doesn't have the lad touch on that, 179 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: that's for sure. Oh gosh, it's so good. Nick as 180 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: Sario joining us at the combine. Medical information, how much 181 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: of it is shared and how much is exclusive? We 182 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: found out this guy's a hang now al and we're 183 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: not gonna tell anybody. Does that happen? What can you tell? Yeah, 184 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: everybody's really getting the same information from the combine. So 185 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: how you grade that, how you interpret it? That's a 186 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: team by team decision, but essentially everybody's getting the same 187 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: medical information. How you interpret it, maybe it's a little 188 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: bit different from team to team, but for the most part, 189 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: the majority of all you're gonna see it the same way. 190 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: Will grade the players medically, just like we grade them 191 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: for what they do on the field. We'll have a 192 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: medical grade which will go into a kind of their profile. 193 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: Doesn't necessarily disqualify a player, It just means that, okay, 194 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: this player falls into this category. You just have to 195 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: be alert. And then if the player does have an injury, 196 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: what's the likelihood for recovery, what's the prognosis when he's 197 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: going to be available as a kind of a normal 198 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: recovery or is this an injury that could potentially prevent 199 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: him from being on a field. So, but in terms 200 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: of the individual players here, I don't gonna say everybody's 201 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: kind of sharing information because it's all thirty two. Teams 202 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: have their training staff, have their doctors here, So everybody's 203 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,719 Speaker 1: kind of getting the same information. The interpretation of it 204 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit different. Nick as it pertains to 205 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty two. It's hard to look back, but 206 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: you've got a new coaching staff that may want to 207 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 1: get up to speed on certain players, and that now 208 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: the coaching staff is complete, how's the evaluation gone from 209 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: your angle and from theirs to try and figure out, Okay, 210 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: what's here, what's staying here, what's not and where do 211 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: we need to go and where our priorities going forward? No, 212 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: you said, if that's essentially what we've done here the 213 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: last few weeks. So give the new staff an opportunity 214 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: evaluate our players, evaluate our team. What's your take on 215 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: that player? How do you see that player? Here are 216 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: the players that are under contract, and here are the 217 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: players that are free agents. Are there players that we're 218 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: gonna want to resign? Are you interested in? Are they 219 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: the right fit? So we want their input, we want 220 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: their evaluation. I mean, it's a two way street. It's 221 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: a two way share of information. So regardless of what 222 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: I think our thought, Okay, we're kind of starting over, 223 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: So take the information. Okay, here's some thoughts. All right, 224 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: what do you guys think? What does Demiko think? Ultimately 225 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: that's the most important thing. And then ultimately arrive at 226 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: an endpoint and once you make a decision, it's a Houston, 227 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: Texan decision, and then we're all going to be collectively 228 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: aligned on it. Nick, I think it's a federal law 229 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: that media must speculate on trades. Yeah, we won't do 230 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: that law. But when do those conversations start up? How 231 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: do they happen? I know it's got to be different 232 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: every time every year, But are the seeds planted and 233 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: then maybe something gets pulled later? How do you work? Yeah, 234 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: I think as you get a little bit closer here 235 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: to the start of the league year, you might start 236 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: to see some things come to fruition. So kind of 237 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: the early stages. Once a new league year starts, you'll 238 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: probably have a little bit more player movement, and then 239 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: that'll be one component. And then as we get a 240 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: little bit closer to the draft, kind of a little 241 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: bit into April, you may have some discussions and I'm jockeying, 242 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: but there's really no timetable on it. Mark I would say, 243 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: is there are a time that's ever too early? Not necessarily, 244 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: But I think as you get closer to the new 245 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: league year, you start to see some of that come 246 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: to fruition a little bit more. I know you don't 247 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: know this, but I'm about to alert you. You are 248 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: going to trade a second and a third to move 249 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: up to number one. I know you didn't know what 250 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: we're doing. That's what you're doing. That's why I'm here. Yeah, yeah, 251 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: I you know, just making sure. Yeah, that's that's been 252 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: out there among those lines. You're gonna see a lot 253 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: of that. That's where I'm going. You're gonna see a 254 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: lot of that. And there's a lot of noise about 255 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: all that, whether trades or players you sign, or extensions 256 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: and all that. How do you sort of block all 257 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: that noise out and kind of make sure that the 258 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: players the prospects know the real deal as opposed to 259 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: what might be out in our world, the media world. 260 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 1: We're here about trades and all this kind of stuff. Yeah, 261 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's the word in which we live. 262 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: So trying to maintain open lines of communication and try 263 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,599 Speaker 1: to communicate on it and openly with the players that 264 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: there's a particular situation, and just stay disciplined in your approach. 265 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: You know, we can't necessarily worry about what are some 266 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: of the things that are going on externally, what's said, 267 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: what's said, what source said this? I mean, to your point, John, 268 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: a lot of this is speculation, a lot of its noise. 269 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: So we'll arrive at an endpoint and when it's time 270 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: to make a decision, we'll be prepared to make a decision. 271 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: Nick combined future, can you do this event in another place? 272 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: I guess you could always do something in another place, 273 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: but your thoughts on the prospect of moving it. It's 274 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: this year and next year and who knows where it 275 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: goes from there. Yeah, and I've said this, you know, privately, 276 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: and I'll say it publicly. I think what Indianapolis does 277 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 1: to accommodate the teams from a combine perspective is awesome. 278 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: Just logistically, from an operational perspective, it works very well. 279 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 1: If there is an adjustment that's made at some point, 280 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: I think teams will adjust in that. But I mean, honestly, 281 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: they can't probably do it any better another City'd be 282 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: hard to imagine another city doing this event better than 283 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: the way Indianapolis does it. So from the location of 284 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: the hospital, the way the hotels are situated, the the dome, 285 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: the proximity of everything, and like you'd literally get from 286 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: one hotel to inside the stadium without going outdoors. So 287 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: just it works. It works on a lot of levels. 288 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: So I think everybody is certainly comfortable. If there's an 289 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: adjustment that's made at some point, then we'll have to 290 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: adjust an adapt accordingly. Well, if you had to go outside, 291 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: maybe you could wear the vest at that point. I mean, 292 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: the vest will definitely be adorned here at some point. 293 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: So you're doing a lot of shows other than us. Yes, 294 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: this is the only show that matters, the one that 295 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: matters right here. But do you have a favorite national 296 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: show to go on? I mean, what is it light on? 297 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: Too many shows? Yeah? I've actually gone out with Florida 298 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: and SIMS back to back years, So I don't think 299 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: anybody thought that would ever happen. But no, I like 300 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: Chris and I worked together actually, so we were together. 301 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: So um, you know, Mice done a great job kind 302 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: of developing his platform, and you know he has a voice, 303 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: so you know, always happen to go on and visit 304 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: with those guys. All right, two at twelve, tell us 305 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: what's going to happen two and twelve. Oh, that's assuming 306 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: we're picking it to him. I thought you just had 307 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,599 Speaker 1: to make a trade, Johnny, what are you doing? And 308 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: it's already happen one to twelve, Nick, thanks a lot 309 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: for joining us. Thanks fellas. All right, there's the GM 310 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: of your Texans, Nick Kasserio. Now let's get into some 311 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: nuances of what is going on here behind the scenes 312 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: and with coaches and gms talking to various media members 313 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: on one of them is James Palmer, from NFL Network. 314 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: What does he have to say about what he's been 315 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: hearing so far? It's all coming up here on Texans Radio. 316 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: So great to have you listening. Mark Vandermayer, John Harris 317 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: with you at the NFL Scouting Combine. And as promised, 318 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: let's get to our good buddy, James Palmer. And by 319 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 1: the way, we're gonna have before we get to you, James, 320 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna have Demiko Ryan's on the show to lead 321 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: off tomorrow. Also Daniel Jeremiah, Greg Coach Sell other guests 322 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: that will be appearing this week. But here's James Palmer, 323 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: NFL Network and former CSN Houston employee, and you know 324 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: the city. Well, first of all, it's great to see 325 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: you for coming aboard here. We just start off up 326 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: with Mark's picture, the forty year picture. Yes, yes, go ahead, 327 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: I'd like to. I want to hear your thoughts on 328 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: this listen. I don't know how many people, let's see, 329 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how many people I follow on Twitter. Um, 330 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the exact number is. It's eight 331 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety one people right scrolling through that timeline. 332 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: That was the best tweet I had seen in a 333 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: number of days sitting next to me on the plane. 334 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: He looks at me and he shows it to me 335 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: and says, should I tweet this? And I was like, 336 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: without hesitation, well, like you probably used some bad words 337 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: to emphasize that. Yes part of it, like yes you 338 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: put that out there. My fome my forty year of 339 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: like good board look nothing like that was a song? 340 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: Were you playing? It's an original? Probably because that was 341 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: from a that was from a gig we did. It 342 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: was like this battle of the bands and there was 343 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: a pro photographer there. My mother actually paid for a picture. 344 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: She said, you're gonna thank the one day, and I 345 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: thank her because she's right. At the time, I thought 346 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: I don't care about a picture, but now I care. 347 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: I was eighteen years old when I took that fteen 348 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: years old. It was an original and it was this 349 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: game sounds like American idol. He will you'll be singing today, 350 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: I will be singing. I can give you a set list. 351 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: Probably we played originals. We wouldn't mess around. It's like 352 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: cover as well. We played a few police songs. That 353 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: was about it. So and I didn't sing those. That 354 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: was the basis singing those. I sang my songs low range. 355 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: I can still, I can see Marco. I only play 356 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: my own. I'm not singing your cover. You can sing 357 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: every bridge. So do you use a line from office space, James? 358 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: What do you do here? What do you do here 359 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: at the combine? What's the job description for this week? James? So, 360 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: right now on NFL Network, we're in the midst of 361 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, six to eight hours of live television, 362 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: and I'm more or less run around like an idiot, uh, 363 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: stalking every head coach, general manager to get like some 364 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: sort of information about like a day like today is 365 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: a lot of Hey are you are you gonna tag 366 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: so and so? What's the chances of a long term 367 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: deal with blank? Are you gonna release so? And then 368 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: run onto NFL Network? Gonna be like to one of 369 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: the producers sitting by our stage, Hey, I got good 370 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: stuff with you know, say we're talking Texans. I got 371 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: good stuff with with the Texans. Throw me on right now. 372 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: Asked me about blank and blank? And so it's just 373 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: kind of that, like it's really kind of fun because 374 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: it's like all of us with our hair on fire 375 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: over there going like hey, you know, like Nick just 376 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: came off the podium, or you know, Brett Feach from 377 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: the chief just came off the podium. Might trying to 378 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: grab them on the side and see what they want 379 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 1: to do with Orlando Brown at left tackle, like you know, 380 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: and and and try to get those little side conversations 381 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: to kind of bring fans a ton of like transactional 382 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: maybe uh, I don't know, nuggets nuggets and maybe like 383 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: predictions of what we may see coming up with all 384 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: these these deadlines. It's less, honestly today about the actual draft, 385 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: more about the NFL. Sure. Yeah, and along those lines, James, 386 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: how because you were in that role and people know 387 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: you're in that role, do you have people that are 388 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: reticent to talk to you because they're worried about what 389 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: could get out there? I mean, does that happen at all? 390 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: I mean I think they know why you're approaching them, 391 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: So if they don't want you to they don't want 392 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: you to know. Yeah, I mean, but it's it is 393 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: something like, you know, say there is a particular player 394 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: that a team is going to have to do an 395 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: extension with. I mentioned the Chiefs. This isn't a direct example, 396 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: but like they're probably gonna have to pay Chris Jones 397 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: an astronomical number this offseason, and probably Chris deserves it, 398 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: and so the GM or the head coach or the 399 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: scout or whoever it is, Hey, what are you hearing 400 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: about the market of other detach? Like what do you 401 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: what do you think other teams would pay him in 402 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: the open market. There's a lot of the exchanging of information, 403 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: so everybody can kind of be a little bit more informed, 404 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: so hopefully they make the best decision possible. Like, there's 405 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 1: a lot of times there's guys in this league that 406 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: think I'm worth blank and the GM and that team's like, 407 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: I don't think you are. Hey, James, do other teams 408 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: value him at this? And it's like no, It's like, oh, okay, 409 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: now I know that that you know that number is 410 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: probably something we shouldn't even mess around with, right, James 411 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: Palmer joining us on Texans Radio. All right, so your 412 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: thoughts on the Texans situation with the second pick of 413 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: the draft and number twelve as well, And this is 414 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: pre free agency, but what are you thinking? From where 415 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: you said, James, I think, honestly, Mark, I really do 416 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: think like this. I don't know if it's gonna quite 417 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: the wins. This is like one of the very few 418 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: teams that the league is really excited to watch this offseason. No, lie, 419 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: Like it's just an interesting, fun offseason ahead for the 420 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 1: Houston Texans. And I think just I think it's for 421 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: a few reasons. One the league, the consensus is last 422 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: year's draft class was really good, and they think it's 423 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: gonna be a class to keep your eye on for 424 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: several years. Love, he's not with the team anymore, but 425 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: him playing those guys, all the snaps that they played 426 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: this past year, I think it's going to really benefit Demiko. 427 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: And that was something that Love you wanted to do 428 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: from the jump, with guys like Stingley and you know, 429 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: Petrie and all those guys. I think that plays a part. 430 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: I think Demico coming home plays a massive part. I 431 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: mean just massive. The consensus around the league is this, 432 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: like the two best hires in the league were Demco 433 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: Ryans and Frank Wright. Like those were the two best 434 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: head coaching hires this offseason. And I think to steer 435 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: it to Frank for a second. You look what getting 436 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: the right head coach does for the rest of the 437 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 1: staff can change everything they gave Frank car Blanche for like, 438 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: David Tepper was like, what do you want to spend 439 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: on your staff? Because I don't really care? Yeah, Blanche, 440 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: he essentially did. I mean, I'm not saying blank, but 441 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: like it's like it's a lot of cash to put 442 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: that staff together. And you look at what he's putting 443 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: together in Caroline and you're like, WHOA, that's a good staff. 444 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: It's it's why people are looking at them and looking 445 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 1: at and looking at Houston because of Demico in the 446 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,959 Speaker 1: way players want to play for him and you have 447 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: free agent money and talking to some people in San Francisco, 448 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: it's like, I wouldn't be surprised if some guys on 449 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: both side of the ball would want to come down 450 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: to Houston to play for Demiko. He's that loved and 451 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: they have money. It's that's when those are all reasons 452 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: why people are interested in seeing Houston as well as 453 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: they haven't even put a quarterback in play yet and 454 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: all that excitement I mentioned is already there. Yeah. Jordan 455 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: Poyer's one of those that said, Hey, I want to 456 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: go play where they don't take half my check because 457 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 1: of state Texans. Well I got the state for you now. 458 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: I don't think that's the kind of signing that Texans 459 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: should make, even though I love Jordan Poyer, just I 460 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: think dollars need to be spending a smart and intelligent way. 461 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: It's going to happen. So let's talk about that quarterback situation, 462 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 1: because right now there's one on campus, if you will, 463 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: just one. We all know that's Davis Mills sitting with 464 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 1: number two in the draft, but there are also a 465 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: lot of veteran quarterbacks that are out there. I don't 466 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: know that they're into Lamar Jackson sweepstakes, if there is one, 467 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: all that kind of thing. I mean, not the name 468 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: of the guy, but just the theory and the thought 469 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: of how the Texans attacked the quarterback position. I mean, 470 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: I know that there are a lot of discussions in 471 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: the coaching hiring process about, hey, what's your plan at 472 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: number two? What would be your plan franchise quarterback moving forward? 473 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: And a lot of those conversations, from my understanding, were 474 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: about getting your quarterback through the draft. I mean, I 475 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: don't think I'm telling anything out of school of everybody 476 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 1: really kind of assumes that quarterback is very much in 477 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: play and the route at number two. But I think Johnny. 478 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: The interesting part is, like we were all just talking about, 479 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: these guys are very different, very different in terms of 480 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: how they play the quarterback position, these quarterbacks in the 481 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: top of this draft, and in the way that they 482 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: are built specifically as well. But also I thought Nick 483 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 1: said something really interesting to all of us this morning 484 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: where he used the Eagles as an example and kind 485 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: of went like, you build your offense specifically for who 486 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: you get, which makes me believe maybe we're not set 487 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: on just one guy, because if you can move your 488 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: offense to that quarterback strengths, then you can have success. Obviously, 489 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: we all saw how different Phillis' offense is compared to 490 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: really almost anybody's because they built to all of Jalen 491 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: hurt strengths, and obviously he played out of his mind 492 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: and they've had a very successful offense. So I do 493 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: think there's a malleable process to number two. I do 494 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: believe I don't see him going up to one. I'm 495 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: just curious and I want your guys take on this. 496 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: What would be the vibe in Houston if the Colts 497 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: who they're General manager Chris Ballard has gone on record 498 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: multiple times saying if it's the quarterback you love, you 499 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: move heaven and Earth to get him, and Jim Marsay 500 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: has said it clearly that he believes that's Bryce Young. 501 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: The Colts trade up to one and jump ahead of 502 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: the Texans and say, take Bryce Young, what would be 503 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 1: the mood in Houston Texans fans who would be cursing 504 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: Rodney Thomas who should have had a pick on that 505 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: fourth and twenty path by David Texas fans. There'll be 506 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: a lot of fans looking like cal McNair's face was 507 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,239 Speaker 1: when I saw go up on the screen after the 508 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: end of that game. Just happened. No matter what. I 509 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: don't think there was anybody in that building that wasn't stunned. 510 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: Exactly on both sides in the stadium, nobody, everybody was stunned, 511 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: like uh, I mean, we all stunned at that moment. 512 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: To your point, James, I do think it would be. 513 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: It's interesting because I felt like two three weeks ago 514 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: it was Jackson's better get a quarterback and I needed 515 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: to be Bryce Young or I'm I'm I'm rioting. And 516 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: I feel like that's loosened a little bit. I feel 517 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: like that's changed a little bit and it'll probably ride 518 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: the wave. Um, but look, we we want we want 519 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: a young, exciting quarterback in that building that we can 520 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: get excited about. But you know, I've said this about 521 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: eighty eight from Georgia. I think he's a transcendent talent 522 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: and I got no problems if that that's art. That 523 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: would be a Jeffrey Simmons that we would have. I 524 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 1: wouldn't mind him at too. I totally agree with you 525 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: in that sense. And you know who I think also 526 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: agrees with that is Demiko Ryans. I really do it 527 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: not just because he's a defensive coach. I think it's 528 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: because he's a coach that just went to the NFC 529 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: Championship with Brock Purdy and understands the value of all 530 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: fifty three players on the roster. I know this is 531 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: a quarterback league. We all are not, you know, denying 532 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: that fact by any means. But I think we saw 533 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: very clearly how good of a roster the forty nine 534 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: ers had from top to bottom, and any quarterback they 535 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: plugged in. Now that's part Kyle Shanahan and coaching and 536 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: Demiko and coaching. So Demiko is part of that too. 537 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: They could win with a variety of quarterbacks. I think 538 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: Demiko knows where the Texans are with the number of 539 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: picks they have, the cap space that they have, you're 540 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: right if that's your pike at two. I don't think 541 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: Texans fans should be all that upset. I think they 542 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: just have to know and what point there was a 543 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: plan it has to be And as long as they 544 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: feel that there's a good plan in place, I think 545 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: they'll be okay. We'll see how it goes. Demiko. Everybody's 546 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: in love with there, and why not? Of course you 547 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: would be James Palmer joining us NFL network, all right. 548 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 1: Denver's coming into NRG Stadium this year, and I know 549 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: you're very familiar with their work. You're based in Denver. 550 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 1: Even cover them very much? You don't cover them very much, 551 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: but I know now the last seven years I have 552 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,159 Speaker 1: not covered them much. But you're probably going to go 553 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: back to that facility at some point soon because Sean 554 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: Payton is there and Russell Wilson either no longer has 555 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: an office or something like. That office has gone. All right, 556 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: right now the office is parking spot's gone. How's that 557 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: going to play out in Denver? I'm interested to see 558 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: what Sean can do because I I for everything that 559 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: you know, anybody can say about Sean in terms of 560 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: how he's made up or how he's wired and the 561 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: micromanaging some people say, other people say it's attention to detail. 562 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: I think on the field, I don't know if there's 563 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: a better on the field teacher than Sean Payton. I 564 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: mean it's he is incredible in practice on the field, 565 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: I think he is what they need um in terms 566 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: of an intensity level that's been lacking. I'm not gonna 567 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: lie that this past training camp was like a country club. 568 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: I mean it was like half days, we're gonna stay fresh, 569 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 1: lots of mental reps. And if you've ever been to 570 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: a training camp practice in New Orleans, when Sean has 571 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: those guys competing, oh my gosh, I mean they go 572 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: at it in practice. Those yeah, exactly, and so they 573 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: go at it. I think it's necessary. Was we talked 574 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: about staffs. I've had some some scouts and coaches I 575 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: know from other teams just come up to me like 576 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 1: I really liked Sean staff. I really do. And it's 577 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: a lot of what he's doing with that staff is 578 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: what he's gotten from Bill Parcels, which is like I 579 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: like to be around younger coaches. They bring a lot 580 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: of energy they bring. He brings in Davis Webb twenty 581 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: eight years old. He's gonna be coaching thirty four year 582 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: old Russell Wilson as his quarterbacks coach. I mean, I 583 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: don't know. Day Ball told me the other day, he's like, 584 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: he's gonna blow it out of the water. He's gonna 585 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: crush it. He could have been he could have been 586 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: a coach a year before and stayed in Buffalo and 587 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: opted to play one more season and keep playing for 588 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 1: a year. And now he joked he throws a touchdown 589 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: pass in his last pass as an NFL player and 590 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,880 Speaker 1: comes to quarterback coach the next year. And I think 591 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: Sean has established a pretty neat staff and that stuff 592 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: with Mike Westoff and some of the guys that are 593 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: part of that advanced Joseph returns as the DC. It's 594 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: an interesting staff there. But everybody's just gonna see what 595 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,199 Speaker 1: John Peyton can do with Russell Wilson. And in my 596 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: personal opinion, I think we all should look at Pete 597 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: Carroll and say, Pete, I think you were right to 598 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: not let Russ Cook. I think the way you guys 599 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: built that was for wins and success for everybody involved. 600 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's out of school to say 601 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,719 Speaker 1: to Russ. If you're Sean Payton in twenty I think 602 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: it was seventeen, they went to Drew Brees and we're like, 603 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: why don't we limit you to do this, this, and this? 604 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: And they were incredible and Drew was I think some 605 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: people look at the word limit and go like, well, 606 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: then he's not he can't do certain things. It's like, no, 607 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: what's most successful for the entire organization. And that goes 608 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: back to what Nick saying in terms of Philly and 609 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: what they'd like to do in Houston. You build your 610 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: offense to your team's strengths. Don't make guys do things 611 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: they can't do, and I think you're more successful. We'll 612 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: see if Sean can do that. What I do know, 613 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: uh is Russ is very open to being coached very 614 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: hard this offseason and getting things back on track. Yeah, 615 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: no doubt thee That's what this is all about. Tennessee 616 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: Titans offensive coordinator. He's gonna be a head coach. We 617 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: love TK he you know what we always we would 618 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: often get that head coaching vibe from him, but it 619 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,479 Speaker 1: never got it never really got cooked in Houston. Now, 620 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: Watson led the league in passing that twenty twenty season, 621 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: but they didn't score a lot of points, but who knows. 622 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: And I wish him success, but not really because so 623 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: I can't have that. Well, I'm to talking about a 624 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: team and that's outside of division, and I know you 625 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time with because they just kept 626 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: winning and winning and then of course won the Super Bowl. 627 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: So MA ask a two part question, maybe related, maybe not. 628 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: Number one very simply put, how good is Patrick Mahomes 629 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 1: and the things you've seen him do and how much 630 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: has he grown from that? Be comment and kind of 631 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: a question. They don't win a super Bowl without their 632 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: last two draft classes because twenty twenty one reset the 633 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: offensive line in twenty twenty two brought them Isaiah Pacheco 634 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: and McDuffie and everything else. That draft class was unbelievable 635 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: the last two years and it really put them in 636 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: a position to win. And they don't win it without Mahomes. 637 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: But Mahomes I don't think wins it without those draft classes. 638 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: Your thoughts, I think Bret Veach might be one of 639 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: the more underrated general managers in this league, mainly because 640 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: of the history that we perceive Andy Reid to have 641 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: in terms of power in a building, in terms of 642 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 1: really making the decisions, Bret Veach is making the call 643 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: and all these. First of all, Bretveach is the one 644 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: who pounded the table before he was even I think 645 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: actually general manager for Patrick Mahomes. He was the one 646 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: in the building who would not shut up saying we 647 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: need to trade up for Patrick Mahomes. So, first off, 648 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll ever be fired by Clark Hunt, 649 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: considering he brought him. Patrick Mahomes. Those two draft classes 650 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,239 Speaker 1: were fantastic. I mean, he somehow has the ability and 651 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: this is something you shouldn't do in the draft, right guys, 652 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: like I'm going to fix this position, Like how you 653 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: do that in one offseason? Like Patrick Mahomes runs for 654 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: like seventy two miles behind the line of scrimmage against 655 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: the Bucks and the Super Bowl, and then he goes 656 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: and gets Joe Tuoney, Creed Humphrey Tray Smith and changes 657 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,239 Speaker 1: their whole offensive line in one off season. And then 658 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: he changes the whole secondary and the receiving corps in 659 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: this offseason I mean just completely changes all of that. 660 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: I think he deserves a ton of credit. But to Mahomes, 661 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: you'll love this part. This was maybe my favorite story 662 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: of the whole Super Bowl week. So I'm hanging out 663 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: with the chiefs of Bunch. I'm at the hotel, trying 664 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: to be near him as much as possible to talk 665 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: to coaches everything, and one of their coaches says something 666 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: to me to where I'm like, I gotta digg on this. 667 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: He goes, you know, Pat calls the protections at the 668 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage for our offensive line. I'm like, yeah, 669 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: quarterbacks do that. He calls the wrong protection at times 670 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 1: on purpose. I go what he goes, He's playing chess 671 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: to the level of like, I know the pressure is 672 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: coming this way, the protection call should be this. I'm 673 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: gonna call the wrong one on purpose, and I'm not 674 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: going to tell the old line because then this pressure 675 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: is gonna come here. I'm gonna avoid the pressure. I'm 676 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: gonna throw the hot to that side before they're even 677 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: their yards. After the catch, boom, there we go. So 678 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: I was like, what is I go what? I go? What? 679 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: And so I talked to Andrew Wiley, the right tackle 680 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: I go, Wiley, you gotta run me through these blitz 681 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: protection meetings that you guys are having. He goes. He goes, Man, 682 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: we're left scratching our head for like a like five 683 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: ten minutes before we finally figure out what Pat is 684 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: trying to describe to us. He'll be going, listen, I 685 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: know I gotta call this, but guys, I may call this, 686 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: just block it as I call it, because I want 687 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: this to happen and this to happen, and this to happen, 688 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: and this to happen. And he goes, We're just sitting 689 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: there going what uh, all right? And then it works 690 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: and they're like and so like the David Girardi, who 691 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: just got promoted to be their quarterback coach was one 692 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: of the guys I went to after I heard this, 693 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: and he was like, man, it's just like the mental 694 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: side is more impressive than the physical traits in the 695 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: physical talent, and that is the best maybe this league's 696 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: ever seen. So the mental side is just off the charts. 697 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: To literally call the wrong protection on purpose, you don't 698 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 1: even tell your own offensive line because you want to 699 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: do something with the football is mind boggling to me. 700 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: Are you with me that as a runner, he's just 701 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: so I don't want to say underrated necessarily, but people 702 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: don't take that into account enough when they're describing what 703 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: he does well. Padd will describe himself as and he 704 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: said this to me, how fast are you? Pat? I'm 705 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: always faster than the guy chasing me. And that is true. 706 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: He has this weird nack to just know how fast 707 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,760 Speaker 1: to go. Whoever's chasing on the injured ankle in the 708 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: AFC title game. Now, remember it's the right ankle, so 709 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: if he rolls to his left, he's that's his inside leg. 710 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: That's what he's rolling on and he's not gonna be 711 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: able to run like this. But he rolls to his right, 712 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: gets pushed out of mounds, they kicked the field and 713 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: go to the super Bowl. That's the fastest he ran 714 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,800 Speaker 1: this season in terms of miles, according to Next Gen Stats. 715 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: And that's on the ankle, seven days after the ankle injury, 716 00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: and that's the fastest he ran. He always says, I'll 717 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 1: just always find a way to run faster than the 718 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: guy who's Jess. That's incredible, great stories, James. It's always 719 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: fun to catch up. Thank you guys too. I'm excited 720 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: to watch. Let's go down to Houston. I want the 721 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: Texans assignment for Draft week. Yeah, I've been there before. Eat. 722 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 1: You know where to go. I know where to eat, 723 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,720 Speaker 1: Oh my god, to eat. Yeah. If he bunch this season, 724 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: A bunch this season. There's our buddy James Palmer here 725 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: at the NFL Scouting Combine. All right, A lot more 726 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: to get to. I think Randy macklvoy's gonna drop by 727 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: from KPRC Local to it. As we mentioned Demko Ryan's 728 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: to lead off tomorrow's show at six o'clock. It's Texans Radio, 729 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: all right, as we headed to the final chapter here 730 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: tonight on Texans All Access from Radio Row at the 731 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: Combine in Indianapolis. Before we get Johnny back in here 732 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: to close things out, Randy McAvoy, you never know who 733 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: you're going to run into on the Row and from 734 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: KPRC Local two. It's one of your favorite sportscasters. I 735 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: can't say your favorite because there's so many good ones 736 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: in town and I don't want to play favorites. But Randy, 737 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,239 Speaker 1: great to see you, man, I'm honored to be y'all 738 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 1: is located. This is a fancy setup, man, I like it. 739 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: It's fancy because the video guys are here and they 740 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: want to shoot coaches and gms and those types. When 741 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 1: Nick and Demiko are done right, they'll abandon us Randy 742 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: and it will just be radio audio stuff. Although we 743 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: have cameras on our phones these days, of course, we 744 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: can do little work with that. Yeah, we're gonna be 745 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,000 Speaker 1: just fine. How is spring training? By the way, because 746 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: you've been on the goat a lot for KPRC, you're 747 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 1: doing spring training combine all week. How's that going. Yeah, 748 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: it's been good. It was a good week at West 749 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: Palm Beach. We went early. When the pitchers and catchers 750 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: showed up day one, we decided to go just be 751 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,760 Speaker 1: their day one off the championship and there in games. 752 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: Now we left obviously before they started playing games. But hey, 753 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: fun to get a lot of interviews. Little concerning about 754 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: Lansmacohler's in the elbow, but hey, the guys are are 755 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: ready to a good off seasons. Many of these guys 756 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: are in the World Baseball Classics, so they're already kind 757 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: of ahead of schedule because that's going to start here 758 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: pretty soon. It's funny because I think the attention paid 759 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: to the Astros for good reason for who they are. 760 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: Dynasty during spring training is really interesting, engaging, and to me, 761 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: the Combine is kind of spring training for the NFL, 762 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,479 Speaker 1: even though it's not training camp, it's the same time 763 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 1: of year, and this feels like a renewal of sorts. 764 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 1: This feels like the beginning of the NFL offseason and 765 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 1: a fresh start to the next campaign. It really does. 766 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: It's good. I have not been to the Combine in 767 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,719 Speaker 1: a number of years. We've sent crews here, not every year, 768 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: but often we send crews here, but I haven't physically 769 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: come since the year David Derek Carr came out right, 770 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: It's been a while back at the head of Lucas 771 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: Oil on that lower level. But man, it's a great setup, 772 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: good access to everybody, and we just wanted to be 773 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: here with all the buzz now on the Texans. Everybody's 774 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 1: excited about Demiko and what he can do now that 775 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: he's on board, and a chance to get some fresh 776 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: interviews with these guys and here from in this case 777 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: Nick Sario today, Demiko Wednesday. But people want to hear 778 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: from these guys, especially coming off the staffing hires that 779 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 1: he made, so we get his first comments on that 780 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: as well. Okay, so I went to your it's called 781 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 1: an ott app. All right, so we all watch KPRC 782 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: Local two on regular television, however you get it. Yeah, 783 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: you guys also have this app. And it's not just 784 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: an app on your phone. You have the app on TV. 785 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: So if you have firestick Roku exactly downloaded, it's all 786 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 1: this stuff on there. Do you put extra stuff on 787 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 1: there that's not necessarily on television? Absolutely? Yeah, long form 788 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: like any it's basically you just imagine, like almost like 789 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: a hamster wheel. Is this continuing to go? Every Day's 790 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: KPRC two plus. It's the new channel. It's all the 791 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,919 Speaker 1: stations and across the I mean, it's just the norm. 792 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 1: Now you're you're developing the side channel, and it's where 793 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,760 Speaker 1: you put extra programming. You feed it, keep feeding it. 794 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,359 Speaker 1: So long form interviews. Uh, with what we're gonna get today, 795 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 1: we'll be able to put on long form over the air. 796 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: Obviously I can't run at all, so I'll run snippets 797 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 1: like I normally do, but we we feed that. We're 798 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,560 Speaker 1: gonna do a stream show live. It'll be on our 799 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 1: website and on this on the KPRC two plus, So 800 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,839 Speaker 1: it's another outlet to kind of get material out there, 801 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: some content, all right, another plug for the TV station 802 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 1: in a weird way. I'm at the airport and I 803 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: purchased some water at the KPRC Local two store. We 804 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: appreciate the business. Yeah yeah, what is that all about? 805 00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, does the TV station I walked to if 806 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,439 Speaker 1: you go down to baggage claim at Hobby, we got 807 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 1: to sign down there too, so I have no idea 808 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: what we got. The airport's covered if we're covered at 809 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: Hobby Airport, for sure, But um no, it's good to 810 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 1: be here. I'm here just for a few days, but 811 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: it's good to take it in. And uh uh, you know, 812 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 1: talk some Texas football. Man. I think that you guys 813 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: know you're run it every day and the buzz is back. 814 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 1: I'm fired up. Or Demiko getting a chance? I was 815 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: obviously I've been here a while and I covered him 816 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: when he played and uh and Manny, I think he's 817 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 1: excited to what he could put on this program. It's 818 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: his Now, do you have the guts to take Drew 819 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 1: Doherty's Walking Wonderlick test? That's what I wanted based on 820 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,879 Speaker 1: the first question. I think I would fail miserably at that, 821 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 1: but uh, I want to I'm looking forward to more 822 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,280 Speaker 1: the question he's throwing math at people on the street. Randy, 823 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: thanks a lot for joining us. Got guys, all right, 824 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: let's get Johnny back in here. Johnny biggest takeaway of 825 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: the day. As we saw a lot of gms and 826 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: coaches at the podium, we caught up with Nick as 827 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,839 Speaker 1: Sarrio your thoughts. Yeah, catch up with Nick was great. Um. 828 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: Of course, me breaking the news to him that he's 829 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,399 Speaker 1: traded the number one pick for that one pick three, 830 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:45,760 Speaker 1: that was good. Um. But either there's so much. Always 831 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,399 Speaker 1: find him interesting when he's on with us, because we'll 832 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: talk about something and there are some things that get 833 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: out there in the in the blog of sphere, the 834 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: twitter sphere, the talk of sphere, and then he comes 835 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: in and says, well, look, just gotta handle all the 836 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: noise and kind of deal with it and we'll get 837 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: it to the right place when it comes. And I 838 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,160 Speaker 1: think just the way that he approaches it and how 839 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 1: compartmentalized he looks at this, because can you imagine being 840 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: at GM and you've got these agents that want to 841 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: talk about their current players, and then you've got agents 842 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: that are like, hey, we're interested in Houston now because 843 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 1: Demiko's there and there's a lot good there's a good 844 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: vibe going on. And then you got these prospects, and 845 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: so you're hearing from the agent of the prospects. And 846 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: then you've got the league year coming up in a 847 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, new league you're coming up, and you 848 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 1: know these prospects. I mean, it's just a lot. The 849 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: fact that he can compartmentalize all of that. This is 850 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: a time for this, this is the time for this. 851 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: He makes it seem so easy when we know it's 852 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: definitely not, absolutely not easy. And I think the conversations 853 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 1: that take place that we don't hear are probably the 854 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: most interesting ones here at the scouting combine. But that's 855 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 1: another subject for another day. You know, I'm wondering if 856 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: there's a bigger news item to come out of this 857 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: week's activities than Bryce Young's height and wait it's coming. 858 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: Is that the biggest thing that's going to come out? 859 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 1: Plus the Richardson throwing session. And I cite him more 860 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: than any other because he's the one with the most questions. 861 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 1: That's that's slated to go high, right, but other quarterbacks. 862 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: We talked about your buddy from Fresno State yesterday. We 863 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: talked about him. We talked about some others, and it's 864 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting. Is Doug and gonna throw here? I 865 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: would think he would, Yeah, I would think he would. 866 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 1: I would think anybody that's not guaranteed to be a 867 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,120 Speaker 1: top five, top ten pick should probably do their activities. 868 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,319 Speaker 1: Jalen Carters not for good reason. Guy played sixteen games 869 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,320 Speaker 1: this year. Fifteen games now he missed a couple for injury, 870 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: so thirteen. But you know, guys that played a Georgian 871 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 1: TCUO played a lot of games. So I can see 872 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: if you're gonna be a top two pick, like Jalen 873 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: Carter seemingly is going to be, you can, I WoT say, 874 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,879 Speaker 1: take the day off, but you don't have to work out. 875 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: Save it for your protet. Your prodies are coming up 876 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: pretty quickly anyways. Prodies are coming up next week. So 877 00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 1: so okay, if you step aside, if you're that caliber, 878 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,440 Speaker 1: if you're not compete, do what you gotta do. And 879 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: in rock on thirty seconds, you tell me will your 880 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,920 Speaker 1: Harris one hundred evaluations change much based on what you 881 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: see here. Not necessarily. The only thing that might happen 882 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,359 Speaker 1: is if there's somebody that and there are a couple 883 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 1: of guys that at the very end I was like, 884 00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:18,319 Speaker 1: you know what, I feel like I need more time 885 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: with them, and so that might change if they really 886 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 1: test well that I'll kind of put the bird my backside, 887 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 1: But not really. No, I feel pretty good about where 888 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 1: we are, Okay, I feel really great about where we 889 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: are here on Radio Row and broadcasting from here, we're 890 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: gonna have DMKO Ryan's on Wednesday's show. We have Daniel Jeremiah, 891 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: Greg Coo, Sell others coming up later this week. Plenty 892 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 1: of AFC South Talk. It's all on the way as 893 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: we continue to go to the Texans app at the 894 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,399 Speaker 1: Houston Texans dot com website for more info on all 895 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: of our coverage. You have a great night, Go Texans.