Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Waken Jake. The night before football
Speaker 1: and all through the house. It's Wednesday, September fourth, Summer
Speaker 1: is over, Labor Day has happened. There's real football games
Speaker 1: that count Tomorrow night and Friday in Brasil football season.
Speaker 1: You guys know, I like to preview the weekend for you.
Speaker 1: I'm also going to open with kind of I don't
Speaker 1: want to say a Yankee rant because that sounds kind
Speaker 1: of clicky, But I also want you guys to reach
Speaker 1: out on comment kind of about your front office and
Speaker 1: some of the decisions that have been made or haven't
Speaker 1: been made that it frustrated you about your team, because again,
Speaker 1: being locked into the Yankees every day for the past
Speaker 1: seven years, there's things that frustrate you and call up
Speaker 1: this guy, don't call up that guy, make that happen.
Speaker 1: That you guys know on your team better than me.
Speaker 1: I know a couple from around the league that I
Speaker 1: want to use as examples. But and then that will
Speaker 1: lead into this football weekend and I'll give you, guys
Speaker 1: just some of my thoughts on teams or players that
Speaker 1: I've bought into going into this season, or something I'm
Speaker 1: about or I'm not about So with that, let me
Speaker 1: start off by saying, we were live on the YES
Speaker 1: Network all stream Yankees Entertainment and Sports Network. We are
Speaker 1: friendly with them because of where we have ended up
Speaker 1: as a company, and we've partnered with them and it's
Speaker 1: been pretty cool. They put our best of Talking Yanks
Speaker 1: show on there. A lot of good people, a lot
Speaker 1: of passionate Yankee fans. A couple times we we've felt,
Speaker 1: you know, a couple tweets or different things that they
Speaker 1: weren't the biggest fans of because we're not YES Network,
Speaker 1: we're John Boy Media that on the live stream last night,
Speaker 1: Clay Holmes gives up a walk off Grand Slam is
Speaker 1: eleventh blown save of the year. Uh and Jimmy, Jimmy,
Speaker 1: let it eat a little bit. I mean again, nothing
Speaker 1: over the top and nothing wrong to be frank, and
Speaker 1: we tweeted out all that and we didn't we again
Speaker 1: to be fair to Yes, like they didn't come at
Speaker 1: us for this, but it's just they've said nothing there.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the YES people have similar thoughts.
Speaker 1: They just don't really have a platform to put it
Speaker 1: out on.
Speaker 2: This's is not what you would hear on like the broadcast,
Speaker 2: but's also the point of thet out outcasts.
Speaker 1: Outcasts exist, so and you know we're sitting there, the
Speaker 1: Yankees just gave up first place to the Baltimore Orioles.
Speaker 1: But again, think of the first world problem that is.
Speaker 1: But it's just highlighted for us. You know, we've we've
Speaker 1: had our questions about the front office or different philosophies
Speaker 1: on the way. And you do have to check yourself
Speaker 1: sometimes because it's being a fan and you can't just
Speaker 1: cut every player after a bad series. That's not how
Speaker 1: the world works. I get that. And baseball is unique
Speaker 1: in its own way. Like you know, we see it
Speaker 1: every year. Guys have awful one month or two months
Speaker 1: and then go nuts. Look at Ajohenio Suarez. I mean
Speaker 1: the Arizona Diamonbacks were very ready to move on from
Speaker 1: him if they needed to, if he didn't kick in
Speaker 1: in the next couple weeks or whatever. And then he
Speaker 1: did and he's been like a one dot ops guy
Speaker 1: for them. And that's kind of where the Yankees are
Speaker 1: at with Glabor Torres. Glabor Torres, who the Yankees had
Speaker 1: rumored to trade a year and a half ago, year
Speaker 1: ago of Pablo Lopez, it fell through. Looking back, that
Speaker 1: would have been probably a great trade for the Yankees.
Speaker 1: Glabor Tor has hit really well last year, is the
Speaker 1: most consistent on the team hitter on the team not
Speaker 1: named Aaron Judge eight hundred ops like numbers vary in
Speaker 1: line with his career numbers for second baseman. It's a
Speaker 1: good ask final year of his contracts. The defense has
Speaker 1: never been there, which I was having a laugh about that.
Speaker 1: He struggled with defense at second base when the Yankees
Speaker 1: thought for a while he would be a shortstop, which
Speaker 1: that's like a scouting error. Anyways, Glaboratories has kicked in
Speaker 1: the gear. They put him in the leadoff spot in
Speaker 1: front of Soa and Judge. He has been great lately
Speaker 1: and it's a it's a great example of like how
Speaker 1: the baseball gods can work and sticking with players. And again,
Speaker 1: I would love to know your team's examples of this
Speaker 1: and we can cross check them and compare uh. On
Speaker 1: the other side, Alex Verdugo, the left left fielder for
Speaker 1: them one year, one year Yankee traded from the Red Sox.
Speaker 1: The Yankees and Red Sox don't do a lot of business.
Speaker 1: Alex Verdugo is traded for Greg Weisser, a triple A
Speaker 1: reliever for them, who's been solid for the Red Sox
Speaker 1: this year. Happy for Greg. More built for the Red Sox.
Speaker 1: Looks like a Red Sox nice mustache. Times have gotten
Speaker 1: to check it out. It looks right fits the vibe. Man.
Speaker 1: But think about that, the Yankees and the Red Sox
Speaker 1: traded a star, daring left fielder, a piece that they
Speaker 1: originally traded for for Mookie Betts. The Red Sox were
Speaker 1: ready to let whatever happened with Alex Verdugo happen with
Speaker 1: the Yankees. He came up and he started pretty solid
Speaker 1: for the Yanks. He actually took over the cleanup spot
Speaker 1: for a little bit, was playing great defense in left field. Sure,
Speaker 1: and then Yankee fans, you were looking at the numbers
Speaker 1: and you're like, I think there's more in there. Looking
Speaker 1: at his baseball card, you think there's a little more
Speaker 1: in there. It's gone the opposite direction. We got numbers
Speaker 1: from Katie Sharps. We do sharp stats every week, you know,
Speaker 1: basically saying he's been the worst left fielder in the league.
Speaker 1: World Series teams don't have players putting up the stats
Speaker 1: he has in the last ten days he's contributed a
Speaker 1: little better, but it's brought up some questions. With Jason
Speaker 1: de Mingez their top prospect in the minor leagues, they've
Speaker 1: seen Austin Wells take off this year. Anthony Volpi's been
Speaker 1: with the big league club for two years now, enrolling
Speaker 1: that the thought of having Jason Dimingez on the team
Speaker 1: and Alex Verdugo, and the thought of them even platooning
Speaker 1: Hey every two days. Alex Verdugo has always been bad
Speaker 1: verse lefties. Hey, we've got a We've got a lefty
Speaker 1: and ariety. Today we're gonna give Diminga's two games, see
Speaker 1: what he's got, and then we'll give Dugo two or
Speaker 1: three games, see what he's got. The thought of competition
Speaker 1: freaks them out, and it doesn't feel right. I get
Speaker 1: that it's baseball, uh, and that you need to let
Speaker 1: the season run a little bit, but it's not May,
Speaker 1: it's not June, it's not July, it's not August. And
Speaker 1: for whatever reason this front off is is either scared
Speaker 1: of the media or they're so into player confidence and
Speaker 1: belief that they get themselves in trouble, which leads to
Speaker 1: the Clay Home situation. Clay Holmes Blues eleventh save. He's
Speaker 1: a guy that they got in a trade as kind
Speaker 1: of a reliever project. They didn't give up really anything
Speaker 1: prospect capital, and they tapped into them. And it's a
Speaker 1: credit to Matt Blake and it's something the Yankees one
Speaker 1: thousand percent can pound their chest and say they're good at.
Speaker 1: They have tapped into a lot of guys in the
Speaker 1: bullpen and they've pushed the envelope on it this year,
Speaker 1: and that's part of the give and shove of baseball.
Speaker 1: Like the Yankees traded for Wan Soda, they got Won Soto.
Speaker 1: They had to give up a lot of pieces for that,
Speaker 1: but credit to them on doing that. They had to
Speaker 1: give up those pieces for mon So too. They're paying
Speaker 1: him for this year. Hopefully they're paying him for a
Speaker 1: lot more years. But in that it seems they pushed
Speaker 1: their relief to the extreme that Clay Holmes was kind
Speaker 1: of the only lock coming into the year Tommy Kinley,
Speaker 1: but he got hurt before the season. That it really
Speaker 1: has been I do hate to say ragtag bunch about
Speaker 1: a bunch of major league relievers that have pitched well
Speaker 1: this year. But it's a lot of projects.
Speaker 2: But literally several of them. The Yankees acquired them off waivers.
Speaker 2: Michael Tonkin, who Yankees just waived themselves. They got him
Speaker 2: off way on the team all year, with Jake Cousins
Speaker 2: off waivers. Tim Hillton the weaver off weavers last season, right,
Speaker 2: he changed some things, and that's a that seems to
Speaker 2: be another w for them.
Speaker 1: So again it's it's the strength of their organization and
Speaker 1: they've leaned into that a lot. But now you are
Speaker 1: in a window where you've paid Aaron Judge a ton
Speaker 1: of money, You've paid Garrett Cole a ton of money.
Speaker 1: You traded for Juan Soto. Their bullpen looked and felt vulnerable,
Speaker 1: and just to be honest, and I know the world
Speaker 1: doesn't work this way anymore. Clay Holmes on the closer
Speaker 1: vibe train, so three out of ten. He's a massive human,
Speaker 1: So that gives them some points. When you see that
Speaker 1: coming out of the bullpen, you're like, Okay, not a swagster.
Speaker 1: His best pitch is a fastball, like a sinker, a
Speaker 1: contact sinker. His slider has developed and become a better
Speaker 1: pitch for them, But I think now that he's been
Speaker 1: seen around the league, he doesn't hold runners he doesn't
Speaker 1: have good control. There's just not enough weapons in there
Speaker 1: to be a lockdown, consistent closer, especially when you're infield
Speaker 1: defense this week, which got highlighted on the main stage yesterday,
Speaker 1: including a play by DJ Lemayhew thirty six years old
Speaker 1: playing first base and has been one of, if not
Speaker 1: the worst player in baseball this year. Meanwhile, if you
Speaker 1: look at other teams, the Los Angeles Dodgers, they let
Speaker 1: Amedrozario Go who they traded for was hitting three hundred
Speaker 1: on the season, is super versatile, but they grabbed him
Speaker 1: his insurance for the rest of their team, and they
Speaker 1: had other teams and trades come through. Tommy Edmond is
Speaker 1: now back in playing for them. Their whole bench is
Speaker 1: veteran Leyden with guys that at least have oskill or
Speaker 1: guys that have given them like huge playoff moments, Chris Taylor,
Speaker 1: Kei ke Kevin Kiermyer like he has his skill. The
Speaker 1: Houston Astros earlier this season released Jose Abraw with thirty
Speaker 1: million left to pay twenty mil this year, maybe fifteen
Speaker 1: mil next year, something like that.
Speaker 2: In the neighborhood whatever, whatever the exact number is.
Speaker 1: Former MVP Jose Brew. They when that contract came out,
Speaker 1: everyone thought it was a year too long. They made
Speaker 1: the move former MVP, well respected guy.
Speaker 2: Fal number on him, but he had left thirty point
Speaker 2: eight million.
Speaker 1: He also like had a bad year last year, but
Speaker 1: kicked in in the postseason, so you know that's a
Speaker 1: tricky game. But he's an older player. An exercise I
Speaker 1: did the other day and now I'm starting to wander
Speaker 1: just a little bit before I get to football season.
Speaker 1: DJ Lemayhew's thirty six. I'm starting to deal with father time,
Speaker 1: even though I still look I got some early twenties. Often,
Speaker 1: oh how old? Let me guess how old you are?
Speaker 1: Why does that happen to me? Either way, the fact
Speaker 1: people are doing that to me means they know I'm
Speaker 1: older than I look like. The fact that someone else
Speaker 1: would bring that up to me in a conversation means
Speaker 1: the math is off anyways.
Speaker 2: Because that's even come up, you have to kind of
Speaker 2: not know the person that well.
Speaker 1: So if you go to Baseball Reference, you can pick
Speaker 1: when a list of player's birthday, you can list players
Speaker 1: that are born a certain year. E. J. Lemayhew was
Speaker 1: born in nineteen eighty eight. You're really close to mine
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine. These are the players that played this
Speaker 1: season that were born in nineteen eighty eight. I'll skip
Speaker 1: the pitchers for you. Kurt Casally uh picked up off
Speaker 1: the streets from the Giants because they needed a catcher.
Speaker 1: I believe he is. He's point two war, but that's
Speaker 1: all defensive, uh, my guy. Kurt Casally has a four
Speaker 1: eighty six ops a forty four ops plus. Okay.
Speaker 2: Sure.
Speaker 1: Adam Duvall, who's put together a couple good seasons recently,
Speaker 1: he has a negative one point three war this year
Speaker 1: a fifty seven ops plus. Okay, now looking good? Yes?
Speaker 1: MONI grandal you titsman or a yas man? He has
Speaker 1: a negative war. He has an eighty one ops plus
Speaker 1: a six fifty six fifty six okay?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Dj Lem Mayhew negative one point six war, a fifty
Speaker 1: ops plus a five twenty seven ops. No, why no? Uh,
Speaker 1: Tommy Fam obviously Tommy Fam is on this list. Tommy
Speaker 1: Fam does have a negative war this year, zero point
Speaker 1: three with a ninety six ops plus. Tommy Fam is
Speaker 1: still fight in the fight verse, lefties, my guy. The
Speaker 1: only offensive player that bucks the eighty eight trend at
Speaker 1: all is Starling Marte, who has been hurt for a
Speaker 1: chunk of this season, is one of the most in
Speaker 1: shape baseball players I think we've ever had, and Starling
Speaker 1: Marte has a one zero four ohps plus, so I
Speaker 1: want to say he's exactly taking down the world is
Speaker 1: zero point five war. So I think if you added
Speaker 1: up the war from the baseball players born in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty eight position players, it would be negative. The Yankees
Speaker 1: have continued to roll DJ Lemayhew out there. It's almost
Speaker 1: become route to DJ Lemayhew. It feels like he's a
Speaker 1: shell of himself. I know he's a two time batting title.
Speaker 1: I know he was a light in a couple of
Speaker 1: those Yankee years where he was just as electric as
Speaker 1: a player like DJ Lemayhew could be. It was awesome
Speaker 1: to watch. It forced the hand of the Yankees to
Speaker 1: re sign him that they did, and they extended it
Speaker 1: to a longer come tracked because they were worried about
Speaker 1: how he would age and they would hope it would
Speaker 1: turn into a bench roll eventually where he would be
Speaker 1: a backup first baseman, third baseman, maybe second base. It
Speaker 1: just hasn't happened. And having him in the field late
Speaker 1: in the game. He misses not even a routine ball,
Speaker 1: less than routine like a chopper, basically a game of catch.
Speaker 2: Like an easy play.
Speaker 1: The office makes that play. Joseph Solano makes that play.
Speaker 1: There might have been some lights involved. I get it,
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to do that, But when you put
Speaker 1: it with the offensive stats, you put it with the
Speaker 1: fact he was never really a first baseman, and you
Speaker 1: have your a guy that could potentially be the fourth
Speaker 1: best player on your team in your minor leagues, but
Speaker 1: you don't know because you haven't played them, because you
Speaker 1: have another veteran for one year that you're not committed
Speaker 1: to that the Red Sox traded you. The Red Sox
Speaker 1: willingly traded you because this guy's had his stuff going
Speaker 1: on and you're not willing to get your top prospect
Speaker 1: in the mix. When you're in an al's pennant race
Speaker 1: with the Baltimore Orioles, they could put you in a
Speaker 1: three game wildcard or not. Unserious has been a word
Speaker 1: thrown around a lot. I mentioned some of the moves
Speaker 1: that the Dodgers and Houston have done. The Baltimore Orioles
Speaker 1: have sent down Jackson Holliday when he came up and
Speaker 1: he didn't contribute the Yankees. When Volti came up, they
Speaker 1: gave him a full extended leash. Yet other prospects, Jason Dimingez,
Speaker 1: they can't get anything Clay Holmes. They tried to convince
Speaker 1: themselves he was the best closer in the league. For
Speaker 1: for what I think it was a month or like
Speaker 1: three weeks. Every time a player did an interview, they
Speaker 1: went out of their way to say that Clay Holmes
Speaker 1: is the best closer in baseball.
Speaker 2: There's clearly like an organizational line.
Speaker 1: Like a memo went out, and that's kind of how
Speaker 1: they do it. By the way, go check out what
Speaker 1: Emmanuel class A is doing this year. So if you
Speaker 1: really want to get into that kind of argument. Anyways,
Speaker 1: they basically tried to will the fact that Clay Holmes
Speaker 1: is a good closer into existence. And he started off
Speaker 1: the season great, and Clay has some it's nasty. I
Speaker 1: used to call him robot horse because he has the
Speaker 1: legs of a horse and he was throwing strikes. That
Speaker 1: was his big problem in Pittsburgh and guys couldn't find it.
Speaker 1: Guys have started to find it. They've seen Clay Holmes.
Speaker 1: It's a sinker slider, and I think with the stuff
Speaker 1: around the league these days, and with having seeing a
Speaker 1: pitcher multiple times, it's just not as good as it
Speaker 1: needs to be to hold on to that closer spot.
Speaker 1: He also gives up a lot of weak contact with
Speaker 1: a bad defensive infield. He cannot field because he's built
Speaker 1: like a robot horse. That the Yankees were in denial
Speaker 1: about his struggles because it was a lot of weak
Speaker 1: contact and oh it's a hit, it's it's an infield single,
Speaker 1: it's a walk, and then there comes the big hit.
Speaker 1: Karon Boone, It's a line he kept using, and it
Speaker 1: didn't make me mad until it made me mad that
Speaker 1: Clay Holmes last year he had some serious control problems,
Speaker 1: Like you would watch his first two pitches and you'd go,
Speaker 1: oh my god.
Speaker 2: He would have days that you would like, know, we.
Speaker 1: Could he doesn't have the zone today. He couldn't find
Speaker 1: the zone. He'd start getting the bullpen up instantly and
Speaker 1: that's whatever. So Boone and his press conferences would say like,
Speaker 1: you know, Claysman, he hasn't had any of the wild
Speaker 1: the control issues this year. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know you're right, Boone and then when you take
Speaker 1: a step back and you realize what he's doing now,
Speaker 1: because after an incredible start to the season, which I
Speaker 1: want to get my stats right here, he opened up
Speaker 1: the season on a scoreless streak his first twenty appear apearances.
Speaker 1: We're scoreless. That's good, incredible, incredible until May nineteenth he
Speaker 1: was scoreless. Uh since then? And does may matter in
Speaker 1: your team season right now? No, it's over. It's September.
Speaker 1: A whole summer has happened. In thirty five innings, he
Speaker 1: has a five to one four EERRA with like a
Speaker 1: two seventy nine batting average against a three forty eight
Speaker 1: obps seven sixty two oh ps. If I bring those
Speaker 1: numbers in a little more, they get worse as the
Speaker 1: season goes. So when my guy, Aaron Boone, who we
Speaker 1: talked to once a week, says, yeah, but Clay's not
Speaker 1: dealing with the control issues, okay, then that means he's
Speaker 1: just getting beat at regular baseball. What you thought was
Speaker 1: his flaw isn't happening, and now he's getting beat at baseball.
Speaker 1: So by trying to blindly con vince themselves that he
Speaker 1: was a lockdown, elite closer, they now have not given
Speaker 1: anyone else a try it closing this year, which maybe
Speaker 1: it wasn't the right move. Maybe Luke Weaver's not ready
Speaker 1: for it. Maybe Jake Cousins is not ready for it.
Speaker 1: I don't fully believe the Yankees wanted to get someone
Speaker 1: more impactful. At the deadline, we saw the Padres add
Speaker 1: two significant arms. Aj Puck Again, I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's Yankees guy, but for how good he's been for
Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks.
Speaker 2: Yo, could you could have gotten someone.
Speaker 1: Instead of a guy like Piaza is a big was
Speaker 1: a big prospect for them. He's now kind of down
Speaker 1: and out on it on their prospect pipeline. We'll see
Speaker 1: if he gets in the mix next year. But I
Speaker 1: would have loved to find out him playing more baseball
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years that between Vulpi and Glaber,
Speaker 1: there would have been different moments. You could have played
Speaker 1: that guy more and you could have known what you
Speaker 1: had and maybe he's an option come the postseason. Maybe
Speaker 1: he's not, and that's okay because his value. Know that
Speaker 1: his value at Triple A is doing nothing. They close
Speaker 1: off doors to themselves and it gets them in more
Speaker 1: trouble than they think it's helping by saying, bolp, he's
Speaker 1: locked in at shortstop every day. Well, he's really struggling.
Speaker 1: Get him some help, all right, Clay Holmes is our closer.
Speaker 1: He's struggling, Get him some help. They try other options
Speaker 1: with Clay.
Speaker 2: They've in previous years that he's been the Yankees closer.
Speaker 2: They've put him in timeouts for two weeks like they've
Speaker 2: they've done it with him before at the deadline. Look,
Speaker 2: obviously we don't you don't know exactly how any conversations
Speaker 2: went and what moves were closed and just didn't work
Speaker 2: out for X y Z. But Cashman said closer wasn't
Speaker 2: at the top of his you know, priority list whatever
Speaker 2: exactly he said. And they but but even in the
Speaker 2: world that they've drawn up, and I'm and I like Clay.
Speaker 2: I think he's a good reliever that is capable of
Speaker 2: closing some games. But even in that world that they've
Speaker 2: drawn up that he's the best in the world, Even
Speaker 2: if that's true, why didn't they go about the deadline
Speaker 2: prepare for like, okay, well what if he gets hurt?
Speaker 2: Like they since April we've been saying we'd love a
Speaker 2: reliever that can like day one, you feel good about
Speaker 2: eighth inning or later like just they needed depth back there,
Speaker 2: just just anyway every team does.
Speaker 1: Hey, half of you are listening and your team's out
Speaker 1: of the playoff mix and you can't believe this again,
Speaker 1: I would love to know what your teams are going through.
Speaker 1: As we're in September. This is the final run. Orioles
Speaker 1: also demoted Craig Kimbrel, a historic closer, from the closer
Speaker 1: role this year. And there is no problem because it's
Speaker 1: baseball and that's how it works. They've gone too far
Speaker 1: away from competition and it feels weird. The other thing,
Speaker 1: I'll say Jazz Chisholm, who has been awesome for the
Speaker 1: New York Yankees. One dotting the Common conversation yesterday. He's
Speaker 1: the most athletic Yankee since Blank. We said Brett Gardner.
Speaker 1: He has a conversation. A young Brett Gardner could fly
Speaker 1: around the bases. You know when I say athletic, especially
Speaker 1: when it comes to baseball, like arm strength I think
Speaker 1: becomes involved in it a little bit. And just like
Speaker 1: how you move, like how fluid are you around the bases?
Speaker 1: How well can you feel different positions? I think peak
Speaker 1: Jazz would take on peak Gardy, depending how you do
Speaker 1: your baseball athleticism. The name John throwed out and I
Speaker 1: would love to get any other names along the way
Speaker 1: is Alfonso Soriano, which we're going back twenty years now,
Speaker 1: so I realize, you know, baseball kind of gets laughed
Speaker 1: at for its athleticism. Sometimes the Yankees sign free agents,
Speaker 1: which that brings you into the later part of your career,
Speaker 1: which makes you less athletic. But it could be something
Speaker 1: else that Yankee fans look back at and they're like, wait,
Speaker 1: why didn't we have more athleticism on the field. Labor
Speaker 1: Torres has been a plot middle infielder that's normally pretty athletic.
Speaker 2: And as you were talking the Jazz Chisholm like kind
Speaker 2: of brand of athletic, Like, of course, like Aaron Judge
Speaker 2: is an athlete and all that right before that.
Speaker 1: Every baseball players obvious being athletic is different. It's like
Speaker 1: it's power, it's it's lateral movement, it's how you run,
Speaker 1: it's it's jumping, it's everything throwing, just.
Speaker 2: Making things happen, which Jazz does every.
Speaker 1: Day and he sure has. So again a little bit
Speaker 1: of a Yankee rant I'm sorry. Some of you hate that,
Speaker 1: some of you love that. Let me know where your
Speaker 1: team is at. Especially, I'd love to hear from some
Speaker 1: of the other contenders of things that are making you mad.
Speaker 1: Maybe a Dodgers fan is about to chime in in
Speaker 1: the comments and be like, I hate all the veterans
Speaker 1: on the bench. Give kids a shot. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Let me in, Let me in. I would love to
Speaker 1: find out. And the bigger thing is we're about to
Speaker 1: find out about football season. We have the first game
Speaker 1: of the night Thursday, Baltimore versus Kansas City. They're running
Speaker 1: it back in Kansas City at Arrowheads Stadium, NBC and
Speaker 1: Peacock Man Kansas City Chiefs. They're going for a three
Speaker 1: pet It hasn't been done in the NFL. A lot
Speaker 1: of people are buying in because of Patrick Mahomes and
Speaker 1: Andy Reid and Kelsey and a defense that's underrated every
Speaker 1: year and wide receivers that are better. The fun line
Speaker 1: of the offseason with the Chiefs, they're better than last year.
Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of believe. I think if I
Speaker 1: had to put Betton money on it with the DraftKings sportsbook,
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to go against Kansas City Chiefs Baltimore.
Speaker 1: What's gonna be really fun this year is Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1: I mean you probably know from your fantasy football, but
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry is out of Tennessee. He's with Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: Say Flowers should take off to another level this year
Speaker 1: and be the best wide receiver Lamar has had. Mark
Speaker 1: Andrews has had some health stuff, but Isaiah likely has
Speaker 1: filled in really well. There they are set up to
Speaker 1: be as dynamic as Baltimore has ever been or just
Speaker 1: impossible to defend in what a way it would be
Speaker 1: to make a statement kind of like the Lions did
Speaker 1: last year, and do the Ravens really need to make
Speaker 1: a statement statement? Like the Ravens are one of the
Speaker 1: best teams in football. I forget who I was here
Speaker 1: and talk about it, but they were talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are the standard right now. It's Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: Andy Reid and just that whole organization. And they were
Speaker 1: talking about, like if you're ranking teams, it's basically there's
Speaker 1: a group of teams that you need Mahomes to have
Speaker 1: his B game and like we could win, and then
Speaker 1: there's a group of teams that just look at it like, no,
Speaker 1: we can't. We can't keep up with this. The Ravens
Speaker 1: are obviously one of those teams. And I'll probably wrap
Speaker 1: up with some division stuff because I want to walk
Speaker 1: us through the weekend of football again. That's always one
Speaker 1: of my favorite things to do. Friday, September sixth Where
Speaker 1: else would the NFL be but sal Paulo Brazil see
Speaker 1: you down there where the Eagles are hosting the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers. I mean Philly, who's been one of the
Speaker 1: highlight teams of the past two years, and the Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers, who seem to be all the way back
Speaker 1: on the map. Jordan Love with half a season from
Speaker 1: the Gods, he has been one of the hottest debate
Speaker 1: topics of this offseason. Is he for real? I guess
Speaker 1: if everyone was coming in at an eight on Jordan
Speaker 1: Love right now, like an eight out of ten, like
Speaker 1: they kind of believe he's that next tier one of
Speaker 1: the guys, I'm gonna sell a little bit. I need
Speaker 1: to see more. Like Lafleur is a good coach. It
Speaker 1: seems like they did it right with Jordan Love. It
Speaker 1: seems like they believe in one of those wide receiver
Speaker 1: offenses where everyone in the fantasy draft is debating who's
Speaker 1: going to be their guy, feels like Watson. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think every QB takes a little bit of a
Speaker 1: step back, or we're about to be entering an new,
Speaker 1: like glory quarterback generation with some of these young quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Because I know we're not talking Texans right now, but man,
Speaker 1: everything on paper tells you that they'd be incredible, Like
Speaker 1: they added Stefan Diggs, how good Stroud was last year,
Speaker 1: Like there's no way he can take a step back, right.
Speaker 1: I feel like defenses find tendencies and they can adjust
Speaker 1: better than quarterbacks, and that's why we end up with
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrences and Justin Herbert's that those guys were supposed
Speaker 1: to be the next generation, right, and now people are
Speaker 1: kind of selling their stock. So I think I'm a
Speaker 1: little lower on Jordan Love than probably the consensuses. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying, like, sell all your stock, but I just
Speaker 1: need to see more of it. I can't be in
Speaker 1: on that much. Philadelphia, on the other hand, my god,
Speaker 1: they have been a fun conversation with how ugly their
Speaker 1: season has ended. Supposedly Hurts and Sirianni had beef. Supposedly
Speaker 1: it's over. They had Saquon Barkley. I think they just
Speaker 1: got away from running the damn ball. Like used to
Speaker 1: turn on an Eagles game and it was third and
Speaker 1: one and you were like, even if we stop them,
Speaker 1: they're gonna tush push us and we're screwed. Because they
Speaker 1: would just run the ball. They would cycle in all
Speaker 1: those different running backs. You never knew who it was
Speaker 1: unless it was the Giants and it was about to
Speaker 1: be Boston Scott week. They signed Saquon, they paid Saquon.
Speaker 1: Saquon's a stud. Saquon's been playing on a tough offense.
Speaker 1: If we're being honest the past couple of years, they're
Speaker 1: gonna give Saquon the rock. That's gonna open it up
Speaker 1: for Hurts on the outside. With all those talented receivers.
Speaker 1: People are wondering if Philly's gonna be out. I think
Speaker 1: Philly's gonna be back in a big way. I don't
Speaker 1: see one of those teams really stepping up in the division.
Speaker 1: I love Jaden Daniels, but even if I love him,
Speaker 1: the Commanders and being a year or two away at least,
Speaker 1: I think the Eagles are gonna be back in a
Speaker 1: big way. I don't know what's gonna happen in South Palo, Brazil.
Speaker 1: Feels like one of those games you turn it on
Speaker 1: and they're like the altitude is seventy thousand feet and
Speaker 1: you're like, what first game of the year. These guys
Speaker 1: can't breathe. BBD's gonna get the South Palo altitude. That's
Speaker 1: a weird one for me. Two, like kind of historic
Speaker 1: NFL teams open up in South Paalo. Grow the game, right,
Speaker 1: I guess Week one, just get it over with. We
Speaker 1: have an altitude.
Speaker 2: I think this is a high altitude. Okay, twenty five
Speaker 2: hundred feet.
Speaker 1: I'll take it. I think that's okay, that's half a mile, right,
Speaker 1: think so numbers guy. So let's see. So you got
Speaker 1: two fun ones Thursday, Baltimore, Kansas City, Green Bay, Philly.
Speaker 1: All these teams have championship type aspirations, which means you
Speaker 1: turn on the football Sunday one pm. We're gonna be
Speaker 1: live streaming. Come enjoy with us. Let's see in that
Speaker 1: one o'clock slate again, you're watching every game. You want
Speaker 1: to see every team, your winners. Buffalo Arizona, Let's see
Speaker 1: what Arizona looks like Kyler Murray, Marvin Harrison. That team
Speaker 1: was really punchy last year. And the Bill they're down
Speaker 1: some of the talent on the outside, but they have
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and they're the Buffalo Bills that some people
Speaker 1: have them as a sneaky could they take a step back.
Speaker 1: I'm not a McDermott guy. I've talked about that with
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills before. I want to look at the
Speaker 1: division a little more before I'd fade the Bills. I'm
Speaker 1: in on them. I've got Josh Allen in a few
Speaker 1: fantasy leagues thumb Man, Tennessee and Chicago. People will be
Speaker 1: watching that will Levis versus Caleb Williams. I flip flop
Speaker 1: on the Bears and Caleb every day. The talent is crazy.
Speaker 1: Three wide receivers, two running backs. They like Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1: Every scout in person I trust in the NFL says
Speaker 1: this guy is going to be the guy. We kind
Speaker 1: of did that with, like Trevor Lawrence a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's a little different. Caleb's got a little more I
Speaker 1: think natural talent to them and showed just a little
Speaker 1: more two years ago at USC. I think I've told
Speaker 1: the people on here not fully sold on Caleb. You
Speaker 1: need a man, a lot of men in that locker
Speaker 1: room to buy in. It's got to happen kind of quick.
Speaker 1: The Bears are a little bit of a curse quarterback franchise, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you want to hear that? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I hope I'm bloody wrong.
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 1: That's for one of the British games coming up? I
Speaker 1: hope I'm bloody wrong. I hope the Bears have their
Speaker 1: quarterback for the next twenty years. I hope America becomes
Speaker 1: the biggest Caleb Williams stands. Heard a few of an
Speaker 1: interview like awesome guy. He's got some like anti bullying
Speaker 1: Foundation stuff like want to be all in on it,
Speaker 1: the product of football as a quarterback in Chicago, being
Speaker 1: a rookie, it's just so uphill for things that shouldn't matter,
Speaker 1: and I'm skeptical of that. Maybe that makes me the
Speaker 1: bad guy. Houston, Indy could be fun. Feels like they
Speaker 1: always have a fun game. New England Cincy kind of
Speaker 1: out on. Sorry, everyone wants to see Joe Burr. I
Speaker 1: get it is. Jamar gonna be out there New England reset.
Speaker 1: We'll check in on them later. Houston, Verus, Indy. I
Speaker 1: said it with Stroud before, like it's either Stroud is
Speaker 1: absolutely next, Like I think everyone kind of has them
Speaker 1: ranked as is their fifth best QB in football. What
Speaker 1: he did last year is nothing at him. I just
Speaker 1: believe NFL has a natural regression or we've like found
Speaker 1: the guy that's gonna go toe to toe with Mahomes.
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone could go toe to toe
Speaker 1: with the Mahomes though, So that's where I kind of
Speaker 1: fade the fade. But they are going to open in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: Houston's tools on paper just seemed great. NFL has a
Speaker 1: weird thing with super teams ever since that one Philly team.
Speaker 1: AR five is back for the Colts. God, that might
Speaker 1: be the game I'm most excited for in the one
Speaker 1: PM slay. Definitely Jacksonville Miami. I'll be honest, Miami kind
Speaker 1: of lost a lot of people by the end of
Speaker 1: last year. Let's see if they're back to being the
Speaker 1: greatest show on turf in what Jacksonville and if Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence can find it again or buy back in a
Speaker 1: little bit New Orleans Carolina. Just know, let's get those
Speaker 1: red zone clips and kind of same with the Giants
Speaker 1: in Minnesota for being honest. It's just being honest. Let's
Speaker 1: see if Milak neighbors has something special. We're obviously watching
Speaker 1: all the top players. Sam Darnold his rookie year with Minnesota,
Speaker 1: Let's see what he's got. Everyone loves him. That's your
Speaker 1: one o'clock slate, four PM. My Broncos at Seattle. Sure,
Speaker 1: I feel like we've seen that before. I'm not in
Speaker 1: on my Broncos until they bring me back in. The
Speaker 1: sick part with sports is they win one game against
Speaker 1: Gino and Seattle and a new coaching staff and I'll
Speaker 1: be in. But I'm just not in yet. Although people
Speaker 1: have been doing the like Bonix has been showing more
Speaker 1: than we thought. I just need to see it. I'm
Speaker 1: kind of all in on the Chargers, the Harball thing.
Speaker 1: Everywhere he goes, he makes better. There's not a lot
Speaker 1: of guys that you can look at their resume and
Speaker 1: say that, and he has justin Herbert like Harbaugh is
Speaker 1: the perfect man for that franchise, a sneakily cursed franchise.
Speaker 1: For a little bit that I'm in on them. They
Speaker 1: open with Vegas. I mean it is funny. I gotta
Speaker 1: find out who said the line. I was in one
Speaker 1: of the fantasy football shows and the guy said they
Speaker 1: were like people are talking about Justin Herbert and the
Speaker 1: Chargers passing offense like their Navy college football, like they're
Speaker 1: running a triple option, Like, yeah, they're gonna run the ball.
Speaker 1: You have to pass in today's NFL. And they have
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert. I know he's a little banged up, but
Speaker 1: we saw that guy tough it out big time. And
Speaker 1: what Harbaugh is. I am all in on the Chargers.
Speaker 1: I think their Vegas win toil is like eight and
Speaker 1: a half. I would be I might be in on
Speaker 1: that after recording this Cleveland in Dallas, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Cleveland two and a half point favorites at home. Cleveland
Speaker 1: defense is for real. This could be an ugly one.
Speaker 1: I mean, Deshaun's final ride potentially, It's been a lot
Speaker 1: of bad football out of him. With Dak and Den Boys,
Speaker 1: that feels like a must watch for all the wrong reasons.
Speaker 1: Washington at Tampa not too much. I love Jayden. I
Speaker 1: want to see what he looks like as a pro.
Speaker 1: I'll check in on that. People are selling pretty hard
Speaker 1: on Tampa for this year. I think that they had
Speaker 1: a lot of luck in there. I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: Baker found a second home and they got something going on.
Speaker 1: But that's not a game you're excited to watch, unlike
Speaker 1: the eight PM, where the Rams and Lions are gonna
Speaker 1: run it back. They played in the playoffs last year.
Speaker 1: Golf and Stafford quarterbacks traded for each other the same cities, Detroit,
Speaker 1: with all the hope in the world. Don't be shocked
Speaker 1: if that's a fun one. I mean a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: The rumors the Rams are gonna hammer the run this
Speaker 1: year and they're really good at that with Phoka Nakua
Speaker 1: and Cooper Cup on the outside. A lot of experts
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be the best play action team in
Speaker 1: the league because they got a smart veteran quarterback in
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. They're going to commit to the run. Mcmay's
Speaker 1: great at the run, he's great at drawing up plays.
Speaker 1: The Lions they got a taste, right if you believe
Speaker 1: in kind of that NBA, you need to get a
Speaker 1: taste to get over the hump. NFL doesn't exactly work
Speaker 1: that way, But God, do they believe in their what
Speaker 1: they're doing. It's gonna be some knockout, dragout football. And
Speaker 1: I don't be surprised if that game is electric and
Speaker 1: football is back full till sal Polo on Friday, Chiefs
Speaker 1: in Baltimore on Thursday with a full slate ending with
Speaker 1: that game Football finds a way, and then Monday Night
Speaker 1: Jets forty nine ers in San Francisco. Rogers is back
Speaker 1: the San franc Monday Night football again. Jesus, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm always in on the Niners. I think they've
Speaker 1: just become just moments away from getting it done. I
Speaker 1: think they have all the talent. I think the line's
Speaker 1: a little thinner than past years. But Trent Williams is back.
Speaker 1: He said he came back after my guy I told
Speaker 1: you guys about my fantasy draft and I mentioned one
Speaker 1: potential sleeper. It was Ricky Piersall. He got shot tough,
Speaker 1: He's okay. I think he was back practicing, so that's crazy,
Speaker 1: like in the abdomen too crazy world. Trent Williams said
Speaker 1: he came back because like life's bigger than that. Which
Speaker 1: whoa you wonder if a team rallies around that. I
Speaker 1: don't know. The Jets defense still supposed to be special,
Speaker 1: still might be, especially with Rogers at the helm. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna believe in the San Francisco forty nine ers. I
Speaker 1: think I got them at minus three and a half
Speaker 1: for our DraftKings against the spread League, where I had
Speaker 1: first picked, because I've won it back to back years. Braggadocious.
Speaker 1: Let's see. I'll just do a quick final around the
Speaker 1: horn of the divisions AFC East Bills. I do think
Speaker 1: the Jets have a chance to click. Maybe I'm dumb,
Speaker 1: like maybe Rogers is old and he hasn't been good
Speaker 1: in a little bit and it's just gonna be Jetsy
Speaker 1: as a getsy. I'm not in. I'll ride with Josh
Speaker 1: Allen till I die. AFC North Man God, I hope
Speaker 1: that becomes electric again. I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1: I love the Browns coach Stefanski. Tomlin finds a way
Speaker 1: to get five hundred or better. The Bengals. We did
Speaker 1: this last year. Burrow went out when they had Joe Burr.
Speaker 1: He's that guy in the Baltimore Ravens. AFC North football
Speaker 1: is alive and well. I wonder if the Steelers just
Speaker 1: have the bad year. Russ has been awful and he
Speaker 1: kind of got handed the gig. It has to happen
Speaker 1: at some point. No coach is invincible. But then they
Speaker 1: have stupid numbers with TJ. Watt on the field like
Speaker 1: he's their quarterback. And Russ was getting the ball to
Speaker 1: players safely in Denver, but they didn't have the playmakers
Speaker 1: and this team kind of does. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I wish I could write them off. A gun to
Speaker 1: my head, I'd go Baltimore. Lamar's that guy Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1: The defense is gross. AFC South, Will Levis, do I
Speaker 1: have a dark horse team. I'm not in on the Colts,
Speaker 1: which my two Jonathan Taylor fantasy drafts would tell you differently.
Speaker 1: I'm not in on the Colts. I do think Houston
Speaker 1: Houston will not be bad. I'm kind of out on
Speaker 1: the Jags Titans. I have no clue. I mean, new
Speaker 1: head coach Will Levis I want to like, but he
Speaker 1: gets hurt and I don't know if he's good. My
Speaker 1: AFC West, it's the Chiefs. It's the Chiefs and the
Speaker 1: Chargers coming out that I'm both them to make the playoffs,
Speaker 1: Broncos and Raiders. My God, in the NFC Eagles easy.
Speaker 1: I guess I've been out on the Cowboys. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Is that me just fading America's team?
Speaker 2: Do?
Speaker 1: I not believe in Dak. I think the Eagles are
Speaker 1: going to be back. They finished so poorly last year.
Speaker 1: I mean, it obviously leaves that window open for chaos
Speaker 1: to happen in it ending miserably, but God, they're so
Speaker 1: talented that it just can't. And the Cowboys, I feel
Speaker 1: like they could get thin quick if they like, if
Speaker 1: they were to lose ceede Lamb for three weeks. They're
Speaker 1: offensive options. It's not what you'd expect from the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: NFC Norris Division, I have this getting ugly. I think
Speaker 1: the Lions come back to earth a little bit. I
Speaker 1: think the Bears have a little more so in them.
Speaker 1: I think the Packers are consistently okay. And I think
Speaker 1: the Vikings tall head coach told you guys some of
Speaker 1: the Justin Jefferson numbers, Kevin O'Connell koc they had nobody's
Speaker 1: playing quarterback last year. Justin Jefferson still put up numbers.
Speaker 1: I think he's a really good head coach. I could
Speaker 1: see that being a sneaky division where all the teams
Speaker 1: end up over five hundred. Do I believe in that?
Speaker 1: I do right now? Why not hot takes not at all?
Speaker 1: NFC South, the Atlanta Falcons are the team that nobody.
Speaker 1: Nobody knows. Kirk's never been bad. The Falcons starting quarterback
Speaker 1: got cut this preseason, couldn't get a backup gig. So
Speaker 1: you're bringing in Kirk Cousins. They have the weapons. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm as seeing his believing guy, so I'm willing to
Speaker 1: be wrong on it, but I'm not in on Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I think they'll be better like I think Kirk will
Speaker 1: be Kirk. I don't know. I've seen the Kyle Pitts
Speaker 1: experiment too much, and maybe the quarterbacks have been that
Speaker 1: bad and he's a stud and he'll bounce back and
Speaker 1: people like Drake London and he was still fine with
Speaker 1: bad quarterback play. I get it, Bijon and how they
Speaker 1: mismanaged him last year. I get it. All the boxes
Speaker 1: to check are there, and maybe I shouldn't because I
Speaker 1: don't know. Who are the two teams last year that
Speaker 1: everyone thought we're gonna kick in a gear. I think
Speaker 1: it was the Lions. Everyone was in on and there
Speaker 1: was an AFC team I'm blanking not the Chiefs, and
Speaker 1: it kind of came to came to Fruition, or two
Speaker 1: years ago it was Philly and the Vikings. Everyone was like,
Speaker 1: these two teams are great, it's going to happen. Pretty much,
Speaker 1: everyone's in on the Falcons because every box you click
Speaker 1: there should be better. That division gets ugly and a
Speaker 1: new team takes over every year. So the stars are
Speaker 1: all pointing to Atlanta. I'm skeptical. I just haven't liked
Speaker 1: what's gone down there the past couple years so much
Speaker 1: that hey, maybe it's a breath of fresh air and
Speaker 1: Kirky's great new staff, all of it.
Speaker 2: It's right in front of them.
Speaker 1: It's right in front of them. It's tough because who
Speaker 1: are you going to be into? Give me the Bucks
Speaker 1: and Baker just becoming pests. Mike Evans is still there,
Speaker 1: Baker can get a ball to a best wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Godwin's still around, they don't hate their tight end White,
Speaker 1: the running back is okay, and that just might be
Speaker 1: enough for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So I guess that
Speaker 1: would be a hot Jake the NFC West. I love
Speaker 1: the Niners. I think they're just a program and everyone's
Speaker 1: in on the Rams and I'm in on them too.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna fight that. I think Stafford this could
Speaker 1: potentially be like a last ride. I think they've loaded
Speaker 1: up on the offensive weapons they figure it out on defense.
Speaker 1: Cardinals will be fine until Kyler gets banged up, and
Speaker 1: I love I love watching him play when he's healthy
Speaker 1: and good Seattle. They're just in a weird middle class
Speaker 1: right now. That's kind of nothing. So that was a
Speaker 1: little bit around the league. I told you guys, I'm
Speaker 1: going to bring in more football people during the weeks
Speaker 1: to break it down and get into it because, like
Speaker 1: I've told you, I watch it at the fan level.
Speaker 1: Guy at the bar track pretty closely know a lot
Speaker 1: of the names and places. It's also just a losing
Speaker 1: game because I was listening to another guy who comes
Speaker 1: out with the top one hundred players list every year
Speaker 1: and he's like, it's my favorite piece to do, and
Speaker 1: he goes by mid season. I wish I could delete
Speaker 1: it off the internet. Football in every sport, moves pretty quick.
Speaker 1: The good news is for two months football and baseball, well,
Speaker 1: whoa n be able to sneaking up. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's a sports apocalypse. I think October it is.
Speaker 1: I think you get one of those days. It's like
Speaker 1: we got all four games on one day. Can't wait,
Speaker 1: Art Scott come check it all out with us. They're
Speaker 1: gonna be streaming the football games tomorrow. I'll be there Sunday.
Speaker 1: I guess I will be too. Get ready for some football.
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