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Speaker 1: What's that at the foot of my bed.

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Speaker 2: It's spooky.

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Speaker 1: I'm jooky. I'm really sure it's dead.

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Speaker 3: It's coming this way.

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Speaker 4: Wait a minute, I said.

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Speaker 1: By Ross Dressed and hey boo, it's me Ros Dress flas.

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Speaker 1: I hope that everybody is still staying safe and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, doing doing well, being healthy and keeping busy.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy to be here giving you some uh some content.

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Speaker 1: I know next week I'm going to be doing some

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Speaker 1: more mini episodes because people seem to enjoy those, so

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Speaker 1: look out for that. But today I got to catch

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Speaker 1: up with some of you, our listeners. So I talked

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Speaker 1: to four listeners and we have all kinds of stories

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Speaker 1: coming at you today. You're gonna hear all different different

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Speaker 1: kinds of stories. You're even gonna hear some different viewpoints

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Speaker 1: on demons. It's it's great, so let's just get it started.

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Speaker 1: Here's the listeners on with the show. Hi Tyler, Hi,

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Speaker 1: where are you calling from?

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Speaker 5: I am currently calling from Baltimore. I'm originally from the

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Speaker 5: New Orleans area.

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Speaker 1: Ah. Interesting, because you sent me an email that I

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Speaker 1: was like, wait a minute, okay, we have to you

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Speaker 1: have to be on this show. And there's so much

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Speaker 1: there was so much in there. There was lots of

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Speaker 1: sounds like kind of witchcraft stuff and a reptilian creature.

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Speaker 1: You've seen shadow people. I don't even know where to begin.

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Speaker 1: So what's the story?

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Speaker 6: You do?

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Speaker 1: You summon demons?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 2: So I.

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Speaker 5: I throughout early childhood, all the way up until the

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Speaker 5: present I'm thirty now, have been studying the occult, not

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Speaker 5: just like demons and angels, but planetary energy, her meticism,

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Speaker 5: pretty much everything that was available in the early nineteen

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Speaker 5: nineties Internet, which was a lot more than I think

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Speaker 5: most people knew. And so my demon conjuring days are

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Speaker 5: pretty much limited to early high school because that's when

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Speaker 5: you do that.

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 5: Ye. My biggest demon conjuring experience that I remember being

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Speaker 5: one that if someone elsewhere in the room they would

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Speaker 5: have had a really palpable experience, actually started pretty simply.

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Speaker 1: Or Banale.

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Speaker 5: I had lost in astronomy textbook, which happened to be

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Speaker 5: like one hundred and sixty five dollars, and I tried

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Speaker 5: everything on my own, from like you know, your candle

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Speaker 5: spell a la charmed to just like honestly praying to

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Speaker 5: find the textbook and never did. So I got a

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Speaker 5: little desperate and wanted to try some of the skills

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Speaker 5: I had been reading in books. So I constructed the

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Speaker 5: circle of the Art and the triangle of Solomon, which

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Speaker 5: are the two main things you need in order to

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Speaker 5: summon a demon. And I found the appropriate demon in

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Speaker 5: The Lesser Key of Solomon. For anyone interested, that demon's

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Speaker 5: name is Vasigo the Assgo, and I believe he's the

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Speaker 5: third of seventy two demons listed.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know anything about any of this, but

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Speaker 1: I'm fascinated.

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Speaker 5: So they comes from a book called The Lesser Key

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Speaker 5: of Solomon, which probably does not come from King Solomon.

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Speaker 5: But the mythology is that Solomon was tasked with building

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Speaker 5: a human, which technically outranks a demon. He conjured them

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Speaker 5: to do his bidding. And so the book is a

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Speaker 5: list of demons that were used in that act and

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Speaker 5: what they're what they can be called on for.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, so imagine like a fourteen year old kid

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Speaker 5: And once I switched there, I really started noticing something

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Speaker 5: that point I put aside my fear of, oh well,

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Speaker 5: I think I may actually have a demon in my

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Speaker 5: like if if Moses could control you, or if King

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Speaker 5: Solomon could control you, by damn it, I have the

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Speaker 5: reptilian looking thing. That's later, I could just get a

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Speaker 5: question like look I've lost this textbook. This is the

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Speaker 5: first time I've tried anything like this. I think this

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Speaker 1: What you're owed.

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Speaker 5: You know you already rule in health, so that should

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Speaker 5: be good enough for you. And I need the textbook back.

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Speaker 5: And if you're wondering, how like question answer happened, it

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Speaker 1: But were you terrified?

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Speaker 5: I was terrified of the energy present in the room.

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Speaker 5: I concluded politely. I gave the spirit what's called a

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Speaker 2: I lived there.

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Speaker 5: But the next day the book was returned. How what

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 5: I'd been waiting the whole semester for that to happen.

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Speaker 1: So after that experience where you pro demon conjuring for

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Speaker 1: different things in life.

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, I use other forms of magic,

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Speaker 5: like primarily like sigil work or spirit creation to get

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Speaker 5: when you ask a spirit to do things for you,

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Speaker 5: Like you know, you can ask for money, and then

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Speaker 5: I devise things on my own. I would say, though,

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Speaker 5: that angels are by far more terrifying than demons. Why

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Speaker 3: Like, it wants.

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Speaker 5: Things, It understands materiality, it sees shades of gray. It

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Speaker 1: Sex with people who are manipulative.

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Speaker 5: You know, that doesn't necessarily stop people, whereas an angel

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Speaker 5: like is in a different realm of like sensorium entirely.

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Speaker 5: So what's important to it is something that you cannot

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Speaker 5: well be destroying you.

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Speaker 3: Like You're just not sure.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, I guess I've never talked to somebody that

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Speaker 1: I'm very fascinated. Okay, So tell me about seeing a

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Speaker 5: Okay, So that was something completely separate from any like

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Speaker 1: Oh Cheers, the sitcom. Yeah, I was thinking Netflix Cheer.

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Speaker 5: like Alex Mack from Nickelodeon if you remember that.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So it changed like phases, so it was no

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Speaker 1: I can tell you've given this some thought. You what

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Speaker 1: To talk about them.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying that there's these shadow people that are

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Speaker 5: they were. They dissipated as soon as I started to

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Speaker 1: Now, do you think that, since you have had so

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Speaker 5: I think once you have the interest and you begin

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Speaker 5: But I know that there are people who desperately want

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well again, I mean that's been me lately. I

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Speaker 5: I think it's you know, I think a good place

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Speaker 1: To be haunted?

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Speaker 5: Hmm okay, because you know, like I've worked in mental

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Speaker 5: But I've been to people's houses that were built like

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Speaker 1: Really because of like what happened on the land before

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Speaker 5: When my great grandmother used to live on Valence Street

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Speaker 5: Like she wouldn't have the power to like throw a

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Speaker 1: WHOA interesting, So maybe if you're in hell, like you

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Speaker 5: I think it's I think it's like a rational line

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Speaker 3: Let you know.

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Speaker 5: And we like m I have family who lived on

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Speaker 5: Like you know, one of my one of my grandmothers,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, thank you so much for sharing all this.

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Speaker 5: Oh you're so welcome.

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Speaker 1: At least. Where are you Texas, US?

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Speaker 7: Yes, I'm in Dallas.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. You know I lived there for like

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Speaker 1: I had a good time. I lived in like Bedford, Texas.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was cool.

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Speaker 7: That's really close to where I'm at. That's so funny.

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Speaker 1: Way wait what yes.

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Speaker 7: Okay, I'm officially starting to get creeped out.

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Speaker 1: Well, I know, we had a weird thing happened where

444
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:29,359
Speaker 1: you like just messaged me to be on a listener episode,

445
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: and then I had someone drop out, like right around

446
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: the same time you messaged me, and I was like, well,

447
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: can you do it today because we got an open

448
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: spot and it worked out. It's awesome. What you know,

449
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 1: this is so funny.

450
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,159
Speaker 7: This is like the second thing like that that's happened

451
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 7: to me this week where it's like a creepy coincidence.

452
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 7: Do you ever have weeks like that where all these

453
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 7: weird things keep happening totally of that There's a girl

454
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 7: that I've been following forever on Instagram, and I reached

455
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 7: out to her this week and we found out that

456
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 7: I briefly lived in Chicago and apparently the house that

457
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 7: I lived at was like two minutes from the house

458
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 7: she grew up in. Crazy.

459
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: Wow, I know what is the story? You said? The

460
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: story you said? He sounds interesting. I don't know if

461
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: I've had anybody tell one like this on the show yet.

462
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: And so you you've got uh, you got lost and found,

463
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: you found your way back paranormally.

464
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 7: Yes, it sounds weird. So I'm not a big religious person.

465
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 7: I've told some people this story and they think it's

466
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 7: like a guardian angel story, but I don't necessarily see

467
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 7: it that way. So I'll see what you think. But

468
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 7: I was younger. I was visiting my dad in Midland,

469
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 7: Odessa at the time. He lived separately from where my

470
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 7: mom and I lived, and while at work, my stepmom,

471
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 7: oh god, I want to say five or six pretty young?

472
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 4: Wow?

473
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, really young, and my step mom decided I

474
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 7: had a baby sister at the time, that she was

475
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 7: going to take us out of the house and in

476
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 7: their little subdivision, they had a church, and the church

477
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 7: had a playground, so she thought, you know, I'll go

478
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 7: on a walk, just take the kids to the playground

479
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 7: kill some times. So I was running ahead of her

480
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 7: and the stroller and I saw the playground, so I

481
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 7: just kind of took off because we'd been walking for

482
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 7: a while, and I turned back around. I had gone

483
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,200
Speaker 7: on the swing set and I just started swinging because

484
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 7: I assumed, you know, she's right behind me. She knows

485
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 7: I'm going to the playground. So I was swinging for

486
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 7: a while, and then I got off the swing and

487
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 7: I looked back down the road where the playground was

488
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 7: off of and like her and my sister were totally gone.

489
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 7: I didn't see my step mom. The stroller was gone,

490
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 7: and I'm like, that's so weird. I mean, she was

491
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 7: right behind me. I don't understand where she thought I

492
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 7: was going.

493
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: That's like the biggest ir. When I was a little kid,

494
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 1: I got lost in in like an office depot or

495
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: something like that, just a couple of minutes. But that

496
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: is the scariest thing ever.

497
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 7: When you're a child, it is scary and it well,

498
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 7: I mean to most kids that would be their panic moment.

499
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 7: But I'm like, eh, whatever, I'll keep playing for a while,

500
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 7: she'll sign me. So I just kind of went back

501
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 7: to doing my own thing. But you know, it started

502
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 7: to get later, and I'm like, ah, right, I know

503
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 7: I've been here for a while and she's still not here.

504
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 7: I mean, something's going on. So like in this church

505
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 7: parking lot, there's like a church, a playground, and a

506
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 7: parking lot that's kind of for both of them. So

507
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 7: I walked over to the parking lot and I sat

508
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 7: down on one of those like curbs, you know where

509
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 7: the cars can park, the little yellow concrete slab, and

510
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 7: I was trying to figure out, Okay, what do I do?

511
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,719
Speaker 7: And then I started to really panic because I couldn't

512
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 7: remember how to get back to my dad's house, like

513
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 7: the path that we took to get, you know, to

514
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 7: the playground and all that. Because I wasn't paying attention,

515
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 7: and I saw that there was these guys across the

516
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 7: street in a house, older guys probably like my dad's age,

517
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 7: and they were packing up a car with like coolers

518
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 7: and lawn chairs. I'm like, well, I could go ask them,

519
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 7: but I don't think I'm supposed to be talking to

520
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 7: older guys that I don't know. So I just started

521
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 7: trying in this church parking lot because I was so

522
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 7: scared and I didn't know what to do. And I

523
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 7: look up and I see this old woman who's coming

524
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 7: out of the garage that these guys, you know, are

525
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 7: loading their car into or whatever. And she walks up

526
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 7: to me and she's like, hi, honey, are you okay?

527
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 7: What's the matter? And I said no, you know, I

528
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 7: lost my step mom and I don't remember how to

529
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 7: get back to my dad's house. And she said, well,

530
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 7: can I sit with you for a minute? And I

531
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 7: said yeah, sure, And she said, I tell you what,

532
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 7: I bet you your step mom is out looking for

533
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 7: you right now. I think that let's just stay put

534
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 7: and see if maybe she comes back around and we

535
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 7: can find her. And if not, then we'll see if

536
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 7: we can call your dad and get him to come

537
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 7: get you. And I said okay. So I sat with

538
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 7: her for probably twenty thirty minutes, and we just kind

539
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 7: of sat there and she kept talking to me. I

540
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,239
Speaker 7: couldn't remember what she was wearing, what she looked like.

541
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 7: I just remembered that her eyes like. I made eye

542
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 7: contact with her and immediately felt calm, like everything was

543
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 7: gonna be okay. We were going to figure this out.

544
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 7: It wasn't a big deal. And I thought, oh, it's

545
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 7: just because she's an adult. You know, kids always feel

546
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 7: safe around adults, and.

547
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: Specially older women. I feel like a grandma figure is

548
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: like the most comforting probably.

549
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 7: Right, most grandmas are nice, yeah, and I mean especially

550
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 7: southern grandma's, you know. So we waited and there were

551
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 7: a couple of ladies that walked by, and she kept

552
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 7: turning to me and saying, well, is that your stepmom?

553
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 7: And I'd say no. And finally it had been forever

554
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 7: I see my stepmom, and I got so excited I

555
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 7: just took off and I went to her. I mean,

556
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 7: apparently that's what I was good at doing back then.

557
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 7: It's just taking off. And she was so mad at me,

558
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 7: and she yelled at me, and she said, well, you know,

559
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 7: I don't know why you were in the parking lot

560
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 7: when I was looking for you in the playground. And

561
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 7: I said, oh, well, I went and sat there then

562
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 7: I was sitting with the old lady. And she's like, what,

563
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 7: old lady, you were sitting by yourself when I saw you,

564
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 7: And I said, no, that old lady that she was

565
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,479
Speaker 7: sitting right next to me. She came from that house,

566
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 7: and the guys were kind of looking at us, and

567
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 7: my stepmom just dismissively was like, oh okay, And so

568
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 7: she shouted to one of them and said, hey, tell

569
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 7: your mom thank you for sitting with my kid, and

570
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 7: they gave her the weirdest look, like the fuck is

571
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 7: she talking about. So apparently it was just me that

572
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 7: saw the old lady. I don't know if maybe she

573
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 7: haunted the house, because I specifically saw her walk out

574
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 7: of that garage. I don't know where she went, but

575
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 7: I remember her sitting next to me, And my stepmom

576
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 7: said that when she turned the corner she saw me

577
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 7: sitting there in the parking lot, but she said I

578
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 7: was sitting alone.

579
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well that's a very sweet story.

580
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 4: It is.

581
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 7: It's beaten then it's also kind of creepy.

582
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: It is creepy. But I think, especially when you're very

583
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: young like that, you don't even really know, Like I mean,

584
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: that's like so much stuff is so real to you,

585
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: like even imaginary friends, Like it's probably hard to even

586
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 1: determine what is real and what isn't. You As you

587
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: get older, you start to learn what is really creepy

588
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: and what isn't and I'm sure that. I mean, were

589
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: you terrified when you were little, after you found out

590
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: that she wasn't really there?

591
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, I got really scared. And because she she looked

592
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 7: exactly like you or me. I mean, she didn't look

593
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 7: like an apparition, she didn't have a weird glow, she

594
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 7: wasn't blurry. I mean she looked and I thought, oh

595
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 7: my god, if she looked so real, how many other

596
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 7: people have I seen that have just looked like completely

597
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 7: normal people but were actually not there?

598
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, that's what I mean. Oh wow, you see

599
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: dead people? Yeah, so very creepy, like the sixth sense.

600
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 7: No, I don't want to six I'm too scared.

601
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 1: Well well yeah, I mean, like I said, that could

602
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: have been it could have been a way creepier ghost.

603
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: It sounds like a really sweet Yes, that's true. I

604
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: mean yeah, I can see where people would interpret that

605
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: as like a guardian angel. I mean, she she comforted you.

606
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,479
Speaker 8: But that's true.

607
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 7: And I mean it was like a church parking lot,

608
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 7: So I get it that people could associate the two.

609
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 7: But you know, I don't know, I feel like when

610
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 7: I'm a ghost, i'd rather just do mischievous stuff. It's

611
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 7: more fun. But I guess every once in a while

612
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 7: you like to do something nice. You're like, all right, I've.

613
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: Been I'll take off the white sheet that i've been,

614
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 1: you know, spooking people with and the Yeah, just sit

615
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 1: down and be nice to a little kid friend moment.

616
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 7: Exactly. You do your one nice thing and then you

617
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 7: can go back to being a jerk again.

618
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: I've been ghosted too, Tyler from Saint Petersburg, Florida? Is

619
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: that where you said? Yeah?

620
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: Saint Petersburg, Florida.

621
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: Isn't that like? Wait, Saint Petersburg, is that like the

622
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: really old or am I thinking of someplace else? What's

623
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: like the it's.

624
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 4: Kind of like a greater Tampa area, you know. It's

625
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 4: kind of like it's it's like the Brooklyn to the Manhattan.

626
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 4: I'm originally from New York South. It's like the easiest

627
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 4: reference for me to make.

628
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: Yes, Tampa the Manhattan of the southeast.

629
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

630
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: So wait a minute, you stayed at a haunted hotel?

631
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

632
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 4: I mean so I have like a lot of experiences

633
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 4: with ghosts, Like, well.

634
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: Let's hear them. I got time, you know, where I

635
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: have to be I have nowhere to be until June eighth.

636
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 4: Oh, like literally, I have nothing to do.

637
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 3: Like I've been looking foward to this for like days.

638
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 6: Too.

639
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 3: I remember on my phone like ready for this interaction.

640
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so excited. Okay, Well tell me some ghost stories.

641
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 4: Well I'm like kind of I know you say you're

642
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 4: sensy like to the spirits, like they kind of sense you.

643
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 4: I'm also very sensy to that stuff, but like I'm

644
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 4: very open to it. Like I made a ouiji board

645
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 4: so I could talk to them, like I I've gotten

646
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 4: into taro stuff like that. So I'm like really into

647
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 4: like kind of like that spiritual side of it. And

648
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 4: it's okay cool because it's something that's like opened up

649
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 4: a lot of like I guess, like levels of communication

650
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 4: with like things that like I don't know, not in

651
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 4: this realm type. So I'm really like sensy to that stuff.

652
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 4: And I feel like as a kid, I was even

653
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 4: more open to it. But obviously, like as a kid,

654
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 4: like if a ghost approaches you, you're scared, like so it's

655
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 4: like the scariest thing ever.

656
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, what's the first time you encountered it? Goes?

657
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 4: The first time I can't think of like a specific

658
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 4: like first time, but I definitely had like encounters and

659
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 4: like the story I sent you about staying in the

660
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 4: haunted hotel was definitely like the most personal and like

661
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 4: the one that stands.

662
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 3: Out the most.

663
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: Okay, let's hear it.

664
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 4: So my family I live in like a big Irish

665
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 4: family of six, and we just like over summers, pile

666
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 4: into our minivan and drive all around the country and

667
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 4: do stuff like that and stay at little hotels and

668
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 4: just do kind of like fun family trips like that.

669
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 4: So we ended up staying in this hotel as a

670
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,799
Speaker 4: result of one of those trips. We were visiting some

671
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 4: caverns in Pennsylvania. They're called like the lore Cabin caverns.

672
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know.

673
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 4: I tried liking up the name of the hotel to

674
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 4: tell the story, and I couldn't find it. Like I

675
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 4: called the hotel to ask if they knew about like

676
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 4: hauntings or anything like that, and they said no. But

677
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 4: we had like a specific interaction with some locals that

678
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 4: said that the hotel we were staying in was absolutely

679
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 4: haunted and like everyone knows it.

680
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: So I don't know, so anybody that's listening and lives

681
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: in that area. Let us know what it's called.

682
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I tried to do some research and my

683
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 4: mom thinks that the name of it was the Laurie

684
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,680
Speaker 4: Cavern Cabin Motel something like that. So I tried looking

685
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 4: up that and I couldn't find anything, obviously, so I

686
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 4: don't know. So we were looking for a place to

687
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 4: stay after we were checking out these beautiful cab or what

688
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 4: are the caverns with the lagmites and stuff like that,

689
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 4: you go like underground into a cave.

690
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, totally, yeah, something like that.

691
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 4: They were gorgeous, I remember that, and we were we

692
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 4: wanted to find a place in town to stay the

693
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 4: night because there was like six of us when we're

694
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 4: all like cranky little kids and wanted.

695
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: To go to bed and whatever. So our parents found.

696
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 4: This really cheap and it was the only available place

697
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 4: obviously for a reason now knowing what happened, but it

698
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 4: was the only open place there and we it was

699
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 4: like this little town home. It really wasn't like a

700
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 4: hotel room, which was the weird thing about it was

701
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 4: it had like a kitchenette, a living room, and like

702
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 4: an entire upstairs where the bedrooms were so while we

703
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 4: were sleeping, everyone went to bed. I was sharing a

704
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 4: room with my brother, and my brother and sister were

705
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 4: sharing a room. We finally got to bed, and it

706
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 4: was late. I was still watching TV, just trying to

707
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 4: go to bed. I didn't really sleep as a kid,

708
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 4: because I don't know, I was like a weird little

709
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 4: kid who would just always stay awake and like, So

710
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 4: maybe that's why I had so many experiences with ghosts.

711
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 7: I don't know.

712
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe things are just happening all the time and

713
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: people are just sleeping through it.

714
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 4: Honestly, I'm pretty sure that's the thing, because I felt

715
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 4: feel like if I like had stayed up more and

716
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 4: like experienced like more of what was happening, especially at

717
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 4: this hotel, I probably would have like talked to a

718
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 4: ghost or something. So in hindsight, like, I'm kind of

719
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 4: like sad that I didn't have like enough bravery to

720
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,359
Speaker 4: like work up and go and meet the ghost at

721
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 4: this hotel.

722
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: But oh well, oh god, Okay, so what happened? Was

723
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 1: it like a a happy ghost or a main ghost?

724
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 1: What do you think?

725
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 4: Oh?

726
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 3: I don't really know.

727
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 4: I was like laying in bed and I could hear

728
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 4: somebody walking up and down the stairs because it was

729
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 4: like kind of carpeted floor, so it made that like

730
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 4: very distinct sound of like somebody, like, you know, the

731
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 4: ruffled footsteps going up and downstairs.

732
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 3: And my little brother had already gone.

733
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 4: Asleep, because I was trying to talk to him to

734
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 4: see if he if he heard it, because I thought

735
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 4: everyone was asleep.

736
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:27,439
Speaker 3: It was about like maybe two thirty am, not quite

737
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 3: the witching hour.

738
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 4: I know that it was like two thirty am, and

739
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 4: I could hear them walking up and down and I

740
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 4: was like, this is really weird. And then the light

741
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 4: turned on outside the room, which was even more weird

742
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 4: because I was like, I thought my parents were asleep,

743
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 4: so I could hear the footsteps still going up and

744
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 4: down the stairs, so I didn't know if my parents

745
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 4: were doing something or whatever, so I like being the

746
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 4: curious kid I was. I stuck my head out the door,

747
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 4: and there was nobody there, so I was like, uh,

748
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 4: this is weird. So I started to kind of get

749
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 4: freaked out at this point, but I didn't want.

750
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 3: To leave my room. And then I kept hearing the

751
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 3: footsteps again.

752
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 4: They kept going up and down the stairs, up and

753
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 4: down the stairs, and I was get really freaked out.

754
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 4: And then the footsteps stopped when they got up the

755
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 4: stairs again, and I saw a shadow underneath the door. Yeah,

756
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 4: like a very distinct shadow. So I was like, okay,

757
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 4: this must be my dad. I was trying to like

758
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,479
Speaker 4: talk some sense into myself and like talk some sense

759
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 4: into the situation. And then I was like, oh, my dad,

760
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 4: he's just getting some water. I don't know, maybe he's

761
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 4: getting water for my mom, my brother, my sister, I

762
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 4: don't know. He's going up and down the stairs, and

763
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 4: I see his shadow and he's coming over to my door.

764
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 4: And I'm like, okay, so this is just my dad

765
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 4: coming over my door. And the shadow stops. I hear

766
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 4: the footprints go, and they're going and they stop right

767
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 4: outside the door, and the shadows right outside the door.

768
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 4: And so I distinctly see a shadow of a person

769
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 4: with the light coming through of a person right outside

770
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 4: the door. And they don't come in, and nothing happens,

771
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 4: and I can still see the shadow, they'll see the shot.

772
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, what's going on?

773
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 4: So I finally got out of bed and I opened

774
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 4: the door and there was nobody there, weird, and there

775
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 4: was definitely, Like, as I was walking up to the door,

776
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 4: there was definitely the shadow of.

777
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 3: A person standing just right on the other side of

778
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:18,279
Speaker 3: the door.

779
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. So then did you what did you do? You

780
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: just went back to bed? Did you think it was

781
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 1: a ghost? No?

782
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 4: I basically shot my pants and I got in bed

783
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 4: with my little brother and he was really mad and

784
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 4: confused as to what was happening. I was like, I

785
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 4: can't do this anymore. I need to sleep in the

786
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 4: bed of somebody because I'm so freaked out.

787
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: N sorry, I shot in your bed.

788
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 4: No.

789
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: I was literally so scared.

790
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 4: Come morning time, my older brother was talking to my

791
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 4: mom about something in the kitchen and I could hear them,

792
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 4: and my mom says to him, She's like, okay, well,

793
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 4: don't say anything to your siblings. I don't want them

794
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 4: to get freaked out. And I heard them say that.

795
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 4: So I walked right and I'm like, what do you

796
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:04,760
Speaker 4: not want to say here? And my older brother was like, oh, well,

797
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 4: last night my TV went on in the middle of

798
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 4: the night and it was on a channel that we

799
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 4: weren't watching before we went to bed, and it just

800
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 4: kind of scared me a little bit, which is what

801
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 4: he said and then as we got older, he told

802
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 4: us it turned onto like a really scary movie, Like

803
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 4: the TV went on to just this really scary movie

804
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 4: on a channel that they weren't watching before they went

805
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:30,240
Speaker 4: to bed, in just the middle of the night. M Yeah,

806
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 4: and he was like, I I guess he got really

807
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 4: freaked out by that. And my dad didn't tell us

808
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 4: this until way later. But that same night he had

809
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 4: heard the same footprints going up and down the stairs

810
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 4: and he thought somebody was trying to break into the

811
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 4: motel and or he thought somebody had broken in.

812
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 3: So he got out of bed and was.

813
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 4: Like looking around and he slept on the couch that

814
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 4: night because he thought somebody was like breaking in or

815
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 4: trying to break in, because he could hear like footprints

816
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 4: with somebody or like the sound of somebody walking around

817
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 4: the hotel.

818
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: Wow.

819
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that was just all the same night thing.

820
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 1: That place sounds huge.

821
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was really big. It was like really weird

822
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 4: that we just happened to find this place. It was

823
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 4: like basically a town home, not a hotel.

824
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow, okay, I want to know more about this place.

825
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to figure this one out.

826
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that was the that was like the

827
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 4: really distinct thing because I remember that so vividly because

828
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 4: it was so freaky. You just kind of expected somebody

829
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 4: to be on the other side of that door, right,

830
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 4: like you could see the shadow of them. I could

831
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 4: pretty much see like their feet on the other side

832
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 4: of the door.

833
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 1: Oh, so, what are your other experiences?

834
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 4: So I use the Ouiji board a lot, and in

835
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 4: college I had kind of convinced my friends like try

836
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 4: it out, and I was like, it's not freaky, Like

837
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 4: you've got a lot of answers, Like if you're trying

838
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 4: to figure something out, it's really cool and you can

839
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 4: kind of tell, like when you do it, if the

840
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 4: spirit you're communicating with is like a bad spirit or

841
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 4: a good spirit. Like as soon as you get that connection,

842
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 4: that initial hey, is somebody here and it moves to Yes,

843
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 4: you just get a vibe in the room.

844
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: But what if it's somebody that's doing an impression of

845
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: a good person?

846
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 4: See I've kind of thought of that before, but like

847
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 4: you can just kind of tell, like you just get

848
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 4: like a vibe, like like an energy vibe, like I

849
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 4: don't know, like an uneasiness, especially if it's like we've

850
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 4: gotten times where like, oh, are you a good spirit?

851
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 4: But we feel uneasy about them, so we say no

852
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 4: to them. So I feel like spirits can pretend, but

853
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 4: I can't. I feel like if you like can pick

854
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 4: up on like the energy of them, like they're not

855
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 4: going to fool you.

856
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: Okay. So now this is me just truly curious about

857
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: all different kinds of people's beliefs. When you are doing

858
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: something like that, who do you think is answering? Like

859
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 1: do you think that it's like a spirit that is

860
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: just hovering over the world and can see everything? Or

861
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: who do you think, like what is the reasoning behind that?

862
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: Cause if you're just asking, like, can someone tell me

863
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: is this a yes or no question? Like, so you're

864
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: not directly contacting somebody, So who are you? Who are

865
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: you hoping you're talking to?

866
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like so I get that, Like that's kind of

867
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 4: a question I'm interested in figuring out myself.

868
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 3: And about two weeks.

869
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 4: Ago, me and my roommate were doing it and Luigi

870
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 4: Boyd was not responding to any of my questions, but

871
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 4: it was only responding to her questions, and she decided

872
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 4: to start asking like kind of just these like oddball

873
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 4: out there questions about like kind of like what this

874
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 4: thing is that we're talking to, and it responded to

875
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 4: her it said that it was like an extra extraterrestrial

876
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 4: or something. No, it was from like another dimension or

877
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 4: something like that. So it is this weird alien type

878
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 4: vibe I guess I got from it. Yeah, so I

879
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 4: don't know if maybe it's like a glimpse, like what

880
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 4: is it like a glitch in the system or something

881
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 4: like that with something from a different dimension talking to us.

882
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 4: But I don't really know how that all works. Like, yeah,

883
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 4: I've also definitely talked to like specific dead people before,

884
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 4: so I don't really know. Like maybe it's like you're

885
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 4: like fishing for ghosts and like the Uigi board is

886
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 4: the bait and whatever bites the bait.

887
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: Okay, Now, I don't know if you were ever around

888
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: for this, but there was this wonderful thing that eventually

889
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: turned into just a straight up porn thing. But it

890
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: was it was chat Roulette.

891
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 3: Did you ever oh that rock?

892
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 4: I'm twenty two years old, Like I was in middle

893
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 4: school when Chatroulette was a hot thing.

894
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: Okay, now I was a little older than that, but

895
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: when it first came out, I thought it was the

896
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: coolest thing in the world because you could just you

897
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: just sign onto this website and you just like scan

898
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: around like you just get you know, somebody pops up

899
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 1: from a different country and you can just like talk

900
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: to them and then like sometimes they X out of you,

901
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: you X out of them, you go to the next person.

902
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: Then it just have a bunch of dicks. Literally, that's

903
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: kind of what it feels like, where you're like, all right,

904
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 1: who's who's here to talk? And it might be like

905
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: a demon, it might be like a person that is dead,

906
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,720
Speaker 1: or it could be I don't know, some other entity

907
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: that sees all. But you never know what you're gonna get.

908
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,520
Speaker 1: But what I get afraid of when you're doing a

909
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: oigi board is that you might end up with a

910
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 1: creepy pervert or I mean, like the wrong person, the

911
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: one that you're not looking for.

912
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 3: Didn't you have.

913
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 4: A wigi board that brought like a demon into your

914
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 4: house and would tap on the walls and stuff like I.

915
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: Think so, but I never used it. It was that

916
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: was just a demon that came with it.

917
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, I don't know.

918
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 4: It's just like I feel like anything could be haunted

919
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 4: type thing or they can. They say, quote unquote, it's

920
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 4: like a haunted board.

921
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

922
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, I kind of like

923
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 4: the idea that if you like go into like a

924
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 4: wigi board session or like even like a seance or

925
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 4: anything like that with good intentions and good energy, that

926
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 4: you'll get good intentions and.

927
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 3: Good energy out of it.

928
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I feel like a lot of people going

929
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 4: really scared and fearful of it. So like maybe that's why,

930
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 4: like the anxiety kind of like summons like these like

931
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 4: spooky entities to come and.

932
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 5: Freak people out.

933
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 3: But I don't know.

934
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 4: I'm an Aquarius, so nothing really bothers me like that,

935
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 4: and I just go into the.

936
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 3: Very open mind.

937
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for talking with me. You're a delight.

938
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,479
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I am here with Heather High Heather.

939
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 2: Where are you, hi, Rod, I'm in Houston, Texas.

940
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: Okay, I love it. You sent me this. You send

941
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: me this email. You have like so many stories of

942
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: the paranormal variety, and I want to hear all about them.

943
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 2: Yes, it's it's It truly runs in a family.

944
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 6: It's funny because when people come into my family, like

945
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 6: they get married in and things like that, like the like,

946
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:01,320
Speaker 6: what is going on?

947
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: Ready, there's gonna be some goats.

948
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, is getting used to it?

949
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: Okay, So you grew up in a haunted home.

950
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 6: So when I was growing up, my parents and I

951
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 6: I'm an only child. So the three of us lived

952
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 6: in this apartment and next door to our apartment, the

953
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 6: apartment next door that had like the adjoining wall, a

954
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 6: man had committed suicide in there, and so some of

955
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 6: the people that lived in that apartment they would see

956
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 6: like orbs and all kinds of things in the apartment.

957
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 6: So when I was like about two, I think I

958
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 6: was like a little busy kit and my parents said

959
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 6: that I was standing there and I was like talking

960
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 6: to something on the wall, and they were trying.

961
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,280
Speaker 2: To figure out what I was doing.

962
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 6: And I opened up my arms and like started running

963
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 6: to it like I was going to hug somebody.

964
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, and I was.

965
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 2: I just think, So it's been like my entire tea

966
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: of the rest of my life.

967
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 1: Oh wait, so long were you there at that?

968
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 6: So we were in that apartment complex for nineteen years and.

969
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 2: Then but we changed from that apartment.

970
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 6: We moved into a larger apartment right down like the

971
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 6: hallway when I was about like four, But that other

972
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 6: apartment was like pretty creepy too, Like and you know,

973
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 6: like when you're somewhere and you just always feel like

974
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 6: somebody's watching you, but there's nobody there. And yeah, like

975
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 6: my border colliague that we had at the time, Tina,

976
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 6: she would like look up in the corners of the

977
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 6: walls and start like barking and freaking out and like

978
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 6: running hide under the bed. And she was really like

979
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,879
Speaker 6: a very tame, little, like really sweet dog. But when

980
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 6: she would do that, like if we would try to

981
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 6: pull her out from under the bed, she would try

982
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 6: to bite us because she was so afraid of whatever

983
00:51:58,920 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 6: she was.

984
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 2: Seeing, but we couldn't see it, you know. Yeah, I

985
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 2: was like, really creepy.

986
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 1: Do you think it was that same guy the whole time?

987
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 6: You know what?

988
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: In a way, I think so.

989
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 6: But then in a way, I feel like, like myself

990
00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 6: and like some of my mom and like some of

991
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 6: my other family, I feel like that type of thing

992
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 6: is like drawn to us, maybe because we do believe

993
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 6: in it so much that I don't know if it

994
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 6: was like, but it definitely whatever was at our old place,

995
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 6: it definitely felt like not of the nice cast for

996
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 6: the really ghost variety.

997
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 2: It was definitely mean. It was definitely like sinister for

998
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 2: some reason.

999
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, you guys have premonitions.

1000
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that far is really creepy.

1001
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 6: I mean that the ghost are not creevy, but like

1002
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 6: a lot like myself, my mom, one of my cousins, like,

1003
00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 6: we all get like these really weird premonitions, and it's

1004
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 6: really bad because like most of the time it is

1005
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 6: not of like it's not like us winning the lottery, right,

1006
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 6: it's like bad unfortunately, like the like the first time

1007
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 6: I had it, I kept having a dream that like

1008
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 6: that my teeth were falling out, yes, right, And so

1009
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 6: I started reading and like one of the things that

1010
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,959
Speaker 6: I read was that it meant somebody was gonna die.

1011
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 6: And so for like three nights I had that dream

1012
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 6: in a row, and all of a sudden, like my

1013
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 6: uncle had been in the hospital, but he was like

1014
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 6: they said he was getting better and that everything was fun.

1015
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 6: So I kept having that dream and I was like

1016
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 6: really scared, and but I was like, no, it was

1017
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 6: just my.

1018
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: Imagination, it's not anything.

1019
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 6: And then the following so I had it for three

1020
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 6: nights and then the following night they called and my

1021
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 6: uncle had taken a turn for the worst and he

1022
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 6: passed away. And so that was like really bad because

1023
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 6: that was like the first like really bad one that

1024
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 6: I had, and so that and then.

1025
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 2: It was crazy because like a couple of.

1026
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 6: Days later, I was standing in the room and I

1027
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 6: felt somebody tap me on his shoulder and I thought

1028
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 6: that it was my husband and I looked and like

1029
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 6: he was nowhere to be found, and so it was

1030
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 6: really weird.

1031
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 2: So that was kind of yeah, it was really weird.

1032
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 6: But I like my uncle is still around us because

1033
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,959
Speaker 6: like my cousin still sees him at at his old

1034
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 6: house because my cousin now has he was given the

1035
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 6: house in in my uncle's will, so he has my

1036
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,479
Speaker 6: uncle's house and so he still sees my uncle like there,

1037
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 6: and like some of my other family members will see him.

1038
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 6: So it's really like he's really connected to us, but

1039
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 6: he lives in Tennessee. So but like when I go there,

1040
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 6: like I feel like he's still there. And then like

1041
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 6: the last bad, really bad one that I had, I

1042
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 6: had a premonition that well, I had a dream that

1043
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 6: this like this demon looking thing came in the room

1044
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 6: and grabbed my my dog which was like my bab.

1045
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 2: Like his name is Barkley, and he was like my

1046
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:14,919
Speaker 2: like he was like my furry son.

1047
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 7: Like I don't have.

1048
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 2: Children, so he was like my child.

1049
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 6: And I had I had a dream that this creature

1050
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 6: came and took Barkley and ran out the window and

1051
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 6: I was screaming at it. And then like a couple

1052
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 6: of weeks later, like Barkley started getting sick and I

1053
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 6: started having like all these crazy, weird dreams and he

1054
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 6: ended up. He ended up, like it was like a

1055
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 6: whole long ordeal, but he ended up passing away. But

1056
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 6: it was crazy because he had had like all these

1057
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 6: weird like like all this weird stuff was going on

1058
00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 6: while he was sick, and.

1059
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 2: So that last night he started like he had a

1060
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 2: brain tumor.

1061
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,479
Speaker 6: So it was kind of like about a month of

1062
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 6: like really like hell like on Earth with us with him.

1063
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 2: And it was horrible. But so he had ended up.

1064
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 6: It was so weird because last night we were like,

1065
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 6: it's so weird, like this whole thing is so weird.

1066
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 6: But we were watching Coco together and I was telling him.

1067
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 2: I was like, well, maybe if.

1068
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 6: You have to go, you go ahead without me, but

1069
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 6: you have to visit because I'll be really sad without you.

1070
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 2: And the next morning he passed away.

1071
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 6: But it's so weird because he still comes to the house,

1072
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 6: like we still see.

1073
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: Him, like physical him.

1074
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, so like I'll see shadows, like I'll see like

1075
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,359
Speaker 6: little shadows on the fun like running down the hall,

1076
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 6: and like my husband has physically seen him a couple

1077
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 6: of times, like he actually physically seen him. It was

1078
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 6: on March fourteenth. It was actually it was actually like

1079
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 6: a couple of weeks ago we saw him because that

1080
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 6: was his birthday. And it was so weird because like

1081
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's just like the energy, like

1082
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 6: we're talking about him all day, and like we were

1083
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 6: talking about him all day and my husband like physically

1084
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 6: saw him when we were when I fell asleep, he

1085
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 6: saw him like standing at the end of my like

1086
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:06,320
Speaker 6: by my feet.

1087
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 2: On the bed. Oh my god.

1088
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:08,479
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1089
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 6: It's crazy like then, like every time that we're thinking

1090
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 6: about him or something's going on, like the lights start

1091
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 6: to go out, like the light bulbs will go out

1092
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 6: in the house.

1093
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 2: Like it's crazy.

1094
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 6: Like it's always like a significant like day like or

1095
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 6: like a significant time.

1096
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: So when it was like my birthday week like.

1097
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 6: We had like six of the lights went out all

1098
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 6: like that whole week and like within like two days,

1099
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 6: and then like it's just really weird, like and then

1100
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 6: when he passed away, Yeah, like when he passed away,

1101
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 6: it got to the point my mom was telling me

1102
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 6: that I needed to call an electrician because like so

1103
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 6: many lights were going out and I was like, no,

1104
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 6: it's Barkley because I kept telling him to give me signs.

1105
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 2: But it was like, yeah, it's really weird.

1106
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 6: But then, like like for six months, I was like

1107
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 6: truly depressed because of these dreams and premonitions, right, so

1108
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 6: I was I went to a therapist, Like it got

1109
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 6: so bad. I went to a therapist and she went

1110
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 6: to her priest to find out why I was having premonitions.

1111
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 6: Like it was like a whole thing, right, And so

1112
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 6: it was so weird. So he ended up like we

1113
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 6: were seeing like we had like it was really weird,

1114
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 6: like the just like we were having like all.

1115
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 2: These dreams and things about him after he passed away.

1116
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 6: And so one night I had a dream that he

1117
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 6: came to me and he told me that he was

1118
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,080
Speaker 6: going to have to go away for a while, and

1119
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 6: he was going to leave he was gonna he was

1120
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 6: gonna be around, but he was going to be gone

1121
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 6: for a while. And in the dream there was a

1122
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 6: bunch of puppies around him. And the next day, Yeah,

1123
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 6: it's so weird. So right before I d say, right

1124
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 6: before he passed away, he had to stay in the

1125
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 6: vet because he was getting treatment, and he scratched his

1126
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 6: nose and at the end of his nose it was

1127
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 6: shaped like the shape of a heart. And when he

1128
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 6: passed away, he had a big like a big sword

1129
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 6: that was shaped like this, like the shape of a heart. Well,

1130
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 6: so I had a dream that he told me he

1131
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 6: had to leave and that there was gonna be some puppy,

1132
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 6: that there were puppies around. So the next day I

1133
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 6: found this puppy online and I was like, well, if

1134
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 6: it's meant to be, when I go to see this puppy,

1135
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 6: I'm gonna have a sign. Rose.

1136
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 2: We walked in the room and.

1137
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 6: There was a picture of a dog, a painting that

1138
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 6: looked just like Barkley on the thing on the wall

1139
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 6: where we were adopting this puppy. The puppy comes out

1140
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 6: to meet us, and she has a birthmark in the

1141
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 6: shape of a heart on her nose and the place.

1142
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 2: Yes, I will send you, I will, I will send

1143
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 2: you pictures.

1144
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: And it's so weird.

1145
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 2: Yes, And the funny thing is Barkley. He was a Chihuaha,

1146
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 2: so he kind of had a little attitude.

1147
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 6: So I called him sickle Pickle all the time, like

1148
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 6: sickle Pickle was his nickname. And the doctor that adopted

1149
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 6: this puppy to us, the bet she has like an

1150
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 6: adoption agency, and she her name was doctor Pickle. Yes,

1151
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,959
Speaker 6: it's so weird, and all this came from this dream

1152
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 6: him right, but yeah, so like all of those things, and.

1153
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:04,959
Speaker 2: Then like we have I don't know how the time

1154
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 2: we have, but like wait.

1155
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:10,919
Speaker 1: How does you're a dog now? Like ever interact with

1156
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: Barkley when he comes back to visit, you know what?

1157
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 6: Sometimes like she will like just like randomly like bark

1158
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 6: at like nothing, especially at night because at night when

1159
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 6: we are in, when we're in, like when we're in

1160
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 6: our bed, like that.

1161
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 2: Seems to be like where we skill him more.

1162
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 6: And actually I talked to a psychic and the psychic

1163
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 6: because like one day I actually saw the sheets move

1164
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 6: like he was underneath the sheets. Oh, like you know

1165
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, Like that type of movement right, and

1166
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 6: it was like, you know, like the height of a chuahua.

1167
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 2: Like it was really weird.

1168
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 6: And I was like, it's still, like it was really

1169
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 6: freaking After that, I burned stage because it just kind

1170
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 6: of scared me.

1171
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 2: That's like that.

1172
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 6: But so I talked to a psychic and the psychic

1173
01:00:56,160 --> 01:01:01,439
Speaker 6: actually told me, like, you him more in the bed,

1174
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 6: like when you're going to sleep, and I was like, yeah,

1175
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 6: we actually kind of do. And so it's funny because Poppy,

1176
01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:10,080
Speaker 6: my dog, now she will like bark and stuff at

1177
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 6: things like in the bed and there's like nothing there,

1178
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 6: and so sometimes I feel like she.

1179
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 2: Does know him or like knows that he's around, you know.

1180
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 2: So it's kind of weird. But he definitely still like

1181
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 2: he listened to his mom. I told him to come.

1182
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 6: Back, and he does.

1183
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 1: This is definitely the first chihuahua ghost we have ever had.

1184
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 2: This show was very very special.

1185
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 9: So wait, okay, let's touch on a couple more that

1186
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 9: you told me there was your husband seeing your dead aunt.

1187
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, so yeah, so my it was this is weird too, well,

1188
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 6: I mean yeah, because so my aunt who is the

1189
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 6: what's the wife of my uncle that I had the

1190
01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 6: premonition about passing away my aunt Francis.

1191
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 2: So we had went to Sedona and we had walked around,

1192
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 2: like you know, all the places that they say are

1193
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 2: spiritual and stuff.

1194
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 6: But I really didn't, like, I didn't really feel weird

1195
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 6: or anything there like some people say they do. And

1196
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 6: so we had walked around and everything, and so that

1197
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:22,400
Speaker 6: night when we went to sleep, my husband got up

1198
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 6: and went to the restroom. Stuff came back, and when

1199
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 6: he came back, he saw my aunt and my mom's

1200
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 6: best friend who was like an aunt to me. They

1201
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 6: didn't know each other in life, but that they were

1202
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 6: both like aunt figures. One was my blood an and

1203
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 6: the other was my friend that was like an aunt.

1204
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 6: And they were standing there like over me, and he

1205
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 6: could only see like part of them, like like their

1206
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 6: head and like torso and they.

1207
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 2: But the weird thing was was that next to my

1208
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 2: aunt was a baby.

1209
01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 6: And it was so weird because like about two months later,

1210
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 6: my cousin, who that aunt that was, that would have

1211
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 6: been his grandmother. He ended up him and his fiance

1212
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 6: we're having.

1213
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: A baby, oh wow.

1214
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,560
Speaker 2: And it was so weird because one of my other

1215
01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 2: cousins too, she which was his sister.

1216
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 6: She had a dream that my aunt had a baby

1217
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:26,520
Speaker 6: with her. But with my husband, it wasn't a dream.

1218
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 6: It was he was awake and he saw them standing there,

1219
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,720
Speaker 6: but they had Yeah.

1220
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 2: She had a baby, and so it was really weird,

1221
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 2: like and there.

1222
01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you get these premonitions, does it make you, like,

1223
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: especially now that you've had so many that have like

1224
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 1: come true, do you how do you feel when you

1225
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: get them? Do you feel like you need to alert

1226
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: the person or like, you know, do you do anything

1227
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: about it?

1228
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, So now like I'm like now I'm a little

1229
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 6: bit more into tune with it.

1230
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 2: But like like for.

1231
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 6: Example, like last but sometimes I can't tell the exact person.

1232
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 2: I just know something bad is coming.

1233
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 6: Like last year, I had like a really bad zoning

1234
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 6: for like days, and like just like if I had

1235
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 6: to describe it.

1236
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 2: Like kind of like dread, just like what is around me?

1237
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 2: Like something is around me.

1238
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 6: I don't know what it is, right, And in that case,

1239
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 6: one of my best friends was very, very sick and

1240
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 6: she had to be hospitalized. She's fine now, thank god,

1241
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 6: but like at the time I didn't know like it

1242
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 6: was her. But yeah, so like sometimes a lot of

1243
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 6: times I'll get them, Like when we're driving somewhere, I'll

1244
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 6: get like a thought, Like when one day we were

1245
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 6: driving and like it was early in the morning and

1246
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 6: we were doing a road trip and it was like

1247
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 6: three in the morning, and something told me like, if

1248
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 6: we get in a wrecout here, nobody's gonna find us

1249
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 6: for a long time.

1250
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 2: Because it was kind of like on the back roads.

1251
01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 2: And I told my husband. I was like, slow down.

1252
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,600
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but just flow down. And so

1253
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:01,959
Speaker 2: he was like, okay, he listens, now, yeah he So.

1254
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 6: He slowed down and we turned a corner and as

1255
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 6: soon as we turned the corner, this huge deer was

1256
01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 6: right in.

1257
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 2: The middle of the road and I was like, oh

1258
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 2: my god. Yeah.

1259
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 6: So now when it's that kind of stuff, especially like that,

1260
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 6: because one time I kept having that feeling and I

1261
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 6: didn't listen and we ended up getting into a rick.

1262
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,720
Speaker 6: So now I'm like, if you have that feel, anybody,

1263
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 6: stay your butt home. Yeah, you know. So now like

1264
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 6: I listen, and it's like if I can tell that

1265
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 6: it's about somebody, like I will tell.

1266
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 2: Them, but I haven't. Like sometimes I think like.

1267
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 6: I have that ability naturally, but I know, like if

1268
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,280
Speaker 6: I tried to do like meditation and stuff like, I

1269
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 6: feel that it would get stronger, but then I'm kind

1270
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 6: of afraid.

1271
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: You know, you're your husband's grandmother came to see you guys.

1272
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so my husband grandmother. We called her Nana, So Nana.

1273
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 6: I actually knew Nana before I knew my husband because

1274
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 6: I worked in a store and she would always come

1275
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,160
Speaker 6: in the store to get craft things and stuff like that.

1276
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 6: She was like a real cute little grandma and so

1277
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 6: I knew her from there, and then I met my

1278
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 6: husband and realized that that was his grandmother.

1279
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 2: I had you for a year, known for her like forever.

1280
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:29,959
Speaker 6: So she ended up passing away, and when she passed away,

1281
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 6: she had like Alzheimer's and she had been very sick.

1282
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 6: So it was so weird because the night she passed away,

1283
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 6: I had a dream that we were in the store

1284
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 6: that I met her like that I worked at and

1285
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,520
Speaker 6: that I was like, well, Nana, you probably don't remember me,

1286
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 6: but I love you, because she didn't remember anybody, and

1287
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 6: she kind of came and kissed my forehead and was like, no,

1288
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 6: I'll always remember you. So that same night, my my

1289
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 6: husband Saul saw her. Actually he's standing over the bed

1290
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 6: like he saw like when he saw my aunt and

1291
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 6: my other my other friend of the family. So he

1292
01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 6: saw her like that again, like that type of vision

1293
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 6: where it was like her like down to like her

1294
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 6: torso area and her face and it was like she

1295
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 6: was coming to tell him by well.

1296
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 2: So it was so weird because she.

1297
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 6: Loved that Pleasures perfume, right that say alter one, so

1298
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 6: like that was like her favorite perfume, and we'd buy

1299
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 6: it for her for Mother's Day and and Christmas and

1300
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,440
Speaker 6: every occasion, like that's all that's what she always wanted.

1301
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 6: So like we would wake up for like a couple

1302
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 6: of days after she died, we would wake up and

1303
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 6: smell that perfume like somebody had just swilled a whole bottle.

1304
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 2: In the in the bedroom. Like it was so weird.

1305
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 6: And we always like when that would happen, we'd be like,

1306
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 6: oh my God, like Nan is here with us right,

1307
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 6: Like it was so strange.

1308
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: Wait, did your husband was he the kind of person

1309
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 1: that had these experiences before he met you? Because it

1310
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: sounds like you said a lot since met you.

1311
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what, like when we first get together

1312
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 6: and I would talk about it and like I first,

1313
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 6: like started telling him about prominitions. I don't I mean

1314
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 6: not any thought that I was like crazy, but I

1315
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 6: think he was kind of like, well, that's weird, you know.

1316
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 6: But then as we've been together, it's almost like I've

1317
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 6: rubbed off on him, and like he gets that side

1318
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 6: because I pray, like I always always pray that I

1319
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 6: don't see things because like it freaks me out enough

1320
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 6: with premonitions and like the feelings and stuff, so I'm

1321
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 6: always like, please.

1322
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: Guy, don't give me the visions.

1323
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 2: Because I will like have a stroke or something like

1324
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 2: I'm terrified.

1325
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 6: So I feel that since we've been together, like he

1326
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:48,439
Speaker 6: kind of gets that side, and like we validated off

1327
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 6: of each other because like when especially like when Barkley died,

1328
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 6: like he I would see like laying on me, and

1329
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 6: like he would feel like he had thought Barkley that night.

1330
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 2: Too, and then he'd be like I felt he was

1331
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 2: here last night.

1332
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 6: I was like, oh my god, so did I, you know,

1333
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 6: and like all these feelings like we comvalidate each other's

1334
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 6: and but I feel that he's gotten it more like

1335
01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 6: he's kind of because we've been together for like twenty

1336
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 6: three years, so I think I've rubbed off. Yeah, so

1337
01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 6: like I'm rubbed off on him.

1338
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:22,720
Speaker 1: Okay, tell me one last story. Yeah, what is the

1339
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: story of the haunted hotel with your family?

1340
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, okay.

1341
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 6: So so we were going to I don't know if

1342
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 6: you've ever been to San Antonio, but it's like.

1343
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 2: Super haunted, right yeah. Okay, so like the Alamo and

1344
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 2: all of that.

1345
01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 6: Right, So there's a lot of hotels in that area

1346
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 6: that are known for that, and people go because they

1347
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,040
Speaker 6: know that it's haunted. Right.

1348
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 2: So I don't like, like I think you've said this

1349
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 2: on the show, like you don't like to sleep where

1350
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 2: you think it's haunted.

1351
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 1: Hell no, I waking me up.

1352
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 6: No, okay, me and you ros were the same because

1353
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:00,080
Speaker 6: I'm like, I want to go during the day. I

1354
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 6: want to look at it, I want to learn about it,

1355
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 6: I want to experience it, and then I want to

1356
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 6: go to my nice little room that's peaceful and nobody's.

1357
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 2: Going to be around me, right exactly.

1358
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1359
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 6: So at this particular time, we went in this hotel

1360
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:16,240
Speaker 6: that we stayed at. We've stayed out like probably five

1361
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 6: times before that we had stayed and never had any

1362
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 6: weird experiences.

1363
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 2: It's nearer the Alamo and near that area, but not.

1364
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 6: As close to some of these other ones that have

1365
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 6: this on it history around them, right, So I'd never

1366
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,520
Speaker 6: heard a story about it, never experienced it.

1367
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 2: So this particular time we.

1368
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 6: Go and when we're walking down, we get our room

1369
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 6: key and we're walking down to our room and come

1370
01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 6: to find out this is in a separate section than

1371
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 6: we had ever stayed before. Normally we stayed in this

1372
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 6: other area. This time the area we were staying in.

1373
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,719
Speaker 6: When we turned and walked the other that way toward

1374
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 6: the new room, I was like, Okay, something's weird here,

1375
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 6: Like you know, like you feel cold all of a sudden,

1376
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 6: and it was like summer in Houston, I mean, toyo whatever,

1377
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 6: So it wasn't It was not cold in there. So

1378
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 6: and then like the hair, you know, like your hair

1379
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,640
Speaker 6: is like, oh my god, what's going on. So we

1380
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 6: go into the room and it just did it still right,

1381
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 6: But I was like, Okay, I'm just imagining things.

1382
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:19,560
Speaker 2: It's fine. So we put our bags down and then we.

1383
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 6: We left to go eat and we come back, and

1384
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 6: when we came back, it still felt like something was

1385
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 6: there and something wasn't right.

1386
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 2: So as every time, like we would come and go

1387
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 2: throughout the day, throughout.

1388
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 6: The afternoon and night, and it just like it felt

1389
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 6: like somebody was watching us in there, Like it felt

1390
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:39,120
Speaker 6: like something was there.

1391
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 2: So that night when we went to.

1392
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 6: Bed, I laid down and like I woke up and

1393
01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 6: it was like around midnight or so. I woke up

1394
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 6: and I was like something like something is there, And

1395
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:54,559
Speaker 6: you know you have that feeling where you're like, I'm

1396
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:56,160
Speaker 6: not gonna look, because if I looked, there's something.

1397
01:11:55,960 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 2: There, right, No, no, no, no, no, I was waiting.

1398
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 6: No, I was awake, and like I grabbed the No,

1399
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 6: I've never had that thing, cud and you scare me.

1400
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 2: When I listened to you, I'm like, I'm not listening

1401
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:09,920
Speaker 2: to me. I know I'm not having no.

1402
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 6: So I was like I reached over and I grabbed

1403
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 6: the blanket and I put it over my head because

1404
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 6: I was like, I'm not looking.

1405
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 2: I'm not looking. Just go to bed, just lay back down.

1406
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:19,839
Speaker 2: It's fine.

1407
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 6: So the next morning I wake up and my mom

1408
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 6: is standing over my like over my face.

1409
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 2: She's like, wake up, I have to tell you something.

1410
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 6: I'm like, I already know what it's about. I've got

1411
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:31,800
Speaker 6: to take a shower. If you tell me, I'm not

1412
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 6: going to go in that bathroom myself, So just wait.

1413
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 6: So I made her wait until.

1414
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 2: I got ready, and I came back out and I

1415
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 2: was like, okay, what happened?

1416
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 6: And so she told me, Like, so there was a

1417
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 6: movie on at that time, so we were kind of

1418
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 6: able to piece together who woke up first based.

1419
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 2: On a movie.

1420
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 6: So because the TV was on or whatever, So I

1421
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 6: woke up first, and I thought like something was there.

1422
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 2: So then my mom woke up.

1423
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:01,400
Speaker 6: And she woke up and she felt like something was

1424
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:05,800
Speaker 6: hitting the end of the bed, like ramming into the bed,

1425
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 6: and like it was like the bed was like the

1426
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:10,679
Speaker 6: only wall that the beds were on.

1427
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 2: Oh, because me and.

1428
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,759
Speaker 8: My mom and dad and my husband were all sharing

1429
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,559
Speaker 8: a room, so we were all sharing the room and

1430
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 8: so there were two double beds and the headboards of

1431
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 8: the bed were the only thing touching the walls, right,

1432
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 8: So like it couldn't have been like a water false

1433
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 8: or you know, like a water pipe or something, because

1434
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 8: the wall wasn't touching that side of the bed.

1435
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,280
Speaker 6: So something was ramming into the bed. So she wakes

1436
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,920
Speaker 6: up and she feels like something is like over her,

1437
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 6: like just like coming at her. So she gets she's

1438
01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 6: trying to remember because like because of as you can tell,

1439
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 6: we've had experiences. So we always travel like with the Bible,

1440
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 6: Like we always have a Bible with us everywhere we go.

1441
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 6: So which and I'm not like a very I'm not

1442
01:13:52,280 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 6: like a religious person, but I consider myself like spiritual.

1443
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 2: More than like religious or whatever.

1444
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 6: So always always her Bible. So she was she wanted

1445
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 6: to get her Bible out, but it was at the

1446
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 6: end of the bed. It was like over towards the

1447
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 6: foot of the bed, like on the wall, and she

1448
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 6: couldn't like across like the hallway from where this thing was,

1449
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:13,800
Speaker 6: so she would have to pass this thing and go

1450
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 6: across the hall to get to her suitcase. Oh so

1451
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 6: she was like no, yeah, so she remembered, you know

1452
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 6: how they put like the bibles in some of the

1453
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 6: nightstands at the hotels or whatever. So she opened the

1454
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 6: drawer and there was a Bible in there. So my grandma,

1455
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 6: like when my mom was growing up her this is

1456
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 6: like a long story, but her father, my mom's father,

1457
01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 6: had committed suicide in their house and my grandfather's so

1458
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 6: when my mom was like twelve, so they would always

1459
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 6: see things in the house. So some of the some

1460
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:49,799
Speaker 6: of the church people in town had told my grandma

1461
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 6: like certain verses to read to like get rid of

1462
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,120
Speaker 6: like spirits and things like that, and it's like some

1463
01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 6: things and psalms. So my mom started reading it, and

1464
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 6: as she was reading it, this thing was still like

1465
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 6: someone like it was coming after her. But she kept

1466
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 6: going and going, and it finally like started to get

1467
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 6: less and less, and so she just kept reading it

1468
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,680
Speaker 6: until it went away. And it was weird because you

1469
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:16,080
Speaker 6: know how you hear like people say like if if

1470
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,719
Speaker 6: the spirit's like coming after you, like the people around

1471
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 6: won't wake.

1472
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:20,680
Speaker 2: Up, you know what I mean.

1473
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, So, like she was trying to like get my

1474
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 6: dad to wake him up because he was right there

1475
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,959
Speaker 6: and he would not wake up. And he's a light sleeper,

1476
01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 6: so it was really weird because my dad will wake

1477
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 6: up with any little noise. But so so anyway, so

1478
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 6: she ended up like it went away and she was

1479
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 6: able to sleep. So a little while after that, my

1480
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 6: husband woke up. So my husband woke up and he

1481
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 6: heard like it sounded like something like papers wrestling like

1482
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 6: at the door, and.

1483
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 2: He was like, what is that? But It was like like.

1484
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 6: Around three in the morning when he woke up and

1485
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 6: he was like, what is that. So he kept hearing

1486
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 6: it and it sounded like somebody like coming at the door.

1487
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 6: But so at first he thought it was like, you know,

1488
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 6: like some of the hotels would put like your your

1489
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 6: your receipt or your your reservation or your information underneath

1490
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 6: the door.

1491
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 2: They slided under the door, but with your bill or whatever.

1492
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 6: But it wasn't like it was way early for that.

1493
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 6: So he goes over to the door and he looks

1494
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 6: and there's nothing there. So he opens up the door

1495
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,280
Speaker 6: and he's hearing something at the door. He opens the

1496
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 6: door and there's nothing there, Like the whole hall is clear.

1497
01:16:29,040 --> 01:16:32,599
Speaker 6: So yeah, it was really weird. So that morning we

1498
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 6: called well like after we checked out, because we didn't

1499
01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 6: want to ask them in person because we didn't want

1500
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 6: to look really weird. So as soon as we checked out,

1501
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:46,639
Speaker 6: we called back and my mom talked to the front

1502
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,799
Speaker 6: desk and she was like, ma'am, I was just wondering

1503
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 6: if you guys have had ever had any paranormal activity

1504
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 6: reported in your hotel.

1505
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,799
Speaker 2: And the lady says, why, certainly, ma'am. All the time

1506
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 2: actually I know right.

1507
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 6: She's like, we have a procedure where if you call

1508
01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 6: and complain about if anybody complains about ghosts, we go

1509
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:12,639
Speaker 6: and we sprinkle holy water and we we put oil

1510
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,680
Speaker 6: and we burned some candles in there, and she was like,

1511
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 6: you know which room are you in, and.

1512
01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 2: We'll go take care of it. And I was like, Okay,

1513
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 2: if you have a ghost procedure like that needs to.

1514
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:29,679
Speaker 6: Be on the front page of your website exactly like.

1515
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 2: We take we allow dogs. And by the way, we

1516
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 2: have a procedure.

1517
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 1: Your dad just slept right through it like a baby.

1518
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 1: Everyone else only one yes.

1519
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:45,400
Speaker 6: But you know the crazy thing, I mean, all of

1520
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:47,880
Speaker 6: it's crazy. But the weird thing is I wrote about it.

1521
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 6: I had written about it online because I had a

1522
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:53,599
Speaker 6: blog that I was writing, and I've had like three

1523
01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 6: other people reach out to me and tell me they

1524
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:01,080
Speaker 6: had like similar versions of that story in the same

1525
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 6: section of that hotel. Weird It's called La Mansion del Rio.

1526
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 2: And the weird thing is, Okay, when we stayed there,

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Speaker 2: it was like this has been years back. When we

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Speaker 2: were there, it was actually like a boutique hotel that

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Speaker 2: was like privately owned or whatever. Well then the Omni

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Speaker 2: bought it, so when we stayed there, they were very

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Speaker 2: like upfront like, oh yeah, we have this, this is

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Speaker 2: the thing, we have it. Oh yeah.

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Speaker 6: And then but now the people that have taught that

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Speaker 6: have written to me, they've actually reached out to me

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Speaker 6: because ever since for some reason, since Omni bought it,

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Speaker 6: like they're like, oh no, there's nothing we don't know

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Speaker 6: about that. But it's crazy because the people that have

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Speaker 6: reached out to me actually reached out to me because

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Speaker 6: they felt like they were going crazy and.

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Speaker 2: They started searching the internet.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and when they started searching, they found me because

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Speaker 6: I had written about it, and so I was like, oh, no,

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Speaker 6: you're not crazy.

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Speaker 2: They're just not telling you the truth right now. Right,

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Speaker 2: it's really weird. I know.

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Speaker 6: There's a ghost in my house.

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Speaker 1: All right. Well, special thank you to Tyler, Tyler, Elise

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Speaker 1: and Heather for sharing those stories today. I love it.

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Speaker 1: And if you would like to be on a Listener episode,

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Speaker 1: send me an email ghosted by Roz at gmail dot

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01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 1: com and just write listener episode in the subject line

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01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 1: and maybe we can get you in the next one. Guys,

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01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening to the show. You

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01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 1: can find me on venmo at Queen Roz I'm on

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01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 1: Cameo Roz dress Fales Instagram, Roz dress Flues. Join the

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Speaker 1: Facebook group Ghosted by Roz dress Fales. If you have

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01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 1: a ghost story, you can leave it there, or you

1558
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 1: can leave it in a five star review on Apple

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01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 1: Podcast or just give us five stars. It helps out

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01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 1: the show, you know what. Also tell your friends about

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01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 1: the show. I know the people are looking for things

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01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 1: to get their minds off of what's going on in

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01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 1: the world, and it's nice to to kind of think

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Speaker 1: about something else, like ghosts. You know what. Next week,

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Speaker 1: I've got a really fun episode with another celebrity friend.

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Speaker 1: I've got Busy Phillips joining me, so you know that's

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Speaker 1: going to be a good time. I can't wait to

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Speaker 1: talk to you then, so have a great week. I

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Speaker 1: love you all, both living and dead. But if I

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Speaker 1: didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.

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Speaker 6: Came Back

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Speaker 1: Star a podcast network