1 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: My daddy was in the Navy. I know two things 2 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: about his service. One, he swam in the ocean on 3 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: Christmas Day. He used to love telling us five girls 4 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: about that, because it was never warm enough anywhere we 5 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: ever were to swim on Christmas Day. So he loved 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: that that he was in Hawaii and swam on Christmas Day. 7 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: Number two, when he went ashore once and it was 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: time for him to get his tattoo with all of 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: his buddies, he said that he chose this little bitty 10 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: rooster on the inside of his calf, so that if 11 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: he was looking at you straight or you were behind him, 12 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: you couldn't see it. But he chose it because it 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: was the smallest sample the guy had on the wall. 14 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: That was it. That's what I know. I know he's 15 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: there during the Cold War, but I don't know anything 16 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: else about his service. Y'all have watched the TV show, 17 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: you know, those crisp white uniforms, The Bravery. I'm talking 18 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: about the Naval Criminal Investigative Service ncis HONEY, the federal 19 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: law enforcement agency that is responsible for the investigating of felonies, 20 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: preventing terrorism, and protecting the secrets of the Navy and 21 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: the Marine Corps. NCIS operate y'all in one hundred and 22 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: ninety one locations in more than forty one countries. We 23 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: got the real deal tonight. Joseph Twilley is a highly 24 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 1: respected veteran in law enforcement. He currently serves as the 25 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: Deputy Assistant Director to NCIS at Quadico. He leads the 26 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: Recruitment and Retention Division now. He started his career in 27 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: criminal justice as a police officer on Maryland's Eastern Shore 28 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: that was like in two thousand and five. Over the 29 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: last nineteen years, mister Twilly has held critical leadership positions, 30 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: including Supervisory Special Agent of counter Intelligence and Criminal Investigations 31 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: at Camp Lea June and Cherrypoint, both in North Carolina. 32 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: He also served as the Assistant Special Agent in Charge 33 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: of counter Intelligence and Criminal Investigations at the Northwest Field 34 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: Office in Bangor, Washington. He filled essential positions as Acting 35 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: Special Agent in Charge of the Northwest Field Office and 36 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: Division Chief of Policy and Recruitment for NCIS. As the 37 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: Deputy Assistant Director of Recruitment, he identifies and enlists the 38 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: next generation of these top tier special agents. He carries 39 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: out the agency's vital mission of protecting those that protect us. 40 00:02:56,080 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: Mister Twilly's a graduate of Eastern Shore Criminal Justice Academy 41 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: in Maryland and has completed advance training at the Federal 42 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: Law Enforcement Training Center and the Joint Counterintelligence Training Academy, 43 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: and has specialized courses that he has completed in crime 44 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: see investigation, interviewing, interrogation, and source operations. Throughout his NCIS career, 45 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: he has conducted critical counterintelligence and criminal investigations within the 46 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: United States and internationally. Since taking the helm of the 47 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: Recruitment Division, mister Twilley has been instrumental in evaluating over 48 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: three thousand applicants and selecting the most promising individuals to 49 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: join the NCIS mission. Joe Twilley, it is an honor 50 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: for me to welcome you to Zone seven show. 51 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 2: It's an honor for myself to be here as well, 52 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: and I appreciate this opportunity to talk about my agency, 53 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: my career, and my profession and recruiting for the next 54 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: generation of special agents with NCIS. 55 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: Walk me through a typical day for you. 56 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's changed a lot as you grow 57 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: within an organization, So my path has been quite fascinating 58 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: and winding. I have had the privilege of gaining exposure 59 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 2: to many interesting places and responsibilities over the year. It 60 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: started out in Protecting River Maryland, where I was the 61 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: Research Development and Acquisition or Research Techno protection agent and 62 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 2: we were safeguard. I was safeguarding the critical assets alongside 63 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 2: dedicated Navy personnel. So what you do there is you're 64 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 2: protecting critical information for the Navy because that's the research 65 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 2: and development location for the Department of the Navy. So 66 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 2: I always tell people it's not really what's on the 67 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: outside of accounts, it's what's on the end side, So 68 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: protecting those valuable systems within the Department of the Navy. 69 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 2: So from there I left and went to exotic locations 70 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 2: such as WAM in Dubai, and which gave me a 71 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 2: kind of invaluable global perspective. 72 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: Now where did you grow up. 73 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: I grew up on the eastern shore of Maryland, Cambridge, Maryland. 74 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So when you land in places like Dubai, are 75 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: you prepared culturally for what you're going to encounter? I mean, 76 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: do they get you ready to know once you hit 77 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: the ground what to expect? 78 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 2: They do? So I actually went to a course that 79 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 2: taught the different aspects of that community, and to help 80 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 2: me better understand the diversity within that community so I 81 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 2: could be successful. It was definitely a far cry from Cambridge, Maryland, 82 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 2: from a guy who thought a big trip was going 83 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 2: over the Bay Bridge there on the eastern shore to 84 00:05:58,560 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: the western shore. 85 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: I tell people about my job being a crime scene investigator. 86 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: One thing I love about it is it's never the same. 87 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: There's going to be something different every day your schedule, 88 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: in your workload on a daily basis. Are there surprises 89 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: for you still? Or you pretty much regimented you know 90 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: what's going to happen. 91 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 2: Obviously, I will tell you my first fifteen years with 92 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 2: the agency, they were not regimented at all. The days 93 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: they were not boring, and I could be working a 94 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: crime scene, I could be working a counter intelligence investigation. 95 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 2: I could be working a sexual assault or a death case, 96 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 2: and that all could have been done that week. So 97 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: we work a variety of different crimes. Now, I will 98 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 2: tell you now that I'm the dad for recruitment and 99 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: retention of the organization. Still surprises me how many people 100 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: apply to the organization. Our last two applicant processes went 101 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: from thirteen hundred when I first started to sixteen hundred 102 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: applicants within a five days within a five day period, 103 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 2: which is amazing. We've grown our internship program over one 104 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: hundred percent and it's a paid internship program. So there 105 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: is a variety in my day even as the deputy 106 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: assistant director for recruitment. 107 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: And that tells you what your agency looks like to 108 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: the outside of civilian world. If that many people now 109 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: won't end and you're seeing this growth, and again, a 110 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: paid internship in college, you don't see that. On top 111 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: of you are looking for the best of the best. 112 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: We are and we're getting that. It is very competitive 113 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: to come within our organization. We hire for about six 114 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 2: classes a year and in those classes, we have about 115 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: twenty four individuals for each class. 116 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: What kind of skills are y'all looking for? What is 117 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: going to make a successful agent for y'all? 118 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 2: Well, the good thing about us is we're not cookie cutter. 119 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: That we bring diversity to our workforce. We have folks 120 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: that have a cyber background, we have folks that have 121 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: the criminal justice broke background, and we have folks that 122 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: are nurses and social workers. They all have a commonality 123 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: and that's they want to serve that servant leadership mindset 124 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: is so important within our organization. It really does not 125 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 2: matter what your background is. 126 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: To me, diversity is key to solving crime. You can't 127 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: have you know, nine or ten people in the same 128 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: room with the same idea and the same thought process. 129 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: You've got to have other people bring in new ideas 130 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: and new ways to get to where y'all want to go. 131 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: I think that is brilliant on y'all's part. 132 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and that's where we're unique to compare to some 133 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: other federal organizations. We will take you fresh out of college. 134 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: How did you know this was the right career path 135 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: for you? So you're a police officer in Maryland, You're 136 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: doing the thing, you're loving it, and now you want 137 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: to go to the next level. When did you make 138 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: that decision? How did you make that decision that NCI 139 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: asked was for you? 140 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 2: I looked at several federal agencies and I said, what 141 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: do I really like to do? And it was investigations. 142 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: I was a detective in Maryland in Cambridge, Maryland before 143 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: I left, and I said, I still want to work 144 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: major crimes, major felony crimes, but I want to do 145 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 2: that on a national, federal and a worldwide level. So 146 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 2: I applied within CIS. I did apply to other organizations. 147 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 2: One organization that I applied to said hey, you're going 148 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 2: to be gone one to eighty out of three hundred 149 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 2: and sixty five days, and I was newly married. I 150 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: didn't think that would be a good idea. So n 151 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: CIS the culture and the climate in CIS is what 152 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: drove me to n CIS. 153 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: Now. Jackal Island, Georgia is one of my favorite places 154 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: on Earth. And you got to spend some time at 155 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: the training center in Brunswick at FLEXI tell us about 156 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: that experience for you. 157 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: Well, the first thing that you do going down to Georgia, 158 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: going into that area is you will actually smell this 159 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: area and. 160 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: Hey, a lying y'all. 161 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 2: You know, and it's a paper mill. So I just 162 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: was at the recent graduation and I asked them, I said, 163 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: do you know what that smell is? And they said, well, 164 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: that's a paper mill and I said, no, sir, it's not. 165 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 2: It is the smell of success. These folks have made it. 166 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: And going down to Fletzi and starting your class, you're 167 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,359 Speaker 2: in a situation is the that is the great equalizer 168 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: of our organization. All you're bringing to it is potential 169 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 2: At that point, That's what I loved about n CIS 170 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 2: or Fletsy at n CIS. 171 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: What a great way to put that. You know, of 172 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: all of your responsibilities as an NCIS agent, what's the 173 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: most rewarding for you day to day or in your career. 174 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 2: Look, I've had so many rewarding experiences with the agency 175 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 2: and it's really hard to define one time within the 176 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 2: organization that stands out. You know, this organization has done 177 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 2: so much for me. I mean in Guam, I got 178 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 2: the most expensive souvenir in Guam and that's called my Son. 179 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 2: So we adopted in the Marshall Islands and I would 180 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 2: not have my family if it wasn't for this organization. 181 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: That might be the greatest answer I've ever heard when 182 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: I've asked any body in law enforcement, They're greatest reward. 183 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: You know, it truly is. And then now that I'm 184 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 2: in this position as a Deputy Assistant Director for Recruitment, 185 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 2: the title doesn't mean anything to me. It's really about 186 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: my legacy. At this point, I'm building out the next 187 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 2: twenty years of this organization, one that I love, one 188 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 2: that I think gave me purpose and pride. 189 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 1: You got any one case that stands out, something that 190 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: you know you helped solve. 191 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: I would say one of more memorable case involved investigating 192 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 2: in a sailor's tragic overdose and I was the assistant 193 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 2: special Agent in charge and he odd on a carrier 194 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 2: and Jill, that's a big deal because obviously we have 195 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: a death of a sailor, but we don't know if 196 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 2: we have other fentanyl, potential fentanyl on that ship with 197 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 2: a sailor using it as well. So that team that 198 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:09,599 Speaker 2: I led that day worked this investigation. They identified the 199 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: drugs source proactively, they interrogated that cell phone, gained a source, 200 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: and we worked diligently to find who the dealer was. 201 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 2: And he was a civilian dealer, and we conducted search 202 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 2: warrants and we seized the dad lead drug as well 203 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: as money and firearms. And that arrest probably saved a 204 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: lot of lives because there was many This gentleman had 205 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 2: a lot of drugs, a lot of fentanyl, and his residence. 206 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: So we didn't just protect the Department of Navy and 207 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 2: our resources, we protected the civilians in our community. 208 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 1: What a dangerous situation when you think of a naval 209 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: ship which is enclosed. I mean just think of it 210 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: as a ten can and you've got fentanyl on board 211 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: that could have been a catastrophe. You've got ventanyl that 212 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: can fit on the head of a dime that can 213 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: wipe out eight people. So I can't imagine a large 214 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: amount on a naval shift. That was incredible work. 215 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: Again, these folks are dedicated to the mission, and you know, 216 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 2: I would put our agents up against any because these 217 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: folks care, they want to they want to do God's 218 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 2: work within our organization. 219 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: You know, y'all, We've got the recruiting man here and 220 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to ask him if anybody is interested, Joe, 221 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: if you can just give him a tip, just an 222 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: insider tip on what you're looking for as a recruiter, 223 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: and maybe one tip about the training process. 224 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, not a problem. I will tell you. The first 225 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: thing you do is your success is going to be 226 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 2: the excuse. So you need to go ahead and apply 227 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 2: and work hard with your background, whether it's an education, 228 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: looking to enhance your education through digital literacy or other courses, 229 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 2: and be as competitive as you can possibly be. That 230 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: means having a GPA over three to zero. That means 231 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 2: looking at opportunities such as internships other careers that might 232 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: assist you in your overall goal. If you do that, 233 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: you have a excellent shot of being an NCIS agent. 234 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: The downfall is the excuse, and I agree with you. 235 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: If you don't have the GPA, then go get some 236 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: experience that's going to help them make yourself somebody they 237 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: want to look for. 238 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Cheryl, we won't talk about my GPA. 239 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: Honey, I would shut this whole system down if we 240 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: had to go talk about mine. I had a lot 241 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: of fun in college, but in class and where it 242 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: was happening, I'll tell you. But again, you can overcome that. 243 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: You can go and get specialized training, you can go 244 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: and get some experience and then come back and say, yeah, 245 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: at seventeen eighteen nineteen, I wasn't focused, I wasn't ready, 246 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: but I am now. And you know to me that 247 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: speaks volumes too. So again, if you don't have the GPA, 248 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: don't give up. The man just told you your downfall 249 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: is going to be your excuse, So don't say, well 250 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: I don't have the GPA, that's it, and go on. No, 251 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: make yourself the person they need. 252 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: Absolutely, and look what you bring to the table. And 253 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: once you get there because I told you it was 254 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: a great equalizer at Fletsy. Is the attitude and effort 255 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 2: you're bringing potential, and our organization trains to retain, trains 256 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: for you to succeed, and really trains for you to lead. 257 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: That's what we do down in Fletsy. 258 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: Is there anything you wish you had known ahead of 259 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: time before you started on this career path. 260 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: In the sense I had looked at what would make 261 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: me competitive and I realized rather quickly my GPA wasn't there, 262 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 2: and that I needed the experience. And I won't take 263 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,719 Speaker 2: away anything from the experience I experiences I had as 264 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: a local law enforcement officer. There's men and women in Cambridge, 265 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: Maryland and Salisbury, Maryland who I worked with, some of 266 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: the hardest and smartest folks I've workers I've ever met 267 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 2: and worked with, but dedicated, and that dedication just rings 268 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 2: true through the profession of law enforcement. So that was 269 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 2: my journey, and my journey was to just make myself 270 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 2: a lot more competitive in order for me to get 271 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 2: my dream job, and that dream job was to be 272 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: a federal agent with n CIS. 273 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 1: And now I want to talk about one of the 274 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: most important things to me in my career, and Joe, 275 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure it is for you too. Talk a little 276 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: bit about the culture there. You've already mentioned the culture, 277 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: but talk more specifically about it and specifically the camaraderie 278 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: in this field. 279 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 2: The culture and climate is something that we look at 280 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 2: in every organization, and if you don't have that culture 281 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 2: that you want to be a part of, then you're 282 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 2: going to look for another organization. And I tell folks 283 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: that said, you know, people leave agencies for three reasons. 284 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: One is bad bosses and whether this organization, I'm never 285 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 2: going to tell you it can't lie to you. You 286 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 2: might run into a bad boss. But the good thing 287 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,959 Speaker 2: about our organization is we're very mobile. It's in our DNA, 288 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 2: So either the boss leaves or you can leave. The 289 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 2: second thing I will tell you is opportunities. People leave 290 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 2: because of opportunities, and I'm going to tell you right 291 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: now in CIS as a of opportunities. Whether you want 292 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: to work cyber, whether you want to work fraud, counterintelligence, 293 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: or be a polygrapher, there's tons of opportunities. And lastly, 294 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: people leave because of purpose, and our organization has a 295 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: lot of purpose. We protect the best dagon Navy in 296 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 2: the world. That is our purpose to protect our people, 297 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,959 Speaker 2: protect the protectors. And I tell you that climate and 298 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 2: that culture is no better than this organization I'm working 299 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: with right now. 300 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: So when you're talking about protecting the Navy and the Marines, 301 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: it's a pretty big job. 302 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 2: Jo, it is, and we have over twelve hundred agents 303 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: doing that. Now, everybody thinks we're a lot bigger, We're not, y'all. 304 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: No matter what question I've thrown at him, you hear 305 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: how even he is, how calm he is. That's what 306 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,719 Speaker 1: you want. That's the main You won't in charge, not 307 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: so that's going to be real dramatic or real freaked 308 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: out about something, or even too excited. You want that 309 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: even keel. So I'm digging the way you're talking because 310 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,719 Speaker 1: I just see you almost mission ready, Like give it 311 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: to me. I'm good. Whether it's an investigation, keeping these 312 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: secrets or going in there and protecting the protectors. Do 313 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: you work on the cold cases that come through? 314 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: So we have a cold case group and it's out 315 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 2: of our headquarters office in Quanako, Virgina, and they do 316 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,440 Speaker 2: work cold cases. We have several cold cases that we 317 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: investigate and recently, we've had some success stories as well. 318 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,959 Speaker 1: Now, Joe, I've heard about a float program. Would you 319 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: please tell everybody what that is? Because I want this 320 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: job bad. 321 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. So if you want to be a chief of police, 322 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: then you need to sign up and do the special 323 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 2: Agent and float program with our organization. It's a highly 324 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 2: sold after program. You end up being the chief of 325 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: police if you will on an aircraft carrier or a 326 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 2: big deck amphibious assault vessel and you ride out and 327 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 2: you're in locations with that carrier group. So right now, 328 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,400 Speaker 2: if we're in the golf from which we are, that's 329 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 2: where our agent is. If that carrier group is going 330 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: to go into port, that's where the agent is. If 331 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 2: one of our sailors or a marine folks get injured 332 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 2: or hurt, that carrier agent's responsible for it. They're responsible 333 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:48,919 Speaker 2: for all criminal investigations, all counter intelligence investigations on that ship. 334 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 2: They're the ones who look for additional resources or call 335 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: for additional resources when needed. So in essence, you are 336 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 2: the sheriff, You're the Texas ranger on. 337 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: That That sounds like the most incredible opportunity to serve 338 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: in law enforcement that I've ever heard. I didn't even 339 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: know that was a thing until recently because of you. 340 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 2: It is highly sought after and a lot of folks 341 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 2: that have done it talk about how rewarding it was 342 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 2: and how they have now got a better understanding of 343 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 2: the Department of the Navy and what they do and 344 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 2: their strategic plans and outlooks. It is a critical and 345 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 2: vital role that we serve within our organization. 346 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: And you know, you've talked about protecting the sailors and 347 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: the Marines, but you also protect their families. 348 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:46,479 Speaker 2: That's correct. I mean, especially in an overseas environment. We 349 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: might be the only federal agency in that overseas environment. 350 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 2: So everybody talks about overseas law enforcement, Well, FBI has 351 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: what they call yats, and it's a very small footprint 352 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: within the FBI. You only have one or two in 353 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: a consulate or embassy, but we're there in a lot 354 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 2: of places other law enforcement's not. 355 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: And you're there in a role that law enforcement normally 356 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: is not because you don't have one single mission. You 357 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,719 Speaker 1: will have a multi tiered mission at all times. So 358 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: it's not just terrorism and protecting secrets and protecting the protectors, 359 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: but now you also have their families. So in that scope, 360 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: if you're the one that's on board the ship, you're 361 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: the chief of police, are you also doing crime prevention 362 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: like given information and education before they go ashore to 363 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: make sure they know where they're stepping into. 364 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 2: Absolutely. So, in every location that we enter into, there's 365 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 2: a threat assessment on that location. So we're providing the 366 00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: best practices. We're providing them the security outlook and preparation 367 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 2: that they need to be safe. We're paving the way 368 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 2: for any interaction that we're going to have with law 369 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 2: enforcement or potentially have with law enforcement. We're talking to 370 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 2: hotels that our sailors might be staying at. We're talking 371 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 2: again with ourly you know, we're conducting liaison, if you will, 372 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 2: with all different folks from that particular area. We have 373 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 2: to be practitioners in our soft skills. 374 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: How many folks are owned an aircraft carrier? 375 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: It all depends, but I will say it's a small city. 376 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: It's a small city. So you have a small city 377 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: of majority of young people eighteen to twenty five, let's say. 378 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: And in my head, when my son went off to 379 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: an SEC school and joined the fraternity and was going 380 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: to live in the fraternity house, I'm like, what can 381 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: go wrong? You know, a house full of young men 382 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty two with no parents. That sounds like 383 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: a fabulous recipe for a great time in his life. 384 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: But now you're telling me you have a whole city 385 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 1: of those same young men and women that are going 386 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: to dock in a foreign country they have never been to, 387 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: and you are there to protect them too. That is 388 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: a job that I have not thought about. I thought 389 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: about y'all protecting our country. I thought about you protecting 390 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: our you know, servicemen and women if they're accused of 391 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: a crime, or arresting them if they're involved in a crime. 392 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,239 Speaker 1: But I haven't thought about them going ashore to have 393 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: a good time and have to give them information quickly 394 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: to say this is the country you're now in. Be 395 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: aware of these twenty five things. Joe my gosh. 396 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's again. It's you know, understanding that culture is 397 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 2: truly important. Fortunately, we have a very professional navy. Not 398 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 2: saying that some folks don't get in trouble, because they do, 399 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 2: and they we wouldn't be here they didn't, But largely 400 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 2: we have a very professional navy and our folks act accordingly. 401 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 2: For us. It is. We're a jack of all trade 402 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: in news positions. So we are paving the way to 403 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: make sure that they actually have a R and R 404 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 2: that is uneventful. And if for some reason they get 405 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: in trouble, sometimes we can't arrest our way out of trouble. 406 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 2: We have to talk through the problem and get them 407 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: out of that situation. 408 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to say that to my son from 409 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: now on, I want you to have an R and 410 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: R that is uneventful. 411 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 2: That's so. 412 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: Here's another thing that it was so unusual for me 413 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: when I first saw your table because I'm like in 414 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: CIS and like, from a distance, my daughter was like, 415 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: is that the show? And I was like, it can't be. 416 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,439 Speaker 1: And then as we got closer, of course it was 417 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 1: the real n CIS and Joe. The way you spoke 418 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: to us, and the way you talked to Caroline specifically 419 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: because she's in school right now for criminal justice and 420 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: you professionally yet just person to person with such confidence 421 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: and such ease, was telling her about the different careers 422 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: and things like that, and you asked her what she 423 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: was interested in, and you know, her natural gifts and 424 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: how they could be applied to you know, help keep 425 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,719 Speaker 1: us safe worldwide. It was an unbelievable thing to watch, 426 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: And as a parent, if you had asked me when 427 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: they were ten or eleven and twelve, I'd be like, no, 428 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: I don't want them end the service is dangerous. Talking 429 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: with you that day, I encouraged her to get recruited 430 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 1: because I just felt like this was such a honorable 431 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: and distinguished group. But you also made it seem like 432 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: y'all were such a team. She was going to be 433 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: safe as she could possibly be doing any type of 434 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: work in law enforcement. So I thought crime Con is 435 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: such a brilliant place for y'all to be because there's 436 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: so many true crime fans that maybe have not found 437 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 1: their way yet, tons of criminal justice students, tons of 438 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: professionals that might be looking to make a change. I 439 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: thought it was just genius that y'all were there. 440 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 2: Well, thank you for that. You know the podcast that 441 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 2: I listened to they talk about crime Con, and I said, man, 442 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 2: what a great place to go and recruit folks that 443 00:28:54,680 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 2: actually care that listen to true crime. Maybe just maybe 444 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: I can get them off their couches if that's what 445 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: they are doing, and or steal some nurses. Because I 446 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 2: met some of those when I was there, or social 447 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 2: workers and get them to be an n CIS agent 448 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 2: our work with n CIS and support our war fighter 449 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: because we have other obviously other jobs which besides being 450 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 2: a special agent. So I thought that was you know, 451 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: I thought that would be a great place to look 452 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: for potential talent, and it did not fail me being there, 453 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: I obviously met you and so many other people, and 454 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 2: we've we've really had an uptick in applications because of 455 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: that event. And from what I hear, we were the 456 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 2: first federal law enforcement agency to go to that event. 457 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: First one, absolutely yep, because again I think somebody had 458 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: to look at it like you did, put to an 459 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: four together, because that's what was not happening, even from 460 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: the side of crime con I don't know that they 461 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: ever thought this is going to be a recruiting event 462 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: for law enforcement. But it's right there. It's almost so 463 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: obvious you miss it. But like I said, when we 464 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: were there, when Caroline and I walked away from the table, 465 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: the two of you represented so well, and again as 466 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: an American citizen, you walk away just full of pride 467 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: because again, the TV show is great and I am 468 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: all for TV highlighting anything the FBI in cis CSI. 469 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: I'm all for it because that's where young people first 470 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: get excited about doing our job. So I have people 471 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: come up to me all the time and say, man, 472 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: I was watching this show and the crime zine investigator 473 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: had a Porsche and then she worked with all these 474 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: really sexy detectives and then they solved everything in site. 475 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: Is it really like that? And I'm like, yes, honey, 476 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: it's exactly like that, you know, because because if you 477 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: can be excited, stay excited, you'll figure out later. You 478 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: don't get a Porsie baby, but some of the other 479 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: stuff is true. You get to work with phenomenal people 480 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: and you will solve some major things that you will 481 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: be so excited to tell your grandchildren one day. And 482 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: you have pride in what you do and Joe that 483 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: comes through you when you talk to you for thirty seconds. 484 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 2: Look, I want to generate excitement, but it's my excitement. 485 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 2: And my approach to recruitment is easy because I like 486 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: what I do. I love my organization. If you didn't 487 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 2: like what you do, it would be work. I don't 488 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 2: go to work, and we change my approach to my 489 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 2: career path being a detective and local law enforcement gave 490 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 2: me a lot of background knowledge and understanding of the law. 491 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: It gave me experiences that made me a better federal investigator, 492 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 2: federal law enforcement officer, you know. And I'll say that 493 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 2: n CIS is much like that local law enforcement. The 494 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 2: culture here genuinely cares for personal for all personnel. It 495 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 2: grows families, and it fosters lifelong memories. And you know, 496 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 2: I will tell you my closest friends are fellow agents 497 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: within this organization. You know. And I'll tell you I'll 498 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 2: miss the mission and excitement upon my retirement in the next 499 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 2: couple of years. But it's really it's the uh, it's 500 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 2: the outstanding people I work with. We all talk about 501 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: you might we won't miss the circus, but we'll miss 502 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 2: the clowns. I'll miss the I'll miss the clowns. 503 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: I'm going to end Zone seven the way that I 504 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: always do with a quote. No other agency has so 505 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: broad and important and mandate. I look forward to be 506 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: in your colleague and to the collective mission of protecting 507 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: our way of life. God bless you, and God bless 508 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: the United States of America. Sean Coffee Department of the 509 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: Navy's chief legal officer and head of the Office of 510 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: the General Council. I'm Cheryl McCollum and this is z 511 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: Own seven.