1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: All right, welcome in all you traders and faithfuls too, 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: by order of the faithful. So I'm wells Adams that 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: I'm alongside. 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 2: And Dolores Cotana. 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: We are finally at the end of this season. It's 6 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 1: getting really really juiced. Good season is like looking back, 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, God, no wonder the show did what it did, 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: because every episode is just more stressful and intense and 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: just amazing TV than the last. And yeah, no wonder 10 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: the show has now just taken on this huge. 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 3: You know, it's. 12 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: A part of the zeitgeist of reality TV in such 13 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: a short period of time. This is such a fun 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: couple of episodes because we kind of finally they finally 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: kind of hone in on Faedra, who has played coy 16 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: for so long with everyone there, you know, Faedra finally 17 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: she needs someone to join her in the turret because 18 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: everyone's getting picked off. She asked Kate to join her 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: as a trader. Kate accepts. Do you guys think that 20 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: that was a smart move? 21 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: I do. I think it was a great move. 22 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 4: I do too, because I think most people would think 23 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 4: Kate coming in, they wouldn't instantly put her as a trader. 24 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: Because it's the least person that wanted to play the 25 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: game at all, and most people that become traders are 26 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: like so into it, Like Carolyn on my show used 27 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: to sleep with a cloak on and go food shopping 28 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: with a cloak on like these are. She's not a gamer. 29 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 5: Of course she did. 30 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 2: She wanted you know, Kate wanted no part of this. 31 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: She had to be threatened by death to even take 32 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: the job. 33 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I think that the only way you 34 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: make Kate a trader is in this way, because I 35 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: would assume for producers they really only want people to 36 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: be traders who want to be traders. And I don't 37 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: even like, like you said, I'm not even sure if 38 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: Kate wants to be on this show, let alone a trader. 39 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: But I am glad. 40 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: I'm one think TV is better when she's on it 41 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: more often, and this definitely injects a lot more Kate 42 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: into the show. I just don't know if it's a 43 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: smart move for Faedra. 44 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 4: Well, Kate did change coming back. Remember last season. The 45 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 4: first season she was on, she was just like, I 46 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 4: don't want to be here, dad, Like at least she 47 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 4: acted like she wanted to be there. Yeah, you know, 48 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 4: so she wasn't. I guess it almost felt like her 49 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 4: first season. She's almost kind of like the stick of 50 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 4: I don't want to be here, Nah, send. 51 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: Me home, get pissing people off. 52 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, And and she comes back and now she's a 53 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 5: trader with. 54 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: Well she's a little more into it, but still she 55 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: has the stigma of not wanting it. Mm hmm, like 56 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 2: she's not a gamer. We're not going to look at 57 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 2: her on the best of days, even after we find 58 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: out she's a trader and say that she wanted that. 59 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's kind of a genius argument 60 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: to have at the roundtable of like, I'm not a trader, 61 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: I don't. 62 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 3: Even want to be here. What do you talk? 63 00:02:59,240 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: Right? 64 00:02:59,480 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: Right? 65 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: I would be like, that's a good argument. I can't 66 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: really fight that. I wonder if you know, the decision 67 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: between Trichelle and Kevin to be murdered that night. I 68 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: wonder if the Traders ended up watching it back and 69 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: kicking themselves and not getting rid of Trischelle, who was 70 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: someone who was really really. 71 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: I didn't understand that decision. 72 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 4: Well, Torischelle, she's a great player. Because this was the 73 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 4: first time in the turn her name was ever even mentioned. 74 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 3: Right, she was coming at Faeda hard though, but. 75 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 2: She was coming at Fedria hard. And by now the 76 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 2: most important thing I think for the traders was to 77 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 2: be to get out the people that were coming for them, 78 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: even if it looked suspicious. So if they chose Kevin 79 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 2: because it wouldn't look suspicious, they didn't have the time 80 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: to do that. They had to get rid of like 81 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 2: the real players, and Kevin wasn't a real player. They 82 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: might have won. I think Fadri could have very much 83 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 2: won if she got rid of Trochelle that night. 84 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, but Trichelle was going after Fada, so it would 85 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: have put it would have still kept the the spotlight 86 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: on her, maybe a little bit, I'm not sure. 87 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: But then she could have said the spotlights on me? 88 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: Why would I do that? She could have used that 89 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: as an excuse, which has done so many times, like 90 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: why would I be that stupid to get rid of 91 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 2: the person who's coming for me? That should really show 92 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:20,600 Speaker 2: you I'm not a trader. 93 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, but Trichelle, if I remember correctly, she had a shield, 94 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 4: so even if she got rid of she was still there. 95 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:28,679 Speaker 4: She kept it. 96 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 5: She kept it a secret, that's right. 97 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 2: So they didn't have a choice. 98 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, but she kept a secret, so nobody knew that 99 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 5: she had. 100 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 2: Why did they keep MJ. Why wasn't she brought up 101 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 2: that night? 102 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: Well because I feel like MJ was still defending Phedra 103 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: and that's why they didn't want to get rid of her. 104 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 2: Got it. 105 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 3: That was my take on it. 106 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: Well, one thing that I thought was interesting about the 107 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: breakfast the next day is MJ asking if Kate's okay, Like. 108 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: Why isn't that unbelievable? 109 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: Usually are, which is code for you don't look as good, 110 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: which is code for you didn't sleep last night, which 111 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: is code for trader. 112 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: You look like you don't seem like the light, like 113 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: the light has been taken out of it. And like 114 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 2: I could imagine what Kate was feeling because she wasn't 115 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: there three minutes before somebody's calling her out for looking different. 116 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: That was a good call on MJ's part, a really 117 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: good call. 118 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 4: Well, I remember talking about it early before I was 119 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 4: even gone. It's like, look at the people that look 120 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,679 Speaker 4: extra tired, look at the girls that you know don't 121 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 4: have like. 122 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 5: The makeup on the way they used to, and but 123 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 5: you look at Phaedra. Padra had like I mean, she 124 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 5: look like a professional glam. She did herself every single day. 125 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: You know, there's no rhyme or reason really to go 126 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 2: with because, like I said, and you know, when it 127 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: came down to us, you had you know, Chanel, I 128 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 2: am laying underneath the table sleeping, and she was literally 129 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: the length of the breakfast table. But she like I 130 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: could put my feet on her as a foot rast 131 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: and she was like exhausted. 132 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 5: So oddly, I can't remember anything about your season. I 133 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 5: watched the whole thing and recapt it. I can't remember 134 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 5: anything good. 135 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 2: Then it'll be a nice surprise to you. And now 136 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: we're done with this. I love that. 137 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 4: I was just telling Kad and I go, but I 138 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 4: don't think I watched season three. He goes, you recapt it, 139 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 4: so my memory. 140 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: Is so great. 141 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: Welcome to your fifty. So much fun here in this club. 142 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: So you know, Fhadra's whole kind of plan is to 143 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: break up the Peter pals. Trichelle knows that they're outnumbered. 144 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: Peter thinks that he needs to convince either Sandra or 145 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: CT or both of them to win. I'm kind of 146 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: surprised that CT is so gung ho at Peter because 147 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: it I mean, obviously we don't see everything, but it 148 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: seemed like Peter was the most faithful of the faithfuls. 149 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 4: So you don't think CT was smart till Peter he 150 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 4: was leaning towards him, or it was too risky. 151 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 3: Oh, so I didn't think about it that way. You 152 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 3: think that was that was gameplay? 153 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 5: I don't know. I would imagine. 154 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: I would imagine that CT probably knew that Phaedra was 155 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: a trader, and and him going at Peter might have 156 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: been a way to be like, I. 157 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: Want to stick around as long as I possibly can. 158 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: Right, So, yeah, you refresh my memory for one second. 159 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: Was CT good at picking traders? 160 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: I think? 161 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 3: So? 162 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 5: I have no memory? 163 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, what show is this? 164 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: I mean, it's not like we didn't recap the whole show, 165 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: but I know, I know anyway, CT's something. It's funny 166 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: when when Fadra dubbed him the repo guy. 167 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that. 168 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 5: Give hern me. 169 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: Let's talk about this mission. You know, they have to 170 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: shoot these arrows at these stained glass whatever, and whoever 171 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: is left over at the end gets a shield and 172 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: kind of a big thing happens that I bet at 173 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: the time Faedra didn't think was a big thing. But 174 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: the movement over from trying to go for I guess 175 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:18,239 Speaker 1: CT and then down to Trichelle that was what Faeder 176 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: wanted to do and went away from the plan, and 177 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, that was Trischelle being like, you're 178 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: a trader because you're trying to get me killed exactly. 179 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: So if she was going to do that, why didn't 180 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: she just murder her? But here's the thing, I think 181 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: she was wrong about that. I don't know if Fadria 182 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: really had a game plan on it, but it didn't 183 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: matter because she was right in bringing it up the 184 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: roundtable of like you did this, CT felt the same way. 185 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: It was a CT's kind of idea, and yeah it was. 186 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: It was interesting because it was a thing that I 187 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: think was a downfall of fadraa that I don't know 188 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: if she even. 189 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 3: I don't even know that she even noticed she had 190 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: done it. 191 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think she did. 192 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 1: He thinks he's up for banishment. He separates Phajor from 193 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: the group, while Forschelle convinces you know, the entire click 194 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: to vote for. I think the one thing that Peter 195 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: does poorly is he's always kind of pulling people aside 196 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: and scheming and stuff, and I think I think that 197 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,239 Speaker 1: it looks suspicious. 198 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: Well, it alienates people. No one likes to be alienated. 199 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 2: So whether or not that he people would have thought 200 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 2: he was a trader. I wouldn't have liked that about him, 201 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: and I love him. 202 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 5: It would make you think he was a trader. 203 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 2: It would make me think he was a trader, and 204 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 2: it would make me feel left out, yeah, son, and 205 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,199 Speaker 2: I'd be pissed off, and then I would want to 206 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 2: get rid of him just for making me feel left out. 207 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: Get my point. There's more than one reason for people 208 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: to want to vote you out other than being a trader, 209 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: Like people just not liking you. Yeah, you getting on 210 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 2: people's nerves, being annoying, chewing loud. 211 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of people being annoying, this is kind of 212 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: confirmed when we had to show on the show. But 213 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: at the roundtable, John calls out Phedra immediately in this 214 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: like long winded, you know, soliloquy. 215 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 5: Because you have no idea. 216 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Tama, I want to ask you, did we 217 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 3: have not see idea? 218 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 2: No? 219 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 5: You did not see it all. 220 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 4: I mean we're like, literally bullet points, please, bullet points. 221 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 4: He would go on for so long, like we had 222 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 4: to film so much longer because he would not shut up. 223 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 3: Yeh. 224 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 2: And he goes into great to detail. 225 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 5: You know, and half of the stuff you don't even understand 226 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 5: what he's saying. 227 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're very wordy. 228 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: He's very wordy, but he has like amazing clips. Like 229 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: as an editor, I'm sure they were like. 230 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, much to pull from. 231 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: That's the whole thing. When you're in post, I'm sure 232 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: that they're like, this is great, but not for you 233 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: sitting there, Tamra. 234 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 5: We're just like, please stop it, stop talking. 235 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: John. 236 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 5: I'm surprised he made as long as he did. 237 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, this this roundtable was the most frustrating for me 238 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: because it seems so very obvious that Fader is a 239 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: trader and that Peter isn't, at least to me. But 240 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: that's also you know, hindsight twenty twenty, and I know 241 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: what's really happening because I can see who's in the tourret. 242 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 3: But unfortunately, you. 243 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 1: Know it, it gets it's a it's a stalemate, right. 244 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: Four votes for Peter, four votes for Faedra comes down 245 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: to MJ. You surprised at MJ ended up voting for 246 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: pilot Pete over Fader. 247 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 4: I wasn't surprised, yeah, to her loyalties to Phaja. 248 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: So here's one thing I wanted to talk to you 249 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: guys about because I think it's very interesting. As a producer, 250 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: you notice that they never start with the same person 251 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: who's voting. So this is some behind the scenes stuff. 252 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: There are cameras that are seeing all everything that we're writing, 253 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: right right. 254 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 3: So then they go. 255 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: I'm sure they've got a whiteboard back there in the 256 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: control room and they say, Okay, they're voting for so 257 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: and so. They're voting for so and so. They're voting 258 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: for so and so, so we need to have them 259 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 1: start so the last vote matters. 260 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 2: Oh my god, well you're not. But you're a smarty pant. 261 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, you never really thought about that. Absolutely. 262 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 4: There is like a bazillion cameras everywhere in the round table. 263 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 4: Like you said, yeah, they see your every move. 264 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: Well, I mean this is it happened to me. The 265 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: last person to vote. It was a tie vote for me, 266 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: and the last person to vote was Carolyn, who was 267 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: a trader who voted for me. And that was when 268 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: I saw that. I was like, oh, it comes down to. 269 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 3: Person. 270 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Anyways, that's just a little some insider baseball. 271 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: I thought it was kind of interesting to talk about. 272 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 2: Oh I just got chills. Yeah, that was good. 273 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: Okay, on to the next episode. Uh, you know, we 274 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: find out that MJ votes for Peter, he's banished. Peter 275 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: reveals he's obviously a faithful Trichelle and John and CT 276 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: seemed so not mad disappointed with everyone for making such 277 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: a bad mistake. 278 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 5: Stupid yeah, because they know, well. 279 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 2: There's not a lot of time left right to find 280 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 2: these traders at all, so it's down to the wire now. 281 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: It was funny when when Pete left, he at the roundtable, 282 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 2: he said, if you don't get a trader tonight and 283 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 2: you vote for me, they're going to win. 284 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 285 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 2: I believed him when he said that, by the way, and. 286 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: I believe he believed that too, Like I think that 287 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: that was he was speaking his truth, not trying to 288 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: be like save me. It was like, listen, if you 289 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: guys don't do this, it's going to be over for you. 290 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 3: It almost was almost. 291 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, and the CT knows he thinks two brother girls 292 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 5: are traders. Yeah, and they are. 293 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 3: He's smart. He's a smart repo man. 294 00:13:58,720 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 2: He is he is. 295 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: So uh breakfast. The next day we find out John 296 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: was murdered. I assume John was murdered just because people 297 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: were just annoyed with him at this point. 298 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: I think so I do. I mean, he was just. 299 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 5: Such a nothing burger on the show the entire time. 300 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 5: He really was. 301 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 4: He just like was goofy and said his long winded 302 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 4: stuff and he was no threat to anybody. 303 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, well then why murder him? 304 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 5: Well it's getting down to the end. 305 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so you see there's why because who do you 306 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: think she should have been murdered? Probably am j Oh, 307 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: she's my friend. 308 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, but there's no friends in this game. 309 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 3: If they know who's been on their side and who 310 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 3: isn't you have to get right now. 311 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 2: That's what it comes down to. So since Mjay was 312 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: actually protecting Phaedrus, she's staying. So anybody protecting the traders 313 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: isn't going anywhere. 314 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 315 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: Uh the mission is fun. I uh like, this is 316 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: one that I wish I got to do. It looks 317 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: like it's it's almost like like America Ninja Warrior. Have 318 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: the run across these floating you know, boois and get 319 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: the gold over there. 320 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 2: It was hard. 321 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 5: It looked really difficult. 322 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: It did look and it looked cold and gross, and 323 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: when Phedro went in, she looked very angry, which I 324 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: don't blame her for, but also like I liked. I 325 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: liked missions like that because you end up having people 326 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: like underdogs who you were like, end up rooting for. 327 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 5: Right, So you like digging to the dirt trying to 328 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:31,359 Speaker 5: find shields. 329 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, getting wet. 330 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 5: No, it doesn't sound fun to me because it's so 331 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 5: cold there. 332 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: That's true. 333 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 2: It was so cold, and all the skinny girls had short, 334 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 2: short things on all the time, hardly wearing any clothes. 335 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 2: I honestly couldn't wait for every one of them to 336 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: leave because I wasn't walking around like. 337 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 4: That was that was Echen Sue on our show Beautiful Girl. 338 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 4: She'd be like crop tops and like mini skirts. I'm like, 339 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 4: it's twenty five degrees outside, where are you going? 340 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was free in that castle, and it was 341 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: unseasonably wet and cold when we were there. 342 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 3: I don't remember. I wasn't there for very long. 343 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 2: Science anyway, And moving. 344 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: On, speaking of the cast that we go back to it. 345 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: You know, one thing that I found interesting from this 346 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: season compared to our season is they really gave the 347 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: cast some some room to breathe when they came home 348 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: from missions before round tables, to be able to talk 349 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: and scheme and pull people away. There seems like there 350 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: was a lot of time after missions before round tables, 351 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: whereas I felt like and doors, I could be wrong, 352 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: So I wasn't there for very long, but I felt 353 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: like it was when missions ended. There wasn't a whole 354 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: lot of time to be able to like talk to 355 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: people before. 356 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: No, that's true, there wasn't. 357 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 5: There was my season too. 358 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 4: It was more about especially because you know what people 359 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 4: don't know, like because we filmed one episode in one day. 360 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 4: After your mission, you have to go back, and if 361 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 4: it's a dirty one, got. 362 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 5: To go back, take all those clothes off, clean yourself. 363 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 2: Up, and they're ready to go around him. 364 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 5: Put the clothes on that you were wearing before you 365 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 5: went on the mission. 366 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there was more time in the morning, Yes, before. 367 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 5: The mission, you mean breakfast time, and. 368 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: Breakfast time shortly after breakfast is when you all get 369 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 2: in your huddles and then whatever, Like the general consensus 370 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: is kind of follows through the day. It's very rare 371 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 2: that a little change, especially if there's no time to 372 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 2: make a change, or if something doesn't happen and somebody doesn't. 373 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 2: A lot of the times, really the traders never really 374 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: actually show their hand. There's still a guessing game at 375 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: that roundtable. We have yet to seen a trader really 376 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: screw up. 377 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 5: I feel like, oh Dan didn't do that great of 378 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 5: a job. 379 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: Well, he just sucked in the end, but I think 380 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 2: he thought he was better than he was at the 381 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 2: game and that's what made hurt. 382 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 5: Well after the challenge, you know who thinks is a trader? Sandra? 383 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 5: She thinks Page is a trader. 384 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 4: She's finally everyone is like, okay, yeah, she we need 385 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 4: to get her out. 386 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 2: Well, she almost went out the night before. Like if 387 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 2: the person that doesn't almost leave the night before, usually 388 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 2: at the next roundtable they're out. 389 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 390 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: There wasn't a whole lot of argument from her. I 391 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: think one she was exhausted to she knew like she 392 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 1: got got right. 393 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 3: Like so at some point you got to be like, 394 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 3: all right, how. 395 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 5: Hard do you think it was for Fader to lie? 396 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, race Base when she asked her are you a trader? 397 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 4: And she had to lie and say no, I mean, 398 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 4: could there be a point it might be against the 399 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 4: rules just to say like. 400 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 5: Like, yes, but I'm going to take you with me 401 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 5: all the way to the head. 402 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 3: It is against the rules. I read the rules. 403 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, so she had she had no other choice but 404 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 5: to lie. 405 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 3: Yeah. 406 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 1: I want someone to do that though, So yes, at 407 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: some point to be like no, I'm not I'm not 408 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: a trader and the like when. 409 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 2: But you can't win with a trader, faithful can't win 410 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: with a trader. 411 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, but then you just wait, Okay, so what if 412 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: you did this? So, yes, so a trader tells a 413 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: faithful that they are a trader not to tell on them, 414 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: They wait until they have to recruit, and then they 415 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: go get that person. 416 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 5: Yes, exactly. 417 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you don't know if you're going to be 418 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: the one to be able to recruit. 419 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 4: You don't put on how tight you are with that 420 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 4: person too. Do you think that Chara should have trusted 421 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 4: her gut? She thought Phaedra was a trader, but she's 422 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 4: also her friend, so. 423 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:40,239 Speaker 1: She's It's tough because you don't want to believe it's 424 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: a game still, but you don't want to believe bad 425 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: things about your friends, right, and so that's ever Yeah. 426 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: Like I mean you know, my rule of thumb is 427 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 2: if my friend says they didn't do it, they didn't 428 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: do it. Yeah, so it's hard. I wouldn't want the job, 429 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 2: let's put it that way. I don't want to be 430 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 2: a Trader. 431 00:19:56,840 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: We finally get the vote to get Fader out. It's 432 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: basically a landslide. It is a landslide. Even Kate, fellow Trader, 433 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: votes for Faedra, and then Kate kind of makes a 434 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: decision that I thought was very interesting. The way that 435 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: she kind of went at Phaedra. It seemed unnecessary, and 436 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: then it also seemed like a put a big target 437 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: on her back. 438 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was weird. I don't understand the reason behind it. 439 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 3: I don't either. 440 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: We'd have to ask Phaedra. 441 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 3: It just seems like she was trying to do a 442 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 3: little too much. 443 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: I mean, Sandra is the one who like realizes it 444 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: and was like, I gotta come talk to her about this, 445 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: Like this doesn't make a whole lot of sense. 446 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. I thought that that was interesting. 447 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: She hasn't been a trader long enough to know what 448 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: to do and what not to do, right, so unfortunately 449 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: she's I think she made a bad play there, But yeah, 450 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: it's it's almost over. There's only one Trader left, and 451 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I know what happens. I'm excited to watch 452 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: these last two episodes. 453 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 2: Me too. It really the ending is so rough, like 454 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 2: it was like, oh and I bet you. If I 455 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 2: was a betting girl, I'd say I'm j still mad, 456 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 2: just saying. 457 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,479 Speaker 5: She was pissed. Even at the reunion. She was pissed. 458 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 5: She was pissed at her and then Bananas was pissed 459 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 5: at Dan. 460 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 2: Housewives hold grudges. 461 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 5: Some housewives hold grudges. I forgive, but never forget. 462 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: All right, thank you guys so much for listening to 463 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 1: buy Order of the faithfuls. If you're not following us 464 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: on social media, please do. We're at by Orders of 465 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: the Faithful. Tell your friends and family about the show 466 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: if you like it. 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