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Speaker 1: Native Lampard is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 1: Welcome, All right, everybody so happy almost fourth of July.

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Speaker 1: We spend a lot of time on this show contemplating

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Speaker 1: the difference between juneteenth fourth of July, what we should

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Speaker 1: be celebrating, what we should be acknowledging what we want

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Speaker 1: for ourselves. We spent a lot of time in our

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Speaker 1: main show this week talking about what we deserve, how

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Speaker 1: we reimagine where we are as a country, and we

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Speaker 1: thought it would be important to have some of these

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Speaker 1: reflections with you all today as we go into the

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Speaker 1: fourth of July holiday weekend, on the observed Independence Day.

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Speaker 1: If y'all are feeling independent at all, What to the

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Speaker 1: descendant of the enslaved person is?

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Speaker 3: The fourth of July? Frederick Douglass asked us what to

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Speaker 3: the slave is?

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Speaker 1: And I think now, as the descendants, we have the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to contemplate.

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Speaker 3: What it is and what today and what it should.

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Speaker 2: Be it is and also not just the sentative slaves,

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Speaker 2: the enslaved, but also so people who still exist through

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Speaker 2: the remnants of slavery and it's lasting, lasting, long cast

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Speaker 2: shadow over American society. The original sin is the original

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Speaker 2: sin because it's foundational, it's and when you build from

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Speaker 2: a foundation that is not solid, that you know, leaning

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Speaker 2: on one side, the structure that comes out of it

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Speaker 2: will be affected the same way. And I just think

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Speaker 2: our brother and yeah, I'm sorry, Jordan, apologies. I think

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Speaker 2: we should turn the to Andrew Young. Oh, yes, one

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Speaker 2: of our brothers, to help set us up for the

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Speaker 2: state of where we are right now.

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Speaker 4: When you think about this nation celebrating is two hundred

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Speaker 4: and fiftieth anniversary, how do you reflect.

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Speaker 3: On this moment? How is the state of our union.

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Speaker 5: Now? Yes, we're in worse shape than we've ever been

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Speaker 5: in my lifetime in some.

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Speaker 4: Ways, in nearly a hundred years.

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Speaker 3: You think that this is the worst.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But somebody who grew up in the segregated South,

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Speaker 4: who knew bloody Sunday per personally, who knew the dogs

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Speaker 4: that were sicked on black people and the hoses, you

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Speaker 4: think that today, twenty twenty six is the worst this

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Speaker 4: country has ever been.

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Speaker 5: I think my biggest disappointment in this time in my

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Speaker 5: life is that we can't count on a Supreme Court

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Speaker 5: for anything. M the country hasn't gone to the dogs.

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Speaker 5: It just seems like too many people with doggish mentality

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Speaker 5: got into positions of power. I'm still very positive and

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Speaker 6: I think that the context of that interview matters a

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Speaker 6: little bit, because, if I'm not mistaken, he did that

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Speaker 6: interview inside the Andrew Young wing of the Barack Obama Library,

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Speaker 6: which is kind of fascinating in itself. My dad says

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Speaker 6: that we're back in nineteen fifty four, right before Brownie Board.

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Speaker 6: He always says that, I think the difference is that

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Speaker 6: the systemic issues, the systemic cancers and institutionalized issues we've

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Speaker 6: had around the issues of race are far more pervasive

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Speaker 6: than they've ever been. And I think I said this

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Speaker 6: on Bill mar one night with Ben Shapiro was the guests,

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Speaker 6: and you would have thought that, like I had white

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Speaker 6: people on set by saying that we're back in nineteen

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Speaker 6: fifty four, I said on the other night on CNN

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Speaker 6: that the only thing that's changed is they've taken off

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Speaker 6: their clan hoods and put on Brooks Brother suits. And

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Speaker 6: I had to put security in front of my house

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Speaker 6: for a couple of weeks. People do not see the

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Speaker 6: violence per se. They do not see the dogs and

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Speaker 6: the water hoses. They don't see the colored only or

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Speaker 6: white's only signs. They don't see the February first, nineteen

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Speaker 6: sixty Woolworst lunch counter. They don't see the imagery of

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Speaker 6: Ruby Bridges having to go into school. They don't see that.

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Speaker 6: So they're not able to, truly, I believe, feel the

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Speaker 6: pain of the institutionalized and systemic racism that still exists

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Speaker 6: in this country the way that we are. And I think,

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Speaker 6: and I've said it before and I'll say it again,

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Speaker 6: I think that the challenge the three of us have,

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Speaker 6: whether or not we want it or not, is to

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Speaker 6: is that the price for change in this country for

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Speaker 6: black folk is as high as has ever been. He

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Speaker 6: saw the Von Pettis Bridge, he saw the assassination of King,

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Speaker 6: he saw the assassination of Malcolm. But he also saw

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Speaker 6: those names that people don't talk about, like Jimmy Lee Jackson.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 6: He also knows about Henry Smith, and Samuel Hammond and

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Speaker 6: Jackson State. And the fascinating part about Andy Young and

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Speaker 6: my father and Eddie Raie and many others is that,

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Speaker 6: like all of their contemporaries are dying now, and I

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Speaker 6: think that there's a certain level of disappointment that many

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Speaker 6: of the accomplishments and successes that they believe that they

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Speaker 6: attained are being somewhat eras. Yeah, roll back, rode back

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Speaker 6: and a race, because it's one thing. So that's the

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Speaker 6: funny part, Andrew. I'm glad you said that it's one

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Speaker 6: thing to roll them back, and then it's another thing

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Speaker 6: to erase them as this year efforts never existed.

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Speaker 2: I think there's one and the same, right, roll them

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm talking about not only that, but I'm just

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Speaker 6: meaning like the history books as well. So like you

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Speaker 6: roll back, there's one thing. It's one thing to be

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Speaker 6: a woman right now, and like when you give birth today,

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Speaker 6: the child that you give birth to, if you're a woman,

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Speaker 6: is going to have less fundamental reproductive rights than your grandmother.

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Speaker 2: Right they are going they correct delivering their child into

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Speaker 2: a society where you were correct, then the parents have

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Speaker 6: But so not only is that rollback a parent but

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Speaker 6: also they're erasing the history so that the people who

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Speaker 6: actually fought so we would have Roe v. Wade aren't

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Speaker 6: even being about it anymore. And so that's what the

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Speaker 6: disappointment is. It's not just the rollback. It's saying, now

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Speaker 6: you're disrespecting the efforts and the blood and the sweat

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Speaker 6: and the tears that I pulled it into having that

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Speaker 6: positive change. And I think that that that that hurts

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Speaker 6: and the Young a lot more than even sometimes the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well for good reason. It's personal.

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Speaker 6: It's personal.

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Speaker 2: It's personal, and but but it's also communal for him,

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Speaker 2: I get it. Yeah, the truth is is the Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but Andrew Young knows who his history as well. That

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Speaker 2: that has That is always always the plan of the conqueror.

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Speaker 2: The conqueror who gets to then write the history on

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Speaker 2: what they conquer, always tell a lie in the resetting

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Speaker 2: of that. They always bleep out or diminish, erase. What's

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Speaker 2: true about that? Of the civil rights monuments we had

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Speaker 2: to assess here in Floridas, of many of the civil

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Speaker 2: rights monuments Civil War. I'm so sorry civil War monuments

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Speaker 2: that were erected. Of course, we're not erected after reconstruction

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Speaker 2: was rescinded and the few years that we got of that. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: The vast amount of Civil War memorials came about during

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Speaker 2: after Brownvie Board of Education, after the integration in this country.

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Speaker 2: Was why le thee embracing accepted, right, so and on

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Speaker 2: those here, tallahasse I remembers running your ovenors at the time.

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Speaker 2: They protested us saying that we should remove one off

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Speaker 2: the Capitol grounds and come to find out, the whole

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Speaker 2: goddamn thing was made up. The monument was not based

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Speaker 2: in factual history. They had written a story to how

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Speaker 2: do you say, romanticize what that looked like? So that

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Speaker 2: I know he knows that to be the case. What

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Speaker 2: I think really probably has to sit real hard with

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Speaker 2: him and a lot of others is that they're looking

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Speaker 2: around and they're probably not seeing or hearing the voices

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Speaker 2: of the visionary leadership, commanding communal leadership that they provided for.

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Speaker 2: And they didn't think of themselves that way at the time. Right,

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Speaker 2: they were just doing a thing because it needed to

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Speaker 2: be done. But you're talking about and Andrew Young, who

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Speaker 2: could reach over and touch the shoulder of a Martin

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Speaker 2: the shoulder of John Lewis, and those names propagate, you know,

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Speaker 2: greater and greater, and now we are the people who

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Speaker 2: then read about them and our history books and have

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Speaker 2: unapologetic voices of righteousness, and they feel a little hollow,

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Speaker 2: maybe not as big as they should be. And then

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Speaker 2: and then the employment framework of the country today, and

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Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, you can be as experienced as you

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Speaker 2: need to be well trained. You're a general, you're a

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Speaker 2: brigadier or whatever, and you're getting fired for the color

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Speaker 2: but because of the color of their skin and their gender,

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Speaker 2: and so this is this does feel blinking, It does

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Speaker 2: feel hard. You feel like you're in commiseration with with

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Speaker 2: the freedom fighters of yesterday who are just demanding the

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Speaker 2: And at every term we're not right, we've been denied.

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Speaker 3: If we were to.

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Speaker 1: Lean into not what just like the least of these expectations,

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Speaker 1: but like, reimagine what we actually deserve, what we've actually

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Speaker 1: to fifty to look like one. I know, we certainly

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be here where the rights of our rights are

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Speaker 1: liberties have been you know, retracted in such a way.

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Speaker 1: My dad, since you talked about your father, said that

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Speaker 1: he's not seen it this bad. He doesn't remember a

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Speaker 1: so I think that what I would love for us

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Speaker 1: one thing that we could offer our listeners, what's the

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Speaker 3: What's the thing that we would hope for.

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Speaker 6: Mine is easy. I just still from Jesse Jesse Junior.

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Speaker 6: I mean Jesse, not even seenior, but Jesse Jr. In

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Speaker 6: his book, he said that there needs to be two

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Speaker 6: new amendments to come institution, one that grants for access

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Speaker 6: to first class education and one of the grants access

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Speaker 6: the quality healthcare.

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Speaker 1: I thought he also the vote right. Didn't he also

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Speaker 1: want a constitutional amendment for voting rights?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, but yeah, constitutional amendment for voting rights.

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Speaker 6: Actually he said too, and I juxtaposed that and took

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Speaker 6: that out. But yes, the constitutional amendment for voting rights.

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Speaker 6: So three constitutional amendments would be the thing that I

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Speaker 6: would do.

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Speaker 3: That's healthcare, education, voting rights.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 3: Be sorry, I keep doing that, Andrew, you or not

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Speaker 3: be Andrew, Yeah, No, I.

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Speaker 2: but I would say the next two fifty the agency,

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Speaker 2: because I think part of what your dad be your

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Speaker 2: dad obviously, brother Ry Andrew Young are reflecting is that

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Speaker 2: in their youth, I think you also felt like you

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Speaker 1: Blow mine would be, and it is reflecting back on

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Speaker 1: a reparative, restorative justice that where America has to make

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Speaker 3: And so I want us to experience reparations.

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Speaker 1: I want us to experience being granted, not given, but

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Speaker 1: granted what is rightfully ours from our institutions of higher learning,

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Speaker 1: seen that model. When we did attain, they went, they

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Speaker 1: I pray that we are divinely protected, we receive economic

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Speaker 3: Let America be true to what is set on paper

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Speaker 3: for the next two checks. Okay, and on that note,

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Speaker 3: we're back to Young Miami.

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Speaker 1: remains your home. I know we haven't done listening questions.

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Speaker 1: much Bakari I meant today, but a hit y'all will

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