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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive John with Ashlyn Sello tells John Oshans,

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Speaker 1: Bryan Sexton, Janks right, John starts right now? Fourth fun

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about? No, I'm just kidding. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not there yet. I mean I will get there.

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Speaker 1: All coaches get there, and if they tell you they're not,

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Speaker 1: they'll probably not be a truthful with you. If yeah,

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Speaker 1: you get I'm one of those people if you remember,

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Speaker 1: just it's every tea cross and every I got it

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Speaker 1: and every tip sheet? Why is this? You know? Why

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Speaker 1: drive you know, instead of players, I drive coaches crazy.

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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure those players have a shot.

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Speaker 1: I love the honesty from head coach Urban Meyer. Of course,

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Speaker 1: he is nervous for his first game in the NFL

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Speaker 1: regular season, but the Jaguars have prepared for months for

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Speaker 1: this moment and expected a lot from that coaching staff,

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Speaker 1: like we've seen throughout the whole offseason. Welcome to Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Drive Time Thursday morning to you by Jet Home Loans,

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Speaker 1: Ashton Sullivan, Brian Sexton, John Osier. Gearing up for Week

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Speaker 1: one of the regular season, heading to Houston on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: he didn't look nervous there, I didn't look No, No,

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Speaker 1: he didn't, he didn't, he didn't. He's not nervous. He

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Speaker 1: said he was horrified, not horrified. And I know I've

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Speaker 1: seen the highlight clips of his time at Florida and

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, where you know, he was very animated on

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Speaker 1: be at a peak, he'll be ready, He'll be emotionally taught.

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Speaker 1: If you will, it's t A U T, thank you.

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Speaker 1: But he won't be nervous. No, and not for long.

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Speaker 1: Once that quarterback gets into a groove at some point

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Speaker 1: in his young career, you stopped worrying as much and

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, the nerves will go away.

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Speaker 1: Funny how that happens. Yeah, let's go in two big things,

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Speaker 1: shall we. Big thing one is a healthy team, we

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Speaker 1: think and we hope. We thought at this point of

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Speaker 1: the season that we really want to be talking much

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Speaker 1: about COVID anymore tears testing. Well it's not the case.

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Speaker 1: It's very much still present, and we're seeing what's going

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Speaker 1: on with the Dallas Cowboys and the Miami Dolphins losing

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Speaker 1: players Week one of the regular seasons, so we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have to pay attention to this until Sunday, hoping the

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Speaker 1: roster stays intact. For now, the offensive line is intact,

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Speaker 1: and that's a big deal. Obviously, they were off three

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Speaker 1: days and they came back with great energy. We're really

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Speaker 1: day tomorrow, but really good work today. It helps when

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Speaker 1: you have either lineman back. You know, we have word

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Speaker 1: that everybody should be ready to play Sunday, so that

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Speaker 1: really lifts up practice right there. Big things to a

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Speaker 1: line in the turf. The Texans have won six in

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Speaker 1: a row against the Jaguars. They've won ten of the

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Speaker 1: past twelve games. Well why because they've owned the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage and they just have had better players who

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Speaker 1: have played better. Jaguars have the chance to reset the

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Speaker 1: score with the Houston Texans, and it begins upfront for

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars. Big thing three is fifteen in a row. Oh, no,

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Speaker 1: fifteen losses in a row last season. I do not

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Speaker 1: have to remind you, even though I just did. We

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Speaker 1: of a sudden, a sixteen losses in a row for

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars and Brian this is their chance. Stop it.

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Speaker 1: If I if I'm him, I'm mad at you for

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Speaker 1: putting my picture underneath that, right because I don't want

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Speaker 1: which is why you did put the picture there, to

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Speaker 1: If they win on Sunday, obviously no more talk of it.

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Speaker 1: But if they lose on Sunday, then it's now it's

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Speaker 1: sixteen in a row, and then if you don't beat

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Speaker 1: it's connected. The past and and and the present are connected.

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Speaker 1: But you eliminate that right now, new era begins with

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Speaker 1: There is another one all of a sudden it feels

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Speaker 1: and you no longer have J. J. Watt and that

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Speaker 1: how desperate the series had become. The Jaguars won both

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Speaker 1: there had been this feeling the Jaguars, no way they

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Speaker 1: So the series they played thirty eight times. Right, this

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Speaker 1: the Texans have won five. I mean, it's domination on

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Speaker 1: Jaguars can't match up for him. They couldn't match up

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Speaker 1: Thanks you play, I do. I just wasn't expect Okay,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you this. The Texans have just added

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Speaker 1: If they can't do those two things, then yes, Amadel

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Speaker 1: Ammandla really gives them. You've got a veteran quarterback, he's

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Speaker 1: I would be more worried about Brandon Cooks out of

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Speaker 1: the guys on the Texans roster, or he can fly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: released from the Saints probably have their eyes on him. Possibly.

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Speaker 1: I don't think this is fixed this week, and I

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Speaker 1: think this will somewhat be a carousel of the last

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Speaker 1: running back running back spots on the practice squad, something

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Speaker 1: we're gonna pay attention to all year. I think they're

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Speaker 1: said at one and two I mean Robinson and Hide.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that will change and and so I

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Speaker 1: think the the fluidity comes in that spot right and

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Speaker 1: then if there are any injuries. So I mean the

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Speaker 1: hide relationship with urban Meyer has not really been a

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Speaker 1: story out front. But I talked to him the day

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Speaker 1: the training camp opened, or the day before training camp

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Speaker 1: all he talked about, and all he wanted to talk

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Speaker 1: about was his relationship to the coach coaches. The reason

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Speaker 1: he's here. He believes in the coach, the coach, the coach.

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Speaker 1: I think the coach believes in him too, So I

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Speaker 1: actually think you might see hy to have a big

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Speaker 1: game on Sunday. Remember he had a big game against

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars in twenty nineteen, fifty eight yard run, six

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Speaker 1: yard day. I would I would think that he would

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Speaker 1: be a key contributor. I actually think there's some stability

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Speaker 1: in this room except for that one spot. Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll rotate in the last spot trying to

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Speaker 1: find an answer, and uh, I don't know that they'll

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Speaker 1: find it, but I think they'll keep trying. We're not

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Speaker 1: gonna find the speeding explosive. This chance. Those guys are

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Speaker 1: on the street, well, I think I think that Damien

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Speaker 1: Wilson inside linebacker and Devon Hamilton's no tackle Brian's guy

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Speaker 1: could be two overlooked reasons the Jaguars will improve defensively.

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Speaker 1: And I say overlook not that we really overlooked them.

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Speaker 1: But every time I write about the Jaguars changes on defense,

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Speaker 1: I write about bringing in Malcolm Brown. I write about

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Speaker 1: jahad Ward and Roy Robinson Harris and maybe a little

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Speaker 1: bit of Damian Wilson. But I don't write about Hamleton

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Speaker 1: that much because he would you should. He was here

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Speaker 1: last year. But uh so. But if you're not thinking

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Speaker 1: about these guys as a big reason this team could

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Speaker 1: be better, then you're missing it. Because these guys may

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Speaker 1: not be Pro Bowl guys this year because are not

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Speaker 1: going to be every down guys. But if you were

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Speaker 1: picking reasons why this team can be good on first

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Speaker 1: and second down, which they have to be better at,

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Speaker 1: these two guys might be the main reasons that they're better.

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Speaker 1: I think Devon Hamilton's can play at a Pro Bowl level.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that that he gets there this year,

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Speaker 1: I totally get. But he is a run stuffing nose tackle.

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Speaker 1: And you don't have to have any particular NFL pro

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Speaker 1: football college football knowledge at all. Just look and see

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Speaker 1: who's making plays, who's disrupting. And all we saw in

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Speaker 1: the preseason was fifty two. And all we saw last

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Speaker 1: season when he was on the field was this this

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Speaker 1: curb arrow straight up he is. Yeah, graph, there's the

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Speaker 1: right term. Um. When you watch it, you see fifty

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Speaker 1: two making play after play after play. I think he's

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Speaker 1: a terrific player. And Damian Wilson sdarn smart. People may

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Speaker 1: not know he was with the Chiefs the last two years.

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Speaker 1: One one Super Bowl. Obviously, they came in second last year,

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Speaker 1: so he brings a different element that may be missing

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Speaker 1: to that front. And that's a guy that knows how

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Speaker 1: to win championships. Yes, he is a winner, and truthfully,

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Speaker 1: I forget about him. You're right, Damian Wilson is a

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Speaker 1: guy we do not. That's why I think. I think,

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Speaker 1: I think you forget about good players. Um, I think

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Speaker 1: that the Jaguars special teams. I think I think the

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Speaker 1: Jaggar special teams will be a strength and I think

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Speaker 1: they have the chance to be really, really good. First

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Speaker 1: of all, I loved Lambo the spiciness in his conversation

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Speaker 1: the other day. When you look at his numbers, he's

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Speaker 1: been a really good kicker. Here he was injured last

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Speaker 1: year and now he appears to be piste off that

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Speaker 1: people are questioning him. Fine, let's bring it. I think

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Speaker 1: I think I think Logan Cook is one of the

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Speaker 1: better punters. You know, you just look at how tall

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Speaker 1: he is in that length that he gets with that

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Speaker 1: long leg, and he drives the ball high and down

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Speaker 1: the field. But listen to these names. Rudy Ford, the coach,

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Speaker 1: told us, was one of the better gunners he had

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Speaker 1: ever seen in his football career. He sided Dakota Allen,

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Speaker 1: Wingered Jack Quarterman, uh, Daniel Thomas, Chris Claybrooks, Starry Gunba Wally.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven

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Speaker 1: guys that he names specifically as being standouts on special teams.

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Speaker 1: And he's got a very strong as jamal An told us,

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Speaker 1: bend towards special teams. Agnew by the way, the other guy,

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Speaker 1: former All Pro kick returner Um who they brought in

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Speaker 1: from Detroit, and Agnes said, the reason I came here

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Speaker 1: is because the coach said, I'm going to make it

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Speaker 1: a priority. Every coach says that he's a but I

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Speaker 1: believe in what urban Meyer said to me about it,

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Speaker 1: and I've watched the way that he's gotten involved in

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Speaker 1: drills and instructing the gunners and then coming over and

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Speaker 1: talking to the kicker. Um, I think the sun is

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Speaker 1: gonna shine this year on special teams. Obviously, that's play

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Speaker 1: on Nick Strenson, who neither one of you guys know

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Speaker 1: right he was. He was gone by the time you

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Speaker 1: got here. Couldn't pick him out of the line up. Um. Well,

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Speaker 1: he came into two thousand and three, they had a

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Speaker 1: terrible day in Carolina and Jack Dorio's first game, and

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Speaker 1: they went out and signed him immediately and he was

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Speaker 1: here for four years. Was terrific on special teams. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: he came late in the summer when the Jaguars had

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Speaker 1: to make a special teams coordinator approach. His Nicknami had

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Speaker 1: the long hair. That was when we remember the Titans

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Speaker 1: was out. He became Sunshine. Um. And now there's another

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Speaker 1: and I wish, yeah, I wish there was no Now

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Speaker 1: this covid in tears stuff because he's a great guy,

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Speaker 1: a terrific interview, and I'm excited to see what he

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Speaker 1: does with it. I like it. That was the I

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Speaker 1: just realized that I said the joke. They're not going

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Speaker 1: to get it because they weren't here. Yeah, I get

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Speaker 1: it now, good one. Um. I do think the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: special teams will be you know, you think you think

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Speaker 1: they're going to be good. Well, considering the amount of

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Speaker 1: equity they've put in. Yes, So it is a big

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Speaker 1: it's a big commitment on urban Meyer's part. It's a

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Speaker 1: big calling card that he wants. Uh, it's a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a risk, I'll be honest with you, because

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Speaker 1: kickoff returns because of the rule change, are not quite

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Speaker 1: as important as they were ten years ago. So that's

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Speaker 1: the one area where I've heard people say, well, why

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Speaker 1: would you do that. I've gotten questions about that. I

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Speaker 1: think it's still smart because this is a team. When

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Speaker 1: you are a team trying to get back up, you

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Speaker 1: need you need strength somewhere. This can be a strength

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Speaker 1: of their well uh, and they've made a remarkably strong

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Speaker 1: commitment to it. Hidden yardage, right, the yardage that's lost

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Speaker 1: in field position is such a big part of the game.

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Speaker 1: Even if they're diminishing kickoffs, there's still the opportunity to

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Speaker 1: pin someone deep with a good mortar kick or with

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Speaker 1: a great punt. Those yards help a team that's trying

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Speaker 1: to get their way back up the ladder. On my

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Speaker 1: thought on kickoffs is, you know, if you get to

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Speaker 1: the flipped fields for you during the season, then it's

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Speaker 1: all worth because that can change to yeast. Very true.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned that that the pressure and the involvement of

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Speaker 1: coach Meyer and special teams, drills and anyone else. Think

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Speaker 1: it was humorous when Josh Lambo said, okay, we might

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Speaker 1: have had a conversation about him standing so close to

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Speaker 1: me during practice and the conversation went like this. I

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Speaker 1: would have loved have been in that conversation. Why are

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Speaker 1: you standing so close? Because I'm the head coach. Okay, coach, Okay,

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Speaker 1: got it. That's how I keep doing it. I would

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Speaker 1: have loved known how that conversation went. But but if

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Speaker 1: I'm the head coach, I want a spicy kicker. I

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