WEBVTT - Millionaire Match-Up

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<v Speaker 1>Hell I Suck at Dating with Dengler and Dared Haven

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<v Speaker 1>and I heard radio podcast What's going on? Everyone? Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to an all new episode of Help I Suck At Dating.

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<v Speaker 1>I still don't really know our format, Jared, do you?

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<v Speaker 1>Is this a Wednesday's episode? Listen? And I'm plugging in

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<v Speaker 1>my mic right now. I'm printing papers for the shop.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot going on. Okay, I didn't know we

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<v Speaker 1>were starting this soon. I thought you were gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>me a minute. So the format is that we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>two can I don't know if you can hear me,

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<v Speaker 1>but the format. Welcome to a bonus Help I Suck

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<v Speaker 1>at Dating episode where we get to interview your favorite guests.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say that yeah, so yeah, like, well, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what we're doing two episodes a week and listen.

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<v Speaker 1>If you guys didn't know this already, TENA and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't make any decisions around here. My heart says, hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>jump and we say, okay, cool, that's what happens. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't even ask how high because we're like, we'll just

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<v Speaker 1>do our best and then figure out the rest later.

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<v Speaker 1>But the good news is the best news is that

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<v Speaker 1>Abigail is back. That's the most important thing. Abigail is

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<v Speaker 1>back co hosting, because let's all be real, she's the

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<v Speaker 1>only one who really does a good job on this thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. I just blurred stuff, you know, That's all

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<v Speaker 1>we do. I guess that's what a podcast is is

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<v Speaker 1>when you think about the bare bones of a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>is you just talk and talk. So we do a

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<v Speaker 1>good job at that. Keep talking, just keep going. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but we do have a really special guest that's coming

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<v Speaker 1>up as well. For any fans of Joe Millionaire out there,

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<v Speaker 1>let me bring up my rundown. Very professional with me

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<v Speaker 1>right now. I know it's Steve, but I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get his last name correct. So Steve mcbe Steve, what

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<v Speaker 1>a name. So we had Kurt on here from Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Millionaire a few weeks ago. Kurt is the guy who's

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<v Speaker 1>not a millionaire, and and now we have Steve, who

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<v Speaker 1>is the actual millionaire from Joe Millionaire and uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>episode spoiler alert, the finale aired last night. Uh, he

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<v Speaker 1>leaves with Kala. I'm saying that correctly, right, I think so,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's supposed now, Yeah, it's not Kayla, it's Kala. Kala.

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<v Speaker 1>Hannah can you confirm, I'm confirming, and it's Steven. What

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<v Speaker 1>do I say, Steve? Steven? Listen, Jared, you don't become

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<v Speaker 1>a multi millionaire by letting people call you Steve. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Steven, get it right, Yeah you do. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever heard of Steve Jobs? Steven Jobs? You mean? Um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard of the revolutionized in the world. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have Steven McBee. I'm gonna ask him if

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<v Speaker 1>he like Steven or Steve better. I would love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to do that. I would love you.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have Kala, who, of course, he gave, once

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<v Speaker 1>again spoiler alert, a promise ring to last night. They

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<v Speaker 1>left together after he disclosed that he is the millionaire.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a millionaire and also told her that he

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<v Speaker 1>owns a helicopter and flies it himself. So this guy

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<v Speaker 1>is getting cooler by the day. I'm sure cal is

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<v Speaker 1>very excited about that. So we're gonna talk to them.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh in just a few minutes. There you go. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a Joe millionaire fans, stick around, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to help I suck at dating. Like we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about before the break, we have some very special guests.

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<v Speaker 1>If you guys are fans of Joe Millionaire for rich

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<v Speaker 1>or Poor, which I know you are because pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>it's captivated the entire country, Uh and world, really I

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<v Speaker 1>think it anyway, it doesn't matter, boy it is. We

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<v Speaker 1>have two very special guests. We have Stephen McBee and

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<v Speaker 1>we have Kala Jackson. Kala Stephen, how are you guys?

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations you're finally publicly known to be in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. It's been a long time coming. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was a stressful few months. Haven't you

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<v Speaker 1>stay in the house. And we probably snug We definitely

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<v Speaker 1>snuck more trips than we should have, but we made

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<v Speaker 1>it snug trips. What does that mean? Like you going,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing? I promise you made under the

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<v Speaker 1>radar trips. So whenever you're on a dating show, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously most people know you can't be seen in public

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<v Speaker 1>and you're not supposed to be seeing each other unless

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<v Speaker 1>there's a producer there, and you know the network has

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<v Speaker 1>set up the you know, the visit, so it's all

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<v Speaker 1>kept under the road. Well, we snuck a few more

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<v Speaker 1>than we should have. Like, I think we've seen each

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<v Speaker 1>other three out of four weekends since the show. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna get in trouble for saying that, are you know?

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<v Speaker 1>It's all over? We made it. Three are sometimes where

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<v Speaker 1>I was sweating a little bit. Do you what do

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<v Speaker 1>you guys do? Do Do you want to like a say pause?

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<v Speaker 1>You go do like a different country? What do you do?

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<v Speaker 1>The reason why it works is that I live in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of nowhere. In my nearest house is five

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<v Speaker 1>miles from my nearest neighbors. So she would just come

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<v Speaker 1>up and there was not a soul in sight. Nice, Well, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever works, I guess did you Kyla? Has he picked

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<v Speaker 1>you up in this helicopter yet? We have taken a

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<v Speaker 1>few helicopter rides. Are you terrified? It's scary, but it's fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember that. Oh my god, that sounds terrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for you? Is Stephen a good pilot? He actually is.

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<v Speaker 1>He takes like a good hour to prep and like

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<v Speaker 1>walk around and he has like a little checklist before

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<v Speaker 1>we go up in there. So it made me feel

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<v Speaker 1>very safe for sure. Nice. I don't want I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to brag or anything, but I've got fifteen hours

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<v Speaker 1>into my student pilot's license. So Steve, you want to

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<v Speaker 1>fly together? Man, Yeah, you're getting there. But yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can fly a drone. I can fly he No,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's not that easy. But hey, Steven, I

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<v Speaker 1>got a question for you that Jared and I are

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<v Speaker 1>dying to know the answer to. Um, do you ever

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<v Speaker 1>go by Steve? Uh? No. So my mom grew up

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<v Speaker 1>like anyone. Anytime anyone called me Steve, she made it

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<v Speaker 1>a point of emphasis to say, hey, his name is Stephen,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's because my dad, you know, my dad goes

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<v Speaker 1>by Steve. So that's the distinction there, right, separated by

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<v Speaker 1>one letter the end is all the all the difference

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<v Speaker 1>you need. Yeah, because when we were talking about how

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<v Speaker 1>you're coming to the the podcast and I was like Steve

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<v Speaker 1>McBee then, what a cool name. And then our producer

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<v Speaker 1>was like it's Steven and I'm like, yeah, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Steve. Would be upset. We don't want to upset

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<v Speaker 1>Mrs McBee. So now that so, now that you're finally

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<v Speaker 1>able to be public with with your relationship, have you

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<v Speaker 1>seen it change at all or is it more or

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<v Speaker 1>less the same? Uh? Well, we have not actually been

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<v Speaker 1>out in public yet. We went to Texas Roadhouse last

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<v Speaker 1>night for a little celebratory dinner. But were we drove

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<v Speaker 1>down to Dallas because we're celebrating this weekend. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>actually meeting up with Kurt Um and then her friend

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<v Speaker 1>Whitney from the show, and we're having like this big celebration.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's gonna be a good time this weekend. It'll

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<v Speaker 1>be interesting to see how things go tonight, Dallas. What

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<v Speaker 1>what bar are we going to? Uh? Sistance tonight on

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<v Speaker 1>the Dallas side. Okay, all right, I'll catch my next

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<v Speaker 1>flight out of Las Vegas. I'll eat you guys down there.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice Abigail. So, Abigail hasn't been fully caught up on

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<v Speaker 1>this season. So can you guys listened on the last

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<v Speaker 1>episode between you two, Kurt and the rest of them? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>spoiler alert, Abigail. Alright, so basically, you know, I'm left

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<v Speaker 1>with Annie and Kala, Kurt's left with Amanda and Caroline,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know, any such an incredible woman, um,

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt about it. But my connection with Kala um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was just so much better. She fit

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<v Speaker 1>in with my family. Uh, and it really just loves

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<v Speaker 1>a farm life and everything about it and has some

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<v Speaker 1>experience in it, and um, you know, my connection was

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<v Speaker 1>so much stronger, even though you do not see that

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<v Speaker 1>on the screen. The producers purposely cut that away to

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<v Speaker 1>mislead the viewers. Uh, And if you ask Kala and myself,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a little over the top. Yeah, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was. You know, we had We've done several interviews

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<v Speaker 1>this week and they're all just absolutely flabbergasted at the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that I picked Kala, and I'm like, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see anything, any of the intimate moments between us. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that was productions point was to do the

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<v Speaker 1>shock factor at the end. I think definitely got the

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<v Speaker 1>shock factor. Yeah, so are you guys? Are you guys

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<v Speaker 1>not upset? But are do you wish they had portrayed

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<v Speaker 1>a little differently? Yeah, definitely, because we had a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>solid connection since the beginning, but none of it was shown,

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<v Speaker 1>Like all of our sentimental moments were cut out, most

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<v Speaker 1>of our conversations as well. Yeah yeah, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's really rough for her, especially, you know, she's telling

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<v Speaker 1>her family and friends to watch the show, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>watching it and they're like, Kelly, you aren't even on here,

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, and then you know, I had yesterday on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter right before the show, someone was like, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna buy Stevens. I have a jerky and meat

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<v Speaker 1>stick Lion. Someone's like, I'm gonna buy Steven's meat sticks

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<v Speaker 1>unless he picks call and then I'm not going to.

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<v Speaker 1>And then like right after the finale, they're like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>never buying his meat. Yeah, we're well to offset that,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll buy twice as many of your meat sticks to

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<v Speaker 1>drive to sales up a little bit. Kelly, So you

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<v Speaker 1>see yourself living, like fitting into his lifestyle pretty well,

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying, then, Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean I'm

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<v Speaker 1>from Dallas and my stepdad owns a cattle ranch. I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up with horses, Um, you know, working stables early morning,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm kind of used to have a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of experience, and you know, it really hasn't been too bad.

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<v Speaker 1>We actually have a house closing in three weeks in

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City, so we'll be closer to the city and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, bars and restaurants. Congratulations, congratulationss go ahead. But

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say how long ago was filming? So

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<v Speaker 1>filming ended October eighteen, so yeah, wow, that's a long

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<v Speaker 1>time ago. Yeah, it was a while back. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>what is it? Five months? Yeah? Months? Yeah? Yeah. Has

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<v Speaker 1>it been a pretty smooth sailing for you guys all?

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<v Speaker 1>Five months? Yeah? I mean it's honestly, it's been smooth

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<v Speaker 1>sailing for the most part. I mean the episodes were

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a little rough, you know, just because of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we knew what we had during filming and

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<v Speaker 1>it just wasn't shown. So there were some ups and

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<v Speaker 1>downs there, But for being long distance and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having to keep it under wraps for six months, it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty solid. Nice. Yeah, that's the cursory out of TV.

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<v Speaker 1>I think all us cann test do you think or

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<v Speaker 1>you get something like hilarious or you're like scared they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna show something, and then the episode comes and like

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<v Speaker 1>none of it gets there and you're like, okay, like

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on with this? I don't know, It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's an interesting situation. Um seven. So it's great

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<v Speaker 1>that she fits into your lifestyle. Is that something that

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<v Speaker 1>you like wanted to make sure you're looking for when

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<v Speaker 1>it came to who you chose? Yeah, I had to.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you know what, right now, I live in

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<v Speaker 1>that little bitty small town and I knew that if

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whenever I found the girl I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>settle down with, that wasn't gonna work. But even living

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<v Speaker 1>in Kansas City, like whenever we get our new house,

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<v Speaker 1>the farm is always going to be a big part

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<v Speaker 1>of my life, even if I'm not living there full time.

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<v Speaker 1>And so she's got to be someone, uh, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that can fit in on the farm, can fit in

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<v Speaker 1>around my family and college checks all those boxes for sure. Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. I love that. What's what's your relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with Kurt? Like, now, I know you said you're meeting

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<v Speaker 1>him to party, but yeah, I mean it's honestly, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's stronger than ever. I mean, it's it's only built

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<v Speaker 1>since the show ended. I mean there was one weekend

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<v Speaker 1>where my dad flew out to Charlotte, uh, and he

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<v Speaker 1>ended up hanging out with Kurt and I wasn't even there. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Kurt's basically just another family member at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys did seem like brothers on the show. Like

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like you guys grew a bond pretty quick. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we hit it off from day one. I

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<v Speaker 1>was actually nervous about it, you know, whenever I found

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<v Speaker 1>out there was another guy. I was like, oh man,

0:11:14.200 --> 0:11:16.600
<v Speaker 1>it's just just gonna be a jealous competition the entire time.

0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.000
<v Speaker 1>And within two minutes of meeting him, you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>was just a brow to me and such another guy. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>so I got a question, then, how did you Because

0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:27.520
<v Speaker 1>we talked to Kurt on this podcast maybe like a

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<v Speaker 1>month ago, um, and we kind of got his origin

0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:31.280
<v Speaker 1>story as to how he got picked for the show.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you get selected for the show or how

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<v Speaker 1>did that all come about? Yeah, so January one, they

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<v Speaker 1>messaged me on Instagram. Cornwall Casting, a casting company hired

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<v Speaker 1>by Fox did um and honestly I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>a joke, responded to it, just you know, lighthearted response,

0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:47.400
<v Speaker 1>and he said, hey, let's just set up a quick

0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:50.360
<v Speaker 1>zoom And ended up working from casting company to four

0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:53.720
<v Speaker 1>nine five Productions to Fox the network and uh actually

0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:55.920
<v Speaker 1>found out I was the first guy they interviewed and

0:11:56.000 --> 0:11:59.079
<v Speaker 1>Kurt was literally the last one. So it's interesting the

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<v Speaker 1>too perspect this we got. Um. You know, obviously I

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<v Speaker 1>had to send over a bunch and we went through

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<v Speaker 1>like three months of audits on all my financial information

0:12:06.559 --> 0:12:08.840
<v Speaker 1>to make sure that I was truly qualified as a millionaire.

0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:11.080
<v Speaker 1>I guess they've had some issues, Um, you know with

0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:14.640
<v Speaker 1>some people falsifying information was getting like I was like

0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:16.320
<v Speaker 1>telling them at the end of it. I was so frustrated.

0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:17.760
<v Speaker 1>I was like, look, I'm giving you guys more information

0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:21.400
<v Speaker 1>that I give my taxes. Uh. And then you know,

0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:24.320
<v Speaker 1>ended up getting selected and it's all sensitive information to

0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.080
<v Speaker 1>like your social security class. I'm like, I don't know

0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:28.959
<v Speaker 1>you guys were Adam, like, this is really starting to

0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:32.360
<v Speaker 1>weird me out. My accounts are gonna be wiped out. Yeah, well, hey,

0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:34.320
<v Speaker 1>props to you for going through it. Obviously it worked out.

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<v Speaker 1>What about you? How did you end up on the show? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. We're well. Casting reached out to me

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<v Speaker 1>a via Instagram and um, we went through about six

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<v Speaker 1>months of interviews and yeah, it was from March up

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<v Speaker 1>until September, and they told me probably two weeks beforehand

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<v Speaker 1>that I was selected. Isn't so funny to think about,

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<v Speaker 1>like just some random casting agency reach outs to both

0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:59.520
<v Speaker 1>of you separately and now here you are together. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It so Yeah. I just I made a post on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I don't know how or why the

0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.640
<v Speaker 1>stars aligned. It's weird, how you know, twists and turns

0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:21.520
<v Speaker 1>of life goes, but it's pretty neat. Yeah. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the finale a little bit because obviously

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<v Speaker 1>the crux of the show is that you don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who the millionaires and who like quote unquote the average

0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Joe is, even though I think Kurt has pretty well

0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:34.920
<v Speaker 1>from suff Yes, the point is, um, you know, Kla,

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<v Speaker 1>what were you What was your emotions going into that night?

0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Do you think anything really would have changed if Stephen

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't a millionaire? Oh? Not at all. I had gotten

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<v Speaker 1>to know Stephen for who he was as a person,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think this process really helped with that. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I just I knew how genuine he was

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<v Speaker 1>and how good hearted he was, and that's really all

0:13:54.920 --> 0:14:00.320
<v Speaker 1>I care about. Stephen. Were you, like not inst cure

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<v Speaker 1>about it, but especially going into this entire process where

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<v Speaker 1>you nervous that that people might be trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>with you for quote unquote the wrong reasons? Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, going into it, I thought, honestly that they

0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:14.839
<v Speaker 1>were going to try and find a bunch of legitimate

0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:17.080
<v Speaker 1>gold diggers, and so that's what it was going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>But once I got there, especially once we got to

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<v Speaker 1>like the top ten or twelve women. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>really really good group for women. And you know, it's like,

0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:26.280
<v Speaker 1>from one perspective, you're like, you know, probably would have

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<v Speaker 1>made the show better if they actually had true gold

0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:31.160
<v Speaker 1>diggers there, But we had a really good group of

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<v Speaker 1>women to where I don't think, you know, it was

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<v Speaker 1>almost like production forced them to talk about the money aspect.

0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Otherwise they had never even talked about it. Definitely prompted

0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:44.000
<v Speaker 1>more than you would think, so, Kelly, even from your perspective, like, uh,

0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:45.840
<v Speaker 1>when it was just the girls hanging out talking, you

0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:49.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't really see much of that, uh then talking about

0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:52.280
<v Speaker 1>the money, asked, I mean, there are a few girls

0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:54.280
<v Speaker 1>who aren't you know, prompted, who are trying to figure

0:14:54.320 --> 0:14:56.920
<v Speaker 1>it out for sure, especially early on. But I think

0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:59.440
<v Speaker 1>as it dwindled down, those are the more genuine girls

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<v Speaker 1>who are actually they're looking for like a real relationship

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<v Speaker 1>on it. For sure. The bigger aspect, or the bigger

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<v Speaker 1>you know, twist of this was the two guys rather

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<v Speaker 1>than one being a millionaire one not just the fact

0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:12.080
<v Speaker 1>that these two guys I think was the more interesting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we had no idea what the show was called until

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<v Speaker 1>I think the day three of filming, so we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know the content, what it was called, or that there

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<v Speaker 1>were two men and either. So, um, how was that

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<v Speaker 1>first day like jitter's wise? Oh, I know, whenever Kurt

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<v Speaker 1>and I walked out on the back patio to introduce

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves to the women, we were sitting in that the

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<v Speaker 1>butler's quarters like choreographing our movements for like three hours

0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:38.240
<v Speaker 1>and we ended up having like three large glasses of scotch.

0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:40.000
<v Speaker 1>The producers came in there and took the scotch out

0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.560
<v Speaker 1>of the room like you guys are done, and uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was you know, we were pretty nervous. I'm

0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:46.680
<v Speaker 1>not gonna lie nice. Yeah, That's why it's funny how

0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:49.720
<v Speaker 1>that always is. I've been on four reality dating shows,

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<v Speaker 1>and every single time, the first day I'm always like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is terrifying. The first day you're just like I've

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<v Speaker 1>made a giant mistake. And it was such a long

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<v Speaker 1>day night of filming. I think we started at three

0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:07.840
<v Speaker 1>pm and we didn't end until ten am the next morning. Yeah,

0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:10.520
<v Speaker 1>wrapped the first day, I was like do I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even want to do this? Still, Like is this gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be an everyday thing? Yeah? Yeah, And sure enough. It

0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:19.840
<v Speaker 1>basically was for yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask to because Stephen in the finale that you give

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<v Speaker 1>Kala a promise ring. Yeah, tell me what the significance

0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:34.600
<v Speaker 1>of a promise ring is. Well, you know, the producers

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<v Speaker 1>were really pushing Kurt and I to do a proposal,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're just not people that are going to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, be forced into a proposal. You know, We're like, look,

0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:46.200
<v Speaker 1>we barely you know, really know these girls. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>on two solo dates with Kala. Other than that it

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<v Speaker 1>was just group dates. And yeah, I know we have

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<v Speaker 1>a good connection, but I don't know anything about her

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<v Speaker 1>other than that. Um. And so I was like, yeah,

0:16:56.000 --> 0:16:57.800
<v Speaker 1>she'da ran off if I pulled out and got on

0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:00.480
<v Speaker 1>one knee. Sheeta ran out of that house so fast. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I was like, look, what I'll do is

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<v Speaker 1>a promise ring. And this the significance of this promise

0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:07.920
<v Speaker 1>ring is that, you know, I promised to you that

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<v Speaker 1>my feelings are true, my connection with you is true,

0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:12.959
<v Speaker 1>and that once we leave these walls, this this bubble

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<v Speaker 1>of filming, that we're actually gonna give this a real shot,

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<v Speaker 1>a legitimate shot. And this isn't just for some ploy

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<v Speaker 1>just to you know, just for the cameras. I think

0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:22.320
<v Speaker 1>that's so much more realistic too. I mean, we had

0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:25.720
<v Speaker 1>known each other for seven weeks at that point. So

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<v Speaker 1>did you guys talk about it beforehand that you guys

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<v Speaker 1>weren't gonna get engaged or where do you thinking? Maybe

0:17:35.200 --> 0:17:37.680
<v Speaker 1>that I was actually really nervous because I knew Kala.

0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:39.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, Kala is someone that takes it really slow.

0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.080
<v Speaker 1>You can see that throughout the episodes, even that she's

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<v Speaker 1>really slow to open herself up, really slow to catch

0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:46.639
<v Speaker 1>those feelings and really fall for anyone, which I like,

0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:48.919
<v Speaker 1>and I'm I find myself a lot of the same way.

0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:52.359
<v Speaker 1>Um So walking down there, like Kurt and I were like,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta talk to these women and let them know, like, hey,

0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:56.000
<v Speaker 1>we're not just you know, we pull these rings out,

0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:58.719
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna freak out. And so I was freaking out

0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:00.479
<v Speaker 1>because we didn't have the chance to talk talk to him.

0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:02.800
<v Speaker 1>So you don't see it make the cut in the finale,

0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:04.919
<v Speaker 1>but like, as soon as I'm reaching into my jacket,

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<v Speaker 1>before I even do anything, I'm like, just so you know,

0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:08.639
<v Speaker 1>this is not a proposal. And then I pulled the

0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:10.960
<v Speaker 1>ring out. But yeah, she had taken off if I'd

0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:13.720
<v Speaker 1>pulled it out and got to the knee. Nice reaction was,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, thank you, Like I'm not gonna lie.

0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:20.800
<v Speaker 1>That would have made for a great television so amazing.

0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:23.760
<v Speaker 1>And Steve and I think, you know, hopefully one day

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<v Speaker 1>when you do propose, you reach into your jacket and

0:18:26.680 --> 0:18:30.480
<v Speaker 1>you're like, just so you know, this is a propose name. Yeah.

0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:33.359
<v Speaker 1>And for the record too, I've done I'm doing the

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<v Speaker 1>promise thing right now. I still wear a promised ring

0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:37.399
<v Speaker 1>with my girlfriend. It's great. You know, more people should

0:18:37.400 --> 0:18:40.880
<v Speaker 1>do promised rings. I feel like promises are incredibly underrated. Yes, yeah,

0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.879
<v Speaker 1>the Dean as he just showed, he wears like seven rings.

0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:48.119
<v Speaker 1>That was a promised ring. I want to build out

0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:50.440
<v Speaker 1>the collection. It's hard to find quality rings these days,

0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:52.760
<v Speaker 1>you know. I just want to stumble across them as

0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:56.520
<v Speaker 1>they come in my life. So, um, Stephen and kla

0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I suppose we've got the promised ring. There had to

0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:02.600
<v Speaker 1>be some conversation now that you guys know each other

0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:05.359
<v Speaker 1>more six months in the relationship, is they're going to

0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:08.960
<v Speaker 1>be a level up from the promise ring anytime soon?

0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:12.479
<v Speaker 1>Do you think you know? Klle just moved up last weekend,

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<v Speaker 1>so we wanted to cross that hurdle of going from

0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:18.919
<v Speaker 1>long distance to seeing if we're compatible when we live together. Um.

0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:21.280
<v Speaker 1>And so you know, we have the house that's closing

0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:23.560
<v Speaker 1>here at the end of March, and we're both people

0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:25.640
<v Speaker 1>again that take it slow. So we're just taking things

0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:28.240
<v Speaker 1>day by day, making sure we can live together and

0:19:28.280 --> 0:19:30.520
<v Speaker 1>not want to kill each other. Um. And you know,

0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:32.200
<v Speaker 1>once we see that we can do that. I mean,

0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:34.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, we don't want to put a specific timeline

0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:36.000
<v Speaker 1>on anything, but we're just gonna play by ear. Yeah,

0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:37.560
<v Speaker 1>there's not need to put pressure on it right now.

0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:39.560
<v Speaker 1>Just take things at our own pace. And I think

0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:41.639
<v Speaker 1>we're enjoying each day as it's come so far. And

0:19:41.840 --> 0:19:44.440
<v Speaker 1>you guys are being way way too rational about this.

0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:49.720
<v Speaker 1>I want to hear something. I want to hear something crazy,

0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:52.840
<v Speaker 1>like you guys got married actually are if if Kurt

0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:55.320
<v Speaker 1>would have had his if Kurt would have had his

0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:58.920
<v Speaker 1>choice on night one of filming, he would have proposed Caroline.

0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:02.560
<v Speaker 1>No doubt they ran off together. Like the producers were

0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:05.639
<v Speaker 1>telling curR, Hey, you've got like there's nineteen other women

0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:07.639
<v Speaker 1>here at the time. You've got to open yourself up

0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:09.440
<v Speaker 1>and he's like no, He's like, I'm leaving with Caroline

0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:15.879
<v Speaker 1>right now. He didn't pick Caroline, no good thing, he

0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:18.240
<v Speaker 1>didn't run off with her on the person night. Yeah,

0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:20.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's crazy. And by night one he was like, yeah,

0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:23.359
<v Speaker 1>he's like, Caroline's in that's my that's my girl. And

0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:26.200
<v Speaker 1>you could tell even in group settings they definitely gravitated

0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:31.320
<v Speaker 1>towards each other each time. Before we let you, guys go,

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<v Speaker 1>I got one question. I guess it's maybe less of

0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:36.280
<v Speaker 1>a question more of a request. Um, you're moving to

0:20:36.320 --> 0:20:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Kansas City, you said here pretty soon? Can you guys

0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:41.919
<v Speaker 1>just promise me you're not gonna be Kansas City Chiefs fans?

0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:47.159
<v Speaker 1>I promise you on everything all the way. Okay, okay,

0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:50.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get her into Patrick Mahomes Jersey here pretty quick.

0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Are you Are you already a Chiefs fan? Oh? I'm

0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:58.800
<v Speaker 1>a huge Chiefs I'm a Broncos fan. We got Russell Wilson,

0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:03.080
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, my need the West is looking good, Jared,

0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:04.040
<v Speaker 1>I haven't even had a chance to talk to you

0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:07.520
<v Speaker 1>about Russell Wilson yet. Well, here's the thing. So I'm

0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:09.640
<v Speaker 1>a die hard Patriots fan, also a diehard Tom Brady

0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:12.199
<v Speaker 1>fan because I'll always support that man. Point being, I

0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:15.479
<v Speaker 1>think what the Raiders need to do very two seconds

0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:18.480
<v Speaker 1>on sports, Josh McDaniels needs to do whatever he needs

0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:20.600
<v Speaker 1>to do in order to try to get Tom Brady

0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:23.359
<v Speaker 1>out of Tampa, out of retirement, into the into a

0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Raiders uniform because long story short, McDaniels and the Raiders

0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:28.959
<v Speaker 1>are gonna finish in last place two years and then

0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:30.760
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna get fired, So he needs to do whatever

0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:33.679
<v Speaker 1>you have Russell Wilson, Patrick Mahomes and Justin Herbert all

0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:37.760
<v Speaker 1>own one division get Tom Brady to the Raiders. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, and uh yeah, you know. I mean, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be fun. They f C West is like

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<v Speaker 1>loading up now Khalil Max on the charges. It should

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<v Speaker 1>be a lot of fun things. Anyway we do, we

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<v Speaker 1>are dating, and then I'm sure we just lost a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of followers right now. But I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask one more question. Now that you guys are out

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<v Speaker 1>in public, you don't have to hide your relationship anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the thing that you're most looking forward to

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<v Speaker 1>doing together? A question? What we're gonna be doing this weekend?

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<v Speaker 1>Just going out with friends, going out to dinner, going

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<v Speaker 1>out to bars, and just being a normal couple. It

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<v Speaker 1>has been so hard staying pooped up because we're both

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<v Speaker 1>social people and we have a lot of friends. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been hard keeping this a secret for five six months. Yeah. Nice,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all. It's definitely the best to see your signal

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<v Speaker 1>failer in that light, to like being able to take

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<v Speaker 1>them out and like hang out their friends and all

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. Um, you definitely learn a lot

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<v Speaker 1>over the six first six months, but I feel you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are gonna learn a lot more about each other

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<v Speaker 1>over the next three months, probably right, especially now that

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are like in the media doing all these

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<v Speaker 1>interviews and everything, like, it's such an exciting time for

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<v Speaker 1>you guys. Absolutely, Yeah, Yeah, we definitely definitely enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's been a long time coming, remember now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I like when we were able to go on

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<v Speaker 1>public just the first team months work just so fun.

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<v Speaker 1>So I definitely enjoy yeah, very much. Thank you guys

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<v Speaker 1>so much for joining us. We're so happy for the

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<v Speaker 1>both of you. You can't wait to see you guys

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<v Speaker 1>at the Chiefs game when they're getting their butts kicks

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<v Speaker 1>by the Broncos. This next season. Um, we hope you

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<v Speaker 1>guys have the best time together and we're excited to

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<v Speaker 1>see what you guys to you next. So thanks so

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<v Speaker 1>much for joining us. Than thank you, Yeah, cheers, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>H alright, bye guys, thank you, congrats, thank you, appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, Well, that's gonna do it for this week's

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<v Speaker 1>episode of Help I Suck At Dating. Abigail, thank you

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