WEBVTT - Googie: The Architecture of the Space Age

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a production of I

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's Chuck and Jerry's hanging out and this is

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff you Should Know. Are continuing Architecture slash Design Suite Surprising. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's surprisingly interesting stuff. Huh. Yeah. And this one, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean listen however you listen, but if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a choice, I really would urge you to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>this when you can look at pictures of things. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this one above many many episodes, requires you to look

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<v Speaker 1>at this stuff as you're listening. Ideally, Yeah, and so

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<v Speaker 1>if you can do that, do that, yeah, because we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be mentioning specific buildings that you could go check

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<v Speaker 1>out and be like, oh, this is what they're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna do our best, but we're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>describing structures. And it's just way easier to look at

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<v Speaker 1>the structure. You know, it's got a swoopy pointy thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's basically it. Olivia was kind of enough to insert

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<v Speaker 1>hyperlinks into what she sent us. I mean it's super easy.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even have to google the googie and that

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<v Speaker 1>is what we're talking about. It's not a type of everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Googy. It's a kind of architecture G O O,

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<v Speaker 1>G I E UM, And it is basically the architecture

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<v Speaker 1>that you think of when you think of the nineteen fifties,

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<v Speaker 1>mid fifties to the very early sixties in America, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the fifties when they were thinking of the nineties exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a really good way that might look like. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were way way off, but I mean, how

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<v Speaker 1>great would the nineties have been if it looked like

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<v Speaker 1>what they thought it was going to look like in

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<v Speaker 1>the fifties. I think it would have been pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I am personally a really big fan of Googy architecture.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nothing like I don't go tour the buildings or

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<v Speaker 1>anything like that. In fact, there's one in Georgia, and

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<v Speaker 1>I looked up where that town is and I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not worth the drive, but I do like looking

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<v Speaker 1>at pictures of them. I might That bank is three

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<v Speaker 1>and a half hours from my house, and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to open up an account there just so I can

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<v Speaker 1>drive down to that amazing building in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>nowhere southeast Georgia. It is really the middle it's not

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<v Speaker 1>near anything, nothing nowhere around it, but it does have

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<v Speaker 1>a really fine example of Googy architecture, which we'll get to,

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<v Speaker 1>which we should probably define beyond it's the architecture that

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<v Speaker 1>you think of when you think of the fifties or sixties, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And before we define it, I just want to say

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<v Speaker 1>that my love affair with Googie started out when I

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<v Speaker 1>was a kid. When I first honestly, when I first

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<v Speaker 1>went to Tomorrowland to Disney World, and then when I

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<v Speaker 1>started watching the Jetsons and being in Georgia, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see any examples of Googy really growing up UM, but

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<v Speaker 1>took my first trip to l l in nineteen eighty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a bunch of Googy. I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>love this stuff. And then in the n I took

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<v Speaker 1>my first trip to New York where I met my

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<v Speaker 1>friend Bob, and this is was not exterior architecture, but

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<v Speaker 1>this was that early to mid nineties UM sort of design,

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of space age bachelor pad design movement that's

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<v Speaker 1>called Populux. Yeah, and that's sort of akin to Googie.

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<v Speaker 1>And Bob had his stuff like that, and I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was so cool, and he told me about googie.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the first time I had heard that word

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<v Speaker 1>was in That's Hilarious. I heard the word the first time,

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<v Speaker 1>like this month. I think, well, really well, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>you don't. You don't hear it a lot, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think people that know it like to tell other people

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<v Speaker 1>and name it. And Bob was one of those people

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<v Speaker 1>because I remember when Google came along when I was

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<v Speaker 1>living in l A. And I was like, like the

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<v Speaker 1>architecture and everyone went, huh So, anyway, that's just a

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<v Speaker 1>long personal preamble. Uh should we define it? I like it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's define it, chuck, have at it, all right. So

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<v Speaker 1>this was this came about post World War two, and

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<v Speaker 1>I love how Livia put this. It was influenced by

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<v Speaker 1>the techno optimism of that era, which was the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, Hey, this is it was like Tomorrowland,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what the future is going to be like.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, they're just gonna have like cool shapes

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<v Speaker 1>and things are gonna look like rocket ships and cars

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<v Speaker 1>can have these big fins and look like spaceships. And

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<v Speaker 1>we love neon lights and we love these gentle pas stels.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was kind of a a populous movement and

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<v Speaker 1>that it wasn't like just meant for the rich. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't for the rich. And as a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the other big definitions of it is it

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<v Speaker 1>was a commercial movement. So like you didn't really see

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<v Speaker 1>anybody's house constructed in Googie, but you would see like

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<v Speaker 1>a dry cleaner or a bowling alley, or a coffee

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<v Speaker 1>shop that was a big one, or a diner. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So these were places that like any American could go

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<v Speaker 1>to and did. So it was it was really fun,

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<v Speaker 1>eye popping, bright colored space age design and architecture for

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<v Speaker 1>the everyday person. And that's definitely one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that made it so lovable. But it's also conversely one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that made like architecture critics and like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the legitimate I'm making square scare quotes architects

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<v Speaker 1>hate it because it was populist in nature. Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>UM it emerged in largely state in California. It did.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we'll talk about where it did branch out

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<v Speaker 1>here and there across the US, but it's really a

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<v Speaker 1>California thing and really a southern California thing, and California

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<v Speaker 1>at the time really UM did sort of represent the

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<v Speaker 1>future in a lot of ways. Post World War Two.

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<v Speaker 1>It was you know, it was the far West, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was I think a city where people moved to

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<v Speaker 1>from the East that saw possibilities in California, the land

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<v Speaker 1>of sunshine, the land of the future. And uh, the

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<v Speaker 1>the whole idea of this commercial part of it was

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<v Speaker 1>let's design, let's say a gas station that will really

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<v Speaker 1>stand out if you're it was a car culture, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>after World War Two, and let's design something that can

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<v Speaker 1>really be noticed when you're speeding down the highway. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a really big driving force for Googie. Like

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<v Speaker 1>if you, um, if you look at a Googie building,

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<v Speaker 1>you see it like a mile away or many miles

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<v Speaker 1>away because of the bright colors, because of the weird angles.

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<v Speaker 1>It really is designed to stand out from its surroundings.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of architecture is designed to um complement, blend,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of be seamless with its surroundings, whether that's nature

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<v Speaker 1>or existing buildings. Googie did not take that into account

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<v Speaker 1>at all and actually went the opposite way. And one

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<v Speaker 1>of the big reasons was because in California as a

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<v Speaker 1>car culture, to get people's attention as they're speeding past

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of have to use those design elements. And

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<v Speaker 1>that was that was basically why Googy came along. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mentioned the Jetsons and that wasn't just ingest uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a real thing. It was inspired by things

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<v Speaker 1>like the Jetsons. If you look at the original Hanna

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<v Speaker 1>Barbera studio building and on Kawanga and West Hollywood, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a Googie building. Uh. It was sort of Googie

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<v Speaker 1>meets Art Deco, which Googie has a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>its roots in Art Deco in some ways. And also

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I guess we should talk about some other

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<v Speaker 1>uh kinds of architecture that it sort of sprang from.

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<v Speaker 1>Art Deco was one and then one that is also

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<v Speaker 1>super cool. It's called streamline modern, and that is if

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<v Speaker 1>you look up any streamline modern building, you might think

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking at in an ocean liner or something. There

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<v Speaker 1>are no squared corners on these buildings. Like everything which

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<v Speaker 1>is also very Art Deco has these beautiful round did edges, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>which is really neat. There's also usually structures that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of suggest like an ocean liners, smoke stacks or something. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes they even put portholes in the buildings like There

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<v Speaker 1>was a Coca Cola bottling plant that was streamline modern

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<v Speaker 1>um in the thirties I think maybe forties in l A.

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<v Speaker 1>And it has straight up portholes on it, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>meant to look like a ship. And so this idea

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<v Speaker 1>that you could make something look like something else but

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<v Speaker 1>also look very elegant definitely kind of found formed part

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<v Speaker 1>of the foundation for googie architecture. It's very cool. Another

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<v Speaker 1>thing that influenced it is called programmatic or memetic architecture.

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<v Speaker 1>This is basically like how you would see it today

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<v Speaker 1>is if if you like see the hard Rock Hotel

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<v Speaker 1>in Florida, that it looks like a giant guitar um.

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<v Speaker 1>It is something that is very intentionally sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>a gimmick designed to look like something else and not

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<v Speaker 1>just like but that evokes an airplane. It's no, it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like an airplane or a giant hot dog or something. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Very frequently, especially with memetic um, it was like it

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<v Speaker 1>was the structure was the thing that it was selling.

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<v Speaker 1>So like you might have an orange juice stand and

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<v Speaker 1>like the building was a giant orange um yeah, or

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<v Speaker 1>the brown Oh, it's awesome. I saw pictures of an

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<v Speaker 1>abandoned one in Florida somewhere. I don't know where it is,

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<v Speaker 1>but it would be cool to go see um. And

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<v Speaker 1>then like the brown Derby, the very famous brown Derby

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<v Speaker 1>restaurant in l A. It's a brown Derby, a brown hat,

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<v Speaker 1>or like those donut shops that are like a giant donut.

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<v Speaker 1>That is all memetic architecture. And one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>that that gave rise to Googi is because that's what's

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<v Speaker 1>called a vulgar vernacular. It's the kind of thing that

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<v Speaker 1>you don't even need an architect to do. Like the

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<v Speaker 1>owner of the donut shop could could say, hey, construction guys,

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<v Speaker 1>I want this to be a donut building for me

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<v Speaker 1>out of whatever you want to build it out of,

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<v Speaker 1>and you didn't need an architect at all, And that

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<v Speaker 1>was a big thing that kind of It was also

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<v Speaker 1>populous in that respect as well. Yeah, and Googie that

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<v Speaker 1>was away scale back version of that though, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely yeah, I mean it would evoke like a rocket ship.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it was a straight up rocket ship, then

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<v Speaker 1>that I think it became a medic right. Yeah, definitely

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<v Speaker 1>transgressing across that line for sure. One of the first

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<v Speaker 1>Googie Buildings is from nine, which would have put it

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<v Speaker 1>really on the leading edge of that whole movement um

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<v Speaker 1>and it's still there. It's it's a great place, like

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<v Speaker 1>l A is a really great place to drive around

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<v Speaker 1>and see some of this stuff. It made me miss

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<v Speaker 1>living there a lot because I would go to some

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<v Speaker 1>of these places and see some of these places on

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<v Speaker 1>a daily basis. But Bob's a Big Boy in Burbank

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<v Speaker 1>in ninety nine designed by Wayne McAllister, who will pop

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<v Speaker 1>up a couple of times in this episode. Uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>he built the l Rancho in Las Vegas and Bob's

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<v Speaker 1>Big Boy in Burbank, which is it's it's really known

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<v Speaker 1>for its thirty five ft high sign of depicting Bob himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that who it's supposed to be in the red

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<v Speaker 1>and white checkered overalls. Yeah, there's some connection to Shownees

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<v Speaker 1>and I never really looked it up, but it's like

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<v Speaker 1>Showny's Big Boy. That may have just been the franchise

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<v Speaker 1>name or something. I think so, because in Ohio it

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<v Speaker 1>was fresh as Big Boy and they all used the

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<v Speaker 1>same the same big Boy. Yeah, and it was you

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<v Speaker 1>let's be That's who I aspired to be as a child,

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<v Speaker 1>get out your overalls. Uh So, Bob's Big Boy is

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<v Speaker 1>a landmark. Literally. The California Office of Historic Preservation declared

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<v Speaker 1>it an official historic landmark because they wanted to, of

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<v Speaker 1>course tear it down, which sadly happened to so many

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<v Speaker 1>great Googie and other buildings. Yeah, but not Bob's Big

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<v Speaker 1>Boy in Burbank, which is a lot of bees. And

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<v Speaker 1>the reason the reason why it's considered the first Googie

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<v Speaker 1>building is one it was from, but it follows so

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<v Speaker 1>much of the Googie aesthetic. Like you said, a thirty

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<v Speaker 1>five ft sign, as attention grabbing as possible, with flashing lights,

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<v Speaker 1>neon lights, um with giant letters. Usually the building is

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<v Speaker 1>one story, I believe. With Bob's Big Boy, the roof

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<v Speaker 1>kind of swoops in different different directions or um they

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<v Speaker 1>it will go up and then down like in a zigzag.

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<v Speaker 1>It just the roofs do weird things in a in

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<v Speaker 1>a Googy structure. And there's a bunch of other things too,

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<v Speaker 1>like sweeping arches or parabolas, like the original McDonald's had

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<v Speaker 1>two parabolas on either side. There was the original golden

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<v Speaker 1>arches I think in in Downey, California. Yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 1>very googy uh inspired, although I think it was even

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<v Speaker 1>earlier than than some of these other buildings. I think, uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get to that one. I think it's right all right, sure, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, roofs can be candelevered up, swept, they

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<v Speaker 1>can look like curved themselves. They're usually outlined in lights,

0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:54.680
<v Speaker 1>flashing lights, neon lights. Sometimes it looks kind of spacey,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, not exactly a rocket ship, but suggested

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Um, geometric shape shapes that that suggest motion,

0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:06.800
<v Speaker 1>like boomerang shapes and starbursts. That's huge too. Um. The

0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.880
<v Speaker 1>fonts that they use are really exaggerated and big and

0:13:10.120 --> 0:13:14.800
<v Speaker 1>attention grabbing. And um again the signage really really high,

0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:19.600
<v Speaker 1>really really gaudy, like sometimes many many times taller than

0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:22.960
<v Speaker 1>the building structure itself. Yeah. So many of the roof

0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Googy roof lines really do seem to defy gravity. And

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<v Speaker 1>that was kind of one of the points, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>was to to make people wonder how they built it.

0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:34.040
<v Speaker 1>And there are buildings in l A And we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about that gas station in Beverly Hills that

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<v Speaker 1>um for back then. You know, now they have such

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<v Speaker 1>lighter and stronger materials but you know, you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>building these things a lot of concrete in the nineteen fifties, uh,

0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:50.040
<v Speaker 1>and some of these roofs that just swoop up and

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<v Speaker 1>extend to this tiny point, you know, fifty ft above

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<v Speaker 1>the ground, and you're just wondering how in the world

0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:58.840
<v Speaker 1>today accomplished this back then, Yeah, that was They just

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<v Speaker 1>say it's good. That's right. Should we take a break, Yeah,

0:14:03.880 --> 0:14:05.960
<v Speaker 1>let's take a break. All right, we'll be right back

0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:37.920
<v Speaker 1>with more. So what's googie anyway? Where they get that name? Oh? Actually,

0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:41.600
<v Speaker 1>it's named after a specific U cafe that was built

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<v Speaker 1>the same year as Bob's Big Boy. It's also sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>considered the first googie uh structure. And the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>is because the cafe was named Googies. The owner, Mortimer Burton,

0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:57.280
<v Speaker 1>named it after his wife, whose family nickname was Googie Um.

0:14:57.320 --> 0:15:00.800
<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't like he said, hey, create a whole

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<v Speaker 1>new architecture, John Lawtner, and we're going to name it

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<v Speaker 1>after my wife. He had no saying that. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just that this Googi's Um coffee shop was a really

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<v Speaker 1>good early example of this new kind of architecture that

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<v Speaker 1>was starting to spread in southern California. Yeah. And John

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<v Speaker 1>Lawtner is one of my favorite architects of all time. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a protege of Frank Lloyd Wright. Uh. He

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<v Speaker 1>did most of his work in the south Land there

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<v Speaker 1>in southern California. Uh. And because the you know, the

0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:31.680
<v Speaker 1>weather is so great there and the sun is always

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<v Speaker 1>shining and all the things that people hate about l

0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:36.440
<v Speaker 1>A that don't live in l A. UM, you can

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<v Speaker 1>really do big inside out floor plans where the outside

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<v Speaker 1>is brought in and you've got you can have huge

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<v Speaker 1>pieces of glass and expose would and it just everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Weather is so much better out there, So you're really

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<v Speaker 1>freed up as an architect to do things when you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to worry about terrential downpours of rain for

0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:59.360
<v Speaker 1>many many days of the year and things like that. Uh.

0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:02.360
<v Speaker 1>And he has built um some some of the great

0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.440
<v Speaker 1>houses in l A, some of the great modern homes. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>One which I actually is one of my least favorite

0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:09.840
<v Speaker 1>of his, but maybe the most well known, is the

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<v Speaker 1>Chemis Sphere House. It's a little too much for me,

0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:17.840
<v Speaker 1>but I get but I get it. It looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a spaceship. It's a favorite. It's like it's almost like

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<v Speaker 1>if Um the eye piece that LeVar Burton wore and

0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Star Trek the next generation was turned into a house

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<v Speaker 1>and then thrust into the side of a hill cliff,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be the Chemo spherehouse. Um, my favorite is

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<v Speaker 1>was made very famous. It's a famous house on its

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<v Speaker 1>own if you're in architecture. But I was made famous

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<v Speaker 1>in The Big Lebowski, which is the Sheets Goldstein House,

0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:49.240
<v Speaker 1>which was Jackie Treehorn's house. So when I started looking

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<v Speaker 1>at um, I think I just said chemosphere and that's

0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:54.600
<v Speaker 1>way different the Chemis spherehouse pictures. I was I was

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<v Speaker 1>wondering if it was that house, and I was like,

0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't quite think it is. But it's not surprised

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<v Speaker 1>in to me that that was from the same architect. Yeah,

0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:04.600
<v Speaker 1>it's a lot in her house. So just if you

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<v Speaker 1>have time in your indo architecture, just go check out

0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:09.360
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of lot in your homes. They're amazing. So

0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:12.240
<v Speaker 1>he is a really great architect, and like you said,

0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.520
<v Speaker 1>he was a protege of Frank Lloyd Wright. That in

0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:18.280
<v Speaker 1>and of itself automatically made him a serious architect in

0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:22.040
<v Speaker 1>the architecture world. But he was kind of into Googie

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<v Speaker 1>as well. He designed that first Googi's Cafe or Googi's

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<v Speaker 1>Coffee shop in the Googy style, and so it was

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<v Speaker 1>a criticism of that work of Lautner Googi's Coffee Shop.

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<v Speaker 1>That guy named Douglas Haskell, who was an architecture critic,

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<v Speaker 1>wrote wrote an architect or wrote wrote an article in

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<v Speaker 1>ninety two just like really dripping lee satirical article. UM,

0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:47.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of the one of those things where you just

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<v Speaker 1>talk about how great something is, but you're you're discrediting

0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.840
<v Speaker 1>the narrator. So anything they're saying, like all these all

0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:58.159
<v Speaker 1>this praises actually you know, um veiled criticism or poorly

0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:00.879
<v Speaker 1>veiled criticism. And he was the one who coined the

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<v Speaker 1>term Googy to describe the architecture, naming it after that restaurant.

0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:09.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly. UM, I mean it might as well just

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<v Speaker 1>say every tenth word in parentheses, I roll right exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>because he did the very cowardly thing, which is made

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<v Speaker 1>a fictational character up to explain what Googie. This ficational

0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:28.119
<v Speaker 1>character in this article was Professor Thrug and it was

0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:33.119
<v Speaker 1>just it was just dripping with cynicism. Um, you know

0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:35.520
<v Speaker 1>that he was he was talking about or rather, excuse

0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:41.080
<v Speaker 1>me thrug. The character was talking about um some of

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<v Speaker 1>the well, let me just read this bit was saying

0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:47.360
<v Speaker 1>that um Googi should look both organic and be abstract,

0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:52.120
<v Speaker 1>featuring abstract mushrooms or a geometric bird, or even better,

0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:57.119
<v Speaker 1>an abstract mushroom surmounted by an abstract bird. It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hilarious. But one thing he did say is he

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<v Speaker 1>says that the roof of Googie starts off Googies itself,

0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:08.440
<v Speaker 1>starts on the level like any other building, but suddenly

0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:11.359
<v Speaker 1>it breaks for the sky. And he wasn't kidding, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you look up um Googie's uh, the Googies coffee

0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:19.840
<v Speaker 1>shop on one side of it, the the entire building,

0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:23.000
<v Speaker 1>not just the roof, but the entire building goes up

0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:25.959
<v Speaker 1>at an angle like it's on a hinge, and the

0:19:26.000 --> 0:19:29.359
<v Speaker 1>whole that whole side of the building is is angled

0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:31.320
<v Speaker 1>like it's gone up. It's nuts. It's the only way

0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:34.920
<v Speaker 1>you can say it. And so he's he's critical of that, um,

0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:39.359
<v Speaker 1>but that really weird gravity defying roof and in fact,

0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:43.200
<v Speaker 1>gravity defying building that became like a trademark part of

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<v Speaker 1>of Googie. And what's funny is his Lautner was considered

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<v Speaker 1>serious enough that on the next page, after Douglas Haskell's

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<v Speaker 1>scathing criticism in in the nine article of House and

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<v Speaker 1>Home is a profile of Lautner in his work because

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<v Speaker 1>he's a serious architect and everybody knew it. Yeah, I mean,

0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:03.720
<v Speaker 1>that's sort of the trick of this thing is. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure the tongue was in cheek and maybe Haskell was

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to have a little bit of fun and

0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking it too seriously. Uh, well, it was an

0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:14.600
<v Speaker 1>obnoxious thing to do. First it was. It was pretty obnoxious.

0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:18.280
<v Speaker 1>But the takeaway is that they wrote about it, and um,

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<v Speaker 1>they could have continued to ignore it, but they even

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<v Speaker 1>said that, um though House and Homes editors would prefer

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<v Speaker 1>to not go nearly so far as Lawtner does, they

0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:32.160
<v Speaker 1>believe that serious designer Lawtner should no longer be officially ignored.

0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:35.440
<v Speaker 1>So you know, we we'll recognize you by making fun

0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:37.600
<v Speaker 1>of it. It's like House and Home were like the

0:20:37.640 --> 0:20:41.680
<v Speaker 1>head of a high school click or something, right exactly, So,

0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:44.919
<v Speaker 1>Lawtner's very much associated with Googie, but he was not

0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:48.040
<v Speaker 1>the only one. And what's what's also what also makes

0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Googie so populist is that it was decentralized. There were

0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:55.760
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of different people working in south southern California

0:20:56.280 --> 0:20:58.359
<v Speaker 1>trying to do the same aime, which was get as

0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:03.359
<v Speaker 1>many eyeballs onto their customers building to bring that many

0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:06.399
<v Speaker 1>more people into the customer's business. Because again, it's a

0:21:06.400 --> 0:21:10.680
<v Speaker 1>commercial architecture movement, and it was totally decentralized, and anybody

0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:14.680
<v Speaker 1>could push whatever envelope they wanted to. Anything really went. Yeah,

0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:18.240
<v Speaker 1>the Googie almost had Gookie Houser the Googie. The Googie

0:21:18.240 --> 0:21:21.119
<v Speaker 1>house movement was much more limited. Uh, it just it

0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:22.760
<v Speaker 1>doesn't you know, it's kind of cool, but it doesn't

0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:26.600
<v Speaker 1>fit houses as much as it fits like a bowling alley, Yeah,

0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:30.160
<v Speaker 1>or even like a dry cleaner, like anything. You could

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<v Speaker 1>just be like, give me one of those buildings. Yeah. Uh.

0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:37.040
<v Speaker 1>So there was an architectural firm that was hugely responsible

0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:39.600
<v Speaker 1>for building a lot of these buildings or designing a

0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:41.800
<v Speaker 1>lot of them. Uh. And it was our Mette and

0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Davis Open Inn by Eldon Davison, I guess Louis are

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<v Speaker 1>met and they basically saw a big opportunity in the

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<v Speaker 1>commercial sector. I think they were industrial designers initially, and

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<v Speaker 1>they started getting hired to build these buildings and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of one of the really cool parts of their story is, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they hired a junior drafts person named Helen Lou Fong,

0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:11.960
<v Speaker 1>and this was someone who graduated with a degree in

0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:15.880
<v Speaker 1>city planning from Berkeley but could only get work as

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<v Speaker 1>a secretary because she was an Asian woman. And Armatt

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<v Speaker 1>and Davis gave Helen Fong a chance um as a

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<v Speaker 1>junior drafts person, and she ended up being kind of

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<v Speaker 1>one of the sort of central UH influencers. And I

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<v Speaker 1>used that in the old school use of the term

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<v Speaker 1>um of that movement. Yeah, I thought that was really

0:22:38.359 --> 0:22:40.960
<v Speaker 1>cool that they did that too. UM. So one of

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<v Speaker 1>the first things they in Leash drawn was the Clock

0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:47.160
<v Speaker 1>restaurant in Westchester, which is there's not that many images

0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:50.080
<v Speaker 1>of it, um, but yeah, so if you can, if

0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:52.000
<v Speaker 1>you can find it, it's pretty cool. Like I saw

0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:56.560
<v Speaker 1>an original sketch that I guess Helen Fong must have done, um,

0:22:56.640 --> 0:22:59.560
<v Speaker 1>and it's just all sorts of angles in one triangle

0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:02.679
<v Speaker 1>jutting out of another triangle, and it's it's just a

0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:05.439
<v Speaker 1>really neat building, Like I can only imagine being like

0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:09.320
<v Speaker 1>a junior architect and and them saying like, go go

0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:12.200
<v Speaker 1>nuts like do whatever you want and they're done. I

0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:15.440
<v Speaker 1>love it. Um so she she that was her first one.

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<v Speaker 1>Her next one, in the most famous one was Pans

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<v Speaker 1>Coffee Shop on La ta Hera. Am I saying that

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<v Speaker 1>right Latierra La Tierrah. I got all fancy um in

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<v Speaker 1>in l a obviously, Yeah, And that's probably not the

0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:32.119
<v Speaker 1>technical way to pronounce it, but that's how everyone says it.

0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:34.240
<v Speaker 1>I think, No, it's I mean, I get it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a prest script no descriptionist. Uh. It was built

0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:42.399
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen had as again one of those dramatically angled

0:23:42.440 --> 0:23:47.480
<v Speaker 1>roofs uses a lot of neon and flagstone was a

0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:49.720
<v Speaker 1>big deal with coffee shops, or a lot of flagstone

0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:52.719
<v Speaker 1>walls at coffee shops back then, big plate glass windows

0:23:52.720 --> 0:23:55.080
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of these coffee shops. Uh. And they

0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:57.760
<v Speaker 1>described it as a place where George Jetson and Fred

0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:00.680
<v Speaker 1>Flintstone could meet over a cup of coffee. Yeah, because

0:24:00.720 --> 0:24:04.399
<v Speaker 1>you're using flagstone amidst like four micah and like boomerang

0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:07.679
<v Speaker 1>and in space imagery. That was a quote from a

0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:12.000
<v Speaker 1>guy named Alan Hess who's an architecture historian who literally

0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:15.080
<v Speaker 1>wrote the book not once but twice on googie and

0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:19.879
<v Speaker 1>actually kicked off a googie preservation movement in the late eighties. Actually,

0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:23.560
<v Speaker 1>as we'll see, hooray for Hess, right, that's right up

0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:26.560
<v Speaker 1>with hess uh. They and we you know, we talked

0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:28.959
<v Speaker 1>a lot about coffee shops. It was actually kind of

0:24:29.040 --> 0:24:32.440
<v Speaker 1>also called coffee shop modern because there were so many

0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:36.159
<v Speaker 1>of them. Are Met and Davis and Fong built or

0:24:36.200 --> 0:24:40.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, designed more than four thousand of these coffee shops. Right,

0:24:40.560 --> 0:24:43.359
<v Speaker 1>that's crazy, that's like all the coffee shops. What's funny

0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:45.760
<v Speaker 1>is if you um there was a an oh bit

0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:48.440
<v Speaker 1>of Davis. I can't remember when he died, but he

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:51.440
<v Speaker 1>he died a very old man. Um and he had

0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:53.520
<v Speaker 1>said that he didn't really see much of a reason

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:57.560
<v Speaker 1>to preserve these these buildings, which I think is a

0:24:57.640 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 1>little a little modest because people are saying like these

0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:05.040
<v Speaker 1>are masterpieces, like they it's just that the architectural world

0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:08.560
<v Speaker 1>didn't appreciate them. But they're great buildings and people are

0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:11.840
<v Speaker 1>destroying them. And the reason why is because, as as

0:25:11.920 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 1>Davis pointed out, these are commercial buildings. And I saw

0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:19.840
<v Speaker 1>someone describe commercial buildings as probably the architecture that's under

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 1>the most pressure to reinvent and reshape itself to keep

0:25:24.640 --> 0:25:27.320
<v Speaker 1>up with the times. Like, you can't be sentimental with

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:30.160
<v Speaker 1>your commercial building. If Googie is out and it went

0:25:30.160 --> 0:25:33.080
<v Speaker 1>out fairly quick, you gotta scrap it and start over

0:25:33.119 --> 0:25:35.720
<v Speaker 1>and update, or else you're gonna people are gonna think

0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 1>your building, your business is behind and behind the times

0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:41.280
<v Speaker 1>and out of touch, and you just can't let that happen,

0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:43.719
<v Speaker 1>or else you're gonna lose out on business. So he

0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:45.920
<v Speaker 1>was saying, like, there's you know it was they were

0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:48.080
<v Speaker 1>commercial buildings, Like what what do you want? Of course

0:25:48.080 --> 0:25:49.720
<v Speaker 1>people are going to tear them down and replace them

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:51.800
<v Speaker 1>with something else. Yeah, I never really thought about that.

0:25:51.800 --> 0:25:55.119
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting because unless you do something really revolutionary and

0:25:55.160 --> 0:26:00.639
<v Speaker 1>you you have a you know, Netflix show about your house, Um,

0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:03.040
<v Speaker 1>you can go out in two and say I want

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:05.480
<v Speaker 1>to build a colonial and no one will be like really,

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean it may not be your particular style, but

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 1>they still build colonial houses and craftsman's and all kinds

0:26:11.520 --> 0:26:13.760
<v Speaker 1>of houses from all sorts of eras. But I think

0:26:13.760 --> 0:26:17.040
<v Speaker 1>a commercial building that really makes a lot of sense,

0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Like you can't go out and build a commercial building

0:26:19.840 --> 0:26:23.239
<v Speaker 1>that looks thirty years old. You might can go out

0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:25.080
<v Speaker 1>and build something it looks like fifty years old, if

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:28.119
<v Speaker 1>it's some kind of cool retro thing. But you can't

0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:31.240
<v Speaker 1>be anywhere in Besween and build something that looks dated.

0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, no, you can't. It can be classic, but

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:36.399
<v Speaker 1>it can't be dated. I think that's the fatal flaws

0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:40.399
<v Speaker 1>dated and and Googy dated itself very quickly, as we'll see.

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:44.160
<v Speaker 1>That's right. And then there was Norms too. We mentioned Norms.

0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 1>That was another Hell and Fong classic too, which is

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:51.280
<v Speaker 1>just like a great example of Googy architecture. I think

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:54.359
<v Speaker 1>Norms is still there too. Yes, I believe it was

0:26:54.440 --> 0:26:58.720
<v Speaker 1>also designated a Historic and Cultural Monument by the l

0:26:58.760 --> 0:27:01.360
<v Speaker 1>A City Council. Was it was going to go under

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>the wrecking ball, and they stepped in and said, nope,

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:05.800
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to tear down this norm So it

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:08.199
<v Speaker 1>is still there and it is an awesome building. It's

0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:10.920
<v Speaker 1>great on Los Angego right there in Hollywood, like a

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:13.959
<v Speaker 1>lot of these buildings are. Uh the Holiday Bowl, this

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:16.879
<v Speaker 1>was a really special story. There's a bowling alley on

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Crenshaw Boulevard in Crenshaw in Los Angeles, and uh Fong

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:24.880
<v Speaker 1>designed the interior and there was a bar and they're

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 1>called Sebeka. Sorry, I bet it was hopping Man. Um.

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 1>The cool thing about this area at the time was

0:27:33.560 --> 0:27:35.919
<v Speaker 1>it it was one of the only integrated parts of

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles. The local high school literally had one third

0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>African American, one third Asian American, and one third white kids. Yeah,

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:48.479
<v Speaker 1>and that was what made the Holiday Bowls so special,

0:27:48.520 --> 0:27:51.520
<v Speaker 1>as you had these different cultures and groups of people

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 1>getting together where they didn't do so in most parts

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:57.880
<v Speaker 1>of Los Angeles at the time. Uh. And they had

0:27:58.000 --> 0:27:59.880
<v Speaker 1>not only were they bowling, but there was a cough

0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>shop on the premises. And when we keep saying coffee shop,

0:28:03.080 --> 0:28:05.520
<v Speaker 1>these were coffee shop like the pulp fiction they were.

0:28:05.560 --> 0:28:08.040
<v Speaker 1>They're like diners basically. Yeah. I saw that they were

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:11.440
<v Speaker 1>a step up from diners, but not you know, as

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:17.160
<v Speaker 1>as nice as like a regular restaurant. Yeah. Yeah, that's

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 1>that's a good way to put it. But at the

0:28:19.400 --> 0:28:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Holiday Bowl Diner, I'm sorry, the Holiday Bowl coffee shop. Uh,

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 1>they had all kinds of food. They had oudon, they

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 1>had grits in southern uh, like soul food. They had

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:34.960
<v Speaker 1>straight up burgers and fries. I read an article where

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:37.200
<v Speaker 1>people were saying like this was you know, the first

0:28:37.200 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 1>time they ever had sushi in their life, and this

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 1>was in the nineties, fifties and early sixties, which was crazy.

0:28:43.120 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Um or. I don't know if they had sushi that early,

0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 1>but at least at some point they did. Uh. It

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:50.800
<v Speaker 1>was seven place where people could go hang out. They

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 1>could drink at the Bowling Alley, go to this coffee

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:56.680
<v Speaker 1>shop after uh. And it was actually protected during the

0:28:56.800 --> 0:29:00.560
<v Speaker 1>La Riots and two like residents of Crenshaw lined outside

0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 1>of the holiday bowl so people wouldn't touch it. So um.

0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:06.520
<v Speaker 1>I saw that it was demolished, but I also saw

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 1>a picture from three years after it was supposedly demolished,

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:13.480
<v Speaker 1>and it was still there. But the coffee shop is

0:29:13.520 --> 0:29:16.360
<v Speaker 1>now a Starbucks and the Bowling Alley is now a Walgreens.

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 1>It looks like yeah, So what they did was they

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 1>did destroy the actual Bowling Alley part and rebuilt it

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 1>as a Walgreens, but that exterior coffee shop facade is

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:30.640
<v Speaker 1>still attached and it is a Starbucks. Yeah, but it's

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:34.240
<v Speaker 1>still googy. Yeah. It looks cool. So um. There were

0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:36.920
<v Speaker 1>some other ones we mentioned. The original or one of

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 1>the earliest McDonald's from Downey, California nine I think right,

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 1>low building parable is on either side. Yeah. And that McDonald's,

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 1>like you mentioned, is in Downey and we talked about

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>it in the McDonald's episode Taco Bell one too. I think,

0:29:54.320 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 1>oh really, okay, I thought you were making a joke. No, no,

0:29:57.840 --> 0:30:01.600
<v Speaker 1>for real, the Taco episode we talked about Taco Bell

0:30:01.680 --> 0:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>and like, there are a bunch of ones from Downey, California.

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:09.120
<v Speaker 1>But it's an amazing looking restaurant and it's got a

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 1>it's got a really cool little museum, McDonald's Museum next door,

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:15.120
<v Speaker 1>so you can still walk up. It's a it's just

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 1>a sort of counter not counter. I guess it is

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 1>counter service, but you can't go in. You know, what

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:22.479
<v Speaker 1>do you call those? A walk out, a walk up

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 1>take out? Sure, any of those? I think someone said

0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:28.480
<v Speaker 1>they built a finally built a drive through, but I

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 1>don't think you can dine in. Still boy, they I

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:34.920
<v Speaker 1>guess they're the first McDonald's to have a drive through. Then, No,

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I think more recently built a drive No, it's just teasing, okay.

0:30:38.840 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 1>One of the other things you mentioned, the Holiday Bowl

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:44.080
<v Speaker 1>and bowling alleys, were just like begging to be made

0:30:44.120 --> 0:30:48.160
<v Speaker 1>into googie structures. And another good example is the Covina

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Bowl in Covina, California, which I guess is around Los Angeles,

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 1>and um, it is, it still remains, It's still there.

0:30:56.520 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 1>It's up for grabs exactly what's going to happen to it. Um.

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:05.000
<v Speaker 1>But they're they're in talks to somehow preserve some of

0:31:05.040 --> 0:31:08.560
<v Speaker 1>the facade or structure or sign or something as they

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 1>redevelop it, I think into condos. But it was divine

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:15.719
<v Speaker 1>designed by a firm that created fifty bowling alleys throughout

0:31:15.880 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>California in the seven years between nine and sixty two.

0:31:20.440 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 1>And I mean, I think, actually this is what gave

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>me the idea for this episode, Chuck, because I was

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:29.560
<v Speaker 1>looking at old bowling alleys bowling yeah, and I came

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:32.840
<v Speaker 1>across the term googie um, because I was like, this

0:31:32.880 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 1>is just such a cool looking bowling alley, and sure

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:37.400
<v Speaker 1>enough it was googy And it just led to one

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 1>thing led to another, and here we are, well that

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:45.000
<v Speaker 1>Hollywood Star Lanes where the big Lebowskio shot was very googy. Uh.

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>And I was just meant to mention during the Latner segment. Uh,

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:53.400
<v Speaker 1>I saw that they just a few years ago one

0:31:53.440 --> 0:31:56.560
<v Speaker 1>of the Latner homes was up for sale, which is

0:31:56.600 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 1>a rarity in and of itself, but it was, and

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:02.200
<v Speaker 1>I say, only two and a half million bucks. That's

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of money for a house, to be sure,

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 1>But I just thought with l a southern California real

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 1>estate anyway, and it's this historic building and an historic

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:16.239
<v Speaker 1>architect and it's amazing. I thought it would be like

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 1>twelve million bucks. Yeah, you definitely think that, So, yeah,

0:32:19.840 --> 0:32:22.200
<v Speaker 1>it was. I was very surprised. I mean it seemed

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:24.160
<v Speaker 1>like a steel I didn't have I didn't have the

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 1>cash on me, but it looked pretty amazing. And we

0:32:27.960 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 1>should mention the ship's coffee shops as well, right, those

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 1>the little tiny three coffee shop chain. Yeah, um, they

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 1>were kind of boomerang shaped from what I could tell.

0:32:38.320 --> 0:32:41.880
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't see like a really good picture of those guys,

0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:44.440
<v Speaker 1>but I thought what was kind of cute is apparently

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:48.280
<v Speaker 1>every every location had a toaster on every table. Best

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>idea of all time, except for the liability. Probably the liability,

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:53.800
<v Speaker 1>but also like every once in a while there's a

0:32:53.840 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 1>crank that would come in and be like, well I

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 1>want to discount since I have to toast it myself. Man,

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Because I can think of at that means that there's

0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 1>a possibility I might have been that guy. Just I

0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 1>want to make my own toast and restaurants more than anything.

0:33:08.280 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>It does seem like a good idea, for sure. It's

0:33:10.440 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 1>a very specific thing how people like their toasts made.

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:16.160
<v Speaker 1>So I love that idea. But hats off the ships

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 1>for that one other one too. That's kind of an

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:22.720
<v Speaker 1>icon of googie you mentioned before, that Gulf seventies six station.

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Um that's in Beverly Hills. Uh. And it apparently the

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 1>design of it, not the Gulf station itself, but the

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:33.640
<v Speaker 1>design of this roof. It's um been likened to a

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 1>flying carpet and it really kind of looks like when

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 1>it's got some of the most amazing curves I've ever

0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:43.880
<v Speaker 1>seen that just don't make any sense whatsoever for a roof,

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 1>but it really looks cool. Um. And once you understand

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 1>that it was supposed to be part of the l

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:53.520
<v Speaker 1>a X Airport, and then you're like, okay, that makes sense.

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:56.120
<v Speaker 1>But apparently it got cut out the design. But the

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:58.920
<v Speaker 1>designer Jin Wong was like, this is too cool to

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:01.880
<v Speaker 1>just not do. Just turn it into a gas station instead.

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 1>I've gotten gas there. Every I mean I wasn't in

0:34:04.320 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Beverly Hills much, but I tried to get gas there

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:10.719
<v Speaker 1>when I could. It's at Crescent Drive and Little Santa

0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 1>Monica Bolivard in Beverly Hills, and it is a very

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 1>very cool gas station. I shot at one of these

0:34:18.080 --> 0:34:22.279
<v Speaker 1>out in the desert, which I guess leads no, no,

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:25.200
<v Speaker 1>no, no no no. We we shot a TV commercial at

0:34:24.440 --> 0:34:28.560
<v Speaker 1>one roadside gas stations, like a Root sixty six type

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 1>of deal out in the middle of nowhere. That looking

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:34.759
<v Speaker 1>back was super googie um. And that leads us to

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:37.120
<v Speaker 1>a break, because we're gonna come back and talk about

0:34:37.120 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 1>the desert and Las Vegas. Okay, Chuck, you set us

0:35:09.280 --> 0:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>up maybe better than we've ever been set up before.

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:15.040
<v Speaker 1>And if you've been sitting here listening to us describe

0:35:15.080 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Googie architecture, even going and looking at some of the photos,

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 1>you might be like, man, this seems really Vegas to me.

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:23.280
<v Speaker 1>You would be right about that, because it got exported

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:26.000
<v Speaker 1>to Vegas pretty quick and took off like a rocket there,

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:29.840
<v Speaker 1>starting with the Sands Uh in nineteen fifty two. It

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:33.799
<v Speaker 1>was the first Googie esque structure there because before that

0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:37.799
<v Speaker 1>it was all like Bolero ties and wagon wheels and

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 1>then yeah, and then the Sands came along and said,

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:43.800
<v Speaker 1>you Hicks, we're gonna start something new where the mafia,

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 1>where the trend setting is Mafia of all time. We're

0:35:47.120 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna take you into the space age. Uh. And that

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Sands was I think you said, built in fifty two.

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:56.640
<v Speaker 1>And that brings back Mr Wayne McAlister into the picture,

0:35:57.000 --> 0:36:00.600
<v Speaker 1>who designed that Bob's Big Boy and her Bank just

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:03.480
<v Speaker 1>a few years before that. Uh. And you know, just

0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 1>look up any image of the old Sands casino sign

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:10.600
<v Speaker 1>and it had that egg carton grid was really tall.

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 1>It was like close to sixty ft in the air,

0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 1>very geometric shapes, and the script was super Googy as well.

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:21.360
<v Speaker 1>And I think Vegas took notice and said, you know,

0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who those mob guys are talking to,

0:36:23.840 --> 0:36:28.120
<v Speaker 1>but uh, they're onto something here. And Googy started popping

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:33.720
<v Speaker 1>up everywhere, including probably most famously in that iconic welcome

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 1>to Fabulous Las Vegas sign. Yeah, that is super Googy.

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean like if you if you're ever talking to

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:42.360
<v Speaker 1>somebody about a Googy design and they ask you what

0:36:42.400 --> 0:36:44.640
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about, to say, the like the designer the

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:48.480
<v Speaker 1>lass welcome to Las Vegas sign that's it's it's it's

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 1>hits basically every chord on that like big exaggerated fonts,

0:36:54.239 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 1>different kinds of fonts, they're starbursts, there's geometric shapes, there's

0:36:57.640 --> 0:37:01.239
<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of different colors. It's it's googie and

0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:05.480
<v Speaker 1>it's deepest soul it is. It's a great sign um.

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:08.160
<v Speaker 1>While I was looking all this stuff up, I was

0:37:08.239 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 1>in my head, I was like, wait, I feel like

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 1>they were old Howard Johnson's motels that were kind of googy.

0:37:16.160 --> 0:37:17.880
<v Speaker 1>And I looked and I looked, and I couldn't find any.

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:22.240
<v Speaker 1>And then finally I did, and sure enough, a handful

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 1>of those Hojo's from that era had these big, swoopy,

0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 1>pointy triangular roofs that went all the way down to

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:32.400
<v Speaker 1>the ground, kind of like an a frame and jutted

0:37:32.440 --> 0:37:35.320
<v Speaker 1>way out over the roadway. And uh, I knew I

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 1>had seen those in my past, but I don't. I

0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 1>don't think there's a lot of them. But it just

0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:42.719
<v Speaker 1>kind of goes to show where how Googi spread um

0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:46.759
<v Speaker 1>beyond California and Las Vegas. And we're gonna talk about

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:48.920
<v Speaker 1>a few more of those places. Yeah, I mean, there's different,

0:37:49.360 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 1>It just pops up in some random places, like apparently

0:37:52.040 --> 0:37:54.920
<v Speaker 1>the northwest side of Chicago was developed later than the

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:57.240
<v Speaker 1>rest of it, and it just so happened that googy

0:37:57.440 --> 0:38:02.279
<v Speaker 1>was having its heyday. So there's some random googie structures.

0:38:02.280 --> 0:38:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Trim and Tidy Cleaners. Uh, super Dog Pride Cleaners is

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 1>really cool looking. Um, I think it's I think that's

0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>the one that it looks like a It's a giant

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:16.239
<v Speaker 1>triangle with the points sticking out street word if I'm

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:19.799
<v Speaker 1>not mistaken. Um, it's it's really neat to see. And

0:38:19.840 --> 0:38:23.759
<v Speaker 1>then the Ohio House Motel is what's called it's like

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:28.799
<v Speaker 1>a subset of googie architecture called phony Cologne, like fox

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Colonial and that awesome of that term. You a funny coloni. Uh,

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be my latest, my newest insult. Um. The

0:38:40.760 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 1>wild Woods Resort area of New Jersey has a quite

0:38:45.200 --> 0:38:49.520
<v Speaker 1>a few googie kind of motels. They would say, uh,

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:53.000
<v Speaker 1>they would call it doo wop style because that's sort

0:38:53.040 --> 0:38:55.759
<v Speaker 1>of the nine fifties rock and roll seen there in

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:58.239
<v Speaker 1>the Jersey Shore at the time. But if you look

0:38:58.360 --> 0:39:00.880
<v Speaker 1>up what the Moray family m O. R. E. Y

0:39:01.040 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 1>designed a number of those motels kind of near the

0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Jersey Shore seaside, and they're really cool looking. They're they're

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:11.399
<v Speaker 1>not quite as out there and space shippy, but they're

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:14.759
<v Speaker 1>definitely googie. Uh. And then there's a newer win I think,

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:18.359
<v Speaker 1>you know. Now people are building the occasional kind of

0:39:18.400 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 1>modern googie throwback look and the star Lux Hotel there

0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 1>is one pretty great example of that. Yeah. I found

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:30.480
<v Speaker 1>a really great website called Modernist Architecture and they have

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:34.120
<v Speaker 1>a post from two thousand fifteen called Wildwood the East

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Coast Capital of Googi I mean doo wop, and it

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:42.440
<v Speaker 1>is a comprehensive photo spread of all these googie structures

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 1>in Wildwood on the Jersey Shore, and it just looks

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:49.400
<v Speaker 1>like an amazing place to wander around. But it's googie

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:51.279
<v Speaker 1>through and through. I saw that. I think in that

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:55.000
<v Speaker 1>blog they said that it's probably the densest concentration of

0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:58.160
<v Speaker 1>googie architecture left in the country. Yeah, and it kind

0:39:58.160 --> 0:40:01.239
<v Speaker 1>of fits those seasides to feel, I think, with the

0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 1>pastels and it just sort of all works together, I think. Yeah. Um.

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 1>There's also some in Phoenix and Tucson. Probably most famous

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:12.080
<v Speaker 1>in Phoenix is what used to be called the three

0:40:12.160 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 1>hundred bowl a bowling alley again and I read that

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:18.759
<v Speaker 1>no one is exactly sure who designed it um, what firm,

0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:21.239
<v Speaker 1>or what architect designed the three hunder Bull, but is

0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:25.160
<v Speaker 1>a classic example of of Googy architecture. UM. There's also

0:40:25.320 --> 0:40:28.759
<v Speaker 1>Paris Laundry and dry cleaning and the Rainbow car wash there.

0:40:29.000 --> 0:40:31.839
<v Speaker 1>It's pretty cool stuff. These episodes are fun because there's

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:34.600
<v Speaker 1>an know there's people all over the country that love

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:38.320
<v Speaker 1>their little buildings get shouted out in their towns totally.

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:42.480
<v Speaker 1>The Biff Burger Drive and Chain and clear Water this

0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:44.719
<v Speaker 1>was right in that sort of middle of that era

0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:48.959
<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen fifty six. Lots of Googy inspired stuff there.

0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:52.120
<v Speaker 1>And then there's a shopping center of the south Gate

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 1>Shopping Center in Lakeland, Florida, also mid to late fifties.

0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Another great example. Yeah, you gotta look up the Biff

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:02.359
<v Speaker 1>Burger Um, Like look up Biff Burger nineteen fifty six.

0:41:02.360 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 1>And one of the big Googie things they have is

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:08.799
<v Speaker 1>like they're signed, is like different like different geometric structures

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:10.799
<v Speaker 1>like separate from one another, and each one like holds

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 1>a letter or a little message or something. They're all

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:15.800
<v Speaker 1>really brightly colored. It's just really cool and neat looking

0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 1>and we mentioned that great. Yeah, those are great signs.

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:22.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at them now. Uh, that great bank. And

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:25.719
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of nowhere Georgia and Alma, Georgia, the

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:30.560
<v Speaker 1>Alma Exchange Bank, Uh, nineteen sixty six. You really need

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:33.319
<v Speaker 1>to look this one up and imagine this in um

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:38.759
<v Speaker 1>sort of rural southeastern Georgia between Atlanta and Jacksonville. It

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:42.280
<v Speaker 1>is really something else. Uh. And there's a cool place

0:41:42.760 --> 0:41:46.240
<v Speaker 1>right here, a newer place UM in the Centennial Olympic

0:41:46.280 --> 0:41:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Park in Atlanta called Googie Burger. And it's open about

0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 1>twelve years ago, in twenty and it's a really cool

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:56.360
<v Speaker 1>modern take on a googie style and it's it's awesome.

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know it was there. And then also

0:41:58.400 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 1>took one of the other things, you know, we've been

0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 1>talking about, things like dry cleaners and car washes and

0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:05.200
<v Speaker 1>bowling alleys like it. It appeared in some like legit

0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:09.920
<v Speaker 1>big structures like the theme building, the Iconic building at

0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:13.080
<v Speaker 1>l a X that looks like a War of the

0:42:13.080 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 1>World's UFO basically on stilts. Um. That is about as

0:42:18.040 --> 0:42:21.040
<v Speaker 1>googy as it gets. Um that when it's not like

0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:24.920
<v Speaker 1>a dry cleaners, that's super Googy Building. Yeah, that one,

0:42:25.080 --> 0:42:27.600
<v Speaker 1>um people probably you might have heard it called the

0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Encounter because it had a restaurant and bar called the

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Encounter in it, but it is called the Theme Building.

0:42:32.960 --> 0:42:35.200
<v Speaker 1>And it was there when I was there and open,

0:42:35.280 --> 0:42:36.839
<v Speaker 1>and you know, it was kind of a fun thing

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 1>to go and like grab a cocktail before you pick

0:42:39.640 --> 0:42:42.440
<v Speaker 1>someone up on an airport run and just kind of

0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:46.520
<v Speaker 1>like drinking that vibe for a half hour or so. Uh,

0:42:46.560 --> 0:42:52.440
<v Speaker 1>and then it closed in because there was always just

0:42:52.520 --> 0:42:57.320
<v Speaker 1>a it was right there by the airport, so usually

0:42:57.360 --> 0:43:01.359
<v Speaker 1>it was airport people, but like, youn't go early enough

0:43:01.400 --> 0:43:03.759
<v Speaker 1>if you were like flying somewhere just to go to

0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:06.920
<v Speaker 1>a restaurant outside the airport because it's not you know,

0:43:07.040 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 1>you can't check in and then go back out to

0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:12.839
<v Speaker 1>the Encounter and then going afterward. Like maybe I think

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:14.640
<v Speaker 1>once I might have picked someone up that had just

0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:16.799
<v Speaker 1>come into town who had never been to l A.

0:43:16.880 --> 0:43:18.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like, hey, the first thing we'll do is go

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:20.880
<v Speaker 1>to the Encounter. But it it was it was just

0:43:20.880 --> 0:43:23.160
<v Speaker 1>sort of had a problem of no one quite new

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:26.640
<v Speaker 1>whin to go, right because it was so tied to

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:28.880
<v Speaker 1>the airport. You didn't want to go there if you

0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:30.919
<v Speaker 1>had nothing to do with the airport because you didn't

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:33.719
<v Speaker 1>want to be in the airport traffic, which is notoriously

0:43:33.760 --> 0:43:36.360
<v Speaker 1>bad in l A. So it eventually kind of closed

0:43:36.360 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 1>down because of this problem in it's pretty sad. Yeah,

0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 1>it is a little sad, but it is super It

0:43:42.239 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 1>was a very inconvenient place for sure. What about Tomorrowland

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 1>that I mentioned Tomorrow and everybody, I don't want to

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:53.279
<v Speaker 1>say everybody, but almost everybody's been to either Tomorrowland at

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Disney World or Disneyland, and it's just like this retro

0:43:56.600 --> 0:44:00.360
<v Speaker 1>future googie architecture. It was at first, and I didn't

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 1>know this, but apparently it was originally meant to mimic

0:44:04.320 --> 0:44:06.279
<v Speaker 1>what what they thought it was gonna look like in

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighties. Six. Yeah, that funny what the people of

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:13.120
<v Speaker 1>nineteen six would look like. Yeah, And you know I

0:44:13.160 --> 0:44:15.640
<v Speaker 1>took I mentioned not too long ago, I took my

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:18.640
<v Speaker 1>first visit to Disney World since I was a kid recently,

0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:23.160
<v Speaker 1>and um, I was shocked how little things had changed

0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:26.239
<v Speaker 1>all throughout the park until I sort of stopped to

0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:28.560
<v Speaker 1>think about it. Because didn't Disney people like they don't

0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:32.359
<v Speaker 1>want anything different about that particular park. They They're fine

0:44:32.360 --> 0:44:34.880
<v Speaker 1>with like adding new things, but like, you don't go

0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:38.240
<v Speaker 1>in and change Tomorrowland and get rid of those creddy

0:44:38.520 --> 0:44:41.719
<v Speaker 1>race cars in favor of something better. You just leave

0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:45.040
<v Speaker 1>the people mover. You leave it alone. Yeah, and let's

0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:47.120
<v Speaker 1>the I agree with that. I think that they should

0:44:47.200 --> 0:44:49.960
<v Speaker 1>until it falls apart, until the people Mover like falls

0:44:49.960 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 1>off of the cable and kills a bunch of people. Well,

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I think his Disney largely deals in the business of nostalgia, definitely.

0:44:59.360 --> 0:45:03.799
<v Speaker 1>That's why John Hodgman hates that place. One another way,

0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:08.320
<v Speaker 1>the t w A Flight Center at jfk uh Aero

0:45:08.440 --> 0:45:14.000
<v Speaker 1>saran In designed it and it's amazing, so we don't

0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 1>need to say anything else about it. But it was

0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:19.839
<v Speaker 1>built in ninety two. Just go to the Curbed New

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:23.520
<v Speaker 1>York website and search for explore the t w A

0:45:23.760 --> 0:45:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Terminal um and it will it's this is amazing photo

0:45:27.719 --> 0:45:31.319
<v Speaker 1>spread from years back from a photographer named Max Twoey

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:35.799
<v Speaker 1>who was granted access to this abandoned but totally preserved

0:45:36.320 --> 0:45:41.680
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty two. UM Gooey like like terminal for t

0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:45.000
<v Speaker 1>w A. It's the most amazing thing you'll ever see.

0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:52.319
<v Speaker 1>It is a googy did I, well, the floor is

0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:55.919
<v Speaker 1>made of molasses. Well that that Isn't that the same

0:45:55.920 --> 0:45:57.759
<v Speaker 1>spot that they have now opened the new T D

0:45:58.120 --> 0:46:03.400
<v Speaker 1>T w A Hotel. Yes, because it was like perfectly preserved.

0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how they did it, but I think

0:46:04.960 --> 0:46:07.680
<v Speaker 1>somebody was like, this thing, we can't do anything with this.

0:46:07.760 --> 0:46:10.720
<v Speaker 1>It's just too amazing. We can't not mention the space

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Needle in Seattle probably their most favorite. I don't I

0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:15.839
<v Speaker 1>don't know what Seattle people think of it. I don't

0:46:15.840 --> 0:46:18.120
<v Speaker 1>know if they're tired of it or what. But it

0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:20.840
<v Speaker 1>is there, you know, kind of one of their iconic buildings.

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Just ask Fraser Grain. Uh, it's right there in the

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:27.320
<v Speaker 1>skyline and those opening credits. But it was built in

0:46:27.360 --> 0:46:31.760
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty one for their worldfare uh, and Seattle Hotel

0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:35.279
<v Speaker 1>executive named Edward E. Carlson gave it its iconic name,

0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:39.719
<v Speaker 1>and its chief engineer was a gentleman name John Menascian

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:46.680
<v Speaker 1>who actually worked for NASA and designed rocket gantries. Pretty cool. Yeah,

0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I think definitely legitimizes the space needle for sure. So

0:46:50.640 --> 0:46:53.200
<v Speaker 1>what happened to Googy? Well, like we said, it dated

0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:59.040
<v Speaker 1>itself and Googie came along technically in nine, but really

0:46:59.040 --> 0:47:02.719
<v Speaker 1>it started to take off in the mid fifties, say um,

0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:05.400
<v Speaker 1>And it was based on like like you're saying, techno

0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:09.120
<v Speaker 1>optimism of the post World War two economic boom um

0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:12.480
<v Speaker 1>and us getting to space and just trying new technology,

0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:15.839
<v Speaker 1>and we actually did all that stuff. Like those promises

0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:18.279
<v Speaker 1>of the future actually came true pretty quick, Like we

0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:21.040
<v Speaker 1>ended up on the moon in nineteen sixty nine, and

0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:23.879
<v Speaker 1>once we got there, humanity was like, we've been there,

0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:27.400
<v Speaker 1>We've done that, and like the whole that techno optimism

0:47:27.480 --> 0:47:31.440
<v Speaker 1>like kind of faded pretty quickly because it became every

0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:36.480
<v Speaker 1>day in commonplace, and since Googie was the architecture associated

0:47:36.520 --> 0:47:39.560
<v Speaker 1>with that that future that now would become everyday in commonplace,

0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:42.560
<v Speaker 1>it got dated. I think that's kind of sad but

0:47:42.600 --> 0:47:46.560
<v Speaker 1>also hysterical. Yeah, that like when people walked on the moon,

0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:49.200
<v Speaker 1>like that next week the dry cleaner sat down with

0:47:49.239 --> 0:47:51.440
<v Speaker 1>a designer to build their new dry cleaner. Was like

0:47:51.840 --> 0:47:53.000
<v Speaker 1>they were like, well, what do you want to do?

0:47:53.400 --> 0:47:55.719
<v Speaker 1>Just build me a dry cleaning Yeah, you know, he

0:47:55.840 --> 0:48:00.000
<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm ruined. We've been to the moon. Who cares.

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:02.120
<v Speaker 1>That's one of Glen clothes. I saw one of the

0:48:02.160 --> 0:48:06.759
<v Speaker 1>things that really signaled the death knell. Uh. Maybe not earliest,

0:48:06.840 --> 0:48:10.359
<v Speaker 1>but pretty early on was that McDonald's radically changed its

0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:16.160
<v Speaker 1>design from parabolas and up swept you know, angular roofs

0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:21.320
<v Speaker 1>to um houses like a brick house with a mansward roof. Um.

0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:25.759
<v Speaker 1>That that really iconic seventies and eighties McDonald look um

0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:29.680
<v Speaker 1>that the whole restaurant style was all the same. Yeah, yeah,

0:48:29.760 --> 0:48:31.600
<v Speaker 1>it was very close. Although I looked it up. Pizza

0:48:31.680 --> 0:48:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Hut's roof is different kind it's not a mansward roof

0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:38.840
<v Speaker 1>like camera, but but yes, it is very similar, and

0:48:38.840 --> 0:48:41.680
<v Speaker 1>it was meant to evoke home, which is totally different

0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:44.680
<v Speaker 1>from like a you know, a coffee shop that starts

0:48:44.719 --> 0:48:48.239
<v Speaker 1>taking up towards the taking off up towards the sky

0:48:48.320 --> 0:48:50.760
<v Speaker 1>like this. It was a different feel in a different vibe,

0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:54.840
<v Speaker 1>and it also tied into the ecology movement, right Yeah,

0:48:54.920 --> 0:48:58.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think, you know, uh, one might argue

0:48:58.680 --> 0:49:01.240
<v Speaker 1>that some of this gooogy stuff is can be wasteful

0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:05.640
<v Speaker 1>in terms of materials, um to build a roof that extends,

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, sixty feet to a point to the sky

0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:10.480
<v Speaker 1>when you just need a regular roof. Really, so I

0:49:10.520 --> 0:49:12.719
<v Speaker 1>think taste sort of we're tamed down a little bit.

0:49:13.360 --> 0:49:18.319
<v Speaker 1>Um using more uh sort of sensible materials I think

0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:22.319
<v Speaker 1>played a part, uh, going to the outer space played

0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:24.719
<v Speaker 1>apart all this stuff, and like you know, sort of

0:49:24.760 --> 0:49:28.360
<v Speaker 1>any thing that doesn't end up being a classic design,

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:31.920
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna come and go, especially one that's kind of

0:49:32.040 --> 0:49:34.600
<v Speaker 1>radical like this, So you know, it was bound to

0:49:34.600 --> 0:49:37.160
<v Speaker 1>have its moment and then leave and then be looked

0:49:37.400 --> 0:49:40.879
<v Speaker 1>back upon with fond eyes years later. Uh. And that's

0:49:40.880 --> 0:49:45.200
<v Speaker 1>what's happened largely sadly during you know, of course the eighties,

0:49:45.239 --> 0:49:47.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of these buildings in l A and the

0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:50.960
<v Speaker 1>South End were demolished. Um. But towards the end of

0:49:50.960 --> 0:49:54.400
<v Speaker 1>the eighties, UM, certainly with the publication of the eight

0:49:54.520 --> 0:49:59.040
<v Speaker 1>six book from Hess Googie Colon fifty Coffee Shop fifties

0:49:59.080 --> 0:50:03.160
<v Speaker 1>coffee shop arc texture that sort of helped um reignite

0:50:03.160 --> 0:50:06.359
<v Speaker 1>like an appreciation for these buildings in this architecture, and

0:50:06.400 --> 0:50:09.439
<v Speaker 1>more and more were protected that had not been demolished. Yeah,

0:50:09.520 --> 0:50:11.799
<v Speaker 1>and they're still being demolished. I saw that something like

0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:14.040
<v Speaker 1>a third of them are gone now already, which is

0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:17.600
<v Speaker 1>really high um as far as demolition goes for a

0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:20.880
<v Speaker 1>specific kind of architecture. But they are getting protected more

0:50:20.920 --> 0:50:23.759
<v Speaker 1>and more, which I think is good totally. I saw

0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:26.520
<v Speaker 1>one other thing that led to the demise of Googie. Um. So,

0:50:26.560 --> 0:50:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Googie design was meant to attract the eyes of southern

0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:33.160
<v Speaker 1>California drivers as they were passing by, so that they

0:50:33.200 --> 0:50:34.759
<v Speaker 1>would turn in and be like, yeah, I could go

0:50:34.800 --> 0:50:36.600
<v Speaker 1>for a cup of coffee and a piece of pie

0:50:36.680 --> 0:50:39.080
<v Speaker 1>right or I could get my shirt dry cleaned right now,

0:50:39.080 --> 0:50:41.880
<v Speaker 1>who knows. So that's what I was designed for. But

0:50:41.920 --> 0:50:46.839
<v Speaker 1>then in the highway acts started building highways rather than

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<v Speaker 1>surface streets, so people weren't on the surface streets anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were going way faster and they were going

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<v Speaker 1>faster than Googie architecture could catch their attention, and that

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<v Speaker 1>that was a big part of it too. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's uh, as evidence in our sixty six podcast

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<v Speaker 1>and to bring it for full circle that abandoned Googie

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<v Speaker 1>gas station on Route sixty six that we shot at,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll stopping there for gas. It was closed. Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what happens. The highway killed it. High we killed it. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you got anything else? I got nothing. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to know more about Googie architecture, just go spend some

0:51:22.680 --> 0:51:25.080
<v Speaker 1>time looking up googie buildings. It's a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just so colorful. And since I said they're colorful,

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for a listener mail. I'm gonna call this

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<v Speaker 1>what will It will be the first of two Appalachian

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<v Speaker 1>Trail emails. And by the way, I'm doing the Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>portion next spring. Oh nice, man, I'm doing it. Me

0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:48.640
<v Speaker 1>and my friend Eddie and my friend Clay have all

0:51:48.680 --> 0:51:51.040
<v Speaker 1>dedicated to do it. And so this is not only

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<v Speaker 1>a personal life goal that I had never accomplished, but

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<v Speaker 1>a personal fitness goal because I can't go out there

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<v Speaker 1>right now and do that in the shape and so

0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:04.840
<v Speaker 1>losing weight it's never worked, like, oh I got that

0:52:04.840 --> 0:52:06.680
<v Speaker 1>wedding this fall. I need to look good for like

0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:10.520
<v Speaker 1>that stuff never worked for me. But I can't do

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<v Speaker 1>this like and be successful without getting in shape, like

0:52:16.000 --> 0:52:18.319
<v Speaker 1>I will die on the side of a mountain. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>You really need to read into the Woods because one

0:52:22.000 --> 0:52:25.239
<v Speaker 1>of the characters is exactly in that same position. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a health goal and just a life goal,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna do it next March. You're going with

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie as in Eddie the fest Strangler, Eddie, Eddie, I

0:52:34.520 --> 0:52:37.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know if that's such a good idea. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>start in North Carolina at the border and go sobo

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<v Speaker 1>to Springer and act like we hiked the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's also when we get at the end. So it's

0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:51.399
<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. Anyway, I've been getting a lot of great

0:52:51.440 --> 0:52:55.319
<v Speaker 1>emails and true stuff. You should know, fashion unplanned, but

0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:59.200
<v Speaker 1>very serendipitously. That episode was released on Naked Hike Day. Yeah,

0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:02.840
<v Speaker 1>we didn't know that was gonna happen, but sometimes it

0:53:02.880 --> 0:53:05.719
<v Speaker 1>works out that way. Yeah, so this is from this

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<v Speaker 1>is a really cool and from a man named Arthur Sparrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh she had to put in a pronunciation guide yourssic.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm gonna say. Hey guys, a long time listener,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm elated about this a T episode because it

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<v Speaker 1>changed my life. It was the best crazy thing I

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<v Speaker 1>ever decided to do when I threw hiked it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been about a decade battling opioid addiction previous to my

0:53:30.719 --> 0:53:34.600
<v Speaker 1>through hike in UH and when I left, I knew

0:53:34.640 --> 0:53:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I needed to change many aspects of my life. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a college grad from a good family, had a good job,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was just self destructing, and the A T

0:53:42.680 --> 0:53:45.560
<v Speaker 1>changed all that. The community in the trail where everything

0:53:45.560 --> 0:53:48.200
<v Speaker 1>I needed and helped me, saved my life from a

0:53:48.200 --> 0:53:51.040
<v Speaker 1>downward spiral when it's supplied hope for me when I

0:53:51.120 --> 0:53:54.480
<v Speaker 1>needed at most. Uh. Simultaneously, it showed me how much

0:53:54.880 --> 0:53:57.200
<v Speaker 1>we are truly capable of when we support one another

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<v Speaker 1>on our journey. Six months and three years later, still

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<v Speaker 1>opioid free, I started my own business after doing my hike,

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<v Speaker 1>doing work that I believe in, and now I'm living

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<v Speaker 1>and loving my journey on and off the trail. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope there are a few people like myself that hurt

0:54:12.440 --> 0:54:14.840
<v Speaker 1>your episode and like me, decided to do something crazy

0:54:14.920 --> 0:54:16.799
<v Speaker 1>and change your lives for the better. It will be

0:54:16.800 --> 0:54:19.400
<v Speaker 1>the best crazy thing that you ever did, too. I

0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:22.279
<v Speaker 1>can assure them of that. All the best, gentlemen, keep

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<v Speaker 1>up the great work. And I got permission from Arthur

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<v Speaker 1>to read this. Uh. He's the owner and operator of

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<v Speaker 1>Green Team Junk and UH the way to go. Arthur.

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<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. I'm so glad that you got it together,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm glad that A T was a part of

0:54:37.239 --> 0:54:40.680
<v Speaker 1>that experience. It's really great. Yeah, congratulations Arthur. That's amazing

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<v Speaker 1>and thank you for the email. I wonder if Green

0:54:43.719 --> 0:54:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Team is a reference to that. Will Ferrell and Michael

0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Riley and um Adam McKay, like short, what was that?

0:54:52.920 --> 0:54:56.040
<v Speaker 1>It was called Green Team. I don't why does that

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<v Speaker 1>ring a bell because you've seen it. It was, It

0:54:58.440 --> 0:55:00.600
<v Speaker 1>made the rounds. It was viral like any years ago.

0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Just look up Green Team. It's crazy. And I think

0:55:03.760 --> 0:55:06.280
<v Speaker 1>he's I think I said he was in the Sacramento area.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying. It looks like it's recycling and we're using

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<v Speaker 1>uh and hauling away stuff for people. Nice. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I gathered, like green junk removal, right, That's what

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<v Speaker 1>I figured. I mean, the guy hiked the a T

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<v Speaker 1>for pize's sake. Yeah, it's not Brown Team junk right. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks again, Arthur, fantastic congratulations and thanks for writing in.

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0:55:29.440 --> 0:55:32.680
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