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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know, a production of I

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh,

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Speaker 1: and there's Chuck and Jerry's hanging out and this is

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Speaker 1: Stuff you Should Know. Are continuing Architecture slash Design Suite Surprising. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's surprisingly interesting stuff. Huh. Yeah. And this one, um,

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Speaker 1: I mean listen however you listen, but if you have

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Speaker 1: a choice, I really would urge you to listen to

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Speaker 1: this when you can look at pictures of things. Uh,

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Speaker 1: this one above many many episodes, requires you to look

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Speaker 1: at this stuff as you're listening. Ideally, Yeah, and so

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Speaker 1: if you can do that, do that, yeah, because we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be mentioning specific buildings that you could go check

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Speaker 1: out and be like, oh, this is what they're talking about.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do our best, but we're going to be

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Speaker 1: describing structures. And it's just way easier to look at

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Speaker 1: the structure. You know, it's got a swoopy pointy thing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's basically it. Olivia was kind of enough to insert

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Speaker 1: hyperlinks into what she sent us. I mean it's super easy.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even have to google the googie and that

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Speaker 1: is what we're talking about. It's not a type of everybody.

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Speaker 1: It's Googy. It's a kind of architecture G O O,

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Speaker 1: G I E UM, And it is basically the architecture

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Speaker 1: that you think of when you think of the nineteen fifties,

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Speaker 1: mid fifties to the very early sixties in America, well,

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Speaker 1: the fifties when they were thinking of the nineties exactly,

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Speaker 1: that's a really good way that might look like. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they were way way off, but I mean, how

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Speaker 1: great would the nineties have been if it looked like

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Speaker 1: what they thought it was going to look like in

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Speaker 1: the fifties. I think it would have been pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Because I am personally a really big fan of Googy architecture.

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Speaker 1: It's nothing like I don't go tour the buildings or

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Speaker 1: anything like that. In fact, there's one in Georgia, and

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Speaker 1: I looked up where that town is and I'm like, no,

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Speaker 1: it's not worth the drive, but I do like looking

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Speaker 1: at pictures of them. I might That bank is three

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Speaker 1: to open up an account there just so I can

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Speaker 1: drive down to that amazing building in the middle of

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Speaker 1: nowhere southeast Georgia. It is really the middle it's not

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Speaker 1: near anything, nothing nowhere around it, but it does have

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Speaker 1: a really fine example of Googy architecture, which we'll get to,

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Speaker 1: which we should probably define beyond it's the architecture that

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Speaker 1: you think of when you think of the fifties or sixties, right,

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Speaker 1: And before we define it, I just want to say

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Speaker 1: that my love affair with Googie started out when I

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Speaker 1: was a kid. When I first honestly, when I first

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Speaker 1: went to Tomorrowland to Disney World, and then when I

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Speaker 1: started watching the Jetsons and being in Georgia, I didn't

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Speaker 1: see any examples of Googy really growing up UM, but

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Speaker 1: took my first trip to l l in nineteen eighty eight,

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Speaker 1: I saw a bunch of Googy. I was like, I

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Speaker 1: my first trip to New York where I met my

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Speaker 1: friend Bob, and this is was not exterior architecture, but

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Speaker 1: this was that early to mid nineties UM sort of design,

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Speaker 1: like kind of space age bachelor pad design movement that's

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Speaker 1: And Bob had his stuff like that, and I thought

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Speaker 1: it was so cool, and he told me about googie.

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Speaker 1: And that's the first time I had heard that word

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Speaker 1: was in That's Hilarious. I heard the word the first time,

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Speaker 1: like this month. I think, well, really well, I mean

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Speaker 1: think people that know it like to tell other people

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Speaker 1: because I remember when Google came along when I was

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Speaker 1: long personal preamble. Uh should we define it? I like it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's define it, chuck, have at it, all right. So

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Speaker 1: this was this came about post World War two, and

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Speaker 1: I love how Livia put this. It was influenced by

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Speaker 1: the techno optimism of that era, which was the thing.

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Speaker 1: the everyday person. And that's definitely one of the things

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Speaker 1: UM it emerged in largely state in California. It did.

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Speaker 1: also called coffee shop modern because there were so many

425
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: of them. Are Met and Davis and Fong built or

426
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, designed more than four thousand of these coffee shops. Right,

427
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: that's crazy, that's like all the coffee shops. What's funny

428
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: is if you um there was a an oh bit

429
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: of Davis. I can't remember when he died, but he

430
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: he died a very old man. Um and he had

431
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: said that he didn't really see much of a reason

432
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: to preserve these these buildings, which I think is a

433
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: little a little modest because people are saying like these

434
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: are masterpieces, like they it's just that the architectural world

435
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 1: didn't appreciate them. But they're great buildings and people are

436
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: destroying them. And the reason why is because, as as

437
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: Davis pointed out, these are commercial buildings. And I saw

438
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: someone describe commercial buildings as probably the architecture that's under

439
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: the most pressure to reinvent and reshape itself to keep

440
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: up with the times. Like, you can't be sentimental with

441
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 1: your commercial building. If Googie is out and it went

442
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: out fairly quick, you gotta scrap it and start over

443
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: and update, or else you're gonna people are gonna think

444
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: your building, your business is behind and behind the times

445
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: and out of touch, and you just can't let that happen,

446
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,719
Speaker 1: or else you're gonna lose out on business. So he

447
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 1: was saying, like, there's you know it was they were

448
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: commercial buildings, Like what what do you want? Of course

449
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: people are going to tear them down and replace them

450
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: with something else. Yeah, I never really thought about that.

451
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: That's interesting because unless you do something really revolutionary and

452
00:25:55,160 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 1: you you have a you know, Netflix show about your house, Um,

453
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: you can go out in two and say I want

454
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: to build a colonial and no one will be like really,

455
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: I mean it may not be your particular style, but

456
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 1: they still build colonial houses and craftsman's and all kinds

457
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: of houses from all sorts of eras. But I think

458
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: a commercial building that really makes a lot of sense,

459
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: Like you can't go out and build a commercial building

460
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,239
Speaker 1: that looks thirty years old. You might can go out

461
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: and build something it looks like fifty years old, if

462
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 1: it's some kind of cool retro thing. But you can't

463
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: be anywhere in Besween and build something that looks dated.

464
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: You know, no, you can't. It can be classic, but

465
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: it can't be dated. I think that's the fatal flaws

466
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: dated and and Googy dated itself very quickly, as we'll see.

467
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 1: That's right. And then there was Norms too. We mentioned Norms.

468
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: That was another Hell and Fong classic too, which is

469
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: just like a great example of Googy architecture. I think

470
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: Norms is still there too. Yes, I believe it was

471
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: also designated a Historic and Cultural Monument by the l

472
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 1: A City Council. Was it was going to go under

473
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: the wrecking ball, and they stepped in and said, nope,

474
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: you're not going to tear down this norm So it

475
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 1: is still there and it is an awesome building. It's

476
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: great on Los Angego right there in Hollywood, like a

477
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 1: lot of these buildings are. Uh the Holiday Bowl, this

478
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: was a really special story. There's a bowling alley on

479
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: Crenshaw Boulevard in Crenshaw in Los Angeles, and uh Fong

480
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 1: designed the interior and there was a bar and they're

481
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: called Sebeka. Sorry, I bet it was hopping Man. Um.

482
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: The cool thing about this area at the time was

483
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 1: it it was one of the only integrated parts of

484
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. The local high school literally had one third

485
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: African American, one third Asian American, and one third white kids. Yeah,

486
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,479
Speaker 1: and that was what made the Holiday Bowls so special,

487
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: as you had these different cultures and groups of people

488
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: getting together where they didn't do so in most parts

489
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: of Los Angeles at the time. Uh. And they had

490
00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 1: not only were they bowling, but there was a cough

491
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: shop on the premises. And when we keep saying coffee shop,

492
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: these were coffee shop like the pulp fiction they were.

493
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: They're like diners basically. Yeah. I saw that they were

494
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: a step up from diners, but not you know, as

495
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 1: as nice as like a regular restaurant. Yeah. Yeah, that's

496
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: that's a good way to put it. But at the

497
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,360
Speaker 1: Holiday Bowl Diner, I'm sorry, the Holiday Bowl coffee shop. Uh,

498
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: they had all kinds of food. They had oudon, they

499
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: had grits in southern uh, like soul food. They had

500
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: straight up burgers and fries. I read an article where

501
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: people were saying like this was you know, the first

502
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: time they ever had sushi in their life, and this

503
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: was in the nineties, fifties and early sixties, which was crazy.

504
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: Um or. I don't know if they had sushi that early,

505
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: but at least at some point they did. Uh. It

506
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: was seven place where people could go hang out. They

507
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: could drink at the Bowling Alley, go to this coffee

508
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: shop after uh. And it was actually protected during the

509
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: La Riots and two like residents of Crenshaw lined outside

510
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: of the holiday bowl so people wouldn't touch it. So um.

511
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: I saw that it was demolished, but I also saw

512
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: a picture from three years after it was supposedly demolished,

513
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: and it was still there. But the coffee shop is

514
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 1: now a Starbucks and the Bowling Alley is now a Walgreens.

515
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: It looks like yeah, So what they did was they

516
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: did destroy the actual Bowling Alley part and rebuilt it

517
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: as a Walgreens, but that exterior coffee shop facade is

518
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: still attached and it is a Starbucks. Yeah, but it's

519
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: still googy. Yeah. It looks cool. So um. There were

520
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: some other ones we mentioned. The original or one of

521
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: the earliest McDonald's from Downey, California nine I think right,

522
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: low building parable is on either side. Yeah. And that McDonald's,

523
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, is in Downey and we talked about

524
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: it in the McDonald's episode Taco Bell one too. I think,

525
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: oh really, okay, I thought you were making a joke. No, no,

526
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: for real, the Taco episode we talked about Taco Bell

527
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: and like, there are a bunch of ones from Downey, California.

528
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: But it's an amazing looking restaurant and it's got a

529
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: it's got a really cool little museum, McDonald's Museum next door,

530
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: so you can still walk up. It's a it's just

531
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: a sort of counter not counter. I guess it is

532
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: counter service, but you can't go in. You know, what

533
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 1: do you call those? A walk out, a walk up

534
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: take out? Sure, any of those? I think someone said

535
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: they built a finally built a drive through, but I

536
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: don't think you can dine in. Still boy, they I

537
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: guess they're the first McDonald's to have a drive through. Then, No,

538
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: I think more recently built a drive No, it's just teasing, okay.

539
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: One of the other things you mentioned, the Holiday Bowl

540
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: and bowling alleys, were just like begging to be made

541
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: into googie structures. And another good example is the Covina

542
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: Bowl in Covina, California, which I guess is around Los Angeles,

543
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: and um, it is, it still remains, It's still there.

544
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: It's up for grabs exactly what's going to happen to it. Um.

545
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: But they're they're in talks to somehow preserve some of

546
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: the facade or structure or sign or something as they

547
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: redevelop it, I think into condos. But it was divine

548
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 1: designed by a firm that created fifty bowling alleys throughout

549
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: California in the seven years between nine and sixty two.

550
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: And I mean, I think, actually this is what gave

551
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: me the idea for this episode, Chuck, because I was

552
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: looking at old bowling alleys bowling yeah, and I came

553
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: across the term googie um, because I was like, this

554
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: is just such a cool looking bowling alley, and sure

555
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: enough it was googy And it just led to one

556
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: thing led to another, and here we are, well that

557
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: Hollywood Star Lanes where the big Lebowskio shot was very googy. Uh.

558
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: And I was just meant to mention during the Latner segment. Uh,

559
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: I saw that they just a few years ago one

560
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: of the Latner homes was up for sale, which is

561
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: a rarity in and of itself, but it was, and

562
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: I say, only two and a half million bucks. That's

563
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: a lot of money for a house, to be sure,

564
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: But I just thought with l a southern California real

565
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: estate anyway, and it's this historic building and an historic

566
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,239
Speaker 1: architect and it's amazing. I thought it would be like

567
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: twelve million bucks. Yeah, you definitely think that, So, yeah,

568
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: it was. I was very surprised. I mean it seemed

569
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 1: like a steel I didn't have I didn't have the

570
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: cash on me, but it looked pretty amazing. And we

571
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: should mention the ship's coffee shops as well, right, those

572
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: the little tiny three coffee shop chain. Yeah, um, they

573
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: were kind of boomerang shaped from what I could tell.

574
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: I couldn't see like a really good picture of those guys,

575
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: but I thought what was kind of cute is apparently

576
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: every every location had a toaster on every table. Best

577
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: idea of all time, except for the liability. Probably the liability,

578
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: but also like every once in a while there's a

579
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: crank that would come in and be like, well I

580
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: want to discount since I have to toast it myself. Man,

581
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: Because I can think of at that means that there's

582
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: a possibility I might have been that guy. Just I

583
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: want to make my own toast and restaurants more than anything.

584
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: It does seem like a good idea, for sure. It's

585
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: a very specific thing how people like their toasts made.

586
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: So I love that idea. But hats off the ships

587
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: for that one other one too. That's kind of an

588
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: icon of googie you mentioned before, that Gulf seventies six station.

589
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: Um that's in Beverly Hills. Uh. And it apparently the

590
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: design of it, not the Gulf station itself, but the

591
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 1: design of this roof. It's um been likened to a

592
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: flying carpet and it really kind of looks like when

593
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: it's got some of the most amazing curves I've ever

594
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: seen that just don't make any sense whatsoever for a roof,

595
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: but it really looks cool. Um. And once you understand

596
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: that it was supposed to be part of the l

597
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: a X Airport, and then you're like, okay, that makes sense.

598
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 1: But apparently it got cut out the design. But the

599
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: designer Jin Wong was like, this is too cool to

600
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: just not do. Just turn it into a gas station instead.

601
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: I've gotten gas there. Every I mean I wasn't in

602
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills much, but I tried to get gas there

603
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: when I could. It's at Crescent Drive and Little Santa

604
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: Monica Bolivard in Beverly Hills, and it is a very

605
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: very cool gas station. I shot at one of these

606
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: out in the desert, which I guess leads no, no,

607
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: no, no no no. We we shot a TV commercial at

608
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: one roadside gas stations, like a Root sixty six type

609
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: of deal out in the middle of nowhere. That looking

610
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: back was super googie um. And that leads us to

611
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: a break, because we're gonna come back and talk about

612
00:34:37,120 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: the desert and Las Vegas. Okay, Chuck, you set us

613
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: up maybe better than we've ever been set up before.

614
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: And if you've been sitting here listening to us describe

615
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: Googie architecture, even going and looking at some of the photos,

616
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: you might be like, man, this seems really Vegas to me.

617
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 1: You would be right about that, because it got exported

618
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: to Vegas pretty quick and took off like a rocket there,

619
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: starting with the Sands Uh in nineteen fifty two. It

620
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: was the first Googie esque structure there because before that

621
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: it was all like Bolero ties and wagon wheels and

622
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: then yeah, and then the Sands came along and said,

623
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: you Hicks, we're gonna start something new where the mafia,

624
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: where the trend setting is Mafia of all time. We're

625
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: gonna take you into the space age. Uh. And that

626
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: Sands was I think you said, built in fifty two.

627
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: And that brings back Mr Wayne McAlister into the picture,

628
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: who designed that Bob's Big Boy and her Bank just

629
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: a few years before that. Uh. And you know, just

630
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: look up any image of the old Sands casino sign

631
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: and it had that egg carton grid was really tall.

632
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: It was like close to sixty ft in the air,

633
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: very geometric shapes, and the script was super Googy as well.

634
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: And I think Vegas took notice and said, you know,

635
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: I don't know who those mob guys are talking to,

636
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: but uh, they're onto something here. And Googy started popping

637
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:33,720
Speaker 1: up everywhere, including probably most famously in that iconic welcome

638
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: to Fabulous Las Vegas sign. Yeah, that is super Googy.

639
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: I mean like if you if you're ever talking to

640
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: somebody about a Googy design and they ask you what

641
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: you're talking about, to say, the like the designer the

642
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: lass welcome to Las Vegas sign that's it's it's it's

643
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: hits basically every chord on that like big exaggerated fonts,

644
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: different kinds of fonts, they're starbursts, there's geometric shapes, there's

645
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of different colors. It's it's googie and

646
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: it's deepest soul it is. It's a great sign um.

647
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: While I was looking all this stuff up, I was

648
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: in my head, I was like, wait, I feel like

649
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: they were old Howard Johnson's motels that were kind of googy.

650
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 1: And I looked and I looked, and I couldn't find any.

651
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 1: And then finally I did, and sure enough, a handful

652
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: of those Hojo's from that era had these big, swoopy,

653
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: pointy triangular roofs that went all the way down to

654
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: the ground, kind of like an a frame and jutted

655
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: way out over the roadway. And uh, I knew I

656
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: had seen those in my past, but I don't. I

657
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: don't think there's a lot of them. But it just

658
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: kind of goes to show where how Googi spread um

659
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: beyond California and Las Vegas. And we're gonna talk about

660
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: a few more of those places. Yeah, I mean, there's different,

661
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: It just pops up in some random places, like apparently

662
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: the northwest side of Chicago was developed later than the

663
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 1: rest of it, and it just so happened that googy

664
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: was having its heyday. So there's some random googie structures.

665
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: Trim and Tidy Cleaners. Uh, super Dog Pride Cleaners is

666
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: really cool looking. Um, I think it's I think that's

667
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: the one that it looks like a It's a giant

668
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: triangle with the points sticking out street word if I'm

669
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: not mistaken. Um, it's it's really neat to see. And

670
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: then the Ohio House Motel is what's called it's like

671
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: a subset of googie architecture called phony Cologne, like fox

672
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: Colonial and that awesome of that term. You a funny coloni. Uh,

673
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna be my latest, my newest insult. Um. The

674
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: wild Woods Resort area of New Jersey has a quite

675
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: a few googie kind of motels. They would say, uh,

676
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: they would call it doo wop style because that's sort

677
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: of the nine fifties rock and roll seen there in

678
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: the Jersey Shore at the time. But if you look

679
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: up what the Moray family m O. R. E. Y

680
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: designed a number of those motels kind of near the

681
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: Jersey Shore seaside, and they're really cool looking. They're they're

682
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 1: not quite as out there and space shippy, but they're

683
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: definitely googie. Uh. And then there's a newer win I think,

684
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: you know. Now people are building the occasional kind of

685
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 1: modern googie throwback look and the star Lux Hotel there

686
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: is one pretty great example of that. Yeah. I found

687
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: a really great website called Modernist Architecture and they have

688
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 1: a post from two thousand fifteen called Wildwood the East

689
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: Coast Capital of Googi I mean doo wop, and it

690
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: is a comprehensive photo spread of all these googie structures

691
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: in Wildwood on the Jersey Shore, and it just looks

692
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: like an amazing place to wander around. But it's googie

693
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: through and through. I saw that. I think in that

694
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: blog they said that it's probably the densest concentration of

695
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: googie architecture left in the country. Yeah, and it kind

696
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: of fits those seasides to feel, I think, with the

697
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: pastels and it just sort of all works together, I think. Yeah. Um.

698
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: There's also some in Phoenix and Tucson. Probably most famous

699
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: in Phoenix is what used to be called the three

700
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: hundred bowl a bowling alley again and I read that

701
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: no one is exactly sure who designed it um, what firm,

702
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: or what architect designed the three hunder Bull, but is

703
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: a classic example of of Googy architecture. UM. There's also

704
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: Paris Laundry and dry cleaning and the Rainbow car wash there.

705
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,839
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool stuff. These episodes are fun because there's

706
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: an know there's people all over the country that love

707
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: their little buildings get shouted out in their towns totally.

708
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 1: The Biff Burger Drive and Chain and clear Water this

709
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: was right in that sort of middle of that era

710
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,959
Speaker 1: in the nineteen fifty six. Lots of Googy inspired stuff there.

711
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: And then there's a shopping center of the south Gate

712
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: Shopping Center in Lakeland, Florida, also mid to late fifties.

713
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 1: Another great example. Yeah, you gotta look up the Biff

714
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: Burger Um, Like look up Biff Burger nineteen fifty six.

715
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: And one of the big Googie things they have is

716
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: like they're signed, is like different like different geometric structures

717
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: like separate from one another, and each one like holds

718
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: a letter or a little message or something. They're all

719
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: really brightly colored. It's just really cool and neat looking

720
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: and we mentioned that great. Yeah, those are great signs.

721
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,240
Speaker 1: I'm looking at them now. Uh, that great bank. And

722
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere Georgia and Alma, Georgia, the

723
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: Alma Exchange Bank, Uh, nineteen sixty six. You really need

724
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 1: to look this one up and imagine this in um

725
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 1: sort of rural southeastern Georgia between Atlanta and Jacksonville. It

726
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 1: is really something else. Uh. And there's a cool place

727
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 1: right here, a newer place UM in the Centennial Olympic

728
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: Park in Atlanta called Googie Burger. And it's open about

729
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: twelve years ago, in twenty and it's a really cool

730
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: modern take on a googie style and it's it's awesome.

731
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: I didn't even know it was there. And then also

732
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: took one of the other things, you know, we've been

733
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 1: talking about, things like dry cleaners and car washes and

734
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: bowling alleys like it. It appeared in some like legit

735
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: big structures like the theme building, the Iconic building at

736
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: l a X that looks like a War of the

737
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: World's UFO basically on stilts. Um. That is about as

738
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: googy as it gets. Um that when it's not like

739
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: a dry cleaners, that's super Googy Building. Yeah, that one,

740
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: um people probably you might have heard it called the

741
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: Encounter because it had a restaurant and bar called the

742
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: Encounter in it, but it is called the Theme Building.

743
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: And it was there when I was there and open,

744
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: and you know, it was kind of a fun thing

745
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: to go and like grab a cocktail before you pick

746
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: someone up on an airport run and just kind of

747
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 1: like drinking that vibe for a half hour or so. Uh,

748
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: and then it closed in because there was always just

749
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: a it was right there by the airport, so usually

750
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: it was airport people, but like, youn't go early enough

751
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 1: if you were like flying somewhere just to go to

752
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: a restaurant outside the airport because it's not you know,

753
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: you can't check in and then go back out to

754
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 1: the Encounter and then going afterward. Like maybe I think

755
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: once I might have picked someone up that had just

756
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: come into town who had never been to l A.

757
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, the first thing we'll do is go

758
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: to the Encounter. But it it was it was just

759
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: sort of had a problem of no one quite new

760
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: whin to go, right because it was so tied to

761
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: the airport. You didn't want to go there if you

762
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the airport because you didn't

763
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: want to be in the airport traffic, which is notoriously

764
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: bad in l A. So it eventually kind of closed

765
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: down because of this problem in it's pretty sad. Yeah,

766
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: it is a little sad, but it is super It

767
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: was a very inconvenient place for sure. What about Tomorrowland

768
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: that I mentioned Tomorrow and everybody, I don't want to

769
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: say everybody, but almost everybody's been to either Tomorrowland at

770
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: Disney World or Disneyland, and it's just like this retro

771
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 1: future googie architecture. It was at first, and I didn't

772
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: know this, but apparently it was originally meant to mimic

773
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: what what they thought it was gonna look like in

774
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: nineteen eighties. Six. Yeah, that funny what the people of

775
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: nineteen six would look like. Yeah, And you know I

776
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: took I mentioned not too long ago, I took my

777
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: first visit to Disney World since I was a kid recently,

778
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: and um, I was shocked how little things had changed

779
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: all throughout the park until I sort of stopped to

780
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: think about it. Because didn't Disney people like they don't

781
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: want anything different about that particular park. They They're fine

782
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: with like adding new things, but like, you don't go

783
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 1: in and change Tomorrowland and get rid of those creddy

784
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: race cars in favor of something better. You just leave

785
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: the people mover. You leave it alone. Yeah, and let's

786
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: the I agree with that. I think that they should

787
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: until it falls apart, until the people Mover like falls

788
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: off of the cable and kills a bunch of people. Well,

789
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: I think his Disney largely deals in the business of nostalgia, definitely.

790
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 1: That's why John Hodgman hates that place. One another way,

791
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: the t w A Flight Center at jfk uh Aero

792
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: saran In designed it and it's amazing, so we don't

793
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 1: need to say anything else about it. But it was

794
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 1: built in ninety two. Just go to the Curbed New

795
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: York website and search for explore the t w A

796
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: Terminal um and it will it's this is amazing photo

797
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: spread from years back from a photographer named Max Twoey

798
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:35,799
Speaker 1: who was granted access to this abandoned but totally preserved

799
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty two. UM Gooey like like terminal for t

800
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: w A. It's the most amazing thing you'll ever see.

801
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: It is a googy did I, well, the floor is

802
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 1: made of molasses. Well that that Isn't that the same

803
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: spot that they have now opened the new T D

804
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: T w A Hotel. Yes, because it was like perfectly preserved.

805
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: I don't know how they did it, but I think

806
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: somebody was like, this thing, we can't do anything with this.

807
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 1: It's just too amazing. We can't not mention the space

808
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: Needle in Seattle probably their most favorite. I don't I

809
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 1: don't know what Seattle people think of it. I don't

810
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: know if they're tired of it or what. But it

811
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: is there, you know, kind of one of their iconic buildings.

812
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: Just ask Fraser Grain. Uh, it's right there in the

813
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: skyline and those opening credits. But it was built in

814
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty one for their worldfare uh, and Seattle Hotel

815
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: executive named Edward E. Carlson gave it its iconic name,

816
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: and its chief engineer was a gentleman name John Menascian

817
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 1: who actually worked for NASA and designed rocket gantries. Pretty cool. Yeah,

818
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: I think definitely legitimizes the space needle for sure. So

819
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: what happened to Googy? Well, like we said, it dated

820
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: itself and Googie came along technically in nine, but really

821
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 1: it started to take off in the mid fifties, say um,

822
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: And it was based on like like you're saying, techno

823
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: optimism of the post World War two economic boom um

824
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: and us getting to space and just trying new technology,

825
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: and we actually did all that stuff. Like those promises

826
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: of the future actually came true pretty quick, Like we

827
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: ended up on the moon in nineteen sixty nine, and

828
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 1: once we got there, humanity was like, we've been there,

829
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: We've done that, and like the whole that techno optimism

830
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: like kind of faded pretty quickly because it became every

831
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: day in commonplace, and since Googie was the architecture associated

832
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: with that that future that now would become everyday in commonplace,

833
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 1: it got dated. I think that's kind of sad but

834
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: also hysterical. Yeah, that like when people walked on the moon,

835
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: like that next week the dry cleaner sat down with

836
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: a designer to build their new dry cleaner. Was like

837
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: they were like, well, what do you want to do?

838
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: Just build me a dry cleaning Yeah, you know, he

839
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: was like, I'm ruined. We've been to the moon. Who cares.

840
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 1: That's one of Glen clothes. I saw one of the

841
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: things that really signaled the death knell. Uh. Maybe not earliest,

842
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: but pretty early on was that McDonald's radically changed its

843
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: design from parabolas and up swept you know, angular roofs

844
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: to um houses like a brick house with a mansward roof. Um.

845
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 1: That that really iconic seventies and eighties McDonald look um

846
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: that the whole restaurant style was all the same. Yeah, yeah,

847
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: it was very close. Although I looked it up. Pizza

848
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: Hut's roof is different kind it's not a mansward roof

849
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: like camera, but but yes, it is very similar, and

850
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: it was meant to evoke home, which is totally different

851
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: from like a you know, a coffee shop that starts

852
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: taking up towards the taking off up towards the sky

853
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 1: like this. It was a different feel in a different vibe,

854
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: and it also tied into the ecology movement, right Yeah,

855
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: I mean I think, you know, uh, one might argue

856
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 1: that some of this gooogy stuff is can be wasteful

857
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: in terms of materials, um to build a roof that extends,

858
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: you know, sixty feet to a point to the sky

859
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 1: when you just need a regular roof. Really, so I

860
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: think taste sort of we're tamed down a little bit.

861
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: Um using more uh sort of sensible materials I think

862
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: played a part, uh, going to the outer space played

863
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: apart all this stuff, and like you know, sort of

864
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: any thing that doesn't end up being a classic design,

865
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: it's gonna come and go, especially one that's kind of

866
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: radical like this, So you know, it was bound to

867
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: have its moment and then leave and then be looked

868
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 1: back upon with fond eyes years later. Uh. And that's

869
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: what's happened largely sadly during you know, of course the eighties,

870
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: a lot of these buildings in l A and the

871
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 1: South End were demolished. Um. But towards the end of

872
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: the eighties, UM, certainly with the publication of the eight

873
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: six book from Hess Googie Colon fifty Coffee Shop fifties

874
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: coffee shop arc texture that sort of helped um reignite

875
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 1: like an appreciation for these buildings in this architecture, and

876
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 1: more and more were protected that had not been demolished. Yeah,

877
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: and they're still being demolished. I saw that something like

878
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: a third of them are gone now already, which is

879
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: really high um as far as demolition goes for a

880
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: specific kind of architecture. But they are getting protected more

881
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: and more, which I think is good totally. I saw

882
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: one other thing that led to the demise of Googie. Um. So,

883
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: Googie design was meant to attract the eyes of southern

884
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: California drivers as they were passing by, so that they

885
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: would turn in and be like, yeah, I could go

886
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: for a cup of coffee and a piece of pie

887
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: right or I could get my shirt dry cleaned right now,

888
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: who knows. So that's what I was designed for. But

889
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 1: then in the highway acts started building highways rather than

890
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 1: surface streets, so people weren't on the surface streets anymore,

891
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: and they were going way faster and they were going

892
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: faster than Googie architecture could catch their attention, and that

893
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: that was a big part of it too. Yeah. I

894
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 1: mean that's uh, as evidence in our sixty six podcast

895
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: and to bring it for full circle that abandoned Googie

896
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: gas station on Route sixty six that we shot at,

897
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: I'll stopping there for gas. It was closed. Yeah, that's true.

898
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: That's what happens. The highway killed it. High we killed it. Uh,

899
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,879
Speaker 1: you got anything else? I got nothing. If you want

900
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: to know more about Googie architecture, just go spend some

901
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: time looking up googie buildings. It's a lot of fun.

902
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: They're just so colorful. And since I said they're colorful,

903
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: it's time for a listener mail. I'm gonna call this

904
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: what will It will be the first of two Appalachian

905
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 1: Trail emails. And by the way, I'm doing the Georgia

906
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: portion next spring. Oh nice, man, I'm doing it. Me

907
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: and my friend Eddie and my friend Clay have all

908
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: dedicated to do it. And so this is not only

909
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: a personal life goal that I had never accomplished, but

910
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: a personal fitness goal because I can't go out there

911
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 1: right now and do that in the shape and so

912
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: losing weight it's never worked, like, oh I got that

913
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: wedding this fall. I need to look good for like

914
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: that stuff never worked for me. But I can't do

915
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: this like and be successful without getting in shape, like

916
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: I will die on the side of a mountain. Right,

917
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 1: You really need to read into the Woods because one

918
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 1: of the characters is exactly in that same position. All right.

919
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: So it's a health goal and just a life goal,

920
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: and we're gonna do it next March. You're going with

921
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: Eddie as in Eddie the fest Strangler, Eddie, Eddie, I

922
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: don't know if that's such a good idea. We're gonna

923
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: start in North Carolina at the border and go sobo

924
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: to Springer and act like we hiked the whole thing.

925
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: That's also when we get at the end. So it's

926
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: pretty cool. Anyway, I've been getting a lot of great

927
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 1: emails and true stuff. You should know, fashion unplanned, but

928
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: very serendipitously. That episode was released on Naked Hike Day. Yeah,

929
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: we didn't know that was gonna happen, but sometimes it

930
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: works out that way. Yeah, so this is from this

931
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: is a really cool and from a man named Arthur Sparrow.

932
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: Oh she had to put in a pronunciation guide yourssic.

933
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna say. Hey guys, a long time listener,

934
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: and I'm elated about this a T episode because it

935
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: changed my life. It was the best crazy thing I

936
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: ever decided to do when I threw hiked it. It's

937
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 1: been about a decade battling opioid addiction previous to my

938
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: through hike in UH and when I left, I knew

939
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: I needed to change many aspects of my life. I'm

940
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: a college grad from a good family, had a good job,

941
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: but I was just self destructing, and the A T

942
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: changed all that. The community in the trail where everything

943
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: I needed and helped me, saved my life from a

944
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: downward spiral when it's supplied hope for me when I

945
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: needed at most. Uh. Simultaneously, it showed me how much

946
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: we are truly capable of when we support one another

947
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: on our journey. Six months and three years later, still

948
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: opioid free, I started my own business after doing my hike,

949
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: doing work that I believe in, and now I'm living

950
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: and loving my journey on and off the trail. I

951
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: hope there are a few people like myself that hurt

952
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 1: your episode and like me, decided to do something crazy

953
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: and change your lives for the better. It will be

954
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: the best crazy thing that you ever did, too. I

955
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: can assure them of that. All the best, gentlemen, keep

956
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: up the great work. And I got permission from Arthur

957
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: to read this. Uh. He's the owner and operator of

958
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:32,439
Speaker 1: Green Team Junk and UH the way to go. Arthur.

959
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: That's amazing. I'm so glad that you got it together,

960
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: and I'm glad that A T was a part of

961
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: that experience. It's really great. Yeah, congratulations Arthur. That's amazing

962
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: and thank you for the email. I wonder if Green

963
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: Team is a reference to that. Will Ferrell and Michael

964
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: Riley and um Adam McKay, like short, what was that?

965
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: It was called Green Team. I don't why does that

966
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: ring a bell because you've seen it. It was, It

967
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: made the rounds. It was viral like any years ago.

968
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: Just look up Green Team. It's crazy. And I think

969
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 1: he's I think I said he was in the Sacramento area.

970
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,959
Speaker 1: I'm trying. It looks like it's recycling and we're using

971
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: uh and hauling away stuff for people. Nice. But that's

972
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: what I gathered, like green junk removal, right, That's what

973
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: I figured. I mean, the guy hiked the a T

974
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: for pize's sake. Yeah, it's not Brown Team junk right. Well,

975
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 1: thanks again, Arthur, fantastic congratulations and thanks for writing in.

976
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: And if you want to be like Arthur and share

977
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: your personal successes with us, we want to hear them.

978
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 1: You can send us an email to Stuff podcast at

979
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:41,759
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980
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00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:49,840
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