1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to America's how Mr garbutsch Off tear down this wall. 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: Either you're with us or you were with the terrorists. 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: If you've got health care already, then you can keep 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: your plan. If you're satisfied with Trunk is not the 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: President of the United States, take it to a bank. Together, 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: we will make America great again. We'll never sharend. It's 7 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: what you've been waiting for all day. Buck Sexton with America. 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: Now join the conversation called buck toll free at eight 9 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: four four nine hundred buck. That's eight four four nine 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: hundred two, eight to five, sharp mind, strong voice, Buck Sexton. 11 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: Welcome everybody. Buck Sexton here with you all now, thank 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: you so much for joining. A lot to talk to 13 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: you about today. Some of it will be a preview 14 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: of all the things we'll be talking about next week, 15 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: because next week is when we hit the hundred days 16 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: in to the Trump administration mark. But I wanted to 17 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 1: start if I could, with which I guess I can, 18 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: because it's my show and I get to I can 19 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: talk about it. I want to talk about, which is nice. 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: It's fun part about radio with the latest on Trump 21 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: and France and the comparisons that everyone's drawing with the 22 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: upcoming uh French election. I just want to say, this 23 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: is one of those moments where you can take it 24 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: in either direction. You can either look at um, the 25 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: French election on Sunday as somehow tied to what's going 26 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: on here, or you can understand that or take a 27 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: more specific view of things that they're all different political 28 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: ecosystems in Europe, and there are some similarity short in 29 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: the very broadest sense what's been happening in in this country. 30 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: But the moment you step out of the realm of 31 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: radicalist um and the nationalism, at least nationalism nationalism as 32 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: it's referred to in the context of secure borders um, 33 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: the moment that you start to look beyond that into 34 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: the specifics of whether it's the Dutch economy, the French economy, 35 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: the Swedish economy, British economy. You're making some very broad 36 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: generalizations with what's going on here in this country. Well, 37 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: there are some similar there are some things we can 38 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: point out and say, sure, that's that's one place where 39 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: we can draw parallels. And immigration and radical Islam are 40 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: the only places where I think you draw a direct correlation, 41 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: because that's where you see the rise in uh nationalist sentiment. 42 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: I don't. I think nationalist is a very imperfect word. 43 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: I don't really. I wish there was a way to 44 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: call someone pro sovereignty without saying that they were a nationalist. 45 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: Having secure borders does not make you a nationalists. In fact, 46 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: earlier this week it didn't get a lot of a 47 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: lot of media play for obvious reasons. But in Canada 48 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: they have seen a surge in people crossing over from 49 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: America seeking asylum status. I assume it is illegal, illegal 50 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: aliens in America who cross over to Canada hoping to 51 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: be able to establish a permanent residency in Canada. And 52 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: the Canadians have some issue with this, And I just 53 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: think it's fashionating to watch this playout because Canada is 54 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: a very You got just in Trudeau, Mr slick g Q, 55 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: leftist Canadian prime minister, and you have all of these 56 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: people who assume that Canada is so open arms and 57 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: effectively open borders, and it's just not. Yeah. Sure, they've 58 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: taken a decent number of refugees and a much smaller 59 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: country by population than America, so as a percentage, it's 60 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: pretty uh, it is pretty substantial. But they have a 61 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: point tom for immigrants. They they you can go on 62 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: their website and you can find out about why they 63 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: bring people in, what they look for, education assets, financial assets. Uh, 64 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: those are all things that go into a formula to 65 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: decide whether or not you can become a Canadian. Whereas 66 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: in this country we have a system that's primarily based 67 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: on family ties. We have chain migration, so if someone 68 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: is here and they want to sponsor relatives, those relatives 69 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: go to the front line. Now I'm sure there's some 70 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: exceptions in this depending on what your status may be. 71 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 1: And you know, immigration law is a specialization that that 72 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: I don't have UM, but I do know that chain 73 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: migration is first and foremost, that that's at the very 74 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: top of our immigration pyramid, and that's the way we 75 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 1: do think. So so we look at the French. But 76 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: back to the French election, I just want to talk 77 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: about Canada for a second, because a Canada went not um. 78 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: But the French election is getting a lot of attention 79 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: from us because it is also viewed in some at 80 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: some level, not just as a possible a possible tie 81 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: to the American Trump is m that is now has 82 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: now given us our administration. But also on top of that, 83 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: you have the radical Islam factor, which I do believe 84 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: was part of Trump's rise. I think that was an 85 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: area where he seemed uh more in touch with a 86 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: majority of the American people than Hillary Clinton did the polling. 87 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: It was fastening to watch this play out during the 88 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: general election. I remember a few times and this is 89 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: just off the top of my head, but where Trump 90 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: would say something about Islamic terrorism and they, the media, 91 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: especially CNN and MSNBC, would do a whole twenty four 92 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: hours on Trump's islamaphobia. Then they'd run a poll and 93 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: they'd find out, no, actually, people are kind of okay 94 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: with the way Trump speaks about the threat of jihadas terrorism. 95 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: They prefer someone who just says what we all instinctively 96 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: know and are aware of based on what's happening in 97 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: the news. So that was a very powerful way that 98 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: Trump was able to connect with voters. That was sure 99 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: on immigration as well, But it was I think it 100 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: wasn't a John McCain who had the straight talk Express, 101 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: which was not build the dang wall um, which was 102 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: not really straight talk. Is McCain is somebody who I'm 103 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: not really sure what his political philosophy is um other 104 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: than to sometimes leave Republicans high and dry. But it 105 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: was Trump who was speaking to people about issues the 106 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: way they speak to other people about it. And that's 107 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 1: how you had a billionaire who was getting the votes 108 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: of lots of people who make a living with their hands. 109 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: You know, this is how Uh, machinists and truck drivers 110 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: and farmers and you name it were like Trump, Trump 111 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: speaks my language. They were right, he does. He just 112 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: speaks in a straightforward, unpretentious fashion. Now the media says 113 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: that he's some sort of blundering, blustering idiot, of course, 114 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: but the sentiments that he breast on some of those 115 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: key issues just connected with people. Because unless you've been 116 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: indoctrinated against this, unless you think yourself really fancy and 117 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: a and a vanity fair reading almond almond milk latte, 118 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 1: drinking progressive brooklynite with an indoor scarf, and I don't know, 119 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get the really nailed down the stereotype 120 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: here and uh, and unless you're in that category, when 121 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: someone says, you know, we really have to when we're 122 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: talking about terrorism, we have to focus on the threat 123 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: of Islamic terrorism or jihadism. You just go, yeah, well, 124 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: of course, because look at the French and what do 125 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: you think would happened if somebody stood up And this 126 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: is true in this country as well, But I'm just 127 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: saying in the context of France, if someone stood up 128 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: at a at a town hall right now in Paris 129 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: and they said, well, you know, we we really shouldn't 130 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: be worried about Islamic terrorism because there's other forms of 131 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: terrorism that are just that are just as bad. Look 132 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: at Ander's Brave Vick in Norway or Timothy McVeigh in America. 133 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: They'd probably get booed. Everybody in the room would think, 134 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: who is this, who is this imbecile? Alright, we've had 135 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: Charlie Hebdo, We've had the Bota Clan massacre, We've had 136 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: the Nice truck massacre, all g hottest murder sprees, and 137 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: now for us, they've had another incident. And I'm not 138 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: even including some of the more minor incidents that were 139 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: also you know, alahaak bar, I'm doing this for the 140 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: Islamic state. This is not a manufactured controversy. This is 141 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: this is not a a lack of balance in the media. 142 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: It's not right wing extremism, where's n phobi or anything else. 143 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: It's just a recognition of where the primary threat comes 144 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: from on this issue, and can we just speak about that. 145 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: And I think that also everyone is is sick and 146 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: this is true. I could say in France or I 147 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: could say in in America, although I don't know if 148 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: how indoctrinated. The French left got a socialist, You've got 149 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: a communist who's running. In France, you've got socialists. Currently 150 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: the president's flancois alone, he's a socialist. So of course 151 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: there are in both societies there are people that have 152 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: been conditioned to suppress common sense and to say, oh, no, 153 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: that the real threat of terrorism is from uh, you know, 154 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 1: right wing extremists who don't believe in in universal health 155 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: care or something. Right. There's still there's still people who 156 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: will say that, of course, large numbers of them, unfortunately, 157 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: but enough people have come over to the side of 158 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: common sense. Enough people have said enough, enough is enough 159 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: that it may have an effect on the outcome in France. Now, 160 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: now you get into the trouble though, of the specificities 161 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: of French politics. You have the the National Front with 162 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: Marine le Pen we say here, I think pin but anyway, 163 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: Leapin is the American is Americanized way of saying it, 164 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: and she's viewed as far right and or is far right. 165 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: And then you have Francois Fillon. I'm getting very French here, 166 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: who is a center right Republican most likely to be 167 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: I'll actually know the polling is is Razor thin right. 168 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I think that's the most likely 169 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 1: Canada on the right to win. Um but we'll see 170 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: um Fion had a scandal in which he was accused 171 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: of using public funds to pay his wife and his 172 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: adult children for fake jobs. That's that's a problem that's 173 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: usually not helpful right before an election. But as I said, 174 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: you can take the very thirty thousand foot bird's eye 175 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: view snapshot of what's going on politically in France and 176 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: then Europe and then America, and there's there's comparisons to 177 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: be drawn here, but you just have to be aware 178 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: of the differences and the political idiosyncrasies that are also 179 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: at play. On immigration, you have the French, who are, 180 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: of course, as a Western europe In society, they tend 181 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: to be very, very liberal in their attitudes about a 182 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: whole bunch of things. And I have to generalize there, 183 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: there's no way around that. I know, there's hard right 184 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: French nationalist people that don't want anyone to come in, 185 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: and there are people on the left who are communists 186 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: in France though, But in general, the French would have 187 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: an attitude of internationalism, of sophistication, and they think of themselves. 188 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: I've been to France many times. I mean they think 189 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: of themselves as a as a sophisticated culture with good reason. Uh. 190 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: And so they have a welcoming attitude to outsiders. But 191 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: they have a welcoming attitude as long as the outsiders 192 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: become French. That's always been the sticking point, that's always 193 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: been where there can be a problem. Um. And it's 194 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: interesting to see a European country that is going through 195 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: these issues and these problems, and then here in America 196 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: we think, oh, well, you know, Europe, We're we're we're 197 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: ahead of them on this. We still got time. We're America. 198 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: We can't even agree that America, that Americans should all 199 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: be in favor of a secure border. We can't. We 200 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: can't even agree that English should be the official language 201 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: in this country. A lot a lot of this is 202 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: still a contentious issue. You know. Every time I go 203 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: and vote, and I here in New York City and 204 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: I see the ballot and it has English, Spanish, definitely Mandarin, 205 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: and I think there was one other language on the ballot. 206 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: I'm like, what what We're No, we're not all We're 207 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: not all on the same page here, I guess in 208 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: a sense literally with English being the official language. Nope, 209 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: it's not. And these are discussions that we couldn't even 210 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 1: have before. They're having the discussion in France or having 211 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: discussion here in America. And radical Islam is one place 212 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: where it brings together security, border, sovereignty, rule of law, 213 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: and the culture of political correctness that prevents an open 214 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: and honest discussion of all of those things. People just 215 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: want to be able to talk about this stuff and 216 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: not lose their jobs, their reputations, be shunned, be kicked 217 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: out of the public square. That's what they would like 218 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: to see. In in France, if you have Fion Francois Field, 219 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm getting very fond to speak of the French. Uh. 220 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: If you have Francin Fiel, he wins, and then maybe 221 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: there'll be a right a right word tilt for that government. 222 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: It will be interesting to see what that means also 223 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: for the broader EU. Uh, it was rightly said. I 224 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: forget who said it that Angela Merkel was last year 225 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: National European Nationalisms Woman of the Year because people saw 226 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: what happened when you bring in a million refugees, especially 227 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: from one region of the world that does not easily 228 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: assimilate into Western European culture, does not speak the language. 229 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 1: There are problems. And you know who pays for those problems. 230 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: Not just the taxpayer, of course, that's problem. That's part one. 231 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: Part two are those who aren't able to live in 232 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: the more expensive parts of town, and so they share 233 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: their school rules now with with people who have a 234 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: bring a lot of problems. And it's not to be 235 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: inhumane or uncaring about it. I know, of course you 236 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: can always be accused of that. But if people want 237 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: to play that game, I say, why not just allow 238 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: anybody who wants to come into the country to come 239 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: into the country. Oh but but then I want to 240 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: pay no taxes because then I have no because if 241 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: we have no sovereignty, then the state has no real control. 242 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: And if the state's not going to have real control 243 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: over everybody else. They're not gonna have control over me 244 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: and my pocketbook and my property and my freedom. So 245 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: the whole thing begins to devolve very quickly unless you 246 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: have an established unless you have established borders, established rules 247 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: for who comes and goes, and also you're willing to 248 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: look at security threats based on what they are, not 249 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: what you might wish they were. In a leftist liberal 250 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: we are one world. We can all just dance, oh 251 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: the music. So that's we're getting. Um, that means I 252 00:14:56,160 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: gotta go into the next thing. Okay, fine. Right wing 253 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: French presidential candidate Marine le Pen spoke on the Paris attack, 254 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: which was exactly what we all thought it was from 255 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: the first moments that happened. A jihadist radicalized, a Muslim killed, 256 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: a killed, the police officer wounded, two others had had 257 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: a Kalashnikoff was firing at a police car. We it's 258 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: a it's amazing more people weren't killed, more police officers 259 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: weren't killed, given that clearly this individual did not have thankfully, 260 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: did not have any tactical proficiency and was not well 261 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: trained in terrorists terrorist trade craft. Um, but this is 262 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: just one of those one of those moments where you're 263 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: you mourn the loss of an officer and those fellow officers. 264 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: Hopefully we will recover quickly and you think about what 265 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: could be done to prevent the next one. Here's what 266 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: the nationalist candidate Marine le Pen said about this play 267 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: clip eighty nine. Please, my feeling is that nothing is 268 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: being done and our citizens are not safe. We need 269 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: a plan to fight Islamist terrorism with new measures and 270 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: with boarders, and to fight the ideology that is at 271 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: the root of all of this. Specifics on that would 272 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: be nice, because we've all heard for some time that 273 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: we need we need to do more about radical Islam. 274 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: I I wonder what Marine Lapan has in mind, especially 275 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: when you look at radicalization of those who are French 276 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: citizens and who were born in France, which is in 277 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: many cases what we've seen. Immigration control can only be 278 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: one piece of a much larger and very complicated puzzles. 279 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 1: So we'll see Tim and California on k E I B. 280 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: Welcome to Freedom Hunt Freestyle Friday. Good have you should? 281 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: We have values testing for immigrants and Tim Callum carrying 282 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: for US President at US Senate and US House. Best 283 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: major candidate t I M space k A. All right, 284 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: all right, all right, don't don't do that. I don't 285 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: like that. You can call and we can talk. But 286 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: this isn't this isn't the free advertising hour on the 287 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 1: Box Action show. UM. He asked a question which I 288 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: will answer. Can we have values testing for uh? Can 289 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: we have values testing for immigrants? We have had it 290 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: in the past. One thing that was particularly interesting, I 291 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: think about the recent discussions on radical Islam and extreme vetting, 292 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: a term the administration has used. President Trump has used 293 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: many times, UM, and that that people thought that, well, 294 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: you can't have an ideological test for entry in the 295 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: United States. That's unconstitutional. False. Actually, in fact, we've had 296 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: plenty of we have many cases or many instances in 297 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: the law previously immigration law of we don't want anarchists, 298 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: we don't want communists, we don't want people that are 299 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: seeking to overthrow the United States government. That seems reasonable, 300 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: don't you think. By the way, Donald Trump didn't specifically 301 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: endorse any candidate, of course, for the French election, but 302 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 1: he did tweet the following another terrorist attack in Paris, 303 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: the people of France will not take much more of this. 304 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: Will have a big effect on presidential election. I wonder 305 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: if that is true. Um, given the horrific terrorist attacks 306 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: that the French have suffered the last eighteen months, which 307 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: I've been talking to you about, I am ah not 308 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: sure that this most recent event will change many minds. 309 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: I know the timing of it, of course, is is 310 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 1: mere days from the election, and so timing does matter. 311 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: But already you'd have to assume that there are a 312 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 1: lot of people in France that are wondering when are 313 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: we're going to get a handle on this issue, and 314 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: what can we do so that we're not subject to 315 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: more of these kinds of attacks, especially if they're using 316 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 1: immigration as a means of entry, or the assiles coming 317 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: in to Greece and then Germany finding your way into France. 318 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: That's been the concern. All Right, we'll talk about some 319 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 1: other stuff. I gotta go to break. We'll be right back. 320 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Freedom Hut on an island of liberty, 321 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: where you're the party and it's full of fellow patriots. 322 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton kicks it off, team. I promise it's gonna 323 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: be plenty of real analysis, news everything from day and 324 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: also some fun stuff because it's Friday, and I therefore 325 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: cannot leave out that it is action movie. Quote Friday, 326 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: hit it action. We can kill it the movie, feel 327 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: the coast, and get together. Have a few left quote 328 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: free your mind Fridays, Act Fridays. If you want to 329 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: bring it to the action movie quote master eight four 330 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: four nine hundred to eight to five. Let's see what 331 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: you got. And of course we can always talk about 332 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 1: an action movie if you want as well, after you've 333 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: given me the quote, because that's going to happen. I've 334 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: been taking some notes on on holes in my action 335 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 1: gaps in my action movie quote knowledge. I'm gonna catch up, 336 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: don't you. Don't you worry those of you who are like, yeah, yeah, 337 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: you can always get me with some of the older stuff. 338 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: But you know, and Charles Bronson is also a weak 339 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: spot for me. I know, I know I need to 340 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: take care of that, but I'm working on it. One 341 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: note before we got lines lighting up here, left and right, 342 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: but I just wanted to say that, uh, this is today, 343 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: uh courtesy or and I'm sorry yesterday courtesy of producer 344 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: producer Amy um Uh becoming an Australian citizen. This f 345 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: NBC News is about to get tougher as a country 346 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: plans a major shake up of its immigration process, including 347 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: a new test of values. Oh my gosh. Prime Minister 348 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: Malcolm Turnbull on Thursday, By the way, I would just 349 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: all of you that are thinking right now, it's like 350 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go test out my Australian accent after hearing 351 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: this story. Australian accents are very recognizable. But I will 352 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: tell you, as somebody who has belly flopped on radio 353 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: trying them in the past, tough to do. You know 354 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: people that is oh good, I might you know and 355 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: like beyond that, and they really actually sound more Cockney 356 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: than Australian in terms of the accent um. But anyway, 357 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: Australian accents, you know, Australian accents very hard to pull off. 358 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: But becoming an Australian citizen, forget about the accent, is 359 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: difficult as well. They have a new values tests and 360 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has said that or is pushing 361 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: for rules, has announced rules, not pushing for that. You 362 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: have to live in Australia permanent too, have lived in 363 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: Australia for four years up from one before you can 364 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: apply for citizenship. Also, you he's raising the standard of 365 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: English required and that you have to also have a 366 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: civics test that judges whether people will accept quote Australian values. 367 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Australia is so racist. Oh gosh, what 368 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 1: am I gonna do? They're so racist in Australia. Good heavens. Wait, 369 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 1: we just need like Samantha b And we need the 370 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: Daily Show and we need John Oliver to talk about 371 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: how racist that racist the Australians are now with their tests. 372 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: It makes me so sad. Yeah, Australia is tightening up 373 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: the rules here for citizenship. They're gonna be tested on 374 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: knowledge of law and national symbols, and also they will 375 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: be asked questions that will assess how migrants have assimilated, 376 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: such as whether they send their children to school or 377 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 1: they have a job. You mean we're gonna start. They're 378 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: gonna start in week Look at that Freudian slip. You 379 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: mean they're gonna start picking people based on how quickly 380 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: and how effectively and how they can contribute. Because immigration 381 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: is supposed to benefit the citizens of the country already there. 382 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: It's not supposed to be a giant jobs program in 383 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: soup kitchen for the third World. Oh my gosh, I'll 384 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: strule so rightless. I'm just everyone I know who goes 385 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: to Australia loves it. And I don't even know if 386 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: I've ever met a mean Australian. I kind of like 387 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 1: all the Australians I've ever met. So you can generalize 388 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: in a nice way and people are okay with that. Yeah, 389 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: so I can say that I like all Australians. Um, 390 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can get I was saying 391 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: that Swedish people are lovely but not usually funny. I 392 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: don't know. I might get some angry Swedish emails. But see, 393 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: depends on the generalization you can you can get away with. 394 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: All right, every line is lit. So let's let's get 395 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: into some of these calls here. Who who was first? 396 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: Maggie and Mississippi on w b UV. Good to have you. 397 00:23:55,480 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Freedom Hut Shield time. Maggie. I have 398 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: a quick question for you, Yes, ma'am, we all know 399 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: that Obamacare has flopped, um, and now it's not even 400 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: considered Obamacare, it's the Affordable Care Act. Um. My question is, 401 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: would it have been better if he would not have 402 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: left it up to the state to expand medicaid for 403 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: those of us that can't afford the premiums because we worked, 404 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, part time jobs, and we can't really and 405 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: we get paid every two weeks, and we have all 406 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: the bills that we have to pay on top of 407 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: trying to pay for insurance. Would it have been better 408 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: if he would have expanded medicaid across the board instead 409 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 1: of leaving it up to the state he tried to. 410 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: That was the original law, Maggie. That was what the 411 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: Supreme Court in the Obamacare decision decided against the law. Originally, 412 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: the Obamacare law said everyone asked to expand medicaid, and 413 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court came back and said, no, that's overly 414 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: coercive to the states. It's a violation of the Tenth 415 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: Amendment because they were already getting federal funds and they 416 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: were told if you don't spend more of your money 417 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: or at least and it was gonna be a sliding 418 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 1: scale of more federal money and then it would phase 419 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: into more state money. So it's a slide of hand 420 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: going on as well. But if you didn't expand medicaid, 421 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: they were gonna pull all federal funds and the and 422 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: the Supreme said, you can't. You can't do that, right, 423 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: You can't have a a a partnership with states to 424 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,360 Speaker 1: provide healthcare for their residents who are also US citizens 425 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: and nneled to all the protections of federal law and 426 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: then be like, well, if you don't do what we say, 427 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 1: we're gonna pull all your federal funds on that, just 428 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: because remember that's a matter of policy, uh, not not 429 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: a question of say, enforcing federal criminal law. So they 430 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: that was where they So to answer your question, Obama 431 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: actually wanted to do that. Um. But I think what 432 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: you're getting at as well is that there are people 433 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: and this is this is that you don't who you 434 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 1: don't hear enough about. There are people who make too 435 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: much for a Medicaid expansion in their state and don't 436 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 1: get a subsidy for the Obamacare premiums they have to 437 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: pay because it's based on how much they make, and 438 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: they are paying subsidies that are really hurting them, hurting 439 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: their bottom line and their ability to pay their bills. Uh. 440 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: And they're paying it so they can subsidize the people 441 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: who are getting a subsidy. Uh. And we're talking about 442 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: people that are depending on the state and how they're 443 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: breaking down via income. But these are middle class working people, 444 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: so it really depends on where you are in the 445 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 1: you know, how far above the poverty line, or how 446 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: many times above the poverty line, a better way to 447 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: put it, are you, And that's what affects whether or 448 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 1: not you are getting a slightly better deal with Obamacare 449 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,719 Speaker 1: or terrible. Because if you're forced on do an Obamacare 450 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: plan and you're not getting a subsidy you're getting, you're 451 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,479 Speaker 1: getting a terrible deal, you know what I mean? Does 452 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: that make sense? Yes? Yes, yes, man. I make I 453 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: make a month, and I have tried for the Obamacare stuff, 454 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: and I've even tried for Medicaid, but of course, in 455 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: the state of Mississippi, Medicaid did not expand. Um. I 456 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: was formerly on Medicaid. I actually have. I've been a 457 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: cancer survivor. I'm twenty three years old. I've had two 458 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: brain tumors. Oh my gosh, Maggie. I'm I'm happy that 459 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: you're able to You're able to pull through. That's that's 460 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: uh my mind. Um well, uh, you both of them 461 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: by the time by the time I turned eight. I've 462 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: been in remission since two thousand and one. I've been 463 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: in remission for sixteen yearings, Oh god, I am not 464 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: able to get the medical attention that I need to 465 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: get that I'm supposed to get every year because I 466 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: cannot afford insurance. Well, this is this is, Maggie, this 467 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: is where a truly, a truly open market in healthcare 468 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: would mean that there would also be a pool for 469 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: I believe that most insurance would probably treat what you've 470 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: dealt with as I and I don't know. It depends 471 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: on the insurer and everything else, but it might be 472 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: considered a pre existing condition, or it might be what 473 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: would go into a high risk pool. Uh, and that 474 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: should be it should be very doable. But if you 475 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: allowed everybody to if you allowed everybody get the insurance 476 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: policy they'd want to get without having to pay for 477 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: all the extra stuff, then there would also be enough 478 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: political will and focus to do a high risk pool properly, 479 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: and then hopefully people that do have very serious medical 480 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: issues would be able to get the care they need. 481 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: But Maggie, I've I gotta leave it there for now, 482 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: But thank you for calling in and shields hie um 483 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: Mason in Ohio, w w V A good to have you. Hi, 484 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: Hi Buck, it's probably it's oh Nathan and a t 485 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: h A n okay close enough? Yeah, well I got 486 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: two things. Want a movie quote for you, if you 487 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: don't mind trying your knowledge. The last quote is, um, 488 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: if she stopped hooking and I stopped killing people? You 489 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: know what movie that's from? Um? No pay Back with 490 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: Mel Gibson. Uh yeah, I guess, I guess. Yeah, that's 491 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: an action movie. I saw it. I don't remember acceptingly 492 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: like it very much. But anyway, I heard Mel Gibson's 493 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: newest movie. By the way, hacksall Ridge is fantastic. People 494 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: I I trust say it's really good. I haven't seen you. 495 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it tonight. While when I bunked down 496 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,719 Speaker 1: for like some truck driver. But, um, my thing is, 497 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: you know how everybody's been complaining about Trump not releasing 498 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: his tax sports. What about the Congress and senators and 499 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: stuff like that? He who get paid? Correct me if 500 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: I'm wrong to get four hundred thousand a year? But 501 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: they make millions every year? Well no, no, no, I 502 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,959 Speaker 1: mean members of Congress. They don't make for them make 503 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: four hundred thousand. The president makes four hundred thousand dollars 504 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: a year remembers of Congress that it changes, but it's 505 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: something like a hundred and seventy I think, depending and 506 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: you if you're on a committees, I think you make 507 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: a little more. But it's public record. Um. But they 508 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: did exempt themselves from Obamacare, by the way, which that 509 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: we we should have I mean, you know, metaphorically speaking, 510 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: the American people should have been torches and pitchforks over 511 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: that one. We should have been really upset. But that 512 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: was not what happened. So, because if Obamacare is fine 513 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: and Nancy Pelosi says it's good health care and it's 514 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: great and everyone's gonna love it and passed to see 515 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: what's in it, they should have to live with it. Two. 516 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: But they did not. They exempted themselves from it. So yeah, 517 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: I had to take a job of driving truck, leave 518 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: my family with three little kids at home, be on 519 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 1: the road to three weeks that time, just to make 520 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: a living to pay for instrumance for them. Yeah, you're 521 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: you're you're paying their salaries. But they don't. You know, 522 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: we don't hold Congress accountable enough. Unfortunately a lot of 523 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: people don't like Congress but like their individual congressmen or congresswoman, 524 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: and I think that's uh, that can often be very shortsighted. Um. 525 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: But Nathan Att, thank you for thank you for calling in. 526 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Hi'll high his point, by the way, 527 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: about how they don't disclose their taxes, I couldn't little do. 528 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure they're financial disclosures that people on the hill 529 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: have to do. I know there are for some of 530 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: the federal agencies, but I gotta look into that. Um 531 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: eight four to five, anything you want to talk about. 532 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 1: Lines are open Freestyle Friday, and we'll be back right 533 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: after this break. Lines are lit Team buck Um. Also, 534 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: by the way, if you have not already, please go 535 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: check out buck Sex and com. Site is up and running. 536 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: I'm writing, We've got the team in here posting throughout 537 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: the day. Uh, and we're gonna be collecting emails there 538 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: to put out a newsletter, Freedom Hunt Newsletter. It's gonna 539 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: take us some time to get that off the ground, 540 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: but we're working on it. And eventually, yes, there will 541 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: be merchandise T shirts and fun stuff like that. And 542 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: I can't do all that without introducing you all to 543 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: the wonderful character not as commy bear. Some of you 544 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: listening to like what's that? You could google it, but 545 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: you'll you'll you'll find out that will happen on the 546 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: show soon. We're just we're just slow. We're slowly making 547 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: sure that everybody gets to know what we do day 548 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: and day in and day out in the Hut before 549 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: we get really things get really crazy in here. Um. 550 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: All right, Ryan in Virginia? Great, have you sir? Thanks 551 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: for calling in. Yeah, I've got a movie quote for you. Alright, Hey, 552 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: what are we gonna do now? Man? Oh? Aliens? Obviously 553 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: that's Bill Paxton may he arrested Peace. Aliens fantastic movie. 554 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: I take it as both action and sci fi. I 555 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:22,239 Speaker 1: believe it is cross category. One of that might be 556 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: like top ten action movies for of all time for him, 557 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: my my brothers, who are action true action movie at Icionado's. 558 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: Did we lose him? He left? Oh? Okay, by thanks 559 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: for hanging out though, UM, I guess you I'm up. Uh. 560 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: Just because we hit the bell doesn't mean you have 561 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: to go. Um. I think they would agree with that. 562 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: Aliens is probably is top ten action movie territory. But 563 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: I think at some point, maybe in the summer, we'll 564 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: switch over, we'll do like comedy comedy quotes or something too. 565 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: But for now we're staying with action movie because because 566 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: action movies are all about America. Yeah, you think about 567 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: action movies, it's America. But aliens or in this case, 568 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: I suppose a a planet far far away in a 569 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: galaxy no one's ever visited, because you know, there's these 570 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: aliens that are spitting acid at people and it's pretty nasty. 571 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: Aliens is great, though Alien three not so good. I 572 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: think there was even Alien four, And there's a movie 573 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: Predator Versus Aliens, which you would think based on the 574 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: excellence of Aliens and the fantastic Predator, Predator to not 575 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: so good with Danny Glover, but Predator one phenomenal movie. 576 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: But the the mashup did not work. I find most 577 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: mashups do not work. That Superman versus Batman thing was 578 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: like a form of torture. It was completely unexped and 579 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: I love superhero stuff. I like, I you know, brings 580 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: me back to uh. I was gonna say it brings 581 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: back from a kid. That's total nonsense. I like superhero movies. 582 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: Right now, I'm not that's right, I'm not ashamed of 583 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: I love superhero movies, but some of them are not 584 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: so good. Um, Kelly in Florida on the I Heart App. 585 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: What do you got hey? How you doing good? Sir? 586 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 1: How are you doing all right? Um? You're ranging up 587 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: the point of people saying if I'm com pasonal for 588 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 1: the h Trump down as far as the letting illegally 589 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: and are not illegal, but the immigrants from other countries 590 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: theory and all that, Um, the competation doesn't cover them. 591 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: Compet No, And Kelly, this is a huge problem because 592 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: when you have these judges, the circuit court judges that 593 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: are saying that foreigners have the right to challenge their 594 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: ability to come into this country. That's that's establishing rights 595 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: for non citizens that non citizens just do not have. 596 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: The president can exclude any class of non citizens from 597 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: entry into this country for any national security reason he 598 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: or she deems. That is that, that is just a fact, 599 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: that is the law, and they are undermining the law 600 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: with that and giving rights to not but that you 601 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 1: also see this, Kelly, with some of the radical transparency 602 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,720 Speaker 1: uh WIKI League's folks and the Snowdon the Snowdon crowd, 603 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: they say, oh, well look whatward, look look at this 604 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: program we're gonna talk about or look at that disclosure 605 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about. And it's like, look, if foreigners 606 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: don't have constitutional rights when it comes to privacy. So 607 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: I don't really I don't really care what's going on 608 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: in the rest of the world. Right. I agree with 609 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 1: you a percent on that, And that's why I was 610 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: saying that. You know, that's a somebody said, let's unconstitutional 611 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: not to let them in. They have no constitutional rights. 612 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: They're not America. Yeah, you know, it's the people of 613 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: the United States. You know, it doesn't say we the 614 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: people of the world. It says we the people of 615 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 1: the United States. These are our rights, not everybody's right. Yeah, 616 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: I know. But one of the ways that the progressive 617 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: the progressive left undermines sovereignty in this country is by 618 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: extending extending the rights of citizenship to everybody. Because then 619 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: what's the point, right, and what's the difference? Another question? 620 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: But Kelly Shield time, and thank you very much for 621 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: calling in. Um let's get uh well, actually I'm gonna go, 622 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: well window, what do you have here? Blaine in Arizona 623 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: on koh Why Blade, how you doing good? How are 624 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: you doing about good? Sir, I just wanted to ask 625 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: your opinion. I don't know if you heard about it ever. 626 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,719 Speaker 1: It was a conspiracy theory that was kind of going 627 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: around during the election. It was called pizza Gate all 628 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: around the Podesta brothers, and yeah, I suppose. I wonder 629 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: if you hadn't done any research into it, if you 630 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: thought there was any kind of mar behind every everything. 631 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: Everything I've seen about it is that it is. It 632 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: is held up as the paramount example of completely fake 633 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: news without any substantiation whatsoever. So I if I see 634 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: anything else, um, you know, I would certainly be willing 635 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 1: to talk about it. But everything I've seen is that 636 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: it's is that it's told on I think even the 637 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: guy who went in and like shot the ceiling or whatever, 638 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: and the he's even been like, yeah I was wrong. Sorry, 639 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: my bad, a little late for that. But um, yeah, no, 640 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: there's been I've seen nothing with that at all. Um. 641 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen it on on a on a 642 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: norm Have you ever seen any actual news site that's 643 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: covered it as anything other than a conspiracy? I haven't. 644 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: I know Ben Swamp was the reporter that covered it, 645 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 1: he was part of it. Fired after covering that. Yeah, 646 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, Ben Swama that that 647 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: doesn't it doesn't sound like it doesn't sound like there's 648 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: much substantiation there. So but Blaine, Oh yeah, hey man Blaine. 649 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: Any questions, any good faith questions, always welcome here in 650 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: the hut. Man. So, I appreciate you giving me a ring, 651 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: and I hope you have a fantastic week. And she'ld 652 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 1: tie um. We're gonna be joined by some fun guests 653 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 1: coming up here later on the show talking more politics. Oh, 654 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: there's a Vanity Fair piece on Chelsea Clinton. I'm gonna 655 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: have to get into that one. Vanity. Oh, it's a 656 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: fancy but you know you're gonna enjoy it. You're gonna 657 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 1: joy trust me, and uh we'll get to that. The 658 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: Freedom Hunt rocks online too. You can hang out with 659 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: Team Buck any time. Plus get bucks the latest news 660 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: and analysis. Go to Buck Sexton dot com, buck sextup 661 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 1: dot com. That's Sexton dot com. Shields High. Welcome back, everybody. 662 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: We've got Michael Goodwin on the line. He is a 663 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 1: New York Post columnist and a Fox News contributor. Michael 664 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 1: great to have you, sir, Thank you Buck. Uh So, 665 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 1: let's talk a bit about the the upcoming weekend in politics. Here, 666 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: I've got the political piece in front of me. It 667 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: says the White House is making demands that that are 668 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: disrupting the shutdown negotiations for the government. Uh, where is 669 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,479 Speaker 1: this all going? Well, look, Uh, it's hard. It's hard 670 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: to know because so much of what's happening is being 671 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: done in secret. Um. And it's clear that there is 672 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: a lot of division within the Republican Party, I think 673 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: particularly in the House, but also between the House and 674 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: the Senate, and involving the White House, probably in both. 675 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm struck by the fact that this talk 676 00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,800 Speaker 1: of trying to bring back Obamacare for the peel vote 677 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,439 Speaker 1: seems to be focused almost exclusively on the House. And 678 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: the last time, the Senate warned the House, we won't 679 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 1: even consider the bill that you were talking about. So 680 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that anything is going to get done 681 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,320 Speaker 1: in the short term. Um. And look, this all plays 682 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: into Democratic hands. This all makes the Republicans look as 683 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: though they can't govern. So I think they really ought 684 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: to get their act together pretty soon. And certainly the 685 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: President wants to be able to point to something within 686 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: the first hundred days. But the clock is ticking. Trump 687 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,399 Speaker 1: said today, according to the Associated Press here, that he's 688 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: going to release a tax reform package next week that 689 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 1: he says will be bigger, I believe than any tax 690 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: cut ever, and it will be a massive tax cut 691 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: that will be for individuals and businesses. That seems like 692 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: a lot. Do you have any insight into what is 693 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: this going to happen? Well, look, they may release something, 694 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: but I don't know. Again, I'm sort of confused by 695 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: this because just recently minution the Surgery Secretary said they 696 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to get it done by August. Now 697 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,759 Speaker 1: I guess he meant passage. But if they're releasing it 698 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,839 Speaker 1: now and it's so great, you would think they would 699 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 1: be able to pass it by August. So this seems 700 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,280 Speaker 1: to me to be mixed signals on taxes. I think 701 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: that the look, the bigger it is, the harder it 702 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: is because there's gonna be so many objections. And some 703 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: people have made a very smart idea, I think, which 704 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: is that do the corporate as a stand alone and 705 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 1: for the purpose, for the reason that there's more agreement 706 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 1: that the corporate rate has to be cut, and it's 707 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,840 Speaker 1: on the personal rate and all the personal exemptions where 708 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: you run into the trouble of of not just among Democrats, 709 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,720 Speaker 1: but among Republicans too. So I think this this idea 710 00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,680 Speaker 1: that everything in Washington has to be big. Now, I 711 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 1: mean all the bills are omnimbus omnibus bills. They're huge, 712 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: They are hundreds, if not thousands of pages long. I 713 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,919 Speaker 1: really think that if Washington is going to simplify its 714 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 1: government and make it more accessible and understandable to the 715 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: average American, they've got to do these things invite size 716 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: because another debate over taxes that involves the corporate versus 717 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: the personal income tax is going to become so confusing 718 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 1: one will be held hostage to another. And same with immigration, 719 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,799 Speaker 1: all those different parts in the immigration bills that they 720 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: keep trying to pass. I really think they would make 721 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 1: things easier for themselves and and keep the public engaged 722 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 1: if they would do them in invite sized portions that 723 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:49,160 Speaker 1: are easier to understand. Yeah, I think the incremental approach 724 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 1: on a lot of these issues would also would show 725 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: would show that there is movement, It would allow people 726 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: understand what is happening, and it also would prevent what 727 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 1: I what I think happened with the health the first 728 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,240 Speaker 1: attempt at healthcare, which was there was a lot of 729 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: talking out of both sides of different politicians, mouths there, 730 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 1: you know, oh, we have to do this because of reconciliation. Well, 731 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: actually no, it doesn't have to be through that mechanism 732 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: because of reconciliation. Well you have to do it, and 733 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: then we'll do taxes. No, we're gonna do you know. 734 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: There there And also there was so much that was 735 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: being changed at one point in time that it gave 736 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 1: a lot of people, I think, uh, concerns about what 737 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: the healthcare bill would have looked like how they passed it. 738 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: And also you couldn't really get much of a focus 739 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,800 Speaker 1: and what what were they selling. They weren't selling repeal 740 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: and replace. They were selling a phase one of three 741 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: approach to get something done that that just isn't compelling, right. 742 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: And and look, I I think Paul Ryan really damaged 743 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: himself in that process. He apparently told the president he 744 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 1: would have the votes. The president accepted that, and then 745 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: he didn't. And from my reading of what was going on, 746 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: buck at the very end, they weren't even close to 747 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 1: the to sixteen or the two eighteen. I forget how 748 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: many they needed at that point depending on the seats 749 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,319 Speaker 1: are open. But they weren't close. I mean, it wasn't 750 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,879 Speaker 1: just the Freedom Caucus, because as they apparently tried to 751 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,760 Speaker 1: bring in more members of the Freedom Caucus, they lost 752 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,920 Speaker 1: some others that they had already had and they were 753 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: already counting on. So they may have had they may 754 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: have been twenty votes short. Now once it looks weak, 755 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,439 Speaker 1: people are going to abandon it. But they never got 756 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 1: within that that short, narrow window where everybody felt that 757 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 1: they had to stampede to before it because they would 758 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 1: be left at the station otherwise. And so I I 759 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,800 Speaker 1: think Paul Ryan proved to be not a good leader 760 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: on a crucial issue. So I don't know what has 761 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 1: changed that a he would be able to do healthcare now, 762 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: or be that he'll be able to deliver a tax package. 763 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 1: We're speaking to Michael Goodwin, New York Post Columus Fox 764 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,799 Speaker 1: News contributor. Michael, we talked about at the start of 765 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: the show French elections for president on Sunday. Donald Trump 766 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,400 Speaker 1: has waited with a sweet not for a specific candidate, 767 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 1: but just tying the recent terrorist attack in Paris to 768 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,919 Speaker 1: an impact on the French election. What are your thoughts 769 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 1: on all that. Well, I think he's right. I think 770 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,720 Speaker 1: it um. He said that it probably will help lepen 771 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:17,240 Speaker 1: In a in an interview with the Associated Press today, 772 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 1: again without endorsing her, but saying that she was the 773 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: strongest on borders and immigration. So it it. You know, 774 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 1: Bucket reminds me of two other things. First is Brexit, 775 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: and second is of course Trump himself being elected. And 776 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 1: in both cases are all three cases. Now what you 777 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: have is an establishment, including the media, the government and 778 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 1: big business. No, no, no, don't do it. Don't do it, 779 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 1: don't do it. And yet meanwhile, I think people in 780 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 1: the street, uh, in Brexit, they did not like the 781 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,400 Speaker 1: economic system, they did not like the immigration system, so 782 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 1: they wanted to leave the European Union. Then they're going 783 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 1: to get their wish. We got Trump in the United States, 784 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,839 Speaker 1: despite the great advice of all the sages and both 785 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,760 Speaker 1: parties and the media of course, in big business even 786 00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 1: and and in France the same thing with lepin I mean, 787 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 1: she has been talking for a long time about immigration 788 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,840 Speaker 1: and terrorism and the latest attack in Paris, the assassination 789 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: of the police officer and the wounding of two others, 790 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 1: just proves that the French have not been able to 791 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 1: control this. I mean they are operating under a state 792 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 1: of emergency since the Battaklan slaughter, which I believe was 793 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 1: November of um if I'm correct, So they still are 794 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:41,400 Speaker 1: having these attacks despite a state of emergency, almost a 795 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 1: permanent state of emergency. And just one more quick point. 796 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: Virtually every time after one of these attacks in Europe, 797 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: as has happened in the United States, we find out 798 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 1: later that there was some surveillance of the person they 799 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: were known to uh the intelligence or police authorities, and 800 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: that was true in the attack on the police officers 801 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: in Paris. They this guy was described as a known extremist. Well, 802 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: you know that that is a knock on the government 803 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,760 Speaker 1: and that may well come back to play a big 804 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,320 Speaker 1: part in the election. On Sunday, one more equipment for 805 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 1: your Michael, before I let you get to start with 806 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 1: your weekend. If you if you have to give a 807 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: grade now, you can go one out of ten or 808 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: you can go you know ABC D for the administration 809 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:29,399 Speaker 1: on policy in its first hundred days, what is it? Well, 810 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 1: I gave him. I gave President Trump a B average 811 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 1: for the first fifty days. UM. I think the hundred 812 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: is no better, and maybe it's a b minus um 813 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,239 Speaker 1: that was before the healthcare debacle and everything. I think 814 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,800 Speaker 1: the President has hit a wall and he's got to 815 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 1: in its. Essentially, it's Congress and he's got to figure 816 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 1: out how to make things, how to get things through Congress. 817 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,279 Speaker 1: It's a Republican Congress. I think the great achievements gorsetch 818 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 1: uh and the sense that he is really trying to 819 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 1: fulfill his campaign promises. But he he needs I think 820 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 1: he needs a stronger team around him. I think he's shorthanded. 821 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: I think the in fighting has made it more difficult. 822 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: So I think the second fifty days have probably not 823 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 1: been as good as the first fifty. And sorry, I 824 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 1: know I said last one, but I just wanted to 825 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: Bannon because I know you wrote about Bannon recently. You 826 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,320 Speaker 1: think he's going to stay? Uh, Look, I think he 827 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 1: should stay. I don't know what the President is going 828 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 1: to do. When I spoke to the President about it, 829 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 1: he was certainly it certainly had the gave me and 830 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 1: many other people the impression that he was not long 831 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,520 Speaker 1: for the for that world. But I think Bannon should stay. 832 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 1: I think that there's nobody else quite like him in 833 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,320 Speaker 1: this White House that represents the segment of the Trump 834 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:46,760 Speaker 1: constituency that Bannon does. So I think losing Bannon would 835 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 1: would weaken the president among the very many of the 836 00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 1: very people who elected him. Michael Good with New York 837 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 1: Post columist, Fox News contributor. Check out his latest on 838 00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: either Fox News dot com or The New York Post 839 00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 1: dot com. Michael, thanks so much for your time, have 840 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,919 Speaker 1: a great weekend. Always a pleasure back. Thank you, eight 841 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 1: four eight to five team. Are are you not entertained? Maximus? 842 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:10,840 Speaker 1: I mean, let's see what you got on the action quotes. 843 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,520 Speaker 1: Come on, bring it or anything or serious policy matters. 844 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,720 Speaker 1: And just because Fridays, I mean we can't have a 845 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 1: serious conversation. We always do all of the above. Let's 846 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 1: talk about free speech. That's always fun. Right after this break, 847 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:26,720 Speaker 1: I'll be back taking a mulligan here for a second. 848 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:32,200 Speaker 1: That earlier caller who asked me about disclosures of taxes 849 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,800 Speaker 1: for those in Congress essentially do why why do members 850 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 1: of Congress disclose their tax returns? If it's why, why 851 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 1: can't we see that they're all demanding it from President Trump? 852 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 1: And the answer is very few at least from the 853 00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:47,000 Speaker 1: most recent McClatchy breakdown of this that I could see online. 854 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,720 Speaker 1: Very few members of Congress do it. Vast majority, hundreds 855 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 1: of them do not disclose their taxes. Uh. And now 856 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 1: I think maybe it was I have that that's the 857 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 1: most recent year I could find in the break but 858 00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure it hasn't changed. So yeah, members of Congress 859 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 1: do not disclose your tax returns. We should ask why. 860 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 1: I I think they should. If it's so important for 861 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: the president members of Congress, why not? What do they 862 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 1: have the high what's the problem? I think you should 863 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 1: put it in there. So I do think that's an interesting, 864 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: interesting point that the gentleman made. I just got caught 865 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 1: on the the actual salaries that they make, which is really, oh, 866 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:25,880 Speaker 1: how how much? Let me let me find out right 867 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,480 Speaker 1: out how much do members of Congress make? And I 868 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,880 Speaker 1: will tell you right now it is. I was close 869 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy four thousand year. I think I said 870 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 1: a hundred and seventy eight thousand. So there you go. Bamn. 871 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,960 Speaker 1: Even when I think I'm not right, I'm there's a 872 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: good chance I'm right, or at least close to it. 873 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 1: Berkeley the throw Down with culture looks like it's gonna happen. 874 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: You got the Berkeley chancellor making a statement on this 875 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 1: one MS cultures announcement that she intends to come to 876 00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 1: this campus on April without regard for the fact that 877 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 1: we do not have a protectable venue available on that 878 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 1: date is of grave concerns. Last night, I asked my 879 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 1: staff to look beyond the usual venues we use for 880 00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 1: large public gatherings. Fortunately, that expanded search identified and appropriate 881 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 1: protectable venue that is available on the afternoon of May second. Um. 882 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,640 Speaker 1: But Culter doesn't want to go on that day. I 883 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 1: think also school is done, so they that's that's a 884 00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 1: part of this as well. So oh wait, well, you 885 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 1: don't have to listen to me. Listen to and I 886 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 1: cannot impose arbitrary, um and harassing restrictions on the exercise 887 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,359 Speaker 1: of a constitutional right. I don't happen to be available 888 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 1: on May second to pay the hundreds of thousands of 889 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 1: dollars in rescheduled rebooked hotel rooms, flights for me, my security, 890 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: my guests. UM has been SENTI fox required to reschedule randomly. 891 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 1: She's making a very good point here. Why that's that's nonsense. 892 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,880 Speaker 1: This is pretending that they're not changing the game on 893 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 1: her when they clearly are. Uh, they're they're they're acting 894 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 1: like they're offering a venue for her, and they are 895 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 1: not um Or rather, they're acting like they're trying to 896 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,520 Speaker 1: accommodate free speech, but they're not. But you look around 897 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,799 Speaker 1: and the level of stupidity on this issue it is. 898 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:29,799 Speaker 1: It should be mortifying to all Democrats how dumb the 899 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 1: progressive left is on free speech, or really, forget about dumb. 900 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,360 Speaker 1: They're they're opposed to it. We're beyond they don't understand 901 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: their hypocrisy on this issue of speech suppression too. They 902 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:46,719 Speaker 1: are actively pro suppression of speech that they know. This 903 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 1: isn't that they don't get it or there's something they miss. 904 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:54,959 Speaker 1: They are for the suppression of free speech. And that 905 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 1: is troubling. So, I mean, you have the Washington Post 906 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,680 Speaker 1: a headline here. I couldn't even believe this when I 907 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,359 Speaker 1: saw it. Sometimes the lefty papers on this stuff are 908 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:09,360 Speaker 1: so dumb that I worry that I'm reading a hoax account. 909 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,120 Speaker 1: This is real, though this is a verified Washington Post account. 910 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,800 Speaker 1: Here's the headline. Berkeley gave birth to the free speech 911 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 1: movement in the nineteen sixties. Now conservatives are demanding it 912 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:27,880 Speaker 1: include them. How is that a headline? Conservatives are demanding 913 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 1: it include them? Well, yeah, of course they are. You 914 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 1: can't have a free speech movement unless it is for 915 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,919 Speaker 1: free speech Washington Post. I mean, this is the Democracy 916 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 1: Dies in Darkness paper. You'd think that they would be 917 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,920 Speaker 1: charging alongside conservatives up the hill on this one, but no, 918 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:53,319 Speaker 1: they are most certainly not. And you even have I'm 919 00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 1: trying to to pull up the specific tweeters. I mere 920 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,480 Speaker 1: I believe it was. I wanted to say al Gore, 921 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 1: but that's not right. It is where did he? Where 922 00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,280 Speaker 1: did he go? Well, as I said to, the upside 923 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 1: of free speech policies on campus is that young people, 924 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,400 Speaker 1: a lot of them, I think, are quietly realizing that 925 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: the left is insane. So that's a good thing. Oh yeah, 926 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,320 Speaker 1: Howard Dean, this is what I was looking for. Former 927 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 1: chairman of the d n C Howard Dean. Hate speech 928 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:24,879 Speaker 1: is not protected by the First Amendment. Um Uh. This 929 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,840 Speaker 1: is somebody who is at one point was a likely 930 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:35,640 Speaker 1: nominee for Democrat Democrat presidential candidate. Um. And it's amazing 931 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,080 Speaker 1: these these people are willing to throw speech under the 932 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,279 Speaker 1: under the bus so quickly they're willing to abandon free 933 00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,680 Speaker 1: speech principles, and they do it openly. I mean, this 934 00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 1: is somebody who was going to be you know, thought 935 00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:53,319 Speaker 1: he was going to be president. Yeah, it's uh, you know, 936 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,760 Speaker 1: hate speech. This is how the conversation goes. Hate speech 937 00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 1: is not free speech. But who gets to the term 938 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 1: and what hate speeches? Shut up, hateful fascist or I'll 939 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,399 Speaker 1: punch you. It's not supposed to be like that. That's 940 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 1: not how this goes, uh the determination. This is why, 941 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,360 Speaker 1: by the way, I oppose hate crime laws in general, 942 00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,319 Speaker 1: crimes are crimes. Hate crimes are not crimes, meaning that 943 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,720 Speaker 1: there's nothing different about a hate crime than a crime crime. 944 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 1: If you attack somebody because you don't like their religion 945 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,440 Speaker 1: or the color of their skin, you have attacked a 946 00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 1: human beings should be punished for that because the problem 947 00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 1: is that, sure, you use the emotional impulse that we 948 00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 1: all have to want to punish, and maybe as a 949 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 1: sentencing enhancement in some instances, I could see that it 950 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,279 Speaker 1: because because it comes into men's ray, the state of 951 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,439 Speaker 1: mind of the attacker. But the problem with hate crime 952 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,480 Speaker 1: legislation is that they do try to extend it to 953 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:46,359 Speaker 1: non crimes, meaning that all of a sudden, now, uh, 954 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 1: you'll have a a squastika made of toilet paper. This 955 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 1: is a real case in a school, or a Koran 956 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 1: flushed in a toilet. And over a shocking number of 957 00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 1: these are self induced hate crimes, meaning or they're they're 958 00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,880 Speaker 1: false I guess you call them false flag hate crimes 959 00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,720 Speaker 1: where the person is doing it pretending to be hateful 960 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,719 Speaker 1: towards the group, is actually from that group or is 961 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 1: sympathetic to that group, and it's just trying to quote 962 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:16,839 Speaker 1: raise awareness by a fake hate crime. Um so by 963 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:21,080 Speaker 1: by creating the perception that this is a bigger problem 964 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 1: than it is, which any normal person would stop and think. 965 00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,279 Speaker 1: Hold on, if I have to fake something to make 966 00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,440 Speaker 1: it seem like it's more common than it is, maybe 967 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,319 Speaker 1: it's not that common. Maybe I should find something else 968 00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 1: to raise awareness about. But they are openly in favor 969 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:45,320 Speaker 1: of suppressing speech now and it is just appalling. Um 970 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,920 Speaker 1: And when I say they, I don't mean random internet bots. 971 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the leaders of the Democratic Party. Alright, 972 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 1: Tom in California k f n Y movie quote, what 973 00:55:55,120 --> 00:56:00,719 Speaker 1: do you got fields? Shield side? Tom? Here we go Uh, 974 00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,120 Speaker 1: A lot of people go through life doing things badly. 975 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 1: Racing is important to men who do it well. When 976 00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 1: you're racing, it's life. Anything that happens before or after 977 00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:20,239 Speaker 1: is just waiting days of thunder. No m on Laman's 978 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:25,319 Speaker 1: v one Steve McQueen. Another one of the older movie 979 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:30,120 Speaker 1: don't even was that an action movie? Is that it's 980 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,720 Speaker 1: hard to stay in your seat when you're watching that movie. 981 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:38,320 Speaker 1: In fact, that was the first one that they really Tom, 982 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 1: You're a good man and a patriot, and I we 983 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 1: might have to throw the flag on this one, a 984 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 1: movie about car racing. I mean, is there an explosion 985 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,840 Speaker 1: that's not vehicular induced or a gun that is fired? 986 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 1: At some point there was explosions, but the only flag 987 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,600 Speaker 1: is a checkered flag buck, all right. I mean, look, 988 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 1: I I appreciate the effort in the time, Tom, but 989 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if a racing movie 990 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 1: technically falls under the action the action nomenclature. I'm just 991 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to keep it real here and I'm 992 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,040 Speaker 1: not I'm not sure we can sneak that one in, 993 00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 1: but we'll give it to you today because it's Friday 994 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 1: and we like you Tom, thank you for calling in 995 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 1: Shield ti UM eight four four nine hundred buck eight 996 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,720 Speaker 1: four four nine to eight to five. We'll talk some 997 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 1: politics with my friend Vince Colinis in the Daily Caller 998 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:23,000 Speaker 1: in a few minutes here, uh and uh, we'll get 999 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 1: into that. And then also, oh, yeah, that Chelsea Clinton. 1000 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna have so much fun with Chelsea Clinton article. Oh, 1001 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,880 Speaker 1: it's gonna be fantastic, get excited about that. And also 1002 00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,800 Speaker 1: talking a bit about Venezuela, What's would be pretty intense. 1003 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. He's an x c I, A 1004 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 1: officer who knows how to outsmart the enemies of liberty 1005 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:48,040 Speaker 1: have very particular set of skills. Buck Sexton with America. Now, 1006 00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,960 Speaker 1: Team your mission, should you choose to accept it, call 1007 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 1: the Freedom Hunt Operations Center nine hundred buck make contact 1008 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:03,000 Speaker 1: the Leisure under Hostile Surveillance eight to a to five. 1009 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,320 Speaker 1: All right, Team Buck, welcome back. We have our friend 1010 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,960 Speaker 1: Vince Colonie on the line. He is the Daily Callers 1011 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,440 Speaker 1: Editor in chief, the e I C over at the 1012 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,360 Speaker 1: d C. Good to have you, Vince. Nice again, but 1013 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 1: thank you. So you had the head of Homeland Security, 1014 00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,920 Speaker 1: General Kelly and Attorney General Jeff Sessions talking today about 1015 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:28,200 Speaker 1: MS thirteen. I know you're following this. What's the plan? 1016 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 1: What are they saying for dealing with this incredibly violent 1017 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:36,120 Speaker 1: gang that is still plaguing this country. Well, it's kind 1018 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,640 Speaker 1: of amazing that a problem that's been seemingly festering for years, 1019 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,439 Speaker 1: that nobody has really publicly said much about MS thir Team, 1020 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden that you've got the 1021 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,640 Speaker 1: FBI placing ms R Team members on the most wanted list. 1022 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,080 Speaker 1: You have both Jeff Sessions and General Kelly standing sort 1023 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 1: of immunity that not only are they trying to get 1024 00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,880 Speaker 1: control of the border, but a rampant MS thir Team problem, 1025 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,800 Speaker 1: and that problems appears to be not only infecting sanctuary 1026 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,439 Speaker 1: city areas, but just for of general population areas around 1027 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:04,520 Speaker 1: the country. I'm in Washington, d C. And I remember 1028 00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,680 Speaker 1: as as as late as last week that there was 1029 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 1: an M S Thirteam gang member on the loose somewhere 1030 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,840 Speaker 1: between Maryland, D C. In Virginia, and there are some 1031 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,480 Speaker 1: truly violent crimes being committed. There was a there was 1032 00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 1: I believe it was in Lynchburg, Virginia, about two weeks ago. 1033 00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 1: There was an MS THAR team attack that resulted in 1034 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,120 Speaker 1: a young man's body being left on the road and 1035 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 1: just completely just destroyed. The body itself was ceremonial ritually 1036 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 1: ceremonially from it and in vicious, vicious ways and left roadside. 1037 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,800 Speaker 1: And you know, it's caused as a lot of consternation 1038 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 1: I think among local communities that are affected by it. 1039 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,240 Speaker 1: But it's the kind of thing that deserves much more attention, 1040 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 1: especially because they represent sort of a real, like real 1041 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,320 Speaker 1: threat of people who are in the United States already, 1042 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,120 Speaker 1: and not just some sort of and not just like 1043 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 1: the terror threat which ebbs and flows in terms of 1044 00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,560 Speaker 1: it's a very but you know, Mstar Team causing real 1045 00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 1: violence in the United States. Now you're seeing the commitment 1046 01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:02,840 Speaker 1: from sub administration to take it on. I was gonna 1047 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:07,920 Speaker 1: ask you about that the commitment, because establishing a focus 1048 01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,320 Speaker 1: on the prosecutorial side in and of itself will have 1049 01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 1: ramifications and could help begin to dismantle and destroy this 1050 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 1: group as as a as a as an organized crime entity. 1051 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,920 Speaker 1: But have they gotten any specifics of policy beyond that? 1052 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I know, so they're gonna be tightening up 1053 01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:30,080 Speaker 1: the border, are they working on task forces, are they 1054 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 1: going to be implementing anything beyond just we're coming after you. 1055 01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:35,720 Speaker 1: It's I mean, so far, what I've what I've seen 1056 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 1: or heard is well, they're going after MS thir team. 1057 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,360 Speaker 1: Do we have any sense of how Well, again, the 1058 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:43,640 Speaker 1: Most Wanted List edition, I think it's one piece of 1059 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 1: evidence in terms of you know, the f B I 1060 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,919 Speaker 1: has to make sort of a judgment call about where 1061 01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,520 Speaker 1: they place people in the most Wanted the list, in 1062 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 1: which priority they give to them. In their beginnings, they 1063 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,040 Speaker 1: can we give utmost priority to some of these M. 1064 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:57,840 Speaker 1: S thirteaen gang members who are in the United States. UM. 1065 01:00:57,880 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 1: I think the other component, as you mentioned, is definitely 1066 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:04,160 Speaker 1: immigration enforcement, and they just see it that that if 1067 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:08,120 Speaker 1: you know, with with lax immigration enforcement, that obviously gets 1068 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,640 Speaker 1: bad actors who come in in those vehicles. And time 1069 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 1: and time again we've heard sort of the countercry from 1070 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,560 Speaker 1: the left which is that you know, if you you 1071 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,960 Speaker 1: can't just consider all legals bad people, Well, no, of 1072 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,480 Speaker 1: course not. But if they weren't here illegally, that particular 1073 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,960 Speaker 1: action would have taken place. These vicious crimes that we've 1074 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 1: seen um at the hands of illegal in the princes 1075 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,520 Speaker 1: in some cases certainly would not have occurred in the 1076 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 1: United States, have they not been here to begin with? 1077 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,040 Speaker 1: So I think that's only with General Kelley and Generals 1078 01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 1: and Jeff Sessions have worked pretty tight, pretty hard on 1079 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 1: this issue, and they obviously I think it's important enough 1080 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,880 Speaker 1: that you know, you haven't heard much from either of 1081 01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 1: them in public, and all of a sudden, over the 1082 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,240 Speaker 1: course in the last seventy two hours, I've seen them everywhere. 1083 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,720 Speaker 1: They're like a traveling road show. I mean, they're they're 1084 01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,200 Speaker 1: just appearing in interviews and they're making making a strong 1085 01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,400 Speaker 1: case that immigration is now in our new focus for them. 1086 01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,440 Speaker 1: I see here Caitlin Collins, one of your reporters at 1087 01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,400 Speaker 1: the Daily Car of the White House Correspondent, also a 1088 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 1: friend of the has a piece up on Daily Calor 1089 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,360 Speaker 1: dot com right now that candidate Trump promised to terminate 1090 01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:09,920 Speaker 1: data deferred action for childhood arrivals. President Trump says dreamers 1091 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:15,560 Speaker 1: should quote rest easy. What's going on here? Well, it's 1092 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,960 Speaker 1: you know, there's been obviously, I think conflicting signals. And 1093 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,840 Speaker 1: this is one of those areas where I think President 1094 01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:26,720 Speaker 1: Trump supporters one answers explicitly because they seem to get 1095 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:28,560 Speaker 1: a sign from him during the campaign that he was 1096 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,960 Speaker 1: gonna be tough on illegal migration, and then that extends 1097 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:35,800 Speaker 1: to President Obama's decision not to profit with people under DOCTA. 1098 01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,680 Speaker 1: We're using what you and I refer to now as 1099 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,560 Speaker 1: prosecutorial discretion, just like deciding certain crimes are probably not 1100 01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:45,360 Speaker 1: worth spending a lot of time on because they're low importance. Well, clearly, 1101 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:46,960 Speaker 1: based on the conversation you and I have had over 1102 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,600 Speaker 1: the last few minutes, these crimes, some of these crimes 1103 01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,280 Speaker 1: as were of gateways for other much more serious crimes. 1104 01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,760 Speaker 1: UM early immigration of course begetting violence in these cases. 1105 01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,880 Speaker 1: And this is why we need clarity from the White House. 1106 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 1: Every single time they asked, um, it's been what we'll 1107 01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:03,600 Speaker 1: get back to you on that. We'll let you know 1108 01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:06,480 Speaker 1: more soon. I mean, including you know, General Kelly, he's 1109 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,560 Speaker 1: had He's really needed to answer this question. How does 1110 01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,120 Speaker 1: he define a sanctuary? Say, many of the cities that 1111 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,080 Speaker 1: are wondering about whether or not they're gonna lose fundings 1112 01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:15,880 Speaker 1: feel like they don't have a clear definition of what 1113 01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,200 Speaker 1: it is to begin with. So I think the administration 1114 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:23,520 Speaker 1: needs to both define sanctuary cities very specifically specifically say 1115 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:25,400 Speaker 1: how they're going to remove funding. We're beginning to see 1116 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 1: some of that and also be very specific about when 1117 01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,000 Speaker 1: is doctor commands and if it isn't like what the 1118 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,720 Speaker 1: public know, they deserve to big story today in the 1119 01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,600 Speaker 1: world of politics seems to be next week. There's a 1120 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,840 Speaker 1: bunch of things that happened next week, including the the 1121 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:44,600 Speaker 1: hundred day marker is finally hit well next Saturday. But 1122 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,960 Speaker 1: so next week there'll be a lot of retrospectives, I'm 1123 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,080 Speaker 1: sure so far on the Trump administration, I know Donald 1124 01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:53,000 Speaker 1: Trump has come out and said, this is a weird 1125 01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:57,440 Speaker 1: and arbitrary line that people draw here, Why a hundred days? 1126 01:03:57,560 --> 01:04:00,439 Speaker 1: Why not ninety days? Really? Which I think gets fair 1127 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,520 Speaker 1: by the way, you know, three months ninety days, but 1128 01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,640 Speaker 1: a hundred days they say. But even even still, it 1129 01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:10,680 Speaker 1: all seems like it's mostly a a man you manufactured 1130 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,320 Speaker 1: milestone by the media. But I guess we've all got 1131 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,080 Speaker 1: to play the game. So what do you think it's 1132 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,600 Speaker 1: going to be coming up next week for Trump? Well, one, 1133 01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:21,640 Speaker 1: I want to say something about that. I do think 1134 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,640 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, the president has a vetted the notion that 1135 01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:27,360 Speaker 1: the first hundred days are essential in his prior statements. 1136 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,560 Speaker 1: I mean, he made so much a deal about how 1137 01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:31,439 Speaker 1: much they were going to accomplish in one hundred days. 1138 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:32,960 Speaker 1: That's true, I think a lot of people, I think 1139 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people do view the Trump administration to 1140 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:36,880 Speaker 1: the lens of man. They really seem to be moving 1141 01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:39,760 Speaker 1: all the time and accomplishing something. But I you know, 1142 01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,800 Speaker 1: they haven't yet landed that big of legislative achievement, and 1143 01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,600 Speaker 1: I think the President is a little disappointed in that, 1144 01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,120 Speaker 1: which is why we're hearing so much about healthcare being 1145 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 1: revived as an issue that they're going to propres legislatively 1146 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,960 Speaker 1: by next Wednesday. They'd like to have a both and 1147 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,800 Speaker 1: recall that the last time this bill went down, this 1148 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,880 Speaker 1: Trump this this Obamacare appeal and replaced it was on 1149 01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,760 Speaker 1: the date that we that Obamacare originally came out. They 1150 01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,960 Speaker 1: allowed some sort of arbitrary, ceremonial deadline to be the 1151 01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,880 Speaker 1: one that they wanted to get legislation out by. And 1152 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,040 Speaker 1: again it seems like the White House is sort of 1153 01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,400 Speaker 1: being dictated by the fact that they want to beat 1154 01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:15,120 Speaker 1: the hundred day deadline, and if you know, from my perspective, 1155 01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,280 Speaker 1: that should not be the goal of legislation. They should 1156 01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,440 Speaker 1: actually be looking to create a good piece of legislation 1157 01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,360 Speaker 1: one that has brought consensus, especially on the right, and 1158 01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:26,200 Speaker 1: pass it whenever it's ready, and you know, and just 1159 01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:27,360 Speaker 1: work on it. I mean, they have a lot to 1160 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,000 Speaker 1: work on extly, They got to keep the government open. 1161 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:31,200 Speaker 1: If they can't get a SPINIS passed baxt Friday, we 1162 01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,760 Speaker 1: have a government shut down. Maybe maybe the President's signed 1163 01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:35,200 Speaker 1: with that, and he doesn't seem to be too scared 1164 01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,280 Speaker 1: of it um. But there's a lot on their plate 1165 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,080 Speaker 1: and they need to get it, get us solved very quickly. 1166 01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,280 Speaker 1: I mean next week, any chance for movement based on 1167 01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 1: what you're hearing and seeing down there in d C. 1168 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,400 Speaker 1: On either healthcare war taxes. Trump is saying I think 1169 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,560 Speaker 1: he said today big big things on taxes next week. 1170 01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:54,200 Speaker 1: That seems pretty definitive. Yeah, there's there's a lot of 1171 01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,960 Speaker 1: noises and signals. We don't have a clear piece of legislation, 1172 01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 1: for instance, on healthcare UM, which you know is being 1173 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:04,000 Speaker 1: negotiated by the House, Randel Carcass and others. Which is 1174 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,760 Speaker 1: a good sign because the last time they rolled this 1175 01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,560 Speaker 1: thing out it was where just jump on everyone's laps 1176 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:08,840 Speaker 1: and they were left in dating and after it was 1177 01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,480 Speaker 1: public and remember the bill weeks last time right now 1178 01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:14,200 Speaker 1: some details only that the text of Lawyers Linson is 1179 01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:17,040 Speaker 1: not out yet, so it appears that there seems to 1180 01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:20,080 Speaker 1: be some cooperation in coming up with something palatable for 1181 01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,920 Speaker 1: his release to the public. I have no idea given 1182 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,600 Speaker 1: the fact that the first the first attempt failed, I 1183 01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 1: have no idea what the chances are for another attempt 1184 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:32,720 Speaker 1: on healthcare or for that matter, uh, the spending bill 1185 01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,920 Speaker 1: or tax reform. So there's just just it seems like 1186 01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:36,640 Speaker 1: an awful lot to get to in a week's time. 1187 01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,960 Speaker 1: And by the way, you have Daily Caller alumni and 1188 01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,560 Speaker 1: previous editor in chief Tucker Carlson moving from big chair 1189 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,440 Speaker 1: at Fox News to biggest chair at Fox News. We 1190 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,720 Speaker 1: wish him well, but inquiring minds we want to know 1191 01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:53,560 Speaker 1: when is Vince Colonist. Gotta get the Vince Colony show going. Uh, well, 1192 01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:55,640 Speaker 1: this is my this is my best attempt at a book. 1193 01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:57,560 Speaker 1: I just come on into your interviews and hope that 1194 01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,400 Speaker 1: I did. Okay, you're doing a phenomenal job, Vince. We 1195 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,200 Speaker 1: love having you man. Look, have a great weekend. Everybody 1196 01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:05,640 Speaker 1: listening should go check out latest in the Daily Caller 1197 01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,760 Speaker 1: Daily Caller dot com. I have it marked in my browser, 1198 01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,560 Speaker 1: my internet browser. You should too, Vince Colonies, editor in chief. 1199 01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,760 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, so good to have you. Thanks 1200 01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:18,240 Speaker 1: very much. Team. We are going to go into a break. 1201 01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,440 Speaker 1: We'd love to hear from you before we start getting 1202 01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,640 Speaker 1: ready for our weekends. Here. Maybe you're maybe you're already 1203 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:26,480 Speaker 1: ready for the weekend because everybody's working for it. Eight 1204 01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:31,080 Speaker 1: four four two eight to five, eight four, eight to five. 1205 01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:37,160 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Welcome back, Team Hawk in North 1206 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 1: Carolina on w p t I. That is a cool name. Well, 1207 01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,280 Speaker 1: thank you very much. I have an excellent quote for 1208 01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:48,840 Speaker 1: you considering what's been going on in the last week. 1209 01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:52,240 Speaker 1: All right, let's see what you got Hawk. Here, we 1210 01:07:52,280 --> 01:08:03,880 Speaker 1: got Murdoch. I'm coming to get you. Um Murdoch, I'm 1211 01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:09,000 Speaker 1: coming to get you, all right. I mean I'm gonna 1212 01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get very Is that from total recall? That 1213 01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:14,120 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna get very angry in myself? No, it's older 1214 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:20,080 Speaker 1: than that. I got nothing. What is it? That's Rambo 1215 01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:25,919 Speaker 1: two ah, that's you got me. I I'm I'm ashamed. 1216 01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:29,200 Speaker 1: I'm ashamed right now. I'm I'm doing a radio a 1217 01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:31,800 Speaker 1: radio shame dance in here. I should I should have 1218 01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,599 Speaker 1: gotten that. That's right in the wheelhouse of action movie. 1219 01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:36,559 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go. You know what you've done, though, 1220 01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,680 Speaker 1: Hawk is you've given me an excuse to watch some 1221 01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,880 Speaker 1: Rambo this weekend. So I thank you for that. Well. 1222 01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,360 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy it cause it's it's one of 1223 01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:50,160 Speaker 1: the classic action movies for Americans out there, no question America. 1224 01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,200 Speaker 1: All right, Hawk, great to have you, man Shieldsai, I 1225 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:56,080 Speaker 1: thank you very much for calling in. Uh let's also 1226 01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:01,800 Speaker 1: take Melissa in West Virginia on the I Heart app payment. Hi, 1227 01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:05,680 Speaker 1: but how are you good? Thank you? I've got an 1228 01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:09,320 Speaker 1: action movie quote for you. Hope you've been watching. Okay, 1229 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,000 Speaker 1: I having a rough day today. I'm not gonna get 1230 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,479 Speaker 1: demoted from a black belt to a green belt or something. 1231 01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:17,000 Speaker 1: But go ahead. I've noticed you're going to have to 1232 01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:21,160 Speaker 1: take the action movie quotes away anyway. Okay. Set up, 1233 01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,479 Speaker 1: there's two guys. They're fighting it out. Finally, the one 1234 01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:28,880 Speaker 1: guy says, did Kordesky train you? The other guy says yeah, 1235 01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:32,960 Speaker 1: he says I trained Kordevsky and they go back to fighting. 1236 01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,280 Speaker 1: I got speaking and yeah, all right, what is it 1237 01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:44,200 Speaker 1: another day? What is it? It's retired? Extremely dangerous, the 1238 01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:47,920 Speaker 1: first one. You gotta watch him. I haven't even seen 1239 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:51,599 Speaker 1: I haven't even seen it. What is that? Retired extremely 1240 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,479 Speaker 1: it's Bruce Willis. It's an action movie. It's kind of 1241 01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:58,280 Speaker 1: a comedy action, but it's so good. I mean action comment. 1242 01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,559 Speaker 1: I guess like true lies technically count this action move 1243 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,519 Speaker 1: even though it's action comedy too. So I'm not I'm 1244 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,519 Speaker 1: not going to expel that from the realm of of 1245 01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,160 Speaker 1: what we can what we could do here. But all right, 1246 01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,720 Speaker 1: Retired by Bruce Willis going on the list? Are you 1247 01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:11,720 Speaker 1: telling me I should see this? Or is this like 1248 01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,960 Speaker 1: maybe I should must you? You should go say this 1249 01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,360 Speaker 1: and then you will know what the Doctor Janius nineteen 1250 01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,439 Speaker 1: seventy affair is about. All Right, I still have no 1251 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,360 Speaker 1: idea about any of this about, but thank you very much, Melissa. 1252 01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:28,880 Speaker 1: I have a great weekend. Um. Yeah, so what else 1253 01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:32,559 Speaker 1: did I have in mind? For everything else going on here? Um? 1254 01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,120 Speaker 1: This is one of those moments where I have a 1255 01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:38,720 Speaker 1: bunch of I okay, that that the Chelsea Clinton. The 1256 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,200 Speaker 1: Chelsea Clinton. No, no, no, we're gonna hold off on 1257 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,280 Speaker 1: that for a second. Let's talk about sign. We'll get 1258 01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,840 Speaker 1: to Chelsea Clinton taking a few minutes because it's a 1259 01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,920 Speaker 1: piece of vanity fair and it's just amazing. Uh, it's 1260 01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:52,120 Speaker 1: amazing and answers some unanswered questions from yesterday when I 1261 01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,240 Speaker 1: was talking to Michelle Malkin about what is it with 1262 01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:58,240 Speaker 1: Democrats and Chelsea Clinton? This weekend? I think is the 1263 01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:03,120 Speaker 1: mark for science? Um? Is that? Yah? Yeah? Right? This 1264 01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:05,320 Speaker 1: is This is the weekend that's the March for science, 1265 01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,759 Speaker 1: and they are scientists are hitting the street to demand 1266 01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:14,439 Speaker 1: respect and funding. This is what NBC News says. They 1267 01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:17,320 Speaker 1: study the birds and oh my gosh, NBC News, come on. 1268 01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,960 Speaker 1: They study the birds and the bees, and the flowers 1269 01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:23,000 Speaker 1: and the trees and the moon up above. They love 1270 01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:26,840 Speaker 1: bugs and frogs. They know that vaccines have saved tens 1271 01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:28,920 Speaker 1: of millions of lives, and that climate change is not 1272 01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,200 Speaker 1: only real and worsened by people, but that it threatens 1273 01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:35,800 Speaker 1: our homes and livelihoods. No, it really, it really doesn't, guys. 1274 01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,719 Speaker 1: But anyway, and now scientists and their supporters are getting 1275 01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,680 Speaker 1: their day in the limelight with a global march for 1276 01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,840 Speaker 1: our global March fall Science that grew out of the 1277 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:50,640 Speaker 1: unexpectedly successful Women's March at the end of January. You know, 1278 01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,679 Speaker 1: I I might have to go to the wait, where 1279 01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,519 Speaker 1: is there one of New York guys? We gotta fight 1280 01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:56,880 Speaker 1: out of the word in New York, because I might 1281 01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:00,080 Speaker 1: have to show up just to ask ask people the 1282 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:04,240 Speaker 1: Science March some very some very basic questions, you know, Like, 1283 01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,240 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, if you're at the Science March, is 1284 01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,160 Speaker 1: it fair game to be like, what what is what 1285 01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,760 Speaker 1: is the scientific method? Do you there is one in 1286 01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:16,479 Speaker 1: New York? All right now, I'm like committing myself to thinking. 1287 01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,000 Speaker 1: I'm coming off the thinking about showing up at this 1288 01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,280 Speaker 1: on the weekend. I might have to go pop in 1289 01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:24,320 Speaker 1: there for a little bit and be like, hey, everybody, um, 1290 01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,160 Speaker 1: so like tell me, tell me about some some science things. 1291 01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:31,320 Speaker 1: And we could just come up with very very basic questions, 1292 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:33,479 Speaker 1: you know. We we'd have to come up with, you know, 1293 01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:38,439 Speaker 1: at what temperature does water boil? For example? I will 1294 01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:41,920 Speaker 1: take fahrenheit or celsius? You know, uh, what do you 1295 01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,919 Speaker 1: call what? What do you call the process by which plants? 1296 01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:48,960 Speaker 1: You know? Live? What? What is what is that? Um? 1297 01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:50,720 Speaker 1: We can we can come up with a whole bunch 1298 01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,080 Speaker 1: of quiet, very very basic stuff just to see. Look, 1299 01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,320 Speaker 1: I'm not at the Science March. I'm not a science guy, 1300 01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,240 Speaker 1: but I would be wondering how well they would do. 1301 01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,760 Speaker 1: I think the man in on the street interviews at US, 1302 01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:03,559 Speaker 1: at the Science March in New York or anywhere this 1303 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:08,120 Speaker 1: weekend would probably be easily described as epic. That is 1304 01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:12,559 Speaker 1: my guess. My assumption here is that there are going 1305 01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:16,840 Speaker 1: to be a lot of people at this who know 1306 01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:22,759 Speaker 1: nothing about science and use science as a rallying cry 1307 01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:28,080 Speaker 1: for political ideas that have no basis in science whatsoever. Uh. 1308 01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:33,640 Speaker 1: And the entire process here is is really unscientific. You 1309 01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:35,400 Speaker 1: can go back to Einstein, you know, you can get 1310 01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,040 Speaker 1: a whole room of people that say I'm wrong, but 1311 01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,599 Speaker 1: it should only take one to prove I'm wrong. This 1312 01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,120 Speaker 1: This is not um. This is not going to be 1313 01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:47,559 Speaker 1: a a movement that gathers people together in a in 1314 01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,439 Speaker 1: a state of harmony. That much I can I can 1315 01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,760 Speaker 1: promise you. And it's gonna be a lot of stuff 1316 01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:57,599 Speaker 1: about climate change um, which nobody at this rally will 1317 01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:00,680 Speaker 1: have an honest discussion with you about it. I don't know. 1318 01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:03,200 Speaker 1: Do they not realize when they discuss this, When they 1319 01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:06,040 Speaker 1: talk about it, it's just one long string of talking 1320 01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:10,400 Speaker 1: points that they haven't really thought much about why. Why 1321 01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:15,280 Speaker 1: is it, if climate change is an urgent threat, why 1322 01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:18,400 Speaker 1: aren't we seeing a huge decline or a huge drop 1323 01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:23,600 Speaker 1: in sales of beachfront properties in this country. I don't know. 1324 01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:26,360 Speaker 1: They'll point to some They'll find me some neighborhood, I'm sure, 1325 01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,160 Speaker 1: I think. Actually I saw one recently. I think it 1326 01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:31,960 Speaker 1: was in Florida where they have problem with flood insurance. Well, yeah, 1327 01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:35,200 Speaker 1: because they've been getting flooded for the last hundred years, 1328 01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,920 Speaker 1: so it's understandable that you would have flood insurance issues. 1329 01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:43,160 Speaker 1: But also if some part of the country is already 1330 01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,400 Speaker 1: at sea level and having issues with flooding, does that 1331 01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:47,000 Speaker 1: mean that all the rest of us have to change 1332 01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:52,519 Speaker 1: the way the economy works and allow the government to expand. Uh, 1333 01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:55,160 Speaker 1: it's already vast, but to expand even more into our 1334 01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:57,280 Speaker 1: day to day lives, to control what we're doing because 1335 01:14:57,280 --> 01:15:02,680 Speaker 1: of um, because of climate change. I saw this, uh, 1336 01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,600 Speaker 1: this series of Vice. They had a piece. It was 1337 01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:07,680 Speaker 1: actually an older piece, but I watched it just this 1338 01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:10,720 Speaker 1: last weekend or the weekend before, I forget. It was 1339 01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:15,519 Speaker 1: about trash in the oceans and this The story here 1340 01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:17,240 Speaker 1: is that there's a lot of trash in the oceans. 1341 01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,559 Speaker 1: A lot of trash ns up in the oceans, plastic 1342 01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,519 Speaker 1: in particular, and it creates these huge islands of trash. 1343 01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:24,800 Speaker 1: And part of this, part of the story that they 1344 01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,240 Speaker 1: did was that there was a young guy who's coming 1345 01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:31,040 Speaker 1: together with a method of cleaning up all the trash 1346 01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:32,400 Speaker 1: in the ocean. I don't know if it will work 1347 01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:36,280 Speaker 1: or not, but they never take this into account either. Right, 1348 01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,400 Speaker 1: we're we're always led to believe that the science of 1349 01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,880 Speaker 1: today is going to be the science of ten years 1350 01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:42,639 Speaker 1: from now, and so we should make all of these 1351 01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:47,280 Speaker 1: decisions about policy without knowing what the technology will look like. 1352 01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:51,880 Speaker 1: We are already decarbonizing as a well in this country 1353 01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,639 Speaker 1: and around the world. If you look at what fuels 1354 01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:56,439 Speaker 1: were using more and more of and less and less of. 1355 01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,599 Speaker 1: They're not all renewables, but we are decarbonizing a matter 1356 01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:01,200 Speaker 1: of course. And I got a little bit into a side. 1357 01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:03,040 Speaker 1: See it's tough. I got no science talking enough time 1358 01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,439 Speaker 1: to finish it. We'll talk a little more science than also, 1359 01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:10,160 Speaker 1: Chelsea Clinton on the flip side. Stay with me the 1360 01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:12,920 Speaker 1: Freedom Hunt rocks online too. You can hang out with 1361 01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:16,160 Speaker 1: Team Buck anytime. Plus can plus the latest news and analysis. 1362 01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:21,160 Speaker 1: Go to Buck Sexton dot com. That's buck Sexton dot com. 1363 01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:25,080 Speaker 1: The buck is back lines are late. Let's take him 1364 01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:28,280 Speaker 1: Matt in Texas on the I Heart Apple's Up friend. 1365 01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:38,160 Speaker 1: Hey man, it's actually Mac you may see. Yeah, but 1366 01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:39,960 Speaker 1: Mac and Buck I like it. It It sounds like a 1367 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:46,320 Speaker 1: buddy comedy. Yeah, maybe fine, don't don't play along, Mac, 1368 01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:50,280 Speaker 1: what's on your mind? Okay? So? Uh, this is a 1369 01:16:50,320 --> 01:16:53,479 Speaker 1: spine movie quote? Okay, and I do you like spine movies? 1370 01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,760 Speaker 1: This one probably was released some time around the time 1371 01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:59,160 Speaker 1: you were working for c I A. So I'm reasonably 1372 01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:05,480 Speaker 1: certain you saw. So there's a softballing all right, you ready, yes, sir? Okay, 1373 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:10,880 Speaker 1: be polite, be courteous, show professionalism, and to have a 1374 01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:21,320 Speaker 1: plan to kill everyone in the room. God, you got me? 1375 01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:25,960 Speaker 1: What is it? Okay? All right? Cause signal Royal seven? 1376 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:28,439 Speaker 1: When does he say I've seen that movie like a 1377 01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:32,639 Speaker 1: thousand times? When did he say that? He's he says 1378 01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:36,800 Speaker 1: that too right before he is he's talking to the 1379 01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:40,400 Speaker 1: CIA agent actually, and he said, he said, do you 1380 01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,160 Speaker 1: have a plan, And he said, yeah, people like I'm 1381 01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:46,160 Speaker 1: going to be courteous, Michelle, professionalism and have a plan 1382 01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,599 Speaker 1: to kill everybody in the room. Uh yeah, okay, legit, legit, 1383 01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:53,400 Speaker 1: good call possisy here. You're a scientist, sir, Yes, sir, 1384 01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,360 Speaker 1: I am a scientist. I used to work for NOAH. 1385 01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,560 Speaker 1: I am now retired from NOAH, which stands for the 1386 01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:03,559 Speaker 1: National Oceanic and Atmosphere Administration. We don't build arcs. And 1387 01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:07,400 Speaker 1: what do you guys do? Well, one of the things 1388 01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:11,880 Speaker 1: I did was climate research. Oh, let's let's talk about this, caller. 1389 01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:17,280 Speaker 1: What was your experience doing climate research? Let me give 1390 01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,600 Speaker 1: you three bullets from my residents. I worked well, I 1391 01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:22,439 Speaker 1: wentered over answer. I'm gonna give you four bullets. I 1392 01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:26,400 Speaker 1: wentered over in Antarctica. I worked at the National Ice Center, 1393 01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:29,960 Speaker 1: I worked at the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center, and I 1394 01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:35,360 Speaker 1: worked at the National Hurricane e So the type of 1395 01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:40,640 Speaker 1: research that I did was on greenhouse gases and the 1396 01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:45,640 Speaker 1: effect that electrostatic precipitation has. Now, just to give you 1397 01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:49,000 Speaker 1: an idea what that means. It means what is the 1398 01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:52,600 Speaker 1: most potent greenhouse gas in the atmosphere. This is a 1399 01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:54,880 Speaker 1: good question for you to ask your people if you 1400 01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,360 Speaker 1: go to this march, go ahead and ask them this question. 1401 01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:07,080 Speaker 1: What is the most potent greenhouse gas in the atmosphere. Answer, no, no, no, no, 1402 01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:09,479 Speaker 1: Messing is not because that's the trace gas. The most 1403 01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:16,360 Speaker 1: potent greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is water vapor. And 1404 01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:20,360 Speaker 1: if you if you do something called electrostatic precipitation, which 1405 01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:22,559 Speaker 1: is work that was done by Wilson and the Wilson 1406 01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:26,280 Speaker 1: cloud chamber experiments over a hundred years ago, you see 1407 01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:31,240 Speaker 1: that the forcing from electrostatic precipitation isn't identical to the 1408 01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:37,679 Speaker 1: amount of forcing that they attribute to CEO two. Uh huh. 1409 01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:42,799 Speaker 1: So we'll give me the layman's terms here. Okay, solar wind. 1410 01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,920 Speaker 1: The more solar wind there is, the higher the global 1411 01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,960 Speaker 1: temperatures will be. The less solar wind there is, the 1412 01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,920 Speaker 1: lower the global temperatures will be. This imply during the 1413 01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:56,160 Speaker 1: what it's called the little ice age back in the 1414 01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:02,200 Speaker 1: it simultaneously occurs during something called the monitor minimum, and 1415 01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:06,960 Speaker 1: the sun had no sunspots. In fact, there were scientists 1416 01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:10,519 Speaker 1: of the astronomers of both days that said Galileo must 1417 01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:14,200 Speaker 1: have been seeing things too, have recorded sunspots, because we 1418 01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:18,080 Speaker 1: don't see a thing. There were zero sunspots, so the 1419 01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:21,600 Speaker 1: sun was very very quiet. We know this. There was 1420 01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:25,080 Speaker 1: a Jesuit priest that recorded some data that went back 1421 01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:30,360 Speaker 1: a hundred fifty years called the the a A geomagnetic indecks, 1422 01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:34,479 Speaker 1: And if you correlate that with the global temperature data set, 1423 01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:36,919 Speaker 1: you get big match and then you have to sent correlations. 1424 01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:38,400 Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna ask you some some of the 1425 01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,360 Speaker 1: because I'm a journalist slash analyst, right, let me ask 1426 01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,800 Speaker 1: you some of those questions. Is climate change a big deal? 1427 01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:46,920 Speaker 1: Are we all gonna die? No? I didn't think so. 1428 01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:51,080 Speaker 1: In fact, well, okay, we're all gonna die. I'm sorry, 1429 01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:54,160 Speaker 1: we are all gonna die? I I that was yeah, 1430 01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:56,639 Speaker 1: trick question there. I mean we're all gonna die from 1431 01:20:56,640 --> 01:21:02,719 Speaker 1: climate change? No, we're not. And you're asking a straight 1432 01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:04,400 Speaker 1: out question. I'm gonna give you a straight un answered No, 1433 01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,639 Speaker 1: I'm not going to have a climate change. Here's the deal. 1434 01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,320 Speaker 1: What we're going to see over the next twenty years 1435 01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:12,880 Speaker 1: is decreasing global temperatures and possibly the advance of the 1436 01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:15,400 Speaker 1: next night page. Wait, global cooling, but it was global 1437 01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:19,720 Speaker 1: warming until like five minutes ago. Doc, what's going on? Well, 1438 01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:24,160 Speaker 1: the sun is getting quieter. But I mean all those 1439 01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:27,759 Speaker 1: people in Malibu driving a Prius like they've been trying 1440 01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:29,559 Speaker 1: to stop it from getting hotter, and now you're telling 1441 01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:33,080 Speaker 1: me it's getting colder. You're blowing my world here. I'm sorry. 1442 01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,160 Speaker 1: The only thing they're doing is saving a little buck 1443 01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,040 Speaker 1: here buck there on my lunch. But they're really not 1444 01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:41,080 Speaker 1: doing anything. Here's what I want you to do after 1445 01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:43,880 Speaker 1: this conversation. I want you to get me to your 1446 01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:48,320 Speaker 1: producer and I will I will email you some information 1447 01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:51,880 Speaker 1: which will knock your socks off. That sounds great, But 1448 01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:53,439 Speaker 1: can I ask you people before I let you go, 1449 01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,280 Speaker 1: Doc and I will. Uh, let's let's get that. Let's 1450 01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:58,559 Speaker 1: get the docks info for contact, and I'd love to 1451 01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:01,240 Speaker 1: see some of his research and and uh, you use him. 1452 01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:03,439 Speaker 1: Doc will use you as a resource as much as 1453 01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:05,639 Speaker 1: we can. You know, we've got a I got We've 1454 01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:07,360 Speaker 1: got some some docks in the past who have been 1455 01:22:07,360 --> 01:22:08,760 Speaker 1: friends of the show that we've been able to reach 1456 01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:11,519 Speaker 1: out to and even have on so. Um, but let 1457 01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:14,000 Speaker 1: me just when So you're you're a scientist. You you 1458 01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:17,240 Speaker 1: listed your resume of these places you've worked, uh, which 1459 01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:20,519 Speaker 1: would put you in a perfect position to comment on 1460 01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,920 Speaker 1: climate change. You're here on my show telling me that 1461 01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:25,920 Speaker 1: there'll be a period of global cooling, but that we're 1462 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:28,519 Speaker 1: not all gonna die. It's not this urgent threat. Barack 1463 01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:32,000 Speaker 1: Obama was at the Coast Guard Academy what two years ago, 1464 01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:35,120 Speaker 1: saying that the most urgent national security threat we face 1465 01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:38,080 Speaker 1: is climate change. Um If I said that that's crazy, 1466 01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:40,800 Speaker 1: people would say, well, all scientists would say that you're crazy, Buck. 1467 01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:42,799 Speaker 1: But you're a scientist and you're not saying I'm crazy. 1468 01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:45,960 Speaker 1: So how does that? How does that work? Okay, here, 1469 01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:49,559 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a little secret. Every director of 1470 01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:53,639 Speaker 1: the National Hurricane Center does not believe in global warming, 1471 01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:57,320 Speaker 1: including the current director. You can talk to Bob Sheets 1472 01:22:57,640 --> 01:22:59,160 Speaker 1: and he will tell you the same thing. You can 1473 01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,240 Speaker 1: talk to Jerry Role and he will tell you the 1474 01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:04,400 Speaker 1: same thing. I know these men personally, and they will 1475 01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:08,040 Speaker 1: tell us to you straight. Even Dr Bill Gray from 1476 01:23:08,479 --> 01:23:12,160 Speaker 1: Colorado State University will tell you the same thing. Its course, 1477 01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:15,479 Speaker 1: uh being fertilizer. There we go, Yeah, thank you, We're 1478 01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:19,200 Speaker 1: on ready. I appreciate that, um son. Can we have on? 1479 01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:21,120 Speaker 1: Could we have on some of these gentlemen you met 1480 01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:22,760 Speaker 1: or you know one of them, or we'll reach out 1481 01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:24,639 Speaker 1: to them. I'd love because it's the March for science. 1482 01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,760 Speaker 1: This weekend. You understand, Mark for Science is really a 1483 01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,760 Speaker 1: is really an excuse for climate change activism, and Trump 1484 01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:33,840 Speaker 1: is going to destroy the world. Right, That's what the 1485 01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:35,640 Speaker 1: March for Science is really about. Has nothing to do 1486 01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:39,760 Speaker 1: with any other scientific pursuit. Yeah, no, I wasn't invited. 1487 01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. Also, I I signed Heidelberg Appeal. So 1488 01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:47,200 Speaker 1: if you want to find out who the scientists are 1489 01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:53,479 Speaker 1: that opposed global warming, you you look up Heidelberg Appeal. Okay, 1490 01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:55,479 Speaker 1: so yeah, so they're out there. So when then, so 1491 01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:57,400 Speaker 1: maybe they'll have you on the Bill Maher show. And 1492 01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:59,760 Speaker 1: I can yell back when Bill Maher's like, you know, 1493 01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:04,800 Speaker 1: the consensus on science, like, no, it's not true. It's 1494 01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:08,080 Speaker 1: just not true. It's simply not true that that is 1495 01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:11,559 Speaker 1: an absolute faulsehood um. All right, well talk, We would 1496 01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:13,160 Speaker 1: love to have you, you know, keep us in the 1497 01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:16,160 Speaker 1: loop and we'll we'll we'll reach out, we'll establish contact, 1498 01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:17,920 Speaker 1: get in touch with some of your people. I love 1499 01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,679 Speaker 1: the Freedom hunt to be full of scientists who actually 1500 01:24:20,720 --> 01:24:23,080 Speaker 1: know what they're talking about, who will engage on these 1501 01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:25,960 Speaker 1: various issues and and and educate folks. I'm not a scientist, 1502 01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:27,519 Speaker 1: but I do know when people are lying to me. 1503 01:24:27,560 --> 01:24:30,120 Speaker 1: I'm a trained intelligence officer, so I do know that, right, 1504 01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:33,680 Speaker 1: So I'm good at that party. You're also able to 1505 01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:38,200 Speaker 1: read a graph that is true too, yes, and so 1506 01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:40,639 Speaker 1: when I send you some graphs, you're gonna go oh 1507 01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:44,000 Speaker 1: M G O MG for real z s all right, 1508 01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:46,720 Speaker 1: Matt in Uh in Texas. Great to have you all. 1509 01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:51,599 Speaker 1: Man Get Mac Sorry, Mac, it's written on my screen wrong, 1510 01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:55,360 Speaker 1: Mac in Texas. Uh, caller, call screener, Please Sarah grab 1511 01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,520 Speaker 1: his infoll We'll be in touch with him. And um, 1512 01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:03,320 Speaker 1: that'll be great. Uh. Thinking of speaking of science. Now 1513 01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:05,320 Speaker 1: we're we're switching stuff around. We'll have to do Chelsea 1514 01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:07,760 Speaker 1: Clinton after that. I know I can. I'm dragging you 1515 01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,160 Speaker 1: all along here with the promise of a Chelsea Clinton 1516 01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:13,439 Speaker 1: piece because it's so good. It's like I'm gonna make 1517 01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,800 Speaker 1: the best the pizza pie appear for you. You just 1518 01:25:16,840 --> 01:25:20,280 Speaker 1: have to stay with me. Um. But I saw this, 1519 01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,800 Speaker 1: and this was I've been asking for a while on 1520 01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:25,840 Speaker 1: the on the issue of of science and scientists for 1521 01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:29,680 Speaker 1: someone to come on who will talk to me about uh, 1522 01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,920 Speaker 1: about the science of transgenderism, and we haven't. And I 1523 01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,080 Speaker 1: know that my positions on this to people who are 1524 01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:39,400 Speaker 1: transgender rights advocates, they find it even though I'm very 1525 01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:41,880 Speaker 1: nice to I know transgender people, very friendly to them. 1526 01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,760 Speaker 1: I Uh, there's no I have no problem with them. 1527 01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:46,920 Speaker 1: I just as a matter of of public policy, I 1528 01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:49,200 Speaker 1: think we should have an open discussion about what the 1529 01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:52,439 Speaker 1: limits are of the policies and bathroom usage all these 1530 01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:55,120 Speaker 1: That seems fair to me. Right, we can have that discussion. 1531 01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:57,800 Speaker 1: And we've been unable so far to get anyone to 1532 01:25:57,920 --> 01:25:59,800 Speaker 1: come on and take me up on that. We're gonna 1533 01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:01,640 Speaker 1: can tinue And if any of you listen, Look, we 1534 01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:03,680 Speaker 1: just had a we just had a n O a 1535 01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:07,360 Speaker 1: H scientist on. So if there's anybody out there who 1536 01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:08,880 Speaker 1: would like to, you can even call in on in 1537 01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:11,880 Speaker 1: a pseudonym, as long as we can verify your credentials independently. 1538 01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:14,439 Speaker 1: If you want to come on as a scientist and 1539 01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:17,760 Speaker 1: talking about we want really m d s more than scientists, 1540 01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:20,080 Speaker 1: I think. But um, someone will talk to me about 1541 01:26:20,080 --> 01:26:24,680 Speaker 1: transgender and transgenderism from a scientific perspective. But there's this 1542 01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:29,200 Speaker 1: Twitter account called trans Equality, and I thought this very 1543 01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,679 Speaker 1: and it has a substantial following. What is this sixties 1544 01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:37,120 Speaker 1: six thousand people. It's verified so I'm assuming it's real. Um, 1545 01:26:37,160 --> 01:26:40,519 Speaker 1: but maybe not. But it's got a substantial following, and 1546 01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:44,560 Speaker 1: it tweeted out this comment that I thought was very illuminating, 1547 01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:47,640 Speaker 1: but not for the reasons that they thought. Um. And 1548 01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:50,760 Speaker 1: it's from a woman's Facebook page who was commenting on 1549 01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:53,519 Speaker 1: well here, I'll just read it to you. I just commented, 1550 01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,240 Speaker 1: and this was tweeted out and got a whole lot 1551 01:26:55,280 --> 01:26:57,400 Speaker 1: of retweets and everyone's you know, a lot of a 1552 01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:59,680 Speaker 1: lot of buzz. I just commented on this on a 1553 01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:03,520 Speaker 1: trend ensophobic post that was all, like, in a sexual species, 1554 01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:06,640 Speaker 1: females have two X chromosomes and males have an X 1555 01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:09,959 Speaker 1: and a Y. I'm not a big it, it's just science. 1556 01:27:10,240 --> 01:27:12,519 Speaker 1: And this person responds, I'm a science teacher. So I 1557 01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:15,880 Speaker 1: responded with this, First of all, in a sexual species, 1558 01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:19,760 Speaker 1: you can have females b x X and males b X. Insects, 1559 01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:23,439 Speaker 1: you can have females be ZW and males b zz. Birds. 1560 01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:26,400 Speaker 1: You can have females be females because they developed in 1561 01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,839 Speaker 1: a warm environment, and males be males because they developed 1562 01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:32,080 Speaker 1: in a cool environment. Reptiles, Yeah, and she goes on 1563 01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:34,840 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking of myself we all understand that has 1564 01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,200 Speaker 1: nothing to do with anything right that this is. This 1565 01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:42,840 Speaker 1: is not we're talking about moral choices and uh, the 1566 01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:47,559 Speaker 1: ethics of scientific procedures for human beings telling this science 1567 01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:50,840 Speaker 1: teacher that they're treating out. You're telling me about reptiles 1568 01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:57,000 Speaker 1: and snails and earthworms, while maybe of some of some 1569 01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:00,160 Speaker 1: just intellectual interest to learn about the mating habits of 1570 01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:03,080 Speaker 1: of you know, of squirrels and worms or whatever, has 1571 01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:05,599 Speaker 1: nothing to do with the discussion we're talking about whatsoever. Right, 1572 01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:08,599 Speaker 1: human beings are not earthworms. We we all know that. Okay, 1573 01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:11,559 Speaker 1: so that that is irrelevant. She goes, oh, did you 1574 01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:15,160 Speaker 1: mean humans? So this person apparently understands that that's a 1575 01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:18,479 Speaker 1: digression that's not particularly helpful. Okay. Then you can be 1576 01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:21,960 Speaker 1: male because you were born female, but you have five 1577 01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:26,840 Speaker 1: alpha reductase deficiency and so you grow male organs at 1578 01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:28,760 Speaker 1: a young age. You can be female because you have 1579 01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:32,440 Speaker 1: an X and Y chromosome, but you are insensitive to androgens, 1580 01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:34,880 Speaker 1: and so you have a female body, and and goes 1581 01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:38,920 Speaker 1: on at some length here into a number of chromosomeal issues. 1582 01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:41,280 Speaker 1: I would just again, this brings me back to the 1583 01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,880 Speaker 1: intelligence officers skill set. Instead, of a science because I'm 1584 01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:45,880 Speaker 1: not a scientist at all, don't pretend to be, don't 1585 01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:47,880 Speaker 1: have much of a background science. Um, but I do 1586 01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,680 Speaker 1: know when people are making bad arguments and and or 1587 01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:55,560 Speaker 1: lying or evading the truth. Um, is this what transgender 1588 01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:58,760 Speaker 1: people are claiming they have? Is it a medical condition now? 1589 01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:01,519 Speaker 1: Because I'm pretty sure it's a psychological condition, and that's 1590 01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:05,519 Speaker 1: actually never addressed in this entire post. She ends up with, 1591 01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:11,080 Speaker 1: don't use science to justify your bigotry. Um. Okay, well, 1592 01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:14,559 Speaker 1: is it a scientific issue now? Because I'm actually if 1593 01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:17,000 Speaker 1: we're going to discuss that there are people out there 1594 01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:22,320 Speaker 1: who are who are physically genetically in between male and female, 1595 01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:25,680 Speaker 1: let's have that talk. But is that that's not what 1596 01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:28,080 Speaker 1: some of the most well known transgender people in this 1597 01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:32,240 Speaker 1: country are claiming? Unless I'm mistaken, is that what a 1598 01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:35,280 Speaker 1: vast majority of people in the transgender community are saying now? 1599 01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:38,719 Speaker 1: Because if it's a physical characteristic and not an emotional 1600 01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:45,559 Speaker 1: psychological characteristic, then doesn't that block out those for whom 1601 01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:48,280 Speaker 1: it is emotional and psychological because they're not they're not 1602 01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:53,120 Speaker 1: a real transgender person. It can't it can't be both, right, 1603 01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:55,479 Speaker 1: This can't be Oh no, the science is on our side. 1604 01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:59,520 Speaker 1: Here's a the what was it five alpha reduct as deficiency? 1605 01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:01,919 Speaker 1: How many? How often does that happen? By the way, 1606 01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:05,760 Speaker 1: are we also going into a an extreme example to 1607 01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:07,880 Speaker 1: justify a much broader policy that has nothing to do 1608 01:30:07,960 --> 01:30:11,360 Speaker 1: with that. Um? But these are the questions that I 1609 01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:13,479 Speaker 1: want to ask. But I think it's interesting that here's 1610 01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:16,479 Speaker 1: the first time I've seen someone try to use science 1611 01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:20,599 Speaker 1: to justify transgender policy, and it actually leaves open more questions, 1612 01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:22,920 Speaker 1: and I think undermines the argument in many ways more 1613 01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:25,200 Speaker 1: than someone on the left who embraces all this stuff 1614 01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:28,960 Speaker 1: whatever realized is it is it a physical characteristic? Can 1615 01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:31,280 Speaker 1: we look can we tell under with a physical exam 1616 01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:33,479 Speaker 1: or under a microscope if we're at the chromosome a level, 1617 01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:37,280 Speaker 1: that that that that's what transgenderism is? Or is this 1618 01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:40,840 Speaker 1: a choice? Is an emotional and psychological? Oh? Is it 1619 01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:45,240 Speaker 1: just both because it's convenient? I don't think so. I'm 1620 01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:47,799 Speaker 1: still waiting for someone to someone with a real background 1621 01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:50,920 Speaker 1: that we we try and they won't do it. They 1622 01:30:51,240 --> 01:30:54,400 Speaker 1: just won't. I gotta hit a break, We'll be right back. Um, 1623 01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:55,640 Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna have to do a little bit 1624 01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:58,000 Speaker 1: of a Chelsea Clinton talk now and then we'll finish 1625 01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:00,280 Speaker 1: it later because I also have a guest joining. Okay, 1626 01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:06,200 Speaker 1: this guy. Vanity Fair is very fancy magazine. It's full 1627 01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:10,400 Speaker 1: of people who are, you know, very intellectual. They were 1628 01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:13,400 Speaker 1: they were slender ties now because they're fashionable and they 1629 01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:17,719 Speaker 1: have spectacles, perhaps even a monocle were a spectacle either 1630 01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:21,200 Speaker 1: either or but Vanity Fair had is a great piece 1631 01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:23,040 Speaker 1: here on because I were talking about this actually that 1632 01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:26,439 Speaker 1: Chelsea Clinton. Why And I'm not I'm not trying to 1633 01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:29,160 Speaker 1: be mean here. I don't like being mean. And I 1634 01:31:29,240 --> 01:31:32,519 Speaker 1: really one of my self impost mandates in media and 1635 01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:35,120 Speaker 1: on the show, and it's probably to the detriment of 1636 01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:37,240 Speaker 1: my career because so many people get attention by just 1637 01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:39,840 Speaker 1: saying by calling people names and being nasty and mean 1638 01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:41,800 Speaker 1: all the time and calling everyone an idiot and saying 1639 01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:44,400 Speaker 1: everyone's ugly and everything else. I just I don't do that, 1640 01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:46,840 Speaker 1: or try very hard not to do that. I mean, 1641 01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:50,080 Speaker 1: no one's perfect with with Chelsea Clinton. It's like, why 1642 01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:53,080 Speaker 1: am I seeing a photo of her that looks so 1643 01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:57,240 Speaker 1: obviously distorted and photo shopped that everything else where they're 1644 01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:59,559 Speaker 1: trying to make her. They're trying to make her cool 1645 01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:04,280 Speaker 1: on the cover Variety. She's done nothing to to attain 1646 01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:07,720 Speaker 1: the title of cool, and honestly, she's done nothing to 1647 01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:10,760 Speaker 1: attain the title of anything other than Hillary Clinton's daughter. 1648 01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:14,880 Speaker 1: And from everything we know about her, not only she unimpressive, 1649 01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:17,559 Speaker 1: but she's pretty annoying from what we pick up here. 1650 01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:20,839 Speaker 1: And she's a public figure. She wants to go give speeches, 1651 01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:23,040 Speaker 1: she wants to comment on policy. She has over a 1652 01:32:23,040 --> 01:32:28,000 Speaker 1: million Twitter followers, and she writes really inane, vapid stuff 1653 01:32:28,040 --> 01:32:31,080 Speaker 1: on Twitter for people to read and comment on. So 1654 01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:34,559 Speaker 1: she's a public figures. This is all fair game. Vanity 1655 01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:38,599 Speaker 1: Fair writes this piece, and it's a good one title. 1656 01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:43,040 Speaker 1: Please God stop Chelsea Clinton from whatever she is doing. 1657 01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:46,200 Speaker 1: The last thing the left needs is the third iteration 1658 01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:50,400 Speaker 1: of a failed political dynasty. I brought this up yesterday. 1659 01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:53,639 Speaker 1: I don't know why the Democrats are still holding onto 1660 01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:55,960 Speaker 1: this notion of the greatness of the Clintons unless it 1661 01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:58,920 Speaker 1: is a bridget mechanism to the next dynasty, and they're 1662 01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:03,599 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what that is. Um I don't 1663 01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:07,840 Speaker 1: know what it is. Unless Michelle Obama decides to run. 1664 01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:12,559 Speaker 1: I can't see the Democrats coming up with any renew 1665 01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:16,280 Speaker 1: you know, taking any of the big dynastic names that 1666 01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:19,200 Speaker 1: you know, Kennedy's, Obama's, Clinton's. You look at what the 1667 01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:23,200 Speaker 1: Democrats have as their main I guess maybe al Gore's 1668 01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:25,400 Speaker 1: in that kind of in that category and people forget 1669 01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:30,160 Speaker 1: his dad was a senator. Uh, but they're looking for 1670 01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:34,200 Speaker 1: some way to just because celebrity is what wins in 1671 01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:36,759 Speaker 1: politics now as we know. Look, we have a celebrity president. 1672 01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:38,160 Speaker 1: And it doesn't mean he's not going to do a 1673 01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:41,120 Speaker 1: good job and I don't support him, but he's a celebrity. Celebrity. 1674 01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:43,320 Speaker 1: Obama was a celebrity. People said he's a politician. He's 1675 01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:47,840 Speaker 1: really he was like celebrity politician. I mean he was 1676 01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:50,679 Speaker 1: a figure in the media and in the public eye 1677 01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:53,120 Speaker 1: with a with when he ran for president. As you know, 1678 01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:57,440 Speaker 1: and I'm getting off topic here, but pretty flimsy legislative 1679 01:33:57,479 --> 01:33:59,960 Speaker 1: record as a state senator and then a member, you know, 1680 01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:04,160 Speaker 1: junior member of the Senate. Not not an impressive political resume, 1681 01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:07,639 Speaker 1: but of course made into a major media figure by 1682 01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:09,639 Speaker 1: the media. They're trying to the same thing with Chelsea Clinton. 1683 01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:13,439 Speaker 1: Here's the problem just not working in this title of 1684 01:34:13,640 --> 01:34:16,719 Speaker 1: this piece. Please God, stop Chelsea Clinton from whatever she's doing. 1685 01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:18,160 Speaker 1: I just want to read at the beginning, and then 1686 01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:20,880 Speaker 1: we'll I will get back into this a maid investigations 1687 01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:24,719 Speaker 1: into Russian election interference. Perhaps we ought to consider whether 1688 01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:28,320 Speaker 1: the Kremlin to hurt Democrats helped put Chelsea Clinton on 1689 01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:32,960 Speaker 1: the cover of Variety, or maybe superstition explains it like 1690 01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:37,840 Speaker 1: tribesmen laying out a sacrifice to placate King Kong. News 1691 01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:41,960 Speaker 1: outlets continue to make offerings to the Clinton gods. In 1692 01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:44,559 Speaker 1: the New York Times alone, Chelsea has started in multiple 1693 01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:47,960 Speaker 1: features over the past few months for her tweeting it's 1694 01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:51,839 Speaker 1: become quote feisty, for her upcoming book to be titled 1695 01:34:52,080 --> 01:34:55,920 Speaker 1: She Persisted, and her reading habits. She says she has 1696 01:34:55,920 --> 01:35:00,280 Speaker 1: an embarrassingly large collection of books on her kindle with chill. 1697 01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:01,800 Speaker 1: By the way, that doesn't mean she reads them. She 1698 01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:03,400 Speaker 1: just has a lot on her kindle because she has 1699 01:35:03,400 --> 01:35:05,000 Speaker 1: a lot of money that mommy and Daddy gave her. 1700 01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:07,200 Speaker 1: But maybe it's true she has a lot of it 1701 01:35:07,280 --> 01:35:09,320 Speaker 1: is it's embarrassing the number of books on her kindle 1702 01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:11,880 Speaker 1: because I'm sure she knows, Wow, I've probably read like 1703 01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:14,720 Speaker 1: a couple of these, but I keep buying them with 1704 01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:18,640 Speaker 1: Chelsea book It's Your World Now out in paperback. The 1705 01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:21,599 Speaker 1: puff Pieces and other outlets l people, et cetera are 1706 01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:25,920 Speaker 1: too numerous to count. Let's talk about this pushback on 1707 01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:28,200 Speaker 1: the puff Pieces. But we gotta hit a break. I'll 1708 01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:35,320 Speaker 1: pare it back Buck Sexton with America. Now the freedom 1709 01:35:35,400 --> 01:35:39,599 Speaker 1: Hunt is fired up, as team Buck assembles, shoulder to shoulder, 1710 01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:44,760 Speaker 1: shields high call in eight four four D Buck. That's 1711 01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:50,000 Speaker 1: eight four four D to eight to five. All right, everybody, 1712 01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:54,839 Speaker 1: welcome back. Venezuela is in a crisis right now. There 1713 01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:58,360 Speaker 1: are riots in the streets. People are being killed. It 1714 01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:02,200 Speaker 1: is pandemonium and and anarchy. Many of us saw this 1715 01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:05,720 Speaker 1: coming because the moment that a government has full and 1716 01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:09,519 Speaker 1: total control over the economy, over security, over everything, well, 1717 01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:12,759 Speaker 1: things go wrong. That brings me to our next guest, 1718 01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:16,640 Speaker 1: Amy Horowitz. You'll recall that he had a viral documentary 1719 01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:19,600 Speaker 1: on migrant violence in Sweden. Well, now he's got a 1720 01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:22,400 Speaker 1: new documentary out that focuses on the crisis in Venezuela 1721 01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:26,519 Speaker 1: called What's Wrong with Socialism? Ammy, great to have you, 1722 01:36:26,600 --> 01:36:29,280 Speaker 1: and we have a clip of the of the documentary. Right, 1723 01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:34,320 Speaker 1: let's play it. What's wrong with socialism? Nothing what's wrong 1724 01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:39,639 Speaker 1: with socialism? What's wrong with socialism? I don't have anything. 1725 01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:41,679 Speaker 1: I don't have any problems with it. I don't think 1726 01:36:41,680 --> 01:36:45,120 Speaker 1: anything's wrong with socialism. Propitalist countries have always been messing 1727 01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:47,760 Speaker 1: with this ideology of trying to de legitimize it. I 1728 01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:51,000 Speaker 1: can't like it. I think the American people like socialism. 1729 01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:54,840 Speaker 1: I think socialism is great. They think socialism is great, 1730 01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:56,639 Speaker 1: at least some of them do. Amy what'd you find 1731 01:36:56,640 --> 01:37:00,559 Speaker 1: out when you were in Venezuela? Socialism is not so great? 1732 01:37:01,439 --> 01:37:05,240 Speaker 1: That's what I found out. I mean, socialism has taken 1733 01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:09,920 Speaker 1: Venezuela and throwing it in It's becoming a Malfusian state. 1734 01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:13,320 Speaker 1: It's it's really almost post apocalyptic. It's it's almost hard 1735 01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:18,320 Speaker 1: to to describe how bad things are from from every perspective. Violence, 1736 01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:23,040 Speaker 1: lack of food, lack of political stability, poverty. Uh, it 1737 01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:25,840 Speaker 1: is as bad. And you know, Buck, I've been to 1738 01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:28,880 Speaker 1: some pretty dangerous places. I've been to some pretty crazy places. 1739 01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:31,800 Speaker 1: This is among the most dangerous places I've ever been to. 1740 01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:34,439 Speaker 1: What did you see? Tell us about what it was 1741 01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:36,760 Speaker 1: like on the streets of Venezuela. Well, the first thing 1742 01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:40,080 Speaker 1: that happens is when when you first arrive at Caracas 1743 01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:44,479 Speaker 1: International Airport, there's no lights. I mean, there's nobody there, 1744 01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:46,920 Speaker 1: there's no there's nobody's home. You're wondering if they even 1745 01:37:47,000 --> 01:37:48,880 Speaker 1: land in the right place. And then you kind of 1746 01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:51,760 Speaker 1: make your way down these long, dark hallways and then 1747 01:37:51,760 --> 01:37:54,000 Speaker 1: you finally get into an area whe they're checking your passports. 1748 01:37:54,040 --> 01:37:55,800 Speaker 1: You're like, okay, so this is actually the right place 1749 01:37:55,840 --> 01:37:58,320 Speaker 1: to go. Then when you get to the airport, in 1750 01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:01,040 Speaker 1: order to get into the city, the hotel and I'm staying, 1751 01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:03,840 Speaker 1: you know, kind of for them, very fancy Marriott. They're like, 1752 01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:07,080 Speaker 1: under no circumstance, under no circumstance or you to step 1753 01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:09,960 Speaker 1: foot outside the airport. We have a guy waiting for you, 1754 01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:13,519 Speaker 1: security and a driver this is a hotel to pick 1755 01:38:13,560 --> 01:38:15,400 Speaker 1: you up. And that's what they had, a driver, security 1756 01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:19,000 Speaker 1: to drive you into Caracas. And first blush. When you're 1757 01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:22,680 Speaker 1: first driving into the city, things look fairly normal, right, 1758 01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:25,000 Speaker 1: It just looks kind of like a regular city until 1759 01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:27,920 Speaker 1: you start really taking a look at different parts of 1760 01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:30,760 Speaker 1: the city and you realize, first of all, it's a 1761 01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:33,800 Speaker 1: it's like really a country of lines everywhere you go, 1762 01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:36,680 Speaker 1: whether it be a bank or a supermarket or a 1763 01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:40,839 Speaker 1: drug store. You have lines that go blocks and blocks 1764 01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:44,400 Speaker 1: and blocks, and that's because they're rationing everything because they 1765 01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:46,840 Speaker 1: have no food, they have no drugs. You don't have 1766 01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:50,080 Speaker 1: access to your own money, and inflation is so rampants 1767 01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:52,240 Speaker 1: out of control. People trying to bring take out as 1768 01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:54,599 Speaker 1: much money as they can because every week they're losing 1769 01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:59,400 Speaker 1: more money. It's value and the most that's disturbing enough. 1770 01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:02,320 Speaker 1: Really the most disturbing as the violence. Like I alluded 1771 01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:04,439 Speaker 1: to before to give you a sense of how bad 1772 01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:08,360 Speaker 1: it is. We were helping, we were held up. Two 1773 01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:10,879 Speaker 1: guys in motorcycles drove up to us stole our equipment. 1774 01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:13,200 Speaker 1: We have to rent new to buy new equipment. Can 1775 01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:14,880 Speaker 1: I just Achanders jump in here for a second, Army. 1776 01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:18,839 Speaker 1: You were attacked when you were looking into Muslim migrant 1777 01:39:18,920 --> 01:39:21,200 Speaker 1: violence in Sweden and now you're in Venezuela and you 1778 01:39:21,240 --> 01:39:23,920 Speaker 1: were robbed. Yeah, you're seeing a bit of a trend there. 1779 01:39:24,040 --> 01:39:26,080 Speaker 1: There isn't there. I'm just noticing a potter. Go ahead. 1780 01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:27,960 Speaker 1: So you were robbed, Thank god, we were robbed, but 1781 01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:32,000 Speaker 1: but not harmed anyway. Uh, the next day, next couple 1782 01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:33,560 Speaker 1: of days later, we actually got the equipment. We're just 1783 01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:36,040 Speaker 1: shooting some b roll. They're just shooting shots of Venezuela 1784 01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:39,760 Speaker 1: and Caracas, and we see pop pop, and this is 1785 01:39:39,800 --> 01:39:41,639 Speaker 1: on camera. We turn around and there was a guy 1786 01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:43,960 Speaker 1: shot right in the stomach in front of us. We 1787 01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:46,960 Speaker 1: caught it on camera. He's lying on the floor bleeding 1788 01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:49,960 Speaker 1: out as a policeman walks up to him and and 1789 01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:52,439 Speaker 1: just looks at him and walks away. And maybe even 1790 01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:54,840 Speaker 1: night not maybe the most disturbing part of it. And 1791 01:39:54,880 --> 01:39:58,080 Speaker 1: it's really a terrible story. Our fixer, the person who 1792 01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:00,880 Speaker 1: set us up to go into the barrios, she made 1793 01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:03,679 Speaker 1: the deal to guest protection in the barrios, was murdered 1794 01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:06,280 Speaker 1: the day after we left, just shot outside of her home. 1795 01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:11,439 Speaker 1: Are to describe the depths that this country has sunk to? 1796 01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:15,559 Speaker 1: It really is were you in the interviews? What were 1797 01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:17,519 Speaker 1: you able to? What were people saying? What do they 1798 01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:20,640 Speaker 1: want to happen? Uh? What? What did you pick up 1799 01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:24,040 Speaker 1: from talking to the locals? Well, the locals obviously, and 1800 01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:27,799 Speaker 1: and and this goes for upper class, middle class, lower class. 1801 01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:32,439 Speaker 1: I mean there there there is a sense of desperate 1802 01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:34,160 Speaker 1: I mean, desperation is the only words you can think of. 1803 01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:36,679 Speaker 1: An absolute sense of desperation. Now, the rich you are, 1804 01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:39,000 Speaker 1: it's obviously a little bit easier for you. You can 1805 01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:41,599 Speaker 1: pay quote unquote full price for food, so you can 1806 01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:45,639 Speaker 1: add access to food in the supermarket. Anybody middle class 1807 01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:48,200 Speaker 1: and below. And by the way, most people who were 1808 01:40:48,280 --> 01:40:52,080 Speaker 1: middle class will all classify themselves now as in poverty. 1809 01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:54,960 Speaker 1: But there was a quote unquote middle class, not compared 1810 01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:57,040 Speaker 1: to what we have. But but for them, a middle 1811 01:40:57,040 --> 01:41:00,960 Speaker 1: class that's all gone. That's all. They're all in poverty. 1812 01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:03,040 Speaker 1: And you get a sense of listen, we don't we 1813 01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:05,880 Speaker 1: don't have food to eat. We got to decide do 1814 01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:08,439 Speaker 1: I want to stay with my baby overnight or do 1815 01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:10,360 Speaker 1: I want to leave my baby at home? This is 1816 01:41:10,360 --> 01:41:12,599 Speaker 1: what people are telling us. And and have to walk 1817 01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:15,320 Speaker 1: over to a line at ten o'clock at night to 1818 01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:17,559 Speaker 1: hopefully get some food at six o'clock in the morning. 1819 01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:20,559 Speaker 1: These are the choice that these people are making. Um. 1820 01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:23,439 Speaker 1: The most unfortunate part, though, is that when I try 1821 01:41:23,439 --> 01:41:26,280 Speaker 1: to get that they've learned the wrong lesson from what's 1822 01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:29,400 Speaker 1: happening in Venezuela. You would think they say they would say, 1823 01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:31,040 Speaker 1: we need to get out of socialism, we need to 1824 01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:33,240 Speaker 1: get out of this business of the country trying to 1825 01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:35,880 Speaker 1: take care of us. But but the reality was the 1826 01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:38,840 Speaker 1: lesson they've learned from that, and and and person after 1827 01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:41,439 Speaker 1: person would say it to us, we need somebody who 1828 01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:43,639 Speaker 1: will take care of us better. That was this theme 1829 01:41:43,720 --> 01:41:47,120 Speaker 1: you heard time and time out. It's heartbreaking because they're 1830 01:41:47,200 --> 01:41:50,240 Speaker 1: never gonna break this cycle with that kind of attitude. 1831 01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:54,000 Speaker 1: Was there any sense of hope for the future or 1832 01:41:54,240 --> 01:41:56,200 Speaker 1: or any sense that reform was possible when you were 1833 01:41:56,240 --> 01:41:59,720 Speaker 1: down there, No, zero, zero, literally zero. I didn't come 1834 01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:02,280 Speaker 1: up as a single person who had any hope for 1835 01:42:02,360 --> 01:42:05,560 Speaker 1: the future. In fact that they, to a man, everybody 1836 01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:09,080 Speaker 1: there understood that it's going to get worse, way worse 1837 01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:12,559 Speaker 1: before it gets better, because you know, while they're there, 1838 01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:15,479 Speaker 1: while this violence is pervasive all across it's the one 1839 01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:17,439 Speaker 1: thing at the gall carry in about that country is 1840 01:42:17,439 --> 01:42:19,280 Speaker 1: a violence because by the way, you know, how people 1841 01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:22,360 Speaker 1: have to talk about America being, you know, an unequal society, 1842 01:42:22,439 --> 01:42:25,680 Speaker 1: right quote unquote, the earnings gap is so significant to 1843 01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:28,000 Speaker 1: people like that, the raging America for that. Yeah, you 1844 01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:31,200 Speaker 1: don't know what poverty is and extreme wealth until you 1845 01:42:31,200 --> 01:42:34,920 Speaker 1: go to a place like Venezuela. But uh no, even 1846 01:42:35,000 --> 01:42:38,360 Speaker 1: the wealthy people had nothing but pessimism because the reality 1847 01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:41,160 Speaker 1: is it's they don't have Listen, you know what South 1848 01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:43,280 Speaker 1: America is like when it comes to revolution. I mean, 1849 01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:45,879 Speaker 1: they're in the cusp of a revolution. But the revolution 1850 01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:48,639 Speaker 1: is gonna be it's gonna be bad, it's gonna be bloody, 1851 01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:52,080 Speaker 1: it's gonna be prolonged. And even after that revolution, they're 1852 01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:53,680 Speaker 1: not going to come out the other side. It's just 1853 01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:55,840 Speaker 1: it's simply gonna be darkness for a long time. A 1854 01:42:55,880 --> 01:42:57,840 Speaker 1: lot of the people who I don't know if if 1855 01:42:57,840 --> 01:42:59,200 Speaker 1: this was something that came up when you're down there, 1856 01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:01,280 Speaker 1: but I just know about the US for my own 1857 01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:04,240 Speaker 1: life in contacts that a lot of the individuals and 1858 01:43:04,320 --> 01:43:07,400 Speaker 1: families in Venezuela who would have been in a position 1859 01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:12,360 Speaker 1: to help mount a political political opposition and and a 1860 01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:15,840 Speaker 1: political reform movement, they left there like years ago because 1861 01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:18,920 Speaker 1: they saw this coming. They're like, we're out of here. Oh, 1862 01:43:18,640 --> 01:43:21,599 Speaker 1: there's no anybody who's able to get out of there. 1863 01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:23,880 Speaker 1: In other words, were able to sell their business, pull 1864 01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:26,280 Speaker 1: their money out. They took off long ago. And like 1865 01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:28,320 Speaker 1: you said, not only are we these the people who 1866 01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:31,920 Speaker 1: would spark a political opposition, These are people who in 1867 01:43:32,040 --> 01:43:35,600 Speaker 1: the aftermath of any kind of opposition could spark the 1868 01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:39,280 Speaker 1: economy again. Right, there's no hope because the real wealth 1869 01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:42,599 Speaker 1: creators for for what there was, they're all gone. They're 1870 01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:44,640 Speaker 1: just there. They Why wouldn't they leave, right? They a 1871 01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:46,280 Speaker 1: chance to go to Miami, They a chance to go 1872 01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:48,920 Speaker 1: to Brazil. I mean, these people just took off. So 1873 01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:52,360 Speaker 1: even if there was some kind of possibility of them 1874 01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:54,559 Speaker 1: getting out of this, there's nobody there to pick up 1875 01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:58,360 Speaker 1: the pieces and we build the place. Uh. It's uh, 1876 01:43:58,479 --> 01:44:00,240 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know the people blame in the 1877 01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:02,240 Speaker 1: government or do they blame because one of the things 1878 01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:06,080 Speaker 1: that that they do very well in some of these 1879 01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:10,680 Speaker 1: third world dictatorship situations, they blame America. They blame imperialism, 1880 01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:14,640 Speaker 1: some some outside sinister force. Have people finally turned on 1881 01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:18,360 Speaker 1: the government. Yeah, So so I didn't get what you get. 1882 01:44:18,400 --> 01:44:20,439 Speaker 1: I get a lot of everywhere else I go. I 1883 01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:22,719 Speaker 1: didn't get that this is the fault of America. That 1884 01:44:22,720 --> 01:44:25,839 Speaker 1: that was the one thing that was sort of heartening 1885 01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:29,200 Speaker 1: from this trip. It was blaming. The way it's split 1886 01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:32,719 Speaker 1: is the one would ask the question, well, why isn't 1887 01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:35,800 Speaker 1: there some kind of revolt, And the reality is that 1888 01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:38,679 Speaker 1: the government is very smart. So whatever cash they do have, 1889 01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:42,320 Speaker 1: they're spreading around two thugs and to other people to 1890 01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:45,120 Speaker 1: make sure there is a core political support behind them. 1891 01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:48,080 Speaker 1: But they they blame, they don't blame socialism. That's one 1892 01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:50,200 Speaker 1: thing I want I gotta clear again. They're talking about 1893 01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:53,080 Speaker 1: we need a government taking better care of us. They 1894 01:44:53,080 --> 01:44:57,240 Speaker 1: don't blame socialism as much as they blame the particular 1895 01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:00,880 Speaker 1: people in government. So what Shava is now, Muduro? Uh, 1896 01:45:01,000 --> 01:45:03,800 Speaker 1: they is just not a good enough socialist. That seems 1897 01:45:03,840 --> 01:45:05,160 Speaker 1: to be the lesson that at least a lot of 1898 01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:08,400 Speaker 1: Venezuelans are taken from this. That's that's really Uh, that's 1899 01:45:08,479 --> 01:45:12,120 Speaker 1: really discouraging. Yeah, no, you're that's exactly right. It is 1900 01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:15,439 Speaker 1: extraordinarily discouraging. Uh. And this, listen, this is this is 1901 01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:18,800 Speaker 1: not Venezuela is not the only country going through this. 1902 01:45:18,840 --> 01:45:22,559 Speaker 1: You're seeing a leftist sweep throughout South and Central America, 1903 01:45:23,160 --> 01:45:26,400 Speaker 1: and uh, that is going to come to haunt not 1904 01:45:26,479 --> 01:45:28,479 Speaker 1: just them, but it's gonna come to haunt us in 1905 01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:31,519 Speaker 1: a significant way. I Mean. The reason why one can ask, 1906 01:45:31,680 --> 01:45:33,080 Speaker 1: well why is you know, listen, there are a lot 1907 01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:35,599 Speaker 1: of Petro states out there. Venezuela by the way should 1908 01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:37,840 Speaker 1: be one of the wealthiest countries on planet, biggest oil 1909 01:45:37,840 --> 01:45:39,920 Speaker 1: reserves on the planet, bigger than this Audi Arabia that 1910 01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:43,479 Speaker 1: nobody knows that bigger the Sautie Arabia. Exactly right. But 1911 01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:46,200 Speaker 1: the reason why the Saudias, the Russians, the other Petro 1912 01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:50,680 Speaker 1: states were able to weather this significant decrease in an 1913 01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:54,160 Speaker 1: oil price is because they kept reinvesting a lot of 1914 01:45:54,200 --> 01:45:56,840 Speaker 1: their money back in their oil fields so that when 1915 01:45:56,960 --> 01:45:59,479 Speaker 1: this would happen, and it always does, they can just 1916 01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:01,879 Speaker 1: pump out more oil to make up for the shortfall 1917 01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:04,439 Speaker 1: in price. Venezuela took all the money because they're a 1918 01:46:04,439 --> 01:46:07,280 Speaker 1: good socialist country and just gave it to social programs. 1919 01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:10,880 Speaker 1: They didn't reinvest anything back into their country and so 1920 01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:13,840 Speaker 1: they nationalized everything. They kicked out any kind of expertise 1921 01:46:14,040 --> 01:46:15,680 Speaker 1: they would have had to figure out how to put 1922 01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:18,799 Speaker 1: more oil out. So they're stuck at the same levels 1923 01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:21,479 Speaker 1: of oil coming out of the ground, just the prices 1924 01:46:21,479 --> 01:46:24,120 Speaker 1: that have collapsed under them. So it's gotten the point. 1925 01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:26,920 Speaker 1: But they're running out of any they running out of cash. 1926 01:46:27,400 --> 01:46:29,439 Speaker 1: They don't have cash for anything. You know. I had 1927 01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:31,280 Speaker 1: to get out of the out of them. I was 1928 01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:33,800 Speaker 1: there for about two weeks and for a weekend, I 1929 01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:35,960 Speaker 1: was like, I can't spend any another day here. It's 1930 01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:37,439 Speaker 1: like I wanted to take off somewhere, and I went 1931 01:46:37,479 --> 01:46:39,559 Speaker 1: to a Ruba, which is only about a thirty minute 1932 01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:42,639 Speaker 1: flight outside of Caracas. And when we the plane landed 1933 01:46:42,640 --> 01:46:45,880 Speaker 1: at a Ruba, the Ruby authorities come on the plane 1934 01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:47,760 Speaker 1: and they're taking cash from people, and I'm like, what 1935 01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:49,599 Speaker 1: the hell is going on? So I asked my feat 1936 01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:51,759 Speaker 1: mate next to Mega, what's going on? So well, the 1937 01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:54,559 Speaker 1: the the the Venezuela authorities didn't have mind to pay 1938 01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:57,760 Speaker 1: the landing taxes, so we had to collet cash to 1939 01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:00,400 Speaker 1: pay the landing taxes. Otherwise we go back to Venezuela. Ammy, 1940 01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:01,640 Speaker 1: we gotta leave it there for now. But how can 1941 01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:04,479 Speaker 1: people watch your documentary? They can find that Ami Horrow. 1942 01:47:04,479 --> 01:47:07,160 Speaker 1: It's on YouTube, but they can go Amy Horts, Facebook, Twitter, 1943 01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:11,799 Speaker 1: It's out there, just everybody. Ammi Horowitz, that's where you go. Um, 1944 01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:14,599 Speaker 1: What's wrong with socialisms? Documentary? Our friend Ammi Horroitz, Thank 1945 01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:17,040 Speaker 1: you so much. Have a great weekend, sir Alright, team 1946 01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:19,000 Speaker 1: hitting a break here. We will be back in a 1947 01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:23,960 Speaker 1: few I have your credit. Ian Bremer, who's a political 1948 01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:27,559 Speaker 1: analyst runs a political risk consultancy called Your Asia Group. 1949 01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:33,000 Speaker 1: For this tweet, uh, MSNBC ran a a chiram, which 1950 01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:34,439 Speaker 1: is what you see the writing at the bottom of 1951 01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:39,000 Speaker 1: the screen when you're looking on a news channel. Um, 1952 01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:46,559 Speaker 1: unrest in Venezuela over Trump donations. Wow. Yeah, that's what 1953 01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:52,240 Speaker 1: the unrest in Venezuela is about, MSNBC Trump donations. Uh. 1954 01:47:52,360 --> 01:47:54,720 Speaker 1: And Bremer wrote that this might be the stupidest thing 1955 01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:56,759 Speaker 1: he's seen all year in the bars. Low totally agree 1956 01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:59,479 Speaker 1: on that. Um, but I see something else that's really stupid. 1957 01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:00,960 Speaker 1: And this is one of these times what I wish 1958 01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:03,240 Speaker 1: I had another three hours with all of you, because 1959 01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:06,519 Speaker 1: I'm I'm stumbling into some other topics that I wanted 1960 01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:09,360 Speaker 1: to wanted to hit on and and I haven't haven't 1961 01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:11,479 Speaker 1: had a chance yet, and all like we got lines 1962 01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:14,400 Speaker 1: lit up all over the place. Man, I feel like 1963 01:48:14,400 --> 01:48:17,519 Speaker 1: I never have enough time with the team. Um. That's 1964 01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:20,760 Speaker 1: probably a good, good, shameless transition to bucks x and 1965 01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:23,599 Speaker 1: dot com. Check it out. Also, if you're not already 1966 01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:25,960 Speaker 1: following me on Facebook and Twitter, please go to Facebook, 1967 01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:27,840 Speaker 1: dot com slash buck sex and most of you are 1968 01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:30,720 Speaker 1: probably on Facebook, so that we'll start with that. Uh, 1969 01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:32,920 Speaker 1: and I'm on Twitter to at Bucks exton. So this 1970 01:48:33,120 --> 01:48:37,439 Speaker 1: is crazy. I I am almost I'm almost doubtful of 1971 01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:41,679 Speaker 1: the authenticity of it. But it looks looks real unless 1972 01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:44,439 Speaker 1: this is some fake website that someone made for Middlebury campus, 1973 01:48:44,439 --> 01:48:49,519 Speaker 1: which would be quite bizarre. Um, I'm just gonna read this. 1974 01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:52,920 Speaker 1: So we wait, just to recap. We had on well, 1975 01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:57,280 Speaker 1: we had on Heather um from Heather McDonald from the 1976 01:48:57,360 --> 01:49:01,360 Speaker 1: manhatt Institute talked about her running with the campus speech 1977 01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:05,840 Speaker 1: and the campus anti speech fascists who think they're anti file, 1978 01:49:05,880 --> 01:49:08,479 Speaker 1: which is of course the great irony of it. Uh. 1979 01:49:08,800 --> 01:49:14,479 Speaker 1: Now that we mentioned Middlebury and what happened uh there 1980 01:49:14,760 --> 01:49:18,000 Speaker 1: with Charles Murray who was attacked, physically attacked at a 1981 01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:21,800 Speaker 1: small college in Vermont for the crime of showing up 1982 01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:25,479 Speaker 1: to give a speech as an invited guest. This is 1983 01:49:25,479 --> 01:49:28,240 Speaker 1: from a Middlebury professor. I almost cannot believe it. I'm 1984 01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:30,120 Speaker 1: going and I know I've got more Chelsea Clinton stuff 1985 01:49:30,120 --> 01:49:32,000 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about. I'm I'm being 1986 01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:35,639 Speaker 1: pulled in so many directions. Team. Uh, here's what. Here's 1987 01:49:35,640 --> 01:49:41,320 Speaker 1: what this Middlebury College professor after the invited guest Charles Murray, 1988 01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:44,120 Speaker 1: author of The Bell Curve and as well as other books, 1989 01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:46,880 Speaker 1: is attacked on campus as an invited speaker. Here's what 1990 01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:51,160 Speaker 1: the chair chairman who writes a chair about a chair 1991 01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:54,160 Speaker 1: as an animate object. Chairman of the Political Science department rights. 1992 01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:59,320 Speaker 1: Earlier this year, I offered a symbolic departmental co sponsor 1993 01:49:59,520 --> 01:50:03,599 Speaker 1: sponsor ship to the Charles Murray event in the same 1994 01:50:03,640 --> 01:50:05,479 Speaker 1: way that I had done with other events in the 1995 01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:10,400 Speaker 1: past on my own, without wider constant consultation. This was 1996 01:50:10,439 --> 01:50:15,000 Speaker 1: a mistake. Last week I apologized to my departmental colleagues 1997 01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:18,680 Speaker 1: for this close decision making process, and I apologize now 1998 01:50:18,720 --> 01:50:22,280 Speaker 1: to the broader Middlebury community. The short amount of time 1999 01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:25,240 Speaker 1: between when the event became public and when it occurred 2000 01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:29,000 Speaker 1: gave all of us scant opportunity to listen to an 2001 01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:34,160 Speaker 1: understand alternative points of view. Most importantly, and to my 2002 01:50:34,280 --> 01:50:39,320 Speaker 1: deep regret, it contributed to a feeling of voicelessness that 2003 01:50:39,439 --> 01:50:43,280 Speaker 1: many already experienced on this campus, and it contributed to 2004 01:50:43,320 --> 01:50:47,880 Speaker 1: the very real pain that many people, particularly people of color, 2005 01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:53,280 Speaker 1: have felt as a result of this event. He is 2006 01:50:53,320 --> 01:51:00,560 Speaker 1: apologizing to the little maniacs on Middlebury campus who attacked 2007 01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:06,439 Speaker 1: an invited guests giving a speech. I mean, this is 2008 01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:12,280 Speaker 1: abject submission. This is the end of four when the 2009 01:51:12,280 --> 01:51:18,680 Speaker 1: main character is denouncing his lover to the police. Anything, 2010 01:51:18,800 --> 01:51:23,280 Speaker 1: just stop, anything to get you to stop. The chairman 2011 01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:27,600 Speaker 1: of the political science apartiment in Middlebury. Abject cowardice on 2012 01:51:27,720 --> 01:51:31,679 Speaker 1: display here. I'm sorry that we co sponsor the Charlesbury event. 2013 01:51:32,160 --> 01:51:34,760 Speaker 1: Please don't think I'm being at it in races. These 2014 01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:39,000 Speaker 1: people have tenure starting salary for a tenure professor at 2015 01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:41,880 Speaker 1: Middlebury's over over a hundred grand. Gotta be it was 2016 01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:43,760 Speaker 1: over a hundred grand when I was at Amherst over 2017 01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:46,559 Speaker 1: a decade ago. It's like this very similar school, except 2018 01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:51,320 Speaker 1: Mamers is better, uh over, and you can't get fired. 2019 01:51:52,520 --> 01:51:57,440 Speaker 1: And he's apologizing. This has gotten national attention. He's apologizing 2020 01:51:57,520 --> 01:52:02,439 Speaker 1: for it, all right. I just I don't I don't know, 2021 01:52:02,720 --> 01:52:05,599 Speaker 1: I don't know what to say. I'm I'm sitting here 2022 01:52:05,720 --> 01:52:09,040 Speaker 1: like the this is we we look, we gotta we 2023 01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:12,080 Speaker 1: gotta confront this, we gotta fight this. Shields ie. Like 2024 01:52:12,160 --> 01:52:13,600 Speaker 1: I said, man, you've got to get up there in 2025 01:52:13,600 --> 01:52:15,800 Speaker 1: the front line on this one. And just we can't 2026 01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:19,160 Speaker 1: let this go. This is insane. It is absolutely insane. 2027 01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:23,320 Speaker 1: Uh man, I've got a lot of calls here. I 2028 01:52:23,720 --> 01:52:25,240 Speaker 1: wanted to get to him. I'm sorry those of you 2029 01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:29,920 Speaker 1: have been holding um uh. Cliff in North Carolina. We 2030 01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:31,360 Speaker 1: got about a minute, but I want to get you 2031 01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:34,519 Speaker 1: in even a whole long time. What's up, Cliff, Hey, 2032 01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:37,840 Speaker 1: how are you doors good? Just got turned onto your show. 2033 01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:45,240 Speaker 1: The this business, this gas attack in Syria, all kinds 2034 01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:48,560 Speaker 1: of red flags were not for me. A Sad is 2035 01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:51,880 Speaker 1: a bad guy, but he's not an idiot. He wasn't 2036 01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:59,120 Speaker 1: losing the war against the rebels. Why would he drop gas? Uh? Gas? Well, 2037 01:52:59,160 --> 01:53:02,960 Speaker 1: he's dropped gas any times before, and gas is a 2038 01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:06,640 Speaker 1: weapon that has a psychological impact. It's just sort of 2039 01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:10,639 Speaker 1: the same reason that you would have assad operating torture 2040 01:53:10,720 --> 01:53:13,280 Speaker 1: chambers and releasing people after a long detention with a 2041 01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:15,960 Speaker 1: lot of torture into the general population afterwards, because it 2042 01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:19,559 Speaker 1: inspires fear. Gas also inspires fear. But Cliff, I will 2043 01:53:19,600 --> 01:53:23,000 Speaker 1: give that a more thorough response when we when we're 2044 01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:26,200 Speaker 1: definitely gonna be talking about Syria and internationalations again next week. 2045 01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:28,600 Speaker 1: But I appreciate you you calling it. I'm sorry that 2046 01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:29,960 Speaker 1: you were on whole for such a long time. And 2047 01:53:30,280 --> 01:53:32,320 Speaker 1: for everybody else is on hold, please call back next 2048 01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:34,960 Speaker 1: week anytime you want. We will take your calls um 2049 01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:36,320 Speaker 1: as we can. I know a lot of people have 2050 01:53:36,400 --> 01:53:38,680 Speaker 1: been very patient. We've had a lot of calls today. 2051 01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:41,320 Speaker 1: Uh please do tell a friend about the show. 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