1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Every day up we click up the Breakfast Club. 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 2: Finish y'all done morning, everybody is the j n V. 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 2: Just hilarious, Charlamagne to gud we are the Breakfast Club. 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: Law La Rosa is here as well, and we got 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: a special guest in the. 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: Building, a motherfucking icon. 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 3: I thought he was up here, this is his first time. Yeah, 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 3: that's that's what I seen you on the road. 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: I know, but I thought you've been up here. 10 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, Hey many, thank y'all for having me. 11 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 3: Good morning, it's about time. 12 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 4: And everybody, we don't say good morning enough to our 13 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 4: fellow brothers and sisters. 14 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 3: That's right. 15 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 4: I was a victim of that until I started to 16 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 4: change my mindset. Sometimes I would come down, get in 17 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 4: the car going, you know, on the road, I didn't 18 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 4: say good morning. And once I started to change my mindset, 19 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 4: I realized that's a good way to start your day. 20 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 4: In a gesture to someone whoever you're riding with, you know, 21 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 4: the driver, whoever, that's. 22 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: How they feeling, and then that's how they're feeling. 23 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 24 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes that's also the case. Sometimes just say how 25 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 4: is your day gone? 26 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: You know? 27 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 4: I found myself sometimes I'm a I'm a I'm really 28 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 4: in tune to my spiritual side. 29 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: I've been for a long time. 30 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 4: Sometimes I might just be I remember being in the 31 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 4: club and I might walk by a random person and 32 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 4: I can feel that energy and. 33 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 3: I'd be like, let me just give you a hug, 34 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 3: And sometimes that just changes somebody's life absolutely. 35 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: What about that? 36 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 5: What about when you were the person that might have 37 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 5: been creating energy though, Like if you felt like some 38 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 5: aggressive angriness from this person, but it was your fault 39 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 5: because it was. 40 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I'm gonna tell you. One time I 41 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 4: was in South Carolina, a and a Hole in the 42 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 4: Wall club way back in the day, and it was 43 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 4: supposed to be a night where cash money was supposed 44 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 4: to be there, and they called me because cash money 45 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 4: couldn't come. So these folks in South Carolina was mad 46 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 4: than a motherfucker was not cash money. Little johnn Eastside 47 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 4: Boys show up and so I understand it's a hostile situation, 48 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 4: but I said, I looked out on that crowd and 49 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 4: I said, the biggest dude in this crowd, I'm about 50 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 4: to make him my best friend. 51 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: And I made him my best friend during the show, 52 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 3: like playing to. 53 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 4: Him, giving him drinks and hyping them up, and then 54 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 4: he turned. 55 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 3: Like it turned the whole crowd around, and then they 56 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: were fans of us after that. 57 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 4: But it was it was a way you can always 58 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 4: change the energy of a situation if you approach with 59 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 4: a calm manner. That's why good security don't go and 60 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 4: try to fight somebody. They try to defuse the situation. 61 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 4: That's the first rule is diffuse it, not be the aggressor. 62 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 4: Lok John, I want to go back. 63 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 5: So this is your first time, real quick, what is 64 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 5: a little John morning routine? 65 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 4: Like I knew you were going to ask me that morning, 66 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 4: So this morning I woke up, had a little water 67 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 4: because you know, I do my I do this Korean 68 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 4: facial stuff, so I do skin. 69 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: You know my skin is very important to my skin. 70 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 4: Look, ladies, one rule for that is positivity, positive energy, 71 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 4: positive thoughts, because if you're a negative person in all 72 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 4: this negativity, it's gonna wear the flesh down. So get 73 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 4: up in the morning and do my skincare routine, burst 74 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 4: my teeth, all that good stuff. And then since I'm 75 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 4: on the road, a nice healthy breakfast for me was 76 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 4: two hard boiled eggs, some yogurt, some berries and a grapefruit. Wow, 77 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 4: that's simple, easy and start with a positive mindset. It's 78 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 4: gonna be a great day. I'm always in my mind 79 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 4: saying affirmations for the day, even before I go to bed, 80 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 4: in my dreams, Like last night, I was like, it's 81 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 4: gonna be a great interview. This is I look at 82 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 4: this as one of the biggest interviews I've ever done 83 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 4: in my life because it's like, it's some fifty minutes, 84 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 4: forty five minutes, fifty minutes a long interview. It's a 85 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 4: lot to talk about. Charlot Man, you see me grow from. 86 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 4: I think we one time we taught you were like 87 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 4: you came to the radio station and in South Carolina 88 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 4: one time that was early on. 89 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 3: He wasn't even on air yet, right. 90 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 5: I think it was a phone or you called in. 91 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 5: You had just put out I think you had just 92 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 5: put out be a beer. 93 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 3: Wow. So twenty years ago. 94 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, So we were talking about you having the Confederate 95 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 5: flag in the in the video. 96 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 3: And I don't care about that. So that's what you know. 97 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 4: You've seen the growth, and it's I think it's important 98 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 4: because yeah, you've seen the growth. You've seen it from 99 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 4: a different angle. You've seen it from a different angle. 100 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 4: You've seen it from a different angle, and you know, 101 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 4: you guys moved the needle of culture and you had 102 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 4: everybody and their grandmama on this show. So I think 103 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,559 Speaker 4: it's one of the most important and you know, best 104 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 4: interviews I think I'm going to have because because of 105 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 4: all of that. 106 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: Let's claim it. Let's claim it. 107 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: I want to go back. 108 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: I want to start from the beginning of these are 109 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: the interviews I love because for some reason I thought 110 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: you've been up here before. So I want to start 111 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: when you first got into the music industry, right, let's 112 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: start with you started working with your main Dupris yep 113 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 2: ninety three. Let's start from there. So how did you 114 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 2: hook up a Jamain dupri and what did you do 115 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: for Jamaine Duprix. 116 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 4: So I used to be in Atlanta in the nineties. 117 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 4: I was like the hottest DJ in the city. 118 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 3: I was the demand. 119 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 4: I did all the parties and I would see Jermaine 120 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 4: all the time at the clubs. And then I did 121 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 4: this one club called the Phoenix night Club, which was 122 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 4: the hottest nightclub in Atlanta at the time. 123 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: We brought Biggie we brought Biggie. 124 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 4: I got Biggie and Craig Mac together when they did 125 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 4: the Big Mac Tour, so I got them. 126 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 3: That's an interesting story because we. 127 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 4: Got we we I worked on the radio station, but 128 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 4: I wasn't the PD. And you know how back then 129 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,799 Speaker 4: you had to go through the PD because you wanted 130 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 4: to get the spins for your artists. So Diddy, you know, 131 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 4: he let us get Biggie and Craig because he thought 132 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 4: I was like the PD. And he get there and 133 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 4: the club is slammed like a million people and he's like, Yo, 134 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,559 Speaker 4: what the heck, Yo, we need some more money because 135 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 4: this thing is packed. And then he found out that 136 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: I wasn't the PD, and so he was extra pist. 137 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 4: And then he even tried to get the rep that 138 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 4: worked for BMG at the time fired because she got 139 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 4: because we got Craig and Biggie for free. 140 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: Wow. 141 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: So yeah, that was normal back then when artists are 142 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: on promo. 143 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 3: Tall like, yeah, but you had you wanted to go 144 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 3: through the station so you can make sure. 145 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 4: You get to spend get your look. And we wasn't that, 146 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 4: but we were high promoters. So I was doing all 147 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 4: the hot parties and I would just see Jamaine all 148 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 4: the time. But like even if I wasn't DJing, I 149 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 4: was everywhere, Like I had a thing where I was 150 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 4: I wanted to be from. 151 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 3: I called it from Bankhead to Buckhead. 152 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 4: That was from the boogie spots to the the most 153 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 4: hood you can get in Atlanta. 154 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: So I was literally everywhere. And Jermaine came to me. 155 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 4: Well, for one thing, people don't really know, Dallas Austin's 156 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 4: brother came to me first, so his name was Claude Austin. 157 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 4: He passed away, but Claude Austin came to me first 158 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 4: and wanted me to work for Rowley. But then Jamaine 159 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 4: came to me around the same time, and Claude ended 160 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 4: up passing and so and Jamaine came because I was 161 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 4: just everywhere, and he was like, I need you, someone 162 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 4: like you to represent, you know, my label, because you everywhere. 163 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 3: So he hired me. 164 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety three, I started working at Social Death 165 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 4: and I was hired to do A and R and 166 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 4: street promotions because I was everywhere, right, so he wanted 167 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 4: he wanted someone that had respecting the city, that could 168 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 4: go anywhere, and someone like me that I was always out, 169 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 4: so that was represent Social Death from Bankhead. 170 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: Like I said to Buckheat. 171 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: And what artist did you have being in a and 172 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 2: off for Social Death at that time. 173 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 4: I had I put together all of the Social Death 174 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 4: based all stars and at night. 175 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: I think yeah. And that changed. 176 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 4: That changed music too, like it gave us a whole 177 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 4: genre that had never been created, like had never been 178 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 4: done before. And that all started because in Atlanta we 179 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 4: used to do like it was DJ Jelly shout Out, 180 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 4: DJ Jelly shout Out Uh, the j Team, DJ Smurf 181 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 4: and all of those guys. 182 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 3: They would take. 183 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 4: Like slow jam acapellas, like say, one famous mix was 184 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 4: U can You Stand the Rain? New Edition and put 185 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 4: it over a base beat. So they used to do 186 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 4: all of these mixes like that. They would just do 187 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 4: a whole mixtape. It'll be all bass beats and then 188 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 4: these R and B A cappellas, and so I was like, 189 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 4: we love this so much in the city, let's take 190 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 4: that and make a record from that. 191 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 3: Nobody made an actual song. 192 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 4: So I came up with that concept and I went 193 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 4: to my boy DJ Cool Collie aka Rodney, and then 194 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 4: at the same time I met carlmo Uh. He used 195 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 4: to call the phone that Social Death and play his 196 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 4: tracks on the phone. Interesting story about that. So one 197 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 4: day I'm like, these tracks are dope. So I called 198 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 4: him to the to the office and he comes up 199 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 4: there with a freaking keyboard and plays the keyboard like 200 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 4: just playing the keyboard, not like no CDs, no cassette tape, 201 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 4: just playing the keyboard. And I'm like, this is crazy. 202 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 4: So I ended up using him and we did my 203 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 4: Boo and so yeah, I did all of the Soco 204 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 4: Death Base All Stars, and then out of that we 205 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 4: had play a Pancho. 206 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: He got signed and we did a couple of records 207 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 3: with Player Pancho. 208 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 4: And Player Pancho is actually how I met the East 209 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 4: Side Boys, Wow, Because Player Pancho would always when he 210 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 4: would go out, he would have a whole like. 211 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 3: Twenty ten twenty guys with him, and. 212 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 4: The East Side Boys was always with him, even if 213 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 4: it was just like two or three guys. And so 214 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 4: I was always with Pancho because he was my artist, 215 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 4: you know. And so me and the East Side Boys 216 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 4: just one day we were in the club and I 217 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 4: think we were in the club five five nine, and 218 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 4: we just start chatting this. 219 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: Chant who who you with? Get with and then everybody in. 220 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 4: The club start chatting and then I look at Big Sam. 221 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 4: I'm like, we need to turn this into a song. 222 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 4: And so I know I have access to people with 223 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 4: labels and stuff, so I called somebody I knew. Actually 224 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 4: I called kol Ace. Uh, this guy named kol Ace 225 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 4: and kol A's connected me with this guy named Carlos 226 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 4: Glover and we ended up going in the studio and 227 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 4: we made the song who You With? And that started 228 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 4: everything for a little John as an artist. 229 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 2: When did you start producing? When did did the production 230 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: bug coming? 231 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 3: Uh? Probably like ninety two. 232 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: And you never you never made beats at that time. 233 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: You just bought a machine and said I'm on. 234 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: No. 235 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 4: It started off where me and my partner I used 236 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 4: to do a show in Atlanta called Reggae Jammin on 237 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 4: the like main station in Atlanta, B one O three and. 238 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 3: Me and Paul I was in. 239 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 4: The sound system with Paul Lewis called four Seasons. So 240 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 4: I was like a selector like the Jamaican sound did. 241 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: Jamaican music did every time of gen music. 242 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 4: We had a we had a dance hall, We had 243 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 4: a reggae show on Friday nights on the station, and 244 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 4: what we would do is I would take hip hop 245 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 4: a cappellas and put them over dance all beats and 246 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 4: dance all a cappellas, put them over hip hop beats. 247 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 4: Through that, we got linked up with Signette Records and 248 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 4: we got we convinced them to give us the Cableton 249 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 4: Tour a cappella. That's how I got to do the 250 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 4: Cableton Tour remix. Like when I did Verses, I remember 251 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 4: playing it and people were like, you ain't do that, 252 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 4: like and I remember, like in real time, DJ Scratch 253 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 4: pulled the vinyl out and he put in the chat 254 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 4: like I'm looking at the credits. 255 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 3: He actually did produce it. 256 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 4: So what we did at that time we would kind 257 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 4: of tell somebody how we wanted to produce the records, 258 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 4: and later on we bought a drum machine. I learned 259 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 4: how to produce by the time we got to Who 260 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 4: You Wit, which was ninety five ninety six, But before 261 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 4: that we kind of just told somebody like, yo, chop this, 262 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 4: chop that, do this da da. 263 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 3: Da d d yo. 264 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: Did you have product your credits on my boot as well? 265 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 3: I did not. 266 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 4: I should have gotten some because I really co produced 267 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 4: the song with them. But I thought, as part of 268 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 4: my descript job description as an RS, the first project 269 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 4: I'm doing that that was just part of the job. 270 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 4: But I was really there every step of the way 271 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 4: of inception of putting that song together. 272 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 5: I'm glad you mentioned Sam and Bolt too, because people 273 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 5: always seem to forget about the East Side Boys. 274 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: What did they bring to the table? 275 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 5: What made Little John and the East Side Boys such 276 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 5: an amazing group? 277 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 4: We were just like because we were We were the 278 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 4: sound of the rowdy guys in the back of the club. 279 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 3: That's where we were. 280 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 4: We were them niggas that were turned up in the 281 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 4: back that you just be looking back like, make sure 282 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 4: they ain't coming over here with that. 283 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 3: So we were that. 284 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 4: And what people don't understand about krunk music. I know 285 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 4: some people are like, why was it? Why did it 286 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 4: do what it do? Why did it spread? Why did 287 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 4: it become big? Because it was an outlet of energy. 288 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 3: For black youth. Yes, when you. 289 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 4: Went to the club, you had a hard ass week, 290 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 4: you had a hard life, whatever the fuck was going 291 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 4: on in your life. You hear that fucking krunk music 292 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 4: and you get in that damn mind and you let 293 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 4: all of that out and you feel amazing, you know 294 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 4: what I mean. So that's why krunk music was able 295 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 4: to reach so many people. 296 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 3: That's why I still like going. 297 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 4: Like I see you talking of all the time about 298 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 4: knuck as you Buckets the Negro, and it is like 299 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 4: it touches your soul in a certain way. 300 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 3: And I think we do. And and like krunk. 301 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 4: Music tap into music to their ancestors because they were 302 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 4: channing and so on and so forth. 303 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 2: What did you do when you were a band from clubs? 304 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 2: I remember in college there was some clubs that like, 305 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 2: you cannot play none of that in this club, put 306 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: your hood. 307 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 3: Up and all that stuff. 308 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 4: We just kept going because when you when you tell 309 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 4: somebody can't have it, they wanted more, you know. But 310 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 4: it was crazy that the music got people so rowdy 311 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 4: that they were like losing. 312 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 3: I've seen people. 313 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 4: I was in Louisiana one time we did a show 314 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 4: and it got so turned up they start fighting the 315 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 4: police in the club. 316 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was crazy. 317 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 4: I want to just talk about one thing real quick 318 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 4: that it's been going viral. It's the video of the 319 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 4: two dollars bill concert that we did in Atlanta. It's 320 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 4: a viral video of be performing Get Crunk and that 321 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 4: whole concert, and you can see the energy on each 322 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 4: and if y'all look at the video, each and everybody 323 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 4: in there's face is turned up. It ain't nobody, not 324 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 4: one fucking cell phone in the air. Everybody's enjoying the moment. 325 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 4: Everybody is energized. And even you can see that the 326 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 4: ground was shaking because the camera when it's. 327 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 3: Steady, it is like moving. 328 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 4: That's how much energy was in that place. And I 329 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 4: think it's just a testament. 330 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 3: To like. 331 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 4: We just brought something different, you know, And like the 332 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 4: kids now think they are turning up, but they have 333 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 4: no idea what a real hurnt up time was from 334 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 4: the two thousand. 335 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 5: And get crunked with such a great record, because I 336 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 5: didn't think you could get crunker than Kings of Crunk, 337 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 5: you know, I didn't think you could get. 338 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: Crunkd in that. But as soon as you hear who 339 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: in my Beohagen being me? Motherfuck you? 340 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 3: Like God killed that salute Bohagen out there? 341 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 5: How did you how did you even have the mindset 342 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 5: to take that to another level? How did you take 343 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 5: that energy to another level? 344 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 4: That beat was produced by Little j who produced Knock 345 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 4: If You Buck. So it was time to you know, 346 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 4: come and work on the album, and you know, everybody 347 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 4: down with be and me. Of course people that don't 348 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 4: know Crime Mob. Part of that was through being me, 349 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 4: so we are part of putting them out there. So 350 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 4: of course I called all of the squad, you know, 351 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 4: Trillville helped me write some of the songs, and yeah, 352 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 4: Little Jay sent me. I think he sent me some 353 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 4: beats and that was one of the beats and I 354 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 4: was like, this is insane. 355 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 3: I thought it was one of the crukest beats ever too. 356 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 4: I think my favorite beats that I've produced are co 357 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 4: produced are been on this get crunk and what You're 358 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 4: Gonna Do and what You're Gonna Do is unique. I 359 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 4: was in New York when I did that beat. I 360 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 4: remember I was on TVT and Steve Gottlieb and shout 361 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 4: out to Brian Leach, my boy, Brian Leach. She was 362 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 4: the an R at the time. He was like Brian Leach. 363 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 4: Brian Leash was like, Yo, you gotta go in and 364 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 4: knock out this song for this. I think it was 365 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 4: like a Christmas album or some Christmas crunk album that 366 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 4: Steve Gottlie wanted to put out and I'm like, he 367 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 4: can't put no fucking album out called Crump without me, 368 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 4: So like, fuck this guy. And so I was in 369 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 4: the New I was in New York and Brian was like, 370 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 4: you gotta go in and record this song. So I 371 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 4: was angry when I made that beat. I'm never mad 372 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 4: when I make tracks, but that's one of the only 373 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 4: beats I've ever made when I was angry, And that's 374 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 4: why it sounds so aggressive, because I was mad that 375 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 4: I had to go in the studio and record this. 376 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 4: I wanted to just go out like I was like, 377 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 4: I'm going on to the club. He was like, no, 378 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 4: you gotta go and do this song. And so that's 379 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 4: my anger coming out through the drummers. 380 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 1: Did you have a trademark the word crunk? 381 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 3: I can't remember. Probably did all my ad libs. 382 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: I know that because you're the face of crunk. 383 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 5: But to me, I would have to give I would 384 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 5: take three six Mafia probably the. 385 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 4: So that's another argument going around. It's an argument that 386 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 4: says Memphis started crunk. Here's here's my Here's what I 387 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 4: will say. We in Atlanta. You couldn't be Atlanta in 388 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 4: the nineties and not be listening to eight ball MJG. 389 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 4: You couldn't be riding around not listening to master P. 390 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 3: Master P. 391 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 4: Master P changed the landscape of the South, the South period. 392 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 4: He was the first one that really got us rowdy. 393 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 4: I would say it was master P, but we was 394 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 4: listening to Balling G. And of course three six Mafia 395 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 4: came around that. 396 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: Do you think he got us roody before three to six? 397 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 3: I think about it, about. 398 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: It, about it, yeah, but the club Up. 399 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 3: Club was ninety seven? What yet about about it come out? 400 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: I was in college. 401 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 4: I think it was like ninety five. I remember what 402 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 4: happened was in the club in Atlanta. It was playing 403 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 4: bass music and then when master P came that was. 404 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: Over about about that was ninety five, definitely. That was 405 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 2: a freshman of college. 406 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:20,199 Speaker 3: That was the record. 407 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 4: Motherfuckers in the hood was getting no limit tattoos. 408 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: Exactly. 409 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 4: That's what changes for us. So I will say Memphis 410 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 4: is part of the influence, but our sound is different. 411 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 4: Memphis was getting Bucks. 412 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: It was ninety seven. That's even late though. 413 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 4: No, No, when we got when we got Terry Club 414 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 4: was when they redid it. 415 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 3: That was ninety seven. 416 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 4: Because I remember it says on the Vinyl Tarrtor Club 417 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 4: up ninety seven. So but it started for us with 418 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 4: Master p Master about it about it. 419 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 3: Ship just changed it. 420 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 4: But we are influenced. But it's all different sounds, but 421 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 4: it all intertwined and works together. 422 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: So what would you call what three six was doing? 423 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 3: They called it in Memphis Memphis buck, but three six 424 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 3: was doing it even we weuldn't even buck music. 425 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 4: I think it was just three six created the three 426 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 4: six created their own lane of Memphis music, and then 427 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 4: they changed the landscape of what Memphis music is. So 428 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 4: salute Paul Juicy and the whole squad. That's family too. 429 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 2: You know, you know what the word ask too when 430 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 2: you made when you were making these tracks, did you 431 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: try to make it your business not to sound the same, 432 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 2: because you know, when you look at your desiography to 433 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: see some of the records that you did, like, I'm 434 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: so amazed because they don't sound the same. Right, you 435 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 2: can go to the window, to the wall, you could 436 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 2: blow your whistle over here and then you can like 437 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: the ship is amazing. 438 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, Well it depends, well a lot of it. So 439 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 4: so let's talk Get Low. Interesting story of Get Low 440 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,239 Speaker 4: get Load became because I was trying to make Party Up. 441 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 4: I was inspired by part I love dmxa's Party Up 442 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 4: so much. 443 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 3: I was like, I want to make something like that. 444 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 4: Let me go in the studio. This was like ninety nine, 445 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 4: and so I go in and I come out with 446 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 4: get Low. If you listen to it, it's got the 447 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 4: whistle like Party Up. It's some similarities. I'm inspired by it. 448 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 4: But I sat on the beat. I couldn't really. 449 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: Come up with nothing. 450 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 4: And then I had a session with Yin Yang and 451 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 4: I pulled that beat out and we may get Low. 452 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 4: So it comes out like that just came like I said, 453 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 4: because I was trying to do something different, but it 454 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 4: turned from like a rowdy party up type song to 455 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 4: a tork song. 456 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,479 Speaker 3: But then like say tell me when to go E forty. 457 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 4: We were in the studio together, and that's the energy 458 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 4: of what he's giving me and his squad is giving me, and. 459 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 3: It comes out into the drummer shot. 460 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 4: So every time I make the best stuff when I'm 461 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 4: in the studio, young bloods. 462 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 3: Damn. 463 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 4: We were in the studio together and it took two 464 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 4: days for us to get that song done. Like I 465 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 4: did the beat the first day. We had the verses 466 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 4: the first day, but we did not have the hook. 467 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 4: And then the second day we just threw a party 468 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 4: in the studio and then Bohagen again shout out Bohagen. 469 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 4: He was like everybody was throwing hooks out and then. 470 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 3: He was just kind of mumbling something. 471 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 4: I was like, what you got, because I'm shooting everybody 472 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 4: shit down like that shits trash, and then he's just 473 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 4: mumbling son. 474 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 3: I was like, what's that? That? 475 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 4: That's it, that's it, go lay that and then I 476 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 4: got the second part, you know, And sometimes that's how 477 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 4: some of the records happened to, like you just stumble 478 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 4: onto it. The whistle blow the whistle. I did that 479 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 4: bat that. I did that beat the same week that 480 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 4: I did tell me when to go Damn. 481 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 482 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 4: So I was working on E forty's album and I 483 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 4: think we had done muscle Cars that day. So too Short, 484 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 4: Too Short had came to the studio a couple of 485 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 4: days after that. 486 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 3: So before, like earlier in the. 487 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 4: Week, I was making beats and I was going through 488 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 4: sounds and I found that sound and I was like, ooh, 489 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 4: this sounded like can tails baseline, Like this is a 490 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 4: base like that. I was like, let me make some 491 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 4: with that, and I don't know what made me instead 492 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 4: of making it slow, make it fast. 493 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 3: Because I like to do stuff different. 494 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,199 Speaker 4: I don't like to be expected, so I was like, 495 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 4: let me make it one hundred whatever bpms. So I 496 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 4: put it to the side, and when too Short came 497 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 4: to the studio a couple of days later, I was like, 498 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 4: here you go. You know I got something for you, 499 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 4: But first forty turned it down to forty Forty had 500 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 4: to remind me of this the other day. He was like, 501 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 4: you know, you gave me that beat first, and I 502 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 4: was like, this sounded like Todd, so give it to Todd. 503 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 3: So that's what happened. 504 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 1: Basically, he should get corproduction credits. 505 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 3: You didn't want it. 506 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 5: What moment made you realize Crump had officially crossed from 507 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 5: suvering energy to a global. 508 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 3: Move coming up doing MTV. 509 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 4: They let me get in Times Square on a double 510 00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 4: deckord bus with a little scrappy on tr doing what 511 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 4: you gonna do? 512 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 3: Bruh MTV. 513 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 5: I was gonna say MTV too, because I remember watching 514 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 5: the Video Music Awards. 515 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: I forgot what year it was. 516 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 5: They played get Low going in the commercial break and 517 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 5: the audience went crazy, and Justin Timberlake was wilent and 518 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 5: I just remember thinking to myself, Oh, get Lowers out 519 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 5: of here. 520 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then we end up performing get Low at 521 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 4: the MTV Video Music Awards. 522 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 3: Get Low, Yeah, Lean Back. 523 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 4: And what else we did that year, I can't remember, 524 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 4: but that was that was a big time and Dave 525 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 4: Chappelle was the host, So that was pretty insane. 526 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 3: That was a pretty insane year for me. 527 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 2: And when when you touched when you started doing R 528 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 2: and B, did you think you could do R and B? 529 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 2: Or was one of the things. How did you get 530 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 2: introduced to say, let me try to make R and 531 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 2: B records for doing all already doing them with the also. 532 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 3: Well that was different. So here's what happened. 533 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 4: So Sean Garrett shout out Sean Garrett, incredible songwriter. He 534 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 4: reached out to I guess he was trying to get 535 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 4: in touch with me and he couldn't get in touch 536 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 4: with me, so he knew somebody that worked with me. 537 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: Her name was Delicia. 538 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 4: Delicia had all my beats, so she gave him a 539 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 4: beat CD and that's how he got the beat Basically, 540 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 4: the freaka Eite beat. 541 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 3: Which turned into yeah, So she gave him the beat. 542 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 4: So thank you Delicia forgiving Sean those beats, and Sean 543 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 4: wrote yeah to. 544 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 3: That Freakaak beat. So crazy thing about that is that 545 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 3: beat was for mystical. Freaka League's beat was for mystical. 546 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 3: So I did though. 547 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 4: I used to like have labels booked me in Circle 548 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 4: House shout out be bat Circle House in Miami, and 549 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 4: I like, take a week and I just go and 550 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 4: do as many beasts as possible, and the label could 551 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 4: take all the beats put them on whatever artists they want. 552 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 4: So these particular sessions was for mystical. 553 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: That beat was in there. 554 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 4: He passed on it, and so I think CEO shout 555 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 4: out Coo. He got the beat and he wrote freakalyk 556 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 4: my I don't even know, but he wrote that and 557 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 4: submitted it to the label Pete Pablo. He ended up recording. 558 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 4: But I don't even know this. So Sean Garrett has 559 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 4: the beat. He writes, yeah, Usher don't want to record 560 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 4: no more songs. He done with the damn out. He's like, 561 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 4: I'm good, I got burned, I got all these other songs. 562 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 3: I'm good, We're good. 563 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 4: LA reads like no go record the damn song. So 564 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 4: he goes to record the song and. 565 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 3: We come out with it. 566 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 4: I remember going into doing the session too, like we 567 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 4: I think we recording La and we were like, this 568 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 4: is a smash, right, and so the song is in 569 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 4: the can and then I remember it was around Christmas 570 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 4: time the album was done. La Reid is in Miami 571 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 4: and he calls JD going insane, and JD called me 572 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 4: on three Way and La Reid is like. 573 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 3: Why am I hearing this Usher record on the. 574 00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 4: Radio And basically it was the freakingly instrumental plan as 575 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 4: a bed. They had released the song as a single, 576 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 4: Freaka Leak, and we didn't even know. 577 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 3: I didn't even know they had used to beat. 578 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 4: So La Red is going crazy and then we're like, 579 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 4: all right, we're just gonna go in and do a 580 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 4: new beat. 581 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 3: Thank god we. 582 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 4: Did, because yeah over Freaka Leak is not as good 583 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 4: as yeah as Yeah. 584 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 3: Now that's how God worked. 585 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 4: And crazy story is when I went into the studio 586 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 4: to like redo the beat, I'm like, how that Pete Poplo. 587 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 3: Record ain't gonna be that big. Just take all the 588 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 3: keys off, let's just play a new STI because it's Usher. 589 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, and I don't, you know, 590 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 4: I just didn't think it was gonna be that big. 591 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 4: It could have been a cool record, but I didn't 592 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 4: think it was gonna be a number one song. 593 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 3: Like it was. 594 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 4: So that's why the beats sound similar, is because I 595 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 4: just used the same exact drums, but I played a 596 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 4: different synth line. So well, it got my boy a rock. 597 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 4: My boy Rock played the scynth line, so we just 598 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 4: played a new synth line and here we are with 599 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 4: two monsters. 600 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 601 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: It probably helped frequently though, because. 602 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, make them together lover and friends, so that I was. 603 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 6: Going to get to that that origin story tell them. 604 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 3: So when we when I can't. 605 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 4: We were working on my album Crunk Juice, right, So uh, 606 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 4: instead of going with another up tempo I like to 607 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 4: be different. I could have certainly went to Usher, John 608 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 4: and Luda with another fast song. I said, let's do 609 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 4: something different. And at at in Atlanta, we go to 610 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 4: Strip club for everything, so we always in you know. 611 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 4: I was in the Strip club one day and the 612 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 4: DJ played the Michael Sterling Lovers. 613 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,159 Speaker 3: And Friends, and I was like, huh, that. 614 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 4: Could be pretty cool for Usher to do. So let's 615 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 4: let's back up. So this is before Usher's album is done. 616 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 4: I give Usher the Michael STERR on the City, like 617 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 4: check this out. We should do this over this nigga 618 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 4: don't listen to it. 619 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 3: He don't listen to it. So we on my album. 620 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 3: So I'm like, I'm gonna take that Lovers and Friends 621 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 3: I did and do it from my album. 622 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 4: So I do the beat over and I let Usher 623 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 4: know yo, I got this joint for us, like, come 624 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 4: you know. 625 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 3: Let's do it. 626 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 4: So he flies in, he records it and he's out 627 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 4: and after he does his part, so I'm just like, wow, 628 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 4: this is a smash. 629 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 3: So I called Luda. 630 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 4: I'm like, bro, we got another one, like I need 631 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 4: you on his asap, saying it to Luda. He did 632 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 4: his part and then I go in last because I'm 633 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 4: not the rapper, and so I was like, I need 634 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 4: to take my time to make sure my verse is 635 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 4: as catchy as possible because I can't compete against Luda Chris. 636 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 4: And then it's Usher like come on. So I was like, 637 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 4: let me take something from this record. We had a 638 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 4: record called It's a record we did with Ubi. 639 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: I forgot the name of it. 640 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: Nothing Free, Nothing Free, you forget that that's a classic. 641 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 3: Nothing's free. 642 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 4: So we did nothing free like in the nineties, and 643 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 4: so I was like, that shady part was really catchy 644 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 4: on that song, but it was regional. Nobody really heard 645 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 4: it out of the South. So it's like, let me 646 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 4: take that same little thing and put that in Lovers 647 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 4: and Friends, and that will be the little catch for 648 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 4: my verse to make it catchier and a little Did 649 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 4: I know that that was gonna be. 650 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 3: Like people's favorite verses because it's so simple. 651 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 4: It's so simple and it's catchy, and yeah, that's one 652 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 4: of That song went number one without. 653 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 3: A video. 654 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 4: Because it was the labels and Superstartists and Superstar. 655 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 3: Ad and Da Da Da Da Da. 656 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 4: But number one song rap song of the year without 657 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 4: a video in the two thousands is impossible. 658 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 5: You got three of and you made me think of 659 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 5: it when you said nothing for You got three artists 660 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 5: that I feel like should have been way yeah, China White, yeah, 661 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 5: Oubie and Bull Hagen Yeah what you What do you think? 662 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: Was why did I didn't connect? 663 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 4: We worked hard, like UBI was with me for a 664 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 4: long time. We did a lot of records, but we 665 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 4: just never got the right one. Just how It just 666 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 4: happens like that sometimes with artists. Uh, China went to 667 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 4: jail right when we shot the video for Bea Bea 668 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 4: and me and my boy Rob Mac left the video 669 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 4: at the end of the video shoot. 670 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 3: We drove her to prison after the video shoot, all 671 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 3: the way in Louisiana. So she did. I don't remember 672 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 3: how much time it was. It was at least five years. 673 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: That sound mixed deliriously. 674 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 3: She went to fan time for gun Running Damn yeah. 675 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 4: So she she didn't even get to perform the song 676 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 4: at his peak at all, so that that messed her 677 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,719 Speaker 4: window up. And then bo Haggen the same thing. We 678 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 4: were just trying to get the records. We just never 679 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 4: got the records. 680 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 3: You know. 681 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 4: We said, I set them up nicely and get crunk 682 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,959 Speaker 4: and you know he did the hook on Dan, but 683 00:30:58,960 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 4: we just never. 684 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 3: Was able to translate. 685 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 4: Those are things that you know, hurt me to this 686 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 4: day because those were people that. 687 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 3: Are down with me for a long time and I. 688 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 4: Was pushing, pushing, pushing and working they make the record, 689 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 4: but sometimes they just it just don't come out. 690 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 6: You know. 691 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 7: I was going to say with the Lovers and Friends 692 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 7: video when I when I watched you tell the story 693 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 7: you talked about. I know you mentioned labels loosely, but 694 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 7: you said that the labels didn't look at you as 695 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 7: a comparable artist too. Yeah, which when I heard, like, 696 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 7: I just I mean, I don't know, it made me 697 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 7: upset when I heard you say. 698 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 4: Well, you gotta think Ludacris is a rapper death Jam. 699 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 4: In the two thousands, Usher is fucking Usher at Monster, 700 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 4: biggest guy in R and B. And I'm this guy 701 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 4: doing krunk music. You got it. 702 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 3: It's not the time, it's not the same times. 703 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 4: Now as I'm I'm known, I'm established, I've proven myself 704 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 4: over and over again. But early in those in those days, 705 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 4: it hadn't happened yet. 706 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 5: So really, yeah, they feel like you helped the I 707 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 5: ain't that whole sound of the early. 708 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 4: Dude, but they didn't. I don't feel like, you know, 709 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 4: death jam, you know what I mean? Oh sure, I 710 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 4: don't think nobody got it back then. No, Yeah, lou 711 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 4: John was it was. 712 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,000 Speaker 2: He wasn't looked at as an artist per se like 713 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 2: Luda or exactly Usher. He was a host, DJ production. 714 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 3: Yeah that's what it was, hype man, producer. Yeah, you know, 715 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 3: that's the. 716 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 5: Clubs without you know, what was. 717 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: The clubs without crunk music? Little John back then like no. 718 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 3: A lot less energy. 719 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 2: Was it ever a low period for Little John? 720 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? 721 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 4: I got burnt out probably after after the forties album, 722 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 4: and I think I tried, we tried to do a 723 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 4: second Trillville and Scrappy album, and I just was. 724 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 3: Fried from all. 725 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 4: You know, you got to think about I was going 726 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 4: since the nineties, ninety three, you know, producing to was 727 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 4: that two thousand and eight or nine two thousand and eight, 728 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 4: and I'm I'm just depleted. I have no creative juices left. 729 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 4: I go in the studio, I'm trying to produce and 730 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 4: trying to make stuff. I think, yet nothing's coming out. 731 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 4: I think that's also what happened with two of those 732 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 4: artists too, because I might have gotten to the point 733 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 4: where I was. 734 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 3: Just had nothing left. I couldn't I couldn't create it. 735 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 4: And then so what I started to do was just 736 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 4: go back to the foundation DJ, go back to the clubs. 737 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 4: And what happened was Reggie Bush invited me out to 738 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 4: the first game in the super Dome after Katrina. 739 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 3: So I went there and that night he had an 740 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 3: after party. 741 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 4: Went to the after party and it was a DJ 742 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 4: DJ and I was just like, this dude is freaking dope. 743 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 4: So I met the dude and he was cool and 744 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 4: so the next day his. 745 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 3: Name is DJ Spider. 746 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 4: So the next day we were I was in the 747 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 4: airport and this nerdy white dude come up to me like, 748 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 4: hey remember me? Like who the He was like, oh, Spider, 749 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 4: I was DJing last night. I was like, oh shit, 750 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 4: So what happened was he really inspired me to get 751 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 4: back into DJing by the way he was mixing. So 752 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 4: me and Spider linked up. He like got me on Serado, 753 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 4: he started like gave me, helped me get my music 754 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 4: library up, and we started DJing together. So I started 755 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 4: to kind of get back into DJing. And so DJing 756 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 4: brought my producer creative energy back. 757 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: Is that when the records like Shot Shot Shots and 758 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:27,879 Speaker 1: all that stuff came. 759 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 4: That came just by me being out and meeting people 760 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,240 Speaker 4: and and you know learning this you know, Open Format 761 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 4: World and EDM World, and yeah, I ended up meeting lmfao. 762 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 4: I was kind of following their story and uh a 763 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 4: mutual friend of ours named Eric Deluxe who kind of 764 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 4: he wrote shots too. U. He reached out to me 765 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 4: and sent me to record. I was like, this record 766 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 4: is a smash. But around that time, I think I 767 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 4: first met them when we did a pit Bull video. 768 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 4: We were on like I think it was crazy. I 769 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 4: think they were in that video. So I was kind of. 770 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 3: Working with Pittbull because we did the anthem we did Crazy. 771 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 4: Then Yeah shots came so I was still I started 772 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 4: to move into another world because I saw that EDM world. 773 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 4: I kind of jumped in right at just starting to 774 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 4: get crazy, and I ended up getting a DJ residency 775 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 4: in eight in Vegas. So I've been in Vegas doing 776 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 4: a DJ residency since eight and I'm still there now. 777 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,120 Speaker 4: So that was a place where I could really, you know, 778 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 4: learn a different style, this open format world, and just 779 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 4: get my energy back from just being in the midst 780 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 4: of the people and understanding what makes people move and 781 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:42,439 Speaker 4: groove again. 782 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 3: Because DJing is the foundation of my production. 783 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 4: Like I think I started playing the drums when I 784 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 4: was in elementary school, So drums and DJing are the 785 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 4: two key elements to my production style. That's why it's 786 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 4: more beat driven, and that's why they're all club records. 787 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 5: DJ side when you choose the pivot because you know 788 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 5: you've pivoted a lot. When you choose the pivot, is 789 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 5: it because of where music is going or where you're 790 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 5: going as a person? 791 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 3: Where my spirit leaves me? My spirit? 792 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,760 Speaker 4: You know, when I started to get back into djaying, 793 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 4: God put these people in my path to say, okay, 794 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 4: you should now start moving over here. And I remember 795 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 4: like telling my manager and my lawyer, I want to 796 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 4: go over here and do this DJ stuff. They like, bro, 797 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,919 Speaker 4: you making one hundred grand or beat? What the hell 798 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 4: is wrong with you? I was like, I can't do 799 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 4: it no more. 800 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 3: But I saw the future and I just trust. I 801 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 3: always trust my spirit. 802 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 4: Ladies and gentlemen, don't listen to your mind, listen to 803 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 4: your spirit. And you got to learn the difference between 804 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,360 Speaker 4: the two. And when you learn the difference, your spirit 805 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,759 Speaker 4: is never gonna lead you wrong. Trust it and it's 806 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 4: gonna be fine. And that's what I've been doing, you know, 807 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 4: pretty much my whole life, and everything's been okay, you 808 00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,439 Speaker 4: know what I mean. Like I've been able to now 809 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 4: have a number one dium song, hip hop song, R 810 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 4: and B song, AC song. How many people you know 811 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 4: had a hit song in every in four decades? 812 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 3: Right? You know? 813 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 4: We had a hit with even the usher Glue song. 814 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 4: I think it was an AC hit number one, I 815 00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 4: take it. And then I had a song with Pitt 816 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 4: Bull that came out two years ago called Jumping that 817 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 4: was like number one on some Charge. So yeah, since 818 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 4: the nineties, I've been doing this and I'm just thankful 819 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 4: every day to wake up and to still be able 820 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 4: to do this, and to also like, right now is 821 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 4: the time where the two thousands is on fire? Yeah, Like, yes, 822 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 4: it's on Like I'm doing so many shows that and 823 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 4: and for crowds that I haven't seen and you know, 824 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 4: or maybe not have done. 825 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 3: It's a headline. 826 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 4: I have never headlined for ten thousand people until like 827 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 4: the last couple of years Tackles. Yeah, So it's like, 828 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 4: it's amazing that that people the memories that people have 829 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 4: from that era, the fun time they had. It's making 830 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 4: this music you know now come back and it's in 831 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 4: a major. 832 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 6: Way made you what made you do the meditation? 833 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 2: So that's totally far the other end of the spectrum. 834 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, turning fifty, turn fifty, a lot of things started 835 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,919 Speaker 4: to happen in my life. First thing I it hit 836 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 4: me was like I asked myself what makes you happy? 837 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 3: And I said, damn, only. 838 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 4: Making sure everybody else good, but that's not what makes me. 839 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 3: Like what makes me happy? 840 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 4: I couldn't really tell myself, and so I was like, 841 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 4: you know what, I need to kind of put myself first. 842 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:55,439 Speaker 3: Like I'm not happy in this marriage. Like, so I said, 843 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 3: I want to do divorce. 844 00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 4: And I was around the same time, me and my 845 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 4: my good friend Doug Davis. We talked like every year 846 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 4: because he calls and gives me shit because he's he's 847 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 4: like a couple months younger than me, so he's like, oh, 848 00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 4: you're old man. 849 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 3: So we're talking and. 850 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 4: He was telling me he wanted to introduce me to 851 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 4: somebody that was in this space and I was like, oh, 852 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 4: that's interesting because I've been listening to like all of this. 853 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 3: Like by neural beats to sleep. 854 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 4: And relax and ocean and rain and all of this 855 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,839 Speaker 4: type of stuff. So me and this guy kuld Bear, 856 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 4: his name is caber Sego, we connected. And so I'm 857 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 4: going through the divorce and like I didn't like where 858 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 4: my mental state was at because I'm angry. I'm like, ah, 859 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 4: why can't she just do this and that? And so 860 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 4: I'm like mad, and I don't like, that's not me. 861 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 4: I'm a positive at all times person. I don't think negatively. 862 00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 4: So I'm like, I started to like meditate. I started 863 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 4: to say affirmations every day, and it helped me to 864 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 4: be in a better mental state, as well as having 865 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 4: good people in my corner, like my queen. 866 00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 3: Her name is Jamila. She was there for me at 867 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 3: that time, and she would give me. 868 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 4: Like also like just positive. She would just keep me, 869 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 4: try to keep me in a positive mindset. And she 870 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,399 Speaker 4: had been through a rough divorce too, so she can 871 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 4: give me some insight and just you know, help me 872 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 4: keep my head up. So the affirmations every day, I 873 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 4: would literally get a cup of tea and I had 874 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 4: a copper pyramid on my deck. I'll drink, get my tea, 875 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 4: go sit in this copper pyramid and meditate and just 876 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 4: say these affirmations. I'm happy, I'm healthy, I'm at peace 877 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 4: every single day and throughout the day. And so all 878 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 4: of this happened at the same time I meet Caber 879 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 4: and me and Caber are talking. He's like, let's do 880 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,920 Speaker 4: we should do meditation. I was like, yeah, let's do that. 881 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:56,640 Speaker 3: I'm down with that. 882 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 4: I think that's great. Because I was saying these affirmations 883 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 4: I meditated. So we went in, we recorded a bunch 884 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 4: of stuff. But yeah, it was because I needed it 885 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 4: was time for a change in my life. I needed 886 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 4: to be in more positive mindset. One thing that I 887 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 4: also did was I was like, I would say, affirmations 888 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 4: of negativity can live inside of me. 889 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 3: I like, I don't. I try to get rid of 890 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 3: all negative thoughts. 891 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 4: And when I did that, when I really got rid 892 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 4: of the negative thoughts, I ain't not even saying the 893 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 4: word hate, I didn't even use that word. So I'm 894 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 4: always trying to change anything that happens to me. In 895 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 4: any negative situation, it's some positivity you can pull out 896 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 4: of that you focus on that. So I would always 897 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 4: pull that positivity out. And I've learned if you pull 898 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 4: that out, pull pull a positivity out of any negative situation, 899 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 4: and you let God drive, don't try to drive and 900 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 4: trust God, everything ain't gonna always be all right. And 901 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 4: so we went in, we recorded these albums, and you know, 902 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 4: this time of my life is feeling like I'm doing 903 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 4: what God intended me to do. But what's amazing is 904 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,040 Speaker 4: everything that got me here. I was supposed to do. 905 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 3: And even like all of the music that I've. 906 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,279 Speaker 4: Given people gave people positivity. So it's always been positivity, 907 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 4: but it's meaning more now when someone tells me I 908 00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 4: never meditated, you helped me meditate. I was having trouble 909 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 4: getting over this grief of losing someone. 910 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 3: Your meditation about grief helped me. I'm inspired to do. 911 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 4: You know how many people have called me about getting 912 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 4: in the gym. It's insane, Like celebrities, all kind of 913 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 4: people are like, you inspired me to get healthy. So 914 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,719 Speaker 4: I feel now like I'm doing what God intended me 915 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 4: to do. It took me a long time to get here, 916 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 4: but this is the time it's supposed to be and crazy. 917 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 4: I was thinking about this the other day. I met 918 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 4: mister Farrakhan at the Source Awards and he basically told me, 919 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 4: he said, you got power, you got a voice, and 920 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,279 Speaker 4: he basically was kind of trying to tell me, like 921 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 4: use it and that like that stuck with me, Like 922 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, but now I'm using my voice and 923 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 4: my power in a good way to push positivity into 924 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 4: the world. 925 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 6: So that is what makes you happy. 926 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 4: That's what that's what you know. Yeah, it makes me 927 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 4: happy that just to be just to do good, you know, 928 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 4: just to do good because all that comes back. 929 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 3: And when you. 930 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,960 Speaker 4: Like, a guy came to me, I did the col 931 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 4: of Guard thing, right, A guy came to me in 932 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 4: the club one night in the club and was like, 933 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 4: I did that col of Guard test because of you, 934 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 4: and it came back positive, and he did he didn't 935 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,440 Speaker 4: have hold and cancer, but he had polyps. So just 936 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,439 Speaker 4: stuff like that, it just makes me feel like I'm 937 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 4: doing good in the workpirate people and being a good 938 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:11,959 Speaker 4: role model to my son. 939 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 3: I have a daughter now, you know, she's ten months old. Congratulation. 940 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:22,839 Speaker 4: I look at life like with health like I got 941 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,359 Speaker 4: to be here for her, you know what I'm saying. 942 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 4: I gotta be here for her first day of school. 943 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 4: I gotta be here for high school graduation, walk her 944 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 4: down the aisle. So health is even more important than me. 945 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 4: It was something I was doing to just you know, 946 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 4: live a long, full life. But even more so now 947 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 4: I have even more motivation because of my daughter. 948 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 3: And her mother. I got to be here for them, 949 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:41,959 Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. 950 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 5: So it's crazy to see you cry because a lot 951 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 5: of people who never even thought you had ice. 952 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,200 Speaker 3: No, you know what, black man, we need to cry. 953 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 1: So we need to cry. 954 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 4: When you get more in tune to your higher self 955 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,280 Speaker 4: and you stop vibrating at these low frequencies, you can. 956 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,439 Speaker 3: Let yourself, let the energy flow. We should. We don't 957 00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 3: have to be tough all the time. And you're an. 958 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 4: Advocate for therapy. I push all brothers. We don't have 959 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,919 Speaker 4: to suffer in silence. We suffer in freaking silence. Call 960 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 4: your homie sometime to just be like, my nigga, you good? 961 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 3: How you doing? Not just period, but how you mentally doing? Bro, 962 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:19,240 Speaker 3: Because that one. 963 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 4: Little conversation could make him not go do some stupid 964 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 4: shit or take his life or whatever. 965 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 3: You know. 966 00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 4: So I started doing therapy. I push anything, any knowledge 967 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 4: that I got, I try to share with everybody because 968 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 4: we got to help each other. 969 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:39,720 Speaker 1: We all we got what's the gym? What's the gymy? 970 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 4: This is a trying, This is positivity abundance and it's 971 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 4: also my daughter's birthstone. 972 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. 973 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 5: I want to ask you a question about about marriage. 974 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 5: Like you never hear men say they were tired of 975 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,240 Speaker 5: the marriage, like they wanted to walk away. 976 00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 4: What happens is when you start to walk on those eggshells. 977 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 4: It's just not it's just not a positive environment. And 978 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 4: then when you get to the point where a lot 979 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 4: of times in marriage, we're just there making sure everything's good, 980 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,160 Speaker 4: and who the hell checking on us, who's making sure 981 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,720 Speaker 4: we okay? Who's making who's coming to us and saying 982 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:17,800 Speaker 4: what do you need today? 983 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 3: What can I do for you to make you happy? 984 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 3: You know? I know we're the providers and all of that, 985 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 3: but we need that love too. We need that assurance. 986 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 4: Sometimes women go to your men and just make them 987 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 4: feel like, appreciate it because to live in today's society, 988 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 4: to go out and make that money and all of 989 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 4: the things a husband and a father has to worry 990 00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,760 Speaker 4: about every single day, Like I said, suffering in silence 991 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,879 Speaker 4: that y'all have no clue about. Just be that positive light, 992 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 4: make that house a home, make it radiate positivity. 993 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 3: You know. So yeah, man, y'all got me up here crime. 994 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,600 Speaker 6: You might have needed to release you know. 995 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:05,120 Speaker 2: You know what I wanted to know when when Dave 996 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,359 Speaker 2: Chappelle was doing the skits at first, did you take 997 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 2: it as disrespectful? Did you always was like, oh this 998 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 2: is great? 999 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 4: No, A cipher sounds called me and he was like 1000 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 4: when he did the first one, and he was like, Yo, Dave. 1001 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 3: Chappelle did this skit on you, Bro, It's crazy, it's hilarious. 1002 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 3: I was like, on me, I'm like, why are you 1003 00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 3: doing sketch on me? Like I ain't nobody. 1004 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 4: And he's like, bro, trust me. And so when I 1005 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,719 Speaker 4: saw it, I was like, that's really me. 1006 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:32,759 Speaker 3: That is really me. 1007 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 4: And I got on this show because I went one 1008 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 4: day to just tell Dave thank you for doing the sketches, 1009 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 4: because we have a mutual a friend's named Corey Smith, 1010 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 4: and Cory is the reason Dave is part of the 1011 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 4: reason Dave does the sketch too, because I think they 1012 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 4: might have heard this song, like what song was it? 1013 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,399 Speaker 3: I don't give Yeah, I don't give him. He might 1014 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 3: have heard it, and he probably was like this would 1015 00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 3: be interesting if that's all he says. But he's actually intelligent. 1016 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 4: And then Corey was like, yeah, John, Corey thought I 1017 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 4: went to morehouse. I just was always hanging out in 1018 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 4: the AUC because back in the nineties, if you're from Atlanta, 1019 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,840 Speaker 4: you went to the AUC, Clark, all of that to 1020 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,360 Speaker 4: just get girls, you know what I mean. So you 1021 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,239 Speaker 4: just used to go holler at the girls. So I 1022 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 4: used to be always up there. So Corey was like, no, 1023 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,399 Speaker 4: he's smart, he come from this and that. So Dave 1024 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,799 Speaker 4: ran with it, and so I went to the show 1025 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 4: to thank Dave and Day was like, man, hang out, 1026 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 4: I want you to. 1027 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 3: Let's do a sketch. 1028 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 4: Like he didn't even have it, he didn't even know 1029 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 4: I was coming, and so we was just we did 1030 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 4: one sketch and then he had an idea to do 1031 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 4: another one, so he just had me on camera and 1032 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 4: he was off camera, and we was improving back and forth, 1033 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 4: and that's how. 1034 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,880 Speaker 3: We got the Little John and Little John sketch. 1035 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,239 Speaker 4: And to think that I was able to improv with 1036 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,879 Speaker 4: one of the greatest comedians of our time. How many 1037 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,400 Speaker 4: people get to do that? Not many, you know, So 1038 00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,760 Speaker 4: that was that was amazing. And Dave took me places 1039 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 4: that music would never ever be able to take me. 1040 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 1: How did that change everything for you? Just that sketch. 1041 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,240 Speaker 4: It just opened me up to more people that didn't 1042 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 4: get it or didn't would have never listened to the music. 1043 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,359 Speaker 4: I remember just being in the airport and like all 1044 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 4: kinds of white people coming to me, like the whole 1045 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 4: families and all just all types of people because he 1046 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,880 Speaker 4: was moving the needle at that time for the culture. 1047 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 4: So and it just yeah, it just opened up a 1048 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 4: lot more doors. 1049 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,280 Speaker 6: And that's when they started putting the t's in the name. 1050 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 3: Little John. 1051 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,480 Speaker 4: That yeah so and shout out to Cat Williams too, 1052 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 4: because he he co signed me too when he did 1053 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 4: his Pimp Chronicles. 1054 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,200 Speaker 3: I think that's his greatest special to. I'm going on 1055 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 3: record saying that. 1056 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 4: And you know, we he brought me out and let 1057 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 4: me do my catchphrases and we ended up going in 1058 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,480 Speaker 4: the studio working on some songs together. He come by 1059 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,480 Speaker 4: the house, shout out the cat. I need to get 1060 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,279 Speaker 4: you in the gym with me. Cat, you can go 1061 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,000 Speaker 4: work out, you can run, but can you push them 1062 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 4: wight up? 1063 00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? Do that to do? 1064 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 2: People come up to you all the time like come 1065 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,320 Speaker 2: on one time, Oh. 1066 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,920 Speaker 3: My god, could be yeah. Man, they don't do it 1067 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 3: as much as they used to. 1068 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 4: But like people that used to hang out with me, 1069 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 4: like say too early two thousands are you know twenty 1070 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:21,879 Speaker 4: tens used to be like, bro, you don't get tired 1071 00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:22,080 Speaker 4: of that? 1072 00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 3: And I'm like I don't even hear it no more. 1073 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 4: I zone them people out but like, yeah, I used 1074 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:30,600 Speaker 4: to be a like TSA a grocery store exactly, and 1075 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,319 Speaker 4: they do it, so they they expect me to do it, 1076 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:34,959 Speaker 4: so they keep doing it and I might just. 1077 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:39,400 Speaker 1: Be like, what's up, bro, meditation album? 1078 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 7: You do it's a soft yeah, but you yeah, yeah. 1079 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 4: So that's the new the new meditation album. So when 1080 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:51,120 Speaker 4: we did the first, we recorded a bunch of stuff. 1081 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 3: When we you know, early too well. Sorry. 1082 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,120 Speaker 4: When I did the first meditation album, I recorded a 1083 00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:01,400 Speaker 4: couple other projects. So one of the projects was something 1084 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 4: that my my god, Doug Davis came up with. He 1085 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 4: was like, you should take your songs and remix them 1086 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 4: into meditations, and I was like okay, So we recorded it, 1087 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,839 Speaker 4: but I was like, this don't need to come out 1088 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 4: first because nobody's gonna take me serious. 1089 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:21,560 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna like, yeah, get low and ground, you know. 1090 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,760 Speaker 4: So I was like, we're not gonna do that first, 1091 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 4: So now the time we're gonna drop that. I think 1092 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 4: it's a fun project, but it's real meditations, but it's 1093 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 4: just a playoff of the songs that you know and love. 1094 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 5: I just got a couple of questions, you know, the 1095 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 5: industry rewards constant energy, right, like you gotta always be on. 1096 00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:43,319 Speaker 5: How did you learn the difference between performance energy and 1097 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:44,279 Speaker 5: just personal peace? 1098 00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 4: I just in myself it's spiritual again, Like I'm just 1099 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,319 Speaker 4: I just know when to be crazy little John, I know, 1100 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:53,279 Speaker 4: be going to be. 1101 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 3: Just cool, chill. 1102 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 1: It's just just. 1103 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:57,919 Speaker 3: Let my spirit got me everywhere, you know what I'm saying. 1104 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 5: So and you talking about the meditation and the mindful 1105 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,239 Speaker 5: this like what I would ask when you at the 1106 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 5: height of crump. Did you even have the language for 1107 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 5: like stress and anxiety and burnout back then? 1108 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:09,799 Speaker 3: No, I didn't. 1109 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,359 Speaker 4: I was just go go go go, go, go, go, go, go, 1110 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 4: go go go. It was all just cause I don't 1111 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 4: I don't know where the peak is, you know what 1112 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,279 Speaker 4: I mean? And I don't even expect to get where 1113 00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,799 Speaker 4: I got, you know, because I just started off me 1114 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 4: and the East Side Boys. We did that first song 1115 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 4: who You With, just to make something for the clubs 1116 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 4: of Atlanta, and then that turned into Okay, now you 1117 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 4: gotta do an album, and then that turned into being 1118 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,600 Speaker 4: on Anger Management tour with Eminem and fifty cent, and 1119 00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 4: then fifty cent even took me to Australia. 1120 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,480 Speaker 3: I went on tour with fifty in Australia, you know 1121 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,160 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. So it's like I'm just happy to 1122 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 3: be here. 1123 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,719 Speaker 4: I'm just gonna keep going because and that's how I am, Like, 1124 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,440 Speaker 4: I just I gotta work. I gotta keep working, you know, 1125 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,400 Speaker 4: because these are opportunities that are coming to me. So 1126 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,799 Speaker 4: I don't want to you know, somebody sitting at home 1127 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 4: right now wishing they could be out or somebody else 1128 00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 4: could take this opportunity and use it if I don't 1129 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 4: use it. 1130 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,480 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna take advantage of all of that. 1131 00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:02,880 Speaker 4: Now. 1132 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 2: You are a big drink at one time and totally 1133 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:07,360 Speaker 2: stopped Yes, yeah, what made you stop that drinking? 1134 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:09,319 Speaker 3: Turning fifty. 1135 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 2: To fifty to stop drinking? 1136 00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,920 Speaker 5: Ye, judge, judgment, you still. 1137 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:17,720 Speaker 1: Damn. 1138 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,160 Speaker 4: So I turned fifty and for a while, like a 1139 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,840 Speaker 4: year or two, I had this constant like discomfort, excuse me, 1140 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,319 Speaker 4: discomfort in my side and I didn't know what it was. 1141 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 3: So fifty like I. 1142 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 4: Need to go get a I need to go to 1143 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,799 Speaker 4: a doctor, right, So I went to the doctor and 1144 00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 4: the doctor is like, okay, for one is I thought 1145 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:39,799 Speaker 4: it was my liver because I'm like, I drink too much. 1146 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,440 Speaker 4: It's got to be my liver, and I'm scared. So 1147 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,839 Speaker 4: he's like, your liver's on the other side. 1148 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 3: It's not your li. 1149 00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:53,080 Speaker 4: And then he's like, it's probably inflammation in your gut. 1150 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,320 Speaker 4: He's like, you're you're fifty years old. You need a 1151 00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 4: colonoscopy anyway to check for polyps. So when I'm in there, 1152 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 4: I can check. I can do an endoscopy and check 1153 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:08,480 Speaker 4: your gut. So comes back and I have inflammation in 1154 00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 4: my gut. So I had stopped drinking because I was 1155 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 4: scared of deliver. So I had already stopped. So by 1156 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 4: the time I had the colonoscoy, it had been like 1157 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 4: six months, and I was like, I'm good, I'm just. 1158 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:22,799 Speaker 3: Gonna not drink no more. So I think I was 1159 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 3: going like three months and I was like six months. 1160 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 3: I was like nah. 1161 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 4: Then I was like maybe I go nine months. Then 1162 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 4: I went to a year, and I was like when 1163 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,000 Speaker 4: I got to the year mark, I was like, I'm good, 1164 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,400 Speaker 4: I don't even need to drink no more, you know. 1165 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:39,640 Speaker 4: And I think one thing that kind of that that 1166 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,799 Speaker 4: like brought some insight to me, like health has been 1167 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,480 Speaker 4: like important me for a while because I knew like 1168 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,239 Speaker 4: a guy that had a triple bypass. 1169 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 3: He was like thirty five. 1170 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,399 Speaker 4: So that started me first on my like I need 1171 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:56,359 Speaker 4: to start correcting stuff with myself before it's too late, 1172 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,400 Speaker 4: because the older you get, the harder it is to 1173 00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,880 Speaker 4: reverse what's going on. So that's that started. And then 1174 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 4: when I was dating my partner Jamila, she really pushed 1175 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,239 Speaker 4: me into I think she saved my life because she 1176 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 4: pushed me into getting my blood work done and getting 1177 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:13,360 Speaker 4: lab work done. 1178 00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,839 Speaker 3: I found out I had inflammation in my gut. 1179 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:18,840 Speaker 4: Like I knew I had inflammation in my gut, but 1180 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 4: I candida gut is the key to a lot of 1181 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:23,920 Speaker 4: problems in your body, so you got to get the 1182 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 4: I saw the rock talking and he said his gut 1183 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,319 Speaker 4: was messed up too, So no healthy bacteria in my gut, 1184 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:34,080 Speaker 4: Candida inflammation. And then I found other markers in my 1185 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,800 Speaker 4: blood work that I was like, oh, I gotta change 1186 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,839 Speaker 4: this or take this out of my diet. So all 1187 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:44,040 Speaker 4: of that helped me to like hone in on exactly 1188 00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,880 Speaker 4: what I needed to do also to get my health 1189 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:48,360 Speaker 4: like more. 1190 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 3: Tuned tuned in too. 1191 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,520 Speaker 6: I saw you say it was like it came out 1192 00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,520 Speaker 6: of a like a a haze. 1193 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,920 Speaker 4: Stop drinking because if you think about it, I was 1194 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:03,480 Speaker 4: drinking every weekend, so I never fully got over the drinking. 1195 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:08,240 Speaker 3: Like I would drink a bottle of forty two a night, Jesus, Jesus, 1196 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,840 Speaker 3: Like so Friday, Saturday a bottle of forty two. 1197 00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 7: Acoholic drinking, but all the lights, a whole bottle every. 1198 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 3: Because I'm doing shots. 1199 00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 6: We might do a couple of shots, but we ain't 1200 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:22,879 Speaker 6: doing a whole bottle. 1201 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:24,839 Speaker 3: I'm the party guy. 1202 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 4: We don't want to drink with me, and I got 1203 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,439 Speaker 4: to drink with everybody. When I turned down the shot, 1204 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 4: they were like, bro, come on, man, yeah, so I 1205 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 4: gotta damn near a bottle of night. 1206 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 3: So I'm always constantly. 1207 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,440 Speaker 4: Getting over the hangover or the getting My body is 1208 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:44,239 Speaker 4: still trying to recover, so I never am recovering. So 1209 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:47,200 Speaker 4: when you lay off the alcohol, you come out of 1210 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:53,359 Speaker 4: that fog and it's like it's like everything is clearer, everything, 1211 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 4: you know. So I just I like the way that felt. 1212 00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,799 Speaker 4: And then you know, when I started working out, it's 1213 00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:03,319 Speaker 4: like I can work out like you can't work out 1214 00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,480 Speaker 4: when you hungover. And then you put an alcohol in 1215 00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,360 Speaker 4: your body. That's sugar, that's that's not gonna help you 1216 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:08,880 Speaker 4: get the goals. 1217 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,240 Speaker 5: So if you write a book, you know it should 1218 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 5: be to have a chapter turned down for what and 1219 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 5: you talk about exactly all the reasons why you ask 1220 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:14,799 Speaker 5: you turn down. 1221 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, especially especially when you get in your up there 1222 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,720 Speaker 4: in the years, you know, because right I'm fifty three, 1223 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,080 Speaker 4: I'm going down the hill, you know what I mean. 1224 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 4: I want to have That's another thing. At my fifties, 1225 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 4: I was like, I'm over that top. I don't know 1226 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 4: how much time I got. I want to enjoy my life. 1227 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:32,920 Speaker 4: I want to enjoy my life. I want to do 1228 00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 4: stuff that makes me happy. 1229 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 5: Do you think people truly understand the loneliness that can 1230 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:38,840 Speaker 5: come with success and entertainment. 1231 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:45,320 Speaker 4: No, because they just see the private jets and the 1232 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:46,600 Speaker 4: trips and all that. 1233 00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 3: They don't realize. 1234 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 4: You know, sometimes you can't go nowhere because people bugging you. 1235 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 4: You can't spend time with your loved ones without people 1236 00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 4: bugging you, or the the I gotta make another hit record, 1237 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,600 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like or even when you 1238 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,760 Speaker 4: start to go down, you're not as hot as you were, 1239 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,080 Speaker 4: people not picking up the phone and all that. 1240 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:08,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a. 1241 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,240 Speaker 4: Lot of most people couldn't deal with this life. It 1242 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 4: could not deal with it because it's too much pressure. 1243 00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,440 Speaker 4: Then people on the internet with all their opinions and 1244 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,720 Speaker 4: all of this and that, and it's a lot of 1245 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,160 Speaker 4: pressure that you cannot be built weak to be in 1246 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 4: entertainment industry. 1247 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:28,000 Speaker 5: So yes, sir, when you my last question, when you 1248 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,480 Speaker 5: think about legacy, now, how much of it is about 1249 00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:31,720 Speaker 5: peace and purpose. 1250 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 1: Rather than I guess the plaques and the parties and 1251 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 1: all that. 1252 00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 4: I think my legacy is going to be all about 1253 00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 4: positivity because every step of the way it's been crunk 1254 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 4: was positive. It was a positive release. Then EDM stuff 1255 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:50,920 Speaker 4: was positive, positive part It was all partying based initially. 1256 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 4: But it wasn't like I was saying go do a 1257 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 4: drive by on the ops, you know what I mean. 1258 00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 4: It was just like, hey go release, turn up, you know. 1259 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:08,480 Speaker 4: And then you know, now in my latter years, it's meditation, mindfulness, 1260 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,800 Speaker 4: get therapy, fellas I'm gonna tell everybody out there, get therapy, 1261 00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 4: get a therapy. If it's going through it. You should 1262 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,800 Speaker 4: not be left to your own devices to deal with 1263 00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 4: some serious issues. Sometimes you need to talk to someone 1264 00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 4: that's a qualified person. And I did em dr. 1265 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:27,960 Speaker 3: Did you ever do Mdr? 1266 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:32,440 Speaker 4: EMDR is amazing because it taps into your subconscious. When 1267 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 4: I did em DR, stuff came out that I didn't 1268 00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,840 Speaker 4: even really didn't know what's there. So it can tap 1269 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:39,760 Speaker 4: to the it can find the root of why you 1270 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:40,520 Speaker 4: got that trauma. 1271 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,520 Speaker 3: And then like, so, yeah, I have not done any 1272 00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:45,040 Speaker 3: of that yet. 1273 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,880 Speaker 4: I don't want to do it. I'm thinking about it, 1274 00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 4: but I don't want to. I don't want it to 1275 00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 4: change me. It won't because I just feel like I'm 1276 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,680 Speaker 4: already at a certain place. But I do want to 1277 00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 4: go tap into those things that I have locked deep 1278 00:59:59,320 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 4: deep depail. 1279 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 5: A lot of people who've done D and MAR tell 1280 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,200 Speaker 5: me that the experience is pretty similar because it's just 1281 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,440 Speaker 5: everything that is in your subconscious that you suppressed. 1282 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,120 Speaker 1: God is like, no, look at it. Yeah, it's all 1283 01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:10,840 Speaker 1: on the table. 1284 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,000 Speaker 6: A scary feeling that stuff. 1285 01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:14,720 Speaker 3: No, it's just it's profound. 1286 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 4: Em DR is profound because it's like that's why I 1287 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,520 Speaker 4: act like that, or that's why my mother treated me 1288 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,640 Speaker 4: that way, or this is why that happened. It helps 1289 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:27,960 Speaker 4: you and then like em DR, like when I did 1290 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,600 Speaker 4: it recently, I was able to go to my childhood 1291 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:36,560 Speaker 4: self and say it's okay, I'm here, it's fine, You're 1292 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 4: you're loved, you're appreciated, you know, all of that, and 1293 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 4: it helped me to get. 1294 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:43,520 Speaker 3: Past whatever that was. 1295 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,920 Speaker 4: So that's why I like it, because it's stuff that, 1296 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:51,040 Speaker 4: you know, because I was kind of not forced, but 1297 01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,760 Speaker 4: I was like, someone was like, you should, you know, go, 1298 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,400 Speaker 4: you should try it, you know, because it helped them. 1299 01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,040 Speaker 3: And I did it and I was like, man, I'm good. 1300 01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:01,560 Speaker 1: I don't need this. 1301 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 3: And then I was like, damn, it's like I did 1302 01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:06,479 Speaker 3: not know that. 1303 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,160 Speaker 4: And the more you do it, the more stuff comes 1304 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 4: to you and you just realize this is. 1305 01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 3: Why I'm the way I am. 1306 01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:16,800 Speaker 4: I can now get past this and I can change 1307 01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,960 Speaker 4: these habits, you know, and I. 1308 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 3: Can be living more. I can live a better life. Wow. 1309 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:26,920 Speaker 5: Man, little John, you are an icon, living living and 1310 01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:28,520 Speaker 5: one of the greatest producers of all time. 1311 01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,000 Speaker 1: You bought people so much joy. 1312 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:31,920 Speaker 5: In this next chapter of your life where you are 1313 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 5: helping people heal, I think it's gonna be your best 1314 01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:34,960 Speaker 5: work yet. 1315 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,240 Speaker 3: But brother, I do too. I do to. 1316 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,520 Speaker 4: It feels so good when people come to me and 1317 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:44,960 Speaker 4: say you help me, you know, without me even directly 1318 01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,200 Speaker 4: doing anything for them, I'm helping so many people and 1319 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:52,200 Speaker 4: inspiring people like with the with the fitness journey, with 1320 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:55,320 Speaker 4: the you know, the bodybuilding thing, coming in third in 1321 01:01:55,360 --> 01:02:00,200 Speaker 4: this competition. I it was just it was hard, hard 1322 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,320 Speaker 4: to just do it period. It was hard to just 1323 01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 4: even get there. And I was just happy to be 1324 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:08,760 Speaker 4: a part of it. And I just want to inspire 1325 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,120 Speaker 4: people to say that that say I can't work out, 1326 01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,400 Speaker 4: I don't have time. I'm on the road, i'm a 1327 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:19,000 Speaker 4: new father, I'm in the studio, I'm doing a million things, 1328 01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,080 Speaker 4: and I'm able to go to the gym and transform 1329 01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,560 Speaker 4: my body, eat right, do all these things. 1330 01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,760 Speaker 3: So you can do it too. 1331 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:27,320 Speaker 1: Blanks Man, you can do. 1332 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:31,240 Speaker 5: You can training hit training with It's your music playlist, 1333 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:36,360 Speaker 5: all the crunk music going body by John. 1334 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,880 Speaker 3: I love it, Okay, help me out with it. Solon 1335 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:44,560 Speaker 3: Man happy though, Oh no, I love it. Inspire. There 1336 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:44,919 Speaker 3: you go. 1337 01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,400 Speaker 2: Well, Little John, we appreciate you for joining us. And 1338 01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:51,480 Speaker 2: also December eighteenth, you're performing for our sister station. 1339 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,360 Speaker 3: Shingle jingle Ball. 1340 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,520 Speaker 2: So what what should the people expect for Little John 1341 01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:00,800 Speaker 2: and that show Crunk period? They want it because it 1342 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,720 Speaker 2: says Little John in Friends, It's. 1343 01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,439 Speaker 3: Krunk, Crunk and Friends. 1344 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:11,960 Speaker 4: Crunk, crunk, you know, commercial just it's Atlanta and I 1345 01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,200 Speaker 4: gotta hit them hard, you know, Jermaine talking crap like 1346 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,960 Speaker 4: but Jamaine my best family. Jermaine actually called me, was like, 1347 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:19,720 Speaker 4: who you're bringing out? 1348 01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:23,600 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna I got friends friends. 1349 01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,120 Speaker 4: So but I'm just gonna bring the crunk. That's what 1350 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:27,840 Speaker 4: That's what they want. That's what I'm gona give them. 1351 01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,320 Speaker 4: That's what they ain't seen in the whild So that's 1352 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,160 Speaker 4: what I'm giving them. I ain't trying to do nothing 1353 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,400 Speaker 4: crazy crunk excited. 1354 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:36,800 Speaker 5: Could that error ever come back? Like the way metro 1355 01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,320 Speaker 5: Booman just did futuristic someer? Could that crunk era ever 1356 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:39,720 Speaker 5: come back? 1357 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 3: If it did, it'll I don't know if people can 1358 01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:42,080 Speaker 3: handle it. 1359 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,920 Speaker 1: I think we need like grown people who don't get 1360 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:45,480 Speaker 1: the release. 1361 01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:46,479 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 1362 01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:48,440 Speaker 1: Maybe you have something you put everybody. Everybody put their 1363 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:49,520 Speaker 1: phones up, but. 1364 01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:50,360 Speaker 2: You don't heal the same way. 1365 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,919 Speaker 3: You can't bebody. 1366 01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,640 Speaker 7: And I don't know how to sprinkle down to the yns, 1367 01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:00,640 Speaker 7: Like how would they don't need sprinkle. I don't think 1368 01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,000 Speaker 7: that krunk could be recreated, but I'm glad that we 1369 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:04,640 Speaker 7: do have these crunk classics. 1370 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:05,960 Speaker 6: That will never die. 1371 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:07,880 Speaker 3: So I don't think it could come back. 1372 01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,120 Speaker 4: Maybe I do something next year, Maybe I do, Like 1373 01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:11,760 Speaker 4: why not you know Metro did? 1374 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,640 Speaker 3: Maybe why not? I was talking about it. But it's 1375 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,320 Speaker 3: got to be the right Everything with me is the 1376 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:16,760 Speaker 3: right time. 1377 01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,280 Speaker 4: You know, when the universe tell me it's time for it, 1378 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:21,360 Speaker 4: that's when it happens. 1379 01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,840 Speaker 2: All right, Well ninety six point one, get your tickets. 1380 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,480 Speaker 2: He will be performing at the Atlanti's Jingle Ball. Can't 1381 01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,680 Speaker 2: wait to see you guys. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning. 1382 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 3: Every day. I waiting up the Breakfast Club. Finish, y'all 1383 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:34,760 Speaker 3: done