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Speaker 1: Sunday Night, you got Chiefs and Buccaneers and it might
Speaker 1: have the easiest pregame story to write for the entire season.
Speaker 1: The passing of the torch for Tom Brady to Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes seems obvious. Brady's the goat and Mahome Holmes feels
Speaker 1: like he's the heir apparent, which is kind of interesting
Speaker 1: because they're very, very different. Brady your classic drop back quarterback.
Speaker 1: Mahomes can drop back, but he can do everything else.
Speaker 1: And Brady beat Mahomes back in the twenty eighteen AFC
Speaker 1: Title game, went on to win the Super Bowl with
Speaker 1: the Patriots that year, Mahomes getting his first ring with
Speaker 1: the Chiefs the following season. And now it's a critical game,
Speaker 1: and it's critical for both because the Steelers are undefeated.
Speaker 1: You want to get that number one seed overall. And
Speaker 1: here's Tampa with some question marks, certainly coming off the
Speaker 1: home loss against the Rams. Got a long way to go,
Speaker 1: but at least there's a chance this could be a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl preview. The NFL would love that. Mahomes and Brady, well,
Speaker 1: they'll be ending up as two of the greatest quarterbacks
Speaker 1: to ever play the game. That would be an easy
Speaker 1: storyline to sell, not only for the Super Bowl, but
Speaker 1: especially this Sunday night. Here's Michael Irvin, the NFL Network analyst,
Speaker 1: on Patrick Mahomes act stood Patrick to beat Steph Curry
Speaker 1: of the NFL. Somebody is that's going to take this
Speaker 1: thing to the next level. Steph Curry took three points,
Speaker 1: shooting to the next level in a sin. Pat Mahomes
Speaker 1: is doing some of that in the world of the NFL,
Speaker 1: and I think It's an interesting comparison there by Michael
Speaker 1: Irvan that was on ninety five point seven, the game
Speaker 1: in San Francisco, because Mahomes is doing it differently, just
Speaker 1: like Steph Curry did it differently. There were players who
Speaker 1: shot the three pointer. They didn't have the same flare
Speaker 1: that Steph Curry did. Mahomes has flair everything he does.
Speaker 1: It feels like there's flair when you watch him play.
Speaker 1: There's total confidence in what he's going to do or
Speaker 1: how he's going to do it, or he'll somehow find
Speaker 1: a way to do it. And not that we have
Speaker 1: that same confidence in Steph Curry. But there was this
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I have to tune in to watch
Speaker 1: because I haven't seen this before. We haven't seen Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes before, we haven't seen Steph Curry before. These are
Speaker 1: the anomalies. Now, that doesn't mean that they're not going
Speaker 1: to spawn a lot of impersonators, because we've seen that
Speaker 1: with Steph Curry, and I still maintain that Steph Curry's
Speaker 1: impact on the game is far greater than Michael Jordan's.
Speaker 1: From this standpoint, everybody you know says, oh, be like Mike.
Speaker 1: We can't be like Mike. But there's there's something inside
Speaker 1: all of us that says we could do what Steph
Speaker 1: Curry does. You know, he doesn't jump out of the gym.
Speaker 1: He's not overly big quick. He just has a great
Speaker 1: handle and an unbelievable ability to find his shot. Now
Speaker 1: he does other things there. I always go back and remember,
Speaker 1: if you look at his draft profile, who's he going
Speaker 1: to guard? And I always wonder do they ever say
Speaker 1: who's going to guard him? Because he goes back to
Speaker 1: you talk yourself out of somebody, because you go out
Speaker 1: of the negative. I don't think he can guard anybody. Now,
Speaker 1: granted Steph Curry doesn't guard very well, but does he
Speaker 1: make up for it at the other end. And the
Speaker 1: answer is yes, if you have twenty he's got thirty
Speaker 1: four that would be advantaged Steph Curry. It's the same
Speaker 1: with Steve Nash. If you've ever been around Steve Nash
Speaker 1: in person, you immediately go there, how does he do it?
Speaker 1: There's no way it's possible for somebody that size to
Speaker 1: do what he does on the basketball floor. But he
Speaker 1: couldn't guard anybody when he's coming out of Santa Clair. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but who's he going to guard. Okay, probably nobody who's
Speaker 1: guarding him, and odds are at the end of the game,
Speaker 1: his numbers are better than your numbers. With Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can have somebody can come
Speaker 1: in and be like that, but you're going to find people,
Speaker 1: you know, Brett Farve was Patrick Mahomes before Patrick Mahomes. Now,
Speaker 1: the problem was he made more mistakes. He forced things
Speaker 1: a little bit more. And when I watched Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: when he was in college at Texas Tech, I thought
Speaker 1: he was trying to be Brett Farve. I thought that
Speaker 1: he was trying for degree of difficulty. It felt like
Speaker 1: he was in the backyard, and in the backyard, would
Speaker 1: you know, the play of the pattern breaks down and
Speaker 1: then you start pointing guys. That's what I felt like
Speaker 1: when I was watching Patrick Mahomes. But you know, Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers even said this recently. Brett Farve used to do
Speaker 1: those no look passes. Mahomes to me, is a better
Speaker 1: version of Brett Farve. He's a smarter, under control, less
Speaker 1: risk less downside with Bret Farve and Farv's obviously one
Speaker 1: of the greats of all time, but Farv was doing
Speaker 1: a lot of these things that Patrick Mahomes is doing. Now,
Speaker 1: it's just Mahomes is doing it better. There have been players.
Speaker 1: Ray Allen was a great three point shooter. Steph Curry
Speaker 1: took it and then took it to another level. Reggie
Speaker 1: Miller great three point shooter. Steph Curry took it and
Speaker 1: took it to the next level. Yeah, Paul Mahomes is
Speaker 1: on pace for forty one touchdowns and three basically no downside. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we take it for granted. You know, in that regard,
Speaker 1: he's more like Michael Jordan that it took like it's amazing,
Speaker 1: and it took him what three years, three years to
Speaker 1: be taken for granted, Like it's remarkable. Jordan, we took
Speaker 1: for granted, but it took a decade. I think Mike
Speaker 1: might have been thirty when we started to go Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Mike had another great year. Yeah, Bowls are probably gonna
Speaker 1: win it. Let's give the MVP to Barkley Karl Malone.
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is twenty five and we're taking him for granted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mclovin, You're right, it's unbelievable. We were watching the
Speaker 1: other day, Who's up on the screen here and he
Speaker 1: does a play that no other quarterbacks ever made. It.
Speaker 1: We don't even comment anymore. Yeah, there's just this feeling
Speaker 1: of him, and then there's everybody else. And I still
Speaker 1: maintain Aaron Rodgers, who was going to join us a
Speaker 1: little bit. When he makes when he's great, I think
Speaker 1: that he makes it easier than anybody I've ever seen,
Speaker 1: and that includes Mahomes, any quarterback who's ever played the position.
Speaker 1: I felt like Aaron Rodgers when he did it in
Speaker 1: his way at a high level, made it look easier
Speaker 1: than anybody I've ever seen. Yeah. See, I would love
Speaker 1: to be taken for granted, though, to the tune of
Speaker 1: five hundred million dollars, Like you know what, nobody respects me.
Speaker 1: Nobody respects me. Well, the chiefs respect you, but you
Speaker 1: know it's the critics around the you know, the the
Speaker 1: analysts of the writers. I wish I got a little
Speaker 1: more love on sports talk radio. AnyWho. Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1: In about three years, four years from now, Mahomes will
Speaker 1: be twenty nine years old and he'll probably be what
Speaker 1: andrew about the tenth highest paid quarterback in the league.
Speaker 1: Probably he didn't get the most money, he said, he
Speaker 1: took ten percent less or something. Well, he wanted Chris
Speaker 1: Jones to get paid. But Patrick Mahomes is going to
Speaker 1: be a bargain for the Kansas City Chiefs. In five
Speaker 1: years from now, when we look back on that contract,
Speaker 1: assuming Mahomes is healthy, we're gonna say the Kansas City
Speaker 1: Chiefs got a bargain. And the Chiefs knew they got
Speaker 1: a bargain. No, they got a bargain. But when you win,
Speaker 1: that's when you get the indorsements. And Patrick Mahomes, as
Speaker 1: long as he keeps winning, he's gonna have State Farm
Speaker 1: the next five years, he'll have a ketchup commercial as well.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's going to get these indorsements. But it helps.
Speaker 1: Jordan understood this. When you win, then it's different. I
Speaker 1: can be unbelievable, I can be the highlight reel, but
Speaker 1: then everybody else goes and plays in the playoffs. The
Speaker 1: playoffs is where everybody watches, where legacies are formed. I
Speaker 1: mean Lebron, James Lebron can be the best player in
Speaker 1: the game, but until he started winning, then it's different.
Speaker 1: And I think that's you know, with Patrick Mahomes. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of talented quarterbacks, but you have to win. Yeah,
Speaker 1: mclov Isn't it more interesting for sports talk radio to
Speaker 1: talk about the guys who are good but struggling a
Speaker 1: little bit, like I hate to say Lamar Jackson and
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz And when Baker Mayfield was struggling, we talked
Speaker 1: about him all the time. Now we don't. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: easier because, Okay, what can you say about Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: other than what I've already said, And Michael Irvin said, Okay,
Speaker 1: he's like Steph Curry. Okay, is somebody going to go, oh,
Speaker 1: he's not that good? No? Are we taking him for granted?
Speaker 1: I think so because it feels like we wanted to
Speaker 1: get everybody else in the MVP conversation. You know, we're
Speaker 1: gonna ring in, We're gonna stretch Ben Roethlisberger into this conversation.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is still in there, Russell Wilson is still
Speaker 1: in there. We're trying, We're trying to get somebody else
Speaker 1: in there, and it just feels like, when it's all
Speaker 1: said and done, unless the Steelers go undefeated, that Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes is probably going to be your MVP. Yeah. Poll
Speaker 1: By the way, Lebron James he's the eighth highest paid
Speaker 1: player in the NBA. There's seven guys who make more
Speaker 1: than him first season. What is his contract situation? I
Speaker 1: know that we've been talking about these guys getting a
Speaker 1: max deal and then the Greek freak. What he's going
Speaker 1: to get? Lebron has forty one million coming to him
Speaker 1: this year, Then he has a free agent, he has
Speaker 1: he has a player option. Man, in two years, guys
Speaker 1: arena making a bunch of guys are gonna be making
Speaker 1: forty seven million. But I won't. Yeah, I know, but
Speaker 1: I wonder what Lebron would get. You know, if he
Speaker 1: resigns with the Lakers, how long would he sign for?
Speaker 1: Can he do a series of one year deals? Does
Speaker 1: he go I want fifty each year? Man? Yeah, mcclen.
Speaker 1: They should give him an extra fifty for the job
Speaker 1: he did, his GM, the seven of us, every headlights
Speaker 1: has man, the Lakers destroyed the offseason. Just wanted he
Speaker 1: should be has to be paid separately, as you know.
Speaker 1: Assistant GM to Rob Polinka. I had a couple of
Speaker 1: phone calls here al in Dallas, Al. What's on your
Speaker 1: mind today? Hey, guys, first time, long time, five ten,
Speaker 1: one seventy all right, So I got some Thanksgiving sports names.
Speaker 1: This is the NFL Defensive Line Edition. Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start with JJ wat was that? Todd? And Dominican I'm
Speaker 1: so full hammering Jordan Feathers Cox and finally you Gravyan Clowney. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll give you the Gravyan clowney there Al Fritzie. What
Speaker 1: do you think? Domican? I'm so full of his name
Speaker 1: and Dominican I'm sue fully if I would have said that,
Speaker 1: I would have been crushed. Oh look, sense of right.
Speaker 1: We only know me like two decades. I'm not sensitive.
Speaker 1: Well why wouldn't I be sensitive about that? But why
Speaker 1: do you continue to do it if you know their
Speaker 1: names aren't good? I just it's just part of a tradition,
Speaker 1: or we've been doing this a long time, and even
Speaker 1: it's you know what if we get nothing else out
Speaker 1: of it and everyone thinks it's horrible at what I do.
Speaker 1: The fact that other you know, the viewers and listeners
Speaker 1: are into it or want to make an effort to
Speaker 1: come up with their own names, that to me is
Speaker 1: enough to make it worthwhile that they want to play along.
Speaker 1: So that's cool, even if they crush me, and they
Speaker 1: make me look like my names were not good or created. Yes,
Speaker 1: I really feel that's like saying if I had a
Speaker 1: car accent the highway and all the people driving by
Speaker 1: were entertained by it as they rode by, it was
Speaker 1: worth the car crash. I honestly feel that way. I'm
Speaker 1: glad that everyone wants to know tweet us so it is,
Speaker 1: and you've been giving of yourself to put up crappy
Speaker 1: names just so the audience feels entertained. We're all thankful
Speaker 1: that it's over, though. Yes, let's keep a positive to do. Yes,
Speaker 1: speaking of the audience, we were just sent in Dallas
Speaker 1: Mavericks forward, Luca drumstick Luca. You know the bar is
Speaker 1: really low. I mean it is don Oven, Mitchell Oven,
Speaker 1: don Oven. That's definitely yes. KAUWHI did you eat all
Speaker 1: the turkey? Layer? Dan Autumn Bio. I'm just gonna take
Speaker 1: my ball and go home. At this point, you're home
Speaker 1: to another section of the house. This has just been
Speaker 1: a pretty humiliating last half of How do you have sports?
Speaker 1: Emmy's behind you? I don't. I've paid a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Was that Sports Center stuff? They are sports and it's
Speaker 1: um two. What do we got two thousand and two
Speaker 1: thousand and three and two thousand and four. You think
Speaker 1: that's very nice time if you if you want to
Speaker 1: spend enough money and you know you schmoozing enough people, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can have one, two or whatever. Nathan in Ohio,
Speaker 1: Hi Nathan, what's on your mind today? Hey Dann, thanks
Speaker 1: for having me five. One I've got I've got one.
Speaker 1: I've got one Thanksgiving name. Of course, it's my favorite
Speaker 1: player marriage to my favorite Thanksgiving dish, aj green bean casserole. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's all I got. Well, thank you, Nathan. Yeah, see
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, and see what you did? Ton screeching halt. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers will save us. Yes, yes, all
Speaker 1: the callers have an advantage because they're not stuck between
Speaker 1: a window of eighty seven and ninety three like Kevin Stefanski.
Speaker 1: Would not be a possibility for Todd. I'm yeah, Todd
Speaker 1: would have no idea who the Browns head coaches stuffing
Speaker 1: yank You guys want to take a break? Sure, sound
Speaker 1: like a good idea. We'll talk to Aaron Rodgers. He'll
Speaker 1: join us. Coming up and more phone calls. Sure. Won.
Speaker 1: By the way, the trager, grill is fired up. We
Speaker 1: have a tuna tacos and shrimp tacos. Yes, point yes.
Speaker 1: The chef, the it guy, said, I want something that's
Speaker 1: the opposite of what the expectations are for Thanksgiving dinner.
Speaker 1: So he went shrimp TACCOs, all right? Coming up on
Speaker 1: seventeen after the hour, Aaron Rodgers next year on The
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Speaker 1: Alabama's team Doctor. This morning, we receive notification that coach
Speaker 1: Saban tested positive for COVID nineteen. He has very mild symptoms,
Speaker 1: so this test will not be categorized as a potential
Speaker 1: false positive. It goes back to a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: ago where it feels like it was a false positive,
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Speaker 1: sudden he tested negative. But this time around. The Alabama
Speaker 1: team doctor said that they received notification the coach Sabans
Speaker 1: tested positive for COVID nineteen and right now they're listed
Speaker 1: as mild symptoms. Skip in Texas joins us, Hi, skip,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind? But hey, so mcglovedan's feeling pretty
Speaker 1: good about itself today. And I wanted to take him
Speaker 1: down a peg just because the fans end in a
Speaker 1: few good Turkey references or whatever you call these holiday names. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make him better than Fritz, and so I
Speaker 1: wanted to complain about his his Ario Speedwagon comment on Monday.
Speaker 1: Obviously he knows nothing about the band. They started in
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six as a hard rock band. They played
Speaker 1: fourteen years on tour as a hard rock band. Their
Speaker 1: best song ever is Golden Country from nineteen seventy two.
Speaker 1: If you listen to it with its four minute guitar solo,
Speaker 1: you will understand how good they were as a rock band.
Speaker 1: In seventy nine, Epic Labels decided they were going to
Speaker 1: drop them unless they went more mainstream. They wrote high Incidelity,
Speaker 1: thus the reputation after nineteen eighty all right, well, thank you.
Speaker 1: Skip there mclovin. Would you care to counter Skip in
Speaker 1: Texas defending the band Rio speed No, I mean that,
Speaker 1: I mean he really loves so bad you can't like
Speaker 1: it's not even fight. So I totally respect that we
Speaker 1: all have different tastes of music. The State Standard Lee, Yeah,
Speaker 1: or it was Speedwagon twenty five after the hour, Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers coming up, Kevin Cronin here he is, Is this
Speaker 1: the song that Skip was talking about a minute? Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't want Golden Control? No, no, we're good. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm good right now? Are you sure? I like Orio
Speaker 1: Speedwagon the album two. I went to see Ario Speedwagon.
Speaker 1: They had just come out with an album You can't
Speaker 1: tune a piano, but you can tune a fish. Yes,
Speaker 1: McClelland that rocks a lot harder than the Ario Speedwagon songs.
Speaker 1: I know, I gotta be honest. I'm impressed. But did
Speaker 1: you see Ozark when they had Orio Speedwagon on Ozark? Yeah?
Speaker 1: They were great. It was a great song, they sounded great,
Speaker 1: they had a great run. Yeah, I'm fine with them.
Speaker 1: Mcclevan's the one who made fun of Orio Speedwagon. This
Speaker 1: is not my favorite kind of music, but I understand it.
Speaker 1: There's a place for it. Yeah, there is. Yeah with
Speaker 1: sticks in Chicago. Well, no, not Chicago, early Chicago. No,
Speaker 1: Chicago was unbelievable. They took at Peter Sataras. Yeah, No,
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Speaker 1: Rodgers on and that State Farm guy Jake, and it
Speaker 1: seems like I don't know if he's natural. Let me
Speaker 1: put it that way. It seems like he might be
Speaker 1: on drugs. He might be on pegs. Yes, you mean
Speaker 1: the spot where Rogers and Mahomes are there and he's
Speaker 1: in the short sleeve shirt and he yoked up. Yes,
Speaker 1: all right? I mean do you guys sense that? And
Speaker 1: like Jake is, I think Jake wants to be the
Speaker 1: star of State Farm. I think he's like you know,
Speaker 1: Holmes and Rogers, you know, But I'm Jake from State
Speaker 1: Farm and it just feels like there, you know, he's
Speaker 1: wearing a pretty tight shirt. There he's Aaron Rodgers, the
Speaker 1: Packers quarterback. And let me start with that. Let me
Speaker 1: start with the obvious question. Is Jake from State Farm
Speaker 1: all natural? I know that we we didn't get drug
Speaker 1: tested during that shoot. I think it's a combination of
Speaker 1: a few things that you might have seen with another
Speaker 1: guy who was worn red in the past, Tiger Woods.
Speaker 1: You know, when Tiger was in full workout mode, he
Speaker 1: may have been an XL and was wearing a large
Speaker 1: I think Jake probably maybe a large guy a T
Speaker 1: shirt size wearing a medium to medium small. It's medium, yes, medium, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you never do you wouldn't stoop as low as
Speaker 1: something like that. No, I don't think so. I think
Speaker 1: you know to to correlate. I always enjoy like primetime
Speaker 1: games back in the day, watching our old fullback John Coon,
Speaker 1: and he had a routine with the with one of
Speaker 1: those uh, you know, elastic bands that he would do
Speaker 1: a lot of biceps before like a real nationally televised game,
Speaker 1: you know, right before the game, to make sure that
Speaker 1: his guns as big as possible by the time he
Speaker 1: went on the field. But he did a party pump
Speaker 1: before the game. Oh yeah, a lot of guys do it, though,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to just single out John. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of guys in locker room that make sure it's
Speaker 1: because even it's a primetime game, you know, their arms
Speaker 1: are looking as as good as possible by the time
Speaker 1: I go out there. Are you more concerned with grooming
Speaker 1: on a prime time game than you would be a
Speaker 1: Sunday at one o'clock. Probably? Yeah, I mean I used
Speaker 1: to be probably a little more concerned. I've let my
Speaker 1: place her go over the years. I'm not really cared
Speaker 1: if I'm rocking a mustache or a beard, and if
Speaker 1: the neck is shaved. Now I can't have the same
Speaker 1: type of neck beard as a guy, you know, like
Speaker 1: you Andrew Luck. You know, it's just we'll go down
Speaker 1: in history as as legendary. But you might maybe take
Speaker 1: a second look at the nose hairs if it's going
Speaker 1: to be a primetime game compared to maybe at twelve
Speaker 1: o'clock at Lambeau. Well, we talked about that before, where
Speaker 1: they'd have that stupid camera angle where they'd be right
Speaker 1: up under like how close is that camera? Right up
Speaker 1: underneath you during the anthem. Yeah, I wouldn't ever sure
Speaker 1: what angle they were going for with that because behind
Speaker 1: us is just the press box. So I was wondering
Speaker 1: why you would have to, you know, insist on going
Speaker 1: at that angle. But it is what it is that's
Speaker 1: come to league that we've we've grown up in. It's
Speaker 1: more access, the better for the fans. And you also
Speaker 1: have to mouth the words of the anthem if the
Speaker 1: camera's on you, don't you. I've seen guys do that before.
Speaker 1: I never I never really did that. Um, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's more of a you know, when the camera
Speaker 1: kind of gets in position, you got to make sure
Speaker 1: you have the face you want showing you. You can't
Speaker 1: look you know, weird or anything. You have to make
Speaker 1: sure that you know your game faces is ready. Once
Speaker 1: that camera comes to you, that red light on you
Speaker 1: scip he's Aaron Rodgers joining us on the program. Did
Speaker 1: you watch the Monday night game? I did not. I
Speaker 1: did not. Is that normal that unless it's an opponent
Speaker 1: future opponent that's not interested? No, I mean, I miss
Speaker 1: you said. It just depends on my schedule and and
Speaker 1: how I'm feeling. We had a longer, a longer travel
Speaker 1: to get back back, you know, playing the afternoon game
Speaker 1: against Indy. Got back about ten fifteen or so Sunday,
Speaker 1: so I try and get to bed little earlier on
Speaker 1: Monday and just kind of relaxed during the day, so
Speaker 1: I didn't get seven watched it. I never knew this,
Speaker 1: and maybe you can help me separate fact from fiction.
Speaker 1: According to league sources, Packers Raiders were very close on
Speaker 1: the deal that would have sent you to Oakland and
Speaker 1: Randy Moss to Green Bay instead of Moss traded to
Speaker 1: New England during two thousand and seven and you stayed,
Speaker 1: of course, in Green Bay. Is that true. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if it's true or not. I do know that
Speaker 1: during that time, I remember where I was at. I
Speaker 1: was on the twenty six in Portland, Oregon, with a
Speaker 1: friend of mine and a couple of friends of mine,
Speaker 1: long time friends from when I was a kid and
Speaker 1: lived up in Oregon, and got a call from Ted Thompson,
Speaker 1: and Ted wanted to reassure me that nothing was was
Speaker 1: going on and I wasn't going anywhere. So there were
Speaker 1: definitely some murmurs at the time. But doesn't that call
Speaker 1: make you nervous that there was something going on for
Speaker 1: him to call you to say, don't worry about hearing
Speaker 1: about anything. I'm not necessarily dan, just because you know
Speaker 1: it was I believe it was before It wasn't six
Speaker 1: or before oh seven. It says that Moss was traded
Speaker 1: to the Patriots during the seven NFL Draft, and then
Speaker 1: that this was the spring of two thousand and seven
Speaker 1: or at the end of two thousand and six, two
Speaker 1: thousand and seven, So I was still a backup, so
Speaker 1: you know, okay, if I was straighted, um, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't at that time. You know, if I wouldn't
Speaker 1: have been the worst thing, because I was thinking wrestling
Speaker 1: to play a few more years, and if I get traded,
Speaker 1: that means I might be the guy right away. So
Speaker 1: it wasn't like the you know, when his number came up,
Speaker 1: wasn't oh man, what is is me? It was like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: I guess we'll get to the bottom of this right now.
Speaker 1: Because you were probably twenty four at the time, A
Speaker 1: right just just turned twenty three, actually okay, and um,
Speaker 1: you know you start to look at you know, when
Speaker 1: when and how much you read or listen to anything
Speaker 1: like honestly, Like if ESPN comes on, you care if
Speaker 1: they're gonna go let's look at the Colts and the Packers,
Speaker 1: or you turn the channel. I don't really watch that channel. Um,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's never on at the house unless
Speaker 1: unless I'm watching my football and the sound is the
Speaker 1: sound is off, so I'm not I'm just not watching,
Speaker 1: not watching. Now, I will say this, maybe if Kenny
Speaker 1: Maine is on and Kenny and I have talked and
Speaker 1: he's gonna say something funny on sports er, I might
Speaker 1: switch over if he's if he's doing the late sports
Speaker 1: enter Um so I will admit that. But because I
Speaker 1: love Kenny. But um really, unless unless Tom here at
Speaker 1: the pass gives me a heads up, I don't see
Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff, you know, or a friend
Speaker 1: of mine might say, hey, do you see what you
Speaker 1: know was written? No? No, what should look at it?
Speaker 1: You know? They might they might send it over. But
Speaker 1: would you rather read or hear something that was negative
Speaker 1: or something positive, like learn something that might be considered negative,
Speaker 1: or have somebody just say something, you know, verbal bouquets
Speaker 1: about you. Oh, I mean, I don't think anybody needs
Speaker 1: to at this point. I don't need to to pump
Speaker 1: myself up with some puff pieces. Um and you know,
Speaker 1: spend time reading and stuff like that. Um And I
Speaker 1: don't you know, care a whole lot about anything on
Speaker 1: the other side of it, really, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: there's a job to do for for those people I've
Speaker 1: railed at times about her. I think that the you know,
Speaker 1: the shock journalism with the you know, the clickbait headlines
Speaker 1: kind of rules the especially the online media. But do
Speaker 1: you care about legacy? Yeah, of course. Do you care
Speaker 1: where you're ranked all time or how people view you
Speaker 1: as you know, on the all time list of quarterbacks?
Speaker 1: Does that interest you? Not? Really not at this point now,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think the airs are so different.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people maybe think about those
Speaker 1: things one more. With Lebron win another championship and trying
Speaker 1: to compare him to Michael and Michael the Wilt and
Speaker 1: Kareem and Russell and you know, all the great players
Speaker 1: of all time, it's just tough to to compare generations.
Speaker 1: So I don't, you know, I don't get into that
Speaker 1: a whole lot. My legacy to me is more about
Speaker 1: like what kind of player I was, what kind of teammate.
Speaker 1: It was, you know, how I was the organization in
Speaker 1: the community that sus more important. And also when you
Speaker 1: assess quarterbacks now everybody's gonna throw for sixty seventy thousand,
Speaker 1: it feels like where is Joe Montana or John Elway,
Speaker 1: you know? Eight? I mean, it was just different back then.
Speaker 1: If you threw thirty touchdowns, you had a hell of
Speaker 1: it season. Now if you don't throw thirty, it's almost
Speaker 1: like your pedestrian here. How do you think the whole
Speaker 1: of Fame voters will be able to sort this out
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks? Yeah, I think it'll be interesting to see
Speaker 1: how they do it, because I felt like that for
Speaker 1: the most part, it's been fairly standard with what gets
Speaker 1: guy in now with the longevity and guys you know,
Speaker 1: and the numbers being bigger than what they were in
Speaker 1: the eighties and nineties and two thousands, and when I
Speaker 1: really got into football, especially in the eighties and nineties,
Speaker 1: and the defenses and the offenses are different. In the
Speaker 1: game was different than the rules are slightly different. I
Speaker 1: still think that there should be a standard based on
Speaker 1: being the best of your position. You know, I'm staying
Speaker 1: top three to maybe top five for an extended amount
Speaker 1: of years. You know, it's it's a consistency of being
Speaker 1: one of those top really top three guys. I think
Speaker 1: at the position for multiple years in a row, for
Speaker 1: large stretches of your career. I think that should be
Speaker 1: kind of the standard. I think there's places for, you know,
Speaker 1: guys who've had amazing longevity and put up amazing numbers.
Speaker 1: But I still think it's the majority of the guys
Speaker 1: should be you know, you dominate your position, you know,
Speaker 1: one of the three to five best guys for you know,
Speaker 1: a decade or for an extended period of time. That
Speaker 1: should kind of get you in. I don't know what
Speaker 1: is protocol, but you spent probably five minutes with Philip
Speaker 1: Rivers on Sunday, like you actually had a conversation with him.
Speaker 1: What what are you supposed to do post game? You know?
Speaker 1: What is protocol with two quarterbacks after a game? I
Speaker 1: think it just depends. It depends on how well you
Speaker 1: know the guy or how you feel about him, or
Speaker 1: how you feel about seeing anybody after the game. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, we lost obviously a difficult one there, and
Speaker 1: overtime coming back, time to getting the ball back and
Speaker 1: turn over and losing. I just, I mean, I really
Speaker 1: like I've known him for a while here and there
Speaker 1: and known him from Afar, you know, Watchington play and
Speaker 1: have a ton of respect for him, and I just,
Speaker 1: you know, if the conversation's easy, stick around and that's
Speaker 1: it was. It was good to you know, just pay
Speaker 1: my respects. And we can't ask him about his kids
Speaker 1: because then you'll be there for a half hour. He's
Speaker 1: got like nine or ten of them. Well, it's play
Speaker 1: the guys, I said, I said, hey, you guys working
Speaker 1: on number nine yet he said you already hadn't Where
Speaker 1: have you been? Come on? Yeah? Behind? I thought that
Speaker 1: thought eight was the last one, and maybe he got uh.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is a smart guy. He's using FedEx and
Speaker 1: he's getting his offensive lineman their holiday gifts early this
Speaker 1: year new Tregger grills. I'm in a trigger guy for
Speaker 1: years and we love the Tregger grill. We I think
Speaker 1: I have six trigger grills out in our barbecuing area.
Speaker 1: But h FedEx dot com slash Holiday guide, so your
Speaker 1: lineman know what you're getting him. Yeah, you know, the
Speaker 1: last couple of years, at times there's been some gifts
Speaker 1: that maybe didn't arrive on Christmas. Uh, maybe not even
Speaker 1: until time for a couple of guys. Um, it actually
Speaker 1: worked out great to partner with FedEx, so I could,
Speaker 1: you know, shop for those things and then ship them
Speaker 1: and get them early. You know, it's before or even
Speaker 1: Thanksgivings for me is easily a record. Um, but I'm
Speaker 1: excited to you know, take care of those guys and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, FedEx has been a great partner and it's
Speaker 1: fun to uh want to get those guys the gifts
Speaker 1: early so they can use them for Thanksgiving. The gift
Speaker 1: better when you're better, like when you're like when you
Speaker 1: were MVP one of one of those MVP seasons, the
Speaker 1: gifts better that year. I don't, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think so. Actually, I think it's only been the last
Speaker 1: seven or eight years where the gifts have been really
Speaker 1: really good. Um, so how did they get you? Every
Speaker 1: now and then? They might give me a ball of scotch? Um, wait,
Speaker 1: is that what you were drinking on Draft night? Scotch
Speaker 1: or tequila? I would drinking tequila, mixed it up a
Speaker 1: little bit. I like I like Scotch, bourbon and some
Speaker 1: sipping tequila. The front of mine got me room so
Speaker 1: it was tequila that night. Did the glass get Did
Speaker 1: you put more in it when the packers were on
Speaker 1: the clock or after the packers were off the clock?
Speaker 1: I would say after probably yeah, but I didn't to
Speaker 1: my credits, I didn't refillum. I started with a strong board,
Speaker 1: so I could just imagine you there that you're you know,
Speaker 1: you got tequila there and the packers and they're gonna
Speaker 1: take a wide receiver here of course we are, and
Speaker 1: the packers take Jordan Jordan Love. Did you know they
Speaker 1: were taking him prior to the pick? Oh? No, I
Speaker 1: found out just like we did about five seconds before
Speaker 1: the We made a T shirt for you the last
Speaker 1: call with a tumbler, and uh we sent it over
Speaker 1: to the facilities. I don't know if you get the
Speaker 1: T shirt that we make that we send over to
Speaker 1: the facility. There they hold them in a secret vault.
Speaker 1: So too buying the key and I don't know if
Speaker 1: they're worth that. Once again, well, FedEx dot Com slash
Speaker 1: Holiday Guide and do what Aaron Rodgers did. He's doing
Speaker 1: it early with FedEx delivering his offensive Lineman Holiday gives
Speaker 1: the new Tregger grills great to see again. I hope
Speaker 1: you're well. Enjoy listening to you with McAfee and thanks
Speaker 1: again for joining us. Thanks Buddy, good to see him.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. You can send your gifts via FedEx dot
Speaker 1: com slash Holiday Guide. Just like Aaron Rodgers got him
Speaker 1: Tregar girls. Had I known that, I would have helped him.
Speaker 1: I would have hooked him up with a good deal
Speaker 1: with Tregger. He's got dough, but I could have helped him.
Speaker 1: Maybe we could have thrown in some wood pellet Sir,
Speaker 1: Rogers rate as they say, oh yeah for Tregar. Does
Speaker 1: Tregger have the Rodgers rate there as well? All right,
Speaker 1: last call for phone calls? What we learn? What's in store? Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. We're not back until Monday, but we'll
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Speaker 1: Let me see final results of the poll question, McLevin,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna watch this weekend? It's still The
Speaker 1: Steeler's Raven, but The Crown season four is a moving
Speaker 1: up fast. Just saw this that the great soccer player
Speaker 1: Diego Maradona has passed away. He had a heart attack.
Speaker 1: I think he underwent brain surgery not too long ago
Speaker 1: and just sixty years of age. But that was a
Speaker 1: life lived for sixty years and had not been in
Speaker 1: good health on and off probably the last fifteen years.
Speaker 1: I saw the documentary on him, and you know, he
Speaker 1: was a fun Aminon. It wasn't a big window, but
Speaker 1: he had as as important, if not the most important
Speaker 1: goal in World Cup history. I think it was voted
Speaker 1: that when Argentina one, Yeah, Paul, Yeah, eighty six World
Speaker 1: Cup Argentina one, led by Maradonna. He had two goals
Speaker 1: against England, the hand of God goals, the one everyone is,
Speaker 1: the controversy one. But a few minutes later he did
Speaker 1: about a seventy yard run that was voted the World
Speaker 1: Cup goal, best goal everyone, World Cup history. And Seton
Speaker 1: brought this up as well, just the impact that Maradona
Speaker 1: had on younger soccer players. You know, just playing high
Speaker 1: school or you're playing grade school that you get signature names,
Speaker 1: you know, with a move that you make with certain
Speaker 1: I remember the bicycle kick with Pele that people always
Speaker 1: would talk about, Oh you did a pele, and Maradona
Speaker 1: had one of those signature moves. Yeah. It's like kids
Speaker 1: when they're starting to learn, you have to learn all
Speaker 1: of these moves, and like you learn the kroi if
Speaker 1: and you learn these things. But one of the favorite
Speaker 1: ones is a Maradonna where it's sort of the spin
Speaker 1: move where you touch the ball with both feet and
Speaker 1: it's it's really impressive when you're a kid and can
Speaker 1: do it, and every kid wants to do it. And
Speaker 1: ever did you see me maradonnat that kids, It's a
Speaker 1: big one for sure. Diego Maradona dead at the age
Speaker 1: of sixty. Let me see anything else that needs I
Speaker 1: did see the Pro Football Hall of Fame the twenty
Speaker 1: five Modern era semi finalists there. We'll talk about this
Speaker 1: a little bit more in detail next week. There's there's
Speaker 1: a couple of players that I've been big fans of.
Speaker 1: To make it. Tony Bisselli is somebody. Rodney Harrison to me,
Speaker 1: when you have at least thirty sacks and at least
Speaker 1: thirty interceptions, and the only other player in the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl era to do something like that might be all
Speaker 1: time is Ray Lewis won a couple of Super Bowls
Speaker 1: as well. I had the opportunity to work with him
Speaker 1: on Football Night in America. Peyton Manning obviously's on there.
Speaker 1: John Lynch is back on there, Clay Matthews, Richard Seymour,
Speaker 1: Fred Taylor of the Jacksonville Jaguars, Hines Ward, Zach Thomas.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Zach Thomas has enough there, but
Speaker 1: I will say when I remember interviewing Peyton Manning to say,
Speaker 1: give me the defensive player who knows what you're thinking.
Speaker 1: He said, Zach Thomas. He go, I go to Linu scrimmage.
Speaker 1: I'd call something, Zach would say, look out for the
Speaker 1: and then I'd changed the play, and then Zach would
Speaker 1: go look out for and he goes. He knew what
Speaker 1: I was thinking, and something to be said for that.
Speaker 1: As great as he was, he was NFL All Decade
Speaker 1: Team of the two thousands. Charles Woodson is going into
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame eventually. Patrick Willis always a big
Speaker 1: fan of the Niners. He Rookie of the Year, and
Speaker 1: I don't know if he played long enough, but Patrick
Speaker 1: Willis when he was playing great, was certainly played like
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. But there's twenty five modern era
Speaker 1: semi finalist on that list. This day in sports history,
Speaker 1: PAULI would have Thanksgiving Day nineteen seventy six. O. J.
Speaker 1: Simpson ran for then record two hundred and seventy three
Speaker 1: yards against the Detroit Lions. And then in two thousand
Speaker 1: and two Here's One. Pete Rose and Commissioner Bud selig
Speaker 1: Met secretly discussed Pete Rose's lifetime ban from baseball. At
Speaker 1: that meeting, Pete Rose says he was informed that it
Speaker 1: would not be a lifetime ban if he agreed with
Speaker 1: all the things that Baseball set forward. And it's a shame,
Speaker 1: Pete if he gets in, we'll be posthumously. I've felt
Speaker 1: that all along, having covered that story. When I first
Speaker 1: got to ESPN, knowing that he I bet through one
Speaker 1: of his bookies in Cincinnati lived in Indian Hills, and
Speaker 1: then I also bet with the other bookie that that
Speaker 1: book he would, you know, offload some of his bets
Speaker 1: onto and so I knew exactly what was going on.
Speaker 1: I knew a lot more about that situation, and of course,
Speaker 1: growing up as a Reds fan, it was pretty tough
Speaker 1: to be covering Pete Rose in that light. Hall of
Speaker 1: Famer manager Tommy Lessort is still hospitalized, but his condition
Speaker 1: has improved. He's ninety three years of age. He's been
Speaker 1: taking calls from former players and coaches at the house
Speaker 1: middle of Orange County. So our best at Tommy, Let's
Speaker 1: go around the room. What we learned on the program.
Speaker 1: I'll start with you, Todd. Charles Barkley says, Kyrie Irving
Speaker 1: and Kevin Durant have thinner skin than flat Stanley. Good
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