1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Now I'm Bloomberg with about the government. What are the 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: political reality The President has been increasingly frustrated. I want 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: to try to cut through the noise politically. This is devastating. 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: Sound off with Kevin, the insiders, the influencers, the insiders. 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: There is no secret that I care a lot about 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: the consumers. There are real questions about God Tech. We 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,319 Speaker 1: still have more leverage to me as rickets tariffs. I 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,120 Speaker 1: think we could do with a little less drama from 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 1: the White House. He's sound on with Kevin's related on 10 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: Bloomberg one and one oh five point seven. A m 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: h D two Boltemole, Happy super Bowl Friday, everybody, a 12 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: snowy Friday. Just a couple of days until the President 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: is set to deliver his State of the Union address. 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about what the President just said 15 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: before departing for Mara Lago for the weekend to continue 16 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: that State of the Union prep work. He says he's 17 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: going to be making a special announcement come Tuesday night 18 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: for that. Meanwhile, negotiations between the US and China continue. 19 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: Jobs Day, we're gonna get an update on the economy. 20 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: We've got an all star panel today. Senator Ben Carton, 21 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: a Democrat from Maryland. I just interviewed him. We're gonna 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: hear what he has to say about the State of 23 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: the Union, about the state of the U S. China 24 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: trade negotiations, and the state of the NFL, which has 25 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: been very much politicized in the past couple of years. 26 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: And in addition to that, we're joined by the General 27 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: Council for the Baltimore Ravens. Brendan Etheridge, a really rising 28 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: executive within the within the league. He's here with us 29 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: in studio as well. And Shanna Petty Peace Bloomberg News. 30 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: A White House reporter, Craig Gordon, d C Bureau chief, 31 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: also helping us get through what has become a very 32 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: very busy news week. What a day as the snow 33 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: was falling, the negotiations continuing between the US and China. 34 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: The President did make some news today. He spoke with UH, 35 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: tons of reporters, including our very no Margaret Talve as 36 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: we heard uh And essentially it's all gearing up for 37 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: Tuesday night. Tuesday night is the President's State of the 38 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: Union address. It was supposed to be the other week, 39 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:12,919 Speaker 1: of course, the partial government shutdown, delaying it until until 40 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: Tuesday evening. Uh, and he says he's going to make 41 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: a major announcement. Here's what he said earlier today. Take 42 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: a listen, you'll hear the State of the Union, and 43 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: then you'll see what happens right after the State of 44 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: the Union. So, Shannon Petty Peace Bloomberg News, White House Reporter, 45 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: he's really playing his cards close to vest in terms 46 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: of what exactly he's going to announce on whether or 47 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: not he's going to declare a national emergency or to 48 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: try to wait and see what car comes. Well. So 49 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: this is the second time now that he's teased some 50 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: sort of major announcement, the second time in recent weeks 51 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: or since this whole shut down debate started, that he's 52 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: teased some major announcement that we all thought was going 53 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: to be declaring a national emergency and ended up it 54 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't be. If you remember a few weeks back, there 55 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,839 Speaker 1: was this Saturday afternoon announcement he was going to make. Uh. 56 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: So we don't really know as far as whether he's 57 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: going to declare national emergency or not. You know, I've 58 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: my reporting indicates that it's something the White House feels 59 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: they have in their back pocket if they need to 60 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: if it doesn't look like they're going to get a 61 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: deal through Congress. They have this that they can pull out, 62 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: but they're still letting the sort of talks play out. Um, 63 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: And you know, really this is this ball is in 64 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: Congress's court. This is they they handle appropriation, so Congress 65 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: can pass something, the President can can choose not to 66 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: sign it, he can veto it, and Congress can override 67 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: that veto. So this really is up to Congress. And 68 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: I was I was talking with some administration officials earlier 69 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: this afternoon and and and they I think suggested that 70 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: they're under the belief that next Friday is when they're 71 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: hopeful that a major development would occur from a deal 72 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: perspective from Democrats and Republicans up on the hill. Right, well, 73 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: their timing has been awful lot because they're talking right, 74 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: they're right right. I mean, I remember before Christmas, they 75 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: thought they'd get a deal done right before Christmas. They 76 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: then it didn't happen before the Christmas New York holiday. 77 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: Then they thought as soon as everybody got back and 78 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: Plosi was sworn in as you know, became the speaker, 79 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: that they would get a deal. Then then they thought 80 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: that they would get a deal right before the government 81 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: and the employees missed their first paycheck, and then they thought, well, 82 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: right after they missed the paycheck, we'll get a deal. 83 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: So so, I mean they've been off about a lot 84 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: of things. I mean, you know that until the time 85 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: they're right. But I mean, yeah, I think so much 86 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: of it is in Congress's hands now, and I think 87 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: the White House is kind of sitting back to some 88 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: extent because they tried to get really involved and lead 89 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: these negotiations and they went nowhere. Um, you know, the 90 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: Vice President didn't really have the relations mcmilvain didn't really 91 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: have the relationships to get this through. The President didn't 92 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: do any favors. Um. So now you know, the you know, 93 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: you have members of Congress who have made deals before 94 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: and these sort of tough climates, and maybe they can 95 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: pull this one off again too. I want to talk 96 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: about the economy, but before I get to that, shin 97 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: and I'm hearing that the President is going to try 98 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: to deliver an uplifting State of the Union address. I mean, 99 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: but he's gonna They're saying it's going to be uplifting. 100 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: They're saying it's going to be trying to be unifying, 101 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: but I mean he's gonna be talking about a lot 102 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: of divisive Well, it comes at a moment, it comes 103 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: at a very yeah, as you said, divisive moment with 104 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: this the shutdown talks underway and right, so it could 105 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: be an opportunity. He could definitely use it as an 106 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: opportunity to sort of get some leverage in these negotiations 107 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: and bludge in the Democrats. But as of now, right, 108 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: but the message coming from the White House is that 109 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: it will be a very traditional State of the Union. 110 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: It will be positive, it will talk about unity, um 111 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: and I mean, for for as the presence Past day 112 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: of the Unions, well, he's one one Past Day of 113 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: the Union in one UM joint address. They have sort 114 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: of been these scripted traditional moments and those go over well. 115 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's there's no reason that I think, um, 116 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,919 Speaker 1: he shouldn't necessarily do those ones unless he wants to 117 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: use that big prime time slot and thinks that that 118 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: can help him in some if only everything. You know, 119 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: things used to be unifying, things like the super Bowl. 120 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,559 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a lot about how the the NFL 121 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: has been politicized by President Trump. Later On in the show, 122 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: I actually asked Senator Ben Cardon about that Democrat from 123 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: Maryland and also got his take on on all of 124 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: these negotiations as well. We'll play that coming up. But 125 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: we did get some economic data today, and in fact, 126 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: the Labor Department said it was closely watching the unemployment 127 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: rate and and from the thirty five day partial government shutdown, 128 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: and it truly was unable. They said, this unable to 129 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: quantify the effect on the private sector of the shutdown. 130 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: UH and the unemployment rate ticked up to a seven 131 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: month high of four percent. Larry Cudlow, speaking on Bloomberg 132 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: Television earlier today, to my colleagues, take a listen to 133 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: what the president's chief economists said about the unemployment. More 134 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: people are working and prospering, and by the way, it's 135 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: not inflationary, okay. And productivity is rising, and the policies 136 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: of lower tax rates and deregulation and energy and trade 137 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: reform are working. We are sticking with our three percent 138 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 1: economic growth rate. So that was Larry Cudlow, the President's 139 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,239 Speaker 1: chief economist, Shannon Pettie Peace Bomberg News White House reporter. 140 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: So that's I mean, they're going to talk about the 141 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: economy and the state of the Union address also on 142 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: foreign policy, and there was a major major development today 143 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: with the president's decision to withdraw from the Russia US 144 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: nuclear armsteal, and that that withdrew criticism and comes less 145 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: than a day after the McConnell amendments, and a majority 146 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: Leader Mitch McConnell, a Republican, advanced an amendment that essentially 147 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: is saying they don't like the president's foreign policy decision 148 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: to withdraw troops well right on afghan and Syria. And 149 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: and you know, the decision for the administration to withdraw 150 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: from this Nuclear I n F treaty um is something 151 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: they have signaled for a while. They said that Russia 152 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: is not in compliance with it, so why should the 153 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: US be complying. Uh, they said it's outdated because it 154 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: doesn't include China. So um, you know, it's something that 155 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: they had signaled. Not a big surprise that certainly people 156 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: who think that there's a out of value in the 157 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: U s staying in this treaty. But I think it's 158 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: important that you raise foreign policy as well as the economy, 159 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: because foreign policy is going to be a big theme 160 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: the next certainly the next year until you know, things 161 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: really ratchet into reelection mode because that's one of the 162 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: few areas where the president can do something on domestic policy. 163 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: I'm obviously we've seen they can't even pass a budget, 164 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: so it doesn't look like domestic policy wise, he's gonna 165 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: be able to get much done. So see him turning 166 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: more and more to foreign policy. Let me follow up 167 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: on the issue and help help our our audience understand 168 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: this because a lot of Democrats, including Senator Card and 169 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: a senior member of the Foreign Relations Committee, will hear 170 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:38,239 Speaker 1: from him coming up oppose the president's decision to withdraw 171 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: from the I n F Treaty, the nuclear arms treaty 172 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: with Russia. Now the White House is saying Russia isn't 173 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: in compliance. So why are Democrats opposed to kind of 174 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 1: sticking into Russia in this particular case. Um, well, I mean, 175 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: I think there's this general sense that that the US 176 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: is better to stay engaged and to you know, that 177 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: these these treaties that buying us together. It's a better 178 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,079 Speaker 1: way to stay engaged and unified, whether it's on um, 179 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: you know, the w t O or NATO or uh, 180 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 1: you know, the Paris climate of courd you know the 181 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: um you know the you know trade different trade packs 182 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: that you know the world is better united in these 183 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: treaties and with these fronts. Right then with none at all, 184 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: and to sort of go off and we can continue 185 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: to press Russia to comply, but now we're sort of 186 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: flying without any sort of guidelines at all. All right, 187 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: Channa Pete, stay with us. After the break, we're gonna 188 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: get more into news of the day coming up, and 189 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: we're also gonna hear from Senator Ben Carden. We're talking 190 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: all things foreign policy, and yes, even the super Bowl. Remember, 191 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: you can find our episodes online now through the I 192 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: Heart Radio app, also Bloomberg dot com and on iTunes. 193 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: Just search for sound on Great show coming up, Great guests, 194 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Sireli. You're listening to Bloomberg. You're listening to 195 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: Sound On with Kevin Surreally on Bloomberg and HD to Baltimore. 196 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody. I'm Kevin's Really Bloomberg News Chief Washington correspondent. 197 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: Happy super Bowl Friday. Who are you rooting for the 198 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: Rams or the Patriots? I think it's no secret at 199 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: this point that I'm not a New England Patriots fan 200 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm in Philadelphia Eagles fan, and I will be rooting 201 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: for the Rams, despite what Goidell had to say about 202 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: uh that that call my dash. We're gonna talk much 203 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: more coming up in the program with Senator Ben Cardon 204 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: about the politicization of the NFL and the Trump era, 205 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: and a chief council Brendan Utheridge, chief Council for the 206 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. Also with us coming up in the next 207 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: half hour. Shannon Petty Peace Bloomberg News White House Reporter 208 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: with me taking us through the developments of today. The 209 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: President um en route right now tomorrow Lago where he's 210 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: gonna be preparing for the State of the Union address. 211 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: And it comes following trade talks this week with China. 212 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: It comes following continued domestic negotiations with Democrats over the wall, 213 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: though it would appear that really those negotiations are central 214 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: now happening on Capitol Hill, I would say more so. 215 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: And it also comes as the Muller investigation. And I 216 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: want to quickly bring us up to speed on this 217 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: because we heard from Roger Stone today as well. Shannon, 218 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: what did he have to say, Well, Roger was back 219 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: in court, um so it was another day in the 220 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: Roger circus of you know, him coming out and the 221 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: whole media circus around him. But in then, one of 222 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: the things that came out of that court appearance was 223 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: a judge said that she's considering a gag order against 224 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: Roger and she warned him not to treat this like 225 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: it's a book tour or a talk show appearance. So 226 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: in other words, telling him to tone it down. He 227 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: doesn't know how to do that, or she could impose 228 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: a gag order. Well, um, you know, the issue here 229 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: for Roger, and the counter argument that he's made is that, 230 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: you know, part of his livelihood is being a talk 231 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: show host, a media personality, um, you know, going on 232 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: info Wars, posting things on you know that are controversial 233 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: on social media. Um. But the judge is saying, listen, 234 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: this is a legal proceeding. We need to make sure 235 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: we have a fair trial. And when you think about it, yes, 236 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: at some point if this goes to trial, you're going 237 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: to have a jury of people who are going to 238 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: have to make a determination. And um, the one possibility 239 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: of the trial could be in October. Um, and if 240 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna have nine ten months of Roger out there um, 241 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: you know, pleading his case and giving his side of 242 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: the story, which he is entitled to do it to 243 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: the First Amendment. But at some point that becomes issue 244 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: a question of whether or not he can get a 245 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: fair trial, as if Washington isn't a circus enough to 246 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: Roger Stone in a suit on a courtroom stack. I 247 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: honestly think for Roger Stone a gag order would be 248 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: worse than like being I don't I mean that, that's 249 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: like a pretty damning Rogers Stone of a gag order. 250 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to trump Ball, Washington on a snowy Friday, Volte 251 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: Shannon petty piece, thank you for bringing us up to 252 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: speed on all of the developments of today. I want 253 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: to talk now about my interview earlier with Senator Ben Carton. 254 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: He's a senior member of the Foreign Relations Committee, obviously 255 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: a senior Democratic member of the Senate as well, a 256 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: Democrat from Maryland. We talk all about foreign policy, uh, 257 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: and I started with Venezuela because what you had to 258 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: say about that situation, well, let let's roll say up here, 259 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: Senator Cardion, I do want to start with the issue 260 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 1: of Venezuela and the President's decision to withdraw support from 261 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: the Maduro regime. Is that something that you support. I 262 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: do support that. Under the Venezuelan constitution, Mr President Doro 263 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: has lost all legitimacy and then it falls on the 264 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: National Council for the acting or president until free elections 265 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: can be held. And there's so many different moving parts 266 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: of the situation in Venezuela. One of it is the 267 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: Maduro regime's relationship with Russia, with Vron, and also with 268 00:13:55,120 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 1: certain Chinese telecommunifications firms like ZTE. The president earlier of 269 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: this week meeting with the Chinese delegation on the issue 270 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: of trade. What would you like to see the president 271 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: accomplished between the U S and China on these trade talks? Well, first, 272 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: I think the President has set up the trade agenda 273 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: in a way that has been pretty detrimental. His imposition 274 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: of teariffs first against our closest allies, Canada and other countries. 275 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: And then the way that he handled setting up the 276 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: conversations with China. We lost the help of our trading partners. 277 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: We have legitimate concerns about China, but they should have 278 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: been raised in conjunction with our other trading partners, rather 279 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: than the way the President did it as a way 280 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: the tear As a result, these tariffs have had a 281 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: very detrimental impact on our economy. So what I want 282 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: to see now is the calm things down. Let's get 283 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: into significant trade talks, and let's see whether we can't 284 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: work out a way to to to get a level 285 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: playing field. Uh. You know with our negotiations with China, 286 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: set an Or, you're one of the most senior Democrats 287 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: on the Center Form Relations Committee. I was struck by 288 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: your statement earlier today criticizing, uh, the President's decision to 289 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: withdraw from the Russia US Nuclear Arms treaty. Explain why, UH, 290 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: that you believe that's the wrong decision. I was extremely 291 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: disappointed by what the President did. Make no mistake about 292 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: Russias and violation of the I n F treaty. But 293 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: the treaty is an important part of our arms control 294 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: and leadership globally on reducing the threat of nuclear confrontation. 295 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: We needed to challenge Russia within the context of the 296 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: i n F, not withdrawal from the i n F. 297 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: And now there's a process of six months in which 298 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: we hopefully the negotiations between Russia and the United States 299 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: will result in the treaty remaining in effect. But the 300 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: way the President goes about negotiating really raises I think 301 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: the temperature much more than it should be. Yeah, you know, 302 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: and and all of this comes just a few days 303 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: before the President's State of the Union address. You delivered 304 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: the Democratic Weekly addressed for for this week. And in 305 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: terms of the message that you hope the president strikes, 306 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: that's honed. The President strikes on Tuesday night. What are 307 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: you what are you gonna be looking for? Well, I'm 308 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: always somewhat surprised, but what the President does and through 309 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: his tweets, etcetera, we would like to see the president 310 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: you have a conciliatory tone first with the UH in 311 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: regards to border security and the thirty five day records 312 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: shutdown of the federal government. Would be nice that the 313 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: President would encourage a bipartisan agreement between the Democrats and 314 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: Republicans and border security. Our Conference committee is heading in 315 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: that direction. Rather than trying to blow up those discussions. 316 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: It would be nice of the President would really reach 317 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: out to us and say, look, let's work together, rather 318 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: than having these confrontations as we've seen from from this 319 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: White House that Senator Ben Carton, Democrat from Maryland, coming 320 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: up his thoughts on how the NFL has been infiltrated 321 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: by politics and the Trump era. And remember, you can 322 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: catch my full interview with Senator Cardon on Bloomberg dot com. 323 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: And catch all of our episodes on sound On on 324 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: iTunes now as well as to the Heart Radio app. 325 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: Just go onto iTunes, search for sound On and subscribe 326 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,239 Speaker 1: and you can hear all of our recap of the 327 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: day on the latest policy and politics with all star 328 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: reporters and commentary from the insiders of Washington. Coming up, 329 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 1: we talked football. I'm Kevin SURLEI. You're listening to Bloomberg. 330 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: You're listening to sound On with Kevin Surreally on Bloomberg 331 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: and one oh five seven m h D two Baltimore. 332 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody. I'm Kevin Sile, Bloomberg News Chief Washington correspondent. 333 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: Happy Super Bowl Friday. Who are you rooting for the 334 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: Rams or the Patriots. I think it's no secret at 335 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: this point that I'm not a New England Patriots fan. 336 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: I'm in Philadelphia Eagles fan, and I will be rooting 337 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: for the Rams, despite Widell had to say about uh 338 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: that that call my gosh, We're gonna talk much more 339 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: coming up in the program with Senator Ben Cardon about 340 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: the politicization of the NFL and the Trump era, and 341 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: a chief council Brendan Utheridge, Chief Council for the Baltimore Ravens, 342 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: also with us coming up in the next half hour. 343 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 1: Shannon Petty Peace Bloomberg News White House Reporter with me 344 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: taking us through the developments of today. The President um 345 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: en route right now tomorrow Lago where he's gonna be 346 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: preparing for the State of the Union address. And it 347 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: comes following trade talks this week with China. It comes 348 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: following continued domestic negotiations with Democrats over the Wall, though 349 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: it would appear that really those negotiations are central now 350 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: happening on Capitol Hill, I would say more so. And 351 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: it also comes as the Mueller investigation. And I want 352 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: to quickly bring us up to speed on this because 353 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: we heard from Roger Stone today as well. Shannon. What 354 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: did he have to say? Well, Roger was back in court, um, 355 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: so it was another day in the Rogers circus of 356 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: you know him, you know, coming out in the whole 357 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: media circus around him. But in that one of the 358 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: things that came out of that quarter appearance was a 359 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: judge said that she's considering a gag order against Roger, 360 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: and she warned him not to treat this like it's 361 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: a book tour or a talk show appearance, so in 362 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,719 Speaker 1: other words, telling him to tone it down or she 363 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: could impose a gag order. Well, um, you know the 364 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: issue here for Roger, and the counter argument that he's 365 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: made is that, you know, part of his livelihood is 366 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: being a talk show host, a media personality, Um, you know, 367 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: going on info Wars, posting things on you know that 368 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: are controversial on social media. Um. But the judge is saying, listen, 369 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: this is a legal proceeding. We need to make sure 370 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: we have a fair trial. And when you think about it, yes, 371 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: at some point, if this goes to trial, you're going 372 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: to have a jury of people who are going to 373 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: have to make a determination. And um, the one possibility 374 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: of the trial could be in October. Um, and if 375 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna have nine ten months of Roger out there, um, 376 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: pleading his case and giving his side of the story, 377 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: which he is entitled to doing to the First Amendment. 378 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 1: But at some point that becomes an issue your question 379 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: of whether or not he can get a fair trial, 380 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: as if Washington isn't a circus enough Roger and honestly 381 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: on a courtroom stack, I honestly think for Roger Stone, 382 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: a gag order would be worse than like being I 383 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: don't I mean that that's like a pretty damning Rogers 384 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: jone of a gag order. Welcome to Trump Barrel, Washington 385 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: on a snowy Friday, Volt Shannon petty piece. Thank you 386 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: for bringing us up to speed on all of the 387 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: developments of today. I I want to talk now about 388 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: my interview earlier with Senator Ben Carton. He's a senior 389 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: member of the Foreign Relations Committee, obviously a senior Democratic 390 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: member of the Senate as well, a Democrat from Maryland. 391 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: We talk all about foreign policy, uh, and I started 392 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: with Venezuela because what you had to say about that situation, well, 393 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: let's let's roll say up here, Senator Carton, I do 394 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: want to start with the issue of Venezuela and the 395 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 1: President's decision to withdraw support from the Maduro regime. Is 396 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: that something that you support. I do support that. Under 397 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: the Venezuelan constitution, Mr President Doro has lost all legitimacy 398 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: and then it falls on the National Council for the 399 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: acting or president until free elections can be held. And 400 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: there's so many different moving parts of the situation in Venezuela. 401 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: One of it is the Maduro regime's relationship with Russia, 402 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: with Ron and also with certain Chinese telecommunifications firms like ZTE. 403 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: The president earlier this week meeting with the Chinese delegation 404 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: on the issue of trade. What would you like to 405 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: see the president accomplished between the U S and China 406 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: on these trade talks? Well, first, I think the President 407 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: has set up the trade agenda in a way that 408 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: has been pretty detrimental. His imposition of tearoffs first against 409 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: our closest allies, Canada and other countries, and then the 410 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: way that he handled setting up the conversations with China. 411 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: We lost the help of our trading partners. We have 412 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: legitimate concerns about China, but they should have been raised 413 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: in conjunction with our other trading partners rather than the 414 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: way the President did it as a way that as 415 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: a result, these tariffs have had a very detrimental impact 416 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: on our economy. So what I want to see now 417 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 1: is the calm things down let's get into significant trade talks, 418 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: and let's see whether we can't work out a way 419 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: to to to get a level playing field. Uh. You 420 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: know with our negotiations with China. Senator you're one of 421 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: the most senior Democrats on the Center Form Relations Committee. 422 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: I was struck by your statement earlier today criticizing, uh, 423 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: the President's decision to withdraw from the Russia US Nuclear 424 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: Arms Treaty. Explain why, uh, that you believe that's the 425 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 1: wrong decision. I was extremely disappointed by what the President did. 426 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 1: Make no mistake about Russia's and violation of the I 427 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: n F treaty. But the treaty is an important part 428 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: of our arms control and leadership globally on reducing the 429 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: threat of nuclear confrontation. We needed to challenge Russia within 430 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: the context of the I n F, not withdrawal from 431 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: the I n F. And now there's a process of 432 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: six months in which we hopefully the negotiations between Russia 433 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: and the United States will result in the treaty remaining 434 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: an effect. But the way the President goes about negotiating 435 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: really raises I think the temperature much more than it 436 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: should be. Yeah, you know, and and all of this 437 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: comes just a few days before the President's State of 438 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: the Union address. You delivered the Democratic Weekly addressed for 439 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: for this week. And in terms of the message that 440 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,959 Speaker 1: you hope the president strikes, that's honed the president strikes 441 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 1: on Tuesday night. What are you what are you gonna 442 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: be looking for? Well, I'm always somewhat surprised, but what 443 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: the president does and through his tweets, etcetera, we would 444 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: like to see the president you have a conciliatory tone 445 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: first with the UH in regards to border security in 446 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: the thirty five day records shutdown of the federal government. 447 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: Would be nice that the President would encourage a bipartisan 448 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: agreement between the Democrats and Republicans on border security. Our 449 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: Conference committee is heading in that direction. Rather than trying 450 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: to blow up those discussions. It would be nice of 451 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: the President would really reach out to us and say, look, 452 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: let's work together rather than having these confrontations. As we've 453 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: seen from from this White House, that Senator Ben Carton, 454 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 1: Democrat from Maryland, coming up his thoughts on how the 455 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: NFL has been infiltrated by politics and the Trump era. UH. 456 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: And remember you can catch my full interview with Senator 457 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: Cardon on Bloomberg dot com and catch all of our 458 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,239 Speaker 1: episodes on sound On on iTunes now as well as 459 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: to the heart Radio app. Just go onto iTunes, search 460 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: for a sound On and subscribe and you can hear 461 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: all of our recap of the day on the latest 462 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: policy and politics with all star reporters and commentary from 463 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,239 Speaker 1: the insiders of Washington. Coming up, we talked football. I'm 464 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: Kevin Surli. You're listening to Bloomberg and nine one. You're 465 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: listening to sound On with Kevin's really on Bloomberg and 466 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: one oh seven m h D two Bolton Bold Welcome back. 467 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: Drive safe out there, those roads are slick. Super Bowl weekend. 468 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: We're talking the politics of the NFL, but we also, 469 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: of course, are keeping tabs on all the developments coming 470 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: out of the administration President Trump. He's in mar Lado 471 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: this weekend. He's preparing for that State of the Union 472 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: address Tuesday night. We'll have all Star coverage of that. 473 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: Will be hearing from voices on both sides of the aisle. Remember, 474 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: lawmakers have to get a deal in about just over 475 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: two weeks in order to keep the government open. It 476 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: all comes down to that wall and whether or not 477 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: they're going to be able to, or whether or not 478 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: the President is going to declare a national emergency or not. 479 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: You know, it will be interesting to see what the 480 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: final number is on the wall and whether the President 481 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: decides to go both ways on the issue of declaring 482 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: a national emergency and taking the money from lawmakers. Remember, folks, 483 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: there's a lot of lawyers who work here in Washington. Also, 484 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 1: the developments with the trade this week and US and 485 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: China trade talks continuing to go in a somewhat positive way. 486 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: We also got the job's number, the largest jobs gains, 487 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: largest in the eleven months, but the unemployment rate rose 488 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: now the unemployment rate this month four percent. So we're 489 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: keeping tabs on all that. But we also are of 490 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: course talking the Super Bowl weekend with our Washington Bureau 491 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: chief and NFL sports fan, Craig Gordon and Brandon Etheridge, 492 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: who is the general counsel for the Baltimore Ravens. Brandon, 493 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: so this tweet comes out from President Trump when you 494 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: when you guys are ever in London as players are kneeling, 495 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: and we were talking before the break about how you 496 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: had a moment about whether to ignore it or to 497 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: engage and you met with lawmakers. You met with Congressman Cummings, 498 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: the Democrat from Maryland, Senator Ben Carton, who we had 499 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 1: on earlier in the program, the Democrat from Maryland, and 500 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: then lawmakers essentially gave you guys advice about whether or 501 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: not you wanted to get involved in these political treacherous 502 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: waters of this Trump era. Uh. And I was I 503 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: was really surprised by this that the only NFL team 504 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: to send a letter to to send a majority Leader 505 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell on the bipartisan bill for Criminal justice reform 506 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: was the Baltimore Ravens. Tell me how that came about? Sure, 507 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: so to uh, to really get to the end there, 508 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: you know, back and when we sent that in what 509 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: late November of this past year, we really have to 510 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: go back to our first meeting in December two seventeen 511 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: with Congressman Cummings, where our players really you know, said 512 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: two things they wanted to learn about criminal justice reform. 513 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: It wasn't just about making noise. It was about, hey, 514 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: let me be as educated as I can be on 515 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: the existing legislation, um proposed changes the legislation, and new 516 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: kind of legislation might that might be introduced, but they 517 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: also want to identify, you know, specific ways that they 518 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: could understand what's happening in Baltimore specifically and what steps 519 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: that they could take to make a lot make kids 520 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: lives better on the ground. So there's kind of a 521 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: two print approach there. But the biggest thing that um 522 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: that Connerson Cummings said to us was that any action, 523 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: any demonstration, any protest um that's meant to bring about 524 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: change has to be effective and efficient. If it's not effective, 525 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: effective and efficient, what you're doing is neither uh you know, 526 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: effective nor efficient, it's not gonna work. If it's effective 527 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: but not efficient, it's not gonna work. Right. So, UM, 528 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: I think when you fast forward to that next year, right, 529 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: I think our players spent a lot of their own 530 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: time learning about the issues, right and and some of 531 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: the some of what they know is just what they 532 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: already know, but learn about the issues. Met with Senator 533 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: Cardon's asked what can we do? Center Cardon said, you 534 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: can write a letter to Leader McConnell. And that happened. 535 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: It was effective and efficient and out exactly what we 536 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: needed done. Craig Gordon, Bureau chief for Washington Bloomberg, I 537 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: actually think the administration underplayed their hand on this bi 538 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: partisan criminal justice reform bill. I think it could have 539 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: been a reset. I think I think, you know, you're 540 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: hard pressed to find anyone who disagrees with this bill. 541 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: And truthfully, I mean we were joking in the break 542 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: keeping up with the Kardashian sit an episode on this 543 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: uh so, and you've got one NFL team that's stepped 544 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: up to the plate to engage. They could have done more. 545 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: I mean having just said, Trump has is a master 546 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: at sort of dominating the conversation. The oldest ruling politics is, 547 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: don't step on your own story. If you have a 548 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: good day, let the good day, let that be the 549 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: headline in the morning and the afternoon, the next morning, 550 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: the next morning, and keep that good day as long 551 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: alive as long as possible. Time and time again, Donald Trump, 552 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: he can't help himself. The day they nominated Neil Gorsch 553 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: a great day for the White House, really a complete 554 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: win for conservatives. They managed to put out some other 555 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: story that day where cour which almost became the second 556 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: best story of the day. It happened during Kavanaugh a 557 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: little bit. It's happened at different times where things big 558 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: tax cut win, and yet he's tweeting about the NFL 559 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: and he's taking the air out of his own balloon, 560 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: and you you just scratch your head. As someone we've 561 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: covered politicial for a long time together, Kevin, like you 562 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: sort of watched this happen and these are unforced errors 563 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: and then they really make a lot of them. You've 564 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: got less than a minute I could talk about I 565 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: could go on in this segment, as you guys know, 566 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: for a while, but Brandon, I want to give you 567 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: the final work here. And we are really pressed for 568 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: time diversity at the executive level in the NFL. I 569 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: know this is something that really you're just leading by 570 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: example on. I'm trying to um look, but to act 571 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: like I started this UM at the executive level UM 572 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: would would just be such a great disservice to the 573 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: people who fought before me for me to be here, 574 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: and and one that I in particularly have to call out, 575 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: especially because you know today's the first day Black History Month. 576 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: Is the first black general manager in NFL history, Ozzy Newsom, 577 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: who was my inspiration, who just stepped down. We have 578 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: a new general manager air to Costa um. But it 579 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: is incredibly important We're doing great work, but that's all 580 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: we can say. Brandon Ethridge, one of the youngest, only 581 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: black executives in the league, Thanks for coming on. Have 582 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: a good weekend everybody. Kevin CURRELLI you're listening to sound 583 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: on h