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Speaker 1: Welcome in Friday edition nowur number two Klay Travis Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us

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Speaker 1: as we are powering through this program. Buck, We'll be

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Speaker 1: back with me on Monday. Traveling around with his family today.

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Speaker 1: As often the case during the course of the summer season,

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Speaker 1: especially with the amount of time that we spent down

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Speaker 1: in South Florida with a bunch of advertisers, we were

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Speaker 1: supposed to be several of us from the iHeart crew

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Speaker 1: in the air shortly headed to Israel. All of the flights, however,

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Speaker 1: have been canceled for today that are headed into Israel,

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Speaker 1: even on l Al Airline, which we were told almost

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Speaker 1: never cancels, because there is an expectation that Iran Lebanon

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Speaker 1: that they're going to respond to the attacks that Israel

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Speaker 1: has undertaken in an effort to respond to the twelve

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Speaker 1: innocent people who were killed in northern Israel with a

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Speaker 1: Hesbola rocket that hit are a soccer field and injured

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Speaker 1: many young kids. So that has raised the level of

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Speaker 1: danger in that area to such extent that they are

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Speaker 1: limiting all travel from the United States to Israel right now.

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Speaker 1: What is the latest on the ground there. What should

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Speaker 1: we expect? David Affoon is in our New York City

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Speaker 1: studio right now. He's an expert on what's going on

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Speaker 1: in Israel, and I know that it's kind of a

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Speaker 1: complicated situation for many people out there right now. Sovid,

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Speaker 1: what can you tell us about the absolute latest? What

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Speaker 1: should we expect? Is this a situation where Iran, Lebanon

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Speaker 1: and their terror ally strike you think in the next

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Speaker 1: few days. Is it something that stretches weeks? What happens now?

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Speaker 2: Well, good to be with you, Clay. What we're seeing now,

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Speaker 2: in response to a series of really henous attacks over

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Speaker 2: the last number of months on innocent Israelis and its

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Speaker 2: terror proxies is probably what you could best describe as

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Speaker 2: a hell storm of Israeli come uppance that Iran and

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Speaker 2: its terror proxies are facing. You've seen the deputy head

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Speaker 2: politiborough of Hamas Ismailhania assassinated in Tehran, and also confirmation

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Speaker 2: that muhammadf the terror mastermind, was indeed assassinated in the

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Speaker 2: Gaza strip. You know, the Israelis sometimes lose focus and

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Speaker 2: perhaps that was what happened in the years and months

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Speaker 2: that led up to the attacks on October seventh. But

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Speaker 2: when they are focused at eradicating their enemies, my god, they're.

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Speaker 1: Good, no doubt. And when you look at this situation,

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Speaker 1: I mean we're ten months basically since everything took place

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Speaker 1: in in the October seventh attack. This feels quite clearly

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Speaker 1: from a US perspective that this is going to extend

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Speaker 1: into our election cycle. What do you think? And again,

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Speaker 1: you're the publisher of the New York Sun, by the way,

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Speaker 1: for people who don't know, what do you think Israeli's

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Speaker 1: think of our upcoming election and the potential outcome? Now,

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Speaker 1: if Kamala Harris is the nominee versus if Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: is the nominee, how much of an impact If net

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Speaker 1: and Yahoo were being honest with us, does he think

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Speaker 1: the selection of our next president will have when it

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Speaker 1: comes to Israel's ability to defend itself in the Middle East?

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Speaker 2: I mean, it has a very significant impact, and more

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Speaker 2: than anything, it has a significant impact on the strength

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Speaker 2: of US Israel relations. I mean, the truth is that

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Speaker 2: meddling in the Middle East and Israeli affairs is old

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Speaker 2: news when it comes to American administrations, by the way,

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Speaker 2: on both sides of the isle, both Democrats and Republicans.

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Speaker 2: I mean it was President George Bush really pressured or

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Speaker 2: could old Ariel Sharon to pull out of Gaza in

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Speaker 2: the first place of two thousand and five, and then

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Speaker 2: cousin Leeza Rice insisted that they allow Hamas to run

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Speaker 2: in elections in two thousand and seven. So meddling in

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Speaker 2: the Middle East is old news for old administrations. The

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Speaker 2: truth is that the administration of Donald Trump was really

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Speaker 2: the only administration in history that deferred more to the

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Speaker 2: support you. Let us know what's helpful and how we

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Speaker 2: it will make a huge difference. You know, Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: administration would be very supportive of Israel's efforts now to

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Speaker 1: No doubt as you sort of contemplate that that playing

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Speaker 1: Where are we in terms of trying to exactly examine

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Speaker 2: You know, I think you hit the nail on the

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Speaker 2: Of course, you know, the age old lesson of Churchill

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Speaker 2: the Iranians are going to be upset now and they're

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Speaker 2: going to bite back. Sure, they're going to make a

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Speaker 2: there are some folks that are really, really nervous. I mean,

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Speaker 2: It just tells every single level of leadership in Iran

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Speaker 1: A lot of yeah, no, sorry, I was gonna cut

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Speaker 1: Suddenly the attention is on has Boa. How does this end?

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Speaker 2: I think one thing's for sure is that if history

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Speaker 2: that to Black September, you know, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: your listeners no. Black September was a terror group that

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Speaker 2: was among Israel's premier foes in the seventies and eighties.

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Speaker 2: In fact, during the nineteen seventy two Olympic Games, there

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Speaker 2: Israel and its security services set the goal of completely

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Speaker 2: It took them ten years and Black September just doesn't

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Speaker 2: change in the security apparatus in Israel. They cannot. The

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Speaker 2: And that's when you're going to see things start to settle.

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Speaker 1: And if things start to settle down, what if that

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Speaker 1: From your perspective, well.

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Speaker 2: I think you know what Israel wants from an ally,

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Speaker 2: and I think what all allies would want from each

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of business that's done. Obviously, there's there's

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Speaker 2: But really it's it's you know, we want the Israelis

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Speaker 2: a good US Israel relationship is the product of, you know,

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Speaker 2: what you'd expect from supportive allies and approach that you'd

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden administration it's very qualified, and under the and

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Speaker 1: David Afoon, publisher of the New York Sun, Well appreciate

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Speaker 1: you coming into the New York City studio and sharing

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Speaker 1: all this breakdown with all of us. Always a pleasure,

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. And I just mentioned that we

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Speaker 1: of Christians and Jews. With all the tensions going on,

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Speaker 1: they canceled our flight to be able to go to Israel.

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Speaker 1: Most of I believe the flights to Israel, if not

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Speaker 1: all shut down, and the fact is that many Jewish

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Speaker 1: to live their lives in total freedom as all of

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Speaker 1: all they can to help Israeli citizens. You can join

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Speaker 1: thank them for helping to meet the urgent security needs

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Speaker 1: of everyone in Israel. It was interesting. One of the

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Speaker 1: So highest unemployment rate in almost three years, just in

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Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. I know

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Speaker 1: I said that this was the election of economy, border crime, Economy,

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Speaker 1: Amaze on Twitter to go back and combine Sonny Hostin

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Speaker 5: Listen, Nikki Hayley's gone by Nikki since she was a child.

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Speaker 6: Here going by.

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Speaker 6: That can be chameleons and decide not to embrace our

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Speaker 7: I think to question someone's racial identity, actually him, especially him,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, necessary, you know, I think if she leaned into

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Speaker 1: to be fair, but she married a Jewish white guy.

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Speaker 1: She has no kids of her own, she didn't get

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Speaker 1: Her mom is Indian. She didn't have a substantial relationship,

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Speaker 1: to my understanding, with her father, so she was primarily

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Speaker 1: raised by her mother's Indian family. Nothing's wrong with that.

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Speaker 1: But by bringing all that up, Trump basically said, hey,

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Speaker 1: she wanted to be seen as Indian until she decided

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Speaker 1: there was more value to be seen as black. Now,

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Speaker 1: the reality is she's both right, and so that's where

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Speaker 1: I think it's unfair in some ways to say, oh,

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Speaker 1: she's not black, Oh she's not Indian, because it's doing

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Speaker 1: the same thing in some ways that Biden did, where

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Speaker 1: the reality is, in my opinion, we all have way

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Speaker 1: more in common across racial lines than we do indifferent.

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Speaker 1: That's why I think the Trump message should be economy,

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Speaker 1: border crime, because there's a lot of Black guys out

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Speaker 1: there that are like, Yeah, economy, border crime, That's what

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Speaker 1: I'm voting on. There's a lot of Hispanic guys out there,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of Asian women. That is a unifying

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Speaker 1: message that cuts across identity politics. In some ways, what

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Speaker 1: Trump is doing by making that attack is actually using

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Speaker 1: Democrat Party identity politics and actually endorsing it in some

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Speaker 1: way with his attack. Now, I think what Trump believes

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Speaker 1: is that that actually is going to undercut Kamala Harris's

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Speaker 1: support in the black community. Is he right or is

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Speaker 1: my argument that ultimately the way to appeal to black, Hispanic, Asian,

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Speaker 1: border crime and leave the identity politics to the Democrats.

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Speaker 1: What do you think? And I'm asking specifically, we have

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Speaker 1: or minority listeners, how will that play in your community

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Speaker 1: this weekend and you talk with your friends, how will

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Speaker 1: Trump's argument, in your opinion at the National Association of

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Speaker 1: your weekend activities. I don't claim to be an expert

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Speaker 1: That's the election unites everybody saying, Oh are you black?

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Speaker 1: Are you Indian? What is your ethnicity? Does it register?

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Speaker 1: I think it's a fascinating question. I think it's a

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Speaker 1: big gamble. And Trump trust intuitively his political instincts, and

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Speaker 1: he's been right a lot. But on my take, I

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Speaker 1: letting Kamala Harris off the hooks for her failures when

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Speaker 1: you discuss things that she had no control over. None

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Speaker 1: of us can control who our mom or dad are,

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Speaker 1: who our grandma or grandpa, are, what their ethnicities are,

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Speaker 1: what they did good or bad. Kamala and Biden can

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Speaker 1: control the choices they made in the White House to

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Speaker 1: me go after the choices economy, border crime. But am

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Speaker 1: Like I was going to vote for Kamala Harris. Then

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Speaker 1: As we are rolling through the Friday edition of the program.

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Speaker 1: Several of you want to weigh in breaking news and

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Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit more about this at the

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Speaker 1: top of the next hour. Kamala Harris has officially secured

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Speaker 1: the Democrat nomination. Now some of you are saying, wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, the actual Democrat convention is not until late

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Speaker 1: August in Chicago. You're right. They did a non public

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Speaker 1: online voter nomination role. This is what Joe Biden was

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Speaker 1: hoping to do before they said Nanna na, Joe, You're out.

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Speaker 1: So they have officially nominated Kamala Harris. So she is

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Speaker 1: the nominee. She's gonna be picking her VP soon. We

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Speaker 1: will talk about the beepsteaks for Kamala at the top

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Speaker 1: of the next hour. But a bunch of you went

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Speaker 1: to weigh in with a discussion. We just had Sean

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Speaker 1: in Newport News, Virginia. Black guy, how does Trump attacking

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris's blackness play to you and those around you?

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on the showfellas. This is exactly

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Speaker 3: why we wanted Trump to pick somebody like Byron Donald's.

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Speaker 3: We knew that no matter what the Democrats was gonna say,

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Speaker 3: anything Trump brought was racist or sexist. All Trump has

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Speaker 3: to do with disagree with Kamala Harris, and they're gonna

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Speaker 3: say he's racist and sexist. But if you pick somebody

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Speaker 3: like Byron Donalds, that completely takes the race issue out

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Speaker 3: of it, and they have a gentleman as such that

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Speaker 3: could attack Kamala Harris on her ethnicity and lying about it.

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Speaker 1: Yep, I Sean, I'm with you. This is why now,

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Speaker 1: I said Tim Scott, we've had Byron Donald's on the

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Speaker 1: show a lot. We really like him as well. I

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Speaker 1: thought that was the direction Trump should go, and I've

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Speaker 1: said this for a while. I think Trump has a

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Speaker 1: lot Thank you for the call. I think Trump has

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Speaker 1: a lot of blackmail supporters. I think Republicans in general

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Speaker 1: are gaining a lot of black male supporters. I think

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Speaker 1: if Trump had picked picked personally a black male running mate,

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Speaker 1: you had to think they might elevate Kamala. I think

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Speaker 1: Sean just nailed it. You could have that discussion among

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Speaker 1: black voters and among black candidates. That would be a

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Speaker 1: fair discussion. But as soon as Trump says anything, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's racist, it's sexist, identity politic attacks that actually motivates

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Speaker 1: the Democrat base. Caroline in Houston, immigrant from Cameroon, what

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Speaker 1: do you think about this story, Claire?

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Speaker 8: I think race really doesn't matter to me. I'm I'm

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Speaker 8: a black woman from Africa. Race shouldn't be an issue.

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Speaker 8: Let's look at policies. Let's look at what Trum has

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Speaker 8: done to the black community. Let's look at what the

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Speaker 8: difference between Trump and Kamala Harris, what Trum has done

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Speaker 8: to the black community. So let's look at policies and

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Speaker 8: not race. I am not looking at race because no

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Speaker 8: matter what, the race card is always gonna be played,

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Speaker 8: no matter what Trum does, it's always going to be

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Speaker 8: something about race. So I am voting for Trum not

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Speaker 8: based on race, and voting for Trum based on policies.

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Speaker 8: And especially because I know that our daughters, oh boys

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Speaker 8: will not be allowed to pleach in girls sports. That

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Speaker 8: matters to me a lot. And I know that Trump

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Speaker 8: tends for our ghos and for women. So that's my

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Speaker 8: reason why I'll be voting for Trump. Race doesn't matter.

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Speaker 8: Policy yets not race.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the call, Caroline, that would suggest again

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Speaker 1: my argument, economy, border crime, ebc uh RAINA in Texas.

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Speaker 1: What do you think.

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Speaker 8: Firmly believe that Common needs to go home. We don't

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Speaker 8: need a woman as a vice president or president.

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Speaker 1: So you're just out on her. Is there any woman

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Speaker 1: on the planet that you would like to see as

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Speaker 1: president or vice president.

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Speaker 8: No, regardless of race, women do not belong in those positions.

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Speaker 1: Uh so you're thank you for the call, Rada. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate raina female calling in and saying no woman should

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Speaker 1: be vice president or president. Maybe some of you agree

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Speaker 1: with that. I don't. I don't. I think there's plenty

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Speaker 1: of women that could be president or vice president personally,

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Speaker 1: but I do think that Trump going EBC, economy, border crime,

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Speaker 1: it's the key to this race. Let me just say

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Speaker 1: this too, by the way, I don't think anybody should

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Speaker 1: be excluded from any job because of their race or

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Speaker 1: their sex. I mean that because if you're doing that,

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Speaker 1: that's the foundation of racism or sexism. And the best

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Speaker 1: person at something might be someone you don't expect to

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Speaker 1: be great at it. That's the benefit of American opportunity

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Speaker 1: and the meritocracy. Let the best man or best woman win,

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Speaker 1: like used to happen in sports before we decided the

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Speaker 1: best woman could be a man pretending to be a woman.

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Speaker 1: Likes happening at the Olympics. Right now, we'll talk a

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Speaker 1: bit about that and the deep Steaks. Who is Kamala

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Speaker 1: gonna pick and how could it impact things? I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you next