WEBVTT - Oh Darlene...

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington Broadcast Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now,

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<v Speaker 2>here's Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyota Masaev, a dentist and the only doctor on board,

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<v Speaker 1>ran toward the cockpit. He told us he found the

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<v Speaker 1>captain severely wounded and helped stop the bleeding. He says

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<v Speaker 1>the captain was praying and he was afraid he would

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<v Speaker 1>lose him.

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<v Speaker 2>Others holding the attacker.

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<v Speaker 1>Down tied his hands with headphone cords and kept him

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<v Speaker 1>pinned for 55 minutes until the plane landed in Saudi Arabia.

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<v Speaker 2>So who actually landed the plane? Somebody was on board

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<v Speaker 2>that was an actual pilot?

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<v Speaker 3>Two relief pilots who were supposed to take over. You

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<v Speaker 3>know how a plane flies several legs in a day.

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<v Speaker 3>It was the end of the shift for the guys

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<v Speaker 3>in the cockpit.

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<v Speaker 2>Lucky them.

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<v Speaker 3>So the two guys were on board ready to just

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<v Speaker 3>move into the cockpit for the next flight.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a plumber that got in there. He says

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<v Speaker 2>strangled the wannabe terrorist. then hold back on the stick

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<v Speaker 2>in the way that we've all seen in TV shows.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's exactly how he knew how to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, I saw it on TV that kept the

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<v Speaker 2>plane from plunging into the ground and killing everybody, which

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<v Speaker 2>is just, I mean, it had to be seconds away

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<v Speaker 2>from everybody dying. It had to be, they're going 700

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<v Speaker 2>miles an hour.

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<v Speaker 3>So, uh, Benjamin Netanyahu, and maybe we can get this

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<v Speaker 3>audio at some point, uh, was talking to Fox news just, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>not long ago. And there were a couple of, things

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<v Speaker 3>he revealed that were especially interesting. Number one, the co-pilot,

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<v Speaker 3>who was the murderous jihadi, allegedly, was bound and gagged

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<v Speaker 3>and all. He was repeatedly begging the crew to kill him.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>It was clear he was suicidal. That's not a question.

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<v Speaker 3>It was clear he was going to down that plane.

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<v Speaker 3>The second thing Netanyahu said that was very interesting was

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<v Speaker 3>he said the co-pilot, who's not yet been publicly identified,

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<v Speaker 3>had undergone, quote, Islamist radical indoctrination before the attack, although

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<v Speaker 3>he could not say for certain whether or not he

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<v Speaker 3>was connected to Iran or another terrorist organization in particular.

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<v Speaker 3>He'd been flying with FlyDubai for less than a year.

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<v Speaker 2>So you told us earlier that this wannabe jihadi, perhaps...

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<v Speaker 2>Was pretty extreme, at least currently, where he wouldn't shake

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<v Speaker 2>hands with a woman or a variety of things.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they talked to one of his co-workers and said, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he's a fundamentalist type.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not crazy to think that Iran was able to

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<v Speaker 2>get to, you know, let's look for some pilots and

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<v Speaker 2>just ask around a little bit. Hey, what do you

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<v Speaker 2>think about Israel? You know, get the guy to say

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<v Speaker 2>something a little negative, feel him out, and then approach him.

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<v Speaker 2>It wouldn't be that hard. Yeah, yeah, that's absolutely possible.

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<v Speaker 3>On the other hand, you know, these people, their worldview

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<v Speaker 3>is Islam must triumph. We are justified in doing anything

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<v Speaker 3>to bring about that triumph. The Jews are the most

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<v Speaker 3>evil of humans, so we must exterminate the Jews. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not unreasonable to think that this guy just thought, I

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm going to do. I mean, if China

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<v Speaker 3>were to take over America and I saw an opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>to strike a serious blow against our new communist overlords,

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody would have to recruit me.

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<v Speaker 2>I would just do it. If that guy had been successful,

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<v Speaker 2>and again, I think he'd do that experiment 100 times,

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<v Speaker 2>he's successful 99 times. Certainly quite a few, yeah. The

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<v Speaker 2>fact that that pilot was able to get that door

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<v Speaker 2>open in time for somebody to pull back on the

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<v Speaker 2>stick when they're pointed toward the ground at 700 miles

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<v Speaker 2>an hour. But if that plane had crashed and everybody

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<v Speaker 2>had died, I think Israel would have bombed the crap

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<v Speaker 2>out of Iran before they got any details.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't want to wait around a long time if

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<v Speaker 2>you think we're under attack by....

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and again, to your 99 times out of 100,

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<v Speaker 3>whether that number literally is true or not, they struggled

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<v Speaker 3>to land the plane because that plane is not supposed

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<v Speaker 3>to fly at that speed. And it had busted apart.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was the rudder. And so they're having

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<v Speaker 3>trouble controlling the plane. So who knows how many more

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<v Speaker 3>You know, a thousand feet of plunging would have done

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<v Speaker 3>in the rudder completely or the– I can't remember the

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<v Speaker 3>thing that changes your elevation on the tail.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not a pilot. But, yes, thank God and the.

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<v Speaker 3>Plumber and the dentist who stabilized the pilot and the

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<v Speaker 3>two pilots on board.

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<v Speaker 2>They had to be seconds away from dying. Who knows?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Surely the Mossad is getting more information out of this weirdo.

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<v Speaker 2>They're having a word with him, yes. As we speak.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, back to the botched execution in Tennessee

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<v Speaker 2>that's getting a fair amount of attention. We got a

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<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of these texts, so I should pass them along,

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose. How do we have 100,000 people dropping dead

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<v Speaker 2>from one fentanyl pill? And we can't kill somebody. Give

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<v Speaker 2>them a couple of fentanyl pills. Well said, friends. Well said. Here,

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<v Speaker 2>snort this. Oh my God, that's such a good point. Here,

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<v Speaker 2>smoke this. Snort it. Drink it. You can do whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you want. It's fentanyl. You'll be dead. You've got all

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<v Speaker 2>these unfortunate stories of a college kid thinking they're taking

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<v Speaker 2>a Xanax and it's got fentanyl in it and they're dead.

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<v Speaker 2>One pill. And we can't kill somebody who we're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to kill.

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<v Speaker 3>This is precisely the intention of the anti-death penalty squads.

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<v Speaker 3>Try to make it as difficult and complicated as possible

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<v Speaker 3>so it's more likely to be botched. I get as

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<v Speaker 3>a strategy, it's insidious but clever. But that's what they

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<v Speaker 3>are doing. You give me 10 minutes. You give me

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<v Speaker 3>10 minutes. Well, I don't even need 10 minutes because

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<v Speaker 3>we already have. I could come up with two or

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<v Speaker 3>three different ways to make 100% sure that this person

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<v Speaker 3>is no longer alive and they will not suffer.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not even hard. No, I don't think so. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>the fragility of human life, etc., etc. Cater, are you

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<v Speaker 2>available to comment on a Babylon Bee headline that I

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<v Speaker 2>found funny yesterday?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>First, this one. This is not the one, but I

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was funny. We're leading up to the one.

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<v Speaker 2>Picture of a crosswalk and the button. Pedestrian pushes crosswalk

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<v Speaker 2>button 17 times just to be safe. That is true. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we do. We all do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, we do.

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<v Speaker 2>A minimum of three. But I like this one. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a husband and wife on a couch, and she looks distraught.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Wife frustrated that husband doesn't realize she wants him to

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<v Speaker 2>be quiet and also talk to her and also leave

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<v Speaker 2>her alone and also come talk to her. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>that in my soul. Do all of it at once.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, boy, that's a funny one.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's actually a really good point, because if you're chatty,

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<v Speaker 5>it's like, okay, I just want to sit here and

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<v Speaker 5>watch my show.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're not talking, it's like, well, then what's wrong? Right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want you to solve my problems, but... Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The best one of those ever, ever is so good.

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<v Speaker 3>I think I read it on the air once. A woman,

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<v Speaker 3>her husband picks her up and isn't saying much. And

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<v Speaker 3>he's in a bit of a mood and they go

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<v Speaker 3>to eat. And he's just, again, he's distant. He's somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 3>And she is worried. And imagines an affair and he's

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<v Speaker 3>leaving me and oh my god it's over what have

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<v Speaker 3>i done did i deserve this she cries herself to

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<v Speaker 3>sleep etc etc husband's thinking a.

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<v Speaker 2>Two-foot pot who misses a two-foot pot so i got

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<v Speaker 2>several more babylon bees that i grabbed the other day

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<v Speaker 2>so we'll just run through these because they're all funny

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<v Speaker 2>is it babylon bees or babylon's bee i don't know

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<v Speaker 2>Bicyclist wants to be treated like a car, but also

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<v Speaker 2>be able to just kind of break the rules whenever

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. That's pretty good. Yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's a guy playing catch in the backyard with his son.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Man playing outside baseball with his son has no idea

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<v Speaker 2>what terrible thing happened in the news today. Oh, wow. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that one was a little truthy. Picture of a certain restaurant. Report.

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<v Speaker 2>Chili's only gets bad rap because it's awful. This one

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with. I don't understand it. Uber driver carefully

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<v Speaker 2>selects worst possible photo for profile. Yeah, what is that?

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<v Speaker 5>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, dude. I mean, you're not a model, but

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<v Speaker 2>you don't look like this. Right. Oh, I haven't told

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<v Speaker 2>my Uber story. I don't think about the picture. I'll

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<v Speaker 2>have to tell that. I was going to say, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Brought this up the other day and nobody really jumped

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<v Speaker 3>at it, but there's this, well, it's probably 99% online,

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<v Speaker 3>but this online debate going on about Uber slash Lyft

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<v Speaker 3>drivers that for a while.

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<v Speaker 2>It was that, you know, the driver was stanky.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And that became a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And some of those folks are foreign born and have

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<v Speaker 3>different views of deodorants, et cetera. But now the thing

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<v Speaker 3>is you get into a car and they've got like

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<v Speaker 3>eight deodorizers.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's like you're in the midst of a chemical

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<v Speaker 3>spill and you can't even breathe and it's overwhelming. And

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<v Speaker 3>now people are, griping about that. Just one, one at most.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't need two hanging from your rearview mirror, and

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<v Speaker 3>then one in each vent of the car, some sort

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<v Speaker 3>of glade auto you know version or whatever and then

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<v Speaker 3>you're a thick with cologne and the rest of it

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<v Speaker 3>oh stop.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think i told told my small town kansas

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<v Speaker 2>uber story on the air i will in just a

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<v Speaker 2>second a couple more babylon b jokes no one notices

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<v Speaker 2>as the entire cast of the view replaced with shrieking

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<v Speaker 2>feral pigs That's my favorite one. I like this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Dyslexic Gavin Newsom celebrates $ 1. 87 gas. What the hell is

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<v Speaker 2>going on? Remember his old, I can't even read a book.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is not a good look for a small town, Kansas.

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<v Speaker 2>This town almost got obliterated by a tornado last night.

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<v Speaker 2>But we landed at the airport. United now flies into

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<v Speaker 2>this little town, actually, where Joe and I started our

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<v Speaker 2>radio careers. United now flies into that town. So I

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<v Speaker 2>flew direct when I went to see my parents. But

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<v Speaker 2>I was getting there at 1230 at night, and I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't even sure there'd be any Uber or Lyft that

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<v Speaker 2>time of night. So I asked some friends who live there,

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<v Speaker 2>and they said there should be somebody around. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I dial up an Uber from the airport, 1230 in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning on a weeknight in a very small town

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<v Speaker 2>in rural America. And there is somebody available, and the

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<v Speaker 2>picture comes up, and it's got a woman's name, Darlene

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<v Speaker 2>or something like that. And I thought... Obviously, this isn't Darlene.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've seen this happen before where the picture doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>match the name, and it seems like a husband and

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<v Speaker 2>a wife or boyfriend and girlfriend are, like, sharing their

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<v Speaker 2>account or something like that, which probably isn't cool, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care. But it's fine. But so, like, this

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<v Speaker 2>old dude, this fat old dude, was clearly not Darlene.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Darlene shows up. Yep, that was Darlene. That

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<v Speaker 2>was absolutely Darlene. She just looks like an old fat man,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's smoking in her... Early 90s pickup. She's smoking

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<v Speaker 2>a cigarette with a dog sitting in the seat. Oh, my.

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<v Speaker 2>That is quaint. There's three of us. So I get in,

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<v Speaker 2>sit next to the dog, which was fine with me.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't bother me. Very cute dog. And I petted the

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<v Speaker 2>dog all the way to the hotel and everything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>The cigarette smoke I could have done without. And poor Darlene.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, wait, now, is Darlene just homely or is it

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<v Speaker 3>a transgender thing?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it was just, she was just not an attractive woman.

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<v Speaker 2>And doing that thing, the Babylon Bee joke, like, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't look as bad as this picture. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>are clearly a woman. This picture, you look like an

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<v Speaker 2>old man.

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<v Speaker 4>Darlene.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she's complaining about I hardly make money anymore

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<v Speaker 2>smoking a cigarette because gas prices so high. I drove

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<v Speaker 2>two people to Wichita last week and I barely broke

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<v Speaker 2>even on the gas. What's because you're driving in a

0:12:37.270 --> 0:12:41.890
<v Speaker 2>Ram 2500 from the early 90s and probably getting 11

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<v Speaker 2>miles to the gallon. What are you doing, Darlene? Plus

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<v Speaker 2>the cost of smokes. Plus the cigarettes and the dog food.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my, my, my, both my boys were just really

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<v Speaker 2>struggling not to laugh because they understood all of where

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<v Speaker 2>everything was going on here. Because I had said to them,

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<v Speaker 2>that's clearly not Darlene when I showed them the picture

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<v Speaker 2>of the, and then we got in the car. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>the boys were with you? Yes. Oh, I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Me and my two teenagers got into her truck. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why I had to sit next to the dog. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>were they in the cab or were they with you?

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<v Speaker 2>It was a, it was a crew cab. So they

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<v Speaker 2>were sitting in the backseat, but. Yeah, I guess there's

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<v Speaker 2>not a lot of competition 1230 at night in this town.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, give her five stars because what was my

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<v Speaker 2>other option? Walking? There are a pack of smokes back there, boys.

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<v Speaker 2>Pass it up front, would you? He don't bite much.

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<v Speaker 2>More on the way. Stay here. Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>I have all sorts of arguably, well, not arguably, economic-type

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<v Speaker 3>stories here. But I finally got a chance to dig

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<v Speaker 3>further into that Wall Street Journal poll about how folks

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<v Speaker 3>on both sides of the aisle now are embracing, like,

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<v Speaker 3>populist economic stuff, price caps and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just, I think we may be doomed as

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<v Speaker 2>a people. That credit card one particularly, like 90% between

0:14:07.270 --> 0:14:10.329
<v Speaker 2>Republicans and Democrats say credit cards should be capped at 10%

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<v Speaker 2>interest rate. That makes no sense if you talk about

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<v Speaker 2>it for like five minutes. Well, there are a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of examples. Child care costs. Rent.

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<v Speaker 3>Rent increases should be limited. The government should be in

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<v Speaker 3>charge of that, the rest of it. It's the road

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<v Speaker 3>to serfdom.

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<v Speaker 4>Read it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a little dry, but interesting. And then you've got this.

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<v Speaker 3>Mortgages have now gone significantly above 7% as the bond market,

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<v Speaker 3>I will not bore you, is super concerned about government

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<v Speaker 3>spending itself into suicidal debt, not only the United States,

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<v Speaker 3>but Europe and the rest of it.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's getting tougher for the deadbeat government to

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<v Speaker 2>borrow money. Deadbeat is an overstatement.

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<v Speaker 3>People are more and more nervous about holding government debt.

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<v Speaker 3>and it's inched the interest rates up, and so now

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<v Speaker 3>mortgages are above 7%. And just when the housing market

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<v Speaker 3>ought to be untangling itself from the weirdness of the

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<v Speaker 3>COVID years and the post-2007, 2008 crash years, there are

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of factors combining to hold interest rates high,

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<v Speaker 3>and normally that would drive prices lower, Because, look, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to buy your house, but I can only afford

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<v Speaker 3>X amount of payment, and these are the interest rates. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm buying your house, your price has to be lower, right?

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<v Speaker 3>But that's not happening because inventory is so tight, because

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<v Speaker 3>people are still in their 3% to 4% mortgages in

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<v Speaker 3>the wake of the pandemic. And so every time it

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<v Speaker 3>looks like there may be signs it'll shake out, something

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<v Speaker 3>else happens, so the housing market continues to be really,

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<v Speaker 3>really weird. I thought this was really interesting, and we

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<v Speaker 3>don't have a lot of time for it, but if

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<v Speaker 3>inflation is high, nothing else matters. And the Republicans and Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>they ought to be jailed for how terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Their messaging is around inflation. They deserve to lose the midterms.

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<v Speaker 2>They suck.

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<v Speaker 3>The idea that America would put Democrats back in charge

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<v Speaker 3>because the one thing they're pissed off about is inflation

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<v Speaker 3>is so insane of giving up on democracy. But I'm

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<v Speaker 3>looking at the price change of goods since 2012. Beef

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<v Speaker 3>and veal are up 98%. They've doubled, essentially. Bread is

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<v Speaker 3>up half again just since 2012. Alcoholic beverages are up 31%.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you want to drink more, and then you have

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<v Speaker 3>to pay for that. It compounds. Used vehicles are up 20%.

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<v Speaker 3>New vehicles, 25%. Pet and pet products, 24%. Furniture's up.

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<v Speaker 3>Apparel is up a little bit. Appliances, oddly enough, are down.

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<v Speaker 3>But vehicle, here's where it gets insane.

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<v Speaker 4>Services.

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<v Speaker 3>Vehicle insurance is up between 117 and 124%. Vehicle repair

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<v Speaker 3>is up 80%. Yep, I've noticed that.

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<v Speaker 2>Rent. Food away from home is 70%. Daycare and preschool, 60%.

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<v Speaker 2>College tuition, 55-ish percent. Public, everything, everything is skyrocketing. And

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<v Speaker 2>even if we got inflation under control, how long would

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<v Speaker 2>it take before you get used to the new prices?

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<v Speaker 2>I've been wondering that since it started. I'm still shocked

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<v Speaker 2>every time I buy beef, for instance. Still shocked. Or

0:17:14.290 --> 0:17:16.780
<v Speaker 2>your wages rise enough to make it meaningless. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to take a while.

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<v Speaker 3>Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 6>A water park in Las Vegas recently gathered nearly 300

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<v Speaker 6>dogs to set the Guinness World Record for largest dog

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<v Speaker 6>pool party. Then they also set a record for most

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<v Speaker 6>dogs with mysterious rashes.

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<v Speaker 2>You had something to tease?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, an update on the bizarre case of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Mother and father-in-law gunning down the allegedly abusive trans New

0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:56.479
<v Speaker 3>York Times husband slash dad.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Okay, I look forward to that. I've always been

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<v Speaker 2>fascinated by Richard Nixon, and I'm not exactly sure why

0:18:04.070 --> 0:18:06.970
<v Speaker 2>that presidency holds fascination for him. It might just be

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<v Speaker 2>it was the first presidency I was able to really

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<v Speaker 2>be aware of and understand on any level. And all

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<v Speaker 2>the Watergate stuff was happening when I was a little

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<v Speaker 2>kid and it was on TV all the time. And

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<v Speaker 2>maybe it's that. I don't know. He's also just fascinating

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<v Speaker 2>flat out, no matter what period of history you grew

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<v Speaker 2>up in. So I've been interested in this. The Nixon

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<v Speaker 2>tapes have finally been unlocked. Neil Ferguson, who we really,

0:18:31.220 --> 0:18:33.980
<v Speaker 2>really like on this show, historian, and this guy, Luke Nictor,

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<v Speaker 2>are using AI to decipher 3,400 hours of of Nixon's

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<v Speaker 2>secretly recorded conversations. Finally, we can hear the controversial presidency

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<v Speaker 2>as it actually happened. There are 3,400 hours of tapes

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<v Speaker 2>that came from Nixon's White House. He installed a tape recorder.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know this. Um, well, let me read this

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<v Speaker 2>from this article about it. Um, Nixon installed recorders throughout

0:19:08.170 --> 0:19:09.710
<v Speaker 2>the West Wing. I didn't know that. I thought it

0:19:09.730 --> 0:19:12.730
<v Speaker 2>was just in the Oval Office, but throughout. Nixon installed

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<v Speaker 2>recorders throughout the West Wing, including in the Oval Office,

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<v Speaker 2>which activated automatically at the sound of people's voices. Prior

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<v Speaker 2>to the Watergate scandal, the only people who knew about

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<v Speaker 2>these recorders were Nixon, his chief of staff, Bob Halderman.

0:19:25.390 --> 0:19:29.359
<v Speaker 2>Halderman's aides and the Secret Service. Nixon wanted everything taped

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<v Speaker 2>because he believed it would be the foundation for a

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<v Speaker 2>uniquely authoritative official history of the momentous presidency he envisioned.

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<v Speaker 2>And he believed these recordings would remain entirely private and

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<v Speaker 2>under his personal control. That was the idea, or at

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<v Speaker 2>least it's our best guess, since Nixon never definitively said

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<v Speaker 2>why he decided to start taping. once the tapes turned

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<v Speaker 2>on and the vents and all this and people were

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<v Speaker 2>able to get a hold of it and all that

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<v Speaker 2>sort of stuff but so he he never explained for

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<v Speaker 2>real for certain they're guessing why he decided to tape

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<v Speaker 2>everything that was happening but he did seem to think

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<v Speaker 2>he would always have control over it and only allow

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<v Speaker 2>out what's what he wanted.

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<v Speaker 3>To Yeah, he had a bit of a reputation for paranoia.

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<v Speaker 3>I always thought maybe that had something to do with

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<v Speaker 3>the tape thing, but I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe, though, there's no way you'd have had the

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<v Speaker 2>candid conversations he had unless you thought you were going

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<v Speaker 2>to control the tapes. Oh, yeah, clearly. So we're not

0:20:27.450 --> 0:20:31.900
<v Speaker 2>always flattering to him at all. No. No, and these

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<v Speaker 2>aren't either. Well, some of them are, some of them aren't.

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<v Speaker 2>As they point out here, it is going to show

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<v Speaker 2>a human being, not just a president, but it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the best look we have ever had and

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<v Speaker 2>ever will have of what it's like to be president

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<v Speaker 2>of the United States, because nothing like this is ever

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<v Speaker 2>going to happen again. The result is approximately 3,400 hours

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<v Speaker 2>of audio files that provide the most comprehensive behind-the-scenes documentation

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<v Speaker 2>of an American presidency there ever has been or ever

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<v Speaker 2>will be, as they say here. The problem was the

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<v Speaker 2>raw audio has been available, but only really available in

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<v Speaker 2>the most generous definition of the word. They're really hard

0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:12.300
<v Speaker 2>to listen to. They're hard to get access to. They're

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<v Speaker 2>hard to understand. And how are they doing it now?

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<v Speaker 2>With AI. They came up with an AI program that

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<v Speaker 2>can pick up the words, figure out what's being said.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they go back and listen to it to confirm

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<v Speaker 2>that it's accurate. And they're going to be releasing all

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<v Speaker 2>of these. And one of the things they talk about

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<v Speaker 2>is the, you know, I'm not sure every president's the same.

0:21:35.940 --> 0:21:37.639
<v Speaker 2>In fact, all human beings are not the same. So,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, they aren't. But the simultaneous nature of going

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<v Speaker 2>back and forth between conversations about domestic policy, your personal life,

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with the Soviet Union, back to taxes, back to

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<v Speaker 2>your daughter's wedding, back to throughout the day, which just

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<v Speaker 2>would make a normal person insane. Or age him like

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<v Speaker 2>a dog. Or age you like a dog.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds fascinating to me. I can't wait till it

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<v Speaker 2>actually comes out. And they talk about how people are

0:22:08.010 --> 0:22:10.510
<v Speaker 2>always looking for bombshells, and that's not the way to

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<v Speaker 2>look at it. The way to take it in is just, wow,

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<v Speaker 2>so this is what it's like in the Oval Office

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<v Speaker 2>in private or in the West Wing in private when

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<v Speaker 2>they're running the country and the world.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to think of the best way to present this,

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<v Speaker 3>and it would probably be in some sort of documentary form,

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<v Speaker 3>but there would have to be like hundreds of them,

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<v Speaker 3>and some guy would become famous for having watched them all.

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<v Speaker 3>But you would have some setup, then you'd have a

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<v Speaker 3>fair amount of audio, then you would have the context

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<v Speaker 3>and the significance of it, maybe a bit of a

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<v Speaker 3>history lesson, then back into the audio and back and

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<v Speaker 3>forth so you could really... I mean, it'd be like

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<v Speaker 3>a really, really well-annotated book.

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<v Speaker 2>But, I mean, the volume of it would be daunting.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me just read this part from the free press

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<v Speaker 2>because I thought it was interesting. Every White House of

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<v Speaker 2>every party in every era has operated behind a curtain

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<v Speaker 2>that even its own supporters cannot see through. Lyndon Johnson's

0:23:06.780 --> 0:23:08.919
<v Speaker 2>aides wrote of a president who bullied and charmed in

0:23:08.940 --> 0:23:11.480
<v Speaker 2>the same sentence. We take their word for it because

0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:14.959
<v Speaker 2>we largely have no choice. Ronald Reagan's diary entries are

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<v Speaker 2>a marvel of restraint precisely because he knew that someone

0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:21.710
<v Speaker 2>would eventually read them. Even the most candid memoirs are

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<v Speaker 2>acts of self-authorship, of course, composed by people who know

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<v Speaker 2>how the story ends and have every incentive to make

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<v Speaker 2>sure they come out of it looking like they knew

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<v Speaker 2>all along or look, you know, are in a favorable light.

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to point out that we do have

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<v Speaker 2>some audio of LBJ.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Not a great deal, but some. Nixon's tapes, which Michael

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<v Speaker 2>will be digging up right now. Nixon's tapes, by contrast,

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<v Speaker 2>capture a president who did not know he was writing

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<v Speaker 2>his own history. Who wasn't, in fact, actively trying not to.

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<v Speaker 2>I will not be transcribed. Nixon says in one of

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<v Speaker 2>the earliest tapes, oblivious to the irony that it was

0:23:59.080 --> 0:24:02.600
<v Speaker 2>his own ill-fated decision to tape everything that makes transcription possible.

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<v Speaker 2>But what a gift to historians. No kidding. Or just Americans.

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<v Speaker 2>You got a little LBJ here. This is from, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess they record all phone calls. So this was a

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<v Speaker 2>phone call.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's see if you can't leave me about it. An

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<v Speaker 4>age from where the zipper ends, back to my bunghole.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a shortened version of an order of a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of pairs of pants.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking to his tailor back in Texas.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think it was the original Mr. Hager of

0:24:32.900 --> 0:24:37.800
<v Speaker 3>the Hager Pants Company. explaining his needs for a little

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<v Speaker 3>extra room.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, in one of the tips, he says, right where

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<v Speaker 2>my nuts hang. Oh, boy, you could have left that out. Yes, sir, Mr. President.

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<v Speaker 3>Generally, we just refer to the crotch of the pants,

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<v Speaker 3>but thank you for that description.

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<v Speaker 2>He talks about wanting his pants to be a little

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<v Speaker 2>baggy so that he can have his keys in his

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<v Speaker 2>pocket and not get in the way with the boys.

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<v Speaker 4>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>But you got to enjoy the, well, play that again, Michael.

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<v Speaker 4>But see if you can't leave me about an inch

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<v Speaker 4>from where the zipper ends, around under my, back to

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<v Speaker 4>my bunghole.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, bunghole is obviously... It was a plain-spoken Texan. Obviously

0:25:16.220 --> 0:25:23.740
<v Speaker 2>a colorful expression, but the burp. Who does that? Who

0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:29.520
<v Speaker 2>does that, whether you're talking to an underling or... I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, a hobo in the street or a waiter

0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:35.060
<v Speaker 2>or anybody. Whoever does that. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>No effort to suppress it or anything. Not even the

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<v Speaker 3>slightest effort.

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<v Speaker 2>And no excuse me or anything. It's an old-style phone.

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<v Speaker 2>You can cup your hand over the thing. Turn your

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<v Speaker 2>head to the side or whatever.

0:25:47.460 --> 0:25:52.270
<v Speaker 3>He would famously have aides into the bathroom so he

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<v Speaker 3>could dictate to them whilst he pooped.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody wants that.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>One of my favorite stories, I love the LBJ books.

0:26:02.220 --> 0:26:04.540
<v Speaker 2>I've talked about it a million times, the Robert Caro series.

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<v Speaker 2>You talk about a glimpse into a presidency. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>best written biography of any president in our history by far.

0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:12.960
<v Speaker 2>And he's still working on the final volume to where

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait till it comes out. I hope Robert

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<v Speaker 2>Caro doesn't die before he gets out the final. He's

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<v Speaker 2>been in Vietnam now for years doing all the research

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<v Speaker 2>because it's all about the Vietnam War and everything. Oh, wow.

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<v Speaker 2>One of my favorite things, there's so many good things

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<v Speaker 2>in there about LBJ and his personality and how much

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<v Speaker 2>he and the Kennedys were just Men are from Mars,

0:26:31.609 --> 0:26:34.320
<v Speaker 2>women are from Venus. Doesn't even come close to Kennedy's

0:26:34.520 --> 0:26:39.699
<v Speaker 2>and DeJohnson's from Texas. And Bobby Kennedy hated LBJ so

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<v Speaker 2>much and blah, blah, blah. LBJ gave a prize bowl

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<v Speaker 2>to Jackie Kennedy and couldn't understand. He thought that would

0:26:54.130 --> 0:26:58.110
<v Speaker 2>really win her over. And couldn't understand why she wasn't, like,

0:26:58.170 --> 0:27:01.409
<v Speaker 2>happy with that. And he wasn't getting more, you know,

0:27:01.450 --> 0:27:05.360
<v Speaker 2>getting further with wooing her, impressing her. When he got

0:27:05.380 --> 0:27:08.179
<v Speaker 2>her this big, fat, slick, you know, bowl. It was

0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:13.420
<v Speaker 2>going to be such a good Kennedy's. The Kennedy's or

0:27:13.460 --> 0:27:18.380
<v Speaker 2>wherever they're from. They have no interest in it. What

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:23.090
<v Speaker 2>do we do with this bowl? Bobby, Bobby. I gave

0:27:23.109 --> 0:27:26.550
<v Speaker 2>her the best bowl in all of Texas, slick and fat,

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<v Speaker 2>and she doesn't seem to appreciate it at all. I know, sir.

0:27:29.410 --> 0:27:32.590
<v Speaker 3>How are we supposed to put this thing? I don't understand.

0:27:36.140 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 2>You look at Jackie Onassis and that's what you see?

0:27:38.660 --> 0:27:41.220
<v Speaker 2>Someone who'd really like a fat, slick bowl from Texas?

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:46.470
<v Speaker 2>A good-breeding bowl, yeah. Oh, God, that's funny. Yeah, that

0:27:46.490 --> 0:27:49.750
<v Speaker 2>is crazy. Claire, I'm back to my bong hole. Oh, boy,

0:27:49.810 --> 0:27:50.470
<v Speaker 2>again with that.

0:27:51.250 --> 0:27:54.710
<v Speaker 3>So speaking of a clash of cultures, so you go

0:27:54.820 --> 0:28:02.510
<v Speaker 3>and marry a transgender Bay Area New York Times computer guy,

0:28:03.440 --> 0:28:09.470
<v Speaker 3>and your elderly Chinese immigrant parents don't dig the union.

0:28:11.410 --> 0:28:13.490
<v Speaker 3>It could end badly. In fact, it could end very,

0:28:13.730 --> 0:28:18.100
<v Speaker 3>very badly. We're talking about that San Francisco Bay Area slaying.

0:28:18.910 --> 0:28:22.639
<v Speaker 3>And a couple of new details have emerged. Not a

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:24.620
<v Speaker 3>happy-in-law situation.

0:28:24.940 --> 0:28:27.419
<v Speaker 2>What a wild story. And him handing the gun to

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:29.480
<v Speaker 2>her is one of the best details. Yeah, we'll finish

0:28:29.540 --> 0:28:33.869
<v Speaker 2>strong with new details on that coming up next. Armstrong

0:28:34.010 --> 0:28:38.560
<v Speaker 2>and Getty. Lots of people don't get along with their in-laws,

0:28:38.580 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 2>but you don't expect them to gun you down like

0:28:40.500 --> 0:28:43.950
<v Speaker 2>Grandpa gunned you down and then hand the gun over

0:28:43.970 --> 0:28:45.630
<v Speaker 2>to Grandma so she can finish the job.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of those big sports complex parks in Dublin, California,

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<v Speaker 3>in the San Francisco Bay Area. It's a Saturday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 3>Guy's walking across the parking lot, and people hear shots

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<v Speaker 3>ring out, and an old Chinese fella, 77 years old,

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<v Speaker 3>squeezes several rounds into him. then hands the gun off

0:29:06.870 --> 0:29:10.850
<v Speaker 3>to the missus, who finishes the job. She is also

0:29:10.850 --> 0:29:14.550
<v Speaker 3>77 years old. And then they make no effort to flee,

0:29:14.610 --> 0:29:15.870
<v Speaker 3>and the cops come and arrest them.

0:29:16.970 --> 0:29:21.260
<v Speaker 2>It clearly was an on-purpose assassination, obviously.

0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we're going to sacrifice ourselves for, as it

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:28.720
<v Speaker 3>turns out, the daughter. They were the parents of a

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<v Speaker 3>woman who, name of Candace Jang, who is married to Mr.

0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:39.550
<v Speaker 3>Jonathan McKenzie, who started off most of his life as

0:29:39.610 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 3>a woman, then transitioned, as they say these days. She

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 3>filed for divorce in 2025 after he allegedly became abusive

0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:49.350
<v Speaker 3>to her and one of their young children, a boy.

0:29:49.540 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 2>At one point.

0:29:55.360 --> 0:30:01.620
<v Speaker 3>He had allegedly threatened the life of the mother of

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:06.030
<v Speaker 3>his wife. He'd made references to killing her and then

0:30:06.110 --> 0:30:09.750
<v Speaker 3>presented out of nowhere to his children the gift of

0:30:10.330 --> 0:30:15.410
<v Speaker 3>a book about children who lose their mother, whose mother dies.

0:30:15.430 --> 0:30:15.970
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

0:30:17.340 --> 0:30:20.070
<v Speaker 3>She said in the documents, Jonathan dismissed my concerns about

0:30:20.110 --> 0:30:22.030
<v Speaker 3>a book he provided to the children concerning the death

0:30:22.070 --> 0:30:23.870
<v Speaker 3>of a mother. He admits the context that made the

0:30:23.900 --> 0:30:26.729
<v Speaker 3>conduct frightening to me. He'd previously threatened to kill me

0:30:26.990 --> 0:30:28.230
<v Speaker 3>and my parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, as we were talking about earlier in the week,

0:30:31.430 --> 0:30:34.630
<v Speaker 2>and I assumed this was what's going on, whether we

0:30:34.670 --> 0:30:36.650
<v Speaker 2>don't know what's true and what's not, but clearly the

0:30:36.710 --> 0:30:42.050
<v Speaker 2>grandparents believed that he was a threat to their grandchild

0:30:42.470 --> 0:30:42.950
<v Speaker 2>and daughter.

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<v Speaker 3>To the extent that they said our final days on

0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:47.940
<v Speaker 3>earth are going to be in prison, we get that,

0:30:47.980 --> 0:30:48.980
<v Speaker 3>but we're going to do this.

0:30:49.260 --> 0:30:51.380
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because we can't count on the justice system to

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:52.060
<v Speaker 2>keep her safe.

0:30:52.660 --> 0:30:54.570
<v Speaker 3>Which, again, doesn't prove the truth of anything, but it

0:30:54.610 --> 0:30:57.390
<v Speaker 3>certainly proves their belief in the truth of everything.

0:30:58.030 --> 0:31:01.910
<v Speaker 2>And, again, she said in the documents... And I could

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<v Speaker 2>see myself doing the same thing, by the way.

0:31:04.510 --> 0:31:08.030
<v Speaker 3>Given the prior threats against my life, I found the

0:31:08.090 --> 0:31:10.610
<v Speaker 3>choice deeply disturbing and frightening.

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah.

0:31:12.220 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's a sick effing thing to do. Hey, kids,

0:31:16.860 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 3>here's your birthday present. It's about some kids who lose

0:31:19.300 --> 0:31:19.780
<v Speaker 3>their mother.

0:31:20.980 --> 0:31:22.490
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:31:22.590 --> 0:31:25.150
<v Speaker 3>And so mom and dad decided, no, that's not going

0:31:25.170 --> 0:31:28.090
<v Speaker 3>to happen. They were in the midst of a nasty

0:31:28.130 --> 0:31:31.370
<v Speaker 3>custody battle. He was accused of abusing Jang and their

0:31:31.390 --> 0:31:32.490
<v Speaker 3>three children, etc., etc.

0:31:32.670 --> 0:31:35.690
<v Speaker 2>Which means she could have been making it all up?

0:31:37.550 --> 0:31:39.930
<v Speaker 3>He was once charged with two counts of misdemeanor child

0:31:39.970 --> 0:31:42.470
<v Speaker 3>abuse for an incident where he went upside the child's

0:31:42.820 --> 0:31:44.920
<v Speaker 3>head with an open hand, I guess, according to one

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 3>of the legal papers.

0:31:46.660 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was ugly. Very, very ugly.

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they'll get full-on first-degree murder, right? Premeditated?

0:32:01.800 --> 0:32:02.180
<v Speaker 4>Oh, yeah.

0:32:02.900 --> 0:32:03.100
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:32:04.360 --> 0:32:05.640
<v Speaker 2>So they'll be in prison the rest of their lives,

0:32:05.680 --> 0:32:08.710
<v Speaker 2>both of them. Because they're all almost 80 already. They'll

0:32:08.730 --> 0:32:11.970
<v Speaker 2>die in prison, yeah. They'll probably plead guilty. And apart, probably.

0:32:12.270 --> 0:32:13.010
<v Speaker 2>Not together. I would guess.

0:32:13.130 --> 0:32:13.370
<v Speaker 3>Oh, yeah.

0:32:13.590 --> 0:32:18.950
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's rough. Of course, they were maybe

0:32:19.070 --> 0:32:20.230
<v Speaker 2>in a really rough situation.

0:32:22.930 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 3>They might be crazy. They might be mean. They might

0:32:28.820 --> 0:32:31.300
<v Speaker 3>be bad parents. They might be a hundred things. But

0:32:31.340 --> 0:32:36.290
<v Speaker 3>they believed that this had to be done, clearly. The

0:32:36.310 --> 0:32:38.870
<v Speaker 3>40-year-old victim had joined the New York Times a couple

0:32:38.890 --> 0:32:41.110
<v Speaker 3>of years ago as a senior engineering manager for the

0:32:41.230 --> 0:32:45.450
<v Speaker 3>games platform, became director of engineering for games player experiences

0:32:45.490 --> 0:32:48.469
<v Speaker 3>in late 2025. My wife and I are obsessive New

0:32:48.490 --> 0:32:50.110
<v Speaker 3>York Times games players.

0:32:50.470 --> 0:32:51.230
<v Speaker 4>Right.

0:32:51.250 --> 0:32:53.730
<v Speaker 2>So we knew this guy's work, oddly enough. Well, and

0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 2>I've read a number of articles about how that's what

0:32:57.020 --> 0:32:58.780
<v Speaker 2>saved the New York Times. That's what separates the New

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 2>York Times from so many newspapers that haven't been able

0:33:02.380 --> 0:33:07.130
<v Speaker 2>to make it, is their games. that people subscribe to. Like,

0:33:07.210 --> 0:33:10.170
<v Speaker 2>Wordle may have saved one of the most important newspapers

0:33:10.390 --> 0:33:10.770
<v Speaker 2>on Earth.

0:33:11.650 --> 0:33:13.620
<v Speaker 3>Right, right. And now they've got a bunch of games

0:33:13.630 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 3>that are really, really fun and test your brain and

0:33:15.940 --> 0:33:16.400
<v Speaker 3>that sort of thing.

0:33:16.440 --> 0:33:16.980
<v Speaker 2>I'm a big fan.

0:33:17.000 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 3>It's good for your brain, especially as you age. Anyway,

0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:21.640
<v Speaker 3>how much time do we have, Michael? Just a couple

0:33:21.660 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 3>of minutes?

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 2>No, about 30 seconds here. Here's a political story for you.

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<v Speaker 3>At a Wednesday announcement at the Oval Office, President Trump

0:33:28.330 --> 0:33:31.770
<v Speaker 3>and the Commerce Secretary, Howard Lutnick, announced with top Alaskan

0:33:31.790 --> 0:33:35.020
<v Speaker 3>officials that that South Korea was going to invest $ 50

0:33:34.920 --> 0:33:38.060
<v Speaker 3>billion in Alaska in a liquefied natural gas pipeline.

0:33:38.820 --> 0:33:41.300
<v Speaker 2>The South Koreans woke up and said, wait, what? We

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:44.660
<v Speaker 2>didn't agree to that. We're in talks. Wait, wait, what?

0:33:45.740 --> 0:33:46.180
<v Speaker 3>Oh, boy.

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 4>Oh, boy.

0:33:47.260 --> 0:33:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh, boy. We've now entered Final Thoughts with your host,

0:33:55.220 --> 0:34:00.310
<v Speaker 2>Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Very new agey. Have some

0:34:00.370 --> 0:34:03.050
<v Speaker 2>breaking economic news I'll use for my final thought. Here's

0:34:03.090 --> 0:34:04.830
<v Speaker 2>your host for Final Thoughts, Joe Getty.

0:34:05.470 --> 0:34:07.140
<v Speaker 3>Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:08.940
<v Speaker 3>to wrap things up for the day. There he is,

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:11.819
<v Speaker 3>pressing the button, our technical director, Michelangelo. Michel, what's your

0:34:11.840 --> 0:34:12.259
<v Speaker 3>final thought?

0:34:12.320 --> 0:34:15.509
<v Speaker 2>We were talking about executions earlier and different methods. What

0:34:15.530 --> 0:34:19.730
<v Speaker 2>about smothering somebody with a pillow? Yeah. Well, there are

0:34:19.770 --> 0:34:21.250
<v Speaker 2>a lot of ways. God knows.

0:34:21.730 --> 0:34:24.549
<v Speaker 3>Katie Green, our esteemed newswoman, has a final thought.

0:34:24.570 --> 0:34:24.870
<v Speaker 2>Katie?

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<v Speaker 5>The whole execution thing, I don't understand why they couldn't

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:32.040
<v Speaker 5>just keep the curtain closed and not have this be

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:32.500
<v Speaker 5>a story.

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Have somebody move in and just finish the job.

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:43.339
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Like with a rock? Sure. Use your imagination, which

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:46.930
<v Speaker 2>you clearly have. With a rock? Jack, a final thought?

0:34:48.090 --> 0:34:50.810
<v Speaker 2>If affordability is going to be the main driver of

0:34:50.830 --> 0:34:53.270
<v Speaker 2>the results of the midterm elections, and it is going

0:34:53.310 --> 0:34:57.580
<v Speaker 2>to be, breaking news, the average 30-year fixed rate mortgage

0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:00.839
<v Speaker 2>made its biggest weekly jump in four years. So that

0:35:00.900 --> 0:35:05.760
<v Speaker 2>goes back to 2022, 7.28%. I didn't help.

0:35:06.270 --> 0:35:08.910
<v Speaker 3>The president says the affordability thing is a hoax and

0:35:08.930 --> 0:35:10.070
<v Speaker 3>that the economy is great.

0:35:10.330 --> 0:35:11.209
<v Speaker 2>It is great.

0:35:11.350 --> 0:35:14.850
<v Speaker 3>It might be the most severe case of political malpractice

0:35:14.890 --> 0:35:18.129
<v Speaker 3>I've ever seen in my life and is eclipsing all

0:35:18.170 --> 0:35:23.140
<v Speaker 3>the great stuff, the great stuff the Trump administration has done.

0:35:23.980 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 2>That's two presidents in a row shooting themselves in the

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:31.020
<v Speaker 2>foot by claiming that inflation isn't a problem.

0:35:31.710 --> 0:35:34.510
<v Speaker 3>Ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears and credit card.

0:35:34.710 --> 0:35:37.189
<v Speaker 2>Everything's fine. That's never going to work. Armstrong and Getty

0:35:37.210 --> 0:35:39.150
<v Speaker 2>wrapping up another grueling four-hour workday.

0:35:39.190 --> 0:35:41.469
<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's so frustrating. So many people who think so

0:35:41.510 --> 0:35:44.290
<v Speaker 3>little time go to armstrongandgetty.com. You can pick up some

0:35:44.310 --> 0:35:47.029
<v Speaker 3>A &amp; G swag. I'm telling you, the communism and

0:35:47.110 --> 0:35:50.620
<v Speaker 3>or socialism sucks and it never works T-shirts are flying

0:35:50.660 --> 0:35:51.220
<v Speaker 3>off the shelves.

0:35:51.260 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm so proud of mine. Get yourself one, armstrongandgetty.com. See

0:35:54.180 --> 0:35:55.760
<v Speaker 2>you tomorrow. God bless America.

0:35:58.219 --> 0:36:01.600
<v Speaker 3>Michael always ruins this by guessing an astronomically high number

0:36:01.620 --> 0:36:02.060
<v Speaker 3>to ruin it.

0:36:02.060 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 2>That's Michael's thing.

0:36:02.940 --> 0:36:06.820
<v Speaker 3>All right. How many active duty, not retired, active duty

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:10.740
<v Speaker 3>generals and admirals are there, Michael?

0:36:10.739 --> 0:36:11.899
<v Speaker 1>20,000.

0:36:11.900 --> 0:36:24.140
<v Speaker 2>Oh, my God. He did it again. Did I go

0:36:24.180 --> 0:36:26.739
<v Speaker 2>too low? Armstrong and Getty.