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Speaker 1: This one, Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. Oh right,

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Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday, everybody. Chris Brown, Steve task me with you.

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Speaker 1: The fifty three man roster is set for now. Probably

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Speaker 1: some tweaks to come in the coming days. We'll see

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Speaker 1: what those are. But for now, the fifty three man

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Speaker 2: Holding it in my hand, and I was informed that

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Speaker 2: at four o'clock this one and I've got right now

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Speaker 2: the official tech thinklely official roster is going to be

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Speaker 2: obsoleted about four o'clock.

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Speaker 1: By four o'clock, the Bill's practice squad will also be assembled.

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Speaker 1: Practice squad assemble sixteen players, six of whom can be

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Speaker 1: veteran players of any number of accrued seasons. The ten

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Speaker 1: other practice squad members can have no more than two

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Speaker 1: accrued seasons on their professional resume, So generally younger players

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Speaker 1: on the whole, on that side of the Ledger and

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Speaker 1: I think we should, Steve probably anticipate a good number

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Speaker 1: of the players released yesterday to be on the practice

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Speaker 1: squad today. I've been checking the waiver wire all day,

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Speaker 1: haven't really seen any Bills players' names come up, nor

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Speaker 1: have I seen any of the veterans released signed by

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Speaker 1: another team. So at this point in time, it looks

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Speaker 1: like any and all options are on the table among

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Speaker 1: the players that they really yesterday to add to their

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Speaker 2: If they want to do that, right, it's just going

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Speaker 2: to be a question. We kind of get bored with

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Speaker 2: it because the season takes over, but this it goes

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Speaker 2: on all year. The practice squad is fluid. They they're

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Speaker 2: churning guys through there every week. It's more, I don't know,

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Speaker 2: it's more noteworthy now because we know these guys right

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Speaker 2: we're getting guys on the practice hall we've never heard

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Speaker 2: of and have never taken a snap for the team.

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Speaker 2: These guys have all been here for months exactly.

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Speaker 1: The team did practice this morning. The fifty three players

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Speaker 1: that are on the roster, at least most of those

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Speaker 2: Place look vacant.

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Speaker 1: Good news, well in comparison to ninety Yeah, it looks

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Speaker 1: like half the people are missing. But the good news

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Speaker 1: on the injury front, Connor McGovern got back out there,

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Speaker 1: looks to be limited as a participant as he's working

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Speaker 1: his way back from the knee injury. He suffered in

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh preseason game that kept them out of the

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Speaker 1: preseason finale against the Bears. And then we also saw

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Speaker 1: Terrell Bernard back on the practice field, also moving around cautiously,

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Speaker 1: so I wouldn't be surprised if he was limited in practice.

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Speaker 1: We're at the point in time in the preseason where

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Speaker 1: practice is now limited in terms of media viewing to

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Speaker 1: the duration of practice, so our exposure to just how

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Speaker 1: much those players coming back from injury are doing is limited.

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Speaker 1: But just kind of looking at them their body language

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Speaker 1: go for full scale practice, playing in games, et cetera,

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Speaker 1: twelve days between now in the opener, so plenty of

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Speaker 1: Baylen Spector, two players each dealing with hamstring injuries, and

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Speaker 1: this brings up Steve some of that roster tweaking that

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Speaker 1: we anticipate. Number One, we know Reed Ferguson, the long

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Speaker 1: snapper for the Bills, was cut yesterday. It's a roster

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Speaker 1: juggling exercise. They cut him to carry a player on

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Speaker 1: the initial fifty three man roster who may be given

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Speaker 1: an injury designation as early as today to allow the

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Speaker 1: team to bring Reid Ferguson back onto the roster. Bayle

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Speaker 1: So it's a roster juggling exercise here, and I think

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Speaker 1: including from NFL Network seeing in Rapaport, that the Bills

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Speaker 1: will be signing veteran offensive tackle Jermaine Affetti, who is

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Speaker 1: a former first round pick of the Seattle Seahawks back

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Speaker 1: in twenty and I mean, the guy's got plenty of

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Speaker 1: in his career eighty two starts on his NFL resume.

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Speaker 1: Spent the twenty twenty two season with the Atlanta Falcons.

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Speaker 1: He was not a starter there, he was a backup

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Speaker 1: and I would anticipate he would be serving in the

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Speaker 1: same capacity here, especially after the release of David Questenberry yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Right, and plus you know two weeks you're talking about

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Speaker 2: guys who have been running this offense, some of the

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Speaker 2: They just want the guy to be passable. Get him

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Speaker 2: up to game speed. He's in shape, he's been in

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Speaker 2: training camp. But get him acclimated to your verbiage, get

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Speaker 2: him acclimated to your offensive line, room blocking techniques. An

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Speaker 2: outside chance that he would be ready to go or

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Speaker 2: night on a Monday night in New York. But that's

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Speaker 2: what happens when you get to this point. He goes

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Speaker 2: put him on the practice squad. I don't think, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is not one of those moves. Right He's got

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Speaker 1: And as of right now, the Bill's roster has only

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Speaker 1: three true offensive tackles. It's basically Dion Dawkins, Spencer Brown,

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Speaker 1: and Ryan Vandermark. Now, I would say Vandermark by virtue

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Speaker 1: made good progress not only from last year to this year,

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Speaker 1: for to say, you know what, he is ready to

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Speaker 1: be the swing tackle. And that's why David Quessenberry did

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Speaker 2: If they talked him into it. I don't know, he

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Speaker 2: may want to do that. Yeah, most of these guys

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Speaker 1: If you want to see if he can sign on

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Speaker 2: Somewhere else, because there'll be some demand for him in

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Speaker 2: today's market and offensive line, and he may end up

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Speaker 2: practice squad, you're not making the money you're making on

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Speaker 2: their active roster, and that may be a consideration for him.

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Speaker 1: Jermaine Affetti effectively again boosts the size and height quotient

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Speaker 1: of Buffalo's offensive line six ' five, three hundred and

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Speaker 2: You talk about Vandermark and how he came in and

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Speaker 2: just he came from like nowhere to the swing tackle. Now,

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Speaker 2: certainly Brandon Schell's retirement aided in that, yes, and in whatever,

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Speaker 2: Kingsley Jonathan's upside is still I think being realized because

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Speaker 2: he's played like five years of football and he's not

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Speaker 2: been playing since he's five years old. His upside is huge.

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Speaker 1: It didn't start playing until high school.

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Speaker 2: And also, you know, so he doesn't have any baggage

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Speaker 2: the way he rushes the passer and the things he does.

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Speaker 2: He is all about technique. He's got the right leverage,

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Speaker 2: he plays the right way, plays hard, he uses different techniques.

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Speaker 2: He's got a nice repertoire that's still growing, and his

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Speaker 2: see that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Hi, It's high level stuff.

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Speaker 1: For a player who is very young in football.

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Speaker 2: To me, he's the poster child for what it's like

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Speaker 2: to have a von Miller parachute into your roster and

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Speaker 2: have a young guy who doesn't know enough learn everything

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Speaker 2: he can learn from a guy who's done it. That's

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Speaker 2: those two guys, Vandermark and Kingsley Jonathan I think are

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Speaker 2: I think they're the most surprising guys on the entire roster.

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Speaker 1: I wrote about this on Buffalo bills dot com yesterday

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Speaker 1: after all the announcements were made. Five things to know

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Speaker 1: about the Bills fifty three man roster. You've got practice

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Speaker 1: squad graduates on this roster now, Ryan Vandermark, Kingsley Jonathan

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Speaker 1: and Alec Anderson another offensive lineman. They were all on

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's practice squad last year, and I'll bang the drum

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Speaker 1: again Steve Player development, Eric Washington the defensive line coach,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Cromer the offensive line coach. They worked with these

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Speaker 1: and it was enough to earn a roster spot this season.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Ryan Bates is probably your backup center.

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Speaker 1: Alec Anderson is probably your third center on this roster

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Speaker 1: right now, and probably your number two backup guard after

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Speaker 1: David Edwards. So David Edwards is probably your number one

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Speaker 1: Alec Anderson is is basically your next guard in you know, right.

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Speaker 2: I think if Conor McDermott or Connor McGovern comes in

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Speaker 2: think they will. He's already out there practicing, even even.

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Speaker 1: Though he doesn't look at.

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Speaker 2: David Edwards is in. Alec Anderson is the guy right

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Speaker 2: behind him, and Bates is over there, is right behind

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Speaker 2: there with him, and they behind They played behind Torrance

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Speaker 2: and David Edwards and Morse and Morse and that's man,

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Speaker 2: you're I like that. I like that offensive line. I

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Speaker 2: really do we have. I know, people have been clutching

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Speaker 2: their pearls a little bit in the preseason and they

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Speaker 2: take a lot. They took a lot of heat last year.

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Speaker 2: They I mean, people say the craziest things, but this

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Speaker 2: offensive line was not a bottom five offensive line. You

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Speaker 2: hear people saying the crazy stuff. This offensive line was

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Speaker 2: the offensive line for the number two offense in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: They they were not bad at all. They were really good.

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Speaker 1: I would lean towards Wilson Steve I thought he outperformed,

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Speaker 1: Has been on the practice squad the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: I like the season. I like the preseason that Kendall

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Speaker 1: There were also a couple of draft choices who did

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Speaker 1: know that Brandon Bean, the general manager, is scheduled to

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Speaker 1: You know, the fire's already burning.

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Speaker 2: Right, They've got to stomp on the brakes to keep

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Speaker 1: If you remember after Cam Danzler had an injury and

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Speaker 1: Let's quickly go around the NFL, presented by Kalida Health,

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Speaker 1: the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills, because there

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Speaker 1: Colts were saying they would not trade him unless they

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Speaker 1: were offered a first round draft choice in return. I

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Speaker 1: think if that was what they were going to stick by,

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Speaker 1: there was no way they were getting that kind of

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Speaker 1: compensation for the running back as productive as he's been

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Speaker 1: and being only twenty four years old. It still wasn't

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Speaker 1: going to mean a hill of beans to a bunch

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Speaker 1: of teams that knew, hey, this guy might not be

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Speaker 1: ready for the first month of the season. Why am

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Speaker 1: I giving up a first round pick for a guy

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Speaker 1: I'm only going to have for twelve thirteen games. So

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Speaker 1: I think that was a bit of the fly in

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Speaker 1: the ointment. We're also hearing that the Colts were asking

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Speaker 1: for the moon from the Miami Dolphins in trade negotiations.

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Speaker 1: They wanted Jalen Waddle in return for Jonathan Taylor, and

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Speaker 1: that's that effectively ended their negotiation talks with the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: We also found out who the second mystery team was.

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Speaker 1: ESPN's Stephen Holder, who we've had on this show and

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Speaker 1: covers the Colts Free. ESPN basically found out through his

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Speaker 1: sources that the second team interested in Jonathan Taylor were

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Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packer Steve, which is interesting considering they

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Speaker 1: have Aaron Jones and they have AJ Dillon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, interesting because what, yeah, they don't What, No, you're

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Speaker 2: not gonna pay that You're gonna give a first round

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Speaker 2: for Jonathan Taylor when you got those two guys and

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Speaker 2: then pay him put him to a new contract.

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Speaker 1: With that's I don't know what they were doing.

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Speaker 2: There was nothing going on there that that's that was

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Speaker 2: somebody from the packers call and say what about it?

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Speaker 1: And there was a there was a cursory phoonk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was at first. What's going on over there? Oh,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna trade him? Okay, thanks, take first round pick.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to do that. Thanks? And what were

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Speaker 2: you offering him to begin with for a contract that

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Speaker 2: he refused? He refused it. I'm we're out.

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Speaker 1: Thanks.

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Speaker 2: That's that's that. That's got to be the extent of

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Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers' interest.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps the Patriots fans yesterday were ready to jump off

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Speaker 1: into the Charles River yesterday after learning that the Patriots

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Speaker 1: cut both of their backup quarterbacks, Bailey Zappi and Malik Cunningham,

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Speaker 1: and people on talk radio up there in New England

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Speaker 1: were losing their minds because the only quarterback on the

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Speaker 1: roster was Mac Jones.

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Speaker 2: Those Patriots.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots played their odds and the odds were in

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Speaker 1: their favor because they had The reports are that Bailey

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Speaker 1: Zappy and Malie Cunningham have gone unclaimed and will revert

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Speaker 1: and be signed to the Patriots practice squad both of them.

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Speaker 1: So the practice squad. As bad as Patriots fans felt yesterday,

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Speaker 1: you might feel worse to because there were thirty one

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Speaker 1: other teams who said, yeah, you know what, we're good,

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Speaker 1: don't need either of those quarterbacks. We're good, you could

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Speaker 1: have them. And so now the Patriots are gonna sign

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Speaker 1: both of those guys to their practice squad and pay

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Speaker 1: them significantly less money.

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Speaker 2: So the interesting part is, if I'm a.

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Speaker 1: Patriots fan, I'm even more worried.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: Holy cow, thirty one other teams don't want those guys,

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Speaker 1: and there are backups to mac Jones, so that's.

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Speaker 2: Where they are. I think you would think, like, who

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Speaker 2: wouldn't that Like wouldn't the Eagle, Like the Eagles open

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Speaker 2: up with the Patriots at home? Wouldn't you like the

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Speaker 2: Eagles like, Hey, you want to come be on our

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Speaker 2: practice squad, we'll give you know. Or you think the Dolphins, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: or the Dolphins in Week two pick up Bailey z Appy.

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Speaker 1: I don't think people feel they need inside intel to

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Speaker 1: beat the Patriots these days.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, well, nobody knows that much about what's

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Speaker 2: going on over there. But still the same The point

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Speaker 2: is they have stunk so bad in the preseason. The

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Speaker 2: backup quarterbacks the Patriots knew nobody wanted them. Nevertheless, they're

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Speaker 2: signing them back now. They're not gonna sign them back

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Speaker 2: to the They'll sign them back to the fifty three.

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Speaker 2: Right one of them.

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Speaker 1: They said, it looks like they're both gonna Why would

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Speaker 1: you cut up.

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Speaker 2: Then, Well, because they wanted somebody else to be on

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Speaker 2: the fifty three for the day. They gotta have a

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Speaker 2: backup quarterback on week one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can do the practice squad elevation though, I

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Speaker 1: mean that is an option. You could do it three times,

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Speaker 1: with up to three times for a player and then

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Speaker 1: just revert right back to the practice squad without going

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Speaker 1: through waivers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Whatever, we know that they do stuff different up there.

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Speaker 1: It used to be called ingenious move by Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 1: Now not so much. That looks Craig cray Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: does look a little Craig cray on it.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Some notable waiver claims thus far today, because the waiver

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Speaker 1: claim window basically closed or opened at noon to announce

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Speaker 1: waiver claims. Kansas City Chiefs claimed defensive back Darius rush

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Speaker 1: On waivers from the Colts. I believe he was the

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Speaker 1: guy who had the interception here in Week one of

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Speaker 1: the preseason against the Bills, so he got claimed by

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Chargers claimed linebacker Tanner Muse on waivers from

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. He's a special teams guy, so Chargers look

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Speaker 1: to augment their special teams with his acquisition. Titans claimed

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Speaker 1: defensive back Kendall Vildor on waivers from the Bears. He

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Speaker 1: was like running third string with Chicago. He's just a

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Speaker 1: depth piece for the Titans, we hope anyway. And the

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Speaker 1: Browns claimed defensive back kalf Hylassie on waivers from the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: So those are some of the more notable ones that

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Speaker 1: have taken place so far. We also saw that the

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Speaker 1: former first round pick Alex Leatherwood, who the Bills played

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Speaker 1: last week with the Bears. He got cut by the

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Speaker 1: Bears yesterday. He's signing with the Browns practice squad. And

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Speaker 1: then Tyree Jackson Steve remember that name, former UB player

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Speaker 1: who played quarterback and then transition to tight end in

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Speaker 1: the league. He was with the Eagles, got cut. He's

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Speaker 1: signing with the Giants practice squad. So those are just

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Speaker 1: some of the more notable transactions going on around out there.

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Speaker 1: We do want to get to the topic of the

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Speaker 1: day for you at eight oh three oh five point

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Speaker 1: fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two, five point fifty.

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Speaker 1: Now with the initial fifty three man roster set, which

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Speaker 1: position group do you believe to be the strongest on

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Speaker 1: this year's Bill's roster to start the season? Eight oh

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Speaker 1: three oh five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two,

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Speaker 1: five fifty the numbers to join us here on the show,

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Speaker 1: and we do have open lines for you, or if

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Speaker 1: you can't make a phone call, you can hit us

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Speaker 1: up on the tweet sheet at One Bill's Lot. We

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Speaker 1: will take a break here, but more of your phone calls.

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Speaker 1: We also have Greg Cosell coming up in the second hour.

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Speaker 1: He's going to break down the roster with us now

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Speaker 1: that the Bill's fifty three is initially set. And we

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Speaker 1: also hope to here from Kingsley Jonathan who addressed the

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Speaker 1: media after practice one of the field. Good stories of

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Speaker 1: the Bill's fifty three man roster. All coming your way

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Speaker 1: here on a Wednesday edition of One Bill's Live. Stay tuned,

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Speaker 1: all right, welcome back to One Bill's Live. Well, you

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Speaker 1: know I talk about Nick Broker and Alex Austin as

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Speaker 1: we turn around, and they got claimed don waivers by

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Speaker 1: the Houston Texans to their active roster. So Alex Austin

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Speaker 1: and Nick Broker, two of the Bill's seventh round draft

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Speaker 1: choices now Houston Texans. The Minnesota Vikings also reportedly have

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Speaker 1: signed veteran David Quessenberry. He was a veteran player, so

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Speaker 1: he's essentially a free agent, so he's going to join

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Speaker 1: the Vikings as an offensive lineman there. And then we're

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Speaker 1: hearing that Zane Anderson has been claimed by the Green

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Speaker 1: Bay Packers special teams guy played safety, was buried behind

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Speaker 1: a deep safety group here, there was no chance of

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Speaker 1: him making the roster. The good news is we are

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Speaker 1: hearing reports that Andy Isabella will be signed to Buffalo's

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Speaker 1: practice squad. He reportedly had other offers elsewhere but felt

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Speaker 1: this was a good spot for him, and all indications

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Speaker 1: are he will be on Buffalo's practice squad. Obviously, nothing

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Speaker 1: will be coming from the team officially until later this afternoon,

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Speaker 1: so that is the latest update at least as of

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Speaker 1: right now. If we have more, we will pass him

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Speaker 1: along to you. Through the course of today's show, but

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Speaker 1: we are asking you at AIGHTO three oh five point

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Speaker 1: fifty one eight eight eight, five fifty two, five point

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Speaker 1: fifty with the initial fifty three man rosters set, which

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Speaker 1: position group do you feel is the strongest on this

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Speaker 1: year's team to start the season. AIGHTO three oh five

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Speaker 1: point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: Got some open lines for you to join us, or

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Speaker 1: you can hit us up on the tweetsheet at one

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live. But let's go to the phones. Leading us

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Speaker 1: off today is Ron in Lackawana. What do you got

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Speaker 1: for us? Ron?

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Speaker 3: You're on one Bill's Live afternoon guys, great show, all

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Speaker 3: the time.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, Okay, the cornerback spots I think is

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Speaker 3: very strong. I know we worked on that offensive defensive line,

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Speaker 3: so I'm not gonna go there. I like the running

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Speaker 3: back room. And I've got another question for you. I'm

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Speaker 3: not crazy by Kyle Ellen as our backup quarterback. Do

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Speaker 3: you think you see do you see anything there out

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Speaker 3: there in a waiver wearer that you like? I like

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Speaker 3: to kid the Veto that was playing for the Giants

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Speaker 3: in preseason. I'm gonna hang up when I listened to

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Speaker 3: you guys, Okay, bye, you bet.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Ron, Thanks Ron.

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Speaker 2: I did not see anybody play for the Giants, Tommy DeVito,

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Speaker 2: Tommy DeVito, I didn't see any of that. I'm not yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm not sweating the backup quarterback for the Bills.

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Speaker 1: I think Kyle Allen demonstrated some progress in the Chicago game.

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Speaker 1: I thought his best throw of the preseason. My broadcast

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Speaker 1: partner Harry Wood said it after it happened. Best throw

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Speaker 1: of the preseason was the twenty nine yard dart down

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Speaker 1: the scene to Quin Morris for the touchdown against Chicago

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Speaker 1: last week. I felt as though there were signs that

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Speaker 1: it's coming together for him, and I think he'll get there.

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Speaker 1: So I'm okay with Kyle Allen. I really am. I

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Speaker 1: know he didn't set the world on fire early in

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Speaker 1: the preseason, but I thought he made progress as the

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Speaker 1: preseason went on. Well, I'll say this too.

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Speaker 2: He got started. He got off to a bad start,

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Speaker 2: particularly for the fans, when he threw an interception for

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Speaker 2: a touchdown against the Colts. But he actually the throw

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Speaker 2: was great. It went off the hands of Shavers and

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Speaker 2: tipped right into the hands of a defender sprinting the

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Speaker 2: other direction. I mean, he couldn't have been worse luck

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Speaker 2: for him, and he got crushed for it. But he

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Speaker 2: made a great throw and a right decision and all that.

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Speaker 2: So you know, and in Chicago, I thought he played

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Speaker 2: much better and he got extended time. In Chicago. He's

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Speaker 2: got a live arm and to throw down the seam

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Speaker 2: to to win Morris was really nice throw. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm like I said, I'll say it again. His job

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Speaker 2: isn't to play. His job is to make Josh play

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Speaker 2: better in the meetings, on the sidelines, off the field,

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Speaker 2: in game day, between series, help Josh play better. That's

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Speaker 2: his job. I don't care if he can take a snap.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go back to the phones and to Rick

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Speaker 1: in Rochester. What do you got for us? Rick?

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Speaker 6: Well, this year, I think because of the new rules,

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Speaker 6: there's gonna be a lot more big plays, you know,

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Speaker 6: kickoff returns than expect it because I think people are

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Speaker 6: just gonna think they're gonna fear catch it and they're

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Speaker 6: not gonna just gonna take off with him. Because we

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Speaker 6: don't have many special team players. I'm talking about in

651
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 6: the whole NFL, not just Buffalo I think there's gonna

652
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 6: be more returns than ever. What do you think about that.

653
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if I one hundred percent agree with you, Rick,

654
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you why, and thanks for the phone call.

655
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: I think a lot of these teams in the preseason

656
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: kept their plans for the kickoff close to the vest.

657
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: Didn't really reveal much, but we got to peek at

658
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: it late in the game against Chicago last week. Cairo

659
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: Santos sends a line drive about eight feet off the

660
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: ground the whole way down the field out of the

661
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: back of the end zone. There was no way, I

662
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: think it was Darrenton Evans at the time to get

663
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: over to that side of the field fast enough to

664
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: even field the ball right. And I think as long

665
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: as you have a kicker that can prove to you

666
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: that he can line drive that thing straight through the

667
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: back of the end zone without any risk of it

668
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: going out of bounds, I think you're going to see

669
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: a good deal of that, especially for teams that feel

670
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: they might be lacking a little bit in the return

671
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: game and don't want to even give the returner an

672
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: opportunity to field it, or if they're going against a

673
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: very dangerous return man, because if you pop it up

674
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: and hang it high to a dangerous return man, sure

675
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: he could fare catch it and get it to twenty five,

676
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: but if he's worth his salt, he's probably gonna try

677
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: to bring it back against you. And you don't want

678
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: to put your cover team in that spot. So if

679
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: you can just line drive it through the end zone,

680
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: you might choose to go that way or just skip

681
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: it off the ground, and that's gonna be harder to return.

682
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,240
Speaker 2: Also, simple fact of matters. We don't know what's gonna happen,

683
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 2: and I don't because I know what we saw in

684
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: the preseason is not what's gonna happen in the regular season.

685
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 2: They're not gonna kick it like normal down the middle high,

686
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: let the guy return it. That was all to evaluate

687
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: their own kick cover guys. They didn't, That's what it

688
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: was all about. They That is not game strategy. That

689
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,439
Speaker 2: is roster management strategy. I don't know what it's gonna

690
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 2: look like on opening day and the kickoff when teams

691
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 2: aren't gonna want to give people the twenty five. They're

692
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: gonna take a chance and one hop it down there,

693
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: or they're gonna get if the ball lands and hops

694
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: and on the ground once you can't fair catch it

695
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 2: after that, so they're not going to let them fair

696
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 2: catch that. Yeah, they want to get the ball. The

697
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: idea is to kick it, and this is elementary. I'm

698
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 2: sure I'm talking to some people in the rolling their eyes.

699
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 2: The ball needs to take as long as possible for

700
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: the return team to field it. That's why you kick

701
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: the thing a mile high, but in the field of play,

702
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 2: so that it gives your guys a chance to run

703
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 2: further down the field to tackle him sooner. That's what

704
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 2: they want. But now they're not gonna be able to

705
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: kick it high because the guy just fair catch. You

706
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: get it on the twenty five. Whenever the Bill's got

707
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 2: a chance to cover a kickoff. Last year, nobody ever

708
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 2: made it to the twenty five. It might have a

709
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: hand not even a handful of times, and all the

710
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 2: touchdowns the Bills scored, there wasn't a handful of times

711
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 2: where the team got the ball outside the twenty five.

712
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: I think they were top five and kick covers last year.

713
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: They want to continue that because it's a benefit to them,

714
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: So they're going to figure out a way to make

715
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 2: it hard for the return team. To field the ball

716
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: so that they can have as much time as they

717
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: possibly can to run down there closer to the return guy.

718
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 2: Then finally, when he does pick it up, you want

719
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: to be right on top of him, whether they're gonna

720
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: one hop it so he can't fair catch it or

721
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 2: or dribble it down there hot like a like a

722
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 2: grounder in baseball and hope for a bad bounce. But

723
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 2: if you do that, if you hit it hot down

724
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: the middle, there's a chance it gets there quicker, and

725
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 2: that's a roll of the dice. You then you might be,

726
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 2: you know, kind of cutting your own throat doing that right.

727
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: And also, if the return guy has got some savvy

728
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 2: and some patience and some courage, he'll let that thing

729
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: bounce around. Just let it bounce into the end zone.

730
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,400
Speaker 2: Presto change, or you're back out of the twenty five anyway.

731
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 2: So I think there's gonna be more gamesmanship with this

732
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 2: rule change on kickoff than there has been in any

733
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 2: rule change in special There have been real change in

734
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 2: special teams every year. I think this is the one

735
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: where they open up the can of worms that maybe

736
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 2: some guys are going to start trying some stuff that's

737
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 2: gonna make the game look different on kickoffs, But we

738
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: don't know it's a good call. I think it's I mean,

739
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 2: I don't want to give up a twenty five yard line.

740
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: That's big. But if you get it down there and

741
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 2: it's bouncing around and the guy's chasing around like he

742
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: can't pick it up, and he's can't, it's like a

743
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 2: dog chasing his tail trying to pick up a bouncing,

744
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 2: oblong ball. All of a sudden he picks it up

745
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 2: and he's squashed inside the five. That can happen, and

746
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 2: it will happen this year at some point. I'm i'm

747
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 2: I know it won't happen. But opening night a week

748
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 2: from tomorrow, which who's the Thursday night game? I don't

749
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: even know who is it? Do you know who's opening

750
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 2: the season? Who is it? Who's the Thursday Night? I

751
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 2: don't even want Chief's send the Lions, all right, Chief's

752
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 2: the Lions. What happened opening opening kickoff of the entire season?

753
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 2: What's gonna happen when they when they dribble it down

754
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: down the field instead of kicking the booming kickoff? And

755
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 2: now the league kicks off like with a little ski

756
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: not quite as impressive, but it may happen. I don't

757
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 2: know what's going to I think it's nobody knows. I

758
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: think it's going to be different.

759
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: Nobody knows, that's for sure. Let's get back to the phones,

760
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: because we're asking you what position group you believe is

761
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: the strongest on this initial bills fifty three man roster.

762
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: We've heard d line, We've heard running back, which is

763
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: a conversation we can get into. But let's go to

764
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: Joe in Williamsville next. What do you say, Joe?

765
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 5: Hi, guys, thanks for taking my call. As far as

766
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 5: the group, I believe the receiving group would be the

767
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 5: strongest position on a team because of the talent that

768
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 5: we have on there. And I'm also including Dalton, Kincaid

769
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 5: and Max are tight ends. I mean, you know, they're

770
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 5: a very talented group of players and that's what makes

771
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 5: our team go. Steve, I did have a question for

772
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 5: you regarding von Miller on the pup list. Does his

773
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 5: salary still count towards the salary cap for the first

774
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 5: four games even though he's not going to be able

775
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 5: to play. And then just one more comment with the

776
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 5: Taylor Johnson situation in Indianapolis. Thank goodness, we have the

777
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 5: Pagoulas running our team where they stay out of it

778
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 5: and they don't get involved in matters like that because

779
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 5: I think Robert is Ray had a lot to do

780
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 5: with this situation the way it is. Anyway, I'll hang

781
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 5: up and listen to you guys. Thanks for again.

782
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks the PUP.

783
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: I don't know it's the top fifty one players on

784
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: your roster the count toward the cap. Now, if you're

785
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: on PUP, I don't think you're on the roster, right,

786
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 2: You are not on the roster.

787
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: So you are in a reserve designation.

788
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: Right, So that means they probably have a lot of

789
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: cap room right now that they're going to lose when

790
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: Vaughn comes back. Yes, I don't think von count's toward

791
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 2: the salary cap on PUP. So yeah, the cap becomes

792
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: irrelevant when you lose a guy like that with that

793
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 2: big a hit. So there you have it.

794
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: For the caller that was asking about Tommy DeVito, he

795
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: has been signed to the Giants practice squad, so he

796
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: is back with the Giants and not an option. I

797
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: believe it was Ron and Lakajuana that was asking about

798
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 1: him when we come back, we can discuss the running

799
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: back position for the Bills. We heard Ron Lakajuana say

800
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: that he believes it's one of the strongest position groups

801
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: on the roster. Steve and I will debate that when

802
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 1: we return here on One Bills Live presented by Colida Health.

803
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, back here on one

804
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: of Bills Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. We

805
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: are asked today which position group on this initially set

806
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: Bill's fifty three man roster do you feel as the

807
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: strongest on this year's team to start the season eight

808
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,400
Speaker 1: h three zero five fifty one eighty eight five fifty

809
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: two five point fifty. One of our earlier callers, Steve

810
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: suggested the running back group, and I think it's been

811
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: somewhat overlooked it is. It is a lot stronger in

812
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: my opinion than it was last year. You have a

813
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: dynamic talent in the backfield and James Coco can do

814
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: everything you need on a football field from that position,

815
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: and then you have two physical, hard running guys behind

816
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: him in Damien Harris and Latavius Murray. I mean that

817
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: is a pretty good crew right there, and certainly an

818
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: upgrade from last year.

819
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,959
Speaker 2: And Harris and Murray, well they all three, and Cook

820
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: as well. They all flash, particularly in the run game.

821
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: Now Cook flashed a little bit in the passing game

822
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: as well. I like what we saw from him in

823
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: his limited action. But Damien Harris and Latavius Murray both

824
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: I thought showed something in the preseason. And what I

825
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: like about it is given the possibility that you get

826
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 2: down into the red zone and you don't have to

827
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 2: have your quarterback carry the load in the running game,

828
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 2: that's a plus. Both of those guys can do it

829
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 2: and run physical and it doesn't matter if the defense

830
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: knows that Josh isn't carrying the ball anymore in the

831
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: red zone. Those guys are still going to get the yards.

832
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 2: So I'm particularly with the side of the offensive line

833
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: the Bills now have. So I feel good that now

834
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: you can take one more thing, even though albeit a

835
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: small niche situational football away from Josh. It's not on

836
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 2: his plate anymore to you know, run the student body right,

837
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: student body left out of the shotgun with two or

838
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 2: three offensive linemen ahead of him. I mean it's work.

839
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: It worked really good, but you know, somebody falls the

840
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 2: wrong way, and now you're sunk.

841
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: You think about the way Latavius Murray ran in the

842
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 1: first preseason game against the Colts, think about the way

843
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: Damian Harris ran in the third preseason game against the Bears,

844
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: and then think about this too, the way in which

845
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,360
Speaker 1: the Bills ran the football from start to finish against

846
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: the Bears first team, second team, third team. It was

847
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,399
Speaker 1: a clinic and in not the same way that we've

848
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: seen in recent years from this football team. Now. I

849
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: am not indicating, by any stretch of the imagination that

850
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 1: this team is suddenly going to be a fifty to

851
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,839
Speaker 1: fifty run pass team. That is not happening here as

852
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: I see it. But when they have to turn to

853
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: the run game in certain instances, whether they have a

854
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: big lead and want to salt the game away, or

855
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: for some reason they're passing games out of sink and

856
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: they have to turn to something else, I got to

857
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: tell you I feel a whole lot better about them

858
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: turning to that part of their offense if they need to.

859
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 2: The ripple effects are big because if you do get

860
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 2: a running game where whenever you call on it, it's

861
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: a positive play, and like a or a four yard

862
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 2: run at least of a sudden. It broadens the situations

863
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 2: where the defense knows there's a pretty good chance they're

864
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 2: gonna hand this off. They know you're not afraid to

865
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: do that. And you're picking up third downs on a

866
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 2: third and three or third and four when you're handing

867
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: it off under center. Man, oh man, the defense is

868
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: like because then all of a sudden, you know, you

869
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: start out and all of a sudden, you're now you're

870
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 2: in shotgun and you're you're throwing it on a third

871
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 2: and five, you're throwing it eight yards down the field

872
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 2: and getting a fifteen yard run after it. Man, the

873
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 2: defense is under an enormous amount of pressure, all because

874
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: they believe there's just as likely a chance and this

875
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 2: personnel that you're gonna hand it to the guy and

876
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to stop him. We haven't done that yet.

877
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 2: The ripple effects and what that opens up for an

878
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator and Josh and the whole thing, it just

879
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: makes you so much more efficient, so much more efficient,

880
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 2: and it, like I said, it broadens the window of

881
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: opportunities to hand the ball off, and not just the opportunities,

882
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: but the possibility that the defense is gonna have to

883
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: sit there and go, man, I don't know if they're

884
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 2: going to run it or pass it here, because there

885
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: was no more not much question about it a year ago. Correct,

886
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 2: So they're putting it in the hands of seventeen.

887
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, so much so that play action kind of disappeared

888
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: from the offense to even hint that a run could

889
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: be coming. And they even do that a whole lot

890
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: last year, so at least in the second half of

891
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: the Sea, right, so be nice to see them get

892
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: back to more of that too. And with a stronger

893
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: running game, people are buying it better. They're buying those

894
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: play fakes even more than they did last year, which

895
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: could open up big plays down the fields for your

896
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 1: passing game. Just to update everybody in terms of all

897
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: of the reports circulating out there, here are the names

898
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: that have been linked to Buffalo's practice squad, which will

899
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: be officially assembled effective at four pm. Here are the

900
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: names that have been reported as players set to sign

901
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 1: to the Bills Preyer Squad, Ilonku Kyron Brown. As Steve

902
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, JaMarcus Ingram, the other Corner UB product, DJ Dale,

903
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: the undrafted rookie from Alabama, Cameron Klein, Andy Isabella Joel Wilson,

904
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: and Richard Garage. Those are the names that have all

905
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: been linked to the Bill's practice squad. Again, we'll get

906
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: official confirmation on the sixteen members of that squad later

907
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 1: this afternoon, and don't be surprised if they only name

908
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: let's say fourteen. Maybe they're still working on a couple

909
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: of others. Yeah, but it'll be filled out, presumably by

910
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: the end of the week, maybe as soon as tomorrow.

911
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: At this time, we have to take a break here

912
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: because when we come back, we're going to be joined

913
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Speaker 1: by our good friend, senior producer of NFL Films, one

914
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: Greg Cosell. He's going to dice up the roster decisions

915
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: on this Bill's fifty three man squad with us when

916
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: we return for Hour number two here on One Bill's

917
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: Live presented by Colida Health.

918
00:48:56,520 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 7: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

919
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 3: This One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

920
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 2: Hour number two.

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00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: Here on a Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you,

922
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: talking Bill's initial fifty three man roster. Are expecting some tweaks,

923
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,919
Speaker 1: and here to discuss some of the initial decisions made

924
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: by the Bills personnel and coaching staff departments. Is our

925
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 1: good friend from NFL Films, the senior producer, Greg Cosel.

926
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 4: Greg, how you doing, Brownie? Steve? What's happening?

927
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: Oh? You know, just a little roster juggling here and there,

928
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: and probably a little bit more before it's all said.

929
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 4: Bec Brownie, what do you think is going to happen?

930
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: Well, Reed, Ferguson has got to get back on the roster.

931
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,479
Speaker 1: They had him off of it just for a little

932
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 1: roster juggling maintenance. So we're expecting some players to get

933
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: ir to create some space. I'm sure you've seen the

934
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: reports that the Bills are expected to sign Jermaine Affetti,

935
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:39,320
Speaker 1: the veteran offensive tackle, So that'll fortify the ranks there.

936
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: And since we are talking tackle, Greg, let's talk about

937
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: the ascension of one Ryan Van Dermark. The Yukon product

938
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: played three years of left tackle at Yukon, was on

939
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 1: the practice squad here last year, worked with Aaron Kromer

940
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,959
Speaker 1: for over a year, and rocketed up the depth chart

941
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: through the course of this summer to not only make

942
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: the fifty three man roster, but to unseat last year's

943
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: swing tackle David Questenberry, who didn't even make the fifty

944
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: three man squad.

945
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I didn't, to be honest with you,

946
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 4: and other than watching him in the preseason, I did

947
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 4: not know much about Vandermark. I had to look up

948
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 4: his background and saw that he was a three year

949
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 4: starter in college. But seeing him in the preseason, you know,

950
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 4: and I think we discussed him a week or so ago. Length, athleticism,

951
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 4: moves well, certainly has the trait you look for at

952
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 4: the position. Now again, in an ideal world, you're you know,

953
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 4: you probably don't want him to be your starter given

954
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 4: what they do have. But I guess we'll see how

955
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 4: this plays out. Dawkins is certainly entrenched at the left

956
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 4: tackle position. My guess is that there are some question

957
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,439
Speaker 4: marks about right tackle at this point in time as

958
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:57,439
Speaker 4: to how that, you know, plays out, because the one

959
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,279
Speaker 4: thing we all know is that you'd like to get

960
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 4: five out and not have to keep someone into help

961
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 4: your right tackle and pass protection, particularly on third down.

962
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 4: So we'll see how all that plays out. But yeah,

963
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 4: vander Mark is certainly looks the part. He's got tremendous lanes,

964
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 4: long arms, long body, good feet. It's a good story

965
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 4: and obviously Aaron Cromer's were doing this a long time,

966
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,879
Speaker 4: so he obviously feels very good about him.

967
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, we And the question mark seems to be Spencer Brown.

968
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 2: And he was a roller coaster last year. He spent

969
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 2: the whole offseason recovering from a minor back a back

970
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 2: surgery that he had. Then he comes in gets a

971
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 2: high ankle spray. Never seemed to find his stride last year,

972
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 2: and it was a little bit and it was fair

973
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 2: to say it was like a roller coaster last year.

974
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 2: He'd have really good reps and bad you know, it

975
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 2: was just both ends of the spectrum. And that's really

976
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 2: what you hate to see, you know, the offense. You'd

977
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 2: rather have the guy at least at a level where

978
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 2: you know how much you've got to help him from

979
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: play to play. But that's what seems to be a

980
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: problem with Brown, right.

981
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 4: The other thing too, Steve, And this is just the

982
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 4: nature of your quarterback. I mean, Josh all it's a

983
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 4: great quarterback, that's not the point. But he's a certain

984
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 4: kind of quarterback. You know, Josh Allen will have a

985
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 4: tendency to leave the pocket at times before he has to,

986
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,680
Speaker 4: and he makes special plays doing so. And he'll probably

987
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 4: always be that kind of quarterback. To some extent, and

988
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 4: when it's his front side and he would see someone,

989
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,919
Speaker 4: you know, the pass rusher, the edge pass rusher look

990
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 4: like they're beating Brown. You know, Josh would move and

991
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 4: you know, so the nature of your quarterback and a

992
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 4: right tackle that was up and down, as you said,

993
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,240
Speaker 4: And the tape showed that, because I ended up watching

994
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 4: a ton of Josh Allen dropbacks about two three weeks ago.

995
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 4: You know, the tape showed that that Brown would often

996
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 4: initially get beat and Josh could see that because it's

997
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 4: in his you know, it's his front side, and that

998
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 4: would cause him to break down at times before he

999
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 4: had to. And you don't really want to be in

1000
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:48,360
Speaker 4: that situation.

1001
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: Moving to the other side of the ball. Another former

1002
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: practice squatter who made the fifty three man roster Greg Kingsley.

1003
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: Jonathan the Syracuse product undrafted rook He signs with the

1004
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: Bills last year, gets plucked off their practice squad, plays

1005
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: five games in Chicago. They cut him last year. The

1006
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: Bills managed to get him back on their practice squad

1007
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: for the duration last season. Comes in this year, has

1008
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: an advanced repertoire of pass rush moves. Had a great

1009
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: sack against the Steelers in preseason game number two where

1010
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 1: he flattened after beating the man on a rip move,

1011
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: and then last week has a left arm stab on

1012
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: the left tackle and then spins back underneath the pass

1013
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: rush arc and almost gets to justin fields. Just your

1014
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: thoughts on the advances that Kingsley Jonathan has made in

1015
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: his game to make a spot on the fifty three.

1016
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, great story too, because as you started looking at

1017
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 4: his history, he's, you know, one of those guys that

1018
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,359
Speaker 4: seems like he's, you know, a free agent and he's

1019
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 4: waved and he's claimed, then he's waved and he's you know,

1020
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 4: he's one of those guys really good length for the position.

1021
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 4: You know, he could play inside or outside, you know,

1022
00:54:56,080 --> 00:55:01,239
Speaker 4: and again obviously those kinds of players I think are

1023
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 4: important to to Sean McDermott. You know, I think players

1024
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 4: who can line up inside or outside, and obviously they're

1025
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,919
Speaker 4: going to be a rotational player. He's not gonna play

1026
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:14,319
Speaker 4: sixty snaps a game. But I think they're looking for

1027
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 4: pass rush, you know, until von Miller gets back, which

1028
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 4: I guess the earliest would be the fifth game of

1029
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 4: the season or the fifth week, right, ye, based on Yeah,

1030
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 4: so you know, until he comes back, you're looking for

1031
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 4: pass rush. In an ideal world, I think they would

1032
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 4: prefer not to have to pressure a lot, although with

1033
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 4: Sean calling the defense, you know, depending on what he sees.

1034
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 4: His background certainly comes from a Jim Johnson in Philadelphia

1035
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 4: back back in the day, and he was a very

1036
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 4: big blitz guy. So you don't know how this will

1037
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 4: play out when the regular season starts, but if you

1038
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 4: don't want to blitz, you need your front four obviously

1039
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 4: to exert meaningful, consistent pressure on the quarterback at least

1040
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 4: speed him up if you don't sack him. So Jonathan

1041
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 4: could be a guy that fits that. The other thing,

1042
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 4: I'm curious, Brownie, I don't know if you're going to

1043
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 4: go there with this what kind of camp? Because I'm

1044
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 4: not there every day, you guys are what kind of

1045
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 4: camp did Leonard Floyd have.

1046
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 2: I'm just going to ask you about him. What in

1047
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 2: the past, he's been like a nine and a half

1048
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 2: ten sacks right at nine nine and a half sacks

1049
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 2: every year he came in and seems to have, you know,

1050
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 2: kind of solidified his spot there. We're going to ask

1051
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 2: you what about his production he seems to be behind

1052
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 2: Rousseau for the time being and behind von Miller when

1053
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:31,279
Speaker 2: he's out there. But he's got those He's long and

1054
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 2: got a lot of traits, and yeah, I think we've

1055
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 2: got some expectations for him.

1056
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 1: I think they kind of paced him through training camp. Greg.

1057
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,920
Speaker 1: They really didn't give him a crazy amount of reps

1058
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: because I think after the spring and then the first

1059
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 1: week of camp, I think they were like, Okay, he's

1060
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: checking all the boxes. He is what we thought he was.

1061
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 1: Let's look at some of these younger guys that they

1062
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: had to get a handle on, like a Kingsley Jonathan

1063
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: or a Cameron Kline. And so he was kind of

1064
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: paced through training camp.

1065
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 4: The reason I asked is because and Steve just hit

1066
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 4: upon it. He's never become I think what people might

1067
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 4: have hoped, because I think he was a top ten

1068
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 4: pick initially. But he's long, he's athletic, he looks the part.

1069
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 4: He's had moments in this league where he said, wow,

1070
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 4: that's pretty good. And the reason I mentioned him is

1071
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 4: if he can play, particularly in your past rush situations.

1072
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 4: Maybe he's not a full time starter, and he probably

1073
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 4: won't be, but if he can come in in your

1074
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 4: sub fronts and play on the edge. My question becomes this,

1075
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 4: does Rousseau in your sub fronts? Does he move inside?

1076
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 4: And do you have Miller and Floyd on the edge

1077
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 4: because Russeau people may not remember this, but I obviously

1078
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 4: studied Rousseau coming out of the University of Miami, and

1079
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 4: at the University of Miami, Russeau played inside a lot

1080
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 4: on third downs and was very good at it. And

1081
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 4: he's got tremendous length and tremendous leverage. And again he's

1082
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 4: played almost exclusively on the outside for the Ills in

1083
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 4: his uh two years. I guess is he a two

1084
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 4: year player?

1085
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 1: Keep talking about it, though, because we're speaking my turbo

1086
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: package into existence. We'll have ad it.

1087
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 4: We well, that's I mean again, I you know, it's

1088
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 4: not like you know, I'm on speed dial with Sean

1089
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 4: or anything, but you know, if Floyd can be an

1090
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 4: edge pass rusher, because he certainly looks the part. We

1091
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 4: know von Miller is coming back and you bring Rousseau

1092
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 4: inside and you know, maybe you get a better four

1093
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:28,960
Speaker 4: man pass rush and you're able to play and do

1094
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 4: you know, do a lot more in coverage.

1095
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1096
00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 2: We we have spoken at length on the show about

1097
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 2: the exact same thing. When Russo came out. You saw

1098
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 2: a lot of film of him on the nose. You know,

1099
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 2: he was right down outside and you know, at six seven,

1100
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 2: which is what he is in long and lean, a

1101
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 2: guy like Tua, somebody, the smaller stature quarterbacks are gonna

1102
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 2: have this guy right in their face with his arms up.

1103
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 4: I mean, think of a guy like the Farest Buckner

1104
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 4: who's six seven or really really good defensive tackle. And

1105
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 4: you know those guys they stick their arms up and man,

1106
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 4: they got a lot of length to them.

1107
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's gonna be a problem. And you said it.

1108
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 2: I mean, Brown and I were thinking about the exact

1109
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 2: same thing when Lloyd's when Leonard Floyd showed up, as

1110
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 2: to what would happen when Vaughan came in and put

1111
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 2: Floyd on the outside and then just move him down

1112
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 2: with Ed Oliver down inside as well, who's a penetrator.

1113
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 2: It seemed to be a really nice package of pass

1114
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 2: rushers with a lot of speed and bent and you know,

1115
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 2: ability to get the corner.

1116
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 4: Look, you know, the bottom line is to this point

1117
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 4: in time, I know they signed Oliver okay, but you

1118
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 4: know he's a. He's a shorter guy, and at this

1119
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 4: point in time, he's not really shown to be a

1120
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,479
Speaker 4: pass rusher per se. So you know, we talked about

1121
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 4: someone like Kingsley Jonathan he's six ' four. You know

1122
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 4: what happens if And again I'm just throwing this out.

1123
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 4: We don't know anything right now, and I want that

1124
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 4: to be clear. We don't really know anything, or we're

1125
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 4: doing is talking talking ball, you know, like a bunch

1126
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 4: of guys sitting around the bar talking ball. But I mean,

1127
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 4: let's say you had Floyd and Miller on the outside

1128
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 4: and Rousseau and Jonathan inside in your sub. You know,

1129
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 4: you got speed off the edge, you got size inside.

1130
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 4: Who knows? I mean, you know all this has to

1131
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 4: get worked out.

1132
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'll just make water the seed that you

1133
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: just planted by telling you that Greg Russau worked with

1134
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 1: Defares Buckner and Eric Armstead this offseason in Charlottey go

1135
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,439
Speaker 1: down at Clemson, so could be an indication on where

1136
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: he might be lining up at least part of the

1137
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: time this season for the Bills. I wanted to talk

1138
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: to you about him, Go ahead.

1139
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 8: I was just gonna say, it's really interesting, though, Brownie,

1140
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,120
Speaker 8: because I wonder if he did that, like if the

1141
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 8: organization mentioned anything about it to him to do that,

1142
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 8: or if he just did that on his own, because

1143
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 8: you know, obviously those guys, you know, Armsteads played inside

1144
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 8: and outside.

1145
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 4: Buckner's is an exclusive inside player, but they're both six

1146
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 4: six sixty seven.

1147
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very interesting. I think body types are somewhat similar,

1148
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: so maybe that was the impetus behind it, but it's

1149
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: still interesting. Nonetheless, I wanted to talk to you about

1150
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: Buffalo's cornerback situation. They are they are deep there in

1151
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 1: terms of capable talent, you know, with the two draft

1152
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: choices from last season along with Dane Jackson and Tredavious White.

1153
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: Steve and I were knocking this around the other day,

1154
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: and I'm curious if you have a working knowledge of

1155
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: how prevalent this could be. But we were talking about

1156
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: how it looks, at least going into this week and

1157
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: week one next week, that Christian Benford may have eked

1158
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: out Dane Jackson for the starting corner job opposite Tradeavious White.

1159
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: But clearly you have two corners behind the two projected

1160
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 1: starters with starting experience, with a body of work that

1161
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,320
Speaker 1: shows they are capable of making plays, and we were

1162
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: kind of throwing around the idea and the notion that hey,

1163
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: you know what, in a given week, a given matchup,

1164
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: might make it a good idea to put Kyrie Elam

1165
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: man to man on a guy and have him follow

1166
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 1: somebody all week and maybe somebody else steps out of

1167
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: the starting lineup so Elim can execute that assignment. I

1168
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 1: just I guess what I'm getting at, Greg, is these

1169
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: four corners top to bottom. To me, there isn't a

1170
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: tremendous amount of separation between them. I think that's part

1171
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: of what made the cornerback two battle here so difficult

1172
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: to discern and pick a winner. So with that in mind,

1173
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: I'm wondering how prevalent it is around the league to

1174
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 1: kind of maybe spots start a corner in a given

1175
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: week from the guy that you normally have out there

1176
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: playing fifty sixty snaps a.

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01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,919
Speaker 4: Week when you normally I mean just you normally don't

1178
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 4: see that Brownie. I mean again, that doesn't mean it

1179
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 4: can't happen. I was going to ask you, guys, and

1180
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 4: I'm glad you brought this up, what is going on

1181
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,760
Speaker 4: with Kyrie elam I mean, because I mean I've seen

1182
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 4: the preseason games and you know, has he gotten beat

1183
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 4: a few times? You know, yeah, but not badly with

1184
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 4: you and oh my god, that guy can't play. So

1185
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 4: something's going on there through camp. I mean, is he

1186
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 4: not performed well.

1187
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that. I mean there are instances where

1188
01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 1: he might get a little grabby. We saw that in

1189
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 1: the pit game down in the end zone. But really

1190
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: it was an inconsequencial penalty in the end zone because

1191
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: the team was the Steelers were already on the two

1192
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: yard line. It was essentially a one yard penalty that

1193
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: you take, but it was on a third and goal,

1194
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: So you don't want to do that on a third

1195
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 1: and goal from the two and give them first and

1196
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: goal at the one. Yeah, it's a one yard penalty,

1197
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: but it's also a fresh set of downs. So recognition

1198
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: of down and distance, time and score. I think those

1199
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 1: are things that he's got to focus on more than

1200
01:03:25,080 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: his ability to play the football.

1201
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 2: And I think one more thing that we talked about

1202
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 2: a little bit is that I don't know that it's

1203
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 2: they like all four of these guys a bunch, Tredevious,

1204
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 2: Dane Jackson, Kyrie Elam and Christian Benford. They all have

1205
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:44,000
Speaker 2: a different feel, and I think there's some I think

1206
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 2: there's some difference of opinion on the staff about which

1207
01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 2: one they think is a better fit or you know,

1208
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 2: the bigger upside as opposed to the steady player kind

1209
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 2: of thing. I think there's some of that going on

1210
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 2: as well, because I think they like all of those guys,

1211
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 2: and Tarren Johnson of course, so I like they like.

1212
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 4: Say that because Brownie, when you were talking a moment

1213
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 4: ago about you know, week to week, I started to

1214
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 4: think of Bill Belichick and the way you know, he

1215
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 4: would some weeks he could play guys and the next

1216
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 4: week a guy could be you know, he could be inactive,

1217
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 4: and the next week he could be a staughter. Now

1218
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 4: I'm not suggesting that's going to happen here, but I

1219
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 4: don't know if if they really like all these guys,

1220
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 4: maybe it is possible that it becomes an opponent specific

1221
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 4: who they're playing, how much man they want to play

1222
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 4: versus how much zone. You know, there's so many factors,

1223
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 4: as you guys know, that go into it. But you know,

1224
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 4: look to Davious White, He's I would doubt that he

1225
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 4: would ever sit but you know, I don't know the

1226
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 4: answer to that, but I would doubt that. But then

1227
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 4: so then I think you're dealing with the three other

1228
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 4: guys and how they might play out, you know, depending

1229
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 4: on who they're playing.

1230
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think Benford had the best body

1231
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: of work through the course of the preseason. He was

1232
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 1: probably the most consistent of the three that were competing.

1233
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 1: And then you know, I think Dane Jackson's just kind

1234
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: of like a steady eddy player at times. He shows

1235
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: a nose for the football. Kyir is the most physically

1236
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:08,400
Speaker 1: gifted of the three. Yeah, And that's that's what kind

1237
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: of gets me because I keep seeing this in my head.

1238
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: Last year in the playoffs Bill's Dolphins up Here wild

1239
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: Card playoff game, Tyreek Hill runs an eighteen yard dig

1240
01:05:17,760 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: route and Kyer Elam is with him every step of

1241
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 1: the way. And after the play, Tyreek Hill actually turns

1242
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 1: around like, who the heck was with me? Stride for

1243
01:05:27,120 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 1: stride on an eighteen yard comeback that never happens, like

1244
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 1: he was shot, right, And so I think about that

1245
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 1: just what I know, it's just one play, but now

1246
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: it makes me think, like, hey, we're game planning for

1247
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. We got Waddle and Tyreek Hill to worry about.

1248
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: Why would we not put our best physically gifted corner

1249
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 1: on one of these guys as a game plan for

1250
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: the game.

1251
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 4: No, I mean it's possible. You just you know, that

1252
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 4: becomes a coaching decision and a philosophy, and you know,

1253
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 4: I don't think any of us can answer that right now.

1254
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 4: Right the other question, I was gonna ask you guy,

1255
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 4: if they had a line up and play tomorrow, who's

1256
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 4: the linebacker next to Milano?

1257
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's Tyrell Dodson. That's our that's our guests.

1258
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1259
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 1: I think Bernard missed the entire preseason. He just got

1260
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: back on the practice field today and is not all

1261
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: the way back from the hamstring injury. To me, I

1262
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 1: don't know how you feel about this, Greg, but I

1263
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: think there's a couple of reasons why it's got to

1264
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 1: be Dodson. And look, he's he's got his strengths and

1265
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: he has his drawbacks to his game. But I think

1266
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: he gives you just a little bit more than Aj

1267
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 1: Klein does, who's not on the roster right now. We'll

1268
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: see if he winds up on the Bills practice squad

1269
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 1: as veteran insurance number one. I just think Bernard missed

1270
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: way too much time to be considered right now for

1271
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 1: the starting job. And I think if Bernard has this

1272
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 1: recovery this week and then you know, can practice fully

1273
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: next week, and then you put him in the starting lineup,

1274
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: I think it's an insult to Tyrel Dotson because you're

1275
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: basically rendering his entire preseason meaningless. And if I'm Tyrel Dotson,

1276
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the heck did I do for the

1277
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: last three games? Why was I busting my hump to

1278
01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: earn this job when you were just gonna give it

1279
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 1: to this guy anyway, who did nothing in the preseason.

1280
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:16,640
Speaker 1: I think it's a.

1281
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 4: And Dotson played a lot of snaps. Yeah, they wanted

1282
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 4: to play.

1283
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that kind of decision would be a

1284
01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: bad look in the locker room, if you will. So

1285
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 1: that's not to say that Terrell Bernard couldn't be the

1286
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: starting middle linebacker by week four, but I think right

1287
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Speaker 1: now for week one, it's I think it's gonna be Dotson.

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Speaker 4: What's your sense of Dorian Williams and his and his

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01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 4: preseason in training camp.

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Speaker 1: I thought he had a great preseason. I thought he

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01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 1: was very productive. It was a shame he missed the

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01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 1: last game with the calf injury because he was really

1293
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 1: on the ascent there. I mean, he was a leading

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01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,760
Speaker 1: tackler in both games for this team, you know, from

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01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 1: the will position. I know at the end of one

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01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: of those preseason games they moved him back over to

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01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 1: Mike a little bit, but as of right now, we're

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01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: not getting the sense that he is part of that

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01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: equation yet. I would tend to think it's it's going

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01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: to kind of go based on how either Dotson and

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01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: or Bernard look, and if they don't fulfill all the

1302
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:16,560
Speaker 1: responsibilities of that role, he could shift back there. I

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01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't rule it out.

1304
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 2: I think the thing about Dorian Williams is it was

1305
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,760
Speaker 2: a little bit too much for him early on, and

1306
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 2: with everything that's going on in your first training camp

1307
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 2: and you're trying to grab it all. I think they

1308
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 2: felt like it was too much on his plate to

1309
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,679
Speaker 2: give it to him, both the Mike and the Will,

1310
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:33,639
Speaker 2: So they gave him the one thing.

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Speaker 4: About him without you know, without knowing how he's taught.

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01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 4: You know, obviously it's different from when he was taught

1313
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 4: at Tulane. It's a whole different deal, right, But he

1314
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 4: definitely and I hate to sound cliched, Steve, but you

1315
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 4: know exactly what I'm talking about because you played with

1316
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 4: guys like this. He is definitely a sea Ball get

1317
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 4: ball guy.

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01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 2: Right.

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01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,720
Speaker 4: He may make a mistake, I'm sure, but you know

1320
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 4: when they chart every snap, but he is around the

1321
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 4: football and he makes tackles.

1322
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's what I think they see. But I

1323
01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 2: think in the beginning they didn't want to overload him

1324
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,879
Speaker 2: mentally and wanted to let him play like that Seaball

1325
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 2: get ball with making fewer mistakes. And now that he's

1326
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:08,800
Speaker 2: been in it for a month and a half, now

1327
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:10,559
Speaker 2: they're starting you know, like you said, they gave him

1328
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 2: a minute at the mic where he'd been backing up

1329
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 2: Milano for whole training.

1330
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Speaker 4: Can you got to trust him? I mean you and

1331
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:18,600
Speaker 4: know how it is with defensive coaches. Both of you

1332
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 4: guys know you've been around the game. That's a word

1333
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,679
Speaker 4: you hear all the time from defensive coaches. It's why

1334
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 4: sometimes guys with lesser talent play because they can trust

1335
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 4: them to do the right thing on every play.

1336
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 2: Well yeah, that's yeah, that's that's it. In a nutshell,

1337
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 2: they got to know you're gonna because and particularly playing Mike,

1338
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 2: you doing what you're supposed to do makes all the

1339
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 2: other ten guys do what they're supposed to do because

1340
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 2: you're the guy talking to them and making the key.

1341
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 2: You're making the adjustments and the adjustment packages. And if

1342
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 2: you're not on it, something's gonna go haywiring. Somebody's gonna

1343
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 2: be running free with nobody on them.

1344
01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: Last one we had. Last one we had for you,

1345
01:09:55,160 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: Greg Hardy and Sherfield, two of the new more domin

1346
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 1: in additions to the receiving corps. I think we were

1347
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 1: very encouraged by what we saw from those two through

1348
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 1: the course of the preseason. From Hardy in particular, in

1349
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 1: this last preseason game against Chicago, we saw how Ken

1350
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: Dorsey at least we got indication of how he wants

1351
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: to get him out in space in a variety of

1352
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 1: different ways, knowing what he can do when he has

1353
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 1: space available to him in terms of getting yards after

1354
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 1: the catch. Well, just based up what has the preseason

1355
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 1: told you about how those two can help this passing game.

1356
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 4: Well. The other thing too, is Hardy was with the

1357
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 4: Saints and the year that Jamis Williams started with the Saints,

1358
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,160
Speaker 4: and before he got hurt, you know, Week seven or eight,

1359
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 4: he hit Hardy on a couple of deep bombs. That

1360
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 4: kid can run, and obviously you got a quarterback that

1361
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 4: can throw at the length of the football field. So

1362
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,240
Speaker 4: to have a guy that can really run as well.

1363
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 4: Besides being very good run after catch, whether you're talking

1364
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 4: jet sweeps or tunnel screens. But this kid can run

1365
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 4: and get over the top. So you know, I think

1366
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 4: you'll see some specific plays for him because he's got

1367
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,960
Speaker 4: a track record Brownie in the league. I've seen him,

1368
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 4: you know, in Sherfield, I always thought Sherfield was just

1369
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,200
Speaker 4: a really solid kind of number three type receiver. I

1370
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 4: can remember last year. I think it was the first

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01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,360
Speaker 4: play of the game against the forty nine ers. The

1372
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 4: forty nine ers made a defensive mistake in coverage and

1373
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 4: he caught a probably a twelve yard in breaking route

1374
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 4: and he took it to the house for a seventy

1375
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 4: five yard touchdown. He's always been a solid receiver, you know,

1376
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 4: one of those kinds of guys that I think every

1377
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 4: team needs. Like I'm he's certainly a different receiver than

1378
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 4: let's say it, Cal Beasley stylistically, but you know, I

1379
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 4: think he's one of those guys you can trust on

1380
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 4: third down, and I think every team needs that kind

1381
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 4: of guy.

1382
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 2: And we heard from Brandon Bean that, you know, and

1383
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 2: we told you that most of the guys in the

1384
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 2: bottom of the roster behind Steph Diggs and Gabe Davis

1385
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 2: and Hardy and Isabella and Shakir, the guys they brought

1386
01:11:58,240 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 2: in were all big, really big, and Sure feels a

1387
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 2: little bit bigger as well. I mean he's six foot

1388
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 2: and stuff.

1389
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 4: But and they kept Shorter who's almost six y four.

1390
01:12:07,960 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 2: That's right. But Brandon Bean told us Sean that Josh

1391
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:16,880
Speaker 2: Allen seems to like littler guys because of the way

1392
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,840
Speaker 2: they separate in tight spaces, you know, the quick So

1393
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 2: he they're like, they're like like he loved Cole Beasley,

1394
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 2: like John Brown. He liked those guys like that, and

1395
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,720
Speaker 2: he continues to like to like Hardy, and he liked

1396
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 2: Isabelle in the preseason as well. So I don't know

1397
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 2: that we were raised our eyebrows. They have three guys

1398
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,799
Speaker 2: from all the receivers they had last year, Shaki, Davis

1399
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 2: and Diggs as the only guys in the room. They're

1400
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 2: the same as last year. That gave us some hesitation

1401
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 2: going into training camp. But I think these guys that

1402
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 2: they have got with Sherfield and Hardy seemed to be

1403
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 2: the right guys.

1404
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 4: Well, we'll find out. It's getting to be that time, guys.

1405
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 4: They opened with the Jets Monday Night football the nation

1406
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 4: will be watched.

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01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 1: They will, indeed, and we'll be previewing that with you

1408
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 1: next week. Thanks very much for the time as always, Greg,

1409
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 1: As I said, we'll catch up with you in week one.

1410
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 1: We finally made it back to the start of the

1411
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,680
Speaker 1: regular season and your film watching begins.

1412
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks, guys, I really appreciate it. Look forward to

1413
01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 4: next week.

1414
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 1: All right. That's great co Sell joining us here senior

1415
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 1: producer from NFL Films. He'll also be firing up as

1416
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 1: co host of ESPN's NFL Matchup show, and I wouldn't

1417
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 1: be surprised if Bill's Jets is on his docket for

1418
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 1: week one. We will take a break here. When we return,

1419
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 1: we're going to hear from one Kingsley Jonathan who addressed

1420
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:44,520
Speaker 1: the media after practice today, and undoubtedly we'll talk about

1421
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 1: making the fifty three man roster of your Buffalo Bills.

1422
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 1: That's coming up next here on One Bill's Live. Stay tuned,

1423
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 1: all right, Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown

1424
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 1: Steve tasked with you a bit of Bill's practice squad

1425
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 1: news courtesy of NFL Networks Sean Rapaport. He is reporting

1426
01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:14,760
Speaker 1: at former Texans captain and starting linebacker Christian Curtsey, who

1427
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,440
Speaker 1: was a surprise Kirksey, who was a surprise cut on Tuesday,

1428
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 1: is planning to sign with the Bills practice squad and

1429
01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 1: that he prioritized winning for his next destination. Obviously, he's

1430
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,719
Speaker 1: been dealing with a lot of losing down in Houston

1431
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 1: with the Texans. That guy was the team's leading tackler

1432
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:36,680
Speaker 1: last year in Houston. He is also, if memory serves me,

1433
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 1: former college teammate of one Micah Hyde at the University

1434
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 1: of Iowa. So how about that. But yeah, one hundred

1435
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,680
Speaker 1: and twenty four tackles last year, seven tackles for a

1436
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 1: loss and a fumble recovery.

1437
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 2: She's coming to Buffalo. There you go.

1438
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 1: That is according to one Ian Rappaport, thirty years old.

1439
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:58,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, been in the league for a minute, so

1440
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, So we'll see if that comes

1441
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:07,920
Speaker 1: to pass. That would be a get for sure, pretty

1442
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,599
Speaker 1: athletic veteran player. So that would be former third round

1443
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 1: pick of the Browns all the way back in the

1444
01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen draft. But we turn now to one Kingsley Jonathan,

1445
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 1: who was an undrafted rookie here last year. Fast forward

1446
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 1: a year later and he is a member of the

1447
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:29,839
Speaker 1: Bills fifty three man roster. Here is Kingsley Jonathan addressing

1448
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 1: the media after practice today.

1449
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 9: Everything I do here is just one day at a time,

1450
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 9: one play at a time. I can't start thinking too

1451
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 9: far ahead. I can't start looking at what's around me.

1452
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 9: It's got to focus on what I can control. You

1453
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 9: can take it one day at a time.

1454
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 2: Can you walk us through exactly what lent down him yesterday?

1455
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 2: How you found out who you talked to.

1456
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 9: That's the thing. No news is good news. So I

1457
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 9: was looking at my phone all day yesterday today before,

1458
01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:55,759
Speaker 9: I was just looking at it, looking at it, praying,

1459
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 9: you know, and I just at the moment I just

1460
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 9: stopped looking at it and hear anything. So I was like,

1461
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 9: I just gotta go in the next day. I didn't

1462
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 9: want to go, and I was gonna hide, but but

1463
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 9: I went in and it was a just awesome used

1464
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,479
Speaker 9: to hear that they believe in me enough to put

1465
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 9: me on this team to be able to show what

1466
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 9: I can do.

1467
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,719
Speaker 1: Were you nervous to see if the key card still worked?

1468
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 9: I had somebody go and find me to unlock I

1469
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 9: just I just walked behind him.

1470
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 1: You know.

1471
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always it's a great day, but it's always

1472
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 2: a tough day when you see guys around you not

1473
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 2: here anymore, including Bloogie, who could develop a relationship with.

1474
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 4: I mean, what can you say about what going through.

1475
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 2: All those emotions?

1476
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, it's a lot. You know, some guys that

1477
01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:35,759
Speaker 9: past few months, they get to know, get to be brothers,

1478
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 9: you know, do a lot together, get close together, hang

1479
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 9: out together, you know, and you know, just wishing them

1480
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,639
Speaker 9: all the best and in God speed.

1481
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 8: You know, it's been quite a journey for you from

1482
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 8: your start, and the chance to reflect on on this

1483
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,120
Speaker 8: at this point, obviously it's just a quick turnaround.

1484
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 9: I usually do just quick reflections, you know, thank God

1485
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:57,439
Speaker 9: for what I have now and thank God just put

1486
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 9: them in a position I am to keep doing what

1487
01:16:59,760 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 9: I can do. You know, I take advantage of this opportunity,

1488
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 9: you know, but once in a while, I reflect, you know,

1489
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:08,120
Speaker 9: remember where I came from and where I need to go.

1490
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 2: When you came in today, what a teammate's coaching say

1491
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 2: to you about.

1492
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 5: This acooge film.

1493
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 9: I mean, a lot of guys woul happened for me.

1494
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 9: I just congratulated me and just that's the f kind

1495
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 9: of family we have here, you know, Guys, I'm wishing

1496
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 9: the best and looking out for each other. You know,

1497
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 9: that's kind of camarade were built through with this few

1498
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 9: past few years.

1499
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 4: What was a conversation like to a family after the

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Speaker 4: deadline kind of knowing.

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Speaker 1: That you had made the team? It was awesome.

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01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 9: I just sent one text message to to to both

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01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 9: my families, and those are the two people I s

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01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 9: I talked to first, and it was awesome, like to

1505
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:44,000
Speaker 9: hear them celebrate, you know, and be happy, you know,

1506
01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 9: you know, be s. Both family sacrificed so much for

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01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 9: me to be where I am today, and I'm just

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01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 9: grateful that they're here to experience it with me.

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01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:55,560
Speaker 8: As you were going through camp, did you feel like

1510
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 8: you put yourself in a good position to make the team.

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01:17:57,800 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 4: It just was your biggest cochus the this summer and.

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01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 9: Biggest thing, you know, one day at a time. Won't

1513
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 9: play at a time for me, that's that was the

1514
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 9: biggest thing to Caze his play. Make a good play,

1515
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 9: make a good another good play, make another good play,

1516
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 9: Stack up a lot of good players. You have a

1517
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 9: good day, and keep doing that. You have a lot

1518
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,760
Speaker 9: of good days. Take advantage of the games, you know,

1519
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,120
Speaker 9: put my best foot forward, go all out, you know,

1520
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 9: And that's my mentality. Just brush trying to get like

1521
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:27,959
Speaker 9: nothing stopped at me mentally, so beaulting that mentally and physically.

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01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 9: That's the that's the struggle we gotta get through.

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01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 4: How much were you on your phone?

1524
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 2: Like were you refreshing Twitter?

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01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 5: Like?

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01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:34,639
Speaker 1: What was that?

1527
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 7: Cause I can only imagine.

1528
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 1: The nerves and all that I did it.

1529
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 9: I did it a few times and I just put

1530
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 9: it down because it was just a lot going on.

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01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 9: So I got back on the phone with my family

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01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:45,680
Speaker 9: and just it just talked to them and reflecting with

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01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 9: them and everything. But yeah, it was a lot.

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01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:51,640
Speaker 1: Well how quickly was the transition of yesterday's joy to

1535
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 1: back to work?

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01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 2: Now now they're trying to fifty three?

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01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 9: But yeah, it's just took a time to reflect. No

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01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 9: praise God, everything be in the moment, next next, next day,

1539
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:05,640
Speaker 9: you know, gotta come in next day, and it's like

1540
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 9: it's like it's been all for the.

1541
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:09,759
Speaker 2: Past few months.

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01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 9: This next day, next day, next play put your best

1543
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 9: foot forward every day. Still it's still a journey to

1544
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 9: continue to get better, learn from mistakes, not me make

1545
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 9: never make the same mistake twice, you know, and keep

1546
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:23,719
Speaker 9: getting better.

1547
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 2: Fare answer a little more unfamiliar with your game, how

1548
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 2: would you describe it?

1549
01:19:29,280 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 9: Play fast, play physical. I go all out, you know,

1550
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 9: give all I need, whatever they need me inside outside

1551
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 9: special teams, rush the passer, you know, stop the run,

1552
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 9: be physical in the run, and that's what I do.

1553
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:45,719
Speaker 2: Ya thinks you're with von On the puppet?

1554
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 5: Is there?

1555
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 9: Since that some of you guys on the D line,

1556
01:19:47,439 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 9: it's the opportunity for you guys to kind of step

1557
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 9: up in and then show out these first four weeks. Yeah,

1558
01:19:52,280 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 9: he's been. He's been, like he's been still being a part,

1559
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 9: big part of the D line. You know, it's always

1560
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 9: in a room, always coaching us, always talking towards on

1561
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 9: the sideline, and when we have an indie, just having

1562
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 9: him there is a lot, you know, so it's just

1563
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 9: great to have him and supporting us and still teaching

1564
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 9: us why he can't go full speed yet, but looking

1565
01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:15,640
Speaker 9: forward to him getting.

1566
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 1: Back, all right. That's Kingsley Jonathan addressing the media after

1567
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 1: practice today, his first practice as a member of the

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01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 1: Bill's fifty three man roster. And if you need to

1569
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 1: know more about his background story, you can go to

1570
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills dot com and find it there. Maddie Glabar

1571
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 1: colleague did a nice piece on him. He moved to

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01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 1: the United States as an adolescent, had a foster family

1573
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,759
Speaker 1: here that was here to sponsor him, and they turned

1574
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 1: out to be the wrong kind of people. Got in

1575
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,320
Speaker 1: Those people were like in trouble with the law. So

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01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:52,200
Speaker 1: they had to find him a separate family to kind

1577
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 1: of take care of him as an adolescent kid, and

1578
01:20:54,960 --> 01:21:00,639
Speaker 1: fortunately they did. But his parents still live in Nigeria overseas.

1579
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,280
Speaker 1: He hasn't seen them since I think about his fourteenth birthday.

1580
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 1: He facetimes them, he talks to them, So imagine what

1581
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 1: that FaceTime call was like when he called them yesterday

1582
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,600
Speaker 1: and said I made the team.

1583
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:17,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's I remember when I did it. It's

1584
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 2: always a big moment, I mean, and it's different for

1585
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 2: him growing up in Nigeria coming over here later in

1586
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 2: life than it is for a guy like us, where

1587
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 2: we grow up in this country watching that sport all

1588
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 2: the time and having heroes in that sport and do it.

1589
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 2: But to come over and look at it for the

1590
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 2: first time and then take it up and be as

1591
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 2: accomplished as he is in such a short time, go

1592
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 2: to a major university and play first of all, and

1593
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 2: then to go to the highest level. I mean there's

1594
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 2: a lot in that. Oh my goodness, Yeah, I mean,

1595
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 2: oh my goodness.

1596
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 1: He even said that, you know, knowing the sacrifices they

1597
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,800
Speaker 1: made for me just to get over here and have

1598
01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:00,639
Speaker 1: an athletic career. He originally wanted to be a basket player.

1599
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,400
Speaker 1: He said, I always feel like the only thing that

1600
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 1: I can give back to them is good news about

1601
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:11,760
Speaker 1: how my career is going as a player. This is

1602
01:22:11,800 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 1: the best news he could have given them in the

1603
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 1: last eight ten years, easily, So to be able to

1604
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:21,640
Speaker 1: deliver that to them yesterday had to be very gratifying

1605
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:23,520
Speaker 1: for him.

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01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 2: As tough a day as it is for coaches and teams,

1607
01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 2: where these guys have sacrificed and worked hard from they

1608
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,600
Speaker 2: have to say goodbye to some of them. Stories like

1609
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:36,120
Speaker 2: Kingsley Jonathan are the good parts. It's the other side

1610
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 2: of that coin, guys who have gone through some stuff

1611
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 2: and made it so as tough as it is to

1612
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:46,759
Speaker 2: say goodbye to some guys who have really worked hard

1613
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,680
Speaker 2: and had the same dream some of those dreams come

1614
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 2: true for other guys, and it's just as cool to

1615
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 2: see that. It's an amazing time in the sport that

1616
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with wins losses. You know what

1617
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:01,679
Speaker 2: I mean, It's pretty amazing.

1618
01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:05,880
Speaker 1: Let's shift to the discussion about the reported practice squad

1619
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 1: signing of linebacker Christian Kirksey, the veteran and former captain

1620
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 1: of the Houston Texan Steve as I mentioned, a guy

1621
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 1: that led that team in tackles last year with one

1622
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty four plays in the middle of the defense.

1623
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 1: He's reportedly going to be signed to Buffalo's practice squad

1624
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 1: officially in a couple of hours. I think at the

1625
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:35,600
Speaker 1: outset of the offseason, Steve, knowing that Tremaine Edmonds was

1626
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 1: not going to be back here, we speculated a lot

1627
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 1: about what they might look to pursue on the open

1628
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 1: market and free agency. They wound up choosing not to

1629
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:49,640
Speaker 1: do that, and we saw how the middle linebacker competition

1630
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 1: played out. They had a tough time finding someone to

1631
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 1: truly separate themselves and stay claim to the position. And

1632
01:23:57,560 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 1: now at the very end, we see a veteran, a

1633
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:06,519
Speaker 1: proven veteran middle linebacker, and Christian Kirksey enter the fray,

1634
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 1: albeit on the practice squad, and just seeing the timing

1635
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,599
Speaker 1: of this, obviously had to come available. But seeing the

1636
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 1: timing of this and knowing that one you have a

1637
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 1: player coming off injury you missed the entire preseason, and

1638
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 1: two Tyrel Dotson who for a period of time was

1639
01:24:25,560 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 1: going back and forth with a veteran an AJ Klein,

1640
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,960
Speaker 1: who didn't even make the roster at the starting spot.

1641
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:35,920
Speaker 1: Christian Kirksey is a heck of a plan. B.

1642
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is. You went back and looked at some

1643
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 2: of his tape from last year and the guy was

1644
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 2: mister defense for those guys last year. No idea why

1645
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 2: it went south for them there for some reason, But

1646
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 2: you look at what happened in the middle linebacker competition

1647
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 2: in training camp. Specter goes down late and he couldn't

1648
01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:00,120
Speaker 2: play in the last game or didn't got hurt in

1649
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 2: the last game, Bernard got hurt early and was out

1650
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 2: of it, and it was Kleine and Dot Dot. Klein

1651
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 2: was just supposed to be a guy who is like

1652
01:25:08,920 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 2: a swing tackle, you know, he's going to be the backup, yeah,

1653
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 2: and insurance plably, all of a sudden he's right in

1654
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 2: the midst of it, taking a ton of reps. Dotson's

1655
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:18,759
Speaker 2: in there, Medakevitch was hurt. He couldn't he couldn't help.

1656
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 2: Uh So it was like Milana was out there with

1657
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:28,800
Speaker 2: everybody right, So it was it was a competition that

1658
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 2: you never really saw anybody except for Dodson being the

1659
01:25:31,439 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 2: only guy standing up in the middle of the whole

1660
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 2: thing the whole time. Nobody else was available. So Dorian Williams,

1661
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 2: the young guy he was, he was in a little

1662
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:43,800
Speaker 2: over his head early in the early going. I think

1663
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 2: he's settled in now. And you saw once the pads

1664
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 2: went on and they started playing games, a few lights

1665
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:53,200
Speaker 2: went on in his head. So he's looking way better.

1666
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 2: So now that's kind of changed. But the competition really

1667
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 2: never took shape the way we thought it was going to.

1668
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 1: Yes, and now I think this becomes an exercise and

1669
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 1: how quickly can Christian Kirksey get a hold and a

1670
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 1: grasp of this defensive scheme under Sean McDermott, Because if

1671
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 1: there is, you can debate his athletic prowess and his

1672
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:23,200
Speaker 1: skill set all you want. What you cannot debate about

1673
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:28,680
Speaker 1: Christian Kirksey is his leadership. This guy is a leader personified.

1674
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 1: And what does coach McDermott talk about all the time

1675
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:34,320
Speaker 1: about that middle linebacker spot. You need a leader who

1676
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 1: has command of the defense and can lead a group

1677
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 1: of men. Kirksey has proven evidence of this in his career,

1678
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 1: So now I believe it becomes an exercise and how

1679
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 1: quickly he can get up to speed in this defensive scheme,

1680
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:50,479
Speaker 1: and perhaps sooner rather than later, he might be pushing

1681
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:55,040
Speaker 1: those two guys on Buffalo's roster right now to get

1682
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:57,560
Speaker 1: some playing time himself at the middle linebacker position. I

1683
01:26:57,560 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be right away, but this is, sir,

1684
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 1: certainly a very very interesting Plan B option for Buffalo

1685
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 1: and a great veteran pickup if in fact, it proves

1686
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 1: accurate that he's going to sign on the practice squad.

1687
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: We take a break here, Steve and I close things

1688
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:14,760
Speaker 1: up next on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health.

1689
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, here we are One

1690
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:34,759
Speaker 1: Bill's Live for one final segment here on a Wednesday.

1691
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:39,720
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and we're expecting to

1692
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 1: get some more tweaks to the fifty three man roster

1693
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 1: here in short order. Practice squad will be announced in

1694
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:50,960
Speaker 1: probably a little bit over an hour. Brandon Bean set

1695
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 1: to address the media at approximately four pm this afternoon,

1696
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 1: so we'll get any and all updates on that, so

1697
01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 1: be sure to stay tuned to Buffalo bills dot com

1698
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 1: for updates there. I gotta say, I'm I'm intrigued by

1699
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,080
Speaker 1: the k the reported Kirksey m too.

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01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 2: I mean, he'll have two weeks to get up to speed,

1701
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:14,840
Speaker 2: and they don't need to activate him from the practice

1702
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 2: squad or anything like that. He can practice and go

1703
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 2: hard and if he gets ready, that's fine. If it

1704
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 2: takes him a few weeks, that's fine. Obviously they got

1705
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:25,919
Speaker 2: a plan for that guy. That'll be interesting.

1706
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, the trajectory of his time here is going to

1707
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:34,440
Speaker 1: bear very close watching he actually turns thirty one tomorrow.

1708
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 1: And then the other reported addition will be Jermaine Affetti,

1709
01:28:41,439 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 1: the veteran offensive tackle former first round pick of the

1710
01:28:44,200 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 1: Seahawks in twenty sixteen, kind of help shore up what

1711
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: was lost in the unexpected retirement of Brandon Shell. So right,

1712
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 1: So that's kind of where it sits.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's all this will be shakeout in the next

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Speaker 2: two hours or so, and even through the next week.

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Speaker 2: They'll they'll still tweak it. They might not only they

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Speaker 2: might not get us sixteen today, they probably won't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see. That's it for us here for a

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Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of One Bill's Live. We do want to

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Speaker 1: remind you that tomorrow we have some interesting guests lined

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Speaker 1: up for the show, including Jordan Palmer, the off season

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Speaker 1: quarterback guru for one, Josh Allen, and in case you

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Speaker 1: didn't know it, he also works with Kyle Allen. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to Jordan tomorrow about both those quarterbacks here on

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Speaker 1: a Thursday edition of One Bill's Live. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: tomorrow at one