1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotlieb Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five, 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Foxsports Radio dot com, 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: by searching apps car. 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 2: Welcome man on this Thursday. It is the Doug Gottlieb Show. 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 3: Don't worry. 9 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 2: Doug's gonna be here tomorrow. Is gonna say everything that 10 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: he has to say about what he said last night. 11 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: So the future of the Doug Gottlieb Show, the future 12 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 2: of the Green Bay basketball program, and so much more. 13 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 3: Doug, We'll be back tomorrow. 14 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: Until then, you got me and Aaron right now, plus 15 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: Jason Stewart's hanging out our executive producer Iowa, Sam Isaac Lowancroan. 16 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: Have you heard about trainer games? Add this to your 17 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: binge list. Ten athletes go head to head for the 18 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: chance to win an iFIT trainer contract worth two hundred 19 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: and fifty thousand dollars. Streaming on Prime Video starting January eighth. 20 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: It is a Thursday week sixteen starts tonight. Rams and 21 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: Seahawks Really really good game, game with a lot of stakes. 22 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 2: And for the Rams, I don't know. Things have been 23 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: going their way this week. 24 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: Something. 25 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: We'll get into it in about twenty minutes or so. 26 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: But Aaron, we are just two weeks away from New 27 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: Year's Day, and not only does that mean the quarterfinals 28 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: of the college football Playoff, but it also means a 29 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: brand new year. So for the final time this year, 30 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: let's throw it back. 31 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 4: You don't call it a throwback Thursday. 32 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 3: Now, eron. I think you're going to be here on 33 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 3: the Doug Gottlieb Show on Christmas. 34 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 5: Day, but you probably won't be doing this. 35 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: I hand it over to Jason Stewart. 36 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 5: Thank you, Dan. 37 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 6: I'll take it from here. 38 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 4: God, I'll take it from here. 39 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 6: Twenty twenty five. Let's look all the way back. I 40 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 6: want each of you to present on this program. What 41 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 6: the story that most got your attention. I need one story. 42 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 6: Don't stam it up and give me more than one. 43 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 6: I need one story. Let's dig deep down into it 44 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 6: and I will start twenty twenty five. If you think 45 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 6: about the year, the most significant thing that happened in 46 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 6: our space, Talk Space was the trade of Luka Doncic 47 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 6: and I say that what made it so extraordinary is 48 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 6: because when Shams Shams tweeted out the news, it was 49 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 6: late on a Saturday night, Aaron tors Is probably on 50 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 6: the air, probably on the air, and insiders in sports 51 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 6: thought it was a farcical tweet, like somebody hacked his account. 52 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 6: In this day and age, for a trade of that 53 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 6: size to be pulled off seemingly with zero leaks, it 54 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 6: was just so unws usual. And then the you know, 55 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 6: the downstream impact of that since then, that has led 56 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 6: to the Nico Harrison thang. And I think the most 57 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 6: significant occurrence, if not the decade, if we want to 58 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 6: expand this out four or five years, the Luca Doncis trade. 59 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 6: Howen went down? You guys have any thoughts on any 60 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 6: personal experience of that one? 61 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 7: Can I can I jump in and just tell you 62 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 7: what it was like in this building. I want to 63 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 7: know that guy, so keep in mind. So I host 64 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 7: eight to eleven, it was about nine thirty Eastern. Jason Martin, 65 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 7: who's my radio partner, is not on social media. He 66 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 7: does not use social media, like he's decided that's not 67 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 7: part of his life anymore. So I see it, I say, 68 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 7: I forget who was even producing me at that time. 69 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 7: Maybe it was Bri, it was I don't know if 70 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 7: it was Bri. And I said, Bri, can you please 71 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 7: get with Steve Disager and have him check Shams Charania's account. 72 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 7: So do Seger checks it and immediately goes live with 73 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 7: Schamshranias saying this, and I was like, I. 74 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 5: Wouldn't have even done that. 75 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 7: Do it live, And we kept refraining from saying this 76 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 7: is a news story. We were saying this is on 77 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 7: Shamscherania's account until on ESPN they were citing Shams Trani, 78 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 7: which was like a. 79 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 5: Twenty minute window. 80 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 7: We were all like, listen, there is a report on 81 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 7: Shams Trania's Twitter page. We don't know if it's real 82 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 7: or not that Luka Doncic has been traded to the 83 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 7: Los Angeles Lakers, and we were looking for any sort 84 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 7: of confirmation and to your point, and I hope this 85 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 7: doesn't sound like I'm throwing this individual under the buzz 86 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 7: because I love him to death. I would have him 87 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 7: on any show I ever hosted. We had Mark Medina 88 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 7: on later that night, who was as plugged in the 89 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 7: NBA as anybody, And I said, was this something that 90 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 7: was even whispered behind the scenes, and he said, Aaron, 91 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 7: you know, I don't want to speak for Mark, but 92 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 7: he said, no one that in my circles had any 93 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 7: idea that this was even a possibility. So it took 94 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 7: us twenty minute of us just basically saying Shams is 95 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 7: tweeting this, but we don't know if it's true, before 96 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 7: we actually went on air saying Luka Doncic has been 97 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 7: traded for Anthony Davis. 98 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 5: It was insane. 99 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 2: It was a remember where you were moment, and I 100 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: remember I was sitting in my recliner and it popped up. 101 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 2: I actually think I may have been on Twitter. I 102 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 2: just know I was on the recliner and then I 103 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 2: remember staring at the tweet reading Luka Doncic to the Lakers, 104 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: and I, just as someone who is not a Lakers fan, 105 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: I've never cheered for the Lakers, and I liked Luca, 106 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: it was it was disheartening. And then when you take 107 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: took a step back and examined the whole trade and 108 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: the people trying to convince you that this was a 109 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: win for the Mavericks, what are. 110 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: We talking about? 111 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 2: And then the only thing to save them ended up 112 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: being the lottery with Cooper Flagg. But where you look 113 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: at where they are this year and now you're gonna 114 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: You're banking on an injured Kyrie to come back, and 115 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 2: you're trying to get Anthony Davis out of town, like, 116 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 2: uh it is. I I agree with Jason that I 117 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 2: think it is the top story. I think there's there's 118 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 2: other good ones, but for the most shocking, for the 119 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: ramifications for what we still talk about to this day, 120 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 2: and giving the Lakers the superstar that they needed to 121 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: replace Lebron James, which is a whole other angle. I 122 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: think it's a very very good uh nominee if there 123 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 2: are even our other nominees for Story of twenty twenty five. 124 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, and two more things on that note, the Lakers 125 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 7: had played that night against the Knicks, so that was 126 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 7: another crazy part because we were talking about the game 127 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 7: and then uh, there was something else I can't remember, 128 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 7: but it was just in Sandy Dan, do you want 129 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 7: to share yours next time? I stole the mic just 130 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 7: talking about Jay SEUs. 131 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 2: No, that's that's I think that Jason's is a really 132 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 2: good point to no apologies, no apologies needed. So there 133 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: there was I'll just say this. Rory McElroy winning the 134 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 2: Masters was a story that was fourteen years in the 135 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: making and some may say ten years in the making. 136 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: But Rory even said it himself that going back to 137 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 2: when in twenty eleven when he blew the lead that 138 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 2: he had on the Sunday at Augusta National, that this 139 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: just wasn't about completing the career Grand Slam. This was 140 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 2: more than that, and I took a still shot of it. 141 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: I still actually have the final round of the Masters 142 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: on my DVR, and I've got another, i think like 143 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: CBS two Sports Central episode after because remember, Rory went 144 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: into a playoff with Justin Rose, and Justin Rose has 145 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: been close multiple times at Augusta. 146 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: He's only one one. 147 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 2: Major, so you have these two guys who you're actually 148 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: both rooting for. But honestly, Rory has been such the 149 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 2: story in golf for so long that him finally breaking 150 00:07:54,920 --> 00:08:00,119 Speaker 2: through and winning a Green jacket, to me, is the 151 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 2: story that stood out to me in twenty twenty five, 152 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: on a year where Scotty Scheffler won two of the 153 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: four majors, It's Rory finally winning out Augusta and winning 154 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 2: the Green jacket. 155 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 6: And you know that it was one of those things 156 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 6: in sports that resonated everywhere, because I who's not a 157 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 6: huge golf guy, obviously follow the majors. But everybody had 158 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 6: an opinion on this, and you know, like all the 159 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 6: traditional boot check marks on Twitter had their thoughts and 160 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 6: it was it ran ninety nine percent positive, like everyone 161 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 6: was just rooting for Rory, and I remember thinking, as 162 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 6: probably one of the only people out there, I was 163 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 6: actually rooting for Justin Rose that day. I for two reasons. 164 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 6: Justin Rose had played well and he was a great 165 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 6: quote too. Through the entire weekend. I thought he handed 166 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 6: himself so well. And then I root for prolonged agony. 167 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 6: And this speaks to my me being an evil person. 168 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 6: I guess I was rooting for a prolonged and that 169 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 6: it's a much better story that Rory never wins some 170 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 6: Masters than him just kind of winning one eventually, if 171 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 6: that makes sense. 172 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: Totally does I think that. 173 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: I think that Phil Mickelson at the US Open, Uh, 174 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: it just became it just like, stop stop doing this 175 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 2: to us, stop doing this to me anymore. And I 176 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: wondered if it was going to get to that point 177 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 2: with Rory of of him and then him finally breaking through. 178 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 2: I still have the string the screen grabs that I 179 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: took during the Masters on my phone where they're showing 180 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 2: him on the green and it says for career Grand Slam. 181 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: Like the putt that he's about to make. It's not 182 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 2: like four birdie for par and it's for the career 183 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 2: Grand Slam. And it's one of the things that I'll 184 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 2: I'll remember for a long long time. That's why it 185 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 2: stands out so much in twenty twenty five, Aaron, what 186 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: stands out for you? 187 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 5: All right? 188 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 7: So I won't do the sam There's one that I 189 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 7: was there for, which was Houston Duke College basketball is 190 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 7: one of the craziest games I've ever been a part of. 191 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 7: But for the sake of this conversation, I will go 192 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 7: with what I deem to be the second craziest story 193 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 7: of twenty twenty five behind Luka Doncic's trade, and that 194 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 7: is Shador Sanders draft fall. You talk about a three 195 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 7: day where were you and correct me if I'm wrong, guys, 196 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 7: But the conversation going into the draft was that the 197 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 7: floor for Shador Sanders was twenty one to the Pittsburgh Steelers. 198 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 7: It was like if all hell breaks loose, the Steelers 199 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 7: need a quarterback, they're gonna take them, and so to 200 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 7: go through the first round. He goes undrafted, spend all 201 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 7: day third Friday talking about what's gonna happen on Friday 202 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 7: with Shador, only for him to go undrafted into Saturday 203 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 7: and just to really have no context in the moment 204 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 7: as to what was going on. It was pretty surreal 205 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 7: to see that happen for a guy that for most 206 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 7: of the draft process felt like he probably wasn't gonna 207 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 7: be the first quarterback off the board, but was going 208 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 7: in the top ten. 209 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 5: Do you agree? 210 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 2: I agree, I agree. We're still talking about it. It 211 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 2: still will be a conversation. That's a very that. By 212 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: the way, it didn't even not that it didn't register. 213 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: I just I didn't think of it, and I'm I'm 214 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: I wish I did. That's a really good nominee. 215 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 5: But you're the week. 216 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 6: We were talking earlier in the week, how there's a 217 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 6: there's still ramifications today, and I think one of the 218 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 6: like sad consequences of it is that cam Ward never 219 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 6: got his love before the draft, after the draft, and 220 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 6: still to this day, cam Ward is not getting any attention. 221 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 6: It's Shader is sucking up the oxygen in this rookie class. 222 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,439 Speaker 5: Of course, it was incredible. 223 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 8: We even had a Chadur moment during game time for 224 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 8: I feel a draft when the Indiana Hoosiers fell to 225 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 8: who drafted Isaac at what? Number five? So yeah, there 226 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 8: you go. It'll be a reference point for history for 227 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 8: the end of time. 228 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 3: That's the same. 229 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 5: It was very much the same. It was just. 230 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 7: It was two full days of like, what are we 231 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 7: all missing? Cause again the floor was okay, no matter 232 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 7: what happens, the Steelers will be taking him. And I 233 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 7: believe that the pick was twenty one, and I think 234 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 7: there was thought could he go to New Orleans? Could 235 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 7: he go to the Browns and number three, number four 236 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 7: whatever they were drafting, And so all night Thursday was 237 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 7: like what happened? But the presumption was I think the 238 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 7: presumption was he's gonna be like the first guy drafted 239 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 7: on Friday, somebody's gonna trade up for him. Nobody drafts 240 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 7: some Thursday or Friday. Again I'm stealing the mic, or 241 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 7: nobody drafts some Friday all day in the second and 242 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 7: third round. But just surreal in the moment and to 243 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 7: your guys point ramifications throughout. 244 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 3: Agreed. 245 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 2: I just want to before we get to Sam and Isaac, 246 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: it was a boring draft heading into it. 247 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: Yep, it really was. And it was the only story 248 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 3: of the draft. 249 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: Like there were there were just weren't really many storylines 250 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: to follow outside of him. 251 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 3: And then he carried the. 252 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: Entire weekend, Poor Cam Worrid, Isaac, Sam, Isaac, what do 253 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 2: you got? 254 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm gonna go with October twenty third, and that 255 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 9: was the morning where the FEDS crashed in and took 256 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 9: into custody a sitting NBA head coach in shaunby Phillips. Yeah, 257 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 9: and Terry Rozier of the Miami Heat. You know, I think, 258 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 9: in of itself as individual cases, it was enormous news, 259 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 9: but I think it was sort of a signature moment 260 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 9: in what the future potential has in store in the 261 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 9: relationship between sports and gambling. And I I think it's 262 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 9: gonna go either one of two ways. Either there's going 263 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 9: to be an even bigger scandal down the road with 264 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 9: people getting busted for directly influencing sporting events allah the 265 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 9: Black Sox scandal in nineteen nineteen, or and I hope 266 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 9: this is the case, But I don't necessarily think it's 267 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 9: going to be the case. It'll wise up people in sports, 268 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 9: players and coaches to not get involved in gambling because 269 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 9: you know you're gonna get busted. I doubt it's going 270 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 9: to be that, but I at least hope it's going 271 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 9: to be that. But I think that was really a 272 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 9: red letter day October twenty third great. 273 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: So when the Jontay Porter stuff came out last year, 274 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: it was like, okay, whatever. When I saw Terry Rosier 275 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: fake like he was, he was faking the injury, like 276 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: you could see him on the bench pretending to rub 277 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: his calf in ankle from the game that he ended 278 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: up you know, ducking out of in twenty twenty three. 279 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: To see the video of how he was trying. When 280 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: have you ever seen an injured NBA player rub their 281 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 2: injury during a game, right Like never they're either in 282 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: the locker room, they're getting checked out by trainers, their 283 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 2: foot's isolated, it's wrapped up. But he was trying to 284 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: sell it so much that he was pretending to tend 285 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: to his own ankle on the bench of the game 286 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 2: that he tried to fix for his friends. 287 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 10: Looked like my third grader when he was trying to 288 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 10: get out of school. My tummy hurts, my throat hurts. 289 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 6: I think that's funny that Isaac brings that up, because 290 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 6: I think I have I have mixed feelings on that 291 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 6: being a memorable story and that I don't think it 292 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 6: was memorable enough. In other words, it was a part 293 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 6: the news cycle. It was definitely a part of our world. 294 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 6: But I think because everyone is so bought and sold 295 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 6: by gambling companies, I don't think enough attention has been 296 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 6: I think a lot of people wanted to go away. 297 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 6: I think, you know, Sports Center would be like, yeah, 298 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 6: no update on the Terry Rogier situation. This segment brought 299 00:15:59,720 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 6: to you. 300 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 9: And that literally happened while they were discussing the story. 301 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 9: The lower third graphic was a gambling advertisement. 302 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 5: It did happen. 303 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 7: I mean, to your point, Jay stew sitting NBA head 304 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 7: coach giving out information on players who are not going 305 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:17,359 Speaker 7: to play. 306 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 5: Is a huge deal. 307 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 7: And I still don't think And by the way, it 308 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 7: was also Chauncey Billups, mister big shot like wholesome, you know, 309 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 7: nicest literally has a one hundred percent approval rating. Oh yeah, 310 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 7: he's playing in underground gambling rings with secret card stashes. 311 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 7: And I agree with you. I actually felt like it 312 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 7: wasn't discussed enough. Not to say that it wasn't memorable, 313 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 7: but just not discussed enough. 314 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 3: So I'll say it. 315 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 8: Let's go back to February ninth of this year. It 316 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 8: maybe is true that the Philadelphia Eagles did kill the 317 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 8: Kansas City Chiefs. Now, I know a lot of things 318 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 8: played into the Chief's demise, aging veterans, you know, maybe 319 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 8: not enough skill position players of quality, But that forty 320 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 8: to twenty two route by the Eagles, which nobody saw coming, 321 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 8: it just it. It took the Chiefs down another level, 322 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 8: and it signified that the Chiefs were just not the 323 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 8: same team that they were in the past. You know, 324 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 8: seven to ten years it's the peak of the Chiefs. 325 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 8: You were not seeing them get routed like that, You 326 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 8: just weren't. You were seeing them get getting a lot 327 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 8: of wins in close one possession games, the ball bouncing 328 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 8: their way. But today, but that day, that Sunday in February, 329 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 8: the Eagles just took it all out on the Chiefs. 330 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 8: And this year, the rest of the ball of yarn 331 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 8: just completely unwound it and it was capped by you know, 332 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 8: Patrick Mahomes's season ending injury just this past Sunday. So 333 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 8: perhaps the demise of the Chiefs started all the way 334 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 8: back at Super Bowl fifty nine in February, and we're 335 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 8: seeing them completely bottom out right now. 336 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 7: I think it was a preview of the symptoms that 337 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:53,640 Speaker 7: would come this year. 338 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 5: I totally agree. That's a good way to put it. 339 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 6: Question for you, guys, what do you think resonated more 340 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 6: in this country from February ninth, the Eagles dismantling of 341 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 6: the Chiefs to win the Super Bowl or the Kendrick 342 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 6: Gumar performance. 343 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 8: That's actually a good question because his performance did make 344 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 8: a lot of lot of waves. 345 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 2: I think now the game does, but the performance had 346 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 2: a lot more in the short term afterwards, which I 347 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: did not expect. But now as we look at the Chiefs, 348 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: as we look at heck, even the Eagles, but really 349 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 2: from the Chiefs, I think the game has more of the. 350 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 6: Lasting of it. 351 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 10: I think the Janet Jackson justin Timberlake might have had 352 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 10: a different answer back in the day, even though that 353 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 10: was a game that was decided at a last second 354 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 10: field goal. 355 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 5: I don't remember that part. Yeah, that last part I don't. 356 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 10: Remember YouTube and off company time. 357 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 5: I do know that. 358 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 6: Janet Jackson changed the industry. So, speaking of music fellas, 359 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 6: this song really took off. And here's an interesting tidbit 360 00:18:55,200 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 6: that I just read on Wikipedia. There is a hit 361 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 6: pop artist name what's her name? Chappelle Rone, Chapel Roone, 362 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 6: Chapel Roane. 363 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 10: Isn't that where North Carolina Tario's nevermind? 364 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 5: She did you call her hip hop artist? Uh? 365 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 3: It was? 366 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 8: She a pop pop singer? Yeah, okay, cool. I don't 367 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 8: think she raps. 368 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 6: I obviously know a lot about this. And she did 369 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 6: a song back in twenty twenty and it kind of 370 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 6: went it kind of went nowhere, and then she performed 371 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 6: it at the Grammys this year, and then it just 372 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 6: became the biggest song of twenty twenty five. And it 373 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 6: goes something like this. Pink Pony Club was at the 374 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 6: top of the charts for sixteen weeks of twenty twenty five. 375 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 6: I think each of our ages takes us out of 376 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 6: the demographic of the people that loved this song, but 377 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 6: I could be wrong. Dan Byer always surprises me with 378 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 6: his music tastes. Did anybody here have an experience with 379 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 6: pink Pony Club this year. 380 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 3: I did. 381 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 10: It started about thirty seconds ago. 382 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 2: You know what, I I did not know this song 383 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 2: when it came out, but through whether it be you 384 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: know whatever, how it became popular. I had heard the song, 385 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 2: my wife knew the song. I remember most about those 386 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 2: and I'm using air quotes here. The journalists that were 387 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 2: on a red carpet and they were talking to Babyface 388 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: and one of the girls completely just interrupted the interview 389 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: and was like, oh my gosh, just Chapelerone, get Chapel Roone. 390 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 2: And Babyface was totally disrespected from this, and these idiot 391 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 2: reporters completely disrespected him. Later I had to apologize for it, 392 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 2: but I'm like, really, you're gonna disc Babyface for Chapel Roone. 393 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 3: It just didn't make any sense to me. 394 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 7: This song is about as memorable to me as Chelsea 395 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 7: Phillips getting arrested on a Tuesday in October. 396 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 8: So I do know it was a big song because 397 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 8: during the Stanley Cup playoffs, or maybe it was the 398 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 8: Standley Cup Finals, the song was brought up by the 399 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 8: panelists between periods like Wayne Gretzky was there and then 400 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 8: the three or four other guys with him someone brought 401 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 8: up the song and I'm like, Okay, I know this 402 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 8: is a big song because it has pervaded the panel 403 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 8: of NHL talking heads. 404 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 5: That's how big it is. 405 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 3: It was very popular. 406 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 6: Now I don't think I don't think that there is 407 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 6: a movie person in this group besides Sam and I. 408 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 6: So I'm going to skip that and go right to 409 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 6: what the the largest or the most binged TV series 410 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 6: was of the year. And you guys tell me if 411 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 6: any of these resonate with you. Okay, White Lotus, I 412 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 6: think it was his third season of White Lotus, second 413 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 6: season of Severance that hit really big. A show called 414 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:54,439 Speaker 6: The Pit on Max the former lead and er is 415 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,959 Speaker 6: on that. I forget his name, something Noah Noah Wiley 416 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 6: maybe or something like that. Alien Alien Earth, and Squid 417 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 6: Game the second season. Do you guys remember any of those? 418 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 6: Did you have? We all binge to those? 419 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 3: I'm an over on those shows. 420 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 8: Actually I'm too, so wow ouch. I was told White 421 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 8: Lotus was so good. 422 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 7: So I started from the beginning, and about one and 423 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 7: a half episodes in of season one, I was like, 424 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 7: I'm out, this is totally uninteresting. 425 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 6: It takes a lot of patience. It's slow moving. Yeah, 426 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 6: I can see where you can do that. 427 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 5: Darn. 428 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 6: So you guys didn't watch TV or go to the movies. 429 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 6: So we we just did a lot of sports and 430 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 6: didn't listen to uh to Pink? Was that Pink Babylon? 431 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: Was that all? 432 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: I don't want to speak for Isaac, and I know 433 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 2: I can't speak for Aaron, and. 434 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 10: Actually, you know what, you can speak for me in 435 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 10: this case, I trust. 436 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 2: You since having a child, in an Isaac's case children, 437 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 2: my TV viewing hierarchy is now really only sports. Like 438 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 2: if I'm not watching sorts for a game or a 439 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 2: pregame or a draft, I am at the mercy of 440 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 2: the family. 441 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 10: He nailed it. Unless Peppa Peg and Blippy qualify there. 442 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 3: Right, same thing. 443 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 8: Blue It's either or the Blue Jays, you know, you 444 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 8: know whatever it might be Toronto Blues, Toronto Bluies. 445 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 2: Sure it really has and I was not. I knew 446 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 2: that there would be adjustments. I knew that there would 447 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 2: be school events on nights of their sporting events, but 448 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 2: I did not realize on how much it would take 449 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 2: a part of TV viewing, of sitting back and catching 450 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 2: up on a show or watching a show, or to 451 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: be able to follow along with that binging show. It 452 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 2: is something that truly truly missed. I've said it on 453 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 2: this show. The only show that me and my wife 454 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: watch at its normal time is Survivor. Last night was 455 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 2: a finale and she crashed out at like eight thirty, 456 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 2: so thirty minutes in. 457 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 3: That's that's where we were. 458 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 8: It's tough, crashed out. Nice use of twenty twenty five 459 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 8: gen Z Lingo. 460 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 3: Man, it was cinema. 461 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 2: It was true in a cinema, and that's don't call 462 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 2: it a throwback. 463 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 4: Don't call it a throwback. 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I want to get to that game and 474 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 2: the pookin the coua stuff. In about ten minutes or so, 475 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: we'll have a discussion. But tomorrow the college football playoff 476 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 2: kicks off, and Aaron Torres you live, eat, sleep, breathe, live, 477 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 2: college football, college basketball. I think Iowa Sam is the 478 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 2: same way. I consider myself an enormous college football fan, 479 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 2: and yet I don't know if the first round has 480 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 2: registered any sort of excitement for me, as we're now 481 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 2: a little more than twenty four hours away of this 482 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 2: bracket getting underway. 483 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 7: So I have a theory, and I think it's beyond 484 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 7: just the teams in it and the matchups. But I'm 485 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 7: open to if Sam has any thoughts, if you have 486 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 7: any thoughts, But I think part of it is specific matchups, 487 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 7: but I think there's something a little bit bigger. Sam 488 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 7: looks busy, So you think it's matchup based? Is that 489 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 7: from communicating with you off air? 490 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 2: The you know, I think that the the matchups of 491 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 2: not only with the group of five, but the actual 492 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 2: matchups that we have set do not cause any interest. 493 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 2: I don't think that they promote interest. Alabama Oklahoma is 494 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 2: a not only is it a conference game, it is 495 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 2: a rematch of a game that we already had. And 496 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 2: for as much as I think that we look at 497 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 2: the YOU as a national program, I don't know if 498 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 2: the U draws enough interest. 499 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 3: Now. 500 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 2: A and M is an interesting team, but they're also 501 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: an SEC team, and so even Miami Texas A and M, 502 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 2: which I think is going to be a fun game 503 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 2: and I think probably the most interesting of the four. 504 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 2: For that to be your headliner, I think kind of 505 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 2: puts you behind the eight ball if you're college football. 506 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 7: Okay, So I don't necessarily disagree with a lot of it. 507 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 7: I think there are two bigger picture issues. First of all, 508 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 7: and this is something that as you know, we're gonna 509 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,239 Speaker 7: continue this playoff conversation. I don't think they figured out 510 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 7: the TV schedule like like, and I understand the NFL 511 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 7: has played on Saturdays in December as long as I've 512 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 7: been watching. 513 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 5: I don't know the exact number, but. 514 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 7: It's like you kind of it's like they you have 515 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 7: the conference championship games, and then the sport just goes 516 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 7: out of sight, out of mind. I think that's part 517 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 7: of it too, is I think in our brains we 518 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 7: default to, oh, college football ended in the conference championship weekend, 519 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 7: we have nothing until New Year's Eve, New Year's Day. 520 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 7: I can focus on other stuff. And I could tell you, 521 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 7: as even somebody who loves college football, like, in my head, 522 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 7: if you just told me time between end of regular 523 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 7: season or conference championships or whatever and start of the playoff, 524 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 7: in my head, it's this big barren wasteland of like 525 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 7: three weeks. And in reality it's basically like ten days, 526 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 7: because you spend a day or two talking about the bracket, 527 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 7: and then you spend a day or two previewing, and boom, 528 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 7: that's like ten days. So to me, I think I 529 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 7: just think that college football fans are conditioned to like, hey, 530 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 7: take the month of December off, don't even worry about it. 531 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 5: We'll be back. 532 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 7: We'll have some good games around the new year. And 533 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 7: I just think coming back. And I'm not saying it's 534 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 7: wrong to come back this weekend. I'm just saying I 535 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 7: think that's the bigger issue. I just don't think people 536 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 7: are conditioned to be like, oh, yeah, that's right, there's 537 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 7: playoff games this weekend, and I don't know, I just 538 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 7: feel like there's been no buzz at all. 539 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 2: So you think that last week's kind of breakof would 540 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 2: you rather be continuous from the conference championship games or 541 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 2: have everything start January first, because that's what we were 542 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 2: accustomed to. 543 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a great question. 544 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 7: I definitely don't think the answer is pushing anything back 545 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 7: if we're gonna have four rounds, you know, And I 546 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 7: said this last year. I'm as big of a college 547 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 7: football fan as anybody, but I remember, I think it 548 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 7: was the week before the Ohio State Notre Dame game. 549 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 5: It was that Monday. 550 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,719 Speaker 7: The Sunday before was that Big Bill's Ravens Conference semi 551 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 7: final game, the Divisional round game, And I remember being 552 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 7: more fired up for Bill's raven than I was for 553 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 7: Ohio State Notre Dame. And so I don't think the 554 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 7: answer is keep pushing things back. I think the answer 555 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 7: is probably one. I think we just have to eliminate 556 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 7: conference championship games at this point, they just don't have 557 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 7: the value that they once did. And then I think 558 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 7: you do just have to keep it going. Maybe there's 559 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 7: a way to, you know, give the top teams a 560 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 7: buy that one week or whatever, but yeah, I think 561 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 7: you just kind of keep it going. And I know 562 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 7: it's crazy to go straight into the postseason, I know, whatever, 563 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 7: but I think that's really the only answer at this point. 564 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 2: I think college football is a lot like baseball, and 565 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 2: I mean this in a good way. Like people thought 566 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 2: that baseball was dying in baseball as it was thriving 567 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: on a local level, a regional level. Yet if you 568 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 2: don't have the Dodgers in a World Series, maybe your 569 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: ending is kind of ho hum. And I feel that 570 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: while we have a lot of top programs in college football, 571 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: there are just there are some that just move the 572 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 2: needle and some don't. Like Texas AM now is what 573 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 2: Texas A and M is one of the top teams 574 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 2: in the SEC. Doug has been on the record for 575 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 2: saying if he had to pick a coaching job, he'd 576 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 2: probably of any in college football, he'd probably go to 577 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 2: A and M because of what that school and how 578 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: much they love football and how much they they backed 579 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 2: the sport. He's said that on this show. But like 580 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 2: Texas A and M isn't one of those schools that's 581 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: going to grab the country's attention. And I know, and 582 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 2: you just used Ohio State Notre Dame, where I think 583 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 2: that you could make an argument that those are the 584 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 2: two biggest schools but I'm not sure that they are, 585 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: which then Len lends me to the point of I'm 586 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: not sure if college football's national championship game has ever 587 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: been as big as we thought it was. 588 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 5: Sure, totally fair, I agree with that. 589 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 2: And I think it's it's, you know, maybe once every 590 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,520 Speaker 2: five years we get a national championship that resonates, but 591 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 2: in other times it doesn't. And so we were still 592 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 2: maybe trying to figure out a way to get out 593 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 2: of Rose Bowl mode, get out of Fiesta Bowl mode, 594 00:30:58,480 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 2: or whatever. 595 00:30:58,960 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 3: The case is. 596 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 2: But I think that the only way to do that 597 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 2: is to have intriguing first round games on home sites 598 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 2: with schools that would never play each other on those 599 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: sites if they know in the regular season. And so 600 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 2: that's why I thought last year's Tennessee, Ohio State game 601 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 2: was so big, and even Indiana Notre Dame because of 602 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 2: the in state ramifications, and that was the Friday night 603 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 2: game leading up to the tripleheader. But I think that 604 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 2: those are the games that will will interest in draw interest. 605 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 2: Would I don't know what you can do when you 606 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 2: have so many SEC schools in there, but like college basketball, 607 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: can rearrange seating and you can move a team maybe 608 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,959 Speaker 2: a spot here, or move them in their region if 609 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 2: they're an eight seed, because you want to avoid a 610 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 2: rematch or you want to avoid conference opponents. You can't 611 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 2: do that with only twelve spots and really only eight 612 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 2: spots in the college football seating. You can't move Oklahoma 613 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 2: and Alabama away from each other for a possible rematch, 614 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 2: which it is, because there's just too much at stake. 615 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,239 Speaker 2: And I think that's what hurts college football. But if 616 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 2: you gave me a Big ten at ACC and SEC 617 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 2: at Big ten matchup, a Big twelve team home to 618 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 2: a Big ten team in the first round, I think 619 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 2: that those would resonate. I just don't think any of 620 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 2: these games really do because of who's playing ooh and where? 621 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, all, I'll say really quick and I'd be curious 622 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 7: about this is and I'll just be very very quick 623 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 7: your perspective. If Notre Dame, so let's say Miami is 624 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 7: in the ACC championship game, put away all the tie breakers, right, 625 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 7: they're in this this event. We still have A and 626 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 7: M Notre Dame, or we still have A and M. Yeah, 627 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 7: A A and M Miami. We now have Notre Dame 628 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 7: at Old Miss. Does that now become the most intriguing game. 629 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 7: Do we care more? Okay, and I think so too, 630 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 7: But go ahead and say, what are you gonna say? 631 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 2: No, I just I agree with you. I think it 632 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 2: absolutely does. Ole Miss Tulane is is a is a rematch. 633 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 2: People don't even realize, like it's why why should Almiss 634 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 2: have to play the game? Why you'd Oklahoma have to 635 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 2: play the game? Aside from it being uninteresting? I don't 636 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 2: even think it's fair for those schools. So I think 637 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 2: Notre Dame Olemiss would have been a much more intriguing matchup. 638 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 2: It would have been the game of the week. Sure 639 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 2: in my mind. 640 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 7: No, I agree, and I we don't have to do 641 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 7: the G five conversation now. I think they deserve a 642 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 7: spot at the table. I think the acc screwing up 643 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 7: their tiebreakers really was what has led us to where 644 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 7: we are right now. You and I will be filling 645 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 7: in throughout the month, well, plenty of time to have 646 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 7: that conversation. 647 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 4: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug 648 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 4: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on 649 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 650 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 2: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports radio. He's erin Torres, I'm 651 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 2: Dan Byer, Jason Stewart is here as his Iowa Sam 652 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 2: and Isaac Loewenkron. Have you heard about trainer games? Add 653 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 2: this year Binge list ten athletes go head to head 654 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: for the chance to win an iFIT trainer contract with 655 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, streaming on Prime Video 656 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 2: starting January eighth. It is the Rams and Seahawks Tonight, Aaron, 657 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 2: but Puka Nakua is grabbing all of the headlines, and 658 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 2: not in a good way. First things first, this was 659 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:16,319 Speaker 2: Puka talking about the NFL's officiating and specifically the referees 660 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 2: when he appeared on Aiden Ross's stream on Tuesday night. 661 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 2: Because there's just something the rules aren't Then, like, these 662 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 2: guys want to be These guys are lawyers, and like Rether, 663 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 2: they want. 664 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 3: To be on TV too, brother, like the game, you 665 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 3: don't think he's He's texting his friends. 666 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 2: In the group chat, Like yo, you guys just saw 667 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: me Sunday night football Like that was Like that wasn't 668 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 2: p I like, but I called. 669 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 4: It was serious. I mean, these guys are noble human 670 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 4: beings too. 671 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 3: Okay, that's ridiculous. 672 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 2: I understand that there's bad calls aeron, but to sit 673 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 2: there and say they're going to call penalties because they 674 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 2: told their boys their lawyer chat group that they're going 675 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 2: to be on TV is It's just it's idiot beyond 676 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 2: any means. 677 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't. I don't really have a ton to 678 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 7: add outside of that. I mean, obviously I had seen 679 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 7: the video, I had seen the quotes and heard the 680 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 7: quotes and all that. You're you're allowed to be frustrated 681 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 7: with the refs, but the notion to your point that 682 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 7: it's one big opportunity to kind of get your face 683 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 7: in the spotlight feels a little bit ridiculous to me. 684 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 2: I would also say that if Pooka Nakuah were to 685 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 2: say I'm a wide receiver, I have no idea what 686 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 2: pass interference is, we could get We could get on 687 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 2: board with that, right, We could understand if he said 688 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 2: something to the effect of there are times when I've 689 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 2: been you know, basically mugged running down the sidelines and 690 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,959 Speaker 2: nothing was called, and other times I can get away 691 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 2: with this or that. I think that would be insight, 692 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 2: that would be funny. But to say that, yeah, referees 693 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 2: have buddies that they want to show their buddies that 694 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 2: they get on TV. Is ridiculous, But it doesn't even 695 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 2: raise to the ridiculousness of why Pooka Nakula is now 696 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 2: in hot water after he today then had to make 697 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 2: a statement apologizing because of Aiden Ross and Neon is 698 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 2: Neon the other one. I know, I sound like, get 699 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 2: off my lawn guy. I just know he spells his 700 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 2: name with a. 701 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 6: Number, so of course it's supposed to be an E. 702 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, So pookin Akua is making there trying 703 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 2: to get him to do a touchdown celebration that could 704 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,720 Speaker 2: also be taken as an anti semitic gesture. 705 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 3: What are you? 706 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 2: What are you doing on a Tuesday night in advance 707 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 2: of the biggest game of your of your season. I 708 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 2: just there's you want to talk about, like signs things 709 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 2: aren't going gonna go right for the Rams, Like if 710 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 2: we're talking about pookin Nakula today just hours before kickoff 711 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 2: of what could be the biggest game of the NFL 712 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 2: regular season, absolutely ridiculous And puku Akua should apologize, he 713 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 2: should be there should be some sort of of of 714 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 2: penalty to come out with it and I understand why 715 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 2: the Rams didn't want to let these guys into the 716 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,760 Speaker 2: building anyway, like this is this is just crazy, especially 717 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 2: on a short week. 718 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 7: Well that's what I was gonna say. You're streaming on a Tuesday. 719 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 7: You don't play it till Sunday. That's one thing, But 720 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 7: you know games in Seattle, you got to get on 721 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 7: a plane probably Wednesday. Not a good look for him, 722 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,240 Speaker 7: And I don't know that it makes me feel differently 723 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 7: about the game, but just overall, not a good look 724 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 7: for him. 725 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 3: Jason, did you want in on any of this for 726 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 3: I wrap it up? 727 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 6: No. I just think that I don't know anything about 728 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 6: Poka Nakua and the Rams don't make any news in 729 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 6: this town. I should know him better, but he comes 730 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 6: off this week as extremely unsmart. I don't know if 731 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 6: he's just like a big personality and a great receiver 732 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 6: who's not doesn't have it all working up there, but 733 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 6: he just looks kind of dumb in this whole thing. 734 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 2: I always thought that he was very welcoming, and maybe 735 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,319 Speaker 2: that ended up being a downfall where you're welcoming the 736 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 2: wrong sort of things into your life. I don't know 737 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 2: who the streamers are, but he's in hot water because 738 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,680 Speaker 2: of this. Sure, and I know again I sound old, 739 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 2: but while you're doing it on Tuesday night, forty eight 740 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 2: hours before a game against the Seahawks, and by the way, 741 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 2: you offended a lot of people in a very very 742 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 2: bad way. You gotta be better than that, Ram Seahawks. 743 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:06,760 Speaker 3: Tonight. 744 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 2: Doug will be back to talk about that and a 745 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 2: whole bunch more tomorrow. For Aaron Torres, I'm Dan Byer. 746 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:12,919 Speaker 2: It's The Doug Gottlieb Show.