1 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spoffer, joined as always 3 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: by the one and only Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to 4 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: you here from our studios at Lambefield to preview this 5 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: Sunday's three twenty five pm Central Time kickoff at Lambefield 6 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: against the San Francisco forty nine Ers and Wes. I 7 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: don't think anybody thought that the forty nine Ers would 8 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: be five and five at this stage, But what I 9 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: can tell you is that there is nobody in that 10 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,639 Speaker 1: Packers locker room who's looking at five and five as 11 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: any indication of the opponent that they are facing. 12 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: I wish I could remember the forty nine Ers journalist 13 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: or member of the media who had tweeted. I tweeted, 14 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 2: it's snowed in Green Bay this morning. I don't know 15 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 2: if you coul tell. When we were driving in, I 16 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: tweeted out a video of Lambeufield and the snow that's 17 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 2: encapsulating everything. And there's a bunch of San Francisco media 18 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 2: of them picking up on that, and somebody from the 19 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: San Francisco Media Corps retweeted it and it put as 20 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: far as the text that went along with it, basically 21 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 2: acknowledging it's tough game coming up. But they said five 22 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: and five about as desperate as a team can be 23 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: at this point, backed into a corner. And I felt 24 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 2: like that was such a good summation of this because Michael, 25 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what if you just look at the 26 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: statistics and then you go through everything at the very 27 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 2: end of it, say okay, what is this team's record 28 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: very easily could be a seven eight, nine win team. 29 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: Yeah no, and then you dive farther into it. Five 30 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: and five four losses by three points or fewer. They've 31 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: been in every single game they've played this seas and 32 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: they've weathered so many injuries. And we'll go into all 33 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 2: the breakdowns of positions and phases, but the fact that 34 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: they got through eight games though Christian McCaffrey, they developed 35 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 2: Jordan Mason the way that they did that he could 36 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: be a lead back, would have easily probably been a 37 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: fourteen hundred yard rusher if you had to play out 38 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 2: the whole string of the season. Here. It just shows 39 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: you the innovativeness of Kyle Shanahan, the adjustments they've had 40 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: to make defensively to a slew of changes. They just 41 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 2: are always competitive. So yeah, in a lot of ways, Mike, 42 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: I look at this game as, yeah, it's it's seven 43 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 2: and three verses five and five. But very easily this 44 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 2: could be a playoff preview type matchup. 45 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, it absolutely could. And yeah, I think the forty 46 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: nine ers probably are are about as as desperate as 47 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: it gets now with the way things are going in 48 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: the NFC West, They're not going to be out of anything, no, 49 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: because nobody's running away with that division. The leaders will 50 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,399 Speaker 1: talk about their big matchup later. The Cardinals are six 51 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: and four, sitting on top of that division. So the 52 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: fact that the Niners are just one game back of 53 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: the division lead, but that actually the reason the Cardinals 54 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: are in first and the Niners are in second is 55 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: very interesting to look at because one of those four 56 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: very close losses you mentioned was to the Cardinals. It 57 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: was at home for San Francisco, big divisional matchup, and 58 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: they were going in for a touchdown late in the 59 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: fourth quarter that would have given them a two score lead, 60 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: and they fumbled the ball inside the ten yard Yep. 61 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray then takes the Cardinals the other way, the 62 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals end up getting the victory. On the other end 63 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: of things, that fumble inside the ten yard line is 64 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: one huge play that is defining San Francisco's season right now. 65 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: They had the four close losses. The other loss was 66 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: to the Kansas City Chiefs, I think by ten points 67 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: or so. You know, certainly no shame in that. But 68 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: looking at where the Niners are, they are as far 69 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: as total yardage goes, they are the number two offense 70 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: in the NFL. They are the number six defense in 71 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: the NFL. Everything about this team says this is pretty 72 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: much the same team that went to the Super Bowl 73 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: a year ago and nearly won the Super Bowl, except 74 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: the record, accept the ability to win some of these 75 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: close games. Brock Perdy dealing with a shoulder injury sounds 76 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: like he's going to play, like he's not in danger 77 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: of missing the game, but he is limited in practice 78 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: to this point, and we'll see where things are health wise. 79 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: I think the thing that's impressed me the most about 80 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: their offense, and not that this is all that different 81 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: from previous years, but you look at the weapons as 82 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: far as Purty spreading the ball around in the passing game, 83 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: Juwan Jennings, George Kittle, Deebo Samuel. Samuel is just ten 84 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: yards away from five hundred receiving yards on the season, 85 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: and all three of those guys would be over five 86 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: yards then once once he gets there, So that certainly 87 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: stands out. And you mentioned Christian McCaffrey is back. Jordan 88 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: Mason seven hundred rushing yards in Christian McCaffrey's place. That 89 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: was a heck of a job by that young man. 90 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: But Packers had their trouble with McCaffrey in the playoff 91 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: matchup last year. And you know, I think brock Purdy. 92 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: The other thing I'll say is, hopefully the Packers kind 93 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: of getting burned a little bit by Caleb Williams and 94 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: his legs and the scrambling and the zone read stuff. 95 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: Hopefully that was a little bit of an alarm bell, 96 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: a wake up call for what Brock Purdy might do 97 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: with his legs, especially if his throwing shoulder is bothering him. 98 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: He might be a little bit more inclined to get 99 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: away from the pressure and not take a hit on 100 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: that bad shoulder and try to take off and run. 101 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: But it's no different than any other year when you 102 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: face the forty nine Ers where you can't just go 103 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: into it and say, Okay, we're gonna try to take 104 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: this guy away and let other guys beat us, because 105 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: whom do you pick? 106 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, juwan right, I mean that's what kind of happened 107 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 2: last year in the playoff game. I mean this is 108 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: you know they lose Brandon Ayuk. Now, well, Jennings has 109 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 2: become a primary target for them in this offense. George 110 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 2: Kittle was telling the media this week, when you play 111 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: the Packers, you want they're up on the schedule, you 112 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 2: want to be out there. Although he's been battling kind 113 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,799 Speaker 2: of a lingering hamstring injury for at least the last month. 114 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: There's so many different things to point to with this 115 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 2: offense and in the ways that they can generate yards 116 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 2: and production and efficiency. I talked to last month when 117 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 2: the Packer I actually say earlier this month, when the 118 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 2: Packers are getting ready to face the Detroit Lions. Why 119 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 2: were the Lions successful in that game? Well, it was 120 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 2: kind of that blueprint that the forty nine Ers have 121 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: sort of set for the league, which is run the 122 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: clock out, take the air out of the ball, win 123 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 2: the game of possessions. This is still the number one 124 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 2: ranked average time of possession team at the National Football League. 125 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: The forty nine Ers have gotten away from some of 126 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 2: the things that they've done well in the past. They've 127 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 2: given up too many explosive plays defensively while buying large 128 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 2: still playing well. You talk to about the missfield goals, 129 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 2: you know in some of these matchups, and Jake Moody 130 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 2: having an injury that kind of sidelined him for a minute, fumbles, 131 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: those type of things. It's just the forty nine Ers 132 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 2: just haven't They've had one or two things go wrong 133 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: in most of these games that they just haven't been 134 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 2: able to overcome, and that's why they're sitting where they are. 135 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: But you know, Christian McCaffrey is two weeks back now 136 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: in this offense. He's still getting his feet underneath him. 137 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: This is not the game where the Packers want to 138 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: help him be able to do that. I think there's 139 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: a very clear line here and things that have to 140 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: happen for Green Bay to come out victorious. And a 141 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: lot of it is picking your poison. In another part 142 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 2: of it is making sure that whatever you do emphasize 143 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: you shut that aspect down. That's how green Bay got 144 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 2: off to the start they did last year in the 145 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: playoff game. They weren't able to continue it for the 146 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: full four quarters, but that's how they were able to 147 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: control the tempo early on. And I feel like being 148 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: back at lambeau Field, a place where you know they've 149 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: had success against the forty nine ers, even during the 150 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan era. You have to use all that to 151 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: your advantage. 152 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. On the defensive side of the ball, it 153 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: sounds like Nick Bosa, the star edge rusher for the 154 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. To steal an old line from Mike McCarthy, 155 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: it sounds like Bosa will be hard pressed to play on. 156 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 2: No disrespect to Bosa, I just I love that McCarthy 157 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: when when McCarthy would say that you knew, all right, 158 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: well pretty much count that guy out for Sunday. 159 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's dealing with kind of a hip oblique 160 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: type injury. It sounded like he was trying to play 161 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: through it last week, then he aggravated it, came out 162 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: of the game, and then frankly his absence on the 163 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: final drive for the Seahawks where Gino Smith took Seattle 164 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 1: right down the field and Gino Smith then scrambled to 165 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: the pylon and scored the winning touchdown to beat San 166 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: Francisco with just twelve seconds left. Bosa's absence was was 167 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: crucial in in that loss, and he's he is their 168 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: their leading pass rusher with with seven sacks on the season. 169 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: The biggest thing that sticks out to me defensively about 170 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: this group of San Francisco forty nine ers is they 171 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: have nine different players with an interception. Yea, they have 172 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 1: eleven interceptions, which is a lot, but only two guys 173 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: with two interceptions. There are nine different guys who have 174 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: picked off a pass on this defense, and that's certainly 175 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: something to keep an eye on come Sunday. 176 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Indeed, Leonore, who I think just got an extension 177 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 2: if I remember correctly, with the forty nine ers, has 178 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 2: been just a revelation for them. And that was one 179 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: thing that even you know, whether it goes kind of 180 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: even goes back to the Harbaugh days. Yeah, they played 181 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: really good defensively. You knew all their names for their 182 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: their defensive line and then their linebackers, but then they 183 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: sometimes wouldn't have the star cornerbacks or anything like that. 184 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: They just they won a lot with that front seven. Well, well, 185 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 2: Leonore is a guy that has added a lot. He's 186 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 2: been a real fine for them, a former fifth round 187 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 2: pick I think in twenty twenty one, and then you 188 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 2: go to Fred Warner. Certainly Dre Greenlaw losing him in 189 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl I think has affected them. That has 190 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: been a a huge challenge for them. Obviously, they tried 191 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: to sign they did sign DeAndre Campbell Debandre Campbell to 192 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 2: be able to try to offset that absence. I think 193 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: they're going to get Greenlaw back at some point this season, 194 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: it sounds like, but by and large, I mean, you 195 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 2: still have to be so cognizant of what this defense 196 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: can do and how they can hurt you, and when 197 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 2: you have Warner there like that's I say this. Every 198 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: time the Packers have played the forty nine Ers, it's 199 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 2: been This will be the seventh time, I believe in 200 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: the last five years. It doesn't matter what the year is. 201 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 2: You could take me back twelve years. They always they 202 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: don't just have good linebackers. They have the best linebackers 203 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 2: in the National Football League. The job that they've done 204 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: developing them and the way that now Nick Sorenson is 205 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: using them, they are a real problem to deal with 206 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 2: and there's a reason why every single time the Packers 207 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: played them, Aaron Rodgers would pay his respect to Warner 208 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 2: and what he brings in the type of sideline sideline 209 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: player he is, but also the way he can attack 210 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 2: the runage. He's a complete five tool linebackers. So yeah, 211 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: and then with the litany of guys that can intercept 212 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 2: the football. I mean it just there's so much in 213 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 2: this game on running the ball well, protecting the football, 214 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: and making sure that you don't give the forty nine 215 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: ers any extra opportunities. 216 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: Well, let's dive right into the keys to victory then 217 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: for this one, I'll start. There are a few on 218 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 1: my list here, but I'm going to start with this one. 219 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: I think the Packers have to get a takeaway in 220 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: this game, nineteen takeaways. The Packers have been stuck on 221 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: nineteen for a little while here because not just because 222 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: of the bye week, but because their last two games 223 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: against the Lions and the Bears, the defense did not 224 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: take the football away. So that's been that's been a 225 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: change in terms of in terms of what we saw earlier. 226 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: And the other reason I bring it up for this 227 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: game in particular is because I think if the Packers 228 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: get one takeaway off of Purdy last January, they win 229 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: that game going away. Darnell Savage had an interception maybe 230 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: a pick six that hit him right in the chest. 231 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: Keishawn Nixon had an interception that he certainly regrets letting 232 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: get away from him. Either one of those plays. If 233 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: the Packers get the interception off of Purdy, I think 234 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: Brock Purdy is the goat of San Francisco's season because 235 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: the Packers are going to go in there as the 236 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: seventh seed and knock off the one and it's going 237 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: to be because of one of those interceptions and the 238 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: Packers just didn't hang on to the football. You've got 239 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: to be able to make that play in this game 240 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: when Perdy gives you that chance. 241 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean that's also the difference in the type 242 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 2: of safety play too. I mean, Savage wasn't able to 243 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: make those type of plays here. But you look at 244 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 2: a guy like Zabra McKinney now at six, I mean 245 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: that if he's in that position, what potentially could happen. 246 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 2: Evan Williams the way that he played, he's back, it 247 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 2: looks like the hamstring injuries behind him. That's now become 248 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 2: a strength as far as positions for green Bay. So 249 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 2: I agree with you one hundred percent. There's two things 250 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: that stand out to me about this, and you already 251 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 2: read one of them in my inbox column. The one 252 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 2: area whereas offensively San Francisco has struggled this year is 253 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: in goal to go. It's in the red zone area, 254 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 2: and they're pretty much the same kind of boat that 255 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: Green Bay is. Where they move the ball well, but 256 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: when they get inside the twenty, it's been kind of 257 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 2: a grind trying to turn those into touchdowns. I feel 258 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: like whoever is able to win that aspect of this 259 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: game wins this football game. The other thing, too, I 260 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: don't expect snow out here on Sunday like we had 261 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 2: this morning at Lambeufield on Thursday. 262 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: I don't think that's in the forecast. 263 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 2: But it's still going to be right around forty. What 264 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 2: does that mean, Well, kickoffs and there's going to be 265 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 2: more opportunities Keishawn Nixon, you know, this is where he 266 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: typically has been able to heat up late in the season. 267 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 2: San Francisco's thirtieth in the league right now. On kickoff 268 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 2: return def coverage, I mean there's a potential there for 269 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: Nixon to break one. And when you look at game 270 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: changing special teams plays, we saw it last week, and 271 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: maybe there's another one in there for Green Bay this one. 272 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: And Nixon had a big return last January in that 273 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: playoff game. He ended up fumbling the ball at Eric 274 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: Wilson makes the great recovery, but Nixon almost almost broke 275 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: that one. And that long kickoff return in the playoff 276 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: game did set up a touchdown for the Packers. So 277 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 1: you're definitely, you're definitely onto something there. The other two 278 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: things that stand out to me in this one, and 279 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: I already already suggested one already, and that's too that's 280 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: to not let Rock Purty beat you with his legs. 281 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: The Packers defense really was, as I said in our 282 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: last show, felt like the defense was on its heels 283 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: all game because of what Caleb Williams for the Bears 284 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: was doing with his legs. You can't kind of be 285 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: put in that position again. And I do think. I mean, 286 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: Purdy is certainly, you know, a capable scrambler regardless, but 287 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: the fact that his throwing shoulder is not one hundred 288 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: percent not to say that he's that he's going to 289 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: hesitate to make any throws. But it's more to me, 290 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: it feels like if he's going to be hesitant to 291 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: take any hits, you know, because you know, one hit 292 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: in the wrong spot, the you know, right slash wrong 293 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: spot could you know, could really change things for perty. 294 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: So he might be even more inclined to take off 295 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: get out of the pocket. And the Packers have really 296 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: got to contin and him in the pocket. And then 297 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: the other thing is and I know I said, we've 298 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: been talking about the whole pick your poison thing, but man, 299 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: if there is one through line in these games in 300 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: the Matt Lafleur era against the San Francisco Forti and Ires, 301 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: it's been George Kittle. He does damage against the Packers 302 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: every single time. The only game that Kittle has played 303 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: in his career against the Packers in which he was 304 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: not a factor, not a significant factor in my opinion, 305 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: was the twenty nineteen NFC Championship game where Raheem Moster 306 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: had the huge game and Jimmy Garoppolo only threw eight passes, 307 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: so there wasn't anything in the passing game for Kittle 308 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: to do. All his other games, he missed the game 309 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. He was on ir All of Kittle's 310 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: other games against the Packers, there is significant production usually 311 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: comes with a touchdown. I think you've got to find 312 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: a way to limit him better than the Packers have 313 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: done in the past. And is that a cure all, No, 314 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: because you got McCaffrey, you got Deebo Samuy, you got 315 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: Juwan Jennings, and there plenty of other weapons to deal with. 316 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: But I would like to see a Packers defense not 317 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: let George Kittle beat him for once. 318 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. And if I may to bring it 319 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: back to pretty to a little bit as well. The 320 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: one thing, you know, this year it's been a little 321 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: bit more up and down for him. I mean the 322 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 2: stats don't jump off the page obviously, as you mentioned, 323 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: he's also dealing with the shoulder now. But why he's 324 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 2: been such a good fifty You know, people get so 325 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 2: tied up in the fact he was mister irrelevant. I 326 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: think sometimes you forget about why he fits so well 327 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: into Shanahan's offense and a lot of what he does 328 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: is similar to what Jared Goff is doing in Detroit now. 329 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: It's efficiency, it is protecting the football, it's making the 330 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: plays that are there, maybe not having all the incredible 331 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: highlight reel Sports center type plays, but being able to 332 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: matriculate the ball down the field. And that's where he's 333 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 2: really excelled. And to bring it back to Kittle, the 334 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: ability for him to come in from day one and 335 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: be able to maintain and build that chemistry with his 336 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 2: tight end. I mean, yeah, Ayuk has been in and out. 337 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: He had the holdout this past year. Deebo Samuel is 338 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 2: using a variety of different ways. But when you think 339 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 2: of this San Francisco offense, even before Christian McCaffrey got here, 340 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: George Kittle was the constant. He's the fifth round pick 341 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: that became a superstar, and seeing him really be able 342 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: to grow with Purdy has been something I think one 343 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 2: has helped kind of make his own case for a 344 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame career, but two is what enabled Perdy 345 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 2: to be able to come in as a rookie and 346 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: second year player and ultimately make an impact. We've seen 347 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: it time and time again. The best friend of a 348 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 2: young quarterback in the National Football League is a tight end. 349 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 2: It's happening in Green Bay here right now with Tucker 350 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: Craft and Jordan Love. When you have that type of 351 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 2: guy you can turn to. That's where you go when 352 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 2: you need a first down, that's where you go when 353 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: you need to make a play. And Kittle's always been 354 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: that guy. 355 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, last year, last year, in that playoff game in January, 356 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: it was it was Kittle, Kittle and McCaffrey that did 357 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: a lot of damage when Deebo Samuel left the game 358 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: with an injury. We'll see, we'll see how close to 359 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: full speed, full strength Kittle is with the hamstring injury, 360 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: and playing in forty degree weather isn't always the greatest 361 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: thing for hamstring injuries either, So you know, we'll just 362 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 1: have to see how that plays out. 363 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 2: Kittle's a tough son of a gun, but I is. 364 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 2: But I do want to mention this is something he 365 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: has been dealing with. He's miss games already with this 366 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: hamstring injury. He took a week off. We'll see if 367 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 2: it helps him, if it's gonna be something that is 368 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 2: going to allow him to play more. But Michael, you 369 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: and I have been covering this league for a long time. 370 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 2: I covered track and field before this. Those things just 371 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 2: don't go away. Yeah, it's not an injury where it's 372 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: like six weeks for a bone to heal. It doesn't 373 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: work like that. Sometimes you tear it in different spots. 374 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 2: I mean is it is probably one of the biggest 375 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 2: storylines to follow going into Sunday and throughout Sunday. 376 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, without a doubt, a little bit of sponsor business 377 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: here West Sirius XM NFL Radio delivers hard hitting analysis 378 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: and up to the minute NFL news that true football 379 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: fanatics need. Twenty four to seven, three sixty five and 380 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: had cousin subs. 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This one will be against 387 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings, and as frustrating as that loss was 388 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: for the Bears last week to lose to the Packers 389 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: on the blocked field goal, you get the sense that 390 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: the Bears are back in that spot where they feel 391 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: like they got something to build on with their offense 392 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: and with Caleb Williams. This Minnesota Vikings defense is going 393 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: to be a huge challenge in that regard. This will 394 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: be an interesting matchup the first. 395 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: Time that Caleb Williams is seeing this Brian Flores defense 396 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: as well. Yep. So there's parts of it that I 397 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 2: wonder about, you know, certainly the diagnosing of that front, 398 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 2: where your pressure points are, how things are going to 399 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: be thrown at you, finding your pursuit angles and finding 400 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: your escape you know, zone from the pocket. All those 401 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: things are going to be so critical for Williams. But 402 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 2: I will say this, the guy could not have finished 403 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 2: the game any better. I mean, he was making throws 404 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: he absolutely had to make. He was putting it where 405 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 2: only as receivers could catch it, and he was allowing 406 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: guys to make plays. And you wonder when you start 407 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 2: getting some of those more explosive type games. We were 408 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 2: talking about him and how much you know, going into 409 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: that game, everything was so close to the line of 410 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 2: scrimmage against New England, you wonder if that's going to 411 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 2: potentially open some things up for them. I think what 412 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 2: I probably am more curious to see is this Vikings offense, 413 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: which has been I don't want to say stagnating, but 414 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 2: they've started to hit some skids a little bit. How 415 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 2: that is going to match up with a Chicago defense 416 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 2: which has been really tough, I mean tougher than a 417 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 2: two dollars stake this season and figuring out that chess match. 418 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 2: I think as much as it is about Williams and 419 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 2: the first overall pick and are they going to be 420 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 2: able to get this offense going, I think it's actually 421 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 2: that phase and that matchup that's probably going to determine 422 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 2: whether or not one Chicago can pick up a much 423 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 2: needed victory, and two where exactly Minnesota is at in 424 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 2: Sam Darnold. 425 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Packers fans becoming Bears fans this weekend in 426 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: the early window there, seeing if the Bears can knock 427 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: off the Vikings. The other one in the NFC North, 428 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: the game that I didn't think existed Detroit at Indianapolis 429 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: because I I misjudged that whole thing missing, that that 430 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: AFC South matchup that remained there for the Lions. But 431 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: they go to Indianapolis and you know, you say, Okay, yeah, 432 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: they're on the road, but they're going on the road 433 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: in another dome. They can practically just take drive a 434 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: bus to Indianapolis. They don't even have to get on 435 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: a plane. I mean, you know, I know the Colts 436 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: are fighting, you know, for a potential playoff spot in 437 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: the in the AFC. But you know, none of these 438 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: AFC South teams have have really done anything against the 439 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. 440 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 2: So Houston made it close. 441 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, in the first half, that's true. Houston had 442 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,239 Speaker 1: the big lead on him and they got it, you know, 443 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: and then let it get away. But yeah, hard to 444 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: see the Lions losing this one. 445 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: But to quickly recap for those of you who have 446 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: not been watching the NFL this season, the Lions beat 447 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 2: the Tennessee Titans fifty two to fourteen, came back to 448 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: beat Houston Texas twenty six to twenty three, and last 449 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: weekend handed the Jacksonville Jaguars the worst loss in their 450 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 2: team's history fifty two to six. This does wrap up 451 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 2: the AFC South. Want to make sure we mentioned that 452 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: as well. I will say this is where all eyes 453 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: are going to be on Anthony Richardson. Ye kid, he 454 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 2: makes sense of the chaos. And I feel like, what 455 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 2: did I say when they made the switch to Flacco. 456 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 2: I said, I don't like this Richardson was hurt. You 457 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: want to make sure he gets healthy when he's back, 458 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: when he's ready. He's the quarterback again. One, you spent 459 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 2: a really high draft pick on him. Yeah, in two. 460 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 2: He can win in unconventional ways. And honestly, this is 461 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 2: why I'm not counting the Colts out from this. Now 462 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 2: their defense is going to have to have an answer 463 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 2: for everything that Detroit is throwing at teams. But offensively, 464 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: I think there is an opportunity for this. I mean, 465 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: listen to some of the comments this Peak this week. 466 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 2: I think it was Alex Pearce who said, we believe 467 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: in this guy. He is the future of this team. 468 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 2: And you know, just seeing how it all plays out 469 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: is going to be very curious to watch. But I'm 470 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: just gonna say, next Tuesday, you and I are sitting 471 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 2: here and all right, the Indianapolis Colts pull because there's 472 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 2: a thing. Colts are still in this thing. 473 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, the Colt, The Colts, The Colts right, plenty, 474 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: The Colts have plenty to play for. They are fighting, 475 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: They are fighting like crazy in UH in that AFC 476 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: South to UH to stay in the playoff picture and 477 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: uh and yeah, this for a team like that with 478 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: a young quarterback, uh, playing at home in front of 479 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: your home crowd. I mean this can this can be 480 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: one of those games that that can turn your season 481 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: and define your season. I mean there is, uh, there is. 482 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: It's it's a certainly an opportunity for the Indianapolis Colts 483 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: to uh to get people to take notice. 484 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,479 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And they have the weapons to do it. 485 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 2: Like that's the weirdest thing. They have veteran offensive linemen, 486 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 2: they have really good receivers, Jonathan Taylor as their running back. Yeah, 487 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 2: but it just it's been too inconsistent. 488 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: Well elsewhere, we hinted at this one before as well. 489 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: A really big game in the NFC West, Arizona is 490 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: at Seattle. The Cardinals on top of the division at 491 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: six and four. Seattle right behind now at five and 492 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: five after beating the forty nine ers in the final 493 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: seconds last week. Am I correct that all three of 494 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: the teams in the NFC West behind the Cardinals are 495 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: five and five? Is that that's correct? So the Niners, 496 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 1: the Seahawks, and the Rams all at five and five. 497 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: The Cardinals are atop that division by one game at 498 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: six and four. This is a really interesting one. We 499 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 1: won't be able to really see any of it because 500 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: it'll be going on at exactly the same time as 501 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: Packers and forty nine Ers. But this is a significant 502 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: one in that division race. 503 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 2: I don't want to get into the path to the 504 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 2: playoffs thing. We got a long way to go yet. 505 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 2: But I was sitting here thinking about this because Philadelphia 506 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 2: also plays the Rams this week. I think that's yeah, that' 507 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 2: Sunday night football. 508 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. 509 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 2: I think we're getting to the point now where it's 510 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:09,199 Speaker 2: like Arizona keep winning, Philly keep winning. Yeah. And you 511 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 2: know when you you said the five and five thing 512 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: about the NFC West, those are teams eight, nine, and 513 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 2: ten right now in the standings for the conference. Yeah, uh, 514 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: it's Packers are sitting there at seven and three, and 515 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 2: I think who's seven, And there's a team that's seven 516 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: and four Washington, Washington. So yeah, I mean, this is uh, 517 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 2: this is huge. And trying to make you know, trying 518 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: to make sense that the Seahawks has been a real conundrum. 519 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 2: You know, they had some injuries earlier this season. 520 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 1: They really start, they start out three and zero and 521 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: then they lose three straight and fall the three and three. 522 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: I believe and uh and going through these ups and 523 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: downs and then they pull out a massive road win 524 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: at San Francisco in the final seconds last week. It 525 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: you know, the it's been the I think the most 526 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: interesting thing to me about the NFC West is not 527 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: just that all four of those teams are within one 528 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: game of one another, but none of those teams playing 529 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: all that well at home. Like you know, you always 530 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: think Seattle, oh, that's such a really that's a tough 531 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: place to play. San Francisco tough place to play. Both 532 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: of those teams are losing home games regularly this season. 533 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: So that's what's been so hard to get a gauge 534 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: on where exactly these teams are going. 535 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: And Seattle feel free keep losing games at home that 536 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 2: I will be Karen and. 537 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: Bide fed by me, fined by me. As well. One 538 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: other one just before we go, I want to get 539 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 1: your thoughts on. In the AFC, Baltimore is at the 540 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: Chargers carbol two. Yeah, Baltimore coming off of that tough 541 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: loss against Pittsburgh Division rival the AFC North Battle there 542 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: went to the Steelers, so they're looking to bounce back 543 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 1: from that. The Chargers blow the three touchdown lead against 544 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 1: the Bengals on Sunday Night Football last week, but then 545 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: pull it out at the end, and Jim Harbaugh Justin 546 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: Herbert looks like a combination that could be pretty dangerous 547 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: here in the NFL for a while. 548 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 2: Justin Herbert might throw for forderd yards in this game. 549 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 2: It's just what the issues Baltimore has had with their secondary, 550 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 2: very very two sided defense right now, really good against 551 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 2: the run, not good against the can't stop the pain. 552 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 2: And Herbert, I'll say this, man, it's not I'm not 553 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: This is not a big epiphany to say, Oh, Jim 554 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 2: Harbaugh was a good hire. I mean he was the 555 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 2: most people have been sought you know, he's been the 556 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 2: most sought after coach in the free agent market in years, right, 557 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 2: everybody for years they were talking about when he's going 558 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 2: to come back to the National Football League. But he 559 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 2: has been perfect for Justin Herbert. Because Herbert, we've seen 560 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 2: the flashes for the last four and a half years, 561 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 2: and here he is now with one of the best 562 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 2: quarterback minds that the league has seen in college football 563 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 2: has seen, and he's being able to work with them 564 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 2: and they've made the improvements they've needed to make offensively. 565 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 2: You know, Lad McConkie now becoming a factor in this offense. 566 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 2: Their their offensive line is much improved. We'll see how 567 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: they handle the Lamar Jackson experience defensively. But I just 568 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 2: I look at the I look at the Chargers right 569 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 2: now a lot like I like look at the Packers. 570 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 2: I just I think this team can play with anybody. Now. 571 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 2: The question is, and this is a real good litmus 572 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 2: test for this can you beat that elite of the AFC? 573 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 2: And this will be one of those first tests. Yeah. 574 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think that's gonna be. Uh, it's gonna be 575 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: a really interesting game to follow. So with that, we 576 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: will call it a rap. After I talk about that's 577 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: my guy. 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