WEBVTT - The Diddy Trial: “Absolutely” Not a Drug Mule

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, folks, It's Friday, June twentieth, and the Diddy trial

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<v Speaker 1>has resumed after being off for two days, and they

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<v Speaker 1>seem to be trying to make up some time this

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<v Speaker 1>morning with that. Welcome to this Diddy Trial Update edition

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<v Speaker 1>of Amy and TJ. We continue to keep you updated

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot to update folks about right now Robes.

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<v Speaker 1>As we speak, testimony is underway. But one of the

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<v Speaker 1>witnesses we've been waiting a long time to hear from,

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<v Speaker 1>Brendan Paul, has already been up and down. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a key witness. I'm a little surprised they're done with

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<v Speaker 1>him so quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Not only did he go through direct examination by the

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<v Speaker 3>prosecution in less than ninety minutes correct, then the defense

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<v Speaker 3>had their swing at him in cross examination and they

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<v Speaker 3>were done much sooner than that.

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<v Speaker 1>It looked like maybe, I mean minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>They asked him a few questions minutes at the most.

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<v Speaker 1>That was very surprising. A reminder here, Brendan Paul has

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<v Speaker 1>been waiting since Tuesday, maybe yes, to testify that he

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<v Speaker 1>was ready. Wednesday, court was abruptly canceled because a juror

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<v Speaker 1>got sick, had vertigo Thursday out for June tenth. He

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<v Speaker 1>comes back today. This is a guy who knew, who

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<v Speaker 1>saw a lot, who was right next to him right

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<v Speaker 1>up until twenty twenty four when everything came apart and

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<v Speaker 1>they I don't know, I don't know what I was expecting,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was expecting there to be a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>grilling of this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I thought he might be on the stand much

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<v Speaker 3>much longer. He was actually named in at least three

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<v Speaker 3>of the civil lawsuits, and in one of those lawsuits

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<v Speaker 3>described as Diddy's drug mule, he was arrested and charged,

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<v Speaker 3>but because he is now testifying on behalf of the prosecution,

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<v Speaker 3>those charges were dropped. But something he said emphatically today

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<v Speaker 3>on the stand that he was absolutely not a drug mule,

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<v Speaker 3>even though he did carry some drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what were some of the things he ended

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<v Speaker 1>up explaining. Everybody's been calling him a drug mule. Listening

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<v Speaker 1>to his testimony today, I said, Okay, I see why

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<v Speaker 1>he takes offense to that, and I see why maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't be used. Before we get to all of

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<v Speaker 1>that with him, one note, we need to button up

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<v Speaker 1>his juror number seven. Yes, right, one juror had been

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<v Speaker 1>dismissed number six for so inconsistent statements about where he

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<v Speaker 1>actually lived, and they've been talking about during number seven.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like all week we knew it was on

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<v Speaker 1>the table that maybe another juror could get excused. Judge

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<v Speaker 1>finally addressed it this morning.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so we did learn that it was the defense

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<v Speaker 3>who was asking that this juror during number seven be removed.

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<v Speaker 3>The allegation was that he may have talked about the

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<v Speaker 3>case in some way to a work colleague. The judge

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<v Speaker 3>said he investigated it and was not going to excuse

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<v Speaker 3>the jurors or juror number seven remains on the jury,

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<v Speaker 3>and we know that that sick juror must have showed

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<v Speaker 3>back up to court today much better. Vertigo issues resolved

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<v Speaker 3>because there are no other alternate jurors being put on

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<v Speaker 3>the jury, so just one alternate juror now has assumed

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<v Speaker 3>that position.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you thrown off as well? I saw one update

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<v Speaker 1>this morning. I can't remember which reporter in the room

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<v Speaker 1>that said there was a delay this morning. They had

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<v Speaker 1>to be in recess for a short time because not

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<v Speaker 1>everybody in the jury had shown up yet. So it

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<v Speaker 1>didn't I'll go but a few minutes. But when I

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<v Speaker 1>saw that update, I said, Lord, here we go again. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just been a week of jury issues.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so thankfully all the jurors are seated.

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<v Speaker 3>They have been listening intently to the testimony that's taking

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<v Speaker 3>place today. Again, the prosecution has gone through Brendan Paul,

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<v Speaker 3>and we'll talk about what he testified to. But they're

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<v Speaker 3>already at the next I believe the second to last

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<v Speaker 3>witness now will stand Homeland Security agent, and then there's

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<v Speaker 3>only one more to go, and we're assuming at that

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<v Speaker 3>point the prosecution is going to wrap their case.

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<v Speaker 2>Could it happen today at this rate? Who knows.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's only half a day, right, So maybe that's

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<v Speaker 3>why they are getting through things very quickly, and a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of folks think that they'll technically end up wrapping

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<v Speaker 3>their case on Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of juror issues, this is not a negative thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But the reason they're only doing a half day to

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<v Speaker 1>day is because one of the needs to attend a

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<v Speaker 1>son's graduation, which again I compliment the federal government for

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<v Speaker 1>allowing that, but it's we had no jury issues at

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<v Speaker 1>scene for the first five weeks, and all of a

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<v Speaker 1>sudden we talking about a juror every single day. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's underway now. I can imagine this going pretty quickly

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<v Speaker 1>as well. But Brendan Paul was the guy Robesen. He

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<v Speaker 1>was talked about so much. Yes, drug mule, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>something that looks fun in a headline. But this how

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<v Speaker 1>you could argue, this was a kid fresh out of college,

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<v Speaker 1>happy as hell to be working for Sean Diddy Combs.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was. He knew going in just how demanding

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<v Speaker 1>this job was going to because folks warned him what

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to have to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and this is a smart kid.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a basketball player at Syracuse University. He had

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<v Speaker 3>a wonderful resume and was I'm sure and talked about

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<v Speaker 3>being very excited to work for Sean Diddy Combs.

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<v Speaker 1>What age at the time, Well.

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<v Speaker 3>He would have been fresh out of college for twenty

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<v Speaker 3>two Yeah, because he's twenty six right now now, I believe.

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<v Speaker 3>And right out of college he was working up to

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred hours a week. But we all did that

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<v Speaker 3>when we first got out of school, at least you

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<v Speaker 3>and I did. He had a much better starting salary

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<v Speaker 3>than you and I did, seventy five thousand, he said.

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<v Speaker 3>He got a year to begin with, and then eventually

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<v Speaker 3>worked his way up to one hundred K.

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<v Speaker 1>He tripled my starting salary exactly the same. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to do a lot of stuff he did.

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<v Speaker 3>But still I didn't have to carry drugs or do

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<v Speaker 3>anything illegal. But I was working about ninety two one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred hours a week for twenty two thousand dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 2>His carried a lot more.

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<v Speaker 3>Risk and punishment than mine, however, according to his testimony.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was He said he was happy to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>He learned a lot from Sean ditty Combs. And what

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<v Speaker 1>was the interview process? How does that work?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>When you're going to interview for Sean? Didty Combs all right?

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<v Speaker 1>They said he went to his house out in California

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<v Speaker 1>and didn't meet with Diddy. Do I have this right?

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<v Speaker 1>It was KK, Yes, that he met with the infamous KK,

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<v Speaker 1>the chief of staff to Shawn Ditty Combs met with

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<v Speaker 1>her and three days later he was working.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>He was told that if he had a girlfriend, he

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<v Speaker 3>should break up with her and he should say goodbye

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<v Speaker 3>to his family. So they told him right off the bat,

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<v Speaker 3>like you cannot have any other distractions. You can't have

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<v Speaker 3>any other personal distractions. That is intimidating. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>that as much as I was excited about my career,

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<v Speaker 3>and I didn't I wasn't afraid of the hours with

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<v Speaker 3>a low salary. But if you told me you can't

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<v Speaker 3>have a personal life at all, that's that's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>to ask.

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<v Speaker 1>See, that's the uh wow. It was one of our

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<v Speaker 1>quotes this week. Right, your success in life is before

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<v Speaker 1>thirty is the thing you say yes to. After thirty

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<v Speaker 1>is the stuff you say based on things you say

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<v Speaker 1>no to. But right out of college, I can't imagine. Look,

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<v Speaker 1>we were doing in a different role. We're not comparing

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves to this kid. But we go into a job,

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<v Speaker 1>a new career, we're taking off after college. He is

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<v Speaker 1>going and trying to he's trying to make a name

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<v Speaker 1>for himself, and it's just desperate to get into this industry.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's getting into the industry working under someone who

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<v Speaker 1>is considered an icon at this point the industry, considered

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<v Speaker 1>a genius in the industry, very successful in this industry.

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<v Speaker 1>He was willing to do whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>It reminds me, don't laugh at me about the movie

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<v Speaker 3>Devilwaar's Prada, where it's supposedly based loosely on anawintour's career

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<v Speaker 3>in life. But if you were an assistant and you

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to get into the fashion industry, if you're an

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<v Speaker 3>assistant you want to get into the music industry, whatever

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<v Speaker 3>it is, you meet with this person who is considered

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<v Speaker 3>the mogul, the top of their game, who has made

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<v Speaker 3>or broken potential artists. So yeah, you will go through

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<v Speaker 3>the abuse and the punishment and the long hours and

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<v Speaker 3>the no.

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<v Speaker 2>Personal life to get ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>However, when someone starts asking you to do something illegal,

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<v Speaker 3>that is a completely different situation.

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<v Speaker 2>And he certainly describes that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we go buy that for a second. Again, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to been hearing about Brendon Paul. Now hearing his

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<v Speaker 1>own testimony, his own words, you think about some of

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<v Speaker 1>the things differently. But I can't imagine. Yes, everybody would

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<v Speaker 1>love to say that absolutely I would never do something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, But when you're twenty three years old and

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<v Speaker 1>your dream is coming true next to someone that you

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<v Speaker 1>look up to this much, this accomplished, that's at the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the game. Yes, I could say I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>do anything illegal. I can say that's sitting here now right.

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<v Speaker 1>But at twenty three, if I don't know, Bernard Shaw

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<v Speaker 1>at CNN told me, hey, man, you can work for me,

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<v Speaker 1>but you gotta do that. I'm not sure if I

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<v Speaker 1>would have ever said no to somebody I idolized like that.

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<v Speaker 3>And perhaps that's part of the reasoning why the FEDS

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<v Speaker 3>were willing to drop charges against him to hear what

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<v Speaker 3>really happened, because they understood the reasoning perhaps behind why

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<v Speaker 3>someone his age, or why so many of these purported

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<v Speaker 3>victims might have done what they did in order to

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<v Speaker 3>have a larger goal met, or to do something that

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<v Speaker 3>they couldn't have done without Ditty. So there's an understanding perhaps,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's why there have been so many immunity deals

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<v Speaker 3>as they try to build their case against Ditty.

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<v Speaker 1>I should make clear Bernie Shaw was never accused of anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Loved Bernard Shaw. I just looked up to him, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying I would have done anything legal, But

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<v Speaker 1>point being is, just put yourself in that position as

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<v Speaker 1>a young twenty two year old trying to make it somewhere,

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<v Speaker 1>and this guy says, yes, come on and be on

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<v Speaker 1>my team. That lets you, gives you more insight into

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<v Speaker 1>his where his.

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<v Speaker 3>Head was some of the other interesting parts of his testimony,

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<v Speaker 3>And again a lot of this was just reinforcing what

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<v Speaker 3>we had other we had already heard from other assistants.

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<v Speaker 3>But he said he went once three days without sleep,

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<v Speaker 3>got a couple of naps in, but he had to

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<v Speaker 3>take adderall and he said on rare occasions he would

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<v Speaker 3>also take cocaine to try and stay awake. He said,

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<v Speaker 3>before he worked for Diddy, the most he had ever

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<v Speaker 3>done The only drug he'd ever done was smoke some weed,

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<v Speaker 3>So this was not something he had ever been used

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<v Speaker 3>to up until this position.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he say we were talking about loyalty earlier, We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get into that him being arrested, were talking about loyalty.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't tell it was Ditty's drugs. He also said

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<v Speaker 1>he did drugs with.

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<v Speaker 2>Diddy, Yes, to prove to prove loyalty.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see what drug was that? Do you know?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't know if he specified what drug

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<v Speaker 2>it was.

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<v Speaker 3>He said that he didn't think he had the full

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<v Speaker 3>effect when he took it, but he did it to prove,

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<v Speaker 3>like literally.

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<v Speaker 2>Did he the presumption was it?

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<v Speaker 3>Did he said, Hey, do this with me and I'll

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<v Speaker 3>trust you because we will have both done this together. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>but he also mentioned does lots of other assistants have

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned that he got fired. The funny thing is he's

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<v Speaker 3>lost count, he said two or three times. Usually if

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<v Speaker 3>you get fired, you remember that pretty pretty like specifically.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the one time I got fired.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember the one time I got fired too, Babe.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so funny. I think it happened at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the only time, the only time I've ever

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<v Speaker 2>been fired in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>But yes, I just thought it was funny that he

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<v Speaker 3>said he's been fired two or three times.

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<v Speaker 2>You lost count. That's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of them was really messed up. Was this

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<v Speaker 1>the fanny pack? Yeah, lululemen fanny pack.

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<v Speaker 3>Got the Lululemon fanny pack before they went out on

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<v Speaker 3>it was a walk.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a walk, so he didn't bring the fanny pack.

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<v Speaker 1>This It still it stood out to me for the yes,

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculousness of firing somebody for not bringing a bag, but

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<v Speaker 1>the specificity of a Lulu Limon fanny pack. Did he

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<v Speaker 1>needed that fanny pack so bad and he was so

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<v Speaker 1>mad he didn't have it he fired.

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<v Speaker 3>Can you imagine the moment when he asked for the

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<v Speaker 3>fanny pack and Brendan Paul realized he didn't have it.

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<v Speaker 2>That had to be horrific.

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<v Speaker 1>He knew what was going And.

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<v Speaker 3>Then here's the other interesting part about that testimony. Part

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<v Speaker 3>of the testimony, he said that other employees told him,

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<v Speaker 3>don't worry about it, just lay low for a few days,

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<v Speaker 3>and eventually that's exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's KK, he said. Did he in that interaction

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<v Speaker 1>after he found out he didn't have the bag, he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't look at him and say you're fired? He said, did?

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<v Speaker 1>He told him go call KK and tell her that

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<v Speaker 1>you're fired, is what he told him to do. And

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<v Speaker 1>the chief, his dad tells him, just lay low, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be fine. And sure enough, he said, a few

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<v Speaker 1>days later, KK was the one that called Brendan Paul

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<v Speaker 1>and said set up a free golf, set up a

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<v Speaker 1>hotel room. And it was never brought up again. That's wild,

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of it's a tough way to live. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a tough way.

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<v Speaker 2>To operate in always on edge.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're at the whim of someone else's mood that

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<v Speaker 3>you can never predict. And that is a really talk

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<v Speaker 3>about anxiety inducing when you never know what to expect,

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<v Speaker 3>what's going to happen, and what thing you're gonna do

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<v Speaker 3>that's going to set him off or make him happy.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what all of these folks have been testifying to.

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<v Speaker 1>And to think that the guy, he's already his behavior

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<v Speaker 1>is what it is. But is he high right now?

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<v Speaker 1>What is he high on? If he's not high, he

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<v Speaker 1>might not be in a good mood. If he's high

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<v Speaker 1>on the wrong thing, Like where is to try to

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<v Speaker 1>predict that? This is incredible? But the drugs. We've been

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<v Speaker 1>hearing a lot about the drugs. This went in line

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of what people were saying, but he

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<v Speaker 1>got into some more specifics about which drugs they used.

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<v Speaker 1>He got into more specifics about what he was required

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<v Speaker 1>to do and to purchase. They had a drug dealers

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<v Speaker 1>on standby with they had names. They had so many

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<v Speaker 1>people to text who could sometimes bring the drugs to

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<v Speaker 1>the house. Sometimes he would go pick up packages and

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<v Speaker 1>the stuff was already paid for. Others, times he would

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<v Speaker 1>go and spend a few hundred dollars and have to

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<v Speaker 1>buy the drugs another time. He said, at least once

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<v Speaker 1>every two months, they would just get a new supply weed.

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<v Speaker 1>They would get a pound of it forty every two months.

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<v Speaker 3>And he said that he definitely had to buy thousands

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<v Speaker 3>of dollars worth of drugs. And when he asked, was

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<v Speaker 3>asked which ones marijuana, cocaine, pink cocaine, ecstasy, and ketamine

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<v Speaker 3>is what he said, and like, yes, it's so bizarre

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<v Speaker 3>to feel like we now know the names of the

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<v Speaker 3>dealers of Ditty's dealer's guido. We've heard that one several times,

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<v Speaker 3>one stop, baby girl and ov so even he remembered

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<v Speaker 3>the names of the folks that were just basically on

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<v Speaker 3>speed dial.

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<v Speaker 2>At this point.

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<v Speaker 1>You could reel off names of drug dealers for Diddy.

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<v Speaker 1>I can reel off mail escorts.

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<v Speaker 3>We have this information, yes, And you also can reel

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<v Speaker 3>off what was in that Gucci pouch? Can you not toiletries? Lights,

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<v Speaker 3>candles in sense, condoms, liquor soup? He like chicken noodle soup.

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<v Speaker 3>We know that astroglide, the baby oil, we know is

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<v Speaker 3>carried in a separate water cooler or a little lunch

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<v Speaker 3>cooler sort of apparatus.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it's bizarre the details.

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<v Speaker 3>That we now have come to know, and every single

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<v Speaker 3>depending on you know, We're talking about over a decade,

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<v Speaker 3>different different girls, different assistants.

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<v Speaker 2>They all say the same things.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of different girls there, he did mention Jane, So

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<v Speaker 1>Jane the last Jane Doe to testify against Ditty on

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<v Speaker 1>the stand that would have been the one who was

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<v Speaker 1>dating Ditty at the time that Brendan Paul was working there.

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<v Speaker 1>He talked about these hotel nights and he well, he

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned about her specifically. He said he would usually talk

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<v Speaker 1>to her before the freak offs, but he said he

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<v Speaker 1>would pretty much always end up talking to her after,

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<v Speaker 1>not once did he. Ever, He said there was never

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<v Speaker 1>a hint of her not wanting to be there, being

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<v Speaker 1>hesitant in any way, needing help in any way, and

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<v Speaker 1>being anything other than an enthusiastic participant.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I mean, and that is damning as hell

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<v Speaker 3>to the prosecution. He said that Jane, from his perspective

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<v Speaker 3>what he witnessed, was not forced into spending nights in

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<v Speaker 3>those hotel rooms, and asked by the defense if Jane

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<v Speaker 3>was ever sorry or not a willing participant, Paul didn't

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<v Speaker 3>just say no, He.

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<v Speaker 2>Said absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought that was interesting, and he also denied that

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<v Speaker 3>anything he did for Diddy amounted to being.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of a criminal enterprise.

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<v Speaker 3>So that is putting it into perspective for jurors from

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<v Speaker 3>the defense's standpoint, but he certainly seemed to have done

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of good for the defense. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how much good he did for the prosecution. Again, no

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<v Speaker 3>legal expert here, but it seemed like the defense had

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<v Speaker 3>some wins with Brendan Paul's cross examination with some.

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<v Speaker 1>Direct questions to him that he answered. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>a if you've seen the pictures, he's out there, he's

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>You said he'll be twenty seven at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the year.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks like a fresh kid out of college still

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of ways. And we mentioned him being

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<v Speaker 1>a Syracuse basketball player. I want to put this in

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<v Speaker 1>some context. They said that was a part of the

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<v Speaker 1>reason he got the gig is because he could help.

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<v Speaker 1>Did he with his workouts, with his nutrition and some

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<v Speaker 1>of that stuff. This was a guy who was at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the bench at Syracuse. I am not

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<v Speaker 1>this is not an insult, but some context for him.

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<v Speaker 1>In two years, he got into sixteen games. In two years,

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<v Speaker 1>he played a total of seventeen minutes. In two years,

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<v Speaker 1>he made exactly one shot in a game in two years.

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<v Speaker 1>He rode the end of the bench. That's fine. He

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<v Speaker 1>contributed in the locker room and all kinds of other ways.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not knocking or taking away from that. What I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying is, when you the context there, he's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a or what kind of a scrawny kid. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>He's not an imposing figure, and he's been described as

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<v Speaker 1>having a babyface up there.

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<v Speaker 3>On the stat He absolutely does have a babyface, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent. So he doesn't look like some deviant

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<v Speaker 3>criminal who's you know, doing all of Comb's nasty bidding

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<v Speaker 3>for like just this, Like it's just he doesn't fit

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<v Speaker 3>the image at all of who you would expect to

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<v Speaker 3>be doing Ditty's dirty deed, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>And some of the dirty cleanup he mentioned gloves.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Gloves for your job. That's that's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>He needed gloves to clean up after his boss in

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<v Speaker 1>a hotel room. He did it for sanitary reasons, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes sense. But that was just another one of

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<v Speaker 1>the details that came out. And this makes sense ro

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<v Speaker 1>but he confirmed all those freak offs everything we heard about. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they stopped.

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<v Speaker 2>That was interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>They stop and not another one after cass even too

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<v Speaker 1>Refine filed her lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that, but yes, according to what he was able

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<v Speaker 3>to witness, he said that the freak off stopped.

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<v Speaker 2>However, didn't am I am I crazy here?

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<v Speaker 3>But didn't Jane testify to having one or maybe a

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<v Speaker 3>smaller version of one after the lawsuit and later in

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<v Speaker 3>the summer before he was arrested.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Was that a freak off? Or was that just a

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<v Speaker 2>see a modified hotel night?

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<v Speaker 1>See there you go? But and I believe that was

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<v Speaker 1>in Was that the one in Turks? Yes, we're piecing

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<v Speaker 1>all that. I cannot believe we have all this information,

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<v Speaker 1>but yes, he said he was not asked at all

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<v Speaker 1>to set up again. Now he stopped working for Ditty

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<v Speaker 1>pretty early as well, because he got arrested in early

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four. Correct, I do believe, but he said, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>all the hotel nights, all that it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was from his experience.

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<v Speaker 3>But I just did want to mention that Jane absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>testified to at least participating in a smaller version of

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<v Speaker 3>a freak off in the summer before he was arrested.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you make a good point here. Does a

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<v Speaker 1>freak golf need to include a certain number of people.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying that jokingly. I'm thinking back now,

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<v Speaker 1>was a freak golf just ditty in the corner and

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<v Speaker 1>watching someone have sex with his girlfriend? What else was

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<v Speaker 1>included in?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? My best best guess would be that after the

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<v Speaker 3>casie lost, so he realized he couldn't involve all these people.

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<v Speaker 3>It couldn't be the production it had been because of

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<v Speaker 3>the heat that was on him, or at least the

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<v Speaker 3>eyes that were on him. And so, yes, what we

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<v Speaker 3>heard Jane testified to might have been a smaller willing participants,

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<v Speaker 3>just a few people. Didn't want to involve a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of folks because didn't need any extra scrutiny. But he

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<v Speaker 3>may have modified what he did and who he involved

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of what the production value was.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This again. Like we said, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>they're moving along. We're keeping an eye on what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>We're telling you this stuff in real time. They're taking

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<v Speaker 1>a short break right now as we speak. But they

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<v Speaker 1>are only going to be in court until one o'clock today.

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<v Speaker 1>So Rogues Prosecution has one witness up there, a investigator

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<v Speaker 1>with is.

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<v Speaker 2>It homelands home insecurity homeland security.

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<v Speaker 1>Investigator up there, and I believe they have one more

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<v Speaker 1>to call and that's going to be it. And this

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<v Speaker 1>last one is going to be I think some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of investigator or something else like that. And then what

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<v Speaker 1>But all, y'all the jury, uh, they mentioned this morning

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<v Speaker 1>the judge is going is working on the jury instructions

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<v Speaker 1>with the defense team and the prosecution. He essentially told

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<v Speaker 1>them today we are going to start exchanging notes and

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<v Speaker 1>get these instructions ready, which are complicated. I have set

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<v Speaker 1>through listening to jury instructions before. I have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>how these people figure this out. I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>So that just lets us know another indication the end

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<v Speaker 1>is near.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they are getting ready to wrap up, and we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to continue, of course, to keep our eye on

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<v Speaker 3>that Manhattan lower that Lower Manhattan courtroom, and we will

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<v Speaker 3>bring you any updates if they're warranted. But we appreciate

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<v Speaker 3>you uh taking time to listen to the latest updates

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<v Speaker 2>But in the meantime, y'all enjoy your weekend.