1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 1: Hey, folks, It's Friday, June twentieth, and the Diddy trial 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: has resumed after being off for two days, and they 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: seem to be trying to make up some time this 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: morning with that. Welcome to this Diddy Trial Update edition 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: of Amy and TJ. We continue to keep you updated 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: and there's a lot to update folks about right now Robes. 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: As we speak, testimony is underway. But one of the 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: witnesses we've been waiting a long time to hear from, 9 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: Brendan Paul, has already been up and down. This is 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: a key witness. I'm a little surprised they're done with 11 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: him so quickly. 12 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: That's right. 13 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 3: Not only did he go through direct examination by the 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: prosecution in less than ninety minutes correct, then the defense 15 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 3: had their swing at him in cross examination and they 16 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 3: were done much sooner than that. 17 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: It looked like maybe, I mean minutes. 18 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: They asked him a few questions minutes at the most. 19 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: That was very surprising. A reminder here, Brendan Paul has 20 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: been waiting since Tuesday, maybe yes, to testify that he 21 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: was ready. Wednesday, court was abruptly canceled because a juror 22 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: got sick, had vertigo Thursday out for June tenth. He 23 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: comes back today. This is a guy who knew, who 24 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: saw a lot, who was right next to him right 25 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: up until twenty twenty four when everything came apart and 26 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: they I don't know, I don't know what I was expecting, 27 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: but I was expecting there to be a lot of 28 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: grilling of this guy. 29 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 3: Yes, I thought he might be on the stand much 30 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 3: much longer. He was actually named in at least three 31 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 3: of the civil lawsuits, and in one of those lawsuits 32 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 3: described as Diddy's drug mule, he was arrested and charged, 33 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 3: but because he is now testifying on behalf of the prosecution, 34 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 3: those charges were dropped. But something he said emphatically today 35 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 3: on the stand that he was absolutely not a drug mule, 36 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 3: even though he did carry some drugs. 37 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: You know what were some of the things he ended 38 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: up explaining. Everybody's been calling him a drug mule. Listening 39 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: to his testimony today, I said, Okay, I see why 40 00:01:57,840 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: he takes offense to that, and I see why maybe 41 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: I shouldn't be used. Before we get to all of 42 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: that with him, one note, we need to button up 43 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: his juror number seven. Yes, right, one juror had been 44 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: dismissed number six for so inconsistent statements about where he 45 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: actually lived, and they've been talking about during number seven. 46 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: It seems like all week we knew it was on 47 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: the table that maybe another juror could get excused. Judge 48 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 1: finally addressed it this morning. 49 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: Yes, so we did learn that it was the defense 50 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: who was asking that this juror during number seven be removed. 51 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 3: The allegation was that he may have talked about the 52 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: case in some way to a work colleague. The judge 53 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: said he investigated it and was not going to excuse 54 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 3: the jurors or juror number seven remains on the jury, 55 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 3: and we know that that sick juror must have showed 56 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 3: back up to court today much better. Vertigo issues resolved 57 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: because there are no other alternate jurors being put on 58 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 3: the jury, so just one alternate juror now has assumed 59 00:02:58,680 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 3: that position. 60 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: Were you thrown off as well? I saw one update 61 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: this morning. I can't remember which reporter in the room 62 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: that said there was a delay this morning. They had 63 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: to be in recess for a short time because not 64 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: everybody in the jury had shown up yet. So it 65 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: didn't I'll go but a few minutes. But when I 66 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: saw that update, I said, Lord, here we go again. Yes, 67 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 1: it's just been a week of jury issues. 68 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 2: Yes, so thankfully all the jurors are seated. 69 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 3: They have been listening intently to the testimony that's taking 70 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 3: place today. Again, the prosecution has gone through Brendan Paul, 71 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 3: and we'll talk about what he testified to. But they're 72 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 3: already at the next I believe the second to last 73 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: witness now will stand Homeland Security agent, and then there's 74 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 3: only one more to go, and we're assuming at that 75 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: point the prosecution is going to wrap their case. 76 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 2: Could it happen today at this rate? Who knows. 77 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: But it's only half a day, right, So maybe that's 78 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 3: why they are getting through things very quickly, and a 79 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 3: lot of folks think that they'll technically end up wrapping 80 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: their case on Monday. 81 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: Speaking of juror issues, this is not a negative thing. 82 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: But the reason they're only doing a half day to 83 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: day is because one of the needs to attend a 84 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: son's graduation, which again I compliment the federal government for 85 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: allowing that, but it's we had no jury issues at 86 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: scene for the first five weeks, and all of a 87 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: sudden we talking about a juror every single day. But 88 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: it's underway now. I can imagine this going pretty quickly 89 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: as well. But Brendan Paul was the guy Robesen. He 90 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: was talked about so much. Yes, drug mule, it's just 91 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: something that looks fun in a headline. But this how 92 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: you could argue, this was a kid fresh out of college, 93 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: happy as hell to be working for Sean Diddy Combs. 94 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: And he was. He knew going in just how demanding 95 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: this job was going to because folks warned him what 96 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 1: he was going to have to do. 97 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is a smart kid. 98 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: He was a basketball player at Syracuse University. He had 99 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,119 Speaker 3: a wonderful resume and was I'm sure and talked about 100 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 3: being very excited to work for Sean Diddy Combs. 101 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: What age at the time, Well. 102 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 3: He would have been fresh out of college for twenty 103 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,280 Speaker 3: two Yeah, because he's twenty six right now now, I believe. 104 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 3: And right out of college he was working up to 105 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 3: one hundred hours a week. But we all did that 106 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 3: when we first got out of school, at least you 107 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 3: and I did. He had a much better starting salary 108 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: than you and I did, seventy five thousand, he said. 109 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 3: He got a year to begin with, and then eventually 110 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 3: worked his way up to one hundred K. 111 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: He tripled my starting salary exactly the same. I didn't 112 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: have to do a lot of stuff he did. 113 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: But still I didn't have to carry drugs or do 114 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 3: anything illegal. But I was working about ninety two one 115 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 3: hundred hours a week for twenty two thousand dollars a year. 116 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 2: His carried a lot more. 117 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 3: Risk and punishment than mine, however, according to his testimony. 118 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: But he was He said he was happy to do it. 119 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: He learned a lot from Sean ditty Combs. And what 120 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: was the interview process? How does that work? 121 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: Right? 122 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: When you're going to interview for Sean? Didty Combs all right? 123 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: They said he went to his house out in California 124 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: and didn't meet with Diddy. Do I have this right? 125 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: It was KK, Yes, that he met with the infamous KK, 126 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: the chief of staff to Shawn Ditty Combs met with 127 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: her and three days later he was working. 128 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 2: That's right. 129 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 3: He was told that if he had a girlfriend, he 130 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 3: should break up with her and he should say goodbye 131 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: to his family. So they told him right off the bat, 132 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 3: like you cannot have any other distractions. You can't have 133 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 3: any other personal distractions. That is intimidating. I don't know 134 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 3: that as much as I was excited about my career, 135 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: and I didn't I wasn't afraid of the hours with 136 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: a low salary. But if you told me you can't 137 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: have a personal life at all, that's that's a lot 138 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 3: to ask. 139 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: See, that's the uh wow. It was one of our 140 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: quotes this week. Right, your success in life is before 141 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: thirty is the thing you say yes to. After thirty 142 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: is the stuff you say based on things you say 143 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: no to. But right out of college, I can't imagine. Look, 144 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 1: we were doing in a different role. We're not comparing 145 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: ourselves to this kid. But we go into a job, 146 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: a new career, we're taking off after college. He is 147 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: going and trying to he's trying to make a name 148 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: for himself, and it's just desperate to get into this industry. 149 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: And he's getting into the industry working under someone who 150 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: is considered an icon at this point the industry, considered 151 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: a genius in the industry, very successful in this industry. 152 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: He was willing to do whatever. 153 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 3: It reminds me, don't laugh at me about the movie 154 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 3: Devilwaar's Prada, where it's supposedly based loosely on anawintour's career 155 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 3: in life. But if you were an assistant and you 156 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: wanted to get into the fashion industry, if you're an 157 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 3: assistant you want to get into the music industry, whatever 158 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: it is, you meet with this person who is considered 159 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 3: the mogul, the top of their game, who has made 160 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: or broken potential artists. So yeah, you will go through 161 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 3: the abuse and the punishment and the long hours and 162 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: the no. 163 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 2: Personal life to get ahead. 164 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: However, when someone starts asking you to do something illegal, 165 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: that is a completely different situation. 166 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: And he certainly describes that. 167 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: Okay, we go buy that for a second. Again, I'm 168 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: trying to been hearing about Brendon Paul. Now hearing his 169 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: own testimony, his own words, you think about some of 170 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: the things differently. But I can't imagine. Yes, everybody would 171 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: love to say that absolutely I would never do something 172 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: like that, But when you're twenty three years old and 173 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: your dream is coming true next to someone that you 174 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: look up to this much, this accomplished, that's at the 175 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: top of the game. Yes, I could say I wouldn't 176 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: do anything illegal. I can say that's sitting here now right. 177 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: But at twenty three, if I don't know, Bernard Shaw 178 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: at CNN told me, hey, man, you can work for me, 179 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: but you gotta do that. I'm not sure if I 180 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: would have ever said no to somebody I idolized like that. 181 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: And perhaps that's part of the reasoning why the FEDS 182 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 3: were willing to drop charges against him to hear what 183 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 3: really happened, because they understood the reasoning perhaps behind why 184 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 3: someone his age, or why so many of these purported 185 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: victims might have done what they did in order to 186 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 3: have a larger goal met, or to do something that 187 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 3: they couldn't have done without Ditty. So there's an understanding perhaps, 188 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 3: and that's why there have been so many immunity deals 189 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 3: as they try to build their case against Ditty. 190 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: I should make clear Bernie Shaw was never accused of anything. 191 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: Loved Bernard Shaw. I just looked up to him, and 192 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: I'm not saying I would have done anything legal, But 193 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: point being is, just put yourself in that position as 194 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: a young twenty two year old trying to make it somewhere, 195 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: and this guy says, yes, come on and be on 196 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: my team. That lets you, gives you more insight into 197 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: his where his. 198 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,239 Speaker 3: Head was some of the other interesting parts of his testimony, 199 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 3: And again a lot of this was just reinforcing what 200 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 3: we had other we had already heard from other assistants. 201 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: But he said he went once three days without sleep, 202 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 3: got a couple of naps in, but he had to 203 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 3: take adderall and he said on rare occasions he would 204 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 3: also take cocaine to try and stay awake. He said, 205 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,559 Speaker 3: before he worked for Diddy, the most he had ever 206 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 3: done The only drug he'd ever done was smoke some weed, 207 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 3: So this was not something he had ever been used 208 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 3: to up until this position. 209 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: Did he say we were talking about loyalty earlier, We'll 210 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: get into that him being arrested, were talking about loyalty. 211 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 1: He didn't tell it was Ditty's drugs. He also said 212 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 1: he did drugs with. 213 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: Diddy, Yes, to prove to prove loyalty. 214 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:53,599 Speaker 1: Did you see what drug was that? Do you know? 215 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know if he specified what drug 216 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 2: it was. 217 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: He said that he didn't think he had the full 218 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 3: effect when he took it, but he did it to prove, 219 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 3: like literally. 220 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 2: Did he the presumption was it? 221 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 3: Did he said, Hey, do this with me and I'll 222 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 3: trust you because we will have both done this together. Yes, 223 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 3: but he also mentioned does lots of other assistants have 224 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 3: mentioned that he got fired. The funny thing is he's 225 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,679 Speaker 3: lost count, he said two or three times. Usually if 226 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 3: you get fired, you remember that pretty pretty like specifically. 227 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: I remember the one time I got fired. 228 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 2: I remember the one time I got fired too, Babe. 229 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 2: It's so funny. I think it happened at the same time. 230 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: It was the only time, the only time I've ever 231 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: been fired in my life. 232 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 3: But yes, I just thought it was funny that he 233 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 3: said he's been fired two or three times. 234 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 2: You lost count. That's interesting. 235 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: And one of them was really messed up. Was this 236 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: the fanny pack? Yeah, lululemen fanny pack. 237 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 3: Got the Lululemon fanny pack before they went out on 238 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 3: it was a walk. 239 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: It was a walk, so he didn't bring the fanny pack. 240 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: This It still it stood out to me for the yes, 241 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: ridiculousness of firing somebody for not bringing a bag, but 242 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: the specificity of a Lulu Limon fanny pack. Did he 243 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: needed that fanny pack so bad and he was so 244 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: mad he didn't have it he fired. 245 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: Can you imagine the moment when he asked for the 246 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 3: fanny pack and Brendan Paul realized he didn't have it. 247 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 2: That had to be horrific. 248 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: He knew what was going And. 249 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 3: Then here's the other interesting part about that testimony. Part 250 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 3: of the testimony, he said that other employees told him, 251 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 3: don't worry about it, just lay low for a few days, 252 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 3: and eventually that's exactly what happened. 253 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: Oh it's KK, he said. Did he in that interaction 254 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: after he found out he didn't have the bag, he 255 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: didn't look at him and say you're fired? He said, did? 256 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: He told him go call KK and tell her that 257 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: you're fired, is what he told him to do. And 258 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: the chief, his dad tells him, just lay low, it's 259 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: gonna be fine. And sure enough, he said, a few 260 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: days later, KK was the one that called Brendan Paul 261 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 1: and said set up a free golf, set up a 262 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: hotel room. And it was never brought up again. That's wild, 263 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: that kind of it's a tough way to live. It's 264 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: a tough way. 265 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 2: To operate in always on edge. 266 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're at the whim of someone else's mood that 267 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 3: you can never predict. And that is a really talk 268 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: about anxiety inducing when you never know what to expect, 269 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: what's going to happen, and what thing you're gonna do 270 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 3: that's going to set him off or make him happy. 271 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 3: And that's what all of these folks have been testifying to. 272 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: And to think that the guy, he's already his behavior 273 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: is what it is. But is he high right now? 274 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: What is he high on? If he's not high, he 275 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: might not be in a good mood. If he's high 276 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: on the wrong thing, Like where is to try to 277 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: predict that? This is incredible? But the drugs. We've been 278 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: hearing a lot about the drugs. This went in line 279 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: with a lot of what people were saying, but he 280 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: got into some more specifics about which drugs they used. 281 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: He got into more specifics about what he was required 282 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: to do and to purchase. They had a drug dealers 283 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: on standby with they had names. They had so many 284 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: people to text who could sometimes bring the drugs to 285 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: the house. Sometimes he would go pick up packages and 286 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: the stuff was already paid for. Others, times he would 287 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: go and spend a few hundred dollars and have to 288 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: buy the drugs another time. He said, at least once 289 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: every two months, they would just get a new supply weed. 290 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: They would get a pound of it forty every two months. 291 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 3: And he said that he definitely had to buy thousands 292 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 3: of dollars worth of drugs. And when he asked, was 293 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 3: asked which ones marijuana, cocaine, pink cocaine, ecstasy, and ketamine 294 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 3: is what he said, and like, yes, it's so bizarre 295 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 3: to feel like we now know the names of the 296 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 3: dealers of Ditty's dealer's guido. We've heard that one several times, 297 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:40,319 Speaker 3: one stop, baby girl and ov so even he remembered 298 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 3: the names of the folks that were just basically on 299 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:43,839 Speaker 3: speed dial. 300 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: At this point. 301 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: You could reel off names of drug dealers for Diddy. 302 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: I can reel off mail escorts. 303 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,439 Speaker 3: We have this information, yes, And you also can reel 304 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 3: off what was in that Gucci pouch? Can you not toiletries? Lights, 305 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 3: candles in sense, condoms, liquor soup? He like chicken noodle soup. 306 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 3: We know that astroglide, the baby oil, we know is 307 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 3: carried in a separate water cooler or a little lunch 308 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 3: cooler sort of apparatus. 309 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's bizarre the details. 310 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 3: That we now have come to know, and every single 311 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: depending on you know, We're talking about over a decade, 312 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 3: different different girls, different assistants. 313 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: They all say the same things. 314 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: Speaking of different girls there, he did mention Jane, So 315 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: Jane the last Jane Doe to testify against Ditty on 316 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: the stand that would have been the one who was 317 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: dating Ditty at the time that Brendan Paul was working there. 318 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: He talked about these hotel nights and he well, he 319 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: mentioned about her specifically. He said he would usually talk 320 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: to her before the freak offs, but he said he 321 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: would pretty much always end up talking to her after, 322 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: not once did he. Ever, He said there was never 323 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: a hint of her not wanting to be there, being 324 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: hesitant in any way, needing help in any way, and 325 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: being anything other than an enthusiastic participant. 326 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 3: I know, I mean, and that is damning as hell 327 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 3: to the prosecution. He said that Jane, from his perspective 328 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: what he witnessed, was not forced into spending nights in 329 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 3: those hotel rooms, and asked by the defense if Jane 330 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 3: was ever sorry or not a willing participant, Paul didn't 331 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 3: just say no, He. 332 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 2: Said absolutely not. 333 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 3: I thought that was interesting, and he also denied that 334 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 3: anything he did for Diddy amounted to being. 335 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: Part of a criminal enterprise. 336 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 3: So that is putting it into perspective for jurors from 337 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 3: the defense's standpoint, but he certainly seemed to have done 338 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 3: a lot of good for the defense. I don't know 339 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 3: how much good he did for the prosecution. Again, no 340 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 3: legal expert here, but it seemed like the defense had 341 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 3: some wins with Brendan Paul's cross examination with some. 342 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 1: Direct questions to him that he answered. And this is 343 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: a if you've seen the pictures, he's out there, he's 344 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: twenty seven. 345 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 2: You said he'll be twenty seven at the end of 346 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: the year. 347 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: He looks like a fresh kid out of college still 348 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. And we mentioned him being 349 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: a Syracuse basketball player. I want to put this in 350 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: some context. They said that was a part of the 351 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: reason he got the gig is because he could help. 352 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: Did he with his workouts, with his nutrition and some 353 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: of that stuff. This was a guy who was at 354 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: the end of the bench at Syracuse. I am not 355 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: this is not an insult, but some context for him. 356 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: In two years, he got into sixteen games. In two years, 357 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: he played a total of seventeen minutes. In two years, 358 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: he made exactly one shot in a game in two years. 359 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: He rode the end of the bench. That's fine. He 360 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: contributed in the locker room and all kinds of other ways. 361 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm not knocking or taking away from that. What I'm 362 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: saying is, when you the context there, he's kind of 363 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: a or what kind of a scrawny kid. You don't 364 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: He's not an imposing figure, and he's been described as 365 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: having a babyface up there. 366 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: On the stat He absolutely does have a babyface, yes, 367 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 3: one hundred percent. So he doesn't look like some deviant 368 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 3: criminal who's you know, doing all of Comb's nasty bidding 369 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 3: for like just this, Like it's just he doesn't fit 370 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 3: the image at all of who you would expect to 371 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 3: be doing Ditty's dirty deed, so to speak. 372 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: And some of the dirty cleanup he mentioned gloves. 373 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: I mean. 374 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: Gloves for your job. That's that's tough. 375 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: He needed gloves to clean up after his boss in 376 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: a hotel room. He did it for sanitary reasons, of course, 377 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: it makes sense. But that was just another one of 378 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: the details that came out. And this makes sense ro 379 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: but he confirmed all those freak offs everything we heard about. Uh, 380 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: they stopped. 381 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 2: That was interesting. 382 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: They stop and not another one after cass even too 383 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: Refine filed her lawsuit. 384 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 3: Yeah that, but yes, according to what he was able 385 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,360 Speaker 3: to witness, he said that the freak off stopped. 386 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 2: However, didn't am I am I crazy here? 387 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: But didn't Jane testify to having one or maybe a 388 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 3: smaller version of one after the lawsuit and later in 389 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: the summer before he was arrested. 390 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: Am I okay? 391 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 3: Now? 392 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 2: Was that a freak off? Or was that just a 393 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 2: see a modified hotel night? 394 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: See there you go? But and I believe that was 395 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: in Was that the one in Turks? Yes, we're piecing 396 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: all that. I cannot believe we have all this information, 397 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: but yes, he said he was not asked at all 398 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: to set up again. Now he stopped working for Ditty 399 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: pretty early as well, because he got arrested in early 400 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Correct, I do believe, but he said, yes, 401 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: all the hotel nights, all that it. 402 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: Was from his experience. 403 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 3: But I just did want to mention that Jane absolutely 404 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 3: testified to at least participating in a smaller version of 405 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 3: a freak off in the summer before he was arrested. 406 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: I want you make a good point here. Does a 407 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: freak golf need to include a certain number of people. 408 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that jokingly. I'm thinking back now, 409 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: was a freak golf just ditty in the corner and 410 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: watching someone have sex with his girlfriend? What else was 411 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: included in? 412 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 3: Right? My best best guess would be that after the 413 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 3: casie lost, so he realized he couldn't involve all these people. 414 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 3: It couldn't be the production it had been because of 415 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 3: the heat that was on him, or at least the 416 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 3: eyes that were on him. And so, yes, what we 417 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: heard Jane testified to might have been a smaller willing participants, 418 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 3: just a few people. Didn't want to involve a lot 419 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 3: of folks because didn't need any extra scrutiny. But he 420 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 3: may have modified what he did and who he involved 421 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 3: in terms of what the production value was. 422 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This again. Like we said, folks, 423 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: they're moving along. We're keeping an eye on what's happening. 424 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: We're telling you this stuff in real time. They're taking 425 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,719 Speaker 1: a short break right now as we speak. But they 426 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: are only going to be in court until one o'clock today. 427 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: So Rogues Prosecution has one witness up there, a investigator 428 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: with is. 429 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: It homelands home insecurity homeland security. 430 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: Investigator up there, and I believe they have one more 431 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: to call and that's going to be it. And this 432 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: last one is going to be I think some kind 433 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: of investigator or something else like that. And then what 434 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: But all, y'all the jury, uh, they mentioned this morning 435 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: the judge is going is working on the jury instructions 436 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: with the defense team and the prosecution. He essentially told 437 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: them today we are going to start exchanging notes and 438 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: get these instructions ready, which are complicated. I have set 439 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 1: through listening to jury instructions before. I have no idea 440 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: how these people figure this out. I have no idea. 441 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: So that just lets us know another indication the end 442 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: is near. 443 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, they are getting ready to wrap up, and we're 444 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 3: going to continue, of course, to keep our eye on 445 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 3: that Manhattan lower that Lower Manhattan courtroom, and we will 446 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 3: bring you any updates if they're warranted. But we appreciate 447 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 3: you uh taking time to listen to the latest updates 448 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 3: on the Didy trial and again keep checking back our 449 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 3: feed because we may have more updates for you as 450 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 3: they are warranted. 451 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 2: But in the meantime, y'all enjoy your weekend.