1 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,639 Speaker 1: Podcast starts now. Welcome all to what used to be 2 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: known as Stradia Lab. But for today, the one magical 3 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: day of the year, it's Katia Lab. Happy Pride, Happy Pride. 4 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 2: Happy pride to all, Happy pride to. 5 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 3: Everyone in America only. 6 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. 7 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 3: So let's start there. 8 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: Of course, happy pride. 9 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 3: And when we say pride, we mean we're proud to 10 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 3: be American, and. 11 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: On top of America only. I'd like to narrow it 12 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: even further to specifically the coasts. Yeah, the coasts. 13 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: And when we say LGBTQ pride, we mean gay men. 14 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. So we so gay men, We're proud to 15 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: be gay men in the United States of America, specifically 16 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,040 Speaker 3: the large cities, that's right, And of course not every 17 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: large city. 18 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: And of course not every large city. I'm speaking specifically 19 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: about the pride of being in a creative city. 20 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and what would qualify as a creative city. 21 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 1: Do you think I think it would count as either 22 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: New York or Los Angeles? 23 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 3: Do you think is just those two? 24 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: Oh? Actually, I'm getting word, it's just New York. 25 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: That's what I thought. You hadn't gotten the memo. 26 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: Yet, And in fact, I'm getting word it's only like 27 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: a few specific parts of Brooklyn. 28 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 3: Well, but also downtown Manhattan. Well, you don't think it's 29 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 3: downtown Manhattan. 30 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: I'm just not sure anymore. 31 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 3: I have to tell you a lot of parts of 32 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: Brooklyn are even less creative than like the Upper east 33 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 3: Side at this point. 34 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not including all of Brooklyn, George, I'm which part? Okay, Bushwick? Wrong? 35 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 3: Okay, you've been gone too long. You've been gone too long, Sam, 36 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: Bushwick is now all families that live in two bedrooms 37 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 3: and they have five nannies, and all of them you 38 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: know they are on paper creatives. But what that means 39 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 3: that they work in advertising? 40 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, then I don't feel pride anymore. How about that? Wow, 41 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: it's official. If I can't feel pride in proud to 42 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: be an American, and by American, I mean a person 43 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: in a creative city, and by a creative city, I 44 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: mean New York, and by a part of New York, 45 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: I mean just one part and that means Bushwick, Brooklyn, 46 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: then I'm not proud anymore. 47 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 3: I actually think we can make it even more specific 48 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 3: and say that pride is only for if you are 49 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 3: Sam Taggart or George saveres and it kind of excuse me, 50 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 3: we haven't brought you in yet. And I think that 51 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: it can be Like there's something beautiful in making Pride 52 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 3: more exclusionary rather than more inclusive. Don't you think? Wow? 53 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: This is so we're taking the debate about like whether 54 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 1: by girls bringing their boyfriends to Pride is good or bad. 55 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: It's not about that. 56 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: It's not about that. It's are you me or are 57 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: you you? 58 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I'm sort of tired of trying to negotiate 59 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 3: who's included, who's excluded. I know one person who has 60 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 3: included me. I've always been there. I've always been there. 61 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: I've gone every year. I've gone to some event. 62 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: You know. 63 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 3: Some years I go to like a big parade. Some 64 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 3: years I go to maybe some counterprogramming, or maybe I'll 65 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 3: go to Reese Beach and just with my girls and 66 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: we'll be like, God, we're so glad we got out 67 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: of the city for the big parade because we don't 68 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 3: want to be around all the riff raff, you know, 69 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: some of whom are not even included in Pride, And 70 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 3: so I think it's nice to you know, if you 71 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 3: look at the data, I've always been included and if 72 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 3: you look at the data, you've always been included. So 73 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: how can we start there and then start building, rebuilding 74 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: the LGBTQ plus community around just the two of us. 75 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: I think that's an amazing idea, what an awesome orbit 76 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: to be a part of. 77 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: And you know what's interesting today, actually we have chosen 78 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: the third person that we are inviting into the new 79 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: and improved LGBTQ plus community. 80 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: And it starts with one. 81 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 3: It starts with one, and I was like, you know what, 82 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 3: let's like, start with someone we trust, someone we think 83 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: is definitely LGBTQ plus, Like I've seen her at Pride events. 84 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: I know that she associates with a certain kind of community, 85 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 3: and I think we can start with her and then 86 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 3: as we go we can just rebuild. 87 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: Okay, the rebuilding starts now. Please welcome to the podcast, 88 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:24,239 Speaker 1: Patti Harrison. 89 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. I'm sorry I had an outburst. 90 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 4: I just didn't realize you were building up to including 91 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 4: me in that. So I'm really glad that it went there, 92 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 4: and it taught me a little lesson about being a 93 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 4: little more patient about you know, that maybe I could 94 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 4: be included at the end of something that it sounds 95 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 4: like at the start of the conversation about it, I'm 96 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 4: not included, and I think conclusion is more important now 97 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 4: than it was before, but not ever. 98 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 3: Okay, that's a really good point, Patty. So when would 99 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 3: you say inclusion was most important and when would you 100 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 3: say it was least important? 101 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't feel qualified to talk. 102 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: On them, but you're one of the three, one of 103 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: the three only l G B, t Q plus people. 104 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 4: Okay, So I have to say I what I am? Woman? Born, 105 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 4: woman I have. I was born with eggs, ovaries, vagina. 106 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: Really when I was born, it was really small. Breasts 107 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 4: grew as I grew older. 108 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 3: Weren't you weren't you born with big double d's. 109 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 4: Oh, I guess we're just gonna go there, Yes, just 110 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 4: gonna go there, go there. 111 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: A D D. 112 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 3: Oh, it was single D. 113 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's they thought my mom thought she was 114 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 4: having triplets in the ultrasound. 115 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it was just your huge breast. 116 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 4: To yeah, each breast, but it was it still was 117 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 4: as much pain, I think as delivering triplets, because they 118 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 4: had to deliver me at first, then the left one 119 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 4: than the right one, and the ass was huge too. 120 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's no measuring system, so you can't say 121 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: how big exactly. 122 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're still so behind. 123 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: Actually, why isn't there a system? 124 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 3: That's a really good point that why it literally like 125 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 3: it's just as much of a big deal. And I 126 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 3: actually say this, as you know, I'll say it a 127 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 3: man with wider than average hips, you know, often I 128 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: will have to google white hips. 129 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 4: Wait, is that true? I've never cloked to. 130 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: That about you. 131 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I'm not saying it's I'm not saying 132 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 3: I look like a like a like a monster from 133 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: a cartoon or something. But I'm saying, you know, there 134 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 3: are certain proportions that you that the default man has 135 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: and and my hips are slightly wider. 136 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: And I would like to say that as someone since 137 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: moving to Los Angeles, my I've noticed my ass getting 138 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: smaller and smaller by the day, and I would like 139 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: to measure actually how much ass is being lost daily. 140 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 3: I do want to just follow that up Sam by saying, 141 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: it's interesting you're saying it since you moved to Los Angeles, 142 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 3: when in fact, I believe it's because of an injury 143 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: you can't exercise. Is that correct? 144 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: But because of this very injury, I'm doing way more 145 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: leg and glute work. 146 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 3: Oh, so your ass should be getting bigger. 147 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: It should be getting bigger, and yet and yet, and 148 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: yet the day to day life in Los Angeles just 149 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: doesn't work the ass in the same way. 150 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 4: Can you can you tell me what the injury was? 151 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: Or is that through my back out I have had 152 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: her needed disc Oh, I'm sorry. Doing physical therapy back. 153 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 4: Pain is really tricky and complicated and hard. 154 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: Oh it's the real deal. 155 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 4: Well, I'm I'm sorry it's making your ass shrink. 156 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 3: I sort of. I think I think all chronic pain 157 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 3: is fake. But back to Patty's Patty's various qualities. 158 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 4: Earth, So I only date man and I've never been 159 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 4: sexually attracted to women. 160 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so you but the men can be gay? 161 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: You think men can be gay? Do you think women 162 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: can be gay? 163 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 4: Know the men that i'm can be gay? 164 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: Right? 165 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 4: And I think that makes I? 166 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: Are they? By then? 167 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 4: I don't that's for them. I can't speak for them. 168 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 3: Sure, do you think, Patty, the fact that you date 169 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 3: gay men makes you l G B T Q. Plus 170 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: I think. 171 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 4: I should be in there. I'm going after him, I say, 172 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 4: I like. I like the way you Sashet. I can't. 173 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 4: I can't fan, I can't find it. A straight guy 174 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 4: at at, I don't. I don't know what a straight 175 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 4: place is in l A. In Chelsea Peers at the. 176 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 1: Golf he brought up a gay location. 177 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 3: Chelsea Peers is gay. 178 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: Chelsea Peers is like where gay guys go to hook up. 179 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 4: No, it's where straight guys go to play golf. They 180 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 4: go to hit, they go there to dry. 181 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, there is a driving range there, but 182 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: historically it's like sort of a shorthand for like fag 183 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: you know. 184 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 3: It's like, really, I'm starting to think, like, should you 185 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: have been the first person we added to the career community. 186 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 4: No, don't second guess this. I'm so excited to be 187 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 4: included in everything. And I'm sure someone in the other 188 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 4: room is screaming at me to get closer to the mic. 189 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can feel myself screaming at myself. 190 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 3: So I do want to go back to Patty. When 191 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 3: you think inclusion was most important and when you think 192 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 3: it was least important. 193 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 4: I think inclusion was probably most important. I think in 194 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 4: the period of when when sea life was starting to grow, 195 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 4: the fins were turning into limbs and they were starting 196 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 4: to crawl ashore because I think if you weren't included 197 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 4: in that, you were just staying in the water and 198 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 4: you weren't get getting to enjoy the many benefits of land. 199 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 4: The land, I. 200 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: Think it was more queer to grow limbs or to 201 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: keep fins. 202 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 4: Such a good question, you know, as much as I 203 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 4: would like to say growing fins is or keeping your 204 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 4: fins as queer because of like The Little Mermaid, I 205 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 4: actually think The Little Mermaid is not a story about 206 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 4: like beautiful transformation. It's about the power of how you 207 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 4: need to change from the thing that you were that 208 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 4: was beautiful into the thing that everyone likes and accepts 209 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 4: in order to be in society. And I think that 210 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 4: is a straight, straight, straight story. So I think actually 211 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 4: growing legs to get away from mermaids like that and 212 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 4: become a straight person in society, I think that narrative 213 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 4: is also straight. And so I'm arguing with myself right 214 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 4: now out loud as I'm talking to you both. 215 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 3: Maybe the first few people to grow legs were like 216 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 3: punk rock, you know, because that because they were in 217 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 3: the minority, they were doing something new. But then they 218 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: started growing a critical mass of people who had left eggs, 219 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 3: and at a certain point it actually became assimilation for 220 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: you to also grow legs and get on land, you 221 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 3: know what I mean. 222 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's an incredible hypothesis, George, I really 223 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 4: I can see that. I think it would probably be 224 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 4: really difficult for the ones not growing legs around them 225 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 4: to look at the ones growing legs and be like, 226 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 4: what what happened to my partner or what happened well, 227 00:11:23,679 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 4: and they weren't saying partner then, because that has been 228 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 4: like a thing that people are just now adjusting to 229 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 4: what happened to my boyfriend? 230 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think yeah, back in the times of early evolution, 231 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 3: everyone was saying only boyfriend and girlfriend and not partner. 232 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: Well, I think whales and dolphins are potentially sort of 233 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: the old queens of the world, you know, they're sort 234 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: of like, well back in my like in my day 235 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: that we didn't have all this bullshit. You were either 236 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: you were queer or you weren't, you know, it was 237 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: sort of that vibe. Oh. 238 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 4: Well, what I will say is whales and dolphins are 239 00:11:54,840 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 4: actually like a more recent evolved species. Yes, actually sharks 240 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 4: have experienced less change. 241 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Like. 242 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 4: The hundreds of millions of years. I guess they've experienced. 243 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 4: Dolphins and whales are relatively. 244 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 3: And that's the sense they are. In that sense they are, 245 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 3: sharks are sort of similar to old you know, like 246 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 3: an old conservative, regressive, regressive person. You know, they have 247 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 3: they have the bite to them, and they're a little 248 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 3: bit like this is my turf, get off my grand 249 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 3: chorino Clint Eastwood code. 250 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, being like I hate what you are, but you're 251 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 4: lucky I'm here. That's right to save you from gangs. 252 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 3: But then you know, of course, it also goes all 253 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 3: the way around where people become so afraid of sharks 254 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 3: and become so anti shark that then sharks are in 255 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 3: fact under attack in the way that you know, certain 256 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 3: boomers in America like don't have a pension. 257 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, sharks are under attack in the way that maybe 258 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 4: like transgender people are trying to use a bathroom. Wow, 259 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,239 Speaker 4: like like they say that sharks they think sharks are dangerous. 260 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 4: They build up this like fake fear that sharks are 261 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 4: going to go into the bathroom and like, oh, in 262 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 4: hurt women when sharks can't literally can't go into the 263 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 4: bathroom because they are in the water. 264 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: Oh my god. So this is I really like the idea. 265 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 3: I hadn't thought about it like this starting a metaphor 266 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 3: but then collapsing the divide between the reil and the metaphor. 267 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 3: So the metaphor is that sharks are like trans people, 268 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 3: but then the reasoning is that they couldn't go into 269 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 3: the bathroom because there's sharks they're in the water. 270 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 271 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to say that, you know, metaphors aside. Yeah, 272 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: there's this thing. I read an article that was about 273 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: how sharks are like, uh, being more protect did by 274 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: environmentalists and so like beaches actually are more dangerous, and 275 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: I'm like, wait. 276 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: No, this is the give and take. The shark metaphors 277 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: cand of apply to every single thing in life, which 278 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 3: is they are deadly, but we have to protect them. 279 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 3: And our role in this world as people is to 280 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 3: figure out that paradox. 281 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. I do think that sharks are naturally in that 282 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 4: environment and they're a sign of a healthy ecosystem. And 283 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 4: I think if you're in any area where there's like 284 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 4: no fish at all, then that's a sign that the 285 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 4: ecosystem is in peril, or maybe you're swimming in like 286 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 4: dirty water where they're dumping chemicals. It's just an inherent 287 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 4: risk of going into the ocean if you like to 288 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 4: swim in the ocean. But a lot of sharks, if 289 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 4: you look at the statistics there are, it's kind of 290 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 4: astronomically low. It is so insanely, insanely unprobable that you 291 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 4: will ever get bittime. 292 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: But like so many people like say, they're they're in 293 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: the beach. They're at the beach maybe once a summer. 294 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: You know, the way I'm hitting the beach, my odds 295 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: are going up astronomically. 296 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 3: You think you're especially in danger, Sam, because you're going 297 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 3: to the beach a lot over. 298 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: The South especially, I'm I'm victim number one. Plus they 299 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: you know, I know how sharks think. And they're gonna 300 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: see me frolic and they're gonna say, I'm gonna take 301 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:36,359 Speaker 1: him down a peg. Yeah, you splash a splashing, I'm flipping. 302 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,359 Speaker 1: I'm riding the waves. 303 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 4: They say you don't trim your nails so that they're 304 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 4: like your tonails are scraping yourself and you're getting a 305 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 4: little cut through. 306 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Blood is always flying everywhere I go because I 307 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: live so freely that that blood flies out of my skin, 308 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: and and so I know that I'm a target. Uh. 309 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 4: I think that's really scary. I think with like the 310 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 4: HIV bringing that up, and and I feel like connecting 311 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 4: in my brain right now, I feel like it's coming 312 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 4: basically like the AIDS crisis. It's like that even though 313 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 4: that like gay people aren't the only people get AIDS, 314 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 4: they became kind of like this target target demographic for 315 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 4: like the way the narrative publicly try to add that 316 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 4: as like another way, the gay community is like a 317 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 4: pariah in some way, or that they're unfit. They if 318 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 4: we allow them to grow, they won't be able to 319 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 4: take care of themselves because they don't have self control. 320 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 4: Beach life is not necessarily like intrinsically gay, though I 321 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 4: would say being gay is intrinsic to beach life. But 322 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 4: I think like straight because straight people love the beach 323 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 4: and they love to splash and swim. But I think 324 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 4: when the way gay people swim like you do, I 325 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 4: think it subjects them to a higher rate of a 326 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 4: higher risk of shark attacks. 327 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 3: Shark attacks, of shark attacks, we have to be. 328 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 4: Really careful not to correlate those things. 329 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 3: You're absolutely right, Patty, and I think it's like in 330 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 3: the same way that during the AIDS crisis, organizations like 331 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 3: would sort of promote safe sex rather than promoting like, 332 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 3: I don't know, conversion therapy. We need we need a 333 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 3: like a harm reduction model for the epidemic of gay 334 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 3: guys being bitten by sharks because they like the beach 335 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 3: so much. 336 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, it's like, don't go swimming right after you've 337 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 4: been like gaped. No, don't laugh. There are odds that 338 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 4: you have experienced more more substantial micro tears if your 339 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:48,239 Speaker 4: anus has been kind of worked worked in in. 340 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: Slop down, up and down. 341 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 4: Of course, the seawater is just getting in there and 342 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 4: the so the tide comes in, goes into the anus, 343 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 4: collects some of that blood, washes back out. A shark 344 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 4: can smell that from over a mile away. 345 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of like a cavernous cave and that 346 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 3: you know, you you like hear the sound of the 347 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,239 Speaker 3: ocean go in and then go out. Yah, and the 348 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 3: sharks love that. 349 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, well they'll take anything. They don't want to eat people. 350 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 4: But a gay asshole like that that's so worn out 351 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 4: it's kind of prolapsing into the water probably looks to 352 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 4: them like some legal se ccumber. 353 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 3: Well, that's the best part of the animal. Yeah. It's like, 354 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 3: if you know, even if I've been vegetarian for five years, 355 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 3: I see a delicious steak, you know, medium rare, in 356 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 3: a in a stunning French beastro We're talking a puav sauce. Yeah, 357 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 3: I'm gonna crave it, even if I'm trying not to 358 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 3: eat meat. 359 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 4: I've been vegetarian for a real long time and I've 360 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 4: never craved meat. 361 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 3: Oh okay, I'm trying to agree with you, Patty, I'm 362 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 3: trying to I'm trying to further your further your argument 363 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 3: by adding a metaphor. And suddenly you are icing me out. 364 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 4: What is a puav sauce? 365 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, I wasn't gonna say it. 366 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 3: What is a pap sauce? 367 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: George? You bring me to. 368 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 3: Move out of Los Angeles and come back to New 369 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 3: York because you are losing cultural references left and right? 370 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 1: Sauce? 371 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 3: Have you never heard of steak au puav? 372 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: No? 373 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 4: That is George. This is not normal. 374 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but I'm already hearing I'm hearing people clack 375 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 3: clack clacking on the comments, being like team. 376 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 5: George, team go to lavad'or in New York. I love steak. 377 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 5: Steak up sauce is like a peppery sauce. It's one 378 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 5: of the French sauces that you can get with steak. 379 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 4: Are you saying it's like gravy, it's like ketchup. 380 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 3: It's not like ketchup. 381 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 4: It call me when Ketchup joins the chat. 382 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: No, that's true. 383 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 3: I am calling a emergency helicopter to get both of 384 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 3: you from the streets of Los Angeles and to airlift 385 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 3: you into a gorgeous West Village French bistro. 386 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: I'm watching in the city. I have not heard a 387 00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: mentioned once. 388 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 4: I don't like helicopters. These are really unsafe. But if 389 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 4: you've got like a plane, you are they really unsafeer? 390 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 3: Are they like the shark situation? 391 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 4: Helicopters are very are like a very unsafe way to travel. 392 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 4: I would implore anybody I know never to fly wait 393 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 4: really yeah, genuinely, the statistics for helicopter crashes are crazy. 394 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 4: Helicopter pilots will tell you this like it's it's a 395 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 4: really dangerous Uh. It's the way like flying in an 396 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 4: airplane is like a million times safer, safer I just 397 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 4: think there's more factors involved in like the leveling out 398 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 4: of the helicopter. 399 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: Why do all famous people do it? 400 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 4: Because they I think helicopters are an easy quick way 401 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 4: for them to shoot like over like whoa look at 402 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 4: look at Like Leah Remini, she's she's a doing a 403 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 4: travel show and she wants to look at the New 404 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 4: York skyline. Let's get her up there. But I think 405 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,479 Speaker 4: that you can't really do that an airplane in like 406 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 4: a quick way. I think I think the Eric Traffick. 407 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 3: I also think rich and famous people think they're invincible. 408 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 3: I think that's why they do it. And I actually 409 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 3: think that's why rates of death are higher in terms 410 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 3: of like freak accidents among wealthier people, is because they 411 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: really think that danger can't get to them. The submarine, 412 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 3: I have a well the submar it's like it's a 413 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 3: submarine all over again. 414 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: Well, I have another theory on this. I think, like 415 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: I like, growing up, I heard so many stories of 416 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: like famous people dying in weird ways, and I was like, 417 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: why does this always happen? And then I moved to 418 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: LA and I was like, it's the hills. 419 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, people are bored and rich like. 420 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: What, like, literally, it's cars on hills and it's so scary. 421 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 4: Oh, you mean literally the hills. I'm not literally the 422 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 4: hills not. 423 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: I mean like, there's just a lot of hills and 424 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: a lot of cars. 425 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. 426 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 3: Wait, so when you're saying freak accidents, you're talking cars only. 427 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 1: No, I'm I'm talking there's just stuff that happens. 428 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,479 Speaker 3: It leads to that, but it's all, but it all 429 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 3: leads to the hills. 430 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: There's a danger in those hills. In all hills, people 431 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: are falling off hills left and right. There's like weird stairs. 432 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: Everyone's driving weird weird stairs. 433 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 4: There's there's grass everywhere. 434 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: This makes sense. 435 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there's something that you could write like 436 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 4: an academic journal about. But I think you need to 437 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 4: like research. 438 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there ain't a couple more steps. 439 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm being told to research on this podcast. 440 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 4: Wait, can I can I tell you something about helicopters? 441 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 4: A story that is not long and it's not I 442 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 4: don't really have much to say about it, but it 443 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 4: does relate to sharks and helicopters. Oh, my mom is 444 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 4: from Vietnam, and she said, so she left Vietnam like 445 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 4: at the pretty much the end of the war. Nearest 446 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 4: to the end of the war. I think it was 447 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 4: like the false Igon. She once saw an American military 448 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 4: helicopter shoes a shark to the beach. She said that 449 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 4: they were calling in that there were sharks in the water. 450 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 4: She was at the beach and that they call like 451 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,479 Speaker 4: American helicopter came and shot at the shark with a 452 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 4: machine gun. 453 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 3: Well, there you go, folks, if you're wondering what's more dangerous. 454 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 3: Helicopters are sharks. 455 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: That's proof. 456 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 3: Helicopters can kill sharks. But sharks cannot eat helicopters. 457 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, unless unless the helicopter crashed. 458 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, but do you think shark could a shark eat it? No, 459 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 3: you're right, a shark could maybe eat the humans in it. 460 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, But you teach a manda fish, But 461 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 4: could you teach a shark shark pilot? 462 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 3: Pilot pilot a helicopter? 463 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 4: What if the what if you saw a helicopter in 464 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 4: the distance crash, so there's sharks in the water, and 465 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 4: then and then you just saw the helicopter lifting back 466 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 4: out of the water. You saw bull of blood, and 467 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 4: then you saw the helicopter lifting back out of the water, 468 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 4: and it's the shark has like the the headset on. 469 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: That would be awesome, but it's like not doing a 470 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: good job. 471 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 4: But it's doing a great job considering it's a shark, 472 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 4: and it's like no, and you. 473 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 3: Know why, because that shark actually, after all these years, 474 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 3: grew limbs. He was like, I'm sick of not assimilating. 475 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 3: I'm going to grow limbs in twenty twenty five and 476 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 3: pilot this fucking helicopter. 477 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 4: And it probably faced a lot of friction from his family. 478 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: Of course. 479 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 3: And it's now gone back to being punk rock to 480 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 3: grow legs, because you know it used to be so 481 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 3: first it was uncool to grow legs, then it was cool. 482 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 3: Then it sort of didn't happen for many years. But 483 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 3: now to grow legs as a shark in twenty twenty 484 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 3: five is like really really a punk rock. 485 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 4: But I do worry about the shark though, because once 486 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,239 Speaker 4: it grows arms and legs, we're assuming in this like 487 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 4: scenario that it has also like lungs and like the 488 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 4: ability to breathe. Right, sure, sure, yeah, it goes into society, 489 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,399 Speaker 4: it's still going to be othered. There's nothing there's no 490 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 4: other I mean, there's no other walking talking shark like it. 491 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,239 Speaker 4: So if we're having a conversation about inclusion, I just 492 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 4: feel like, which we are, Where does the where does 493 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 4: the shark fall? 494 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: Well? And it just it just shows the failings of 495 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 1: our government. You know, it's it's a shark with limbs 496 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 1: should be able to live a life. 497 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, though, I sort of think that 498 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 3: shark can do the work of like bridging the gap 499 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 3: between sharks and people like I think that shark is 500 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,719 Speaker 3: going to be like a Jesus like Gandhi like figure, 501 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 3: Oh wow, can you imagine the only shark with arms 502 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 3: and legs, Like he's gonna have a ted X talk, 503 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 3: He's gonna go. 504 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: That's not where I thought you were going with it. 505 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 1: I think I see the shark going moving to New 506 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: York City and sort of expressing itself, being a downtown creative. 507 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 4: I just don't feel I one, I feel like if 508 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 4: Jesus came back, he would immediately be killed or he'd 509 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 4: be he probably is back. He's just a homeless person 510 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 4: on the street. And we're all when we're all leaving, 511 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 4: walking passing by because we're on our inner air pods 512 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 4: in our slack chats. 513 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 6: Yeah. 514 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're listening to the typing our emails. 515 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 4: Saying do I really have the Caroline Polochick haircut? And 516 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 4: meanwhile Jesus is dead on the streets covered in Joe's 517 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 4: pizza paper plates people have thrown. I'm pandering. 518 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,640 Speaker 3: People are getting Caroline Polocheck haircuts. Meanwhile Jesus is dead 519 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 3: on the streets. 520 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:31,719 Speaker 4: Damn in A shark can't even get a college degree. 521 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 3: But I'm saying, okay, so Sam, you're saying the shark 522 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 3: with the arms and legs would become a downtown creative. 523 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: I do think that you think that. 524 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 3: I think he would be like a unifying, you know, 525 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 3: social justice figure. 526 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: See. I think so it would start with downtown creative, 527 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: and then the next shark to move here would be like, 528 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: we're not all freaks. 529 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 4: Okay, wait, I think we're jumping so far. 530 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 6: Yeah wow, oh my god, that's actually that's the that's 531 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 6: the sharks ted x talk. 532 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 4: Well that's what I was going to say, is we've 533 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 4: we've like jumped so far ahead. We haven't. It's like 534 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 4: the shark speaks English. The shark because don't have lips. 535 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 4: They feel like extending jaw. But I don't think it 536 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 4: would be able to talk the way that we could talk. 537 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 3: Okay, So so I agree with you, Patty, but I 538 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 3: think you're missing one key thing, which is there are 539 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 3: already like marine biologists who study sharks and shark language, 540 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 3: so one of them would be called to be an interpreter, 541 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 3: and the shark could in fact communicate with humans in 542 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 3: that sense. 543 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 4: You're right, thanks for checking me on this. They're Armory 544 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 4: biologists who study shark language. 545 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 546 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're also they say, what is she saying? 547 00:27:58,720 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 4: What is she saying? 548 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: And she's saying prolapsed anus, prolaps. 549 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 4: I haven't had that in a while. I'm going to reese, 550 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 4: I'm going to fire eel. Okay. 551 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 3: So maybe that is what the shark with arms and 552 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 3: legs would do, is like maybe try to fit in 553 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 3: at first, be rejected, and then be like you know what, 554 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 3: fuck this Like I'll show them and then go to 555 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 3: Rees's Beach and eat all the gay guys on land. 556 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 4: Well maybe it's like I'm going to eat the gay guys. 557 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 4: But then it goes and the gay people are like, 558 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 4: oh my god, come to hang with us. 559 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, They're like, hey, diva and this is where it 560 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: gets to the downtown part. I see, so the oh, yes, 561 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: you're right. 562 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 3: The only people that accept the shark you're getting are 563 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 3: like Keith Herring, you know, like. 564 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 4: Bosquiot, well, people who probably were facing the direct repercussions 565 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 4: of the ades crisis. 566 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 3: Of course, Oh my god, connect that's they are saying. 567 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 3: People are saying. There are articles being written that are like, hello, 568 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 3: there are parallels between the shark with hands in with 569 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 3: arms and legs and the age crisis. 570 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: Exactly should we do it for a segment? 571 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 3: Yes? 572 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: Have we started recording, Yes, but just barely no, the 573 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: last five minutes. I think. 574 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 3: Let's start now. 575 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 1: Okay, podcast starts now. 576 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Patty. Our first segment is called straight Shooters, and 577 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 3: in the segment, we test your familiarity with in complicity 578 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 3: and straight culture and gay culture because it's gatio lab 579 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 3: by asking you a series of rapid fire questions where 580 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 3: you have to choose this one thing or this other thing. 581 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 3: And the one rule is you can't ask any follow 582 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 3: up questions about how the game works. 583 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 4: Okay, that's great. I was just worried for a segment 584 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 4: it was called straight Shooters. I was gonna have to 585 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,239 Speaker 4: be like Kyle Rittenhouse or something. But yeah, this is 586 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 4: I can do this. 587 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: Okay, Patty, Yeah, pick your brain or Dick on Maine. 588 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 3: Wait, what are the rules? Well, pick your brain, Patty, 589 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 3: Mary fuck kill or Hillary and Bill oh Hilary and Bill. 590 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: Patty saying yes to the High Priestess or saying no 591 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: to your five. 592 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 4: Nieces, saying no to your five niece. 593 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 3: Coca Cola or Cola Scola. 594 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: Whoa, don't make me think Cola scola, a routine oil change, 595 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: or a poutine tasting strange. 596 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 4: Poutine tasting strange. 597 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 3: I love poutine, streaming, buzz cut season, or being uncut 598 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 3: for a reason. 599 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 4: Being uncut for a reason. 600 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: Okay. Banjo Kazooi or that man Shaboozy. 601 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 4: No, wait, no Shaboozy, no Banjo Kazooi. 602 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 3: One kiss is all it takes? Or one piss inside 603 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 3: the lake. 604 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 4: Ah, this one's hard to I'm going I love one 605 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 4: kisses all it takes me to one inside the lake. 606 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: Oh, I love both, to be honest. Yeah, one one one, okay, Patty. 607 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: We rank our guests on a scale of one to 608 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: one thousand blades of grass. 609 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 3: Can I say something? I'm ready to go back to doves. 610 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 4: Really yeah, doves tho, okay, yeah, great, thousand look a 611 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 4: thousand doors. 612 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: And I think you did an amazing job. I love 613 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: that you had wonder I loved that you were wanting 614 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: to ask questions. It's so rare that we get to 615 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: scold our guests even lightly. I'm going to go eight 616 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety two doves. 617 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 3: I agree, And that's a really good score. 618 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 4: Patty, who has gotten the lowest Chris Murphy, Ah, why 619 00:31:59,120 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 4: we just felt like it. 620 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: We just felt like it. We were in a bad mood. Dang. 621 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 4: So your mood it creates a bias. 622 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: Well, at least we acknowledge our bias. Yeah, many many 623 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 1: in this world don't even acknowledge that their mood affects 624 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: their bias. 625 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 2: You're right. 626 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 3: Do you think that the shark with arms and legs 627 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 3: would come on the podcast and follow up question do 628 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 3: well at straight shooters? 629 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 4: I don't. I think if it depends on how old 630 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 4: the shark is too, when it's coming out of the water, 631 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 4: because we're. 632 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: Weird, it's five hundred years old, that's going to be tough. 633 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, just if it's five hundred years old, then it 634 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 4: would have to be a greenland shark, because that's the 635 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 4: only shark that can grow that old. 636 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 3: Yeah you did. 637 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 4: Have you seen these? 638 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 6: Well? 639 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: I see the viral one because one time I went 640 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: to the dentist. You're dentist, the one you recommended. 641 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, actually it's look amazing, thank you. 642 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: I just got them cleaned. 643 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 4: It checks out. 644 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: But I had a like old felling that looked like 645 00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: a greenland shark. 646 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 3: Oh, it's like the its skin. 647 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: Like it was like black gray, but then had like 648 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: a weird blue. 649 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 4: A little eye that has like parasites on it. 650 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: Literally, oh whoa. But he fixed it. Unfortunately I did 651 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: kind of miss it. It was a monstrosity. 652 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 4: I think that's in that if we're going to say 653 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 4: one thing is like undeniably like empirically gay, it's having 654 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 4: rotten teeth, you think so, yeah, because I think it's 655 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 4: about it's like shining away. Well yeah, for sure. I 656 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 4: think also the the like uh shut and the government system. 657 00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 4: The man, the dentist is the man. 658 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: The dentist is the man, and the. 659 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 4: Teeth is where it is like where you bite from. 660 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 4: It's an animalistic thing. So it's like I have I'm 661 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 4: not going to let the man take away my thing 662 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 4: is the one thing I have. If like I'm ever 663 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 4: like attacked by somebody at my at my lowest point, 664 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 4: I can bite and then to have them, you know, 665 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 4: possibly take those away from munal. So it's like when 666 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:10,240 Speaker 4: you're you're like, it's going giving a blowjob. The teeth 667 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 4: are are there, So that's gay. 668 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 3: Do you think all blow jobs are gay, even if 669 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 3: it's like a straight woman giving a straight man a blowjob. 670 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 4: I think if if she is wearing anything but like, 671 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 4: she can be naked and it's straight. She can be 672 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 4: in brown panty, it can be straight. She can be 673 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 4: in a tank to tank top no bottoms, it can 674 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 4: be straight. But if it's tank top and like basketball shorts. 675 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 3: It's gay. 676 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 4: She's wearing basketball. If she's wearing if she's wearing like 677 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 4: a jersey, it's gay. 678 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 3: She's wearing a flatbeil cap. The more the more masculine 679 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 3: she looks, the gay it is, is what you're saying. 680 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,959 Speaker 4: And yeah, she's wearing an off till flat bill cap, 681 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 4: like it's like kind of diagonal to the side, and 682 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 4: she's like sucking, it's it's gay. 683 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: Can he change his outfit to make it gay? 684 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like if he's wearing like a little baby doll dress. 685 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like a Pride flag T shirt. 686 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. I wonder how she would feel if she's like 687 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 4: she's sucking and she's you. 688 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,359 Speaker 1: Know how there's the thing where people are like there's 689 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: like infinite planets and infinite whatever, so like whatever you 690 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: can imagine, it does exist somewhere. 691 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 692 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: I think about that with people's sexuality, where I'm like 693 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: there's so many different little types and weird things that 694 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 1: like there's somewhere out there there's like a straight couple 695 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 1: and the but the girl's fetish is like sucking off 696 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: a gay guy and makes her boyfriend dress up like 697 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 1: Frank Target Pride merch and then like sucks him off 698 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: and it's like so hot for her. 699 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's got to be like girl, he's. 700 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: Like work diva. 701 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 3: And the guy. But the guy himself is actually just 702 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 3: like super straight frat guy and he's just like he 703 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 3: wants to please his wife. He's like I love you, 704 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 3: like I will do it whatever you want. And so 705 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 3: he's had to like train himself. He's had to watch 706 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 3: seasons of RuPaul's Drag Race. He listens to, uh, what's 707 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 3: the tea with RuPaul and Michelle Vissage. He is, you know, 708 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 3: is on Reddit. He's like learning things, he's going. 709 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: To he watches all the Housewives. 710 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 3: He watches all the Housewives. He like texts the wife's 711 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 3: gay guy friends and he's like, hey, dude, like, I 712 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,799 Speaker 3: would love to pick your brain about this, Like if 713 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 3: you ever want to get a beer. 714 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 4: That's awesome and go pit and put no piss in 715 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 4: the lake. 716 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: That's straight, go piss in the lake. 717 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 4: Well, I do think like the that exists, and I think, yeah, 718 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 4: I know women who are attracted straight women who are 719 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 4: attracted to gay men, who like are attracted to the 720 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 4: femininity of gaymen and constantly like have crushes on gaymen. 721 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 4: And I think that's beautiful. And if that straight like 722 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 4: Wall Street bro actually can dip into that space, that's 723 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 4: really evolved for him. 724 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:58,360 Speaker 1: That's really evolved, you know. 725 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 4: And I would say if maybe there's probably a woman 726 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 4: out there who like wants to force her Streetmall partner 727 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 4: to transition as a sexual kink and he probably is 728 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 4: like I might do that. 729 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 3: Do you think he would do that? 730 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: He's like, fuck, babe, sure whatever. 731 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 4: Man, He's like, babe, He's like She's like like in 732 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 4: saying what do what do women say to each other? No, Gurley, I. 733 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: Think is over now. 734 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 3: I think Gurly is over. You know what, I recently learned. 735 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: To get your ass. 736 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 4: I just like came outside. 737 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: You know. 738 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 3: I recently learned as like a real no no. 739 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,439 Speaker 4: Bestie, Bestie, It's a no no in what way? 740 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 3: Like you're you seem old if you say it? 741 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 4: Oh, like saying install versus I G. Yeah, what happens 742 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 4: if you say bestie to your like brain matter? Do 743 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 4: you feel like a shock of pain and you feel. 744 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,879 Speaker 1: Like I feel a shock of pain? Yeah, like Bestie doesn't? 745 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 3: It never sounded good to me. To me, it never 746 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 3: sounded good to me either. I also Gurly kind of 747 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 3: also never sounded good to me. 748 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: Gurley was fun for a sec I preferred Girlina, but Gurley. 749 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 4: Was fun, Like like is it Michaelina's? Is that the 750 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 4: microwavable Niolina like mic Macaroni Nikolas. 751 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 3: Michaelis? 752 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 4: Maybe I'm misremembering. I thought there was like a like 753 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 4: ready to not ready to eat, but like a quick 754 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,919 Speaker 4: baked macaroni and cheese that had like a theme song. 755 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 3: Wow that sort of Michelinas is like the name the 756 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 3: Shark with Arms and legs would have Michelas. 757 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's beautiful combination of old and new because 758 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 4: it kind of sounds like it could be like like 759 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,240 Speaker 4: like an ancient God. Yeah, totally freak a Roman. 760 00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, totally. It's you know, I'm having a real 761 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,719 Speaker 3: sort of bummer moment right now because I'm realizing mckaalenas 762 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,959 Speaker 3: would never do Stradio Lab. You know what mcleenas would 763 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 3: do is all of the various like shock Jog podcasts 764 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 3: that like Pete Buddha Judge has to go on. Really yeah, 765 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 3: like I think like Michaelis would have to do the 766 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,240 Speaker 3: like kind of like dirt bag bro podcasts to appeal 767 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 3: to Middle America to. 768 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: Try to change minds and hearts. 769 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, because the the people that listen to this podcast 770 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:29,320 Speaker 3: are already, you know, prone to like a downtown art figure. 771 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're they're prone, and they're prone in their position too. 772 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 4: They're laying stomach down on a bed. 773 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, out perked up. 774 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. 775 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 3: Mcalenus be damned well. 776 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 4: And I think mcalenas is kind of brave for for 777 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 4: going into those spaces. How much English does mcalinas know. 778 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: All of it. 779 00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 4: Okay, so like really really smart, smart enough to start 780 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,360 Speaker 4: to fly a helicopter as soon as I mean. 781 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 3: Mcleanus's origin stories literally that he on the spot learned 782 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 3: to fly a helicopter, right, So yeah, he's gonna go 783 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 3: ahead and be pretty smart. 784 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: He also like is four hundred like he knows the words. 785 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 1: It's like he heard sailors. 786 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's heard all So is it like one of 787 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 4: those things where like Twilight where maybe he has some 788 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 4: like old English and him Yeah, he can speak every language. 789 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: Like he's saying, like where art thou and and bestie 790 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 1: where for? Yeah, Patty, I have a question. Okay, you 791 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: know the moment I watched in the door, you said 792 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: that our friendship is at a low point right now, and. 793 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 4: I just didn't think it would make it on them. 794 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, everything makes it on. 795 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 4: So please that I just mean that, like when our 796 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 4: friendship was good, it felt better, and now it feels 797 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 4: in a bad place because I don't like being around. 798 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: You, oh oh oh oh. 799 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 4: And I get the sense that when you're around me 800 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 4: you wail off and become really cold. Yeah, and you 801 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 4: clutch your stuff like I'm going to take it, and 802 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 4: I don't understand it. It makes me feel on edge. 803 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 1: It's like this weird thing that happens when you're around 804 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 1: where I like feel like the value of my things 805 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,440 Speaker 1: more like I'm like, oh, these are actually worth a 806 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,919 Speaker 1: lot of money, and I don't like how that makes 807 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 1: me feel. 808 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 4: I completely understand, and I wish we would have had 809 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 4: this conversation like four months ago, because I have been 810 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 4: I'm sure maybe you've gotten them, but I've been like 811 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 4: emailing you from like a lot of like hundreds of 812 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,280 Speaker 4: burner emails, yeah. 813 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 3: Threats, and I like, could I just say something. I'm sorry, 814 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 3: But it's like the elephant in the room that we're 815 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 3: not addressing. Is the reason Sam is afraid that you're 816 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 3: going to steal his stuff is because you have been 817 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 3: known to steal his stuff, Like you just feel you 818 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 3: have robbed his house multiple times, both the New York 819 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 3: City and LA Why are you rehashing that. I know 820 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 3: that you say you've changed, but like you have to 821 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 3: have some empathy that Sam like has this trauma of 822 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 3: every single time you would hang out together, you would 823 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:31,879 Speaker 3: plan to hang out together, he would go, you would 824 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 3: not have shown up because you specifically planned the hangout 825 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:35,960 Speaker 3: so that you could rob his house. 826 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:41,280 Speaker 4: I think we're rehashing stuff that doesn't it just feels 827 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,399 Speaker 4: I don't I didn't know we were going to talk 828 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:47,879 Speaker 4: about this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I feel a bit 829 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 4: uncomfortable to go into it, but I just want to 830 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 4: say it does bother me a little bit that you 831 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,439 Speaker 4: are are going at it so hard, George. It makes 832 00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 4: me feel like you guys talked about it before because 833 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 4: I personally don't remember doing any of that, not that 834 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 4: it didn't happen. And I saw, like I saw the 835 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 4: videos I love me, and I was like, yeah, that's me. 836 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna I'm not like some gas lighter dumb ass, 837 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 4: Like I'm not trying to be abuse. I'm not trying 838 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,359 Speaker 4: to be like a fucking toxic like abuser gas lighter. 839 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 3: Yeah that is me. 840 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 4: And the video is stealing, you're stealing the stuff. But 841 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 4: I just why are we rehashing it? I don't know 842 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 4: if because I can't remember, I don't feel like I 843 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 4: can really apologize, and I feel like that's what you 844 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,880 Speaker 4: want from me, But I told you I don't remember 845 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 4: doing it. Yeah yeah, yes, So I just like I 846 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,879 Speaker 4: still get what we're what we're talking about. 847 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 3: So I sort of think the issue, Patty, is that 848 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,359 Speaker 3: I completely believe that you don't remember doing it, and 849 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 3: I don't necessarily think you owe anyone an apology. The 850 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 3: fact of the matter is all that stuff is still 851 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 3: in your possession and you have not returned it now 852 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,839 Speaker 3: that you're in a better mindset and you know say 853 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:01,680 Speaker 3: that you would never do it again. 854 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: And there's this thing that keeps happening where like so 855 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: you'll steal like say, like my Prada, like my Prada shoes, 856 00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: Like you'll steal those, and then and then I'll be like, Okay, 857 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 1: that's okay, I'll replace them with like Gucci, Like I 858 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 1: have these Gucci shoes, and then and then those go 859 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:15,839 Speaker 1: missing as well. 860 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,279 Speaker 4: I said I'd replace them. I didn't say. I didn't 861 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 4: say I would replace them with Gucci. 862 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,760 Speaker 1: I'm replacing them when. 863 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 3: You wouldn't even need to replace them. You have the 864 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 3: Prada shoes and you're in fact like wearing them and 865 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,439 Speaker 3: doing Outfit of the Day videos and doing get Ready 866 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 3: with me, and you're like. 867 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: These are vintage, these are used, and by the way. 868 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 3: They don't even like no offense, they don't even fit you, 869 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 3: like you're doing it just to mess with Sam, like 870 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 3: they're too big on you and they don't and their 871 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 3: men's shoes like there's no reason for you to be 872 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:46,399 Speaker 3: wearing them. 873 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 4: George, Can I can I get like a teammate because 874 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 4: I'm being I'm being dog piled right. This is a 875 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 4: witch hunt, This is weird. 876 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 3: I just I don't know. Because Sam Sam, I feel 877 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,879 Speaker 3: a sense of I want to defend Sam because I 878 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 3: know that he has done everything in his power to 879 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 3: mend this friendship. And for you to first come in 880 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 3: and the first thing you say is I feel like 881 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 3: our friendship is not in a good place, and then 882 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 3: it's not. 883 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 4: It's not in a good place. I'm not going to 884 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 4: be fait. 885 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 3: Skirt accountability when we try to, like talk to you 886 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 3: about the things you've done. 887 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 4: I'm not skirting anything. I'm not skirting anything. I feel 888 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 4: like I'm sorry, I'm raising my voice. I feel really 889 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 4: like defensive right now, because I definitely feel like I 890 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 4: wasn't expecting to talk about this today. Yeah, I feel 891 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 4: like I can understand why you feel afraid to have 892 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 4: your stuff near me because I have taken things from 893 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:51,560 Speaker 4: you in the past. I am telling you, I wish 894 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 4: I could be sorry, but I don't remember, and so 895 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,080 Speaker 4: I can't like you if I say sorry, it's not 896 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 4: going to be And I do have this stuff that 897 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 4: you're talking about, yeah, that I have taken, but it 898 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:18,280 Speaker 4: is in my possession now and and I feel like, 899 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 4: like all of a sudden, like even though I didn't 900 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 4: ask for this, like it's I don't I think I 901 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,959 Speaker 4: just was like like had a lot on my mind 902 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 4: that day because I was I had to go grocery 903 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 4: shopping and my my grocery was huge, and so I 904 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,359 Speaker 4: had a lot on my mind. I wasn't even paying 905 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 4: attention in the fact that like I was like stealing 906 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 4: from you. And so now it's like I'm this bad 907 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:48,280 Speaker 4: guy who has to has to like return this this stuff. 908 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 4: Does that make sense? Like can you like just you're 909 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,359 Speaker 4: you're yelling literally yelling at me to be empathetic. Can 910 00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 4: you extend that to me just to say, like, I'm 911 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 4: I'm in pain all the time? Of course, you know, 912 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 4: have you watched the news? 913 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 3: No, no, what's going And something happened. 914 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 4: So I can't really remember, but there was something that 915 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:22,360 Speaker 4: made me really sad, and and so it's just been like, really, 916 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,799 Speaker 4: you're gonna you're gonna like fight. This is the hill 917 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 4: you die on, is like, I have your stuff. I 918 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 4: stole a bunch of your designer stuff. I stole like 919 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 4: multiple times over the years and keep stealing it. And 920 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:35,880 Speaker 4: that's the hill you're gonna die on. And then you 921 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 4: bring me and the but I'm I'm not allowed to 922 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,719 Speaker 4: I'm not allowed to address if I have, like if 923 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 4: there's like a strange tension between us, it just feels 924 00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 4: people please or codependent or something. I'm getting that out, 925 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:56,040 Speaker 4: Like I'm not that way anymore, okay, And I'm George. 926 00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,919 Speaker 4: I just want to say we you're you're really, you're 927 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 4: really going in. But you don't want to talk about 928 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,839 Speaker 4: the fact that you want up the statue of Liberty's dress. 929 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:05,560 Speaker 1: Okay. 930 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 3: I just don't really think that's the same, because the 931 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,280 Speaker 3: power dynamics are completely different. 932 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 1: You know. 933 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 3: The statue of Liberty is actually like one of the 934 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 3: most giant women globally, and so for me to go 935 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 3: out of stone, she's made of stone, she's like from France. Like, 936 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 3: for me to go up her dress is actually someone 937 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 3: in a lower level of power reclaiming their power as 938 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 3: a queer individual by going up the statue of Liberty's dress. 939 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,760 Speaker 3: You know, it's the equivalent of someone taking down an abuser, 940 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,359 Speaker 3: Whereas I think, I just don't you know, I think 941 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,960 Speaker 3: what you to steal Sam's designer clothes seems different. You know, 942 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 3: Sam is an independent LGBTQ plus creator. He's not the 943 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 3: statue of Liberty. 944 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 4: Sam's not independent, He's incorporated. 945 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 3: That's true, you can be independently incorporated. He's the soul. 946 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,000 Speaker 3: He's the sole shareholder. 947 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm the only employees. 948 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 4: Well, I what I'm hearing is that you think that 949 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 4: a woman of any size it doesn't matter like that, 950 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 4: like her size. A woman's size determines if she has 951 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 4: agency or not, if like a man should get to 952 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 4: go up her dress, if she if she's a bigger, 953 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 4: if she's literally a bigger woman. You're like, that's just 954 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 4: that's crazy, George. I mean, and the fact that she's 955 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 4: from like why are you trying? It's like, okay, she's 956 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,759 Speaker 4: like a foreigner, like okay, and I'm I'm allowed, Like 957 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:36,040 Speaker 4: you've flipped it on her that maybe because she's like 958 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 4: it just said, it just reeks, It just reeks of 959 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:48,240 Speaker 4: like this disgusting sexual dominance. Gay men assert over straight 960 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,720 Speaker 4: women that we see at the bars and in the clubs. 961 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,239 Speaker 3: Patty, I just have one follow up question for you. 962 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 3: I love those boots. Where'd you get them? 963 00:49:55,360 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? I happen to remember buying those from my wrestling practice. 964 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,800 Speaker 4: I cut them at the fucking store. 965 00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 1: Which store, Patty? Which store. 966 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 4: You're wrestling practice? 967 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 1: You know, Patty? 968 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,719 Speaker 3: I just I have to say, like, we have to 969 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 3: move on, because you know, this is gaeteo web and 970 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 3: we have to introduce a gay topic. But Sam, I 971 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 3: do want to give you some space. I realize I'm 972 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 3: speaking for you. You know, I feel very defensive as 973 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 3: a friend. We talked about this and we said, you know, 974 00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 3: we're having Patty on and we want to like do 975 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 3: it right. I want to give you a chance to 976 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 3: finally just say your last word on. 977 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:53,359 Speaker 1: This, Patty. I want to forgive you, and I will 978 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:58,040 Speaker 1: work on it. And I still may clutch my things 979 00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,120 Speaker 1: closer to you know, Louis bag that I brought to 980 00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: the recording, of course, will be held close to me. 981 00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 1: Don't put your eyes on it, and I when you remember, 982 00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:12,480 Speaker 1: I'll forgive you. 983 00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:18,319 Speaker 4: I think that is that's fair. I hear that you're 984 00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 4: saying that when the time comes should I remember doing 985 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,680 Speaker 4: something that I can't remember doing. I don't know when 986 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,840 Speaker 4: i'll remember that, but that you are can offer forgiveness 987 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,839 Speaker 4: for me. I think it's a really I think it's 988 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 4: a really kind thing. And I just would like to 989 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 4: say that. I know, George, you said we have to 990 00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,799 Speaker 4: move on to go on to our gay topic. But 991 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,880 Speaker 4: what is more universally gay than friends fighting? 992 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:51,280 Speaker 1: Wow? 993 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:53,360 Speaker 4: Having rotten teeth? 994 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,879 Speaker 1: Okay, well, what's the third we have? Fighting with our friends? 995 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,720 Speaker 1: Rotten teeth? And give us a the gay topic? 996 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:03,200 Speaker 4: Online? 997 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 1: Online? Now? What about online feels a gay to you? 998 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 4: Community? Outside of your house? 999 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 1: Oh? No, my branded thing fell? 1000 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 3: What fell? Oh? 1001 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,000 Speaker 4: I heart podcasts? 1002 00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:21,959 Speaker 1: It's back. 1003 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 3: Are those listening? The piece of Sam's mic that says 1004 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,320 Speaker 3: I heart on it fell? 1005 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 1: So anti capitalist of me, this. 1006 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,359 Speaker 4: Er I was about to see watching all Sam's rotten 1007 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 4: toeth fell out. Sam's one big rotten tooth fell onto 1008 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 4: the ground. 1009 00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,759 Speaker 3: Oh and it says iHeart on it? 1010 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,279 Speaker 4: I okay, you got it to cosmetic. 1011 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,799 Speaker 1: My big rotten tooth would actually be a I think 1012 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 1: Lord would use it for an album cover for this 1013 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 1: current cycle my rot two. Yeah, it looks like a shock. 1014 00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 1: That's four hundred years old. 1015 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,840 Speaker 4: I I do want to not make you sit in 1016 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:06,800 Speaker 4: the rotten toothness. I recommended my dentist because I had 1017 00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,400 Speaker 4: not gone to the dentist in like sixteen or seventeen years. 1018 00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:11,800 Speaker 1: I was similar. 1019 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,799 Speaker 4: I went and I had like four or five like 1020 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:20,279 Speaker 4: bored out, rotten cavities, and they like replaced two of 1021 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 4: my molars and gave me a million fillings. And so 1022 00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:28,360 Speaker 4: that's that feels that's why I'm LGBTQ, even though I'm SIS. 1023 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,240 Speaker 4: I have vagina womb eggs born that way. 1024 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 1: Way. 1025 00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, straight, you. 1026 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,440 Speaker 3: No longer have rotten teeth, so you sort of transitioned. 1027 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 4: Into lgbt but I did. 1028 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:43,720 Speaker 3: Well, this is interesting. 1029 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 4: I have the experience, like I have the memories. I 1030 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:48,040 Speaker 4: remember that. 1031 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,279 Speaker 3: Is it enough to have memories? 1032 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 1: So you remember your teeth enough? Feeling all my things? 1033 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:57,799 Speaker 4: Is it enough to have memories? I just I just 1034 00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 4: think we have to not rehash. 1035 00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:01,000 Speaker 1: Sorry, we're not rehashing that. 1036 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,399 Speaker 4: I think you're not able to move past the pain 1037 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 4: of it. 1038 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,880 Speaker 1: And yeah, I have. You know, whenever I go to 1039 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:12,280 Speaker 1: the dentist, your name shows up on the screen because 1040 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 1: you referred me. 1041 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,879 Speaker 4: Really, yeah, does it say my dead name? 1042 00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 1: No, Patrick says Patty Okay does say white. 1043 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, huh, that's yeah, that's my that's I really wish 1044 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,200 Speaker 4: you didn't say that, Sam, because that is personal information 1045 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 4: and it is, in fact my race. 1046 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe it's my race, maybe it's mine. Maybe they're 1047 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:39,840 Speaker 1: maybe they frame it weird. 1048 00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're why right? 1049 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:44,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much. 1050 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,800 Speaker 4: You've got some You've got some flavor. 1051 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:50,920 Speaker 1: Folks. 1052 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,320 Speaker 4: Have you ever been with a girl like me before? 1053 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:57,440 Speaker 1: With rotted teeth? 1054 00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,720 Speaker 4: I was gonna say something sexy? 1055 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 1: Oh like what George? Sorry, if you don't mind watching 1056 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:04,879 Speaker 1: just for. 1057 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:11,680 Speaker 7: A minute, hmmm, kind of my Oh he disappeared, did he? 1058 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 4: He didn't? 1059 00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:13,680 Speaker 1: Like he really hated that. 1060 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 4: Is he still here? George? Are you still here? 1061 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,319 Speaker 1: George literally left? That must have made him so uncomfortable. 1062 00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like like when like straight stuff is happening, 1063 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,840 Speaker 1: he like acts really like weird. 1064 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 4: Why he's going to the bathroom to jack his cock off? 1065 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:35,239 Speaker 1: And maybe that's it. Maybe he's like so disgusted, but 1066 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,320 Speaker 1: it's like it turns him on. 1067 00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,839 Speaker 4: He's disgusted in himself that he's so harasked. 1068 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, because he wants to be like this gay guy 1069 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,720 Speaker 1: who like knows what a puav is and like, actually, 1070 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 1: he's just like a fucking stray guy. 1071 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,160 Speaker 4: Do you believe him when he says a puav is pep. 1072 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:55,400 Speaker 1: Personus, I He'll just be spewing bullshit And I just 1073 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,360 Speaker 1: nod and I say sure, sure, whatever. 1074 00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 4: Why do you do this with him? You don't have to, 1075 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:01,880 Speaker 4: like you could do it with me. 1076 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 1: No, the contract is like really strict. Oh god, yeah, 1077 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:08,080 Speaker 1: they've got my balls in a bind. 1078 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,719 Speaker 4: Well I can help with that. 1079 00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 7: My my pussy can help. I can it can untie 1080 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 7: the blinds like prehensiles, like you know how people can 1081 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,680 Speaker 7: tie cherry stems of their tongue. My pussy can help 1082 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,760 Speaker 7: you get out of legal Uh uh? 1083 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:35,120 Speaker 4: What is it? Tribulation? 1084 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,839 Speaker 1: That's cool? So why didn't you want to be a lawyer. 1085 00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,399 Speaker 4: Because I didn't want to follow my dad's footsteps. More like, 1086 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:50,279 Speaker 4: more like, okay, should we stop? 1087 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,760 Speaker 1: Unfortunately we have to keep all of this it pass. 1088 00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,319 Speaker 1: But we can also just wait until George's back now 1089 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:01,960 Speaker 1: and then be like, and now he's back. 1090 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:03,640 Speaker 4: Wait, what were you gonna what joke were you going 1091 00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 4: to make. 1092 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 1: That your dad's bussy was doing all the legal work. 1093 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:11,800 Speaker 4: For That's not okay, my dad's dead. 1094 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,480 Speaker 1: I know, but like you've said, he was a lawyer, 1095 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 1: like and you said that, Like I just am sort 1096 00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 1: of saying, I wonder where you got it. 1097 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 4: My dad's bussy. 1098 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:23,760 Speaker 1: Oh, George's back. 1099 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:24,400 Speaker 2: Are you okay? 1100 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:24,760 Speaker 4: George? 1101 00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,280 Speaker 1: George? Are you okay? You're back? 1102 00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 3: I know, I know, but we're just figuring some other 1103 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,520 Speaker 3: stuff out. But and so I and I can't really 1104 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,200 Speaker 3: see you, but you guys should keep talking. 1105 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,680 Speaker 4: Well, I was just worried that because it just went dark, 1106 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 4: that it was like the scene in the Dark Night 1107 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 4: where Maggie Jillen hall Bo gets blown up. 1108 00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, just to catch you up since you. 1109 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,720 Speaker 3: Were gone, Yeah, what happened while I was gone? And 1110 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 3: can get on? 1111 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, well, yes, we realized something about you. 1112 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 3: Oh my god, what is this? 1113 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, we just realized something about you. 1114 00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,600 Speaker 1: What well, that you're a sick pervert? 1115 00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:58,320 Speaker 3: What the hell? 1116 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:03,640 Speaker 1: And the you know, when Patty and I were having 1117 00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:08,480 Speaker 1: a connection, you had to turn off your camera and 1118 00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:11,160 Speaker 1: mike and leave the room to go. 1119 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, it made you uncomfortable to see that Sam and 1120 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 4: I's connection could go further than yours. 1121 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:22,000 Speaker 3: Sorry, but this is such bullshit, Like I literally came, 1122 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,040 Speaker 3: I came in here, Sam to defend you. I had 1123 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,960 Speaker 3: my talking points for Patty. You said, Patty abuses you 1124 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,680 Speaker 3: all the time and steals from you all the time, 1125 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:31,720 Speaker 3: but you were not brave enough to confront her. So 1126 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 3: can you help? And I said, okay, Like, I've always 1127 00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,360 Speaker 3: had a good relationship with Patty, but I'm like down 1128 00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 3: to ruin my own relationship with Patty for your for 1129 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:43,720 Speaker 3: the sake of your prodes shoes. And now suddenly you're 1130 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,280 Speaker 3: turning against me and allying with your former nemesis. Well, 1131 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 3: I just. 1132 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,600 Speaker 1: Realized, you know, maybe you weren't such a reliable narrator, 1133 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,840 Speaker 1: and potentially you were trying to turn me against Patty 1134 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,000 Speaker 1: because you didn't want us connecting in a romantic way, 1135 00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 1: because you knew it would turn you on too much 1136 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 1: and make you not begin anymore. 1137 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, George, I don't know if you are being serious 1138 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,960 Speaker 4: or not, because I don't know if you can tell. 1139 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,040 Speaker 4: But all of that stuff was a joke and a 1140 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 4: bit that we were doing what I don't steal from him. 1141 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:21,320 Speaker 4: We're a good friends. We're good and what's not a 1142 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,520 Speaker 4: joke is the tension between me and Sam in a 1143 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 4: good way in the sense of the emotional and romantic 1144 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:30,280 Speaker 4: and physical connection that we have. 1145 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 3: So you're telling me you made up this whole bit 1146 00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 3: and brought me into it as a form of psychosexual 1147 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,000 Speaker 3: play between the two of you. 1148 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 1: Your kink is. 1149 00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 3: Literally gaslighting your friend into like a fake narrative so 1150 00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,720 Speaker 3: that you guys can then feel closer to one another. 1151 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 4: Well, let's just say yeah. 1152 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,160 Speaker 1: I think we can start by saying pretty much. 1153 00:59:56,080 --> 01:00:01,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, Sam is straight, always have been. And my pussy 1154 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:05,480 Speaker 4: is in the room and he said he fucks it 1155 01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 4: and suck. 1156 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:08,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I get what. 1157 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 3: I get what straight is, Patty. Thank you. I understand 1158 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:13,640 Speaker 3: how it works. Really, I have a question. 1159 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:14,240 Speaker 1: I bet you do? 1160 01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,560 Speaker 3: You per And so, Patty, you're one of those six 1161 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,080 Speaker 3: straight women that whose gank is that they want their 1162 01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:24,120 Speaker 3: straight husbands to act gay. And this has been a 1163 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:29,439 Speaker 3: long term bit where Sam literally pretended to be gay 1164 01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,080 Speaker 3: his whole life, started a podcast with me, did it 1165 01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,280 Speaker 3: for five years? Also, it could lead to this moment 1166 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:36,400 Speaker 3: of confrontation. 1167 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it's funny that you think there's 1168 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 4: only six of us. There's so many more of us 1169 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 4: out there than you could ever imagine. And you know what, 1170 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:48,040 Speaker 4: and you know what after that five years, every time 1171 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 4: a recording ended with you. He came over and he 1172 01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:51,560 Speaker 4: fuck me. 1173 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:57,520 Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, yeah, it was crazy. 1174 01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 4: I said, what did you say? And he's like, we 1175 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,040 Speaker 4: talked about pop and I was. 1176 01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:09,480 Speaker 8: Like, that is so sick, Patty, Well, it would be 1177 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 8: sick if you didn't get a big kick out of it. 1178 01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:14,760 Speaker 3: Georgina is here's a question, Georgina, you are other? Are 1179 01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:18,160 Speaker 3: our other guests and producers and iHeart and Will Ferrell? 1180 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 3: Are they all in on it? 1181 01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,840 Speaker 1: Oh? This thing goes really deep. I mean, if you 1182 01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,120 Speaker 1: think Bowen and Matt are straight or are gay, you 1183 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 1: aren't paying attention. 1184 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 3: So you're saying Bowen and Matt paving the way by 1185 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,800 Speaker 3: having the by having their podcast, was also part of 1186 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 3: this sick psychosexual game. 1187 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:37,640 Speaker 1: Pretty much. 1188 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:42,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not sick. It's actually a very sustainable way 1189 01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,320 Speaker 4: of life. It's unconventional, sure. 1190 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,280 Speaker 1: But it's Pride month and love is love. 1191 01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:50,040 Speaker 4: And love is love, and that's I think a thing 1192 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:53,560 Speaker 4: that we could talk about is gay hate, So now 1193 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:57,400 Speaker 4: unwelcoming and other kinds of love. 1194 01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 3: Here's my question for the two of you, the happy 1195 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,840 Speaker 3: cup is where do we go from here? You know, 1196 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:07,080 Speaker 3: do I keep acting as though I don't know about 1197 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,480 Speaker 3: this for the sake of our careers, for the sake 1198 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,840 Speaker 3: of our podcast deal, and I guess for the sake 1199 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:17,480 Speaker 3: of your relationship by extension, are you planning on, I 1200 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,240 Speaker 3: don't know, eliminating me now that it's all out in 1201 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:21,439 Speaker 3: the open and this is all over. 1202 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you also missed that part of the conversation, 1203 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:29,560 Speaker 1: which is what well. I told Patty that you know, 1204 01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:33,760 Speaker 1: iHeart has my balls in a bind, and that. 1205 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:36,360 Speaker 3: Is that another one of your kinks. 1206 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:41,400 Speaker 4: Let's just say that I offered to unbind them with 1207 01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:42,080 Speaker 4: my plus. 1208 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:48,040 Speaker 3: So I guess we can just say that, but I would, 1209 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,240 Speaker 3: in fact like a little more context in terms of 1210 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,280 Speaker 3: just materially what that means for me. 1211 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,880 Speaker 4: You know how women can tie a cherry, some with 1212 01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:58,000 Speaker 4: their tongue. 1213 01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,919 Speaker 3: And some with their vaginas well. 1214 01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:05,800 Speaker 1: Some can do legal documents with their vaginas. 1215 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:09,040 Speaker 3: Can do legal documents? Do you mean documents or like 1216 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,760 Speaker 3: them wholesale whole clot from scratch. 1217 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:14,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it's. 1218 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:17,560 Speaker 4: Really interesting you bring up the word scratch because a 1219 01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:21,160 Speaker 4: lot of women, a lot of women call their pussies 1220 01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,760 Speaker 4: their gash. But see, my pussy stayed the same size 1221 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 4: ever since I was born, and it's so small. I 1222 01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,800 Speaker 4: call it my scratch, so okay, when men are fucking me, 1223 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,200 Speaker 4: I say, oh my god, yeah, fuck my scratch. And 1224 01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:34,960 Speaker 4: then when they're like where do you want it, when 1225 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,920 Speaker 4: they're about I'm about to come, I'm like, come on, 1226 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,680 Speaker 4: my scratch. So interesting to use the word scratch. 1227 01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:40,560 Speaker 1: Interesting. 1228 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:42,880 Speaker 3: That is really interesting. 1229 01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:49,160 Speaker 4: Honey, George, I think you need to just drop drop 1230 01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:50,120 Speaker 4: the act yourself. 1231 01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:53,520 Speaker 3: What do you what do you mean? 1232 01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:57,080 Speaker 4: Let's just say going up? 1233 01:03:58,280 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 1: What's that you? 1234 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:03,440 Speaker 4: Liberty's dress isn't the only thing I've seen you do, Patty. 1235 01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,200 Speaker 3: This is I really don't want to talk about that. 1236 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 1: Oh, we've seen you at Union Pool hanging out with 1237 01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,440 Speaker 1: those twenty six year old women. 1238 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:19,520 Speaker 4: That are wearing that are wearing deftones T shirts that 1239 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:23,400 Speaker 4: are cut into little kind of like crop tops. Yeah, 1240 01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,400 Speaker 4: not even just regular straight chicks, kind. 1241 01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,800 Speaker 1: Of alt all all Brooklyn type. 1242 01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:33,280 Speaker 4: Semi semi al. Did you see Brooklyn Dikes types? Yeah, 1243 01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:34,000 Speaker 4: Brooklyn types. 1244 01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:40,520 Speaker 3: Listen. I keep getting older, they stay the same age. 1245 01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,400 Speaker 2: They whoop. 1246 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,320 Speaker 4: There it is, George that we knew it. 1247 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,000 Speaker 1: We knew it? Are you? 1248 01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,880 Speaker 3: I don't think I like to keep those parts of 1249 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,720 Speaker 3: my life separate, and it has never affected my performance 1250 01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:58,400 Speaker 3: on the podcast, nor have I implicated anyone non consensually 1251 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,360 Speaker 3: into my own sexual which is valid, by the way, 1252 01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:03,880 Speaker 3: especially during this month, Pride Month, where I'm one of 1253 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,920 Speaker 3: three LGBTQ plus individuals in the entire world, although we'll 1254 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:08,720 Speaker 3: see how many are left by the end of this episode, 1255 01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,919 Speaker 3: by the way, and so I don't think anyone. I've 1256 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:16,080 Speaker 3: never been dishonest with anyone, whereas you two have literally 1257 01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,800 Speaker 3: strung me along for five years. I'm gonna need years 1258 01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,000 Speaker 3: of psychoanalysis, Freudian psychoanalysis, four times a week in order 1259 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:22,600 Speaker 3: to get over this. 1260 01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:25,680 Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting. 1261 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,720 Speaker 3: All those girls at Union Pool know exactly who I am. 1262 01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:30,440 Speaker 3: They know who I am when I'm with them. They 1263 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:31,800 Speaker 3: know who I am when I'm in the studio and 1264 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:32,720 Speaker 3: they are okay with it. 1265 01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,720 Speaker 4: And they know who you are when you're when you're 1266 01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:37,320 Speaker 4: in their guts. 1267 01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you have a problem with that? 1268 01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:47,840 Speaker 4: I just think it's a bit. I think you should 1269 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:52,040 Speaker 4: win a gold or silver medal for the floor routine 1270 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,680 Speaker 4: you just did in front of us. The amount of 1271 01:05:54,680 --> 01:06:00,000 Speaker 4: gymnastics you had to had to do to convince yourself. 1272 01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,640 Speaker 1: Yes, the amount of gymnastic you're like. 1273 01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 4: Place you're doing gymnastic. 1274 01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:10,360 Speaker 3: Calls because I just stuck the damn landing. 1275 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,600 Speaker 4: No, we're saying, we're saying that the gymnastics you're doing 1276 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,120 Speaker 4: to gas sight yourself into thinking that you're gay when 1277 01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:19,480 Speaker 4: you're actually straight and you're fucking a bunch of semi 1278 01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,880 Speaker 4: old girls. Uh, Union Pool, Not that you stuck the 1279 01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,560 Speaker 4: landing on your own, are you? You are not Simone 1280 01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:27,400 Speaker 4: Biles and sticking your landing on your. 1281 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:31,840 Speaker 1: Own in the Olympics like before before or she didn't 1282 01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:33,919 Speaker 1: do well in that. 1283 01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:36,960 Speaker 4: Regard, But you are Simone Biles in the sense of 1284 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,320 Speaker 4: being an excellent gymnast, in the sense of you gas 1285 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:45,760 Speaker 4: your ability to gasight yourself and doing so. What's your 1286 01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,560 Speaker 4: favorite position with Union Pool girl? 1287 01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,320 Speaker 3: What's my favorite position with Union Pool girl? 1288 01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, with one of the Union Pool what's your favorite 1289 01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,720 Speaker 4: position you like to do when you have sex with 1290 01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:57,520 Speaker 4: the Union Pool girl? 1291 01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:00,400 Speaker 3: What is my favorite position I have to do? How 1292 01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,080 Speaker 3: dare you ask me something like that? 1293 01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:09,560 Speaker 1: To me, that's a valid question where all adults were well, doggie, 1294 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,439 Speaker 1: of course, doggy, of course, of. 1295 01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:16,000 Speaker 4: Course, of course, of course, doggy, doggy. 1296 01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,600 Speaker 3: That's that's what you two do together. When I'm not 1297 01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:23,000 Speaker 3: all the way, Yeah, pretty. And then Patty keeps talking 1298 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:23,920 Speaker 3: about her scratch. 1299 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, she says, scratch that scratch. 1300 01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:30,360 Speaker 3: Scratch that scratch, she says, and then you scratch and scratch. 1301 01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,920 Speaker 4: Well, then I think we're getting a little far away. 1302 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:39,680 Speaker 4: I don't call I don't call my pussiest scratch and 1303 01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:43,520 Speaker 4: then say scratch my scratch, scratch that scratch, because you 1304 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:46,480 Speaker 4: don't scratch a scratchy scratch an itch. And I would 1305 01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:50,280 Speaker 4: not call my pussy and itch that has other weird connotations. 1306 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,640 Speaker 4: I would say, fuck my itch. 1307 01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:56,480 Speaker 3: Right right, this is so gross. 1308 01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:01,320 Speaker 4: Uh, we can we can talk about online, We can 1309 01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:02,440 Speaker 4: talk about the online world. 1310 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,600 Speaker 1: I don't think we can talk about you know, Patty. 1311 01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,880 Speaker 3: I just want to say, like, this episode was supposed 1312 01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:10,440 Speaker 3: to be a celebration of LGBTQ plus culture. We started 1313 01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:13,160 Speaker 3: out with like an innocent little bit about like oh 1314 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,720 Speaker 3: ha ha, like we're being exclusionary. Of course, it's kind 1315 01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:21,240 Speaker 3: of a commentary on discourses around inclusion and pride, but 1316 01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,679 Speaker 3: you know, we everyone who's listening knows that our hearts 1317 01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:25,599 Speaker 3: are in the right place. We did a big bit 1318 01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:28,200 Speaker 3: about how you're the third person whatever. You know, all 1319 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:32,160 Speaker 3: of it isn't good fun now, suddenly we're in such 1320 01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:36,960 Speaker 3: a grotesque place and we're you're asking me what my 1321 01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:41,920 Speaker 3: favorite sex positions are with barely legal women that I are. 1322 01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:45,360 Speaker 1: Fully legal twenty six. It's a very respectful age. We 1323 01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:46,120 Speaker 1: know you're straight. 1324 01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:48,360 Speaker 4: We don't think you're creepy. Other than the fact that 1325 01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,679 Speaker 4: you want up the statue Liberty's dress against her consent. 1326 01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:53,599 Speaker 3: How do you know that it was against her consent? 1327 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,840 Speaker 1: She has that sign that's like immigrants, like, come on in. 1328 01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:05,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm an immigrant. My career is going to look 1329 01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,960 Speaker 3: very different when this episode's over. And I think when 1330 01:09:07,960 --> 01:09:10,439 Speaker 3: I'm no, I think in a bad way. But I 1331 01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,400 Speaker 3: think what I'm struggling with is where do I personally 1332 01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,880 Speaker 3: go from here? You know, I don't think I am 1333 01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,280 Speaker 3: masculine and straight enough to suddenly transition into the into 1334 01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:20,439 Speaker 3: the straight podcast space. 1335 01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,679 Speaker 1: I think you could, Yeah, try it right now, really quick. 1336 01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:26,040 Speaker 3: Did you watch the game last night? 1337 01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:36,280 Speaker 4: Fucking I was playing paintball and my hopper jammed. I 1338 01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,640 Speaker 4: was playing paintball and my fucking hopper. I got an 1339 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,439 Speaker 4: automatic hopper that it has you turn it on and 1340 01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,880 Speaker 4: it has this little lever that you're like irritates the 1341 01:09:44,880 --> 01:09:48,160 Speaker 4: ball so that it's not supposed to jam, but the 1342 01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:49,400 Speaker 4: ball got jammed in there anyway. 1343 01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,640 Speaker 1: It's just like pizza, Like it is too hot, it 1344 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:54,840 Speaker 1: doesn't taste good, but when it's too cold it doesn't 1345 01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:57,760 Speaker 1: taste good. Like there's like this third temperature that's like 1346 01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,479 Speaker 1: somewhere between too hot and too cold that tastes super good. 1347 01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, And when I put my a Co two tank 1348 01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 4: in the back of my guns sometimes if I don't 1349 01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:09,000 Speaker 4: put it in right, it gets there's some little frost 1350 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,400 Speaker 4: over and it's kind of freaky because I'm worried it'll explode. 1351 01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,000 Speaker 1: And do you guys eat mozzarella sticks or is that 1352 01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:14,479 Speaker 1: just me? 1353 01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,880 Speaker 4: In The biggest part a paintball that you have to remember, 1354 01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:19,800 Speaker 4: even though you might feel like a fucking nube is 1355 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:23,280 Speaker 4: where your eyeglasses because you can do some serious damage 1356 01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:23,720 Speaker 4: to your eyes. 1357 01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:27,919 Speaker 1: But seriously, if you're eating breadsticks, that's pussy behavior. 1358 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,240 Speaker 3: So I think what we're learning is that I actually 1359 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,720 Speaker 3: think we made the right decision Sam, you and I 1360 01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,240 Speaker 3: as straight man, I think we made the right decision 1361 01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,720 Speaker 3: pretending to be gay for this podcast because I have 1362 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:41,160 Speaker 3: to say, you know, to end on a positive note. 1363 01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,960 Speaker 3: I think our work speaks for itself, and we are 1364 01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:45,920 Speaker 3: much better at being gay podcasters than we are at 1365 01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,040 Speaker 3: being straight podcasters. 1366 01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:48,519 Speaker 4: Okay, completely agree. 1367 01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:49,000 Speaker 1: I agree. 1368 01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:53,720 Speaker 3: And I think it's like we can consider this a 1369 01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:57,519 Speaker 3: form of healing. Like I forgive both of you, You 1370 01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:01,080 Speaker 3: forgive me, and that's final. And I think from now 1371 01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,360 Speaker 3: on we can just go back to, you know, doing 1372 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:04,800 Speaker 3: what we were doing before. And I think, you know, 1373 01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,599 Speaker 3: when you pretend enough, it sort of becomes real. 1374 01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:09,320 Speaker 1: That's true, Fake it till you make it. 1375 01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:12,120 Speaker 3: They always say that, Like I've never felt, you know, 1376 01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,840 Speaker 3: that I was not being myself. I just feel like 1377 01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,720 Speaker 3: I was accessing a different part of myself, you know, 1378 01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:18,560 Speaker 3: the part that's false and contrived. 1379 01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:20,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1380 01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:23,240 Speaker 4: Wow, I think the contrived part of us is the 1381 01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:27,040 Speaker 4: part of us that will be most financially accessible and 1382 01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,599 Speaker 4: relatable to every other. 1383 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:31,360 Speaker 3: You know what it is, And that's what pride is 1384 01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:32,240 Speaker 3: sort of all about. 1385 01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what it's all about. And you know 1386 01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,880 Speaker 1: what it is. It's how Ellen is nice on camera, yeah, 1387 01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:41,640 Speaker 1: but in real life. Mean we're gay on camera and 1388 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,320 Speaker 1: in real life not so much. 1389 01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:47,000 Speaker 3: But and the thing is, honestly, when I think of Ellen, 1390 01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,920 Speaker 3: I still her brand is still nice. Like I can't. 1391 01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,240 Speaker 3: I can't learn. No matter how many things I learned 1392 01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,160 Speaker 3: about her, I still think of her as dancing on 1393 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:55,599 Speaker 3: the TV. 1394 01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I wanted her she I watched her recent special 1395 01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,080 Speaker 4: Me Too. I kind of I kind of wanted it 1396 01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,160 Speaker 4: to be mean, and I think she expected people for 1397 01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,360 Speaker 4: it to be mean, and so she like doubled down 1398 01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:09,360 Speaker 4: and made it even nicer. And I kind of respect that. 1399 01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:14,400 Speaker 4: I thought it was pretty funny. And I think she's 1400 01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:21,880 Speaker 4: just has a has a very uh heavy boulder to carry, 1401 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,639 Speaker 4: you know, and yes, she's sort of can she please 1402 01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:25,479 Speaker 4: us all? She can't. 1403 01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:27,479 Speaker 3: She's like the statue of liberty of comedy. 1404 01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:32,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, and when you're carrying a cisificium boulder, but you're 1405 01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,640 Speaker 4: also the statue of liberty, you're kind of in a 1406 01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:36,360 Speaker 4: squat and it leaves. 1407 01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:39,200 Speaker 3: Everything address open. 1408 01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:42,960 Speaker 4: For perverted, fake gay straight men like George to go 1409 01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:44,599 Speaker 4: up there and take a bunch of pictures of your 1410 01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:48,280 Speaker 4: of your party that let's be honest, that one's not 1411 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,519 Speaker 4: a scratch, that's more than a hatchet woman. That's like, 1412 01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,680 Speaker 4: I don't know, that's like the dent that the Titanic 1413 01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:56,519 Speaker 4: made in an iceberg is probably how BIGS is. 1414 01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,960 Speaker 3: If you think I'm allowing you to, like, you know, 1415 01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,679 Speaker 3: do like one more passive aggressive jab at this idea 1416 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,720 Speaker 3: that I violated the statue of deliberty, despite the fact 1417 01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,400 Speaker 3: that we decided all of that is past us. 1418 01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,880 Speaker 4: You know what, I will say, because you said something earlier, 1419 01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:15,880 Speaker 4: you said about like even if it's like playful, you 1420 01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,840 Speaker 4: still feel it and it's real. I find that sometimes, 1421 01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,840 Speaker 4: not just sometimes, a lot of times, doing a sustained 1422 01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:25,240 Speaker 4: bit where you're fake fighting actually does create feelings of 1423 01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:28,000 Speaker 4: like tension and stress, like in your body. Yeah, And 1424 01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:32,120 Speaker 4: I just want to say, I think you both are 1425 01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,479 Speaker 4: so kind and funny and brilliant, and I love you 1426 01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:38,720 Speaker 4: both so much and really adore you. And even doing 1427 01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:42,640 Speaker 4: a fake bit where we're fighting feels hard after a 1428 01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,880 Speaker 4: certain point because I'm like I, even in the world 1429 01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:49,040 Speaker 4: of what we're creating together, I want there to be 1430 01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:53,599 Speaker 4: real reconciliation in like peace. I don't know if I 1431 01:13:53,640 --> 01:14:00,280 Speaker 4: want these people in this fake like metaphysical what ever, 1432 01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,160 Speaker 4: sure face should want them to walk away from each 1433 01:14:03,200 --> 01:14:07,559 Speaker 4: other being like, oh, I'm a fake gay. People think 1434 01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:12,360 Speaker 4: I'm a pervert because I allegedly did this impossible thing. 1435 01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:15,920 Speaker 4: Because thereat the statue is frankly Cement and stone you 1436 01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,439 Speaker 4: can't look up it. Yeah, So I just wanted to 1437 01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:22,200 Speaker 4: put the offer that that I actually really don't like 1438 01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:25,599 Speaker 4: to fight, even in bits, even though it's like kind 1439 01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,400 Speaker 4: of the thing that I do the most all the time. 1440 01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:30,880 Speaker 3: Patti, Well, we love you more than you can imagine. 1441 01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,120 Speaker 3: We basically I think you're literally like one of the 1442 01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:35,759 Speaker 3: most talented people I've ever met my life. 1443 01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:39,080 Speaker 1: Patty, we love you more than you can imagine. And 1444 01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:42,200 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you did this podcast. And I think 1445 01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:46,240 Speaker 1: the fake fighting is unfortunately funny, but I also crave reconciliation. 1446 01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:50,960 Speaker 4: I do so well, thank you for saying that. That 1447 01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:52,519 Speaker 4: really means a mountain to me. 1448 01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,000 Speaker 3: And I just want to say, sorry, go ahead. 1449 01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,280 Speaker 4: No, I was just I was just gonna say. I 1450 01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:04,920 Speaker 4: think even reconciliation in the form of a bid or 1451 01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:08,639 Speaker 4: a joke, and in these fake characters that we create 1452 01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:11,360 Speaker 4: to make each other laugh or other people laugh, even 1453 01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:17,439 Speaker 4: fake reconciliation can give us a bump of dopamine in 1454 01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:20,000 Speaker 4: such a dark world. That's why we watch stories like 1455 01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,559 Speaker 4: movies and TV where we see characters who aren't real 1456 01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,880 Speaker 4: on screen falling in love and you know, winning the 1457 01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,760 Speaker 4: big game. We see them win, and it gives us 1458 01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:32,960 Speaker 4: a sense of hope and an aspirational target that like, 1459 01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:34,720 Speaker 4: I could maybe feel that in my own life, and 1460 01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:36,680 Speaker 4: I think we have an opportunity to create that in 1461 01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:39,639 Speaker 4: ourselves in these skits that we do with each other. 1462 01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:54,439 Speaker 3: Sorry, Sam Well, I actually really liked what Patty was saying, 1463 01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,200 Speaker 3: and I want to I think a common theme that 1464 01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:57,599 Speaker 3: I'm seeing. 1465 01:15:57,720 --> 01:15:58,680 Speaker 1: I liked it. I just wanted to hear what you 1466 01:15:58,680 --> 01:15:59,080 Speaker 1: had to say. 1467 01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:02,120 Speaker 3: A common theme that I'm seeing is this idea both 1468 01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:05,719 Speaker 3: you know, with Ellen with straight and gay, with bits 1469 01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,400 Speaker 3: and not bits, this idea that sometimes fake can be 1470 01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:12,920 Speaker 3: more real than real, like there are certain actually authentic 1471 01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:16,960 Speaker 3: things that can only be expressed within a fake context. 1472 01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:20,120 Speaker 1: I liked what Patty said better. 1473 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:26,120 Speaker 4: Really, I think what George said has more, uh has 1474 01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:29,960 Speaker 4: more bearings to be like a Ted talk or to 1475 01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:33,599 Speaker 4: be like a thesis in a in an academic journal. 1476 01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,360 Speaker 4: That's that's I'm just referencing saying that I like saying 1477 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:37,160 Speaker 4: academic journal. 1478 01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:40,479 Speaker 1: Well, call Mikolitis, and how do I get cooking on 1479 01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:40,880 Speaker 1: that is? 1480 01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:45,080 Speaker 3: Mickleanis It's Miles Sam. Are you okay? 1481 01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:47,680 Speaker 4: It's been a long time since you were on that 1482 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:49,960 Speaker 4: on the UCB stage, right, Yeah. 1483 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:51,040 Speaker 1: It's been a long time. Yeah. 1484 01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:53,080 Speaker 3: Oh it's so what I was gonna say before, and 1485 01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:54,800 Speaker 3: now I'm pushing it, you know, because I already said 1486 01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:56,400 Speaker 3: one thing and I'm saying a second thing. What I 1487 01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:00,160 Speaker 3: was going to say before is that, uh, in terms 1488 01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:03,280 Speaker 3: of the real tension that exists when you're doing a bit, 1489 01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,320 Speaker 3: one thing that I noticed is that when you guys 1490 01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:12,439 Speaker 3: were allied against me, I felt especially marginalized because I'm 1491 01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,320 Speaker 3: also the only one in this studio and you are 1492 01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:18,559 Speaker 3: both together in the other studio. Sure, And actually when 1493 01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:20,640 Speaker 3: Sam and I were doing the bit with Patty, I 1494 01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:22,840 Speaker 3: was like, oh, this is good because I feel there 1495 01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:26,760 Speaker 3: is a connection that's happening across the country from this 1496 01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,840 Speaker 3: studio to that studio because we are creating this triangle. 1497 01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,400 Speaker 3: But then you guys are already close to each other 1498 01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:35,000 Speaker 3: physically already, I feel like there are things I'm not getting. 1499 01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,599 Speaker 3: There's body language I'm not getting. So for you two 1500 01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:43,679 Speaker 3: to then you know, gang up on me felt especially pronounced. 1501 01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:48,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's interesting because I guess there's all the subtext 1502 01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:53,439 Speaker 4: of like what could happen? I think when you're you know, 1503 01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:57,120 Speaker 4: in an argument real or not. You're wondering what the 1504 01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:59,080 Speaker 4: next thing they're going to say is, and you're kind 1505 01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,479 Speaker 4: of like trying to forecast the best that you can 1506 01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:03,240 Speaker 4: in one of those things. If we're in a different space, 1507 01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,120 Speaker 4: It's like if it got so bad, we could like 1508 01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,439 Speaker 4: unplug the TV and you just wouldn't see us, and 1509 01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:09,240 Speaker 4: then you would be alone and we would be together 1510 01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:10,599 Speaker 4: having sex and well. 1511 01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:12,080 Speaker 1: In the sense that is kind of what did happen? 1512 01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know that, but you are the person 1513 01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:18,519 Speaker 4: who cut us out, which made us made me no joke. 1514 01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:21,000 Speaker 4: There was like a moment where I was like, what if, 1515 01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,639 Speaker 4: like he's upset, something happened, he died. 1516 01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:24,679 Speaker 1: What if he died? 1517 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,400 Speaker 3: Maggie jel in the Hole style, Maggie Joel on Hall style. 1518 01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:30,680 Speaker 3: I hate to say it, but I do think we 1519 01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:32,719 Speaker 3: need to know literally we need to wrap. 1520 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:34,760 Speaker 1: Well. 1521 01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:37,280 Speaker 3: I do want to say this was like such a 1522 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:38,200 Speaker 3: breath of fresh air. 1523 01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:43,360 Speaker 1: I agree. I think I love when we can take 1524 01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,040 Speaker 1: Patty come on tour with us. 1525 01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:48,840 Speaker 4: I will, I will, and I would clean, I would 1526 01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:50,479 Speaker 4: make sure you guys are up in the morning. 1527 01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:54,040 Speaker 3: We're literally going on tour in August. Your keys, We're 1528 01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:56,559 Speaker 3: going on for in August and Patty, I want you 1529 01:18:56,600 --> 01:19:00,840 Speaker 3: to email those job offers, tell them, no, I have 1530 01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:03,400 Speaker 3: something better to do. We're doing SpaceX. 1531 01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:06,599 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd rather do small venues across this nation. 1532 01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:10,200 Speaker 3: Some are medium sized, but sure, you. 1533 01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,680 Speaker 4: Don't know how much a meal and drink ticket mean 1534 01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,880 Speaker 4: to me in the quality time of Are you guys 1535 01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:18,360 Speaker 4: going on a bus? Are you flying everywhere? 1536 01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:19,040 Speaker 1: Flying? 1537 01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,200 Speaker 4: And do you know anyone who's. 1538 01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,400 Speaker 1: Ever the police don't destroy boys? Did a bus? 1539 01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:24,280 Speaker 4: That's so fun? 1540 01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:25,200 Speaker 3: Stops? 1541 01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:26,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, stop doing bus? 1542 01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:31,639 Speaker 4: I think what eric Andre and Sarah's. 1543 01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:32,160 Speaker 1: Oh they did a bus. 1544 01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:42,599 Speaker 3: Sarah snookes Sarah. Yeah, that's what turned into the picture 1545 01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,240 Speaker 3: of Dorian Gray, where Sarah Snooke plays thirty seven characters. 1546 01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:48,000 Speaker 3: It was originally this like really extended bit with eric Andre. 1547 01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:48,880 Speaker 1: She worked. 1548 01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,719 Speaker 3: She was really inspired by eric Andre actually, who turned 1549 01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,559 Speaker 3: down the role of Shiv initially in succession. 1550 01:19:57,400 --> 01:19:58,599 Speaker 4: I don't I don't want it. 1551 01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,000 Speaker 1: Well, it was when you you'll be like, oh, that 1552 01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:03,040 Speaker 1: was clearly supposed to be eric Andrey. 1553 01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:07,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, well Shiv is like Shiv is like that you 1554 01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:10,280 Speaker 4: could call your penis a shiv. And then so Mike 1555 01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,400 Speaker 4: pussy being a scratch, it would make sense. 1556 01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,679 Speaker 3: You guys are taking your buddy comedy hour on tour. 1557 01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:17,360 Speaker 1: Sh sh show. 1558 01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:21,000 Speaker 4: Me and Sam got to have our own little aside 1559 01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:22,720 Speaker 4: when you and away in the dark, and I think 1560 01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:24,519 Speaker 4: I would love to have Sam go away in the 1561 01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,599 Speaker 4: dark and then me and you have a sexual moment too, George. 1562 01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:31,599 Speaker 1: I know, Okay, let's let's are we even do going 1563 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:32,439 Speaker 1: to do our final segment? 1564 01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:33,840 Speaker 3: Should we do it like so fast? 1565 01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:36,559 Speaker 1: We're gonna do it so fast our final segment. Now 1566 01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,519 Speaker 1: that we're all gay again in the right ways, we 1567 01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,040 Speaker 1: are going to give a shout out to anything that 1568 01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:45,479 Speaker 1: we are enjoying. People place those things ideas in the 1569 01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:47,720 Speaker 1: style of its doesn't one you're at TRL shouting out 1570 01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:51,080 Speaker 1: to your squad back home? I have one, George, I'm 1571 01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:54,400 Speaker 1: ready to go. Go Okay, what's up pre sources and 1572 01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,000 Speaker 1: purpose around the globe. I want to give a huge shout 1573 01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:59,920 Speaker 1: out to Kylie Minogue's Slow. I think this song is 1574 01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:02,479 Speaker 1: so damn good and I heard it at her concert 1575 01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,240 Speaker 1: and everyone went buck wild, and ever since then, I've 1576 01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:06,920 Speaker 1: been like, damn, this song is so good. The music 1577 01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,519 Speaker 1: video is amazing and sexy, and I'm sort of like, 1578 01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:11,400 Speaker 1: I think she deserves my credit. And I know every 1579 01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,680 Speaker 1: gignner thinks this, but I think it too now and 1580 01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:16,599 Speaker 1: I think it in a bigger, better way. Xoxo Sam. 1581 01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:18,519 Speaker 3: What's up, freaks and losers? I want to give a 1582 01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:22,880 Speaker 3: shout out to sort of like THHC or CBD based cocktails, 1583 01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:26,479 Speaker 3: maybe a canned mocktail, things that are non alcoholic that 1584 01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:29,600 Speaker 3: I can drink. Pagreon listeners know this, but I have 1585 01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,120 Speaker 3: to be for various medical reasons. Callie sober for the 1586 01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:35,120 Speaker 3: next six months, and I am not going through this 1587 01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,640 Speaker 3: summer without having specialty drinks and without feeling like I'm 1588 01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:39,920 Speaker 3: in an altered state. So if you are a brand 1589 01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:41,840 Speaker 3: that can help me by sending me any sort of 1590 01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:45,120 Speaker 3: non alcoholic thing that can get me buzzed in any 1591 01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,360 Speaker 3: other way, I don't care what's in it. Quite frankly, 1592 01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:50,559 Speaker 3: it can be harmful chemicals that are bad for my 1593 01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,719 Speaker 3: body and the environment, but as long as it's not alcohol, 1594 01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:54,639 Speaker 3: please send it to me DM on Instagram. I will 1595 01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:56,200 Speaker 3: send you my address. I don't care who you are, 1596 01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:58,800 Speaker 3: and I would love to try some drinks and I'm 1597 01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:02,280 Speaker 3: happy to do an on screen unboxing. So you have 1598 01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:05,200 Speaker 3: six months. Please start sending them now. I'm at George 1599 01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:08,120 Speaker 3: Savers on Instagram. 1600 01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:11,280 Speaker 4: What's up Freaks and Losers? I want to give it sorry, 1601 01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:13,320 Speaker 4: what's up Freaks and Losers? I want to give a 1602 01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:18,240 Speaker 4: shout out real quick to rides. I just started going 1603 01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:20,760 Speaker 4: to theme parks again. I love I just and I 1604 01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:22,439 Speaker 4: and I haven't been in like ten years, and I 1605 01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:25,599 Speaker 4: just started writing roller coasters again, and I forgot how 1606 01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,840 Speaker 4: how good it feels to be shaken around and thrown 1607 01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:32,040 Speaker 4: upside down and field g forces and stuff. It really 1608 01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:34,040 Speaker 4: makes me feel in my body you can't think about 1609 01:22:34,040 --> 01:22:37,240 Speaker 4: anything else. And I really think like it helped me 1610 01:22:37,479 --> 01:22:40,519 Speaker 4: kind of like step back in touch to my inner 1611 01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:45,439 Speaker 4: child who has been abused, neglected us and stinking, stinking 1612 01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:47,400 Speaker 4: it up inside there for so long. So I just 1613 01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:49,160 Speaker 4: want to say say thank you Rides. 1614 01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:52,720 Speaker 1: Thank you Rides Well, thank you Patty for an amazing episode. 1615 01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:56,040 Speaker 1: And we'll see you soon. 1616 01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:58,479 Speaker 4: See you and I love you. 1617 01:22:58,720 --> 01:22:59,120 Speaker 1: Bye. 1618 01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,400 Speaker 3: Podcast and is Now Want more? 1619 01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:05,960 Speaker 2: Subscribe to our Patreon for two extra episodes a month, 1620 01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:09,920 Speaker 2: discord access and more by heading to patreon dot com. 1621 01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:13,320 Speaker 2: Slash Stradio lab and for all our visual earners. Free 1622 01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:16,320 Speaker 2: full length video episodes are available on our YouTube. 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