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Speaker 1: Welcome to Software Radio. I'm your host today, Steve Balistaria

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Speaker 1: joining me, and we have a very special guest today,

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Speaker 1: Jake Lockett, who's an actor out of Los Angeles. But

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Speaker 1: Jake as a really interesting biography. He's a lot more

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Speaker 1: a life on screen. You're or there's an idea about

427
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: it and you understand that that's what has to have happened,

428
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: but you don't believe it. And for me, I'm very

429
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 1: much a window actor, meaning I let people in. I

430
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: don't present a scene like you you see me going

431
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 1: through it and it is um it is. It was

432
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,640
Speaker 1: a lot of work to be able to do that.

433
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 1: It took, It was a it was a frustrating thing.

434
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 1: So you kind of have to immerse yourself in that

435
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: character while you're you know, portraying that role, so you know,

436
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: it's it's being real at that point, am I right?

437
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: There is my often to a degree, I mean to

438
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: a degree. I think you know, there's you know, people

439
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: who consider themselves method actors, meaning they they jump into

440
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: that life like they don't think once they're in that role,

441
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: once they're shooting, they don't leave that character. So outside

442
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: of the shooting, there that person that you know, which

443
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: which isn't what I what I do it. It's more

444
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 1: about the development of the character in in my life.

445
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 1: Once you once you develop all that stuff, then it's

446
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: about being present, you know, and just being there. But

447
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: for me, I really had to like understand who where,

448
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: what would have to have happened for me to do that?

449
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: And it was you know, because that because that makes

450
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 1: you look at yourself, right, because no one wants to

451
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: think that they would ever do that, right, So it

452
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 1: really forces you to personify like what Like I said, like,

453
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 1: you know, maybe there's nothing that would ever let you

454
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: Steve have done that obviously, Um, but you know what

455
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: if you can think about it, what could it have been?

456
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: And so like that. That was really difficult for me

457
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: because again that's not something I agree with. I don't

458
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 1: think that's what once should do. But obviously it's happened,

459
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: so those people thought at some point that it was

460
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: what they had to do. So how do I portray

461
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: that in empathetic way as much as possib Yeah? Yeah,

462
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: it's funny because how you're describing as uh. One of

463
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 1: the war films I worked on, Jason Isaacs, that British actor. Um,

464
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: he was playing a Special Forces officer. So when he

465
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: found out what my background was as a security overall

466
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: security advisor, he'd come walking up to me between takes

467
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: and he asked me, you know, what would you be

468
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: thinking about during this? What would you what would your

469
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: reaction be with this? How would you talk about this?

470
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: So we we were talking and I said, you if

471
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: you want to look like the real kind of deal,

472
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: I had a Special Forces ran said where this during

473
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: the the next shot? Because anyone who's an SF guy

474
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: will see that ring and they'll recognize it. Well, Jameson

475
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: is not really a big guy, so he put my

476
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: ring on. It was falling off, so we had to

477
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: tape it all up. But then the in the UH

478
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: in the UH got that scene got cut out on

479
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: the cutting room floor. Say, no one ever saw the

480
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 1: But it was interesting because he's like, yeah, I want

481
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: to get this right because you know, I want to

482
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: talk like you guys would talk. I want to act

483
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: kind of like you guys were. And I was like, well,

484
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: you know, it's a film, and we understand that things

485
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: can't always be totally realistic sometimes because of you know,

486
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: you're trying to tell a story. But it was interesting

487
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: because you know, he was getting in his mind he

488
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: wanted to be you know, he wanted to be that

489
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: person while they're you know, the cameras are turning, so

490
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: I kind of get that. It's it's really interesting to me,

491
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: especially I mean getting to see a little bit of

492
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: it from you know, my perspective, which was out the

493
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: creative process. But I love watching how it all comes together,

494
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: and I think that's really really interesting. Yeah, I'm I'm

495
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: the same way you know it was. It was whenever

496
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: I'm on set, it's always magic, you know what I mean.

497
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: I'm not bored. I'm not I'm not a one of

498
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 1: my one is my shot. When I can, I go

499
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: home like it. I think it's all interesting. I think

500
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: it's the art form. The collaboration throughout the art form

501
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: is really cool. Um yeah, I mean, I said, those

502
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: those guys, they told me a lot, you know, from

503
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 1: what what prisoners go through. Like I don't know if

504
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: you've ever seen anything like live like videos of someone

505
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: being beheaded, but the some of the things that I

506
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: looked into just to understand what world would be, what

507
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 1: that world would be threatened with. And I asked one

508
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: of the exteal, I was like, why did those gets?

509
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: Why do those people always look so calm? And he said,

510
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: one of the things that they do is they take

511
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: you out on a regular basis and they they um

512
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 1: tell you they're gonna do it. They tell you they're

513
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: gonna do it, they're gonna take it, and then they don't.

514
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: So after hundreds of times they of them doing that,

515
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: you're almost ready for it to happen. It's just it's

516
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: that collaboration that allowed the piece to be what it was,

517
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: you know, is being able to talk to everyone on

518
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: set because those guys are producers, they're also they also

519
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: have roles in the show. Um, and it was it was.

520
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: I think it was imperative for me and what I

521
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: had to deal with as the character two. UM, be

522
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: able to be there in the right moment, in the

523
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: right space in my head. Now, that's that's that's awesome.

524
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, do you have a favorite type

525
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: of Do you like being heavy, the bad guy, the

526
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: good guy? Are you like comedy? Is there any favorite

527
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: or do you just take it as it comes and

528
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: you just want to experience all of it right now?

529
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm taking it mostly as it comes, But I would

530
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: have to say I I I like it all. I

531
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: played a lot of bad guys. Um, I think a

532
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: bad guy is fun. You you don't have a lot

533
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: of rules, which is awesome. You know, you can kind

534
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: of make it whatever you want it. Of course, I

535
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: like the idea of being the hero, the reluctant hero

536
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: as a character that I'm I'm a fan of. I

537
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: think they're the most honest because I don't think a

538
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: lot of times in real life heroes are said trying

539
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: to be heroes they're they're just doing something that was

540
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: put in front of them and they don't. Then they

541
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: don't back down, you know, they step up to the

542
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: to the situation. And so I like that type of role. Um,

543
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: And you know, I like it all. I can't I

544
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: can't really, I don't want to say. I can't really

545
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: say that one thing is preferred over the other. I

546
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: liked doing it all from comedy. I like the collaboration

547
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: that everyone has. Everyone wants to make the joke plan.

548
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: It's such a team effort. Um. In drama, when people

549
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: are good, it's it's you're you're living different lives. You know,

550
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: you really are living different lives, and it's it's amazing.

551
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: Um too. That's part of that's the main reason we

552
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: got into this is to be able to live different

553
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: I said, actors, you know, to portray different stories, and

554
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I love it all, man, I gotta be honest.

555
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: There's not one thing that I think is better. I

556
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: really enjoy doing it all. No, that's awesome. Um. I

557
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: saw in your bio that you trained and I'm probably

558
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: gonna mispronounce this, say CALLI it's a Filipino martial art. Yeah, yeah,

559
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: you know, I'll be I'll be perfectly honest with you.

560
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: I wasn't familiar with it, so I have to look

561
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 1: it up. UM, but uh, it seemed really interesting. And

562
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: tell our listeners a little bit about this. And you've

563
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: been doing this for about four years you said, yeah,

564
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: I've been training about four years. It's a it's a

565
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: really um it's a bladd uh weapons martial arts, so

566
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: you're dealing with knives and bolos. It was developed out

567
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: of college UM by permonitu On Chris Tayok. And it's

568
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 1: it's really all encompassing. It's about awareness. UM. You know

569
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: that for me, that's the thing. It really opens you

570
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: up to the understanding, um, what's around you and how

571
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: a lot of times people aren't aware. Helps quantify a

572
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 1: lot of states stuff logically UM, as far as um

573
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: different um, the way things happen and how how to

574
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: avoid them UM. And then it teaches you the motion

575
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: and the motion the reps. Those are the things that

576
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: come into play when actual things are happening in real life.

577
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: You know you're you're not sitting there. You don't have

578
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: time to think about it in your life when when

579
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: all the ship hits the fan, if sorry, I don't

580
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: know if I can say that, but when everything goes down,

581
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: you don't have you don't have time to think about it.

582
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: The reps that you do before that are what come

583
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: into play, and so it teaches you a lot about that. UM.

584
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: You know, I've gotten an opportunity to work with you

585
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: know x UM military and learned from them in that

586
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: as well, people that have had boots on the ground

587
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: and and did those real reps, and it's it's a

588
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: powerful tool. UM. You know. We we work we have

589
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: as tactical group, which is a they work with the

590
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: military and training military. We have a lot of people,

591
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: we have some higher ups that that trained military um folk.

592
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: And then we also have a combat choreography which is

593
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: our our Hollywood UH department if you will, that works

594
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: with doing real choreography in film like the movie The

595
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: Hunted Tommy Lee Jones and Minsia do Toro. We did that, um,

596
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: which is a really powerful UM. Like you watch it,

597
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: you see some real blade work, which is really cool.

598
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 1: That's awesome and uh again, you know, it wasn't something

599
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: I was familiar with until I looked it up and

600
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: then I saw that there's quite a few of the

601
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: Navy Seal Team guys that are firm believers in this,

602
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that's some of the guys you've been

603
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: working alongside with. So that's, uh, that's really cool. I

604
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: was curious if and and you again you segued perfect

605
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: into it, is this something that we're gonna see more

606
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: of in the in the movie industry and you just

607
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 1: answered that, So that's that's neat. Yeah, you know, it's

608
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: something that you can segue into like if you get

609
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: a role and you already know what it's required, right,

610
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's It's helped me a lot and just

611
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: you know, because what part of what we do is

612
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: an integrated combatist. So you really learned to use from

613
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 1: hands to blades to two um um guns, how that

614
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: all plays together, and how to deploy in close quarters

615
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: and like I said, real combat now and then you

616
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: have to then kind of explode that and then put

617
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 1: it into film and how can we make that as

618
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: real as possible? Um Because as anybody who's ever done

619
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: real martial arts are seeing real things happen, the movies

620
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 1: sometimes can be a little frustrating to watch because of

621
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: all the wide open hands and everything that happens so

622
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: it's um it's an interesting experience for sure. Does that discipline,

623
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: that self discipline, does that help with you're acting? I

624
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: think so. I think you know a lot of times

625
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,479
Speaker 1: one of the things that people misses is being able

626
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: to sit back, um and and watch how things go,

627
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: how you interact in auditions, especially like people don't actually

628
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: evaluate how things um. You know, in the military they

629
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: call it the a R. So you do you do

630
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: that as an actor. It's important to do that so

631
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: you know what worked and what didn't. And it's helped

632
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: me those those types of you know, observer experiences have

633
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: helped me um uh, understand things and get better at

634
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,760
Speaker 1: different things that I do in the audition room because

635
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: that's that's a totally different world. Then then the actual

636
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: acting on set that you know, there's that observer rep

637
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: that you can do, and then you also have the

638
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: rep where you're going the room and you're trying to

639
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Speaker 1: book the job and how do you do that the

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Speaker 1: best and give them the most powerful experience that they

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Speaker 1: can receive as well? That's awesome, And I also know

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Speaker 1: you do some personal training on the side as well.

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Speaker 1: You know, how's that going. It's good, It's you know,

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Speaker 1: not exactly a lot of gyms open out here, but

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Speaker 1: you know, you develop what you gotta, you know, you

646
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Speaker 1: learn to survive. And so during this whole thing, I

647
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Speaker 1: was I was doing it by FaceTime, just trying to

648
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Speaker 1: make sure I was able to keep living in life.

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Speaker 1: I want to keep living and not get held down

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Speaker 1: by the fact that you know, there's no TV or

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Speaker 1: film work happening right now. Mhmm, yeah, because everything slowed

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Speaker 1: down right now. So yeah, oh yeah, so there you're

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Speaker 1: probably gonna be coming back in August. Yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: gonna be. My next question is, uh, you know what

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Speaker 1: with the COVID nineteen coronavirus stuff that's going on, when

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Speaker 1: when do you think that, uh, we'll see something you know,

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Speaker 1: back in the production. I guess you could say a

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00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: phase of things going on and what's what's next for you?

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Speaker 1: Do you have anything lined up for one that this

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Speaker 1: stuff is all over? Well, Um, for the first part

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Speaker 1: of that, the production looks to be coming back in August. Uh,

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Speaker 1: some people maybe a little later, depending on where you're at,

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Speaker 1: like Toronto or Vancouver. It should be coming back in August,

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Speaker 1: so it didn' it depends on what the studios want,

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Speaker 1: but it looks like they're be doing what is considered

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Speaker 1: kind of a pot and experience, so they they'll be uh.

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Speaker 1: Once the actors are together, they quarantined for fourteen days

668
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Speaker 1: and then they don't they don't separate, so they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be by themselves a lot, um so that no one

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Speaker 1: gets infected. Um. And then the how people tape is

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Speaker 1: gonna be changing. I don't think there's gonna be any

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Speaker 1: more fight scenes for a little bit or love. Love

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Speaker 1: scenes are gonna be limited just because you can't really

674
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Speaker 1: not share at that point, same thing with fighting and

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Speaker 1: lot of the heavy breathing and things um uh. And

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Speaker 1: then taking will be a little farther apart as far

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Speaker 1: as how close you are, and then you know that

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Speaker 1: that'll that'll that'll get things back in the work until

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Speaker 1: there's a vaccine hopefully which as soon as the later

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Speaker 1: hopefully um. And then um as far as me, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm kind of seeing where things come after this,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I have a couple of things that

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Speaker 1: I'm waiting to hear about, um, whether they're going to

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Speaker 1: go through or not. And then also my writing partner

685
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: nine we've been working together for ten years he's actually

686
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Speaker 1: my manager as well, the same guy that told me

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Speaker 1: I should come down here and do this. We've we've

688
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: been doing a lot of writing and UM, we have

689
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Speaker 1: a couple of TV pilots as well as UM a

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Speaker 1: couple of features that we're shopping gonna start shopping around

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Speaker 1: when everything kind of clears back up. One of them

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Speaker 1: is actually a based around an x UM or XF

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Speaker 1: SF guy coming back UM two after UM being discharged.

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Speaker 1: UM and UH, it's it's an interesting film kind of

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Speaker 1: Keller high Water meets Taken. UM. It's it's a really

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Speaker 1: cool story that I'm excited to tell. UM and a

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Speaker 1: couple of the main characters are both ex military and UM,

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Speaker 1: it'll be fun. It'll be a fun one to shoot.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna shoot a teaser for it after once everything

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Speaker 1: settles down and then move on from there. Well awesome.

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Speaker 1: Well Jake, Uh, we really appreciate your time this morning.

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Speaker 1: I know we got you up earlier, but yeah, we

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Speaker 1: uh we love having you on the show. And hopefully

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Speaker 1: the next time when you play the SF guy, you'll

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Speaker 1: play a good guy here. So uh, yeah, I would

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Speaker 1: love Actually, I was so exactly. I was telling some

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Speaker 1: of the guys, maybe I could pick your brain make

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Speaker 1: sure that we're given this uh this guy because of you,

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Speaker 1: this sf uh some some stuff. Maybe not right now,

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Speaker 1: but I'll try to get your I'll get your email

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Speaker 1: and I'll send you a request an anytime. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if i'd be the guy you want to talk to.

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Speaker 1: I usually did everything the wrong way so when I

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Speaker 1: was in but uh, maybe we'll put you in with

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Speaker 1: one of the Yeah, I will put you on with

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Speaker 1: one of the other s f guys, and because I

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Speaker 1: usually did everything the wrong way. But no, but we

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Speaker 1: really appreciate you having you know, the time for us

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Speaker 1: this morning, uh, you know, and being on the Software

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Speaker 1: Radio podcast, and we hope we can do this again

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Speaker 1: with you again real soon. Yeah, me too. Sounds good.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Steve. I appreciate you, guys. Thank you and

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Speaker 1: all the best to you and uh stay safe out

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Speaker 1: there in l A. Listening to self up to India