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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news, and one of the

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Speaker 1: big stories we're taking a look at today is well,

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Speaker 1: the history of one of the oldest banks in the world,

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Speaker 1: Bank of New York Mellon Market is two hundred and

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Speaker 1: forty years in business. The bank was founded back in

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Speaker 1: seventeen eighty four by Alexander Hamilton, making it the oldest

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Speaker 1: bank here in the US and one of the top

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Speaker 1: twenty banks in terms of age worldwide that's still in

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Speaker 1: continuous operations. I had to sat down chance to sit

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Speaker 1: down exclusively with the CEO of BNY Mellon, Robin Vince,

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Speaker 1: to discuss the milestone and more importantly, what's next.

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Speaker 2: How do you keep a firm like this relevant? Take

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Speaker 2: a listen.

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Speaker 3: Two hundred and forty years is a long time. We've

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Speaker 3: operated over four centuries of history, particularly New York history,

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Speaker 3: and we're getting together with some clients to actually enjoy

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Speaker 3: that and make sure that we mark the moment. We're

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Speaker 3: actually the oldest operating longest operating company in New York,

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Speaker 3: with the oldest member of the B five hundred and

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Speaker 2: But we're looking forward.

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Speaker 3: So innovation at the end of the day is an

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Speaker 3: important part of this story too.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about that innovation.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't get to two hundred and forty

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Speaker 1: years by just dumblock. I mean, even if you go

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Speaker 1: through the list of some of the banks that sort

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Speaker 1: were born out of the birth of this nation, at

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Speaker 1: least you're in the United States and the ones that

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Speaker 1: are still there, I mean, what gets you to another

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Speaker 1: to forty It's not just going to be the same playbook.

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Speaker 2: Isn't it.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think you're exactly right that innovation is at

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Speaker 3: the very heart of that. You only get to be

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Speaker 3: old if you're resilient and if you're innovative focused on

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Speaker 3: your customers.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the.

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Speaker 3: Day, it's our clients that guide our progress as a

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Speaker 3: company and to operate through all of the different ups

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Speaker 3: and downs that we see the world wars that have

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Speaker 3: occurred over our history, the very birth of the nation.

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Speaker 3: Literally the British were leaving just months before the foundation

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Speaker 3: of our company. You have to be resilient, you have

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Speaker 3: to focus on your customers, and you have to.

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Speaker 1: When we talk about sort of the next big structural

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Speaker 1: changes that are going to shake up banking, shake up.

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Speaker 2: The finance industry. Right now, there's a lot of talk

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Speaker 2: about AI.

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Speaker 1: Is that moment here now or is this still something

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Speaker 1: in the future that you're preparing for.

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Speaker 2: Well, the answer is both. It is here.

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Speaker 3: There are opportunities now, but those opportunities are going to

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Speaker 3: get more and more exciting over the coming years. I

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Speaker 3: was actually just back from the West Coast where I

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Speaker 3: spent time with some of the luminaries of the AI industry,

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Speaker 3: really hearing their thoughts and participating with some others in

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Speaker 2: And I think it's going to be very important.

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Speaker 3: I think it's going to create great opportunities for our

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Speaker 3: to be honest, it can be a win win win,

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Speaker 3: but it's going to take a little bit of time.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk a little bit more about what's going on today.

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Speaker 3: You just had earnings about a month ago. Here they

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Speaker 3: please a lot of investors.

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Speaker 1: The turnaround that you've been orchestrating there seems they've really

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Speaker 1: taken hold. There's a lot of focus right now on

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Speaker 1: organic growth or investors are focusing on organic growth. How

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Speaker 1: much do you see that organic growth rate, the one

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Speaker 3: Well, our team has been laser focused over the past

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Speaker 3: organic growth. We have this incredible franchise around the world.

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Speaker 3: We serve so many clients all around the world in

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Speaker 3: really about approaching it through that lens that creates organic growth.

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Speaker 3: We are excited about the fact that we have really

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Speaker 2: Continue to do that. As part of our.

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Speaker 1: Journey geographically, where is most of that growth going to

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Speaker 3: Where it's truly around the world. We serve clients all

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Speaker 3: across the globe now. I do think there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of opportunity in the US right now, given everything that's going.

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Speaker 2: On in the economy here.

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Speaker 3: But we're also in the import export business of financial services,

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Speaker 3: So we help our international clients access the United States markets,

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Speaker 1: Are you seeing more demand for that, not only just

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Speaker 3: There's certainly demand in the United States for capital because

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Speaker 3: the US economy has really surprised many people, I think

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Speaker 3: Just a lot of interest in participating in this market.

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Speaker 3: And then outside of the US, the world's a pretty

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Speaker 3: complicated space right now. We have wars in different regions,

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Speaker 1: When you look at some of the disruptions going on

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Speaker 3: Well, here's where I'm going to go back to being

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Speaker 3: But the world is a complicated place, and we have

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Speaker 1: These days, with regards to economic conditions, both here in

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Speaker 3: Well, another way that you get to be old is

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Speaker 3: never by being comfortable, by always challenging yourself. Got to

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Speaker 3: we view being cautious, thoughtful, and prepared as an essential

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Speaker 3: Having said all of that, I do think that the

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Speaker 3: that we're benefiting from a whole bunch of different things

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Speaker 2: We have availability of labor.

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Speaker 3: Those things are contributing to a very significant upside in

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Speaker 3: We've got the innovation that we just talked about for AI.

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Speaker 3: These things collectively are really creating a pretty powerful economic engine. Now,

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Speaker 3: not everybody has been participating in it, but for the

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Speaker 3: there's been a psychological boost there when they see those

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Speaker 1: Robin Vince, celebrating a two hundred and fortieth anniversary of

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