WEBVTT - Construction of a Dictatorship

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peepsend. Welcome to WIKP Daily with me your girl,

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<v Speaker 1>Danny Almody recording from a nondisclosed location because I'm actually

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<v Speaker 1>not in the home bunker. Dear friend, I am excited

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<v Speaker 1>for today's conversation that I'm bringing to you today, which

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<v Speaker 1>is with Will Ragland, who is the vice president for

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<v Speaker 1>research at the Center for American Progress Action. And we

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<v Speaker 1>get into a conversation today about Project twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>the plans that are in store for America if in

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<v Speaker 1>folks five days, Donald Trump is re elected President of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States, and Will and I kind of go

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<v Speaker 1>through the ways that Project twenty twenty five will up

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<v Speaker 1>end democracy, will up end our social safety nefts, will

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<v Speaker 1>up end American life as we know it. And you

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<v Speaker 1>think you know to yourself, well, it's five days until

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<v Speaker 1>the election. Fifty million people have already voted. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of folks still vote on election day, so there is

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<v Speaker 1>still time for this conversation, still time to alert those

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<v Speaker 1>in your life to how important and consequential this election

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<v Speaker 1>and this moment is. We need everyone engaged, we need

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<v Speaker 1>everyone educated. And this conversation with Will provides us with

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<v Speaker 1>a little more in depth plans of what the future

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<v Speaker 1>of America will look like. And I'll tell you what.

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<v Speaker 1>If you've listened to Elon musk recent comments about America

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<v Speaker 1>needing to face hardship in the short term in order

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<v Speaker 1>for there to be prosperity in the long term. That

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<v Speaker 1>coming from an effing billionaire who's not going to give

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<v Speaker 1>up a damn thing, but tells the rest of us

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<v Speaker 1>that we are going to need to sacrifice under the

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<v Speaker 1>Trump regime and get rid of social safety nets, get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of entitlement programs, get rid of all of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that allow for the most vulnerable among us to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to thrive in this society. Yeah, the future

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<v Speaker 1>under Donald Trump and Elon Musk looks dark. The future

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<v Speaker 1>under twenty twenty five looks star five days, friends, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're either moving forward or we're going back to the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteenth century. Take a listen to this interview with Will Ragland,

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<v Speaker 1>vice president of Research at the Centate for American Progress. Folks,

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<v Speaker 1>I am very happy to welcome to WOKF Daily, the

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<v Speaker 1>vice president for Research at the Cene for American Progress action,

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<v Speaker 1>Will Ragland, to talk to us today about Project twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five, Donald Trump and how he wants to go

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<v Speaker 1>even further than what has been out lined in this

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<v Speaker 1>over nine hundred page manifest So will welcome talk to

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<v Speaker 1>us about what it means to go further. Being as

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<v Speaker 1>how I thought this was the cliff.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, no, I think broad the twenty twenty five's

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<v Speaker 2>outline and move toward an authoritarian state is what people

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<v Speaker 2>should take away from this nine hundred page play. There's

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<v Speaker 2>a whole host of policies in there, but at its

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<v Speaker 2>core is a roadmap, a manual to eliminate any hurdles,

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<v Speaker 2>any person anything, any policy that would be able to

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<v Speaker 2>restrict or tell the president no on a particular policy

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<v Speaker 2>they want to enact. Probably twenty twenty five. That's their

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<v Speaker 2>first priority. That's exactly what they try to lay out.

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump laid that out in the first administration and

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't able to get it done because of the people

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<v Speaker 2>that were able to tell them no or pump the breaks.

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<v Speaker 2>And a lot of those folks were career officials, career

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<v Speaker 2>federal employees, climate scientists, attorneys, doctors, Department general counsels who

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<v Speaker 2>basically said, you can't do this because it's against the law.

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<v Speaker 2>The number one priority that he has made clear in

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<v Speaker 2>his administration, and that probably twenty twenty five in the

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<v Speaker 2>other plants have outlied is a way to eliminate any

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<v Speaker 2>of those physicians that can tell them nough and replace

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<v Speaker 2>them with loyalists. They're planning right now to replace up

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<v Speaker 2>two fifty thousand career staff experts and folks that could

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<v Speaker 2>be a hurdle to him and were in the first administration,

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure he can start implementing some of the

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<v Speaker 2>policies that you may have heard about, whether it's weaponizing

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<v Speaker 2>the Department of Justice or a mass deportation plan, or

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<v Speaker 2>eliminating the Department of Education, eliminating public sector unions and

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<v Speaker 2>being able to spend appropriated dollars in a much freer

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<v Speaker 2>way than Congress and Ted's. So they lay that out

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<v Speaker 2>and he takes it a step further. We have seen

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<v Speaker 2>him talk repeatedly about his plan for the judiciary and

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<v Speaker 2>his appointments and court shopping. So he has worked and

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<v Speaker 2>it had actually made a lot of progress, and that

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<v Speaker 2>during his first term. His second term will take it

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<v Speaker 2>even further. And we saw the Supreme Court with their

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<v Speaker 2>immunity decision basically get rid of any accountability for the

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<v Speaker 2>president as long as he can figure out a way

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<v Speaker 2>to defend his actions in his official capacity. That is

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<v Speaker 2>the overarching thing that's in Project twenty twenty five. It's

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<v Speaker 2>what he tried in his first administration and what he's

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<v Speaker 2>outlining again. We saw it last night at Madison Square Garden.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen it with this top policy folks, whether it

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<v Speaker 2>be Russ Boat, who is his omb director, or Steven

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<v Speaker 2>Miller really laying this out and admitting that they are

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<v Speaker 2>working to craft work arounds, loopholes to make sure that

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<v Speaker 2>there is no friction between what a President Trump wants

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<v Speaker 2>to do and what rules of regulations will allow him to.

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<v Speaker 1>So talk to me about this, because these are things

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<v Speaker 1>that we've been talking about on WOLLKF for well over

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<v Speaker 1>a year, right, talking about the dangers of Project twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five, talking about Steven Miller, talking about Steve Benn

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<v Speaker 1>and talking about the construction of a dictatorship that can

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<v Speaker 1>move outside of the bounds of the Constitution in order

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<v Speaker 1>to give the executive branch aka Donald Trump, full and

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<v Speaker 1>complete power. You remove fifty thousand civil servants from their post,

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<v Speaker 1>you institute an entire regime shift and change. How do

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<v Speaker 1>you upend the constitution? Or do they just not even care, Like, basically,

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<v Speaker 1>who's going to stop them. They're going to go before

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of there'll be a bunch of lawsuits that

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<v Speaker 1>will run them up. They'll be put in front of

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<v Speaker 1>federal judges that will just what Rubbert Stamp, Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>kick it up to the Supreme Court. They'll say it's

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<v Speaker 1>presidential and keep it moving. What does pushback then actually

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<v Speaker 1>look like?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great question. So, I mean, at its core, democracy,

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<v Speaker 2>democratic governance requires trust in our institutions, trust in general

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<v Speaker 2>things that are factual. This requires a baseline of trust

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<v Speaker 2>in our election systems, in our courts, in our media,

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<v Speaker 2>in our churches to some extent, and what we've seen

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<v Speaker 2>over the last several decades is an increase of distrust

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<v Speaker 2>in a lot of these bedrock institutions that help us

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<v Speaker 2>live a normal and orderly life. To make sure we're

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<v Speaker 2>driving on the right side of the road, to making

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<v Speaker 2>sure that school lunches are made, all the way up

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<v Speaker 2>to making sure whether something's constitutional or not. There are

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of facets to this that could come to play,

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<v Speaker 2>but at its core, people us have to have a

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<v Speaker 2>baseline trust in those institutions. And while that had been

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<v Speaker 2>declining up until twenty sixteen, twenty fifteen, really when Trump

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<v Speaker 2>came on the scene, he tried to light that on fire.

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<v Speaker 2>He tried to destroy any sort of trust in institutions

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<v Speaker 2>that we rely on that give us the constructs, the

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<v Speaker 2>balaries that you will to live our normal lives. So

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<v Speaker 2>addictatorship relies on terra. He moved to a fear based narrative,

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<v Speaker 2>a fear based way of governing, and tried to take

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<v Speaker 2>everything that was not going well in people's lives and

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<v Speaker 2>place that blame on others, immigrants, the media, LGBTQ Committee,

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<v Speaker 2>tres community, you name it, any other thing they said

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<v Speaker 2>last night. I mean, I think this was a direct

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<v Speaker 2>quote from one of the speakers. We have to slaughter

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<v Speaker 2>these other people, right, So step one is tearing down

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<v Speaker 2>that trust to a place where there isn't this sort

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<v Speaker 2>of social contract that binds us anymore. And at step two,

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<v Speaker 2>it's to scare the daylights out of people and offer

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<v Speaker 2>what that he thinks will be the only alternative, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a strong hand. And if people get out of line,

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<v Speaker 2>we have the military to put them back in line.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a doj that would be the president's personal attack.

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<v Speaker 2>Do that's creating lists of people to monitor and watch?

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<v Speaker 2>Are we going to pull certain news outlets license this

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<v Speaker 2>FORFCC licenses? Are we going to threaten reporters for daring

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<v Speaker 2>to tell the truth and investigate certain things? Create this

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<v Speaker 2>level of disorientation and distrusting of the way we choose

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<v Speaker 2>our leaders and how we're represented with the election system.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw it in twenty sixteen, it was even more

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty, and they're doing it again in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me ask you this, because these are things

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<v Speaker 1>that were made very clear at the hate rally at

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<v Speaker 1>Medicine Square Garden. It's something that the media, corporate media

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<v Speaker 1>has been ignoring for roughly nine years and doing a

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<v Speaker 1>piss poor job of highlighting the dangers that Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>and the MAGA Republicans pose on our normal way of

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<v Speaker 1>life in America. And you know, I have said it

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<v Speaker 1>that the reason for this fifty thousand group of loyalists

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<v Speaker 1>on their right wing LinkedIn is so that they can

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<v Speaker 1>institute these changes within the first one hundred days of

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<v Speaker 1>a Trump administration, because people love to believe that they

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<v Speaker 1>have more time than they do. So can you talk

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<v Speaker 1>to us about this timeline that we're working on. If

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, the worst comes to fruition and Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is able to become president again, which will be the

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<v Speaker 1>last presidency this country we'll ever see. What does the

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<v Speaker 1>timeline for you look like? What do folks at CAP

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think about how quickly things will shift?

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<v Speaker 2>I think there are a number of factors. It depends

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<v Speaker 2>on what the setate in the House look like. Ay,

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I do think that as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>part of Project twenty twenty five. You've got your nine

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<v Speaker 2>hundred page policy volume, you've got your conservative LinkedIn. But

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<v Speaker 2>then there's this secret playbook, this one hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 2>day playbook, which is essentially what we know about it

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<v Speaker 2>a set of draft executive orders that will allow them

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<v Speaker 2>to create goopholes and get as much done via executive

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<v Speaker 2>fiat instead of having to work with Congress. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think the timing depends on what Congress looks like. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think they're looking to move at a very fast speed,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're trying to put the personnel in place to

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<v Speaker 2>make that go as quickly as possible. Are they going

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to get all that und pages done

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<v Speaker 2>on the first hundred days. I seriously doubt it, but

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<v Speaker 2>there is a lot in there that they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>move on, and I think probably one of the first

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<v Speaker 2>orders of business will be best deportation. Of what that

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<v Speaker 2>looks like. We're hearing everything from going after folks that

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<v Speaker 2>are here legally under whatever visas, going after undocumented folks

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<v Speaker 2>who may be part of a family and removing that

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<v Speaker 2>entire family. They're talking about getting rid of a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the naturalization processes, and they're talking about, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're born here, whether you should be a citizen.

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<v Speaker 2>They're talking about all of this, and one of their

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<v Speaker 2>biggest proponents of this is Elon Musk, who we found

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<v Speaker 2>out over the weekend was here initially illegally as well

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<v Speaker 2>under a student visa, and started his first business as

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<v Speaker 2>an adocumented immigrant. I don't think they care too much

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<v Speaker 2>about that. I think they're probably looking for a certain

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<v Speaker 2>type of immergrant. But I don't think they understand either,

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<v Speaker 2>just how impactfulness will be on our economy. And you

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<v Speaker 2>know how much folks rely on people who are coming

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<v Speaker 2>here to work and take care of jobs that a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of Americans know.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, the funny thing is, well, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think they give a damn. The fact is is that

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<v Speaker 1>this has everything to do with racism, It has everything

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<v Speaker 1>to do with xenophobia, It has everything to do with hate.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I don't think that they care how the

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<v Speaker 1>economy works for everyone else. They care about how the

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<v Speaker 1>economy will work for the top one percent. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you have nobel economists that have come

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<v Speaker 1>out and have said that Donald Trump's economic plans will

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<v Speaker 1>cause probably the steepest recession, if not just a full

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<v Speaker 1>blown depression that we have seen since like the twentieth century,

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<v Speaker 1>and the biggest crash that this country experienced. I wonder, then,

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<v Speaker 1>what does the recourse look like here. Let's now pivot

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<v Speaker 1>and present the other worldview, which is that of Kamala Harris,

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<v Speaker 1>the Center for American Progress and all of us who

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<v Speaker 1>actually believe in democracy if she manages to win. And

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<v Speaker 1>I come to you today as ballot boxes were just

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<v Speaker 1>set on fire in Washington and Oregon that we are

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<v Speaker 1>seeing all over the news today in another act of

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<v Speaker 1>domestic terrorism, that we have officials like Speaker of the

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<v Speaker 1>House Mike Johnson, who Donald Trump says he has a

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<v Speaker 1>little secret with that they will reveal after the election,

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't believe that he's going to go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and certify the election. If in fact, Kamala Harris wins,

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<v Speaker 1>what does recourse look like, because these people and their

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<v Speaker 1>plans for this country don't just go away with one election.

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<v Speaker 1>And if she is elected and somehow is able to

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<v Speaker 1>get sworn in in January, I don't even know if

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<v Speaker 1>we can call what is needed a rebuild because there

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<v Speaker 1>is so much friction and Donald Trump is priming his

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<v Speaker 1>audience right now for violence. So you know, in your mind, like,

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<v Speaker 1>how does this play if in fact we quote unquote win.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's an excellent question. I think we all have

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<v Speaker 2>to be ready for this to be an ever present fight.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, especially in the next decade. This is not

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<v Speaker 2>going to go away. If Vice President Harris wins. There's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a number of a large number of

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<v Speaker 2>people in this country that are going to continue to

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<v Speaker 2>be distrustful of institutions. There have been people talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the death of deliverism, right the fact that inflation reduction

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<v Speaker 2>I've really delivered for a lot of red areas in

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<v Speaker 2>the country. The fact that our job's numbers an unemployment

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<v Speaker 2>are as good as they are and yes, the one

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<v Speaker 2>challenge with inflation. It's up everywhere, but you know we've

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<v Speaker 2>handled that better than any other developed country. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be hard, and this is going to have

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<v Speaker 2>to be something that we face square in the face.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to look at ourselves in the mirror. We

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<v Speaker 2>have to be honest and transparent with the other side,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have to hold that actor accountable. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's really the best path we're going to do.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to be a long, hard battle even if

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<v Speaker 2>we win, but I think we have to show them

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<v Speaker 2>that show everyone in the country that this job can

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<v Speaker 2>be done, and we're better as a nation when we

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<v Speaker 2>come together. But there's no neat trick that we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to do on the first day, let

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<v Speaker 2>alone the first six months or of those four years.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we really have to think about laying the

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<v Speaker 2>foundation of transparency, accountability and walk in the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think that the role is then for

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<v Speaker 1>organizations like yours, for the Center for American Progress either way, frankly, so,

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<v Speaker 1>to tell me first what you think the role is

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<v Speaker 1>of CAP if there is in fact a Trump regime.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you see your organization.

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<v Speaker 2>First and foremost, I think we're working really hard to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that it's progressive vision and values that we

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<v Speaker 2>have will have a possibility and that X administration. But

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<v Speaker 2>if there is a Trump administration, I think what you'll

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<v Speaker 2>see from places like the Center for American Progress is

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<v Speaker 2>working like the Dickens to make sure that there's transparency,

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<v Speaker 2>that we're calling a spade a spade and making sure

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<v Speaker 2>that we have real accountability, that we're showing people what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on. And it will be tougher, it will be

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<v Speaker 2>harder if things roll out the way he says they

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<v Speaker 2>could roll out. But I think that is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a critical rule for places like us to look

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<v Speaker 2>at the policies that are happening, to paint a picture

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<v Speaker 2>of their impacts, to tell the stories of people who

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<v Speaker 2>are workers who are no longer able to join a union,

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<v Speaker 2>or are no longer able to get school meals for

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<v Speaker 2>their children, or tell the story of the people who's

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<v Speaker 2>liger are being impacted day in and day out, people

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<v Speaker 2>who are being monitored and threatened for trying to create

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<v Speaker 2>environments where there's more access to reproductive health, creating environments

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<v Speaker 2>where you know there's more help for people that need

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<v Speaker 2>it the most creating environments where there is high quality

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<v Speaker 2>education for everybody. You know, one of the things you

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned in this paper that trumps moving further, that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>get talked a whole lot about, is with the elimination

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<v Speaker 2>of the Department of Education, comes elimination of big primary

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<v Speaker 2>funding sources for special education for low income kids. And

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<v Speaker 2>there's no real plan or anything in place to replace that.

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<v Speaker 1>There because they don't want to replace it, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>those children with special needs, low income children don't matter

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<v Speaker 1>in the grand scheme of things, right, so they want

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<v Speaker 1>to basically eliminate the progress that was made in the

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<v Speaker 1>twentieth century and take us all the way back to

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteenth. My last question for you is what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think the role is of cap If Kamala is

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<v Speaker 1>able to win. And again, like we said, this problem right,

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<v Speaker 1>these people, this agenda is not going away. So where

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<v Speaker 1>do you see your role?

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<v Speaker 2>Then our role will be to fight first and foremost

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<v Speaker 2>to ensure that women have access to reproductive healthcare. Again

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<v Speaker 2>our number one priorities, you know, give it away. Congress

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be made up. We're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>to work with states, We're gonna have to work with

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<v Speaker 2>attorneys General to make sure that these rights are put

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<v Speaker 2>back in place, and that's going to be a process

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<v Speaker 2>as well, But that's one of our biggest priorities. The

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<v Speaker 2>second is going to be making sure that we put

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<v Speaker 2>economic supports in place, and economic opportunity and jed that

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<v Speaker 2>in place for people to thrive, for people to continue

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<v Speaker 2>to thrive, to continue to tamp down in place, to

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<v Speaker 2>get to make it so people can afford the things

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<v Speaker 2>they need, especially healthcare. I think there's a lot left

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<v Speaker 2>to do there. We've made a lot of progress since ACA,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's a lot more to do.

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<v Speaker 3>And I really love Vice President Harris's proposal for the

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<v Speaker 3>Sandwich generation, these individuals who are taking care of their

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<v Speaker 3>kids and their parents and working to make sure that

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<v Speaker 3>the care that their parents need and the education that

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<v Speaker 3>their kids need is accept and affordable.

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<v Speaker 2>She's got a clear cut, an awesome play there. I

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<v Speaker 2>think speaks to a lot of people. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've said this before and in other interviews. I really

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<v Speaker 2>think that's one of the sleeper issues that people should

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<v Speaker 2>pay attention to and really resonates with a lot of folks. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>the other side, I just do want to mention this touse.

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<v Speaker 2>You brought it up earlier. It really takes a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of effort for them to figure out a way to

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<v Speaker 2>cut taxes and still increase the taxes on the middle

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<v Speaker 2>class while giving massive cuts to the top end. So

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<v Speaker 2>what do I mean by that? What he says he

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<v Speaker 2>wants to get rid of income taxes, He's going to

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<v Speaker 2>replace that revenue with tariffs, which are sales taxes, they're

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<v Speaker 2>consumption taxes. And the people that's going to hurt the

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<v Speaker 2>most are the middle class, the bottom eighty percent. Who

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<v Speaker 2>is that going to help the most? The richest okay,

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<v Speaker 2>the richest in corporations. Even some of the proposals he's

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<v Speaker 2>put forward that don't go as far as that. For instance,

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<v Speaker 2>cutting the corporate ratedown to fifteen percent would mean a

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<v Speaker 2>fifty billion dollar able tax cut for just one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>largest corporations. So to me, that is something that I

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<v Speaker 2>think is resonating with a lot of voters. I think

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at issue polls Bloomberg have recently, Vice

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<v Speaker 2>President Harris has really closed the gap on middle class economics,

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<v Speaker 2>the cost of goods, And to me, that is where

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like us to continue to focus on in the

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<v Speaker 2>next administration and ensuring debt workers have a voice, a

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<v Speaker 2>collective voice, primarily three unions, to make sure that they

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<v Speaker 2>can collectively bargain for safe work places and adequate pay

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<v Speaker 2>and benefits.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we'll leave it there today. Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for the work that you are doing over at cap

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<v Speaker 1>Action and cap in general. Really appreciate it. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to say the name of the report?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely so. My co author is Kelly McCoy and

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<v Speaker 2>the report that is being released is called five Ways

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump's plans are even more extreme than Project twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing. All right, thank you so much, and we will

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<v Speaker 1>see you on the other side of this election.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>That is it for me today. Dear friends, on wo

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<v Speaker 1>gay up as always, Power to the people and to

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<v Speaker 1>all the people. Power, get woke and stay woke. As

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<v Speaker 1>FA