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Speaker 1: Thursday night. It is May twenty first, the year of

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Speaker 1: or Lord, twenty twenty. We have got an absolute jam

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Speaker 1: to push like twenty percent of it to Sunday. We

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Speaker 1: are talking Ohio State and Michigan today, and we're talking

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Speaker 1: This is not going to be a typical segment only

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Speaker 1: because I saw, like told Colin, I saw like five

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Speaker 1: or six things that caught my eye and they all

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Speaker 2: So we're going to discuss that in just a second.

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Speaker 1: I'm also going to sort of delve into an article

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Speaker 1: that Brandon Marcelo, or national writer here at twenty four

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Speaker 1: seven Sports, put out earlier this afternoon. It caught my eye.

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Speaker 1: This is why I had to change the formatting of

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Speaker 1: the show about a potential dip in sec quarterback play,

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Speaker 1: which I think is pretty likely. How likely is it?

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Speaker 1: What doors could that potentially open? We're gonna circle around that.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about that in a little while. And

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Speaker 1: also I have noticed that there is no one who

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Speaker 1: is neutral on Tennessee recruiting right now. Yes, we're talking

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Speaker 1: who you are. You know who I'm grinning at if

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Speaker 1: everyone because everyone seems to have an opinion. It's either ooh,

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Speaker 1: not so much gonna break down Tennessee recruiting. Everyone's already

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Speaker 1: done that. A lot of you are asking this question,

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Speaker 1: especially outside of Knoxville. A lot of you are asking

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Speaker 1: why would kids go there? What are they selling? Now?

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Speaker 1: A lot of you are making ridiculous allegations. Let me

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Speaker 1: leave it at that, but that's the French minority.

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Speaker 2: Many more.

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Speaker 1: If everything's on the up and up, like why would

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Speaker 2: Well, I know why.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to try to explain to you why, and

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Speaker 1: we're going to do all that tonight. So if you

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Speaker 2: The Late Kick Extra podcast we went over an hour.

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Speaker 1: Typically I don't try and do that, but you loaded

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Speaker 1: many answers to you as possible. We talked about college football,

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Speaker 1: some we talked about things that have nothing to do

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Speaker 1: with college football. One such nothing to do with college

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Speaker 1: football topic that we touched on in that Late Kick

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Speaker 1: Extra podcast Wednesday, that's still available if you haven't downloaded it.

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Speaker 1: I've got to correct before the end of the show.

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Speaker 1: We are jam packed. I mean we were loaded. So

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Speaker 2: So let's get started. Ohio State and Michigan. I think

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Speaker 1: Looked around, checked your phones, saw it on TV, web

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Speaker 1: wherever you get your news. This week, Jim Harbaugh is

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Speaker 1: We've got to beat Ohio State, Harbas said. Nothing makes

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Speaker 1: You did so Illinois five star quarterback, well high school

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy committed to Michigan regardless where he plays out

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Speaker 1: These are California Wide receiver products.

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Speaker 1: The problem for Michigan and the problem for any major

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Speaker 1: didn't care if you just care about your team, national scene,

438
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Speaker 1: that was very much outside of your purview. But if

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Speaker 1: you're watching the YouTube feed right now, you see Jeremy Prutt.

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Speaker 2: What he was able to do.

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Speaker 1: What that man was able to do, is he was

442
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Speaker 1: able to take it and he was able to go

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Speaker 1: into enough living rooms and say, you saw how we started,

444
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Speaker 1: but you also saw how we finished.

445
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Speaker 2: Now how we finished. That's a preview.

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Speaker 1: Of what I think this program is going to be

447
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Speaker 1: under my leadership and direction moving forward. But we need

448
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Speaker 1: you and he got enough of those youes to wrap

449
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Speaker 1: up a top ten class this last cycle, which I

450
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Speaker 1: thought was a borderline miracle that was worked by that

451
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Speaker 1: coaching staff. So then we fast forward a little bit further.

452
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Speaker 1: Now there haven't been any more games played between now

453
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Speaker 1: and then, but they're off to a really hot start

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Speaker 1: in recruiting.

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Speaker 2: That's all they're selling guys. He is able to.

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Speaker 1: Convince over the voices of all the detractors and maybe

457
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Speaker 1: negative recruiters that have set in these kids living rooms

458
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Speaker 1: and pitched against Tennessee. He's been able to overcome enough

459
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Speaker 1: of that and convince kids, I've got a track record. Okay,

460
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Speaker 1: we may not have won big here yet, but look

461
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Speaker 1: where I've been. We won big when I was at

462
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Speaker 1: Alabama the first time, and the second time. We wanted

463
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Speaker 1: Florida State, we wanted Georgia. I won everywhere I've been.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to lose. Once we get an

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Speaker 1: adequate roster, I gotta have you.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jeremy Prutt right now. I gotta have you. Okay,

467
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Speaker 2: you want me to show you how I can develop you.

468
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Speaker 1: Here it is. You want me to show you. I

469
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Speaker 1: know how to evaluate talent. Here's who I've gotten in

470
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Speaker 1: the past. I got all these boxes checked. Look on

471
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Speaker 1: my mantle. Here those my championship rings. I got all that.

472
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Speaker 1: I've been there. We need to get there here, and

473
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Speaker 1: I need you to help me. The finish in twenty

474
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Speaker 1: nineteen was the key. But I'll tell you this. In

475
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty, I think it was. To wrap up the

476
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Speaker 1: last edition of Late Kick Live, we had someone asked.

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Speaker 1: I think it was a guy named Dylan watches the

478
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Speaker 1: program and he asked, all these big games Tennessee has

479
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Speaker 1: coming up in twenty twenty, are there any must win games?

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Speaker 1: And he cited Oklahoma Florida, Georgia, Alabama. Those are the

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Speaker 1: four biggest games I'll say for Tennessee this year. And

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Speaker 1: I think unequivocally the answer is yes. Because here's the problem.

483
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Speaker 1: Can only sell a vision for so long, you can

484
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Speaker 1: only hope for so long. So I just took the

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Speaker 1: role of Jeremy Pruett. But now if I take the

486
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Speaker 1: role of an assistant coach from Georgia or from Florida

487
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Speaker 1: or from Alabama, and I'm in your living room and

488
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Speaker 1: Tennessee strikes out again this year, and they're sitting there

489
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Speaker 1: again seven and five or six and six, whatever the

490
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Speaker 1: case may be, and they've been blown out by the

491
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Speaker 1: four big boy, legitimate national championship contending teams they play.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you point blank, how many more years

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Speaker 1: do you have to see this? Like, if I'm Florida,

494
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Speaker 1: we just I don't know what we did in twenty twenty,

495
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Speaker 1: but I assume Florda's going to be pretty good again

496
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Speaker 1: this year. If I'm Bama, if I'm LSU, if I'm Clemson,

497
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Speaker 1: we have once again been in the National Championship picture.

498
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Speaker 2: Like there's no mystery here, kid. We're there every year.

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Speaker 1: They're there never do you know how old you were

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Speaker 1: the last time we mentioned Tennessee football and college football Playoff? Well,

501
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Speaker 1: we never have because it didn't exist the last time

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Speaker 1: that they were a contender. At the end of the year,

503
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Speaker 1: you only get one college career. Do you really want

504
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Speaker 1: to flush it down the toilet taking a chance in

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Speaker 1: Knoxville when we're proven, we already know, we already got

506
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Speaker 1: the formula. Let's just plug you in and go with

507
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Speaker 1: what you know works in Gainesville, in Tuscaloosa, in Athens.

508
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Speaker 1: That's how quickly things can change. That's what could upset

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Speaker 1: this recruiting class. If you're talking about potentially upsetting it.

510
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Speaker 1: I think they're on a pretty good role right now.

511
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Speaker 1: I don't have any reason to believe a bunch of

512
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Speaker 1: these kids are going to decommit, but I think it

513
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Speaker 1: is critically important for them to win at least one

514
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Speaker 1: of these big games. Get one of those sometimes overhyped,

515
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Speaker 1: but in this case, I think very properly hyped program

516
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Speaker 1: defining wins. Jeremy prewit's going to need one this year.

517
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Speaker 1: You can only sell hope for so long. But man,

518
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Speaker 1: they've done a great job of it so far. Here's

519
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Speaker 1: the other thing. That people wonder. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: many of you want to say it out loud. Subconsciously,

521
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Speaker 1: this is what worries you, though, subconsciously when it comes

522
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Speaker 1: to rival fans of Tennessee, what worries you really is

523
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Speaker 1: You're looking around and you're seeing Jeremy Pruit put together

524
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Speaker 1: a top fifteen class and the top ten classes. Let's

525
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Speaker 1: just say they finished seventh or sixth this recruiting cycle

526
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Speaker 1: and they have sold nothing but hope there's been no

527
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Speaker 1: product on the field they've been able to sell.

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Speaker 2: What you think, in your heart of arts, is.

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Speaker 1: This Pruitt guy, if he just pulled this off with

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Speaker 1: these kinds of records and this little production and that

531
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Speaker 1: baron a trophy case. If he's done this with that,

532
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Speaker 1: what happens when they start winning a few? What happens

533
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Speaker 1: when they're a contender in the SEC East? What happens

534
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Speaker 1: when Tennessee football matters outside of Knoxville, Tennessee and the

535
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Speaker 1: like into November and mid November and late November, and

536
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Speaker 1: god forbid they ever actually slip up and get to

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Speaker 1: Atlanta play for an SEC championship.

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Speaker 2: A lot of you want to stifle Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: A lot of you want to stifle the growth before

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Speaker 1: it really becomes a nuisance for you. I understand if

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Speaker 1: I was a Georgia fan, I'd feel the same way.

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Speaker 2: It's nice to.

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Speaker 1: Just be able to thump them away like a pesky

544
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Speaker 1: gnaty every year. It's nice to run off that string

545
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Speaker 1: like you've run off as a Florida Gator fan. It's nice.

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Speaker 1: I just think that it's borrowed time right now. Not

547
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Speaker 1: telling you they're about to run off a string against you,

548
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Speaker 1: but I am telling you as many reasons as you

549
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Speaker 1: have to be pessimistic about this, I think there are

550
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Speaker 1: as many, if not more, reasons to be very optimistic

551
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Speaker 1: about the run that Tennessee football could be set to

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Speaker 1: go on.

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Speaker 2: Just become a contender.

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Speaker 1: If nothing more, that upsets a lot of what is

555
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Speaker 1: current in the SEC East. I was going to talk

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Speaker 1: about something else. I won't spoil it because I think

557
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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about it on the Sunday Night show.

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Speaker 1: But I was going to talk about something else here.

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Speaker 1: But then I was looking around twenty four seventh sports

560
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Speaker 1: dot Com before I came in pouring down a rain

561
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Speaker 1: in Nashville. I had to wait ti the last minute

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Speaker 1: to come down here. Beautiful rainbow, though, Colin, did you

563
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Speaker 1: see that? I've never seen deeper purple than that in

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Speaker 1: a rainbow. That has nothing to do with what we're

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Speaker 1: about to talk about. So Brandon Marcelo I saw right

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Speaker 1: there on the front page of twenty four seven sports

567
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Speaker 1: dot Com, and he is doing great work. We were

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Speaker 1: in our national editorial meeting the other day. I think

569
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Speaker 1: I saw a Bud Elliott tweeted this out. We're in

570
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Speaker 1: our national editorial meeting. Barely have the words SEC quarterback

571
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Speaker 1: gotten out of someone's mouth. Then Marcelo goes, I'll take it,

572
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Speaker 1: and then you look up and he's got like fifteen

573
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Speaker 1: hundred two thousand words on it today. So he had

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Speaker 1: a really good article. And I say article because I'm

575
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Speaker 1: trying to stop saying peace because I don't even like

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Speaker 1: the way it sounds. And a lot of you have

577
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Speaker 1: pointed that out. Really good article from Brandon Marcelo about

578
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Speaker 1: a potential dip an SEC quarterback play this year. Now,

579
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Speaker 1: some of this is inevitable. Doesn't take a rocket scientist,

580
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Speaker 1: doesn't even take a football fan to know that you

581
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Speaker 1: just had a kid like Tua Tongue Bailoa and a

582
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Speaker 1: kid like Joe Burrow in this conference, and they're both

583
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Speaker 1: gone that much we know, now, how is it going

584
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Speaker 1: to affect the rest of the Southeastern Conference? Because while

585
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Speaker 1: Jake from did not get drafted in the first round,

586
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Speaker 1: he was an established quarterback at Georgia. He was at

587
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Speaker 1: least a known commodity. Whether you liked him or not,

588
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Speaker 1: he was a known commodity.

589
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Speaker 2: He's out.

590
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Speaker 1: So you have uncertainty right now at the quarterback position.

591
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Speaker 1: I think anyone could safely say it. Georgia with Jamie

592
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Speaker 1: Newman a lot of hype, a lot of hope, a

593
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Speaker 1: lot of promise, but don't know what you have there.

594
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Speaker 1: Don't definitively know what we have at LSU. Think you

595
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Speaker 1: don't definitively know. We don't even definitively know what we

596
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Speaker 1: have at Alabama. Because as much as you may have

597
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Speaker 1: confidence in mac Jones, do you know he's going to

598
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Speaker 1: be the starter in week six?

599
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Speaker 2: No, definitively you don't.

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Speaker 1: So there are key changes. But as Brandon Marsla points out,

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Speaker 1: let me read a little bit of this. He points

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Speaker 1: out something that I think is really the core of

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Speaker 1: this entire article. What the SEC is not lacking is

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Speaker 1: quarterback Gurus. No less than five coaches in this conference

605
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Speaker 1: could be considered among the twenty best quarterback coaches in

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Speaker 1: the country. Now he's pointing out Lane Kiffin, Mike Leech,

607
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Speaker 1: Dan Mullin, Jimbo Fisher, he points out Gus mals On.

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Speaker 1: I think you could throw Steve Sarkisen in here at Alabama.

609
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Speaker 1: So that's half a dozen guys that has not been

610
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Speaker 1: has never been the reputation of the SEC. That's what's

611
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Speaker 1: changed down here. Talking about modernizing. I was talking about

612
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Speaker 1: Michigan early. That's what's happened down here. A lot of

613
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Speaker 1: people have done down here in the SEC what Michigan

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Speaker 1: needs to do.

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Speaker 2: But because of that, you.

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Speaker 1: Have a generational talent in Joe Burrow come through LSU

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Speaker 1: and now he's gone. You have a generational talent in

618
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Speaker 1: Tuitungue of Bailo will come through Alabama and now he's gone.

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Speaker 1: But what you don't necessarily have to assume is it'll

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Speaker 1: take them forever. I mean, it may be ten years,

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Speaker 1: fifteen years before they ever see anything resembling that. Maybe so,

622
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Speaker 1: but everything that surrounded them from an infrastructure, coaching standpoint,

623
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Speaker 1: system standpoint, at least that's in place now in the SEC,

624
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Speaker 1: the likes of which you've never seen it in mass

625
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Speaker 1: nearly conference wide. So he continues, similar changes are being

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Speaker 1: made at no less than four SEC programs. And now

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Speaker 1: I want to pause there for a second because that

628
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Speaker 1: kind of doves into another point. But let's talk about

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Speaker 1: how crazy it could get down here in the SE.

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Speaker 1: I say down here because of geographically, that's where I'm located.

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Speaker 1: Down here in the SEC. Crazy happens every year. Okay,

632
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: zoom it out. College football crazy happens every year. If

633
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Speaker 1: you were ever to buy a season preview magazine or

634
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: just write your own predictions down on a piece of

635
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Speaker 1: paper in July, and then revisit that magazine, or revisit

636
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Speaker 1: your predictions in January after the confetti has settled and

637
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Speaker 1: we have a national champion. When's the last time that

638
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: you ever looked back over the span of a season

639
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,439
Speaker 1: and everything you wrote down in July panned out. When's

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Speaker 1: the last time that something didn't happen that you would

641
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Speaker 1: have thought would be crazy if you wrote it on

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Speaker 1: that piece of paper in July. Never, even the most

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Speaker 1: predictable college football seasons in history, crazy stuff's happen in

644
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: the average season a lot of crazy stuff happened, so

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Speaker 1: there's no skill in predicting that. There's also no skill

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Speaker 1: in predicting what it'll be. We know crazy happens every year.

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Speaker 1: We know a fifteen's going to upset A two somewhere

648
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: in the NCAA tournament in a non COVID year.

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Speaker 2: Two.

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Speaker 1: Where you bust your bracket is trying to figure out

651
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Speaker 1: where it's going to happen. So where you bust your

652
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Speaker 1: college football predictions is trying to figure out where it'll happen.

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Speaker 1: But on this show, we don't really care about predictions

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Speaker 1: all that much. So let's talk about it for a second.

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Speaker 1: Where could it happen? How crazy could it get? What

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Speaker 1: if I suggested at precious few places in the SEC

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Speaker 1: where there are returning experienced quarterbacks. What if you just

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Speaker 1: had a mess in the SEC West it was a

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Speaker 1: knife fight as usual, but experience at quarterback ended up

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Speaker 1: winning out, and it was either Bo Nix at Auburn

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Speaker 1: or maybe Kellen Mond and Jimbo Fisher at A and

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Speaker 1: M that came out of nowhere and they kind of

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Speaker 1: you know, crawl bear crawl over broken glass and got

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Speaker 1: themselves to Atlanta, And what if it was Kyle Trask

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Speaker 1: in Florida and Dan Mullen waiting for them in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: In retrospect, I'll tell you what would happen the week

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Speaker 1: leading up to SEC Championship Saturday. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: would break out the keyboards and they would say, we

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Speaker 1: should have seen this coming. These were the two programs

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Speaker 1: with the best combination of head coach slash quarterback guru

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Speaker 1: and returning quarterback in the SEC. And I would probably

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Speaker 1: counter with, no, you shouldn't have seen it coming. There's

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Speaker 1: nothing you know now that you don't know or you

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Speaker 1: didn't know then. We're in December hypothetically. Now we know

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Speaker 1: now Kyle Trask is going to be the starting quarterback

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Speaker 1: for Florida.

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Speaker 2: Dan Mullin's going to be his coach. We know right

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Speaker 2: now Kellen Mon's a starter.

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Speaker 1: In College Station, jimbo Fisher's coach. Does that lead anyone

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Speaker 1: out there to believe? Maybe more so for Florida than

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Speaker 1: A and M. But does anyone believe A and M's

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Speaker 1: coming out of the West. How many of you don't?

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Speaker 1: I don't fault you. You can make a prediction, yours

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Speaker 1: as valuable as mine. I just want you to go

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Speaker 1: on record with it, because a lot of people like

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Speaker 1: to wag their finger at the rest of America.

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Speaker 2: You know, in retrospect, when everyone knows what.

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Speaker 1: Happened, it's easy to make a prediction after games have

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Speaker 1: already happened. A lot of folks, though, will probably sit

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Speaker 1: there if that were to pan out and say, oh,

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Speaker 1: we should have seen this coming.

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Speaker 2: No, you shouldn't.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't mean it can't happen, but I think it'd be

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Speaker 1: pretty crazy. But trask at Florida mind in college jation.

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Speaker 1: I think bo Nix is a little forgotten in this

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Speaker 1: whole equation. But bo Nicks there too. But then Marslo

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Speaker 1: goes on, need to use his full name, Brandon Marcelo,

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Speaker 1: this is not a zoom conference. At nine am on

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Speaker 1: a Tuesday, he said similar changes are being made at

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Speaker 1: no less than four SEC programs. When he says similar,

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Speaker 1: he's talking about maybe you don't think that experience is

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Speaker 1: going to win out at quarterback. Maybe you're not looking

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Speaker 1: at Florida. Maybe you're not looking at Texas A and M.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you're looking for the next what he called the

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Speaker 1: LSU effect. So where could aversion us A sampling of

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Speaker 1: the LSU effect? Pop up well the air Raid and

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Speaker 1: this is mar Brandon Marcelo riding again. The air Raid

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Speaker 1: is back in the SEC with Mike Leach at Mississippi State.

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Speaker 1: Also got kJ Costello transferring in there. Lane Kiffin was

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Speaker 1: the brainchild of Alabama sudden switched to a wide open

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Speaker 1: approach when he was the OC for the Tide. He

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Speaker 1: is now in Oxford, Mississippi, former Southern miss coach Todd

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Speaker 1: Monkin calling the plays with a new quarterback at Georgia,

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Speaker 1: and Gus Malson has turned the key of his offense.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of you have forgotten about this,

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Speaker 1: but remember Gus Malson has hired former Arkansas head coach

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Speaker 1: and former Clemson offensive coordinator Chad Morris.

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Speaker 2: Now, the question on.

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Speaker 1: The planes is how much delegation of the offense and

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Speaker 1: responsibilities from a play calling and week to week game

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Speaker 1: planning standpoint are truly being transferred from Gus Malzon to

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Speaker 1: Chad Morris. And if you were to listen to what's

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Speaker 1: come out down there, it's one hundred percent. If you've

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Speaker 1: ever followed Auburn football, then you know we need to

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Speaker 1: take await and see approach on that. But let's just

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Speaker 1: for sake of argument, say it is Chad Morris offense

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Speaker 1: down there, what's gonna look different? A lot more intermediate passing,

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Speaker 1: a lot more using in the middle of the field,

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Speaker 1: a lot more utilizing an entire playbook and making a

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Speaker 1: defense defend the entire field. Ideally, if you're an Auburn fan,

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Speaker 1: you have a second year quarterback, you have good enough talent. Ideally,

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Speaker 1: that's what the offense would look like this year. So

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Speaker 1: could there be that lightning in a bottle or maybe

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Speaker 1: some smaller lightning bolts, but lightning in a bottle effect

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Speaker 1: somewhere the lights of which we saw last year with LSU.

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Speaker 2: There isn't a roster with the kind of talent LSU

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Speaker 2: has on it.

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Speaker 1: And I don't say that dismissively because I know the

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Speaker 1: best scheme in the world wouldn't have mattered had they

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Speaker 1: brought that thing into two lane last year. There was

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Speaker 1: a reason LSU could do what they did. But there

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Speaker 1: is They're not hurting for talent at Auburn. They're not

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Speaker 1: hurting for talent at these places. Maybe they don't have

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Speaker 1: a roster full of over a dozen future NFL guys

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Speaker 1: in next year's draft, but this was interesting to me

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Speaker 1: because this is something as we get into August, as

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Speaker 1: we start getting feedback from our folks on the ground

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Speaker 1: in places like Ole, miss or Mississippi State, places like Athens.

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Speaker 1: I mean, when you start to get some whispers out

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Speaker 1: of camp, how is Jamie Newman messing or meshing rather

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Speaker 1: with that team that offense? How is Todd Monk a

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Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator there? How do they feel like their

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Speaker 1: install has gone. Do they feel comfortable enough with shifting

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Speaker 1: towards an approach that favors that side of the ball

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Speaker 1: even as they've lost spring, knowing they got a top

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Speaker 1: defense in the country. Is that really the style of

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Speaker 1: play they wanted Georgia this year? Is Kellen mond in

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Speaker 1: it feels like year ten under jimbo Fisher, although it's not.

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Speaker 2: Is he finally a guy that can turn the corner out? There?

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Speaker 2: Is Kyle Trask and this is where it seems more likely.

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Speaker 1: I mean, with all the uncertainty everywhere else is Kyle

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Speaker 1: Trask and Dan Mullen In year two? You saw what

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Speaker 1: they did with no weeks to prepare, and they still

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Speaker 1: transition their offense. Now they got a whole off season

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Speaker 1: to prepare, or do you have something crazy like Mike

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Speaker 1: Bobo coming into Columbia South Carolina. Does he all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden revolutionize South Carolina. It's a much taller task

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Speaker 1: I think there because of the relative relative roster inadequacies

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Speaker 1: in Columbia, maybe relative to a Florida or maybe relative

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Speaker 1: to a Georgia.

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Speaker 2: But still could happen. This is something to watch, folks.

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Speaker 1: This is something to watch big time because we're not

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Speaker 1: talking about competing here for a late.

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Speaker 2: December bowl game.

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Speaker 1: If we do have a normal bowl schedule, we're talking

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Speaker 1: about bona fide playoff contenders. If you get this stuff

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Speaker 1: figured out, and we're talking about some really upset fan

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Speaker 1: basis with high expectations if these folks don't get it

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Speaker 1: figured out, all right, some housekeeping.

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Speaker 2: We had a question, a couple of questions.

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Speaker 1: Now, Jeffrey asked this question, but I saw at least

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Speaker 1: two dozen of you ask this or a variation of

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Speaker 1: this question. This week, Jeffrey asked, why would you update

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Speaker 1: rankings with no new information on players? What Jeffrey's talking

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Speaker 1: about is we had rankings week. It was a rankings

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Speaker 1: update week for US at twenty four to seven sports,

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Speaker 1: So you had some players rise some players fall. You

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Speaker 1: are never going to have that without conspiracy theories there

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Speaker 1: for my team, there against my team. YadA, YadA, YadA.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how many evidence or how many pieces

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Speaker 1: of evidence you can present to the contrary.

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Speaker 2: But Jeffrey asks a basic question. Okay, Jeffrey's asking, if there.

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Speaker 1: Haven't been any practices and there haven't been any camps

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Speaker 1: and nothing's changed, there haven't been any games played, how

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Speaker 1: could you update rankings? Now? On the surface, this is

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Speaker 1: one of those you have to think it through to

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Speaker 1: a logical conclusion. Because on the surface, I understand this sentiment.

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Speaker 1: I understand it, So let me walk you through it.

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Speaker 1: I work here. I'm not on the rankings council. I

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Speaker 1: don't have a thing to do with these star rankings.

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Speaker 1: But I hear what you're saying, and I'm in a

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Speaker 1: unique position to all.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know we'd have bier Rolla Barton.

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Speaker 1: That's Steve Wilfonge. That's great, Colin.

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Speaker 2: Could you just give me this so I can watch

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Speaker 2: it at home in my spare time.

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Speaker 1: I want you to ask yourself this, Jeffrey, because I

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Speaker 1: have a pretty unique perspective here. I understand you, and

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Speaker 1: I have a unique perspective, and also being privy to this,

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Speaker 1: I sit in on some of their recruiting calls, these

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Speaker 1: things like hours. I mean, they take deep dives on

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Speaker 1: this stuff. So let me toss you a hypothetical that's

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Speaker 1: a reality, Jeffrey. Let's say that you owned twenty four

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Speaker 1: to seven. Or let's say you ran this recruiting rankings

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Speaker 1: council and COVID pops up and everything goes dormant.

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Speaker 2: But let's say that you took.

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Speaker 1: That time to beat the road, beat the pavement, and

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Speaker 1: you hit up your sources, and you hit up coaches

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Speaker 1: in a lot of cases, and so you start accumulating

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Speaker 1: new bits of information on players, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you also do deeper dives and deeper evaluations on players yourself.

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Speaker 1: And you started off where we got a different evaluation

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Speaker 1: on ten players. Now a combination of us getting more

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Speaker 1: feedback from coaches, our regional scouts have done their due diligence,

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Speaker 1: We've done our due diligence.

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Speaker 2: We got ten players.

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Speaker 1: Here that I mean, we could update them right now,

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Speaker 1: and then another week goes by and then you got

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Speaker 1: twenty four new evaluations that you really feel comfortable changing

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Speaker 1: and then you get more feedback, you do deeper dives,

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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I got forty players here

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Speaker 1: that I have a different evaluation on than I did

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Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, even though, as you would point

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Speaker 1: out accurately, nothing else has happened. There's a big difference

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Speaker 1: between no more games, no more camps, and no more information.

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Speaker 1: You can always collect more information. So let me ask

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Speaker 1: you something, Jeffrey. All of a sudden, you get a

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Speaker 1: few weeks in and you got one hundred to one

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty kids here who you feel very confident

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Speaker 1: you have enough new information on and new evaluations on

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Speaker 1: to change ratings.

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Speaker 2: What would you do?

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Speaker 1: Would you sit there with those new wheelbarrow fulls of

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Speaker 1: evaluations and wait until camps open back up? Of course,

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Speaker 1: not what you would do if you cared about running

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Speaker 1: a successful business is you'd do exactly what your calendar

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Speaker 1: told you to do, exactly what you always plan to do.

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Speaker 1: You would release those ratings. So that's what they did

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Speaker 1: at twenty four to seven this past week. That explains it.

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Speaker 1: That's why, that's the why you saw, the what I

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Speaker 1: gave you the why. I hope that sufficed a young

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Speaker 1: man who will go only by the name of Fits,

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Speaker 1: brings us our next question. This was in the rarely

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Speaker 1: visited but open Instagram DMS. Today. Young Fits was listening

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Speaker 1: to the Late Kick Extra podcast, and for those who

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Speaker 1: haven't listened, we release it every Wednesday. It is nothing

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Speaker 1: you I'll read those. But I told a story. We

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Speaker 1: talked college football on this, but we talk a lot

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Speaker 1: of other stuff too. I literally answer all of your questions.

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Speaker 1: You asked me for cooking advice. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: and noodle involved answering, but I'll give you an answer.

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Speaker 1: But I am a storm chaser too. I've chased storms

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Speaker 1: for over a decade. I have a storm chasing team

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Speaker 1: back home, so I've seen my fair share of tornatic

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Speaker 1: supercells been involved, and my fair share of those situations.

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Speaker 1: And I told a story because someone asked me how close.

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Speaker 1: I had been to a tornado, so I told a

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Speaker 1: story of the first tornado I ever saw.

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Speaker 2: Vividly remember it.

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Speaker 1: I was at Moultrie Park in Hamilton, Georgia, just off

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Speaker 1: Highway one sixteen there for those of you familiar with

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Speaker 1: the area, and I was coaching what I remembered to

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Speaker 1: be a little league team. Well, the only thing that

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Speaker 1: young Fits wanted to point out, because he played on

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Speaker 1: this team, is it was not a little league team,

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Speaker 1: you idiot. It was a Babe Ruth team, which consists

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Speaker 1: of thirteen and fourteen year olds instead of nine to twelves. Otherwise,

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Speaker 1: the story was accurate. He just wanted to point it out.

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Speaker 1: But what happened was our season was done. We were

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Speaker 1: up there taking team pictures. Hurricane Ivan had just come

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Speaker 1: on shore to the south of US, down on the

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Speaker 1: Gulf Coast, and it wasn't pouring rain at the moment,

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Speaker 1: so we were taking our team pictures. And the system's

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Speaker 1: moving through, and a lot of times you have brief

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Speaker 1: spin up tornadoes when a tropical system's moving through. And

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Speaker 1: sure enough, you got a wide open area. You can

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Speaker 1: see like two miles from where we're standing at this

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Speaker 1: particular point, and a tornado pops up right across Highway

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Speaker 1: one sixteen, just a little spin up tornado out of nowhere,

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Speaker 1: So we had to run. We had to run down

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Speaker 1: a mud soaked hill, and some people didn't make it

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Speaker 1: all the way down.

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Speaker 2: We had to hide in a dugout.

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Speaker 1: And that tornado e F zero tornado, but by far

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Speaker 1: as close as I had gotten to one ever, and

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Speaker 1: until last year, maintained its status as the closest I'd

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Speaker 1: ever gotten to one. Came right across the facility, tore

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Speaker 1: up some fencing, threw some trash cans all over the place,

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Speaker 1: but EF zero tornado.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 1: Fitz was quality control checking me in the podcast and

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Speaker 1: pointed out I was not a little leager. I was

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Speaker 1: in Babe Ruth, my friend. I was already out of

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Speaker 1: middle school by the time that happened. My apologies, Fetz,

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Speaker 1: and it was good to hear from you after like

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Speaker 1: nineteen years buddy today.

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Speaker 2: But man, what a day that was.

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Speaker 1: And if you want to hear the rest of that story,

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Speaker 1: you can listen to the lake Cake podcast.

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Speaker 2: I told like four other tornado stories.

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Speaker 1: It was really fun. You guys really want to get

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Speaker 1: me in trouble, You should ask me about train hopping.

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Speaker 1: Just a little hint, a little suggestion there. If you

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Speaker 1: really want to get me in trouble, we got to

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Speaker 1: get out of here. We've gone forty minutes tonight. I

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Speaker 1: think it's been a pretty good show. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: here Sunday night, same time, same Well there is no

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Speaker 1: other channel, so it's the same channel. So this is

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Speaker 1: the point of the show where instead of talking more,

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Speaker 1: I just shut up and tell you I'll see you

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Speaker 1: Sunday night. Thank you for watching. This has been the

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Speaker 1: late cake for Aaron, for Colin, for Tani. On the

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Speaker 1: podcast side, I'm Josh Batee. We'll see you back here

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Speaker 1: Sunday night.