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Speaker 1: Filtration, being exposed, and being held accountable. There's a reason

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Speaker 1: Well, what is this whole DC attorney thing about? What

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Speaker 1: my disappointment. Will you please explain what this DC attorney

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, Jesse, thank you to you to

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Speaker 2: No, I love it.

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Speaker 4: Well, Look, one thing is this, The pardon power is plenary.

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Speaker 1: twenty six Republican senators want to keep funding tranny frogs

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Speaker 1: in some random country.

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Speaker 5: Their donors, their political lifelines. This has been the real

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Speaker 5: pillar of the Republican Party since the early twentieth century

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Speaker 5: has been the Chamber of Commerce. Companies, the international multinational

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Speaker 5: companies that are technically domiciled here but depend on the

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Speaker 5: battering ram of the Pentagon, the State Department, and the

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Speaker 5: Central Intelligence Agency in order to preserve their markets, in

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Speaker 5: order to preserve their supply chains, in order to expand

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Speaker 5: their profit margins. And so this is why you had

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Speaker 5: this big USAID lobbying arm called the US Global Leadership Coalition,

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Speaker 5: which came together in the early nineteen nineties at the

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Speaker 5: end of the Cold War, when the Cold War was over,

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Speaker 5: so the American people were saying, hey, there's no need

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Speaker 5: for NATO anymore, there's no need for USAID or at

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Speaker 5: least as large a function. There's no need for all

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Speaker 5: these State Department grants because the Cold War is over.

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Speaker 5: We're supposed to be having a peace dividend. And it

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Speaker 5: was right at that time that's something called the US

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Speaker 5: Global Leadership Coalition formed, which is today sort of the

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Speaker 5: largest lobbying arm for USAID on the on the US Congress,

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Speaker 5: and they work with both sides of the political art aisle.

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Speaker 5: They're partnered with the US Chamber of commerce, and what

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Speaker 5: you see here are Republicans who are beholding to multinational

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Speaker 5: corporations rather than to the nation here, the United States

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Speaker 5: of America.

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Speaker 1: Mike, can you lay out exactly what kind and I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about amounts of donations we're talking about, and I

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Speaker 1: say it this way. Let me let me preface it

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Speaker 1: with this, It takes a ton of money to run

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Speaker 1: for United States Senate John corn and that loser, he's

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Speaker 1: going to run for Senate again next year in Texas.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be thirty forty million dollars. I realized

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Speaker 1: that's a lot of money, so that it must cost

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Speaker 1: a lot of money to buy United States Senator.

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Speaker 5: Right, Well, they're pretty cheap. Actually, if you there's some

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Speaker 5: great quotes I can't remember how how that. I don't

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Speaker 5: want to miss misquote them, but there's some great quotes

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Speaker 5: about how cheap it is to buy Congress. But the

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Speaker 5: fact is is, you know, there is a huge lobbying pot.

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Speaker 5: Everyone knows when they see, for example, military contractors or

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Speaker 5: big energy companies or big pharma companies who come in

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Speaker 5: and buy for example, the media sponsored by Pfizer. We

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Speaker 5: saw constantly during media hits on Fox News or MSNBC.

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Speaker 5: We see all these corporate interests are the same groups

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Speaker 5: that go in and provide the big lobbying base for

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Speaker 5: Congress as well. For example, even folks like George Soros,

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Speaker 5: who was the largest single donor to the Democrats. George

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Speaker 5: Soros runs massive hedge funds and private equity funds like

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Speaker 5: the famously the Quantum Fund where he really got his start,

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Speaker 5: and these invest in portfolio companies. For example, George Soros

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Speaker 5: invested in Halliburton, Dick Cheney's company for oil and gas refining.

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Speaker 5: What you see is there is this giant pot. The

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Speaker 5: maximum individual contribution is only a couple thousand dollars from

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Speaker 5: an individual, but if you have multinational corporations, they can

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Speaker 5: put millions of dollars into a super pac and that

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Speaker 5: money is thousands of times in order of magnitude of

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Speaker 5: what an individual can do in their individual capacity. And

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Speaker 5: so this is effectively what we see here. We saw

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Speaker 5: these multinational corporations clamor for more USAID funding because USAID

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Speaker 5: opens their markets for them. It's like a subsidy. It's

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Speaker 5: like a subsidized business. When we pay for transgender dance

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Speaker 5: festivals in Bangladesh in order to overthrow a government who

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Speaker 5: is placing caps on the amount of petroleum that they're

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Speaker 5: sharing with the US or preventing the installation of US

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Speaker 5: military base there because that country is cracking down on

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Speaker 5: the transgender population. Well, that ends up manifesting as a

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Speaker 5: back channel conversation between the petroleum and the military companies

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Speaker 5: with the Biden administration. The Biden administration then task groups

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Speaker 5: like IRI and the National down for Democracy and USAID

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Speaker 5: to then work with the transgender population. There fun transgender

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Speaker 5: dance festivals as well. You'll see this in USA spending

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Speaker 5: dot gov in the grant list, and then work with

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Speaker 5: them to mobilize street protests, to do demonstrations, to create

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Speaker 5: human rights violations predicates in order to oust that government.

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Speaker 5: That's exactly what we saw happen, for example in that country.

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Speaker 5: With the documents that I published originally came from the

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Speaker 5: Gray Zone in just write the the waning months of

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Speaker 5: the Biden administration that this is how this is, so

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Speaker 5: you can understand, this is to profit these multinational corporations

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Speaker 5: who represent the donor drafter overclass of the guts of

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Speaker 5: our government.

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Speaker 1: It's so ugly, So a lot of this what you're

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Speaker 1: saying is a lot of this international LGBTQ activism garbage

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Speaker 1: that is funded by USAID is actually about something else.

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Speaker 1: It's about money, It's about US influence, and we're funding

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Speaker 1: these things to destabilize governments who have angered US.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they don't give a flying fig about lgbt I mean,

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Speaker 5: there are some true believers, but they don't really represent

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Speaker 5: the senior class of the US State Department or the

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Speaker 5: US Intelligence community or the US Pentagon. It's very cynical

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Speaker 5: and self serving. Will they will immediately subsidize and pay

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Speaker 5: for the most extreme anti lgbt groups in the world.

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Speaker 5: When it suits their purpose. They will fund, for example,

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Speaker 5: the Taliban, they will fund Isis, they will fund Al Qaeda,

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Speaker 5: they will find I mean, this is what we saw

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Speaker 5: literally the US Institute of Peace doing this, and we

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Speaker 5: saw one hundred and twenty two million dollars or something

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Speaker 5: to that effect from USAID funding these groups who are

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Speaker 5: not exactly lgbtq's best friend. What you see. And same

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Speaker 5: thing with Nazism. You know, they talk all this stuff

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Speaker 5: about fascism and Nazism being the threats, and then they'll

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Speaker 5: turn around and fund the ash Off Battalion. If it's

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Speaker 5: geopolitically useful against the Russians and to seize control over

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Speaker 5: the energy market in Eurasia.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Ed Martin thing because

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Speaker 1: I was hot on this. I know you were hot

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Speaker 1: on this. What was it about Ed Martin? I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's US attorney. It's a big deal, but it's just

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Speaker 1: one area. What was it about Ed Martin that was

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Speaker 1: a bridge so far that GOP senators like Tom Tillis

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Speaker 1: would actually risk the wrath of Donald Trump to stop him.

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Speaker 2: Why.

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Speaker 5: Well, d C happens to be the home court jurisdiction

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Speaker 5: of the swamp. The fact is is the d C,

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Speaker 5: you know, the DC district courts are where all of

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Speaker 5: the Trump related litigation, as in terms of his government

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Speaker 5: policies are litigated. This is why the Chief Justice Boseburg

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Speaker 5: has become such a a villainous figure to the MAGA

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Speaker 5: policy implementation, is because the d C courts are where

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Speaker 5: d C executive orders and d C activity is litigated.

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Speaker 5: So if you are going to, for example, take on

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Speaker 5: Trump's executive order about opening the border wall, well that's

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Speaker 5: not going to be litigated in Arizona and Texas. That's

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Speaker 5: going to be litigated in d C. And the fact

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Speaker 5: is is therefore, who who is on the other side

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Speaker 5: presenting to the judge in these is extremely critical for

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Speaker 5: implementing Trump agenda. You need someone who is going to

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Speaker 5: represent to those justices a full and zealous case for

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Speaker 5: the government's position. And Ed Martin was a fighter through

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Speaker 5: and through. One of the things you know. Ed Martin

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Speaker 5: talked about the Transition Integrity Project just on Tucker Carlson

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Speaker 5: this week, and was hot on the entire Georgetown law

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Speaker 5: nexus and the domestic Color Revolution plotting that was being

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Speaker 5: done by Rosa Brooks and the whole cabal out of

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Speaker 5: Georgetown with Mary McCord. The fact is is these networks

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Speaker 5: are a check on trump Ism. And I think Tom

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Speaker 5: Tillis jumped on the grenade. But the fact is, as

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Speaker 5: you put on that list of twenty six other folks

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Speaker 5: in the US Congress, I think that there were several

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Speaker 5: other senators who were having back channel conversations with Tom

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Speaker 5: Tillis so that he would jump on the grenade and

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Speaker 5: they would be relatively clean. John Thune, the Senate majority leader,

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Speaker 5: could have removed and replaced Tom Tillis from the committee

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Speaker 5: in order to get a floor vote if he had

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Speaker 5: wanted to, but he did not want to do that

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Speaker 5: same thing we saw with others. John Cornyn initially, I believe,

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Speaker 5: was resistant to saying that he would support ed Martin.

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Speaker 5: And then once it became clear that Tom Tillis was

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Speaker 5: going to jump on the grenade and block it out

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Speaker 5: of the committee, John corn said, if it comes to

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Speaker 5: the floor, I'll vote on it. But you never saw

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Speaker 5: John Cornyn actually speak out against Tom Tillis's vote or

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Speaker 5: put pressure in order to change that vote. So I

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Speaker 5: think you have essentially this internationalist blob class of Republicans

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Speaker 5: who are it was actually jumped on. You allowed Tom

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Speaker 5: Tillis to be the fall guy for this, but they

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Speaker 5: all wanted that as well. They did not want someone

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Speaker 5: who was going to go after corruption at usaid, they

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Speaker 5: did not want someone who was going to go after

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Speaker 5: the bipartisan corrupt elements of the swamp. Because again even

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Speaker 5: something of the Transition Integrity Project, that domestic Color Revolution

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Speaker 5: coup simulator where they literally simulated invoking a breakdown on

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Speaker 5: January sixth, and then having Black Lives Matter serve as

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Speaker 5: paramilitary street muscle, as if we were funding some coast

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Speaker 5: of ar paramilitary group in order to fight the Slovana

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Speaker 5: Melosovich in Serbian the nineteen nineties. These were the analogies

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Speaker 5: that they were giving that we would effectively fund anti

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Speaker 5: fund Black Lives Matter right after the George Floyd riots.

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Speaker 5: It just happened. They were still playing out when they

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Speaker 5: were doing these simulations. And this all serves as a

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Speaker 5: check on trump Ism, which is what these international republicans want.

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Speaker 5: They want to get back in the Nicky Haley box.

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Speaker 5: They want to get back on the George hw Bush,

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Speaker 5: the George Bush, the John McCain, Mitt Romney, Nicky Hayley box.

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Speaker 5: They want to go back to coke and pepsi in

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Speaker 5: terms of your only choices as a US voter, and

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Speaker 5: all these aspects of bipartisan approved corruption that Trump is

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Speaker 5: trying to clean up. They don't want that cleaned. And

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Speaker 5: so they want someone in there who is not as aggressive,

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Speaker 5: who is not as tuned in, And so they got

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Speaker 5: rid of be Ed Martin.

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Speaker 1: Mike Well, I could go on and on and on

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Speaker 1: with you about this, but I want to make sure

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Speaker 1: we talk about this angle of it. I do the

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Speaker 1: best I can not to make myself sound like a

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Speaker 1: complete quack but when I look at the two assassination

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Speaker 1: attempts of Donald Trump, and I look at the circumstances

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Speaker 1: around it, particularly the quick destruction of evidence on the

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Speaker 1: first assassination attempt, from spraying off the roof to cremating the.

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Speaker 2: Body right away. Mike, I'll just come right out and

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Speaker 2: say it.

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Speaker 1: I believe elements inside of the United States government were

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Speaker 1: involved in the attempted assassination of the Republican nominee for

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Speaker 1: President of the United States of America. You're welcome to

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Speaker 1: hang up right away if you think I'm a nutball,

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Speaker 1: But does that sound crazy to you?

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Speaker 5: It doesn't sound crazy to me. I think that that

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Speaker 5: is a very considerable probability. The fact is is all

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Speaker 5: it would take is advance knowledge and allowing it to happen.

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Speaker 5: It would not take necessarily recruiting people to do it,

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Speaker 5: if they simply had advanced knowledge from informants or from

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Speaker 5: surveillance that these attacks are going to play out. All

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Speaker 5: it would take would be somebody inside the Biden DHS

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Speaker 5: or Biden FBI or Biden Justice Department or Biden CIA

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Speaker 5: to say, hmm, we've been tipped off about this. Let's

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Speaker 5: let's sit on this one and then simply have a

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Speaker 5: few backchannel conversations, keep it tight hold. But the fact is,

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Speaker 5: as I think that we've talked about, both of these

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Speaker 5: shooters ran right through aspects of federal law enforcement and

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Speaker 5: Biden admin intelligence worlds. On the law enforcement side, was

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Speaker 5: reported by I believe the New York Post that Matthew

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Speaker 5: Thomas Crooks was training at the very same gun range

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Speaker 5: as dhs HSI DHSHSI, who was actively recruiting and infiltrating

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Speaker 5: Trump group Trump movement groups during January sixth. There's the

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Speaker 5: famous case of Jeremy Brown from the Oathkeepers to dhs

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Speaker 5: HSI agents arrived at his home about a month before

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Speaker 5: January sixth and actively recruited him, threatened him that if

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Speaker 5: he did not, as a Green Beret, join up with

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Speaker 5: join up with HSI and become an informant, that he

653
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Speaker 5: could have problems, but those problems would go away and

654
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Speaker 5: he might be able to make some money from it

655
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Speaker 5: if he became an informant HSI. We later learned from Congress,

656
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Speaker 5: or at least testimony was published in a Congressional letter

657
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Speaker 5: on this that HSI agents reportedly replaced almost half of

658
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Speaker 5: the Secret Service agents at the Butler Rally, we're told

659
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Speaker 5: because Secret Service had a diminished force because they were

660
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Speaker 5: split between the NATO summit and a Jill Biden trip.

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Speaker 5: So HSI is training at the Matthew Thomas Crooks gun range.

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Speaker 5: All that would have taken is for them to see

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Speaker 5: this Matthew Thomas Crooks guy putting a Trump face, for example,

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Speaker 5: on a Trump bullet or talking to guys at the

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Speaker 5: gun range, and then you've got an HSI connection there.

666
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Speaker 5: HSI would have been in position to allow the shot

667
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Speaker 5: to go through to the extent that they replaced Secret

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Speaker 5: Service agents that day. So this whole thing could have

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Speaker 5: been in house with four or five people simply allowing

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Speaker 5: it to happen. On Ryan Routh caase it's even crazier.

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Speaker 5: Ryan Routh was a part of a five oh one

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Speaker 5: C three Ukraine nonprofit network, the exact nonprofit network that

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Speaker 5: is such a big part of the USAID presence in Ukraine.

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Speaker 5: It was called the Volunteer Center of Ukraine. That he

675
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Speaker 5: gave his card to Customs and Border Patrol in twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty three that he was the director of. They've denied that,

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Speaker 5: but it was on his business card that he handed

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Speaker 5: to Customs and Border Patrol. Customs and Border Patrol then

679
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Speaker 5: referred an investigation on Ryan Routh in twenty twenty three

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Speaker 5: to dhs HSI and according to Customs and Border Patrol,

681
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Speaker 5: DHSHSI quote refused to investigate, not declined, refused to investigate

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Speaker 5: Ryan Routh. Now, Ryan Routh at the time was recruiting thousands,

683
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Speaker 5: at least five thousand by his own numbers, of terrorist

684
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Speaker 5: and extremist militia fighters from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, and Iran.

685
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Speaker 5: Now all four of those are highly CIA inflected geopolitical

686
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Speaker 5: conflict zones with intense US military and intelligence pressure and

687
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 5: infiltration of various militant networks there. And he was trawling

688
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Speaker 5: WhatsApp and telegram to get the front and back of

689
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Speaker 5: over five thousand passports of jihadi fighters in order to

690
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Speaker 5: back channel with the US Embassy in Kiev the ability

691
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Speaker 5: to provide an increased military support for the US Pentagon

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Speaker 5: in Ukraine. So that these fighters who who the CIA

693
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Speaker 5: was backing when they were called the Mujahadeen in the

694
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Speaker 5: nineteen seventies and eighties, now they're al Qaeda and Isis.

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Speaker 5: So that they just just as they fought the Russians

696
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Speaker 5: during the Cold War, they would come back and fight

697
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Speaker 5: the Russians in Ukraine just as they were bombing the

698
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Speaker 5: Russians were told when Isis claimed responsibility for the attack

699
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Speaker 5: inside of Russia just last year that killed one hundred

700
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Speaker 5: and thirty five people at a Saint Petersburg theater. So

701
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Speaker 5: the fact is this is a CIA network, this is

702
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Speaker 5: a Pentagon network. This was flagged at DHS and they

703
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 5: did nothing. And you know, this guy is a part

704
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Speaker 5: of a sort of usaight adjacent five oh one C

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Speaker 5: three in Ukraine. I mean, it's like every single every

706
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Speaker 5: single object on the pinball machine of the US intelligence state.

707
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Speaker 5: This guy just went bing bing bing bing bing through

708
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Speaker 5: the whole thing for years and then he ends up

709
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Speaker 5: being the guy who's parked behind a bush at the

710
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Speaker 5: Trump golf course, you know, to take a clean shot

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Speaker 5: on the US President.

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Speaker 1: Good Mike, I have to ask you before I let

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Speaker 1: you go. I know, it's a lot, it's a tight

714
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Speaker 1: knot to untied.

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Speaker 2: It's going to take time. I get that.

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Speaker 1: Do you think we're going to be able to untie

717
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Speaker 1: at least a chunk of this during Trump's four years

718
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 1: with guys like Ed Martin now in place. Do you

719
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Speaker 1: think we have a chance at getting some of this

720
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Speaker 1: not just exposed but accounted for.

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Speaker 5: Some of it and a lot of it is personnelist policy.

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Speaker 5: The fact that, for example, Pam Bondi has fired fifteen

723
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Speaker 5: of the j six prosecutors, the fact that we have

724
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 5: fired something like fourteen thousand folks at USAID, the fact

725
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 5: that these funding grants are going to force a diminished

726
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,160
Speaker 5: capacity at the end stitutional level of many aspects of

727
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Speaker 5: the blob if they go through. That's going to be

728
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Speaker 5: the question. This is why during the period between inauguration,

729
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 5: between election and inauguration, I kept stressing this concept of

730
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Speaker 5: the Senate snake in it, which was my belief that

731
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 5: the Senate would end up snaking the president, and that

732
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Speaker 5: much of White House strategy has to be geared towards

733
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Speaker 5: coalition building within those internationalist sides of the Republican blob,

734
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Speaker 5: because as I saw it, the biggest threat was the

735
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Speaker 5: Republican side of the aisle, not the Democrat one. You

736
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Speaker 5: have the votes with a Republican held House and Senate.

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Speaker 2: The issue is the.

738
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Speaker 5: Bush era, McCain era Nicky Hayley adjacent side of the GOP.

739
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Speaker 5: But that is going to be something that would be

740
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Speaker 5: continually negotiated. There's much more leverage now than there was

741
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Speaker 5: during the Paul Ryan speakership when there were almost no

742
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Speaker 5: Trump allies in Congress. Now, I would say somewhere between

743
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 5: fifty and seventy percent of the Republican Congress is more

744
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 5: or less fully behind Trump. But the fact is is

745
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 5: twenty five to thirty percent of the Republicans is enough

746
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 5: to form a coalition with the Democrats in order to

747
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Speaker 5: get their way on the budget, to get their way

748
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Speaker 5: on funding cuts. But you know, there's a lot of

749
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Speaker 5: tools in the toolkit, and I think that this admin

750
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Speaker 5: is serious about deploying as many as is necessary.

751
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Speaker 1: I said that was the last question, but I lied, Mike.

752
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: I just had to ask really quickly, do you believe

753
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Speaker 1: there are Republicans because I definitely believe this that are

754
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: just flat out blackmailed. I'm talking Netflix special blackmailed.

755
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: Someone has something on them.

756
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Speaker 1: Look, when I hear ken Buck who's retiring from Congress,

757
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: he's retired.

758
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 2: Now when I hear.

759
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Speaker 1: Him who's about to retire, lovingly practically make out with

760
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Speaker 1: Christopher Ray during a hearing where Christopher Ray is supposed

761
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Speaker 1: to be held accountable. Honestly, I've listened to that clip

762
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: a thousand times. Mike, I hear somebody who has a

763
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Speaker 1: file on them.

764
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Speaker 5: It's possible. I think that you can explain the exact

765
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 5: same set of facts, though in a I don't want

766
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 5: to say more benign because in a way it's it's

767
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 5: even more insidious, which is the simple economics of Congress.

768
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Speaker 5: You don't make a lot of money in Congress. I'm

769
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 5: actually not against significantly raising the pay of Congress because

770
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 5: I think the relatively low paid you have all of

771
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 5: this power, and you're around people with so much money,

772
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,760
Speaker 5: and you see yourself and you can't even afford private

773
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 5: school for your kids. While you are making these you know,

774
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 5: you're hobnobbing constantly all day with everyone who can. Everyone

775
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 5: else is a you know, a relatively secure financial life,

776
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Speaker 5: and here you are putting everything on the line if

777
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Speaker 5: you're a bold member of Congress or you want to

778
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 5: do serious reform, and you know that the moment you leave,

779
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 5: you're already you know, not making a particularly high salary

780
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Speaker 5: given your influence and given the pressure on you. But

781
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 5: then on top of that, when you get out, what

782
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 5: are you going to do? For a job when you,

783
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Speaker 5: you know, have invested all of this in your career

784
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 5: and you've got no, you know, significant financial prospects unless

785
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 5: you convert that into something with the donor class. The

786
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 5: fact is is, I actually think that the relatively low

787
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 5: salary of Congress makes it so that it doesn't even

788
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 5: require blackmail. It simply requires financial incentives. You are incentivized

789
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Speaker 5: to do what Raytheon and Lockheed Martin and Pfizer and

790
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 5: you known name your company if it's if it's in

791
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 5: the censorship space, what Google and Microsoft or Meta want

792
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,399
Speaker 5: you to do. What the telecom companies want you to do.

793
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 5: You become, as Joe Biden put it himself when he

794
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 5: was running for Senate at twenty nine years old, he

795
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 5: called himself a prostitute. That he had to prostitute himself

796
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 5: out to the credit card companies in Delaware. He had

797
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 5: to prostitute himself out as the poorest person in Congress.

798
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Speaker 5: And I think that you see this, and so simply

799
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 5: being economically beholden to your donors is to get you

800
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 5: to be pliant as a doormat, especially when these things

801
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 5: are morally justified by your allies and the media, and

802
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 5: so it doesn't weigh on your consciousness heavily. But the

803
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 5: fact is is, I think those money networks have a

804
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 5: sufficient explanatory power, but I would not be surprised if

805
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 5: there were elements of blackmail and coercion as well.

806
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Speaker 1: Mike, as always, you're the best brother. Come back soon, please.

807
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Speaker 1: All right, we have final thoughts. It's going to say

808
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: light in the mood, but there's nothing light about this.

809
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: Let's do some final thoughts next. How'd you sleep last night? Good?

810
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 4: Bad?

811
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: Is that a consistent thing for you? Or is sleep

812
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: a struggle? Listen, Sleep's a struggle for people.

813
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 2: I know you.

814
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: Look, there's a million pharmaceuticals you can get. Doctor will

815
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 1: prescribe you something. Hey, take this, she'll put you to sleep.

816
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: Or walk in any pharmacy over the counter stuff there.

817
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: You take this to sleep, Take this to sleep. What

818
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: do all those things have in common?

819
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 2: You've tried them. What do they have in common? You'll sleep?

820
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: When you wake up you feel like garbage every single time.

821
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: The only thing I've ever taken in my life to

822
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: sleep that had me waking up feeling rested and refreshed

823
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: is dream powder from Beam.

824
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 2: It's the only thing I've ever had. It's a cup

825
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: of hot chocolate.

826
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,399
Speaker 1: Delicious hot chocolate, mind you, but it's got a bunch

827
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Speaker 1: of natural things. And that's really the difference, isn't it.

828
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: It's natural sleep in a way. Go to shopbeam dot

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Speaker 1: com slash Jesse Kelly and try it. Shotbeam dot com

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00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 1: slash Jesse Kelly. All Right, so I'm gonna say something

831
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Speaker 1: that'd probably.

832
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Speaker 2: Make you mad.

833
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: It's gonna make me mad as we finish things up here.

834
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Speaker 1: It does take time. It takes time to take apart

835
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: any criminal organization. You don't snap your fingers and make

836
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: it happen. If you're going after the Gambino crime family,

837
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get indictments next week.

838
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: You're not. Takes time.

839
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Speaker 1: When the criminal organization is the United States government, it's

840
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: going to take us time. That doesn't mean be patient,

841
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: just means understand it's going to take time. But as

842
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: you heard Ed Martin say earlier in the show, demand

843
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: they go faster, even when sometimes you understand why.

844
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Speaker 2: They're not going faster.

845
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:36,919
Speaker 1: Still whip them all the time, faster, more arrests. That's

846
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: what we demand. Stay on them, you can save the country.

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Speaker 2: We'll do it again.