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Speaker 1: You still got Chris Brown over Usha, What of course

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Speaker 1: pause that too? I don't like that.

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Speaker 2: All my life, grinning all my life, sacrifice, hustle, Pricing,

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Speaker 2: won slice, got the Brons all my life.

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Speaker 3: I be grinding all.

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Speaker 2: My life, all my life, grunning all my life, sacrifice, hustle,

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Speaker 2: paed Price, one slice, Doctor bronc geiswash all my life.

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Speaker 2: I've been grinding all my life.

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Speaker 4: Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Sha Shay. I

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Speaker 4: am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propriet of

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Speaker 4: Club Sha Sha. Stopping by for conversation and to drink today.

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Speaker 4: He sold over one hundred million records and has billions

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Speaker 4: of streams. He's an award winning, highly sought after super producer,

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Speaker 4: a Grammy Award winning songwriter, a multi platinum selling rapper,

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Speaker 4: a creative anthems, a chart topic artist, an industry battery,

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Speaker 4: a multi talented musician, versatile star, and an executive extraordinary.

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Speaker 4: He's gone Diamond, an artist and a producer, a pivotal

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Speaker 4: figure in shaping today's music scene with soundtracks of our lives.

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Speaker 3: He has the Midas touched here. He is ladies and

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Speaker 3: gentlemen hit maker. What's up? Broke to see you bad.

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Speaker 3: Thank you man, thank y'all you doing. Man, I'm blessed man,

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Speaker 3: thanks for having me.

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Speaker 4: So I always ask my guests this, when you hear

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Speaker 4: the accolades that that I read off in such a

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Speaker 4: short time, what goes through your mind?

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Speaker 1: Well, when I first heard it, I was like, damn,

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Speaker 1: I sold two hundred and fifty million, right.

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Speaker 3: Went through my mind.

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Speaker 1: But man, just the journey, man, I think that a

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Speaker 1: lot of people skip over the journey and don't really

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Speaker 1: appreciate the journey. And I'm gonna be honest at times,

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Speaker 1: I did it myself because when you show boots on

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Speaker 1: the ground and just going and going and going, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna take time to reflect. And man, shit, look at

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Speaker 1: me now that I ain't all them accolades. I ain't

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Speaker 1: got no kids, no wife, no nothing. So shit, it's

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Speaker 1: time to figure it out.

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Speaker 4: Well, let's go ahead to that's coming. I mean, you've

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Speaker 4: had all the success you mentioned, two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 4: million album a record, so all the billions of billions streams,

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Speaker 4: and now because you got caught up, so caught up

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Speaker 4: in it, and people that get caught up in their careers,

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Speaker 4: they understand exactly what you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: So my brother, you know what you think I've been

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Speaker 3: waiting to get that smooth Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's booth.

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Speaker 4: You're from Chicago, Yeah, what is it about Chicago?

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Speaker 3: Waman? It's so many of you guys from Chicago.

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Speaker 1: I think it's because like the environment, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, it kind of builds you to be like

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Speaker 1: tough and then deeper than that. For me, it's just

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Speaker 1: more so like we didn't have a way out. People

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Speaker 1: like I'm older now, so I'm about to be forty.

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Speaker 1: So hey, everybody else, like the younger guys, they don't

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Speaker 1: see it like that because it's the chief Keys, the

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Speaker 1: little Dirks, the jee herbos, whatever. But when I was

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Speaker 1: coming out, it was literally common Twister, do it Dye, psychodrama,

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Speaker 1: crucial conflict and Kanye.

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Speaker 3: That was it.

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Speaker 1: So it was like you didn't have an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: be like man, Like if I was in New York,

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Speaker 1: I would sit outside the Depth Jam Building twenty four

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Speaker 1: and shit like that like that ain't wasn't really the opportunity.

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Speaker 1: So I just think the music. It's a real musical

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Speaker 1: You know really yeah, Okay, So, like the music is

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Speaker 3: What do you think has been the key to your longevity?

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Speaker 3: The work?

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Speaker 1: Like I love the work, bro Like I don't like

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Speaker 1: producers that I work with in situations. But I hate partying.

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Speaker 1: I hate phony kicking it. I'm not really like I

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Speaker 3: But I'm just so dead. If I f with you,

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Speaker 3: I f with you. If I don't, ain't no sisters,

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Speaker 3: A yeah, ain't none of that because.

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Speaker 1: When you in it so long, you see the same

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Speaker 1: they were shipping, no you you see them now you up,

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Speaker 3: Them again in a tune change a little bit.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, I I be searching for authenticity, but

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Speaker 4: Because I had T paint on and T paint say, Bro,

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Speaker 4: ain't nobody in this business your brother? They your brother

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Speaker 4: as long as they can use you or get you

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Speaker 4: I had to learn the hard way. And you said

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Speaker 4: have time for hit maker. Now I'm up. Now boy,

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Speaker 4: you be dropping a beat. You're like, nah, I'm good cut.

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Speaker 1: Yeah see, I just think that, man, Like it's two

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Speaker 1: ways to look at that, Like because I get older

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Speaker 1: And then with them learning that like they supposed to

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Speaker 1: use me though, because I provide a service, correct, But

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Speaker 1: when you use lissen you can't.

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Speaker 3: We used it. I ain't gonna you know what.

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Speaker 4: I heard somebody told I forget who it was was

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Speaker 4: at least I forget. How it'll come back to me.

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Speaker 4: But they said something very similar is that being used.

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Speaker 4: At least I had a service to provide exactly. So

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Speaker 4: if you can't, you can't use somebody that don't have

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Speaker 3: Provide what you're doing. Ain't nothing happening.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned g Herbal and g Herb I had him

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Speaker 4: time getting an opportunity because I you know, here like

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Speaker 4: when I get an opportunity to sit down and talk

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Speaker 4: you start to you know, after thirty minutes, after an hour,

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Speaker 3: Like who that person really is? Right?

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Speaker 4: And I had a sense, and I was like, man,

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Speaker 4: this is this is a good brother. Obviously he came

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Speaker 4: up in some times then he had to do some

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Speaker 4: things that I'm sure he's not proud of, but I

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Speaker 3: And I heard him the other day.

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Speaker 4: He said that, you know, someone tried to trick him

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Speaker 4: I'm too smart for that, bro, I'm way way way

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Speaker 4: gag bang or whatever the case may be. But why

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Speaker 4: is it that when we see somebody that came from

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Speaker 3: It's cribs and a barrel mentality.

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Speaker 1: But brother, you know what I'm saying, Like, I think

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Speaker 1: that it's such a cloud driven error right now, Like

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, for lack of better word, black people

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Speaker 1: are like, no, no hate on it that's why that's

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Speaker 1: But it ain't as viole volatilist shade room or ball

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Speaker 1: I just think that look, and I'm sure we're gonna

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Speaker 1: He's one of the great ones. And I think that

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Speaker 1: Nicki Minaj when he came and did that shyrack song

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Speaker 1: in La for Nicki.

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Speaker 3: So Man, I love her.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: That's a little brother.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people. See, I don't just make beats, shan,

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Speaker 1: Because Vaughan is in the era of reality rap. So

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Man, I was moving different, So I was around the streets.

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Speaker 3: But you had to be true to whatever you were.

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Speaker 4: He was really whatever he talked, whatever he wrapped about.

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Speaker 4: You you blessed caps in the studio, a whax. You

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Speaker 1: That messed me up too, though, cause you got to

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Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, I think the thing is that a

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Speaker 4: But you know what my grandma used to say, Boy,

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Speaker 3: We can see it from a distance, but you like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm starting to learn as I get older. Man

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Speaker 4: So if I think about something and doing something, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, we gotta, we gotta, we gotta

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Speaker 4: You worked with Kanye early in his career? What was

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Speaker 3: Like? Man?

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Speaker 4: Did you see did you see working him with him

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Speaker 1: So Kanye West used to live on ninety fifth Street

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Speaker 1: Jesus Walks. The Kanye song was on my demo because

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Speaker 1: me signed at the age of thirteen to DMX. I

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Speaker 1: a kid rapper. It was jay Z DMX. Every company

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Speaker 1: He was already a legend before you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: like he was doing jay Z beats. Jay Z was

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Speaker 1: you know to us, we know where jay Z is.

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Speaker 1: For him to be where we're from and doing jay

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Speaker 4: Wow, So what do you think the biggest difference is

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Speaker 3: Now are you a billion? Nohe different paper? Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: It's only a few handful of people, and I know

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Speaker 1: He can make his own decisions. But at the same token,

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Speaker 4: It's addictive, it's addictive, it's intoxicating too, and kind of

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Speaker 1: And that's what I'm fighting with my therapist about right now.

436
00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,280
Speaker 1: She like, when is it gonna ever be enough?

437
00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,600
Speaker 3: I get the same thing. I'm like, I don't know,

438
00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:53,760
Speaker 3: But I don't know what I would do if I

439
00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,680
Speaker 3: didn't work? What would I do? Well?

440
00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,760
Speaker 4: I mean what I mean what I mean to go

441
00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,240
Speaker 4: travel and to go do all this stuff for what?

442
00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,720
Speaker 1: Shannon, My dad's seventy six years old right now. Right

443
00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:09,119
Speaker 1: the man own like fifteen three flat apartment buildings in Chicago.

444
00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,880
Speaker 1: The man still get up and go to them buildings

445
00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,000
Speaker 1: every day, check on his tenants, do all the shit.

446
00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,119
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, brother, we multimillionaires. He's a millionaire. I'm

447
00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,160
Speaker 1: a millionaire. Why don't we hire somebody to do that?

448
00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,800
Speaker 1: But he won't tell me. But something me tell me

449
00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:27,360
Speaker 1: that when you start working, you did so. I look

450
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,480
Speaker 1: at him like he's crazy, like yo, like bo you

451
00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:30,240
Speaker 1: thene retired?

452
00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,400
Speaker 3: You done with all this shit? Let's sell them buildings.

453
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,679
Speaker 1: Let's get you a house in Miami, somewhere close to

454
00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,720
Speaker 1: me to where I can hire like a little fine nurse.

455
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,600
Speaker 4: Your house can't take it coming through getting you good,

456
00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,919
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But at the same token,

457
00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,600
Speaker 4: he won't leave. No, he won't do it. What do

458
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:47,600
Speaker 4: you think about Kanye recently? I think he told you

459
00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,719
Speaker 4: out in the Wall Street Journal or New York Times

460
00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,560
Speaker 4: where he apologized to the Black community. He apologized to

461
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,680
Speaker 4: the Jewish community for us, some of his rhetoric are

462
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,239
Speaker 4: realizing and he's made it like he's dealt with some

463
00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:01,639
Speaker 4: things in the past. And I'm not here to make

464
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,640
Speaker 4: excuse for Kanye. Kanye is a grown man and his apology,

465
00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:09,320
Speaker 4: his letter, his editory to speak for itself. But what

466
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:10,720
Speaker 4: do you what do you make of that?

467
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,399
Speaker 1: I think this the best apology he's done throughout this

468
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 1: whole time, because it was like it wasn't apology based

469
00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,159
Speaker 1: off like man, I want your acceptance back. It was

470
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,240
Speaker 1: just more so like a statement like yo, like I'm

471
00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 1: working on myself. I'm accountable for what I did. Yes,

472
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 1: I know, And it's the first time he said he

473
00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,679
Speaker 1: was except with black people. Yeah, so that you know,

474
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta know, like either the PR team

475
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 1: and ramped up, or somebody unteen, somebody a black lady

476
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 1: running his PR right now. Or he's very genuine about

477
00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,360
Speaker 1: what he really feels. And I think that that him

478
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 1: being genuine would be the best thing because the man

479
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 1: catalog and just what he needs to us. Not you

480
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,959
Speaker 1: ain't even gotta be a rapper or a musician or nothing,

481
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 1: but he. You can't talk about life in our generation

482
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 1: of what it is without Kanye West being mentioned.

483
00:20:57,760 --> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you look at what he's done since

484
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,359
Speaker 4: he just scene in the early two thousand to what

485
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:06,200
Speaker 4: he is now, and not only just what he's done,

486
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 4: what he's been on other people and helped them do.

487
00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 3: Right.

488
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 1: You know what I think Kanye wed it started going

489
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 1: bad at and Yay, I love you John Monopoly all

490
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 1: y'all don't take me no way when I say this.

491
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 1: I think that when he went up there and took

492
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 1: that award from Taylor's with for Beyonce, no matter how

493
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: much Haney he was on or how drunk he was,

494
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,199
Speaker 1: he was doing it for the right reason. Yes, he

495
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 1: like Yo, I'm an advocate for music. Let's be clear,

496
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 1: Beyonce had the best shit smoking right now and now

497
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 1: we letting the politics change, and I think he was

498
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 1: stone for that, and he might not have been supported

499
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 1: the way he thought he was going to be supported.

500
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: I lie when he said, George Bush don't like black people. Yeah,

501
00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 1: he thought the outpour of the support was gonna come

502
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,160
Speaker 1: the same way. And once he didn't receive that support

503
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: and he got shamed for it, and he like, I

504
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 1: did this shit for somebody else. This ain't even my

505
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,440
Speaker 1: hell the exactly. It wasn't like I lost Album of

506
00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: the Year.

507
00:21:59,040 --> 00:21:59,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

508
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 4: I stood on the table for someone else, for the culture,

509
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 4: really though, and this is what the things that I get.

510
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 3: And I agree with you.

511
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,199
Speaker 4: I think that he thought he was gonna get more

512
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 4: support than what he got. But even if he had

513
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 4: gotten the support, the support on the other side was

514
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 4: far too great because they controlled all the award. They

515
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 4: can control everything, and so you got to, you know,

516
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 4: at some point in time, you kind of have to

517
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,120
Speaker 4: play the game within the game.

518
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 3: Exactly.

519
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 4: I'm doing my own thing, but you understand how this

520
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,919
Speaker 4: machine works. When you play Miss pac Man, you know

521
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 4: how to get to the end. Yeah, for sure, there's

522
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,679
Speaker 4: a pattern that you have to follow. And everybody like

523
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 4: I do my own thing, bro. I get you do

524
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 4: your own thing, but it's kind of hard when you

525
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 4: don't own everything that you own. So you might say, well,

526
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 4: I own a business, but do you produce everything that

527
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 4: you own? Do you sell everything to yourself that you

528
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 4: own so you need other people involved? And then when

529
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 4: they shut that power off, you just own something that

530
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 4: you don't have anybody to sell it too.

531
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Speaker 1: I think it's a fine line between handling your business

532
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: and selling out. Yes, and everybody is trying to walk

533
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: that type rope. You absolutely, yo, So like I'm trying

534
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 1: to tell the truth, but hey, I ain't trying to

535
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: get I get this shit bigger than me, you know

536
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

537
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:21,719
Speaker 3: Than bigger. Everybody going down this motherfucker, I go down, Yo.

538
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 4: Crap A sports figure Dad Rose hometown, he wrote, just

539
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,480
Speaker 4: had his number retired by the Bulls.

540
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 3: What what does the roads mean to the city of Chicago.

541
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: I think he up there with Kanye for real, for real,

542
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: like because he from the city. Like we love Jordan.

543
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 1: Everybody loved Jordan. He the greatest all time. This man

544
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: really went to seme on. He really was at them

545
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: schools to where we could go see him. Like he

546
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 1: was really a part of what was happening. And then

547
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: to do that, and then to get the drafted by

548
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 1: the Bulls. Then how your number retired by the Bulls?

549
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: Like I don't know if it and he in the

550
00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame or he on the way.

551
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 4: They're the possibility he's on the way. But I mean

552
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 4: to have your jersey retired by your hometown team, a

553
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 4: team that I'm sure you grew up watching, because look,

554
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 4: everybody was a Jordian. You Chicago, you're Jordan Fayan Facts,

555
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 4: You're Jordan Facts. It's simple as that. And to and

556
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 4: to select Damn and Dee Rose.

557
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 3: Man.

558
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 4: I remember when Dee Rose when he went to Simeon

559
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 4: and man, he won the state and he did this

560
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 4: and he did that.

561
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 3: Man, now he on the Bulls and now he got

562
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 3: his jersey retired. Dreams come true.

563
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 4: There's a for Chicago, just for Chicago. He's up there

564
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 4: with Jordan. He might be bigger than Jordan just for

565
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 4: the city of Chicago.

566
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: I think so because he actually from Chicago.

567
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 3: Correct, Mike.

568
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,199
Speaker 1: Wait, see, is Mike from New York or is he

569
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: from North Carolina?

570
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 3: He was born in New York. It's kind of like me.

571
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 4: I was born in Chicago, but I grew I grew

572
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 4: up in Georgia.

573
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 3: That's why I'm with you, man, what's going on?

574
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 4: Man? I knew something was going on that in Yack Man,

575
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 4: what's up? Everybody from Chicago? Like, yeah, yeah they do.

576
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 4: That's that's some good stuff. That's premium. The neighborhood, right,

577
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 4: I read that Seanna from the DDP was from your

578
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 4: neighborhood in Chicago.

579
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 3: How did she help your music? Bro?

580
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: So damn when I fell in love with the music, right,

581
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: her brother his name was is Ice Drake, and then

582
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: she was signed. She had to deal with Relativity first,

583
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 1: and she had her she had like a group I

584
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 1: forge infamous syndicate. It was her and a girl named

585
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 1: Tifa and as you know, or maybe you not know,

586
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 1: Buddy Got is her daddy.

587
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 4: Oh yes, so that's how you so okay, okay.

588
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 3: So we living in the Center playing the guitar and

589
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 3: doing the movie exactly.

590
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 1: So we in the suburbs were doing whatever, and like

591
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: she's my next door name, but like two houses down.

592
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 1: So music was flowing through their household and my brother

593
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: was like rapping and they were all like friends. Because

594
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: Shawna's probably like ten years older than me too. So

595
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: they were all friends and they were all like making music,

596
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: and it was really inspiring for me to see because

597
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 1: like it let me know that, Yo, this is possible.

598
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 1: But I was really bad and I want to know

599
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: about music. Boy, they did me dirty. They used to

600
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: lock me up in the cross space. They used to

601
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: do you know what I'm saying, do all the shit

602
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 1: to a little brother that you know she was supposed

603
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: to do. But I was able to be around those

604
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 1: early beginnings and see how she did that thing, and

605
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: then not only that, further down the line when we

606
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: got more closer in my career evolved. Before I got

607
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: on this young berg, she put me on her album.

608
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: I produced on her album as well, and it was

609
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: just like she's a big sister to me, like in

610
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: every shape of the word for real.

611
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 4: So music, from as long as you can remember, you've

612
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 4: been around music, Yeah, for sure, it's been the only

613
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 4: thing that you really wanted to do.

614
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 3: Her. I ain't got nothing else to do but this,

615
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 3: no sports, no hold.

616
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: On my man here, like I gotta jail on your nice. Yeah,

617
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: I got a shot. I ain't gonna be doing a

618
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: run and then sweating and all that that stuff, but

619
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: we want to shoot for some money. I'm the guy

620
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: that you call. But in reality, man, I played basketball

621
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 1: a little bit. But Sharon, you see I got He's

622
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 1: my product platform. So I'm about five seven, so I

623
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: knew I wasn't going nowhere with that, and music just

624
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: became my life, just totally. I got my first record

625
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: deal at thirteen. Wow, I dropped out of school in

626
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 1: eighth grade.

627
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 3: Hold on, So when you dropped out of school, so

628
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 3: what did you tell your parents?

629
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 4: Considering as financially stable as they are, I'm sure education

630
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 4: was a big key. Hey A, we want you to

631
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,439
Speaker 4: get an education, we want you to go off, we

632
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 4: want a potentially hand the businesses down to you. And

633
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 4: so when you tell your parents Mom, Dad, I ain't

634
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 4: going to school tomorrow. As a matter of fact, I

635
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 4: ain't going to school no more.

636
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: Right So at that point, Shannon, so like, my life

637
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: is really like a movie, Like I'm really gonna break

638
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,360
Speaker 1: this shit down, but it's a movie. Like my parents

639
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: that they're up boom normal shit. They get a divorce

640
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: right now. As me being a young kid, I think

641
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 1: my mom like progressed faster than my dad's life. So

642
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: she started dating and going doing whatever her one too.

643
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 1: I hated that I was the worst kid ever, Like

644
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: we in the suburbs, like my mom getting a kiss

645
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: from her then she she married, ended up marrying this guy.

646
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: But like I'm at the top of the bananster throwing

647
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: shit at them.

648
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 3: Like I'm wilding out you like my daddy, why you

649
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 3: kissing him? Exactly.

650
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: So at that point I became so much of a

651
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: problem child that I moved in with my father.

652
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 3: Like boys in the hood.

653
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, so I went and lived my dad, and

654
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 4: he like, I'm the king, you the prince.

655
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 3: That's what we're doing.

656
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: But my dad, as I told you, he owns a

657
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: lot of property and apartment buildings in real estate. So

658
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: we went and moved into one of his buildings and

659
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 1: he my mom ended up getting the house and the

660
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: divorce and all that other stuff. So my dad raised

661
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: me from a real young man. But now we were

662
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: in a city now, no more suburbs, right, so now

663
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: I'm close to the bullshit I was dah so me

664
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: going to school, Like he couldn't control that I would

665
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: go get on a bus.

666
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 3: He can't. I was supposed to be going to school.

667
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 3: I went. I was actually made it.

668
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I put the uniform on and go

669
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: to school. That don't mean and I did go to school.

670
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: But you know what I did, Shanna. You know lunch

671
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: started at fourth period. I go in that motherfucker for

672
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: freshman lunch, sophomore lunch, senior lunch.

673
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 3: Damn over your lunch.

674
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: I'm in that boom boom rapping. You know what I'm saying,

675
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: doing what we do. I ain't never go to school.

676
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie.

677
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: I remember one time, and I ain't proud to say that.

678
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 3: Some kids go to school. Do what you gotta do, right.

679
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: I was getting like straight f's the whole time. F

680
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: F f F I remember I got d's one time,

681
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: they got me Jordan's.

682
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 3: Hold up, you got and your parents got you Jordan's.

683
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 4: That's how much I wouldn't go tobos.

684
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: You can't get no good here and getting these yo

685
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 3: I'm talking about. I got rewarded for the d's. Damn.

686
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 4: Now you know your graves got to be bad and

687
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 4: you get rewarded for these. I'm straight f's. I'm talking

688
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 4: about all f's. They're like, well this is improvement to George.

689
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 3: Go exactly.

690
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 4: When your mother and father got a divorce. Did you

691
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 4: feel some sort of resentment because you saying that when

692
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 4: you saw her being with the guy, the gentleman that

693
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 4: she ended up marrying, you felt some type of way.

694
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 4: Did you have a resentment towards your mom for the divorce?

695
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 4: Did you blame anybody in that situation? I think it

696
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 4: was do you know why your parents got a divorce?

697
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 3: Uh?

698
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: You know they tell you older when you're older or

699
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: whatever you in a moment, but man, like, how get

700
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: this interview and I'm gonna tell the truth of this

701
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: whole saying, So, look, it was a lot of things

702
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: going on now that I'm older, and I see men

703
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: and women relationships or whatever between however manipulation goes, and

704
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: then you have a kid.

705
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 3: And a process of all that.

706
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: I understand what was going on and when my parents

707
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: was at the time, but I wasn't really able to

708
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: really truly accept it at all. And that started to

709
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: split between me and my mom. Like so, like I

710
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,479
Speaker 1: told you meet, my dad raised me so like I

711
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: was doing music and my dad was supportive of me

712
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: doing music.

713
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 3: My mom not so much supportive. So like, man, like I'm.

714
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: Gonna give you a realty like man, like my mom

715
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: got he locked up, put me in jail, mad time, all.

716
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 3: Type of shit you call the folk.

717
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: Yes, bro, I'll never forget right, so damn we kind

718
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: of speeding up. But like my mom I was, I was.

719
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: I got my deal with DMX, right, I signed the

720
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: DMX and like I'm up there in New York. He

721
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: moves me to Edgewater, New Jersey. I'm living in Edgewater

722
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: and one of my friends at the time he had

723
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: a gun and he came in the house and like

724
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: we was all playing with the gun and we double

725
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: cock the gun. So the gun go off in my apartment. Boom,

726
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: it go through the floor, go through all types of

727
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: shit or whatever. I'm living in a townhouse, so now

728
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: the police and everything is going crazy. I go back

729
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: to Chicago and I'm around a bunch of street guys.

730
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: It's why I got a record deal. This why I'm

731
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: working on music. And my mom was like, I'm not

732
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: really close with my mom, but she wanted to see me.

733
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: She was sending me two way messages on the like

734
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: the silver skottail page of the time she come picked

735
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: me up. She's like, yoa, I want to take you

736
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: get some food before you go back to New Jersey.

737
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, I'm really trying to do that. I

738
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: want to go shopping. I'm gonna buy some clothes whatever.

739
00:31:58,560 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: Take me to the mall and we can go get

740
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: food too. If I had money, though, I had a

741
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: record deal, so I'll buy my own shit. So while

742
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: we get to the mall, she's like getting all these

743
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 1: mysterious phone calls, like I'm gonna be parked by the

744
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: Walgreens on the north entrance of this, this, this, and I'm like,

745
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: who you talking to? And she like, no, it's my

746
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: new husband. He's gonna meet us up here, this, that

747
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: and the third, so and the mall. I come out

748
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: the mall. My mom got a BMW at the time.

749
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: Two big samoans outside of the BMW, and they like, hey, Chris,

750
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: how you doing.

751
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 3: What's going on? I'm like I'm good. You know.

752
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: By that time, I had a song on DMX soundtrack

753
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: Exit Wounds with his movie with Steven Sagar.

754
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 3: They like, we hear you do music, this, that and

755
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 3: the third or whatever.

756
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah. My mom like, Chris, you gotta go

757
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: to school. She jumping a beamer press the trunk and

758
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: then the samoans. Get the bags out of the trunk.

759
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: Now I'm fighting with two big samoans in the middle

760
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: of Evergreen Plaza. That's a mall on the south side. However,

761
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: I'm fighting with them or whatever. They throw me down,

762
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: put the plastic cuffs on me. Now they put me

763
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: in a car. So now I'm riding through Chicago, getting downtown.

764
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is this school?

765
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 3: Look? Where are we going? Gets to the airport.

766
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: So now we're at ohair So like they escorting me through,

767
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: trying to walk me through, get me the ticket or whatever.

768
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: It's a black lady at TSA. She's like, why are

769
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: you hold that young man like that? I'm like, I

770
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 1: don't know him. I snatched away from him. I'm running

771
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: through the airport. I take off, running through the airport. Man,

772
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: I ran to a dead end gang. I ain't gonna lie.

773
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 1: So they come get me, put me on one plane

774
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: in Vegas. They like, we can't tell you what's going on. Well,

775
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: we ain't gonna let you know what's going on. They

776
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: give me a letter my mom wrote and once we

777
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: got to Vegas and then basically said she signed away

778
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: all her parental rights.

779
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: To me to this school to this in the state.

780
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 1: So they shipped me to Thompson School YEP and Thompson Falls, Montana.

781
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 3: And like this shit is on Netflix right now.

782
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: They got documentaries about this same school, like they was

783
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: raping people, beating people up, they was taking advantage of kids.

784
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: Like so I go there. I'm a recording artist at

785
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: the time. You can't look at girls. They start you

786
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: off at level one zero nothing. You can't have salt

787
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: and pepper, you can't talk on the phone nobody. I

788
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: was cut off from the world. I ain't know nine

789
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,719
Speaker 1: to eleven happened. I ain't know nothing that bad. At

790
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: the place in Thompson Falls, Montana, they shipped me to

791
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: a place called high Impack in Jamaica to where it

792
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: was no child safety law.

793
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 3: I think a beat of the up.

794
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: I had to walk one hundred laps with one hundred

795
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: pound brick on my back just to get back to

796
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: Thompson Falls, Montana. And that's how I lost my record

797
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: deal with DMX when I was signing them or whatever.

798
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: And it just stripped me at everything, Like I never

799
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,479
Speaker 1: I ain't know a Lea died, so I'm super close

800
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: with I was close with the Lea from DMX and

801
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: just all this other stuff and like me and my mom,

802
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: you know, like shit, like me and my mom ain't

803
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: really close to this day right now.

804
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 4: How could your mom? How could your mom slide away

805
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 4: your rights and your dad? Oh see that go back

806
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 4: to what we were talking about.

807
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: Why I wasn't going to school cause I wasn't paying

808
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: atition my dad that nigga blowing up my phone. I'm well,

809
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 1: I'm in the studio. I'm doing my own thing. He said,

810
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: you took the keys away from me. He said, Yo,

811
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm trying to stand up for you. I'm trying to

812
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 1: vouch for you, trying to tell your mother and I,

813
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: let's not go this this option. Let's not take this route.

814
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: And once I stopped communicating with him, it left George.

815
00:34:58,840 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 1: His back was against the wall.

816
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 4: Had your mother not intervened and sent you there and

817
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 4: I know the relationship and we'll talk about this a

818
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 4: little later, had your mother not did what she'd done,

819
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 4: Are we having this conversation today?

820
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 3: I doubt it.

821
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: I was like, I was really a bad kid on

822
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: a bad path, and like, even though at the moment

823
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: and it didn't feel good, but looking back in hindsight,

824
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: like it might have saved my life and might have

825
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: put me in a different position to where I could

826
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: even be having this interview with you now, But the wounds.

827
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 3: So deep on that level.

828
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: With that as the story, we keep going or whatever,

829
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you know some more shit that it

830
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: went on, or whatever.

831
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 3: And then you understanding dynamic as.

832
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 4: Someone as a child whose parents divorced, how do kids?

833
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 4: What would you tell kids if you had a room

834
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 4: full of kids, you speaking the three hundred four hundred

835
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 4: kids and they're going through a very similar situation, parents divorced.

836
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,280
Speaker 1: What would you tell these kids? Love your parents, parents.

837
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: They're not perfect, they just humans and you'll realize it later.

838
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: And that's what people told me, But you never really

839
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: look at it like that. In that moment, it's like

840
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: I want my mom, I want my dad, I want this.

841
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 3: Because you had that, you had.

842
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 4: It was never a situation where I stay with my

843
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 4: dad and then I go on the weekends with my

844
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 4: mom and holidays. One holiday, Thanksgiving, I'm with dad, Christmas,

845
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 4: I'm with mom. This or that birthday with dad, next

846
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 4: birthday with mom. You had two parents in home doing

847
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 4: extremely extremely well, and then all of a sudden that

848
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 4: get ripped apart. Do you think that had an impact

849
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 4: on why you chose what's going down the path that

850
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 4: you go or you had already started that path even

851
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 4: when they were both in the home.

852
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 1: I think it had an impact on it because, like

853
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: I told you, it put me in a different environment.

854
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 1: I was living in the suburbs, like we were living

855
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: like the literally the ideal suburban life going to you

856
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 1: were the Cleavers exactly. But then when they broke up,

857
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: my dad took it back to the hood and it's

858
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: like we in the hood, like you know what I'm saying.

859
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: So my experiences, I wouldn't have been around those, I

860
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been able to meet Kanye West, wouldn't have

861
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: been able to do all the different things, meet my partner,

862
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: bugs who my mentor, and who's.

863
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 4: The theoretically was a blessing in disguise. Yeah, bro, the journey,

864
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:12,800
Speaker 4: that's what we were talking about.

865
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 3: The journey.

866
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 4: Is this situation between your mom and your dad? Is

867
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 4: that what makes you skeptical marriage? Well, I don't trust women.

868
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 3: Come on, man, I'm sure you've had.

869
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 4: Some relationship in your life where the woman has been

870
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 4: everything that she thought that you thought she would be and.

871
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: More I'm damaged, good Shannon, Oh see, you gotta understand it, right,

872
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: I've lived it on different levels. Right, So I've been

873
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 1: the rapper, or that I've watched women do bad things

874
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: to their friends or to get to me. Then I've

875
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: seen it from the other end too. Then, not only that,

876
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: I think nobody tells the truth about this is that

877
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: and this is what I want to tell. I would

878
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 1: like to tell kids like people to get this man.

879
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: When you grinding, man, maybe try and lock in with

880
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: some early yes, because you know she really there for me?

881
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, all is grinding.

882
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: And then you meeting me and I'm picking you up

883
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: in a Lamborghini or a Ferrari or a rose Ary Spectra,

884
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: You're always gonna be skeptical about who really is there

885
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: for you at not. So it's just I'm just damaged,

886
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Now, I do got some

887
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: women in my life. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not

888
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: gonna hold back on them or whatever. But I think

889
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: I really genuine people. But at the same token, now

890
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,400
Speaker 1: it's just so messed up. Is that I have no

891
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: regard for adapting to someone else's plan. I'm the masculine man.

892
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm not in the leadership position. So it's really like, yo,

893
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: this is what I'm doing. If it worked for you

894
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: and you want to be involved with it, great, If

895
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: it don't, being shit, let's just be the best of France.

896
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: And that's just where I'm at with it right now.

897
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 4: Well, have you found anyone to understands the sacrifice what

898
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 4: it takes for someone in your position to stay in

899
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,720
Speaker 4: your position or even climb even higher? Do they understand?

900
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 4: So when you tell it, because everybody says I can

901
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 4: be number two until they were really forced to be

902
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 4: number two. Correct, Like my career is number one. I'm

903
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 4: always gonna be in the studio. I gotta do X,

904
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 4: Y and Z. We're gonna go on vacation. We're gonna

905
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 4: go out and get us a nice meal. We're gonna

906
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 4: do all that. But I just want you to know,

907
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 4: somebody call and say they need a beat next week,

908
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 4: I'm dropping everything to go hit this beat.

909
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 3: You know they ain't gonna never understand, like, well I

910
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 3: think that.

911
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: See, Look, this is what my hope is, right, Okay,

912
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: So I am optimistic about things that's going on or whatever,

913
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: and I think that when you really take it that way,

914
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: and when you in a position, and you in a

915
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: successful position, I think that the woman that you end

916
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: up either marrying or being with has to be understanding

917
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 1: your lifestyle and also maybe has to be a part

918
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: of what you're doing your business in some type of capacity.

919
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying to where she feels included

920
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: in what's going on, because I mean, I mean, I

921
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: ain't work this hard for somebody else to tell me

922
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: what to do, shining, I don't care what you know

923
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: what I'm saying going on, I don't care how you

924
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: feel nothing. I ain't worked this hard for you to

925
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: receive the amenities that come along with being with me,

926
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: for your feelings to dictate what I got to do

927
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: with my life.

928
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 4: Do you think it's possible now to find a woman

929
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 4: to love you through all these scars?

930
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 3: Yeah? Because I got money.

931
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 4: But she ain't loving you becauseing fu little cars. You

932
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 4: love you because of the money, the accents that you

933
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 4: give her. I'm talking about somebody that if Lord, don't

934
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 4: let this happen. But if you were not had all

935
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 4: this money, if all of a sudden, now you're you're

936
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 4: you're an average guy making seventy five to one hundred

937
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 4: thousand a year.

938
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 3: Will she still be there where she still love you?

939
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 2: No?

940
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 3: What were we doing with seventy five thousand dollars.

941
00:40:54,640 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: Live in hopeful that pre appost Texas which they could

942
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: post taxes. I mean, nah, don't nobody don't want to

943
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 1: stop chanting you. I don't know if you in tune

944
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: because you are all in and you work a lot.

945
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 3: Yes, I do.

946
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: But you can see these young girls, it's young girls

947
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: getting on streams that are streamers now that's saying that

948
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: they don't want a man that don't make.

949
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 4: Over a million dollars a year. They're talking about five

950
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 4: twenty twenty years old. Do they understand how few people

951
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 4: in the world make ten million dollars a year. Nope,

952
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 4: they don't because when you say, okay, I want a

953
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 4: man that's let's say, over six foot tall, you're talking

954
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 4: about probably less than eight percent of the population. Well,

955
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 4: I want a man that's educated, got at least a

956
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,439
Speaker 4: master's degree, maybe a secondary degree. You shrink it even more.

957
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 4: I want a man to make ten million. Now you're

958
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 4: talking about half a percent. So you want a man

959
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 4: that's six over six foot tall, that's educated, that's well versed,

960
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 4: that likes to travel, makes ten million dollars a year.

961
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 4: Now that man, with all those attributes that you want,

962
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 4: I don't want you.

963
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 3: Number.

964
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: I want all of y'all. And that's what they don't understand.

965
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: They all fishing for the same dude.

966
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 3: Yes, And the.

967
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: Sick part about it is that, like I respect the

968
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: women that actually go get bread theyself and that are

969
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: successful theyself, but they don't want to invest in too, know,

970
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: man that don't got as much as them. So on

971
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: a flip side of things, that's what has come to

972
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: for us in the position that we are, like we

973
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: gotta blindly just trust that a woman really likes us

974
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: and that.

975
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 3: We don't care.

976
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: Man, when I meet a woman, I don't care if

977
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: she she ain't gotta have nothing. True, we gon Las

978
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: Vegas Boulevard right now, Wake up a homeless woman off

979
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 1: the street. I can go take her to Miami, put

980
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: the ass on it. Yeah, she'll love me for life,

981
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: but you really change that life. Yeah, But then you

982
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,280
Speaker 1: got the other woman that think that that's the entitlement

983
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: that come with it because she used to dealing with

984
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: a lot of successful men, but they never wife her. Right,

985
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: it was only temporary. Yes, like a lot of the

986
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: successful men got some women that's respectfully not as beautiful

987
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: as the women that as they side pieces, but they

988
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: more thorough and they at home and they know where

989
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: they lost he lie.

990
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 3: Wow, it's uh, I read somebody. Somebody said that. I

991
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 3: heard it.

992
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 4: They say men want to accumulate money to take care

993
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 4: of others. Women want to accumulate money to become independent. True,

994
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 4: it's sad, but it's true because we're women. Women will

995
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 4: say I'm not changing who I am. I'm blah blah blah.

996
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 4: Men says, I love you, I'll change mm hm see.

997
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: But the thing is, though men us as men, we

998
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: be lying to when we ready to change, we put

999
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: we gotta put the fine print, like I'm ana change

1000
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: when I'm ready to change. So if you're gonna wait

1001
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: it out, yeah, or you ain't. And that's really what

1002
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: the reality of this whole situation is. But I'm trying

1003
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: to find a balance because it's like man Shannon be

1004
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: living in an eight bedroom house, Dolo, I ain't got

1005
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: no dogs.

1006
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 3: That's no. You got the dog, Yeah, I got the dog. Yeah.

1007
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: It's that's why it's kind of you know when when

1008
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: my most depressing part of my life is the holidays,

1009
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 1: when everything's shut down and don't nobody want to work

1010
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: no more in the studio.

1011
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 3: I gotta give grace to all my staff and got kids.

1012
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: Now you just sit at the phone looking at matching

1013
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: pajamas and all this other.

1014
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 3: Cry you sitting a drinking egg nog.

1015
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: But Janeway first at New Year's Eve, they back outside,

1016
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 1: we back to work.

1017
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:30,799
Speaker 3: So is it a.

1018
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 4: You can be alone and not be lonely, You can

1019
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 4: be lonely and not be alone true, or.

1020
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 3: You can be alone and still be lonely and still

1021
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 3: be lonely.

1022
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I think for a large portion of my life,

1023
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: I was like, man, why don't I just like I

1024
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: could just be Eddie Murphy from Boomerang, a new girl

1025
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 1: with me every other day of the week, do whatever

1026
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm doing. But that's still also that's hard for work too, Yes,

1027
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: it's also draining. It's a lot of different personalities that

1028
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: you gotta juggle all that other stuff. Like I'm just like,

1029
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm just at a point in my life where it

1030
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: ain't like, man, I do want kids, don't lie.

1031
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta get it. You better get to get this.

1032
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 4: But the thing is, but here you don't wait at

1033
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 4: this long, man, don't have I mean, be with that woman, That's.

1034
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 3: What I'm saying.

1035
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 4: I mean, be be with her, Be with her because

1036
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 4: of all things being equal. Yeah, I have three kids

1037
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 4: and there beautiful. They're all graduates. My youngest daughter is

1038
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 4: in residency as a doctor. But if I could do

1039
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 4: anything over again, I would have all my kids from

1040
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 4: one woman.

1041
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 3: That's why. That's what Really. I love my kids and

1042
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 3: they're great.

1043
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 4: They've never given me any problem and thankfully, knock on

1044
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 4: what none of them have my personality. Yeah, but but

1045
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 4: I would that would That's what I would do. But

1046
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 4: that's what I would tell you at one one woman,

1047
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 4: one woman.

1048
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 3: Yo.

1049
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: Have you noticed that like people are getting crazier and

1050
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: crazier as a progress?

1051
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1052
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: Probably, Like it's these phones, Like it's just the thought process.

1053
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 3: You know what it is. It's the street committee, it's

1054
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 3: the internet.

1055
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 4: Because when I was growing up and probably until you know,

1056
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 4: the late two twenty ten's early you know, there was

1057
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 4: there wasn't no internet, there was no social media. We

1058
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 4: get so caught up into trying to please living our

1059
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 4: life for someone else. I mean, I mean really. When

1060
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 4: I get on the internet, I'm like, Damn, I'm broke.

1061
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 4: I see women with all these earth man's bags and

1062
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 4: all these shoes, and they on private planes and they

1063
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 4: got g wagons and they got range rollers and they

1064
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 4: got I was like, well, damn, my life sucks.

1065
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 3: Fomo.

1066
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: That's what they sell into these girls, man, fear of

1067
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: missing out. But in reality, like them, we know what

1068
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 1: them them the type of girls. So yeah, so you

1069
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: basically I should go get like some weak shit right,

1070
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 1: like a cool like six seven, get.

1071
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 4: Your solid gets a solid, solid, solid seven with some

1072
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 4: good yeah, and and and handle.

1073
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 3: It like that.

1074
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 4: Them the one probably more babies, but them, the one

1075
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 4: that probably got they got a lot of They got

1076
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 4: a lot of tread on the top.

1077
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 3: Man. You know the boy you go up to eight

1078
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 3: nine teens, it.

1079
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: Don't be as good as that that that med you

1080
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,240
Speaker 1: can get some good mid I'm talking dancing.

1081
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 3: You're gonna get You're gonna get me in trouble man,

1082
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: man too, let's get off the women. Yeah.

1083
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 4: So after your parents divorced, your mom ends up getting

1084
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 4: the home, your your dad ends up moving moving into

1085
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 4: one of the apartments in the city. So now where

1086
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 4: you was having to, you know, get get back.

1087
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 3: To the city. You're in the city, You're right there,

1088
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 3: smack down. Is that kind of when you kind.

1089
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: Of just like, yeah, I wasn't getting no crack in

1090
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: the suburbs. It was like it made it made like okay,

1091
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: So if I'm trying to appease to all these differs,

1092
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get a record deal that the goal

1093
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: at that time was to get signed by Jay Z,

1094
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: A Dmax or somebody in that rough riders and these

1095
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: type of lanes. So I'm talking about I was Pablo

1096
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: Escoball on my raps at thirteen. I got bricks and

1097
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: this and that, and I wasn't talking about I was

1098
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 1: like bad bow Wow. Me and bow Wow had beef

1099
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 1: at the time when we first got out I first

1100
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: got a record deal. I was bad bow Wow right,

1101
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: and he was bow Wow. He had Mickey Mouse chain.

1102
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't known that, Like I had guns and Mickey Mouth.

1103
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I'm shooting at Mickey Mouse.

1104
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: I'm doing all type of shit like that. So it

1105
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: really was like I had to be authentic to In

1106
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,439
Speaker 1: my mind, I thought I had to be But now

1107
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: that I'm older, right now. I know that it was

1108
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: all bullshit, but it just it was. It was authenticity,

1109
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: and I think it bled through the music when I

1110
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: was actually doing it. When you actually taking them risks,

1111
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: when you actually living like that, it adds a little

1112
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: edge to you.

1113
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 3: It as and.

1114
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: Only that the guys that I got these that my

1115
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: deal with, and that that that took me these places

1116
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: to get Seebody's people.

1117
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 3: They were the biggest drug dealers in Chicago. Damn yeah.

1118
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: Like these these guys like they had it all and

1119
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: like we had a building on hoisted seventy second and

1120
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: hausted that the guy had owned and they transitioned into

1121
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: a music studio. So that's why I also didn't go

1122
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: home too, because he had a studio with the baby.

1123
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,879
Speaker 3: And I'm talking about like they lay their thing out

1124
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 3: for me. Now, mind you.

1125
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: Back then, Shannon, I was young. I was talking about

1126
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: selling crack. I ain't even got no pussy yet. I

1127
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 1: was a straight virgin, I ain't went through puberty yet.

1128
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: I'm talking bald Eagle.

1129
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 4: I mean you you you selling drugs and that's the

1130
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 4: whole party here supposed to have the women.

1131
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: Bro Listen, let me tell you the crazy shit I

1132
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: lost my virginity to h to two prostitutes.

1133
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 3: Damn. So like I'm around these these guys.

1134
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 4: Well they hooked you up. See, they had you there,

1135
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 4: they would do a supper sault on you. You like,

1136
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 4: it's like this all the time.

1137
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: I never forget it. One of the girl there was

1138
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 1: it was Strawberry, and damn, I forget the other girl name.

1139
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 3: And I ain't gonna lie. They threw me in a room.

1140
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: It reminds me of like like little Wayne, how you

1141
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: say you lost in Virginia? You said, bird Man. It

1142
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,640
Speaker 1: was like, hey, go sect little Wayne Dick. Just sit

1143
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 1: the old one.

1144
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 3: Man.

1145
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,239
Speaker 1: I was leading like fourteen girls, had to be like

1146
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven, And they sent them

1147
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: in there, and they went and had they way with me.

1148
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 3: You ain't you ain't you ain't trying to stop him

1149
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 3: doing Hell no, Why you think I ain't want to

1150
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 3: go home? Boy? What were smoking?

1151
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 4: Weed?

1152
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 3: We drinking? These girls taking advantage of me. Man, I'm

1153
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 3: thinking I'm living a lot. I'm a rapper. I'm a

1154
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 3: real rapper.

1155
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 4: Right, So you're like, oh, so this way I'm drugs, alcohol, women,

1156
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 4: just the tripecta.

1157
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 2: I hit it.

1158
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, I started off with smoking, drinking. I think

1159
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: I was drinking and smoking by eleven d I think

1160
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: I took my first ecstasy pill at thirteen. Like we

1161
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: this Chicago, you edit like that, like this is just normal.

1162
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 1: This is a normal light. Like so when you see

1163
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: like a g herbo and like how we talking about

1164
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: boor this shit normal? Like this's overly normal for what's

1165
00:50:58,880 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: going on in the city, for real?

1166
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:00,399
Speaker 3: For real?

1167
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 4: Did the streets give you an attention that your parents

1168
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 4: mom dad didn't give you because it seemed like your

1169
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 4: dad tried to give you everything that he wanted. He

1170
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 4: did everything that you wanted. Your dad tried to give it.

1171
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 4: But that was just like you said, you had a

1172
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 4: trust fund, your dad had buildings, your mom was gainfully employed.

1173
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 3: You had everything. There was no reason for you to dart.

1174
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 4: Down the path, although it turned out very well for

1175
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,919
Speaker 4: you to go down the path that you went down.

1176
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 3: Was it attention that you were seeking?

1177
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 4: What was it about the street that called you that

1178
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 4: got its hooks in you and you just couldn't shake

1179
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 4: until you got older. The streets came with the music,

1180
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 4: so it was always the music. Music was number one.

1181
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: The streets just came with the music, because the funding

1182
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: for the music came for the streets. So it was

1183
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: just a part of just it was just one hand

1184
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: washed the other type of situation. So I wasn't searching

1185
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 1: for attention from the streets. I was searching for validation

1186
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: for how good I knew I was. I'm really him,

1187
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm one of them. I'm better than bow wow, I'm

1188
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: bad bow Wow. That was like my whole little scheme

1189
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: at that moment.

1190
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 4: You mentioned that your mom basically had you kidnapped and

1191
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 4: sent to a boarding school. Correct, and you go to

1192
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 4: this school. So what's what's a typical daylight at the school?

1193
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 4: At the school?

1194
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 3: Boom? You wake up at what time? Try like six?

1195
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 4: Uh?

1196
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: You freshen up, hit the workout, go eat breakfast, now

1197
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: breakfast depending on what level you at, where your how.

1198
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 3: Your breakfast look?

1199
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: If you at level one, is it that old meal

1200
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 1: at one board egg and gone about your way.

1201
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 3: That's it. That's it.

1202
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,479
Speaker 1: No sugar in the old meal, no butter, no brown sugar,

1203
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: no nothing.

1204
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,879
Speaker 4: Just the lumped up and an egg. That's level one

1205
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 4: and water water did you give milk or water?

1206
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 3: Level three?

1207
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, that motherfucker jazzed up raisins, walnuts, motherfucker brown sugar,

1208
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: the whole. You get that on pepper for your egg

1209
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: or whatever, and you get that boom. Then you go

1210
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: to school. So mind you you in school, say you

1211
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 1: catting off in school and you messing up in school,

1212
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: they send you to this place called workshets. Worksheets is

1213
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: like detention for the school. So you gotta go in there,

1214
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: sit on a wooden plank or whatever like, and just

1215
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: sit there and just stare at the wall for five hours.

1216
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 1: If your head move in the slightest form from that shit, violation,

1217
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: five more hours. So you keep sitting there. So now

1218
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 1: you act up in there, they send you to this

1219
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: shit called the Hobbit. The Hobbit different. The Hobbit is

1220
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: like a hotel for some bullshit, Like you're gonna stay there.

1221
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: You don't even go back to your own camp or whatever.

1222
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: They send you to the Hobbit. That's what your meals

1223
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: is in the Hobbit, So boom.

1224
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 3: It's literally a wooden board with some carpet on top

1225
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 3: of it. That's your bed.

1226
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: Your breakfast is a piece of bread and a slice

1227
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: of cheese.

1228
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 3: Your lunch is ollo a piece of bread and slice

1229
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 3: of cheese. Minds.

1230
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: You your parents paying five thousand dollars per month for

1231
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: you to be in this program, like maybe ten. I

1232
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: think it was like ten. They spent my whole advance

1233
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: for me to be in this program, like for them

1234
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: people to come kidnap me or whatever. I think that

1235
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: shit called like seventy five hundred for them to wake bro.

1236
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: They got a shit on Netflix. It's a whole documentary

1237
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 1: about this shit, like niggas come wake you up out

1238
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: your sleep and just come kidnap you out your house.

1239
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: So boom you in a Hobbit lunch. It's a Lima

1240
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: bean burrito. So it's just a tore tier with lima

1241
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: beans inside of it. It ain't no meat or nothing.

1242
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: Nah and dinner you go back to that slice of

1243
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 1: bread in that cheese. Now you act up at the Hobbit,

1244
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: that's when they ship your as in Jamaica. And that's

1245
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 1: how I went. That was my that was how my

1246
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 1: state was. Damn you were you were you were? You

1247
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: was only one I was. I was signed. I was

1248
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: an artist. Like look this how the mind games they

1249
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: played with you right now. No, you're the artist outside

1250
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: of there. You're not an artist in there. Yeah, I

1251
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: was an inmate there, like, I ain't gonna lie like

1252
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: that shit was worse than juvenile hall like and all

1253
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: the other shit.

1254
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 4: Like I went to Jevie, it was worse than juvee.

1255
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 4: They play mind games with you in that showy.

1256
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: And look while you in there, they telling you how

1257
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: much of a piece of shit you are for the

1258
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: shit you did, And then why your parents got you

1259
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: in there? They got seminars happening that your parents fly

1260
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: to to where they go. They got other parents that

1261
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: got success stories or that they got in pocket.

1262
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,799
Speaker 3: To say, no, that's the best thing for your kid.

1263
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 3: This is the successful.

1264
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 4: Meanwhile, they up there raping, stay up there doing all

1265
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 4: type of shit.

1266
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 3: It's just a sick, sick place, bro.

1267
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 4: So they telling what but they ain't nobody telling your

1268
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 4: parents about the hard stories that your kids are doing them.

1269
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 3: They just tell them the great side of it, Bro.

1270
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: They think that we walk in holding hands coombayon all

1271
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: this other shit in there killing themselves game.

1272
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 4: Wow, you signed the DMX what thirteen fourteen? How did

1273
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 4: that situation happen?

1274
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 3: Wow?

1275
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: So damn this is a crazy story. So at that time,

1276
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: like I told you, I had the street dudes that

1277
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 1: was taking care of everything or whatever.

1278
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 3: We go to la.

1279
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: A a trunk of the little the King Vaughan Entourage

1280
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: of us. It's twenty of us, twenty five of us,

1281
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 1: all street dudes. So we go out there and there's

1282
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: a guy, his name was Joe Exclusive.

1283
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 3: He a gay guy.

1284
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,719
Speaker 1: He is a stylist that this dude named d One,

1285
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: who was a part of the label, had connects with

1286
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,399
Speaker 1: so him being a stylist, he was at a bunch

1287
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 1: of different places. So we got invited to what these

1288
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: want from a video shoot for DMX. So we go

1289
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: to the Paramount Loud.

1290
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,720
Speaker 3: I'm there vibing.

1291
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie at that time. I'm like four

1292
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: foot four Shannon, Like, you know what I'm saying. Like

1293
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: I told you, I ain't went through puberty yet. I

1294
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: had all the bricks. I ain't went through putty yet, Nigga,

1295
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: I'm like faux foot folds.

1296
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 3: Okay. So we on set and uh, I never forget this. DMX.

1297
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: Walker would be like, Hey, I'm just gonna do this

1298
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: real quick. I'll be right back, and he opened.

1299
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 3: Up his hand. He had a bunch of weed in it.

1300
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You're like, y'all gonna go

1301
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: smoke pretty much to come back, So boom, he goes smoke.

1302
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 1: They send me in a trailer and they like yo

1303
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: rap for him. So at that time I thought my

1304
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: fly is shit was like some Chicago shit. So I

1305
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: was like, I say, I don't know if in fit

1306
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 1: with the TIMPs won't go to the hemp y'all better

1307
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 1: the fast twister type flow or whatever.

1308
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,439
Speaker 3: He's like, I don't know what you just said.

1309
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: You got another one, So I do another one for him,

1310
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: and the whole trailer go crazy Aliyah and the trailer

1311
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: all these different people whatever, And now mind you, I'm

1312
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: foe with four so I'm really a kid like it,

1313
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 1: don't look like I look younger than I really am.

1314
00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: So from there we lead a video shoot that next day.

1315
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: I'm on top of the world. I'm super excited about it.

1316
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: I come back to the video the next day. Because

1317
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: this is in a three day video shoot, Hype Williams

1318
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,600
Speaker 1: to shot the video. It's that type of budget. So

1319
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: we had day two. Now he told me come back.

1320
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: I come back. They playing he playing my demo out

1321
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: his trailer, blasting my shit. Soon as I walk like

1322
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: a movie, Like when I get to the set, my

1323
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: ship playing out his trailer. Now he going crazy. He like, Shorty,

1324
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sign you. Not gonna be fast, but I'm

1325
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: gonna sign you.

1326
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:55,520
Speaker 3: That time.

1327
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,919
Speaker 1: Shit, we had jay Z, we had all these different people,

1328
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: but I'll never forget dmx my favorite artists. It's the

1329
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: same year that he dropped the two albums Fleshing My Flesh,

1330
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 1: Blood and My Blood and then the other and then

1331
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: that was ex I think they both dropped in the

1332
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: same year. So at that point, like that was like

1333
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: the year before I met him. For Christmas, I asked

1334
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: my dad for dmx CD, and then that following spring

1335
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: I met the trailer with him and he playing my

1336
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: shit out his trailer. So he ended up doing that,

1337
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: ended up signing me, and that was the turn of

1338
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: our relationship.

1339
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 4: If you could do it over, is there anything you

1340
00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 4: would do differently about that situation?

1341
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, multiple things.

1342
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have let that gun go off in that

1343
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: house that he got me, that beautiful townhouse, and then

1344
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: deeper than that, I would have just understood what he

1345
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: was going through. I didn't know what he was going through,

1346
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: or what demons he was fighting, or what his battles

1347
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: was at the time, So I always was upset because

1348
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 1: I felt like I could have got more attention, or

1349
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: we could have been doing more different things. But it's

1350
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: so hard to be the guy and then to try

1351
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: to put other people on. So in my career that's

1352
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: what I always wanted to do. I wanted to have

1353
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: attention to the people that are actually working with me

1354
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: to make sure they got what they're supposed to get

1355
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: out of the situation.

1356
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 3: But I had to create. Yo, Shannon, I ain't gonna

1357
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 3: go DMX movie.

1358
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: He's like one of the most interesting guys I ever met,

1359
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: Like I'll never forget. We in Toronto, Canada. We stand

1360
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: at the Sutton Place Hotel. Remember I told you I

1361
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 1: lost my virginity, Yeah, to prostitutes. He took my first

1362
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: piece of two.

1363
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 4: Oh you're supposed to get something heat man, listen, So.

1364
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 3: Come on, man.

1365
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: We're in Toronto, right and DMX love pool man, love

1366
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: pool halls and shit like that, So I mind you.

1367
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: They got me in the club with the pool hall.

1368
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: But DMX at that time he had police following him

1369
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: around in Toronto. He was like the mad Toronto Like

1370
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: I seen that. Send the police to the hotel to

1371
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: go get a parand weed for him.

1372
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 3: Squad call police. Damn.

1373
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, like he was having his way. So we in

1374
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 1: the pool hall. I never forget it, man, Like it's

1375
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: a bunch of groopies around.

1376
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1377
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: I'm a young guy whatever. So like, I got me

1378
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: a girl. I'm vibing with her, and then I'm in

1379
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: the like it's time to go. So like I'm in

1380
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: with the entourage. He in the front, you know what

1381
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying, his car. I'm in the back in the

1382
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: truck with the entourage. I got the girl with me.

1383
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: We get to the hotel, they like, send a dog

1384
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: up first. The dog got to go up first, So

1385
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: he go to his room first. We all still waiting

1386
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 1: on in the cars to get out. So I get

1387
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: out his room. He got the presidential suite. I probably

1388
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: got the room right next to the nigga go. I

1389
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie. So we get there. I got the

1390
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: girl with me. I've been making out with the girl

1391
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: in the car.

1392
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, boy, I got up to that damn room

1393
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 4: and put my key up.

1394
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: It's like a dog for real, though, Rest in peace.

1395
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: He was like a bloodhound bro I'm talking about. I

1396
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: was putting my key in the door. His door swing open.

1397
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: He's like, yo, shorty, what are you doing? It was

1398
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: that and then she like hey, he like heyo, my.

1399
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 1: I think he's like your person in my room.

1400
01:00:56,320 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 3: Mind you here. I know you ain't falling with the

1401
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 3: oak you dough. Yeah, I did ship that, DMX. She

1402
01:01:03,800 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 3: she left, She left with that. I went. I went

1403
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 3: back in my room. I had to wait for the prostitutes.

1404
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 3: Ah Man.

1405
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 4: DMX one of the best people ever, and he got

1406
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:15,919
Speaker 4: that too. He told me the next.

1407
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 3: Morning, like, yeah, I handle that for you. No, I

1408
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 3: could have done that, Bro, I had that. I had

1409
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 3: that draw.

1410
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: I thought, let me give you one more about X

1411
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,440
Speaker 1: man Yo. So look, we in the studio. He making

1412
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:28,720
Speaker 1: a song called do You with IRV Gotty Rest in

1413
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: Peace to IRV Gotti. We all in the studio, we

1414
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: in Toronto, were doing the song. At that point, Shay,

1415
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I saw X He used to

1416
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: do the the Remy Martin Vlo Peter Grand Crew.

1417
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1418
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 4: So he drank two fifths by hisself. It was still

1419
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 4: able to stand up, walk around.

1420
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: Recorded the song, did whatever two fifths by himself. We

1421
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: leave his wife at the time, I think was with us.

1422
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: Shout out to my brother Ali. It was a bunch

1423
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: of us or whatever. I'm riding the car with him. Boy,

1424
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: we get to the car, he must have left something

1425
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: that called a ked the car in the studio. Let

1426
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: me tell you this shit shaan like no for real,

1427
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,920
Speaker 1: alright whatever? He lay on the ground like a dog

1428
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: and start cried like a dog. And he fell asleep

1429
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: on the concrete in the street by the bends. What

1430
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: and you know the rule, right, don't nobody wake the

1431
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: dog while he sleep. So now we're just sitting out

1432
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: there by beings. Why this cry like a dog and

1433
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: go to sleep for four hours? You can't wake the

1434
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:35,919
Speaker 1: dog while he sleep.

1435
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 4: Lord mercy, I'm keeping the hondred, keeping the brick with you.

1436
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 3: He can't wake the dog while he sleep. You lose

1437
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 3: your job waking the dog while he sleep. Shoving y'all're

1438
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 3: standing around this man layed on the concrete.

1439
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: Up that asked, I'm not lying. He's laying in the

1440
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: middle of the street. Police with us the whole thing. Boy, hours,

1441
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: that's how big he was. Wow, was colossal.

1442
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 4: It's hard to believe that in the late nineties, there

1443
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 4: was any rapper in the world bigger than X.

1444
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: I'm almost in full belief in jay Z, my favorite

1445
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: rapper all the time, but I think DMX was bigger

1446
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: than jay Z at that point.

1447
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 3: Oh, I believe it.

1448
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 4: I could believe it if you talk about if you

1449
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 4: talking about the late ninety early two thousand, ninety ninety eight,

1450
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 4: ninety seven, ninety eight, two thousand, two thousand and one.

1451
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely unbelievable times, man, for real, for real, God, So.

1452
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, how did you get out

1453
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 3: of the boarding school?

1454
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 4: So you must have behaved at some point in time

1455
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 4: or you just got too treacherous.

1456
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: They like, we can't do nothing this, well, no, you

1457
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,200
Speaker 1: know what happened. My daddy and my mama having a

1458
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: little turmoil, what that's going on, And I don't know

1459
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: what they were going through and what landed on his heart.

1460
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 1: But that man drove up there and got on a flight,

1461
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 1: got a rent a car, and came to Thompson Falls,

1462
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 1: Montana and came and got me out that program after

1463
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: probably like ten months.

1464
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 3: Did you ever call and say, Dad, this place safer me.

1465
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 4: Ain't no phone so you could So there's no contact

1466
01:03:59,000 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 4: with ritten with outside.

1467
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 1: Ain't no phone, ain't no newspaper, ain't no TV, ain't

1468
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,040
Speaker 1: no nothing. I ain't know nothing happened. I just told

1469
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: you nine to eleven happened. I ain't even know what happened.

1470
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, you cut off from the world completely. So

1471
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 3: it had to be something on your dady's heart. Man

1472
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 3: that he got that.

1473
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,919
Speaker 4: He took a flight and drove up there and said,

1474
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:17,919
Speaker 4: I'm going to get my son.

1475
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: And when we were riding, he telling me like, man,

1476
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, I know you love his music. Shit, Like

1477
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: I know you can't really like you were wrong, but

1478
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: I think you had enough. Like you don't deserve like

1479
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 1: you did a lot of accomplishments to.

1480
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 3: Get to this left. You did a lot bad, but

1481
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:31,919
Speaker 3: you did some good at the same time.

1482
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: And the first thing we did we went to Target.

1483
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: I got that jaz blueprint, I got that nas Im

1484
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 1: album and then I.

1485
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 3: Was off to the races from him.

1486
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 4: So where did you go after he comes and get

1487
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:45,439
Speaker 4: you and you get on a flight and you fly back.

1488
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 4: So where did you go? I moved in his house,

1489
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 4: so you moved with him back in Chicago. So how

1490
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 4: did you How did you end up in La all right?

1491
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: So I'm living with him in Chicago. He starts paying

1492
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 1: for studio time for me and helping me develop my shit,

1493
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: and then I become shawna hype man.

1494
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 3: Okay, So at that time, like one of my.

1495
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 1: Friends who lived in LA he was like a serious

1496
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,600
Speaker 1: weed weed man, and he starts sending up me and

1497
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: my people's like one hundred pounds a weed every every week.

1498
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 3: So you got to break that down and get off it. Yeah.

1499
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 1: I was going breaking it down getting money, being in

1500
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: the streets or whatever, doing whatever, getting my little money.

1501
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 1: I became shy of hype man. I went around the

1502
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 1: country with her because she had getting some head at

1503
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: that time. She was now she was with DTP, with

1504
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: Ludacris and okay, yep, yeah, so her career going crazier

1505
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,640
Speaker 1: and crazier, and then from them, I'll never I ended

1506
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,959
Speaker 1: up meeting Troy Carter and Jay Irvin because I knew

1507
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 1: Eve from DMX. Okay, so Eve was like a big

1508
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 1: sister to me, and there were Troy Carter and Jay

1509
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 1: Irving where was Eve managers at the time. They ended

1510
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 1: up meeting me, taking a liking to me, and they

1511
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 1: moved me to LA.

1512
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 3: So you moved and moved to La. You ended up

1513
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 3: moving in with Eve? Yeah, to a certain degree, for sure.

1514
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 1: I used to live I ain't gonna lie like like

1515
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 1: I had my spot. But then when shit got bad

1516
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,439
Speaker 1: and I wasn't getting no money, I used to live

1517
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: at the upn lot. Remember Eve had that TV show

1518
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: one Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I used to sleep in

1519
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: her dressing room or whatever, and they used to come

1520
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 1: wake me up before she I used to sleep on

1521
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: the lot. Damn, trying to make this shit happen. Man,

1522
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: Eve was so good to me. Salute to Eve. But

1523
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: she changed your name to young Bird. Yeah, my name

1524
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:19,520
Speaker 1: was Iceberg. Like I used to wear a lot of

1525
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: Iceberg clothing line back in the day or whatever. So

1526
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 1: my name was Iceberg. And this around of time when

1527
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: like everything was young young hole, young this, that and that,

1528
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: she was like she called me young Berg and that's

1529
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: how my whole name changed and it stuck.

1530
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. So how much did you write on an album?

1531
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,439
Speaker 3: Did you? For? Show?

1532
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 1: Her last album that she Drives called Evolution. I ended

1533
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 1: up writing the title track with her, whatever I did.

1534
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:43,040
Speaker 1: I did the hook on that, and that was like

1535
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 1: my first real writing placement in the game as someone

1536
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: that was like writing for another artist.

1537
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 3: She hit.

1538
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: She was so graceful to allow me to go in

1539
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 1: the studio salute the teflon who made to beat her.

1540
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 1: And I ended up writing a hook and she kept

1541
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 1: my vocals on it, and that was just like the

1542
01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: start of everything. I'm like, oh shit, like.

1543
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 4: Proud of that, proud of that you had only wrote

1544
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 4: for yourself. And so because who was I talking to?

1545
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 4: I had Snoop Dogg early early on Clutiation, and Hove

1546
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 4: wrote still Dre. I'm like, Snoop, how does someone write

1547
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 4: a song for someone else and it sounds just like

1548
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 4: Dre actually wrote that song, it's still Dre day, I'm like,

1549
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 4: how did he do that? He's like, you just have

1550
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 4: to be the person, know the person, know how what

1551
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 4: he sounds like. So you had been around Eve enough

1552
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 4: to kind of knew the kind of how she would sound,

1553
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 4: the words that she would use, because that's you know,

1554
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 4: when you do stuff like that, you have to be

1555
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 4: able to really you become Eve to an extent when

1556
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 4: you actually write this vook.

1557
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 1: See And I was love bro too, and she gave

1558
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 1: me an opportunity, so I didn't.

1559
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 3: I didn't.

1560
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: I didn't like I didn't come into it knowing it.

1561
01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: I don't even have that opportunity. I was just love

1562
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 1: bro who she believe then, and she allowed to be

1563
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,520
Speaker 1: around And then when they gave me that Ali oop

1564
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 1: and with me being around her, I'm like, man, I

1565
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 1: can't drop the ball on this. And she ended up

1566
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 1: loving it. Like I was super surprised that she even

1567
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 1: ended up loving it because I went and it turned

1568
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's like it was the same process. I

1569
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:19,559
Speaker 1: went in there, had some drinks, smoked some weed, got

1570
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: in the booth, did the hook immediately or whatever. She

1571
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 1: came in she loved it. She redid the hook and

1572
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: then sh it was on the hour.

1573
01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 4: She's married. Now I think she has a kid up up?

1574
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:32,680
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she loveled up. She remembered me.

1575
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:33,040
Speaker 4: No more.

1576
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 3: Do you see her? Do you see her rapping again? Hell? No,

1577
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 3: you see me rapping again? I catch your bet? Hell

1578
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:41,880
Speaker 3: now you doing?

1579
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 4: You done?

1580
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 1: And you gotta be I'm gonna be honest with you, Shanna.

1581
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 1: I think I'm I'm at a place where I'm comfortable.

1582
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,679
Speaker 1: Now I could be done. I don't even do anything.

1583
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 3: Oh you're gonna pull a hole.

1584
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 1: I could I could stop doing anything. But to me,

1585
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 1: it's like the job not done yet. I gotta make

1586
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:00,880
Speaker 1: some more people millionaires, like I got to put some

1587
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 1: more people in position. I think that that's really like

1588
01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,679
Speaker 1: my whole you Ever you ever realized that you really

1589
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 1: just blessed to be a blessing? Yes, and I just

1590
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 1: that's that's my whole forte right now. One of your

1591
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,600
Speaker 1: biggest songs earlier in your career was Sexy Cano ray J.

1592
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 1: When you're writing that, when you're in the studio with

1593
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,759
Speaker 1: ray J, do you have any idea that this record's

1594
01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: gonna take off?

1595
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 3: Fucking on? Do you ever have it? Like when you?

1596
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 3: I hated it? I hated it? Why?

1597
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 1: So at that time, my first hit was called Sexy Lady, right,

1598
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 1: and then I had another song called the Business with

1599
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,240
Speaker 1: my artist, and I was really trying to build my

1600
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 1: label too, you know what I'm saying. So my artist

1601
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 1: was on the song, and that still song is still

1602
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 1: a Colt classic. It's multi platinum to this day too.

1603
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 1: But I wanted to go to that song next, right,

1604
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 1: But the head of my company saluted Charlie Walker. He

1605
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 1: was the head of Epic Records at the time, And

1606
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,720
Speaker 1: I'll never forget it, man, I wouldn't do that damn song.

1607
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 1: Ray J and them, they kept asking I wouldn't do

1608
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 1: the song. And I come inside this man office and

1609
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: this man got to be about five three and he

1610
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 1: tapped dancing on this piano to the song Sexy Can. I.

1611
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna coke too. I ain't know what

1612
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 1: was going on. Like he got like he gave you

1613
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 1: that little vibe too, and he like, Yo, It's gonna

1614
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 1: be the biggest song of your career.

1615
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, what nah hell nah? He like, I'm like, bro,

1616
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 3: I wanna be the sexiest man in the world. My

1617
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 3: single out right now Hot one hundred.

1618
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 1: It's sexy Lady. Now I'm coming with sexy can I

1619
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: what the hell name my album? I'm too sexy? Like nah, Like, yo, bro,

1620
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: Like I want to go to this next song. He like,

1621
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the biggest song of your career. He like,

1622
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:34,639
Speaker 1: what's gonna take you to do the song? I'm like, man,

1623
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 1: buy me a chain, man, Carl Jason and Belly Hills. Man,

1624
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 1: give me an epic records chain. Show me how serious

1625
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: you are borrow about this record.

1626
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 3: I'll get you. I get you good. So that's what

1627
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:46,760
Speaker 3: you tell ray J.

1628
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 1: No. I told this to Charlie Walker, president of the

1629
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 1: company beside too.

1630
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:53,800
Speaker 3: Yes, So he like, all right, Bet call him up.

1631
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:55,160
Speaker 3: He by a chain.

1632
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh, it's getting made, all right, Bet,

1633
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:01,759
Speaker 1: say let's I'll end up doing the song in Miami

1634
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 1: at the same studio that I work out here right now.

1635
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:04,719
Speaker 3: Wow, yup.

1636
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 1: It called Circle House salute to BB his father. You

1637
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 1: know that studio so legendary. You have a Cops bat boys. Yeah,

1638
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 1: boy in the Circle is their studio. The people that

1639
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 1: sing the song.

1640
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 3: Wow. So it's a legendary studio.

1641
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,760
Speaker 1: So I ended up doing the song there, and then

1642
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 1: from there it was like, all right, man, I think

1643
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: this's gonna be something. And I think that when I

1644
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 1: knew it was gonna be really good, it's came back

1645
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 1: out to La to finish the song with ray J,

1646
01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:30,839
Speaker 1: and it's me in the studio.

1647
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 3: Tiera Marie is with ray J. That's his girlfriend. At

1648
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 3: the time. I ain't know that. I didn't even know

1649
01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 3: it was Tiera Marie. She was.

1650
01:11:37,080 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 1: I thought she was a bad chick because you know

1651
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: what was going on, and I had the girl that

1652
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 1: sang the hook on my song. That was my artist

1653
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,720
Speaker 1: who I was also dating at the time too. I'll

1654
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 1: never forget this session. Shanna were coming there, he and there.

1655
01:11:49,960 --> 01:11:51,719
Speaker 1: He got a gun on the on the on the table.

1656
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, what what is ray J on right now?

1657
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: Like I'm thinking ray J, like, come on, bro, he

1658
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: got a gun. He had just did this deal with

1659
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 1: Vivid it for Kim Kardashian for the porn oldeal to

1660
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 1: end up doing.

1661
01:12:04,280 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 3: He like, man, you know, I'm in my vibe right now.

1662
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 4: Ber, Like, I don't even want to, like, like, I

1663
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 4: don't want to disrespect your woman.

1664
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: Can I put these on? And he put on up.

1665
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,160
Speaker 1: He showed me a bunch of like Vivid DVDs a porn. Yeah,

1666
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,280
Speaker 1: so he won't watch porn while we doing the song.

1667
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:21,759
Speaker 1: What yeah on the big screen he won't. Poor, I'm good.

1668
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 3: Cuz it was his session. I'm like, you do what

1669
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:25,920
Speaker 3: you want to, dude, it's your session. I don't know

1670
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:26,640
Speaker 3: what I mean.

1671
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 1: I'm coming, I don't know what you go ahead, boy,

1672
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 1: he playing that ship. So we're finishing the song. I'm

1673
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 1: doing like a libs on the song and finishing the song,

1674
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 1: we're putting the final touches something together he like, let

1675
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 1: me go in the booth for one more time. Man,

1676
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: I got to do it one more time. So he

1677
01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 1: going there, he's hitting this note. He like, cannot just

1678
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: have some fun.

1679
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 3: Going off with it. I'm like, what is this doing? Tiera?

1680
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 4: Marie like, boy, if y'all shut your ass up with

1681
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 4: this bullshit.

1682
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 3: She in a control room with me. She clowned up.

1683
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 1: He like, girl, this's my Stevie, this is my Stevie.

1684
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 1: Wonder I'm trying to hit my Stevie. At the end,

1685
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:06,000
Speaker 1: she's like, yo, Stevie. And then from there the song

1686
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 1: came out and I'll never forget it.

1687
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 3: Man, that shit.

1688
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 1: Skyrocketing as soon as it dropped. I don't know how

1689
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: it happened, a perfect storm of situations, but it's skyrocket

1690
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 1: as soon as it dropped. And the end, I mean,

1691
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,479
Speaker 1: the video shoot is a whole nother different story.

1692
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:20,600
Speaker 3: You know.

1693
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: I went to jail on the set of the video

1694
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:27,840
Speaker 1: right how we there, first shot of the day. I'm

1695
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 1: smoking a blunt or whatever. We got police securing us

1696
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 1: on the set. I hit the blunt. I throw a

1697
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 1: roach out. Police come. He must have been having a

1698
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 1: bad day. He picked up that roach, smelled it. He said,

1699
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 1: is he a lead guy principal in this video? They said, yeah,

1700
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 1: not today, lock me up in Miami the first shot

1701
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 1: of the video, put the cuffs on me, took me

1702
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 1: to jail in Day County. So now I'm in jail.

1703
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, this shit is crazy. I'm freezing though,

1704
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 1: like I think I had like a tank top on.

1705
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 1: You know, they throw you in that jail boy, cold

1706
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 1: is hell. I'm in that freezing. They try to get

1707
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 1: me blooney sandwich. They don't know I ain't ever had

1708
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:05,360
Speaker 1: a sandwich before all my life. I'm like, hey, yo, yo,

1709
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: these niggas a trip, but I'm trying to get out.

1710
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 1: Next thing I know, probably like six hours later, they like,

1711
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:13,799
Speaker 1: what you can.

1712
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:14,320
Speaker 3: Get up out of here?

1713
01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:18,599
Speaker 1: Now, guess who bailed me out of jail? Who Shaquille O'Neil.

1714
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 1: You lying on everything. Shaquille O'Neil and Ray j had

1715
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 1: a partnership for Sexy Kenny with that record Shaq it

1716
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 1: was on Shock record label. Shack came and bailed me

1717
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 1: out of jail. Wow, And that's how I get back

1718
01:14:30,439 --> 01:14:32,759
Speaker 1: to the video set to complete the video. You wouldn't

1719
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 1: even know it because the video tricks of the in

1720
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 1: the editing, but like bro like I was gone. It

1721
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 1: was nighttime by the time I got back to the video.

1722
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 1: When I got back, filmed the video and it became

1723
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 1: a success.

1724
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 3: Prior of this song, had you ever met ray J before?

1725
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 1: Once or twice? And I was just like, not like

1726
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 1: as a friend or nothing like that. I was a

1727
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: fan of his album with one wish on it or whatever.

1728
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 1: And then not only that, he was ray J. He

1729
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: was hitting everybody. So I'm like, yo, this is my

1730
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 1: kind of guy. Yeah it think gotta be around me.

1731
01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 1: I gotta get some of these fruits and love.

1732
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 3: What's up? Man? What are we doing? And that's how

1733
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 3: we linked. Did you know ray J was just crazy?

1734
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 3: He always been like this.

1735
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 1: M hm, let me tell you something. Shame Once Sexy

1736
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,320
Speaker 1: can I took off rest in peace. Him and Whitney

1737
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 1: Houston was there was a thing. There were a couple,

1738
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: and that's when I knew this crazy Wow. And when

1739
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 1: I say crazy, not in a bad way, but like, look,

1740
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 1: we in your stomping ground, so Sexy cannot going crazy.

1741
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 1: We in Atlanta and ray like, man, I got a

1742
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 1: surprise to night boy. You gonna love this.

1743
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 3: I'm like what. He like, You're gonna love it.

1744
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 1: Next thing, I know, we at the hotel, Whitney with

1745
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 1: with Ray. So he like, Whitney coming to compound with

1746
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:48,719
Speaker 1: us tonight. We gotta show a compound. He like, Whitney

1747
01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 1: coming with us to compound. We're finna go crazy. I'm like,

1748
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 1: what yup? What, bro, You're not This shit is a movie.

1749
01:15:56,520 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 1: So we getting an suv. Ray J's sitting like in

1750
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 1: the back back, Whitney sitting right here. I'm sitting right here.

1751
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 1: So we get the compound. Now, Whitney's are real, like

1752
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 1: for real, for real, Like we ain't got no liquor.

1753
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 1: She like, send the niggas in there, go get me

1754
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 1: some patrol. They come out with the gallon of patrol.

1755
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 1: Me and Whitney drinking out the patron, two hands drinking

1756
01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 1: out the bottle like this chain smoking cigarettes together, talking shit,

1757
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 1: blah blah blah.

1758
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 3: And she went in there.

1759
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 1: She supported us while we was in there on stage.

1760
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:28,920
Speaker 1: Whitney Houston was on stage with us in compound while

1761
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 1: we did the record. It's pictures of it and all

1762
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:33,439
Speaker 1: types of shit on the internet and this, that and

1763
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 1: the third. But he'll go the craziest part we get

1764
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 1: back to the hotel, Shay, I ain't trying to blast

1765
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 1: it up or whatever. So you know, Rachel a dog.

1766
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 1: So we left compound. I know, he listen to me.

1767
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:51,679
Speaker 1: We left compound. So now he like, how many extra

1768
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:53,640
Speaker 1: rooms you got, because you know how you you you

1769
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 1: move in like you got a room for this and

1770
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 1: the couple of peoples that left. I got a couple

1771
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 1: of them and shit whatever. He's like, let me get

1772
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 1: that extra room. I'm like, all right, bet So, I

1773
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 1: give him the key. So now I'm looking for him

1774
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:05,000
Speaker 1: or whatever.

1775
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 3: I go to his room.

1776
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 1: Wore I go in the room. It's like a sweet

1777
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 1: walk around for Woe boom, you know, Whitney getting undressed

1778
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 1: in the room and ray J room. She's like, get

1779
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 1: out of here, young Berg. I'm like, oh shit, yep man,

1780
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:25,600
Speaker 1: because ray J was down the hall with one of

1781
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 1: my little joints.

1782
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:29,320
Speaker 3: You gotta get him.

1783
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 4: You had him on here I have Oh boy, I

1784
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:39,679
Speaker 4: showed you we didn knew this story. Yeah, to see Whitney.

1785
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 4: And I'm not saying she's a top three voice. Yeah

1786
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 4: you are. You are woman's voice all time. And I'm

1787
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 4: not saying she two or three? Were you and awe

1788
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 4: when you said, man, this is Whitney Houston, this is

1789
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 4: Whitney mofo Houston.

1790
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, she had that glow bro she had that

1791
01:17:57,479 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 1: or you know how people talk about or right now

1792
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 1: stuff like she had it, but you want to.

1793
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 3: Know what it was.

1794
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 1: It was very ridged though, Like I thought it was

1795
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 1: like you know how you watch Whitney and it's like, yo,

1796
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 1: you thinking like and I always love.

1797
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're all glad up and she got she got

1798
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:14,759
Speaker 4: the gown on and everything.

1799
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 3: When are you gonna let you know, she from Newark

1800
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 3: gonna play rest in Peace? No cap?

1801
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 4: So when they you're in jail and they said, Howard

1802
01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 4: you good to go? Okay, you know you're getting up

1803
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,160
Speaker 4: out of there? Did you have any idea that it

1804
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:33,800
Speaker 4: was gonna be shocked they came and got you up.

1805
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 3: Out of the hell now? Because did you know that

1806
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 3: ray J was like on his label anything? Yeah?

1807
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,320
Speaker 1: I knew, But but who really thinking about at the time.

1808
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 1: This was the time when he was over he and

1809
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 1: he was a shaff or whatever. Yeah, so who really

1810
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 1: thinking that that was the case Like he ended up

1811
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:51,760
Speaker 1: being at the video later that night and all that

1812
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 1: other stuff too or whatever. So we able to put

1813
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:55,759
Speaker 1: all the piece together. But it was the first shot

1814
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 1: that I ain't never met Shock before in my life.

1815
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 3: Wow. So when you got in the car, what the

1816
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 3: shack say to you? Come on, little man, I'm just

1817
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 3: nah man s lutor Shack.

1818
01:19:10,120 --> 01:19:11,600
Speaker 4: Was that the only time that you ever have you

1819
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,920
Speaker 4: ever had any other interaction with Jaq after that point?

1820
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 1: Hell no, he just being He's just deal with all

1821
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 1: the same women I deal with that boy, Shock a savage.

1822
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:27,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's go ahead on, we're gonna talk about that.

1823
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,680
Speaker 4: But recently ray J said that it's hard. Is the

1824
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,360
Speaker 4: only function at twenty five percent, and he doesn't have

1825
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 4: much time, he said, I mean I think I read

1826
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 4: what he said twenty seven, twenty twenty seven. He definitely

1827
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 4: gonna be out of here when you hear stuff like that,

1828
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:44,800
Speaker 4: do you. I mean, it's hard. Don't tell you for

1829
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:46,600
Speaker 4: the call, ray J. I would love to.

1830
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:49,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, but look now I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna

1831
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:52,040
Speaker 1: show you what I said because you know I can't.

1832
01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta be look at look at my.

1833
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:59,000
Speaker 3: Last text one. Okay, I'm doing ya all the way

1834
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:03,880
Speaker 3: at the bottom. The last thing I said, you trolling? Yeah,

1835
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 3: with the question, I don't know what you're doing? You trolling? Gang? Like,

1836
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:11,679
Speaker 3: what's up? Are you trolling? Yeah? Okay, I'm done.

1837
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 4: Crash Out campaigns officially wrapped after today, just one more

1838
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 4: after the day.

1839
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 3: It's Ober you at you trolling? Yeah? Bro, that's really

1840
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:25,080
Speaker 3: my brother Shay.

1841
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:29,280
Speaker 1: So it's like, I don't know, but I mean if

1842
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 1: that is the case, like, man, I don't I don't

1843
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 1: like it, and I'm gonna be right that for him,

1844
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 1: whatever I could do, because he changed my life, that's

1845
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 1: a ten million.

1846
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 4: Cellar, right. What was it like being a teen star?

1847
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 4: You're like, you're getting this business. You're fourteen years of

1848
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 4: age and you start. You start as sending right away,

1849
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 4: and you have access. You around DMX, you're around Eve,

1850
01:20:52,439 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 4: you would Ray J and Shot come bail you out

1851
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:57,919
Speaker 4: of jail. So you're around some of the biggest musical

1852
01:20:58,080 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 4: artists in the in the game.

1853
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 3: What's that like for you? I don't know. I was wild.

1854
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 1: I was even wilder than I was as a kid.

1855
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 1: I used to wake up every damn popa ecstasy just

1856
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,720
Speaker 1: be wild and just like a terror, just like a

1857
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 1: bad person.

1858
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:12,559
Speaker 3: Do you remember a whole lot about that? Hell?

1859
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, every moment of it, like there was some of

1860
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 1: the greatest times.

1861
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 3: Of my life.

1862
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 1: Like I ain't gonna lie, like I don't shy away

1863
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 1: from that. And I blamed ya Rule and all them

1864
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 1: for that, for me doing ecstasy and all the other stuff,

1865
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 1: because you gotta remember, I was at the Murder Ink

1866
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 1: mansion at the heyday of when they was doing all that.

1867
01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:31,000
Speaker 3: Type of stuff or whatever.

1868
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 1: And when I seen Yia Rul take an ecstasy and

1869
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 1: make them type of songs, I said, that's why I'm.

1870
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 3: Going that what you doing? And I went, I.

1871
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 4: Don't really know how to ask this question. You asked it,

1872
01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 4: but you said it. You said there were times when

1873
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 4: you were on the screen tour that mothers would hand

1874
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 4: deliver their daughters.

1875
01:21:55,400 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 3: Correct, correct, see what see shining this pre Instagram?

1876
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 1: We were wiling, Yeah, Like I would go to the

1877
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 1: radio station with my people and be like, uh, call

1878
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 1: it ninety nine da dad. You know how everybody on

1879
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 1: the show We Am We Are Hot ninety seven yo

1880
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 1: were in New York, ain't on Instagram? Three one oh

1881
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 1: two five thig da da da da call my man

1882
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 1: right now. We're finna go there meet us at Dada.

1883
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 1: We were wiling out like on a whole nother level.

1884
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 1: So I've definitely like been hand delivered like a woman

1885
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 1: like yo, like this is my daughter. I think she's

1886
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 1: a great look for you. I think I see where

1887
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 1: you're going. Would you mind like taking her home with

1888
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 1: you tonight?

1889
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,760
Speaker 3: A mother giving you. That's why I said I'm damaged.

1890
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 1: Because I seen the money outlook early when I was

1891
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 1: still pure, when I wanted that real love and that

1892
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:56,840
Speaker 1: real connection or whatever. I seen the motives. So it's like.

1893
01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:01,439
Speaker 3: And I wasn't even as just I am nah, that

1894
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 3: was Can you.

1895
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:05,040
Speaker 4: Let your guard down? After think about it? Here you

1896
01:23:05,080 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 4: are you say you're about to be forty. You got

1897
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 4: in the game, so you've been in this thing for

1898
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:10,879
Speaker 4: a quarter century and you've seen.

1899
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 3: It all, done it all, hurt it all.

1900
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 4: Is that anyway here can let his guard down and says, Babe,

1901
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:20,679
Speaker 4: I trust you. Let somebody get that close to you. Yeah,

1902
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 4: it's coming soon. But I think the.

1903
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 1: Situation just has to be so beautiful or it either

1904
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 1: has to be so left field or it has to

1905
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:33,280
Speaker 1: be so in my field that we both this is

1906
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 1: what the real man. Damn, nobody want to say. This

1907
01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 1: settling down is a very like to women or to

1908
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 1: other people, has a bad connotation on it because.

1909
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 3: You think about it settling. Nobody wants to settle. We're

1910
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:46,320
Speaker 3: gonna have to.

1911
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:50,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it might not be as dramatic or as drastic

1912
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 1: as someone thinking that, oh, you're gonna have to deal

1913
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:55,480
Speaker 1: with that man having twenty kids behind.

1914
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 3: Your back or whatever. You settling in some degree, right,

1915
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 3: I might. Here's an example.

1916
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 1: Sexually, I could not be I could be overly satisfied,

1917
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 1: and I could be not satisfied. In another dynamic of

1918
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,759
Speaker 1: what she might can't cook, right, she might I'm settling.

1919
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 3: Right, the woman settling too.

1920
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,120
Speaker 1: She might want a man that can just go to

1921
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:18,720
Speaker 1: work nine to five, come home to her, give her

1922
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,679
Speaker 1: all the attention that she won't, and be that for her. Right,

1923
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 1: if she deal with me, she's settling if that's what

1924
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: her vision is. So I think that us as men

1925
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 1: and women, we gotta come to the table and say, yo,

1926
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with seling down.

1927
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna settle it some way.

1928
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 4: But here you do realize that you're never gonna find

1929
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,639
Speaker 4: a woman that have every attributes that you're looking for.

1930
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 4: She's five to ten, she has this hair, she has

1931
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 4: hair she has a job. You know, she's built like

1932
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:50,519
Speaker 4: an Athenian goddess. You're never gonna can cook. She's educated,

1933
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 4: she's well versed. You're not gonna find somebody that has

1934
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 4: everything that she's gonna be even she's gonna wait on you.

1935
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 4: You're backing call because you gotta realize that she got

1936
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:00,639
Speaker 4: her own career. Because now you're gonna that's court, because

1937
01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 4: you're gonna ask you to do a little sacrificing, because

1938
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 4: two people can't sacrifice in the relationship, because somebody's gonna

1939
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 4: go to.

1940
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 1: Hell if I don't find it in the next two

1941
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 1: three years. I got a lot of faith in Elon

1942
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 1: how he making them robots.

1943
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:16,720
Speaker 3: That my budget gonna be able to get it, and

1944
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 3: it's gonna be able to do it. Don't you want

1945
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 3: somebody to come? Don't you want somebody? Honey? I'm home? Hey, honey,

1946
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 3: how is your day when you're having a bad day?

1947
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 4: Like, hey, you just couldn't you just couldn't get that beat,

1948
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:31,840
Speaker 4: like like you wanted it, and you got somebody, And

1949
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 4: you got somebody that even that you haven't told her

1950
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 4: that something's going on bad.

1951
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:38,960
Speaker 3: She knows you. I do.

1952
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:41,640
Speaker 1: I want that I really, I think I want the

1953
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 1: kid dynamic one or anything you though. I would love

1954
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 1: to see like a little me you know what I'm saying,

1955
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 1: pop out or whatever. And I just think that, like

1956
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:52,719
Speaker 1: we said, like, I ain't like the women's situation.

1957
01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 3: It's just all feelings based.

1958
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 1: I've been in situations with great women, but they've allowed

1959
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 1: their feelings to outshine with the big picture and it started,

1960
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and shit inspiraled out into

1961
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 1: another different direction. So to me, it's like, man, I'm

1962
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 1: trying uh or them robots coming.

1963
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 4: Hey, you do realize now if you get one? I

1964
01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 4: mean I guess they could, but I'm assuming that if

1965
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:20,640
Speaker 4: you waited this long, it's gonna be you like basketball

1966
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:21,200
Speaker 4: one on one.

1967
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 3: Wait what I mean? You get this work? Ah? Here?

1968
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:27,720
Speaker 3: Come on?

1969
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 1: You think that's realistic for me to tell a woman

1970
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 1: that I'm only gonna deal with her for the rest

1971
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 1: of my life as an OGR.

1972
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 4: So you don't believe in monogat me, or you don't

1973
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 4: believe in it. For you, I believe in respect, how

1974
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:45,760
Speaker 4: you respect her, what you don't know on hers.

1975
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 1: As long as I'm doing and I'm moving away, I'm

1976
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 1: supposed to move, and I'm moving very tactical. You don't

1977
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 1: see nothing. I ain't in no blogs. It ain't nobody

1978
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:56,160
Speaker 1: pressure coming to you as a woman.

1979
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 4: So you try to move like them before it, like

1980
01:26:57,920 --> 01:26:59,599
Speaker 4: they winning it over there and got what you call about.

1981
01:27:00,160 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 3: But I'm trying to tell you that's the.

1982
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,679
Speaker 1: Only way to move though, like it. It's certain cheaters.

1983
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:09,639
Speaker 1: It's the cheater that just don't care her, reckless, careless

1984
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 1: with it. It's the cheater that the double life cheater

1985
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 1: that's spending the money, that's putting somebody up and this,

1986
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 1: that and the third. I think that cheater hurt more

1987
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 1: to your woman anyways, because when the women find out

1988
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 1: you allocating that money and yeah, yeah.

1989
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 4: You got she got Burkins and got a partment and

1990
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 4: got a g wagon arranged.

1991
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 1: But don't nobody see that the phone messed it up?

1992
01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 1: Because I think that when men initially start doing that,

1993
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 1: they were paying for privacy, like I'm gonna give you

1994
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:36,600
Speaker 1: some money for you shut up, for my wife not

1995
01:27:36,640 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 1: to know about it, for this not.

1996
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:40,719
Speaker 3: To be a thing. So I think that hurts more.

1997
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 1: And then there's the cheater that the passport bro cheater,

1998
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 1: the guy that's in that's in Bali with Yeah, you

1999
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on.

2000
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:54,600
Speaker 4: I thought it was just one. I thought it was

2001
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 4: gonna be your your wife, your girl.

2002
01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 3: And you think I'm going on to Mofy Coast with

2003
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 3: one one?

2004
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:03,880
Speaker 4: I would Yeah, that's what I was thinking. That's what

2005
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:05,719
Speaker 4: That's what that came to my head.

2006
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:08,720
Speaker 1: No, it's a group trip. Oh you got some of

2007
01:28:08,760 --> 01:28:11,680
Speaker 1: the boys go with you, so you know, preferably not

2008
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 1: maybe like one or two. Oh my goodness, you must

2009
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:17,840
Speaker 1: be on them sparks.

2010
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 3: Hell no, I'm I'm gonna I want to look potier.

2011
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 3: You think women gonna sign up for that? Hell?

2012
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're enough. You go, bro, You're in sports, right, sports?

2013
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:37,200
Speaker 1: You you ain't entertainment now. Yeah, but let's take it

2014
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 1: off me and you. Let's just go ahead and just

2015
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:41,360
Speaker 1: put a blanket statement. You think anybody in the NBA

2016
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:47,960
Speaker 1: is faithful? I do the the the one that's been

2017
01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 1: locked in, that that that had enough that you Donna's haslam, Yeah.

2018
01:28:54,160 --> 01:28:56,640
Speaker 3: Like about mine?

2019
01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 1: You think that homeboy that got Dre only only the

2020
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:05,360
Speaker 1: with that? What you feel about Drea? She she forty five.

2021
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 3: I like Dre too.

2022
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:10,720
Speaker 4: I don't like I said, man, I don't really know.

2023
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 4: I'm look, I mind my business. See, I get twelve hours.

2024
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:16,719
Speaker 4: I get twenty four hours of the day, twelve hours

2025
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 4: I mind my business. The other twelve hours I stay

2026
01:29:18,760 --> 01:29:23,640
Speaker 4: out of everybody else's business. So I'm busy, right this

2027
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 4: I mean, and people like, well, she's there, she's that,

2028
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 4: and she's That's a grown man. That man can bolt,

2029
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 4: he can buy alcohol, he can runt a car, he

2030
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 4: can do all that stuff on his own.

2031
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 3: He know what he doing. Well.

2032
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 1: I can look at how he move and can tell

2033
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 1: he ain't grown like he still got some growing.

2034
01:29:38,400 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 3: Up to do. But we all been there. Yeah, but

2035
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 3: he ain't ready.

2036
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 4: Hey, I don't know, Drea, come sit down and talk

2037
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:48,120
Speaker 4: to me about it. Please come and sit out.

2038
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 3: Put us all down to you. Man, we love you.

2039
01:29:49,920 --> 01:29:51,120
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, respectful?

2040
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't look, I think I guarantee

2041
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:55,479
Speaker 1: he something other than her.

2042
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:59,680
Speaker 3: Man. Don't don't see that here because I don't know.

2043
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't want to put that out

2044
01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 3: there in the universe.

2045
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 1: Man, it's mad horny you talking about dude. I got

2046
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:07,719
Speaker 1: Roman sparks because I'm about to be forty. That nigga

2047
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:09,719
Speaker 1: don't need no sparks now he don't need no spot

2048
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 1: more mad horny? Yeah, because I remember I was that age.

2049
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 3: How me away games in the in a year? Forty

2050
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:23,559
Speaker 3: one went went forty one? Oh he lost one of them.

2051
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 1: Mother.

2052
01:30:29,720 --> 01:30:32,800
Speaker 4: I hope hey, Broy, I hope you ainy Jalen Man.

2053
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:34,120
Speaker 4: I hope you payful to your girl.

2054
01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 3: I hope you hey. I hope y'all good. I hope

2055
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 3: y'all locked here me too. Shit, it ain't got nothing

2056
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:41,960
Speaker 3: to ask, ain't it ain't doing nothing for me? So

2057
01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 3: I rushed out of been. How about goodness. You've been

2058
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:49,759
Speaker 3: making money at a younger for a long time, young age.

2059
01:30:50,240 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 1: What's one of your worst purchases? I see, I probably

2060
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 1: did it last year. I think I did about like

2061
01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:56,400
Speaker 1: twelve cars in one year.

2062
01:30:56,760 --> 01:31:02,080
Speaker 3: Twelve you one, dude, Why you here? Why you need twelve?

2063
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:04,639
Speaker 1: You know I lived in La so I wasn't doing

2064
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:06,519
Speaker 1: a lot of driving. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

2065
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 1: I was more so like security picked me up. The

2066
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:11,519
Speaker 1: black truck woved me around this then and the third

2067
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:13,360
Speaker 1: when I got to Miami and they got to stand

2068
01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 1: your ground law, you could have a firearm peacefully. And

2069
01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 1: the way I move I'll move like a rich white man.

2070
01:31:18,760 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 1: I'm not around no like negativity and no functions. I

2071
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 1: just went overboard. Do you hopefully you got rid of

2072
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 1: some of them? So now you got like two or three?

2073
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:30,559
Speaker 1: Two or three is a good number. I got three,

2074
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:33,080
Speaker 1: but I'm thinking about the fourth of them, just because

2075
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 1: I never had it. I never had the years the truck, Okay,

2076
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:37,519
Speaker 1: so I wanted to try it right now. I got

2077
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 1: the Spectra, I got the McLaren and I got the

2078
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 1: cyber truck.

2079
01:31:41,680 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 3: You like the cyber truck. It's my trap car.

2080
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 1: You'd think I'm back in Chicago selling crack again, and

2081
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 1: that motherfucker I'll treat that shit like a.

2082
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:52,880
Speaker 4: Honda if you could do anything different.

2083
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,280
Speaker 3: But what would you do? I mean, would you have invested?

2084
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 3: I mean your dad? Why did you do you invest

2085
01:31:57,120 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 3: in your dad's real estate?

2086
01:31:58,240 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 4: Up?

2087
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:01,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, my day had been my business managing my whole time.

2088
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so that's why y'all got fifteen building. And

2089
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 1: my dad been running my business since from from the beginning. Wow,

2090
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:11,360
Speaker 1: So he he know what he all? My ad And

2091
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:13,960
Speaker 1: that's that's one thing that I could tell people, man

2092
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 1: Like that was just so beautiful for me. Because that

2093
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 1: might be a more important decision besides who you do

2094
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 1: have a baby with. Who watched them finance? Oh yeah

2095
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 1: for sure. So to have someone that really cared about

2096
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 1: me and my best interest and that to know he

2097
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:31,160
Speaker 1: got money, yes, and to know that I got his trust,

2098
01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 1: his living trust in my email that say everything that

2099
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 1: he got come to me.

2100
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:40,920
Speaker 3: Right, I'm gonna lose it because money changed people.

2101
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:44,599
Speaker 4: You can have an agreement and the money start coming

2102
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:47,640
Speaker 4: in more than what people thought. Now they're trying to

2103
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 4: conspire away, try to find a way to get.

2104
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:51,559
Speaker 3: More of it. I don't know what I mean.

2105
01:32:53,280 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 4: And it's like, you know, money is the root of

2106
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 4: all lever and it used to be where the lack

2107
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 4: of money or the pursuit of money is the root

2108
01:32:59,520 --> 01:33:02,519
Speaker 4: of all ever. But sometimes people have an absorbing amount

2109
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 4: of money and they still want more.

2110
01:33:04,200 --> 01:33:06,160
Speaker 1: That's why I'm believing all this love and all this

2111
01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 1: other shit. It's bullshit though. It's all feeling based though,

2112
01:33:08,840 --> 01:33:10,840
Speaker 1: because if I really love you, I want to see

2113
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:13,320
Speaker 1: you be at the best, at your full potential. Like

2114
01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:16,400
Speaker 1: I've been in relationships with people, public relationships or whatever

2115
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:18,600
Speaker 1: to where I'm not in them with right now, and

2116
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:21,240
Speaker 1: like if I pull back from that, and even though

2117
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:23,720
Speaker 1: I might have feelings, but if I genuinely love this

2118
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 1: person and someone else makes this person happy, you.

2119
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:27,640
Speaker 3: Gotta be happy about that.

2120
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:31,280
Speaker 1: Yes, I never understood the dynamic to where you don't

2121
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:33,080
Speaker 1: want to be with me and you want to take

2122
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 1: from me in the process.

2123
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:36,599
Speaker 3: Yes, you want to, but you know what it is? Though?

2124
01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:38,600
Speaker 3: What is it? They know that's the only way I

2125
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:40,840
Speaker 3: can hurt you. Yeah, all you could do.

2126
01:33:40,840 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 1: The only thing you can do it hurt me is

2127
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:45,360
Speaker 1: play with my career, get online and say some old shit.

2128
01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:46,599
Speaker 3: Or play with the paper.

2129
01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:50,280
Speaker 1: They know that the feelings and all that other shit

2130
01:33:50,439 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 1: is real, genuine feelings from me, really there. So no

2131
01:33:54,040 --> 01:33:56,639
Speaker 1: matter how we fall out on a feeling base, I'm

2132
01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:58,759
Speaker 1: gonna still be at a to rock with you. Unless

2133
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 1: you cross certain lines and boundaries. That's uncrossable.

2134
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 3: But these ladies know they can't hurt you unless they're

2135
01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 3: doing that type of shit. And I just don't like that.

2136
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 3: I don't respect that. Wow, how do you you got

2137
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 3: your chain lifted up off YOUA? Yeah? That was that

2138
01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 3: was a young young type of vibe too. You gave

2139
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 3: it up easy.

2140
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:19,559
Speaker 1: Hell No, I ain't never really talk about this in

2141
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 1: like a real detail, and I feel comfortable speaking with

2142
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:26,200
Speaker 1: you about it. So back in the day, right, So

2143
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 1: I'm young bird boom, I got all this shit going on.

2144
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:32,360
Speaker 1: I got the number one record on radio, I got

2145
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:36,360
Speaker 1: the biggest song or whatever. And I think one of

2146
01:34:36,400 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 1: the Relabel reps that hit me and said, like, yo,

2147
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 1: when you go to.

2148
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:42,799
Speaker 3: Detroit for summer jam on headline and summer Jam, They're.

2149
01:34:42,600 --> 01:34:45,479
Speaker 1: Like, will you uh? Will you go to this club?

2150
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:47,760
Speaker 1: They don't want to pay you. But you know what

2151
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:50,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like, it's a good look, it's a relationship.

2152
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:52,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, I don't know. I ain't going, I

2153
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:55,360
Speaker 1: aint getting paid, I ain't going whatever. So we go.

2154
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:57,479
Speaker 1: I go do the summer Jam and I get to

2155
01:34:57,560 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 1: the city.

2156
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:00,000
Speaker 3: I never forget. I flew in on a private jet.

2157
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:00,439
Speaker 3: Get there.

2158
01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:04,799
Speaker 1: I go to the hotel this the night before summer Jam.

2159
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:08,799
Speaker 1: So you know, it's that that discernment and making good decisions.

2160
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 3: Ship we was talking about.

2161
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:14,439
Speaker 1: I'm young, I'm thirsty. Where the hole is at? I'm

2162
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:17,160
Speaker 1: in Detroit? Where they at? What's up? I'm in this hotel.

2163
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 1: I ain't really trying to be in. I ain't got

2164
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:20,679
Speaker 1: no work out here. I ain't got no personal work.

2165
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm here for the summer jam. I'm the big dog

2166
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:23,759
Speaker 1: where they at.

2167
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 3: So a guy that I.

2168
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:27,799
Speaker 1: Was dealing with at the time had made a suggestion

2169
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 1: that we go to a certain spot, like, yo, let's

2170
01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:32,840
Speaker 1: go here, such and such gonna be here, this what

2171
01:35:32,960 --> 01:35:34,120
Speaker 1: it is, blah blah blah.

2172
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 3: So I'm like, all right, bet, let's go now.

2173
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:39,080
Speaker 4: I had this big dumb ass change and sure like

2174
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:41,719
Speaker 4: this big transformer chain.

2175
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 1: Crazy ship and go back to ticket mm half, I

2176
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:50,759
Speaker 1: was less than that. See when you get into the carrots,

2177
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:51,960
Speaker 1: then you go ticket there.

2178
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, yeah right now, could hung on one of

2179
01:35:56,120 --> 01:35:58,360
Speaker 4: them crossing right there. I'm almost too. I gotta be

2180
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:00,800
Speaker 4: two million if I'm just sitting here right now. But

2181
01:36:00,920 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 4: in reality, this is in the era of the big

2182
01:36:04,000 --> 01:36:06,600
Speaker 4: yeah yeah or whatever, not not the.

2183
01:36:07,120 --> 01:36:11,160
Speaker 3: Super quality and so boom, I'm on the tour bus.

2184
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:13,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, should I wear this Shaine And I'm like

2185
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:15,800
Speaker 1: I had on purple or some shit like that.

2186
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:17,840
Speaker 3: I'm like, noa this match, I'm fnna wear this ship.

2187
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 3: So we go in the club. I'm in there now.

2188
01:36:21,160 --> 01:36:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm in the club and like, I want the libations

2189
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 1: to start flowing or whatever. Yeah, these shout me out,

2190
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 1: they on a mic. I don't see no bottles show

2191
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 1: up or whatever. I'm just in the spot. So I

2192
01:36:30,320 --> 01:36:33,439
Speaker 1: go to the private room to where the owner or

2193
01:36:33,479 --> 01:36:35,840
Speaker 1: whatever was there, whoever runs the manager of the club,

2194
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:37,679
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yo, like, we really want some bottles

2195
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:39,400
Speaker 1: for the club. We want some bottles in our section.

2196
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 1: I'll pay I'll pay half or a discount. Like what

2197
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 1: can we do because I'm in the club.

2198
01:36:43,280 --> 01:36:44,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Blah blah blah.

2199
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:47,719
Speaker 1: And the dude was like, man, my partners say, ain't

2200
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 1: no play for shit for y'all.

2201
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:55,560
Speaker 3: I'm like your partner. Uh. So now it started to

2202
01:36:55,560 --> 01:36:56,040
Speaker 3: click to me.

2203
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:59,360
Speaker 1: This the same club that the label told me to

2204
01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:01,320
Speaker 1: go to the I said I wasn't gonna go to.

2205
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 1: Oh so they already so the you for your agent

2206
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:07,880
Speaker 1: probably told them that and they feel in some type

2207
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 1: of way, Oh my god, where they So now I'm

2208
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 1: in the club and I'm like, uh, we're GetUp out

2209
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:15,920
Speaker 1: of there. I know we just walked in, but it's

2210
01:37:15,920 --> 01:37:18,640
Speaker 1: not I feel the energy ship yep, and just on

2211
01:37:18,720 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 1: some real truthful hon of ship, like man like the

2212
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 1: club security whoever whoever was involved into it, how the

2213
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:29,559
Speaker 1: ship went, the club security ended up just having away

2214
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:32,200
Speaker 1: with us. It wasn't like no in the club, it

2215
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:34,559
Speaker 1: wasn't new to them. It was the club security. So

2216
01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 1: when it at that point when it was multiple beat

2217
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:40,639
Speaker 1: with security on their shirt doing whatever they was doing

2218
01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:44,040
Speaker 1: with me or whatever, game the chain and then from there,

2219
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:46,639
Speaker 1: like that was kind of like that was a wild

2220
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:49,599
Speaker 1: one that kind of like put a pause to kind

2221
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 1: of my rapping career. I was kind of like I

2222
01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:55,080
Speaker 1: was like the first they got ribbed, Like I'm like

2223
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:56,840
Speaker 1: the first Indian over the hill.

2224
01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:59,280
Speaker 3: Like I didn't get ribbed every day, you.

2225
01:37:59,320 --> 01:38:01,559
Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying or whatever, But at that point,

2226
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:04,320
Speaker 1: this is like the height of world Star Twitter, the

2227
01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 1: beginning of all this shit. So like it kind of

2228
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:10,479
Speaker 1: put me in a bad spot and then ship from there.

2229
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:11,320
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie.

2230
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:13,960
Speaker 1: I got up out of the city at that time

2231
01:38:13,960 --> 01:38:16,040
Speaker 1: because they really like they really did a number on

2232
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:16,679
Speaker 1: me or whatever.

2233
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:20,839
Speaker 3: But I wish I'd have stayed off up.

2234
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:23,400
Speaker 1: And bruised up and performed for my fans, and I

2235
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 1: think the narrative would have went a little bit different.

2236
01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 1: But I was listening to too many label executives and

2237
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:31,479
Speaker 1: management at the time you get out of there, don't

2238
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:34,200
Speaker 1: talk to nobody, don't do nothing, blah blah blah blah,

2239
01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:38,000
Speaker 1: and then you know the narrative just and everybody get

2240
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 1: to put their spin on it instead of me jumping

2241
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:43,200
Speaker 1: out and saying, Yo, this will happened this when ain't happened.

2242
01:38:43,240 --> 01:38:44,720
Speaker 3: That's when I happened that. Uh, that's why I came

2243
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 3: with Tory Lanes.

2244
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:48,400
Speaker 1: I love Tory Lance, but I can't because if he

2245
01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:51,160
Speaker 1: ain't do nothing that shit, the first thing he should

2246
01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 1: have been doing street credibility.

2247
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 3: Yo, this ain't happened. That ain't happened.

2248
01:38:55,439 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 1: That's why you can't condemn meg and nothing this shit.

2249
01:38:57,400 --> 01:38:59,200
Speaker 1: That's why I don't want to hear no bad talk

2250
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:01,680
Speaker 1: about that. You know I'm saying, because you got to

2251
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:04,040
Speaker 1: get in front of that shit sometime, especially on these

2252
01:39:04,120 --> 01:39:04,800
Speaker 1: levels for real.

2253
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:07,720
Speaker 4: So what advice would what advice would you give young

2254
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:10,960
Speaker 4: rappers is what is it about? What is it about

2255
01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 4: taking the rappers change? What is it about that that's

2256
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:16,040
Speaker 4: that street cred Like you came to my city, I

2257
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:18,360
Speaker 4: jack your ish what that's about?

2258
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:21,360
Speaker 3: I think back in the day it was I'm on

2259
01:39:21,439 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 3: a hell no, I just want to steal. Bro. Bro,

2260
01:39:25,800 --> 01:39:27,160
Speaker 3: people wont through what you got.

2261
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:31,360
Speaker 1: Like you a target, nobody wants to Nobody wants to

2262
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:33,600
Speaker 1: have clarity on just how much of a target you

2263
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:35,880
Speaker 1: are when you becoming this like bro, I can't move

2264
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 1: the same. I'm terrified everywhere. I'm on defense everywhere I go.

2265
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:43,519
Speaker 1: You gotta be anything happening. What that situation you talking

2266
01:39:43,560 --> 01:39:47,080
Speaker 1: about is got to be almost That was in two

2267
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:49,280
Speaker 1: thousand and eight, it's twenties.

2268
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:50,599
Speaker 3: It's eighteen years ago.

2269
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:53,880
Speaker 1: So but at the same token, some bullshit like that

2270
01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 1: can happen eighteen years ago, you still be talking about

2271
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:57,559
Speaker 1: it in a new interview. I done changed my name.

2272
01:39:57,560 --> 01:39:59,360
Speaker 1: I ain't even say it no more right, but it's

2273
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:02,479
Speaker 1: still gonna come up. So in reality, bro, you gotta beat,

2274
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 1: You gotta move tactical. You gotta be on defense at

2275
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:07,400
Speaker 1: all times for real. But I was young and dumb

2276
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:09,439
Speaker 1: and didn't had the right guidance at that time. If

2277
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:11,960
Speaker 1: I did, somebody would have told me, man, you know what,

2278
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 1: you stay here, I'm gonna go to the club. I'm

2279
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:17,559
Speaker 1: gonna go get the girls. I'm gonna bring them back here,

2280
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:20,479
Speaker 1: and then let's get some liquor. Here, let's get the vibes.

2281
01:40:20,520 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 1: Going ahead, vibe and do whatever you want to do.

2282
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:24,360
Speaker 1: How did Soldier Boy end up with the chain?

2283
01:40:24,520 --> 01:40:27,320
Speaker 3: I have no clue. Did you get it back? I

2284
01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 3: never wanted it.

2285
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:29,920
Speaker 1: Once you get the chain, somebody rocked from the chain.

2286
01:40:29,960 --> 01:40:34,240
Speaker 1: They can't you don't want to back. And then look,

2287
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:36,840
Speaker 1: I really don't even have no beef for Sojier boy.

2288
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:38,840
Speaker 1: That was so funny, But you know, I guess he

2289
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:41,599
Speaker 1: ended up getting it because he he was on his

2290
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:45,760
Speaker 1: uh cloud, chasing shit. He wanted to continue on with

2291
01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:49,120
Speaker 1: the shit I was at it, so he went and

2292
01:40:49,120 --> 01:40:51,080
Speaker 1: got it. And it never really bothered me because it

2293
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:53,519
Speaker 1: was kind of like, I don't even know Sodier Boy

2294
01:40:53,600 --> 01:40:56,639
Speaker 1: like that, you know what I'm saying, And I didn't

2295
01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 1: look at myself, me and Soldier Boy at the same

2296
01:40:58,960 --> 01:40:59,840
Speaker 1: type of parallels as.

2297
01:41:01,360 --> 01:41:04,760
Speaker 3: But then we see p and b Rock end up

2298
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:06,720
Speaker 3: losing his life where his chaining. That won't hurt me.

2299
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:10,640
Speaker 4: So now you're like, hold on, somebody that I worked with,

2300
01:41:11,040 --> 01:41:13,599
Speaker 4: he lost his life. I was in a very similar

2301
01:41:13,640 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 4: situation and I could have easily lost my life.

2302
01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 3: What goes through your mind?

2303
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:19,559
Speaker 1: Now, he lost his life by not trying to give

2304
01:41:19,560 --> 01:41:21,200
Speaker 1: it up, get that ship up.

2305
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:24,920
Speaker 3: The only thing that can't be replaced is life.

2306
01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:30,120
Speaker 1: Y'all that ship, chain car money, I get all that back, yo.

2307
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:32,439
Speaker 1: That P and B shit broke my heart, bro because

2308
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:34,559
Speaker 1: I know that how much of a good man he was.

2309
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:37,080
Speaker 1: I know how much he cared about his daughter. I

2310
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:39,160
Speaker 1: looked at all the success that we were having at

2311
01:41:39,160 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 1: that moment, and to me, it's all about, like I said,

2312
01:41:43,880 --> 01:41:47,479
Speaker 1: being on defense. And then it's the hood mentality. Everybody know,

2313
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:50,720
Speaker 1: you don't go to that Roscoe, respectfully, you go to

2314
01:41:50,720 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 1: the one on Sunset and Gowa, yo if you going,

2315
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:56,760
Speaker 1: if you're not gonna do it, everybody know not to

2316
01:41:56,760 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 1: go to that bossing over right there on Sunset. You

2317
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:01,679
Speaker 1: order the one, or you go a little further down

2318
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:04,880
Speaker 1: on Sunset or whatever. And everybody knows how to move

2319
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:05,320
Speaker 1: out there.

2320
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:09,040
Speaker 3: But I think that door dash it.

2321
01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:11,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, but look, but you know what it is though,

2322
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:14,240
Speaker 1: people feel like when they survive the trenches coming to

2323
01:42:14,439 --> 01:42:16,799
Speaker 1: LA ain't shit, it's palm trees.

2324
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:18,320
Speaker 3: But that's the mentality.

2325
01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:20,400
Speaker 1: Though from a guy from Philly, you know what I'm

2326
01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:23,679
Speaker 1: saying from Philly, like man like, come on, like this,

2327
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:27,160
Speaker 1: this is this easy work. But in reality man like

2328
01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 1: I'm so I'm so hurt by that one, because man,

2329
01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:32,000
Speaker 1: I love that guy man for real, for real.

2330
01:42:32,520 --> 01:42:35,439
Speaker 4: This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two

2331
01:42:35,520 --> 01:42:37,759
Speaker 4: is also posted and you can access it to whichever

2332
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 4: podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just

2333
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:44,240
Speaker 4: simply go back to club profile and I'll see you

2334
01:42:44,280 --> 01:42:44,519
Speaker 4: there