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Speaker 1: Welcome to the wire to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode today. In

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Speaker 1: the show, we are talking all things shed hunting, including

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Speaker 1: when the best time to shed hunt is, how to

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Speaker 1: become a more efficient shed hunter, and much much more.

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Speaker 1: All Right, welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Onyx. Today's show we are talking shed hunting,

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Speaker 1: and by that, of course, I mean the search for

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Speaker 1: deer antlers. You know, it's early February as we speak,

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Speaker 1: and that means there are a lot of antlers on

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Speaker 1: the ground or or at least just about to be.

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to devote this episode to getting you

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Speaker 1: ready to hit the woods to find some of that

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Speaker 1: white goal, pick up some of that bone. Now, this

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Speaker 1: is going to be a little bit different episode than

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Speaker 1: usual though, because I've I've admittedly had a little bit

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Speaker 1: different week than usual, I think would be fair to

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Speaker 1: say so rather than having one main guest interview, We're

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Speaker 1: going to first open things up with a little chit

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Speaker 1: chat with my buddy further about some of our favorite

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Speaker 1: shed hunting memories and a few other odds and ends. Uh,

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Speaker 1: then we're gonna share or I'm going to share some

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Speaker 1: of my very best shed hunting advice of my own.

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Speaker 1: And then finally we're gonna go back into the archives

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Speaker 1: and hear from some of our past guests over the

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Speaker 1: last six years were their absolute best shed hunting tips

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Speaker 1: and tactics. So this one's just gonna be jam packed

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Speaker 1: with ideas and insights to help you over the next

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Speaker 1: month or two to just pile up those antlers. But

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Speaker 1: first I've got to explain why my week has been

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Speaker 1: a little bit different than usual. Um. First, you know why, right,

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Speaker 1: I know why. So so you remember this, uh this

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Speaker 1: last week's podcast, you heard that story, Josh, you know

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Speaker 1: that story. Um, I found trans antlers while taking my

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Speaker 1: and then like a day and a half later, Uh,

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Speaker 1: given up hope, like this is gonna be weeks we've

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Speaker 1: got away to the real do date. Um, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You you know it. You know it's like just before

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Speaker 1: build up to like a big presentation and you've got

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Speaker 1: it comes to shed hunting. We've talked about shed hunting

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Speaker 1: a lot in past episodes. We're gonna share a few

427
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Speaker 1: more of those best of moments here in a minute.

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Speaker 1: But I want to share a few of my best

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Speaker 1: of pieces of shed hunting advice. Over the last decade,

430
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Speaker 1: I have spent a ton of time in the woods

431
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 1: trying to become a good shed hunter and figuring it out,

432
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Speaker 1: and a few of the things that have been most

433
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Speaker 1: important to me I want I want to share with

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Speaker 1: you next. And the first thing is all about timing

435
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 1: the importance of knowing the right time to go shed hunting,

436
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 1: because if you go shed hunting too early, there's some downsides,

437
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Speaker 1: And if you go hunting too late, there are some downsides.

438
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Speaker 1: So how do you figure that out? Well, here's what

439
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Speaker 1: I want to tell you, and this is from an

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Speaker 1: article I wrote for The Mediator. If you go to

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Speaker 1: the meat Eator dot com you can find a whole

442
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Speaker 1: bunch of my writing. But I wrote a little bit

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00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 1: here on this topic, and I want to talk to

444
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Speaker 1: you about that. So, if you go hunting shed hunting

445
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 1: too early, think about this. The more frequently you walk

446
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,639
Speaker 1: through an area, the more likely you are to stress

447
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: local wildlife. If you're shed hunting in an area where

448
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Speaker 1: deer or elk struggle through tough winters, your presence could

449
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 1: be detrimental to their survival. For this reason, an increasing

450
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 1: number of Western states have put shed hunting seasons in place,

451
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: delaying pressure until most of the winners passed. Antler collectors

452
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: in the Northeast or Upper Grade Lakes might consider self

453
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Speaker 1: imposed shed hunting delay for these same reasons. Early shed

454
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Speaker 1: hunting by way of increased hunting pressure can also push

455
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Speaker 1: bucks out of your area before they've even dropped their antlers.

456
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Speaker 1: You know, if you're out there hiking around looking for antlers,

457
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Speaker 1: that are still on top of a deer's head. You're

458
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Speaker 1: wasting your time and you're reducing the chances of those

459
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Speaker 1: antlers ever ending up in an area you can search. So,

460
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Speaker 1: in an ideal situation, you want bucks feeling comfortable and

461
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Speaker 1: spending large amounts of time on your property, and then

462
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Speaker 1: only after the majority of those antlers have dropped do

463
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Speaker 1: you want to go in there looking for him. So

464
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Speaker 1: another thing to keep in mind though, is that snow

465
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Speaker 1: is a factor when planning your shed hunts. It goes

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Speaker 1: without saying that shed hunting in very snowy conditions is

467
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 1: more difficult and usually a waste of time. So those

468
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Speaker 1: are some things about going to early. On the flip side,

469
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 1: if you wait too long, if you shed hunt too late,

470
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: especially in areas with high squirrel or rodent populations, you

471
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Speaker 1: then risk significant damage being done to those falling aislers.

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Speaker 1: You know, the longer nailers is on the ground, the

473
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Speaker 1: more likely another animal is going to come over and

474
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Speaker 1: start chewing on it. Another thing to keep in mind

475
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Speaker 1: is human competition that is rising every year more and

476
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Speaker 1: more shed hunters are heading out there. So if you

477
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Speaker 1: are shed hunting shared ground or public land and you

478
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 1: show up late, there might not be any antlers left

479
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: to find at all. So keeping all of that in mind,

480
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Speaker 1: it's important to keep track of several different factors that

481
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Speaker 1: should also help you to turn when the timing is right.

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Speaker 1: The most obvious of these is the actual calendar date.

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Speaker 1: The shedding of antlers is primarily driven by dropping two

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Speaker 1: stosterol levels, and that's tied to changes in daylight. Since

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Speaker 1: the change in photo period over the course of winter

486
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Speaker 1: happens at a predictable rate, the timing of antler drop

487
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Speaker 1: is also relatively consistent. For the Midwest, the peak of

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Speaker 1: white tail antler drop tends to occur from early February

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Speaker 1: through early March. It's also important to consider how other

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Speaker 1: factors might shift the timing of antler drop earlier later

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00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,719
Speaker 1: kind of localized things, so variables such as how severe

492
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Speaker 1: the winter was, what the available in nutrition is, or

493
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Speaker 1: eading the health of individual bucks can all slide the

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Speaker 1: timing of antler drop one way or another. So the

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Speaker 1: best way I've found to keep tabs on these regional

496
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Speaker 1: factors is to monitor the local deer heard with your

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Speaker 1: trail cameras. So I like to check my trail cams

498
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Speaker 1: I like to place them near the best winter food sources,

499
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Speaker 1: checking them about weekly. When I see that more than

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Speaker 1: fifty of the box of shed, I know it's go time.

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Speaker 1: So with all that said, on most years, between February

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Speaker 1: fifteenth and March fifteenth is usually the best time to

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Speaker 1: start shed hunting, at least in my neck of the woods.

504
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Speaker 1: So I would consider or at least recommend taking a

505
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Speaker 1: look at those dates and then adjusting your starting point

506
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Speaker 1: in either direction based on those things I just mentioned

507
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Speaker 1: it save area of winter, available nutrition, and the results

508
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Speaker 1: of your trail cameras. Now, once you know when to

509
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Speaker 1: start shed hunting, the next thing is how do you

510
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Speaker 1: become a better shed hunter? And we're gonna cover a

511
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Speaker 1: few more different tips, but I think one of the

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Speaker 1: most important things I've learned is the importance of being

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Speaker 1: an efficient shed hunter. So here's a little bit of insight.

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Speaker 1: I wrote up again for the Mediator website. The best

515
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Speaker 1: and worst shed hunting advice I ever received was just

516
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,919
Speaker 1: keep walking. You know, there's a beautiful simplicity to that idea,

517
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: but also this dangerous oversimplification. When I first began shed hunting,

518
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 1: I took this approach to heart and I simply walked,

519
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: walked and walked, and walked and walked and walked. In

520
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: the most beginning shed hunters d I blindly traversed every

521
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: square inch of every property I had access to, and yes,

522
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: on occasion, I'd actually find an antler. It was great rush.

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00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: But the more years I spent scouring the forest floors

524
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Speaker 1: of the Midwest, the more I came to realize my

525
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: approach was flawed. More precisely, it was inefficient. I found

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00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: that the key to picking up more sheds is not

527
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: just endless determined walking, it's actually more efficient walking. So

528
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: why does efficiency matter? I found more than fifty white

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00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: tail antlers last year across Michigan, Ohio, and Montana, and

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00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: when studying the location of each of these antlers, a

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Speaker 1: pattern emerged that was consistent with my own observations in

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00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: the past decade. The vast majority of the antlers I

533
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: found were located in the most predictable locations, and this

534
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: pattern seemed to adhere to something I learned about an

535
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 1: economics called the Parado principle, or more commonly, the twenty rule.

536
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: This rule states of a given outcome generally results from

537
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: of the input. When this is applied to shed hunting.

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00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: It matches the pattern I observed almost perfectly. Somewhere around

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00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: eighty percent of the sheds I found were located and

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00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: only about of the area had access to And I've

541
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: seen this now time and time again. Sheds are not

542
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: spread randomly across the landscape. Instead, they're most commonly found

543
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: in concentrated areas for very specific reasons. But this being

544
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: the case, the most effective shed hunters are the most

545
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: efficient shed hunters. It's those who spend the majority of

546
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: their time focus on searching these key areas that have

547
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: the most success. Rather than spreading your shed hunting time

548
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: equally across the entire property. You want to apply a

549
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: higher degree of thoroughness to the highest potential areas. So

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00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,479
Speaker 1: then how do you identify that top When looking at

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00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: my fifty antlers from last year and the dozens of

552
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: others from previous years, it's clear that the majority of

553
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: sheds were found in one of two types of locations,

554
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: either food sources or betting areas. When it comes to

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00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: food sources, focus on those that are highly attracted to

556
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: deer during the winter months. These food sources of the

557
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: hub of the wheel that a winter white tails world

558
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: revolves around this quality food at this time is hard

559
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: to come by. For this reason, winter white tails will

560
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: frequently relocate from the typical summer fall ranges to be

561
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: close to the best food. Depending on your location, this

562
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: quality winter food might come in the form of corn

563
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: or beans, alfalfa, turnips, radishes, winter wheat, or any other

564
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: number of quality agriculture or native forage options. The key

565
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: to locating the best late season food sources in your

566
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: area is to identify the fields or location with the

567
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: highest amount of recent deer sign In particular, I'm seeking

568
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: out fresh tracks and fresh droppings, rubs, scrapes, trails, all

569
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: that stuff from last fault. They don't help you at

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00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: this point because what matters is where deer have been

571
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: through January up to March. Once you found those best

572
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: food sources, you're halfway to you. But the second half

573
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: of your high priority area comes in the form of

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Speaker 1: betting areas near those food sources. Winter bedding can come

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00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: in the form of sunny, southern facing hillsides, cedar or

576
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: pine thickets, native grasses or crp, or any other kind

577
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: of thick cover that's adjacent to that high quality late

578
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: season food. Again, you want to confirm this by looking

579
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: at these winter bedding areas and seeking out the fresh tracks, droppings,

580
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: and oval depressions formed by bedded animals. So now you've

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Speaker 1: got your focus area, how do you now use your

582
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: eight percent of thoroughness in that? Once you've identified your top,

583
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: it's time to apply your shed hunting time to these

584
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: sections in earnest, placing a disproportionate amountitor focus in these

585
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 1: high priority regions. Now, before my whole efficiency revelation, I

586
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: would spend days grid searching an entire property. I'd walk

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Speaker 1: a straight line down a border and then shift forty

588
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: yards down and do the same thing going back to

589
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Speaker 1: the other direction. The issue wasn't just that I was

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00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: spending time on the low odds locations, but when I

591
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 1: did actually arrive at the high odd spot, I was

592
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: either too short on time to properly search them where

593
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: I was so burnt out that my focus dipped. So

594
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: rather than spending ten hours walking entire property, I'll now

595
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: spend the first eight scouring the bedding and feeding areas.

596
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,959
Speaker 1: And when I do that, I'm fully engaged and I've

597
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: got high hopes my time spent there is higher quality,

598
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: more focused and ultimately more productive. With more time to

599
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: spend in these small areas, I can make the extra

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00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: effort to change my perspective, which means sometimes standing on

601
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: top of logs for a different view, or looking back

602
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: behind me in an area that might otherwise have been

603
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: blocked by brush. I moved slowly, and I scan with

604
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: more attention to detail. I pick up part of landscape

605
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: for any telltale flash of white or curve of a beam.

606
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: I carefully look behind down trees, underneath lone cedars, and

607
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: in tall grass boarding food picking apart each particularly promising

608
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: piece of habitat. In a perfect world, by focusing your

609
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: shed hunting time on the top of a property, you'll

610
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: have more time to spend on additional shed hunting area

611
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: is and focus on the top there as well. The

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00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: end result should be a hundred percent of your time

613
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: or close to it spent in high probability locations rather

614
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: than wasting on the low probability sections that comprise most areas. Now,

615
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: of course, all rules are made to be broken, and

616
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: yes I find sheds every year in random locations not

617
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: associated with betting or feeding, but the general trend almost

618
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,719
Speaker 1: always applies. Efficiency is the name of the game when

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00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: it comes to smart and productive shed hunting, and the

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00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: twenty rule can help you achieve it. So those are

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00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: two of the biggest ideas that I keep in mind

622
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: when I go out shed hunting. Number one, timing my

623
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: shed hunting to make sure I'm not going into early

624
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: and I'm not going in too late. And then number two,

625
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: when I do start hitting my spots, I'm efficient. I

626
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: really focus on the highest probability locations now when it

627
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: comes to how to spot sheds, how to pick the

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00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: perfect little locations where there might be one, like underneath

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00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: the cedar tree. All of us have been covered in

630
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: DTA on past episodes and articles, but I want to

631
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: share with you a few more pieces of advice from

632
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: some of our past guests. First off, we've got Dan

633
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: Perez from White Tail Properties, and I want to share

634
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: the segment from our chat with him on episode forty six,

635
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: in which he discusses how he starts his shut hunting

636
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: process each year and the most important places he searches.

637
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: And then finally Dan shares some very unique advice for

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00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: a a special spot you might be able to find

639
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 1: an aniler too concerning the the timing um I worked

640
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: the edges the fields of stuff again, because I don't

641
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: want to push him out. Uh So so when it's time,

642
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: when when the majority the deer have dropped their antlers,

643
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: then I'll answer the timber as well. This way I

644
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: won't push him out by work in the fields. But

645
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: now I'm looking for him in their antlers and their

646
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: bedding areas, and and uh and a lot of other places.

647
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: I look at bedding areas. And I'll tell you the

648
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: best way that I look at is if I'm a

649
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: deer and i'm I'm I'm out all night, okay, and

650
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: now sun the sun is starting to come out, and

651
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: and I catch those first warm rays that are coming

652
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: from the south and from the east. Well, I'm just

653
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: gonna I'm on a bed somewhere where I'm nice and comfortable,

654
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: and that sun hits me because it's been cold all night.

655
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: It's it's winter. Um. So, two places that I key on,

656
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: I like to two key on edge uh. Edge and

657
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: edges is very dominant here because of the the agriculture.

658
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: You know edge um that is on the on the

659
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: south and the southeast side of the edge. I look

660
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: for that quite a bit. I slopes um the side

661
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: of hogbacks or or hills or or or gullies the

662
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: sides where it does two things. It Uh, You've got

663
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: the the south facing slope if there's not if it's

664
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: not heavily timbered, you'll get plenty of sun and it's

665
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: warm and it's comfortable. That's where they bed and that

666
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: the back side of that slope is it breaks the wind.

667
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 1: It's important for them not to have that north wind

668
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: on them. So it serves as two purposes. That's when

669
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: I go into the timber when I'm when I'm in

670
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: the field first, I'm looking at the at the south

671
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: southeast edge is quite a bit. I don't. I don't

672
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: hardly look at the shade side of of stuff very much,

673
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: although I oh I will when I'm driving around. But

674
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: most of the antlers I find will be where the

675
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: where the deer finally bedded after a long night and

676
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: they want to bed somewhere warm, you know, if that

677
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: makes sense to you guys. So so the south facing

678
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: slopes and the south facing edge is a big deal

679
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: for me, and and and and and the other thing

680
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 1: to go along with I think you mentioned something about

681
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: I think about dry bedding. I'm not. I'm not sure

682
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: the context of what you said, but dry bedding is

683
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: really important also because when the snow falls, everything's wet

684
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 1: and you would think that uh uh oak leaves would

685
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: be good, but the oak leaves get pretty muddy out

686
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: out in the timber. I like, I like cedar, think

687
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: it's cride a bit. And maybe that's what you mentioned.

688
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 1: Maybe it was cedars. I'm not sure cedars, pines, anything

689
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: that provides really dry bedding. UM. A lot of people

690
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: plant the warm season grasses on their properties. When those

691
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: grasses fall over, they provide really dry bedding as well.

692
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 1: Those deer, you know, it's cold and then they don't

693
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: really like to lay in a mud puddle. So so

694
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: I I I key on those areas. I try to

695
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: What I try to do is knock out the areas

696
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: that are the hottest spots first. That's that's where I'm going. First,

697
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: of course, the hottest areas UM, and it changes with time,

698
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: is is the the post season food sources, the best

699
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: post season food sources, because you know there's food sources

700
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: that were hot, really hot during hunting season that at

701
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: the end of this, at the post of the season,

702
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: their cold. Maybe that's that was clover, for example, it

703
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: turns dormant as soon as the freeze is there. It's dormite,

704
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: you know. So some of the hotter, hotter food sources

705
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: obviously look for antlers in those food sources and around

706
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: those food sources. So now I could venture into the

707
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: timber around those really hot food sources. That's a that's

708
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: probably my number one um, you know, And I don't

709
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: on this particular topic of timing. I don't know if

710
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: you want me to get into some other stuff, but

711
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: I got some stuff that people don't even think of

712
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: when when hunting antlers. And I could say it if

713
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: it's the wrong timing, well, I hate to. I hate

714
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: to have a cliffhanger here. Now I'm really intrigued for

715
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: let's let's hear that now, and then I've got a

716
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: million other questions now that I'm thinking of as you're

717
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: touch on some of these things. But let's hear the uh,

718
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: the not so commonly thought of antler tips. I have

719
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: found probably more antlers doing this than especially farms, were

720
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: not too many people mess around the ponds. There's years

721
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: where it's not so wet and there's not so much

722
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: snow like there is right now so so water even

723
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: in the winter is not very available. And some of

724
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: the southern regions also it's it's never available. And if

725
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: you have a year of drought um ponds, there's antlers

726
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 1: laying in ponds. If those ponds have never been dry,

727
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: they've never gone dry, and no one's ever done this,

728
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: you may have a wealth of antlers in your pond.

729
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: And what I what I do is I take a

730
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: long pole, very long pole depending on the size of

731
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: the pond, with a rake head on the end of it,

732
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: and UH dragged. In other words, I reached as far

733
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: as I could reach into the pond, and then I

734
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: dragged back towards the shore. And when you feel on

735
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 1: the end of that rake you feel it a little

736
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: bink bink. You know you have an antler on the

737
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: other end. And I and I drag them out, and

738
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: it's kind of cool because you know, like I I've bought,

739
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: I bought a new farm. Let's see, it's it's been

740
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: three seasons now. And the first thing I did was

741
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: dragged the ponds. And I didn't find that many these ponds,

742
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: some of them dried up, but I found fifteen antlers

743
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: by dragging ponds um. And the cool thing about it,

744
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: there's nothing eating those antlers. There's nothing eating them, and

745
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: the water actually preserves them. They'll there'll be a different color.

746
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: There'll be a little little shade of an arm of

747
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: a brownish like not a dark brown, but but kind

748
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: of a medium brown color from being underwater. They've been

749
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: there for a long time. But the antlers still perfectly intact.

750
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: Nothing they don't unlike an antler that's been laying out,

751
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: you know, like here and in the South, squirrels eat antlers,

752
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: Mice eat antlers, they eat them very quickly. In the West,

753
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: where they don't have so many squirrels, in some cases

754
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: no squirrels, and antler may lay there for years without

755
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: being touched. But the antler will it will dry out,

756
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 1: you know, it will kind of bleach out, and and

757
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: and and when you pick it up, there won't weigh anything.

758
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: But the ones that you pull out of the ponds,

759
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,439
Speaker 1: they they'll be perfect, you know, I mean that they'll

760
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: they'll they're they're still have the same amount of maryl

761
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: they're solid, you know. So that that's something that I

762
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: know a lot of people haven't have have not done.

763
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm probably the only one crazy enough to

764
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: try it. You know, you take the cake for the

765
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: craziest most unique shed hunting tip I've ever heard. Yeah. Now, now,

766
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: probably now when we when we acquire a farm, I

767
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: won't be able to find anilers because I'll let it

768
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: out of the bag because and continuing on, we've got

769
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: Joe Shed, an outdoor writer and shed hunting expert. He

770
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: actually wrote a book on shed hunting, and we had

771
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: him on episode one of the podcast. We pulled a

772
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: couple of excerpts from that, and I want to first

773
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: start with Joe tackling the same question that I talked

774
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 1: a little about earlier and the Dan mentioned too, which

775
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: is where do you find the most sheds? But Joe

776
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: has got some specific details which I think are very helpful.

777
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: So here's what he had to stay on that. Well,

778
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: you know, in the simplest terms, I mean, you're going

779
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 1: to be either betting, feeding, or traveling between those two

780
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: areas in the kind of wintertime. So you can kind

781
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: of narrowed down to those three types of things. You know,

782
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: it might be farm fields, it might be uh, haystacks,

783
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: it could be you know, just um, forest brows could

784
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: be the feeding areas, UM, betting areas. UM. It could

785
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: be a good thick cover. It could be some conifers,

786
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: you know, some pine trees or something that provides some

787
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: shelter from the wind catches the snow holds it up

788
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 1: in the branches. UM. But a lot of people don't

789
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: realize too, is that sometimes the best bedding cover is

790
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: a lack of cover. UM. And that's where the south

791
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: facing hillsides come into play. UM. That's always a really

792
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 1: good spot to look for, said, because that's the area

793
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: that gets the most direct sunlight in the winter. And

794
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: you'll find if if you're in a snowy region like

795
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: I live, UM, the north slope will have a lot

796
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: more snow than the south side because the sun's beaten

797
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: down and melting it. And a deer is a lot

798
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: like a cat. Like there's you know, like a cat

799
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 1: in a window soaking up that sunlight. A deer is

800
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 1: going to do the same thing. It's it's trying to survive.

801
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's trying to conserve body heat. And

802
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: a lot of times a little bit on that self

803
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: slope sometimes east slope as well, trying to take advantage

804
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: of that morning sound too. UM. So those are things

805
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: that looked for. I guess in general, UM, you know

806
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: good feeding, good food sources, UM, south slope of hills, UM.

807
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: You know betting areas that might be you know, thick

808
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: cover like pine trees like I said, or thick brush.

809
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: It just kinda depends you focus ever on, like fence

810
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: crossings or creep crossings or I guess where do you

811
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 1: typically find a majority of your sheds? Yeah, well the

812
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: fence and creek thing as you mentioned, I'm sure you

813
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: know is um they're jumping that obstacle of fence or

814
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: the creek and and on impact they can lose on

815
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: the antler UM. And I have found sheds lane right

816
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: and creeks before. Um. Everybody talks about the fence crossing

817
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: have actually when they found very few sheds of fence crossings,

818
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: but they do occur. Um. I guess I don't look

819
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: a lot of along a lot of fence lines the

820
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: fence lines either, but you know most of my sheds um.

821
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 1: And it comes down to the areas I searched to

822
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: where I live, we don't have agricultural fields, so everything

823
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: is looking for us. UM. So then you know your

824
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: your food source really can be pretty much anywhere it's

825
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 1: not a really defined area. So as a shed hunter,

826
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: I kind of am a bed oriented, UM person. I

827
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,320
Speaker 1: look for dear beds. I look for areas where they're

828
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 1: you know, either defined bed in one particular spot or

829
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: maybe like a ridge line where they're going to bed

830
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: all along that ridge. That's kind of how I look.

831
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: And I know I've shed hunter with other people and

832
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: we have we have different styles, and it's kind of

833
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: comes down to what we're used to. Guys are more

834
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: agricultural areas are going to be more likely to you know,

835
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: look those field edges or whatever. And you know, you

836
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: kind of start with what you know, but you should

837
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: be willing to adapt to different situations as well. Right, yes,

838
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: speak like locations. One um on the on the bedding

839
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: area side of things. One kind of randomly popped on

840
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: my head that UM, And I gotta say, Joe, UM

841
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: taking a step back here. When I first got into

842
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: shed hunting, UM, I don't know, eight years ago or

843
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: nine years ago or whatever it was. Now, Um, I

844
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: did pick up your book and I read it and

845
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: it definitely helped me. And I think I read this

846
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: in your book originally, and now I've seen it play

847
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: out in my own lifetime and time again. When you're

848
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: on a hillside or in a forest or something and

849
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: you have like an individual conifer tree, an evergreen tree

850
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: by itself. I've seen so many times that those are

851
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: the spots where a buckle bed and you find a

852
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: shed there, you know, that little cedar tree or something

853
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 1: by itself in some tall grass or something. I always

854
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 1: zoom over to those locations if ever I see one,

855
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: because that seems to be like one of those little

856
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: wild card spots kind of where um, you know, it's

857
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 1: like the spot within the spot, like it's a betting area,

858
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: but then that specific spot within the bedding are tends

859
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: to be that isolated bedding tree or something. Um, do

860
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: you find that kind of thing still too? Yeah? You

861
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: you definitely nail it right on the head. Um, if

862
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 1: I could pick out like my ideal spot to find

863
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 1: a ship, it would be like a one lone conifer

864
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: tree and a hardwood forest on a south slope of

865
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: a hill. You know it's and if you think about it, um,

866
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: if you know trappers are really good at reading the landscape,

867
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: do you think about your own hunting situation? How many

868
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: times have you been walking through the woods where it's

869
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 1: maybe hardwoods or something. There's one big tall white pine

870
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: in that hardwoods, and I guess what somebody's gonna stand

871
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: hanging in that tree. You know, it stands out. I

872
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: mean people relate to it, animals relate to it. You know,

873
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: he'll find uh bones underneath these trees where a fox

874
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: or a coyote is sat there and just chew down

875
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: a bone. I mean, it's something that sticks out from

876
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: the landscape, and it's it's not just dear that pick

877
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,479
Speaker 1: up on. But yeah, you're absolutely right. Those those bucks

878
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: have a out of their way to better than beneath

879
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 1: that lone tree or or just a few scattered pines

880
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: here in the area in an otherwise hardwood forest. Continuing on,

881
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: here's Joe talking about out his advice for how to

882
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: better spot sheds, So not just where to look for him,

883
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: but how to look for them and the best conditions

884
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: when you're out there looking for anlers. What kind of

885
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 1: advice do you have for people to actually help you

886
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: see more sheds and actually spot more sheds, Because it's

887
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: one thing to know where you should be looking, it's

888
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: another thing to actually find them. How do you how

889
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: do you get better at that? Okay, that's a good question. Uh. Well,

890
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: the first thing, and it sounds simple, but I always

891
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: tell people to keep their eyes on the ground because

892
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: the first couple of times that I go out for

893
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: the year, I'll be seeing deer. You know, I'll be

894
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: I'll be in deer hunting moment. I'll be looking, you know,

895
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: three ft off the ground trying to see a deer

896
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 1: when I need to keep my eyes on the ground.

897
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: And it's something you really have to consciously tell yourself.

898
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: I'll go with a budding and he'll be like, did

899
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: you see that rub? And I'll be like, what rubbed?

900
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: Because I wasn't looking at you know. Um, it's not

901
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: that extreme all the time. I mean I certainly rubbed

902
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: and stuff, but you really need to be looking at

903
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 1: the ground. Um, and that's where they're gonna be. Um.

904
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: And it sounds simple, but until you you know what

905
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: people always talk about throwing an antler out and uh

906
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: and looking for or if you're with a buddy and

907
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: he finds a shed, maybe he doesn't touch it and

908
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: you come and find it. And until you kind of

909
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 1: get in that situation, it's it's kind of like catching

910
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 1: a fish until you feel that how a wall I bite,

911
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: then you kind of understand it. And once you find

912
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: that first shed, then something seemed to click, and all

913
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: of a sudden, after that it becomes easier. You know,

914
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: the same thing the first set of the years, It

915
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: always seems to be hard because you're just not in

916
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 1: that zone. And once, once you see it, it clicks

917
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,959
Speaker 1: in your mind and then you start realizing he's like, Okay,

918
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: I'm looking for times sticking up out of the grass,

919
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: and you know, it might not be a whole antler,

920
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:48,720
Speaker 1: it might be something behind the log or burying grass

921
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: or something, and maybe just looking for a couple of

922
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: inches of that time sticking out, and you start to

923
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: kind of train your eyes to see it and develop

924
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: a feel for what you you should really be looking for.

925
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: Do you have there a weather condition that you really

926
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: like to hunt in to shed hunting? Well, you know,

927
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 1: but everybody else says the cloudy days are best because

928
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: you're not squinting, and and after a rain because the

929
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: match down the grass and the leaves and and uh

930
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: makes a little bit of a shine on the amp

931
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: or everybody talks about that, but it is hard to

932
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: look into a in the sunshine. You certainly want to

933
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: keep your the sun at your back if you can. Um,

934
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: I guess I I go whenever I can. But ideally,

935
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: you know, a cloudy day after a rain would be

936
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: the best conditions. You know. Another thing I've I've sometimes

937
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: done and heard other people suggest is trying to find

938
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 1: like different perspectives. Like even if you've walked through an

939
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: area once and it seems like you saw everything, Like

940
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: sometimes it's a good idea to stand on top of

941
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: a stump or kneel down and look around. Do you

942
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: ever do that kind of thing, just to try to

943
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: see things at a different angle or anything? Um? Yeah,

944
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 1: you know a lot of guys talk about walking behind

945
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 1: or looking the ad them once in a while as well.

946
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: And and sometimes you'll see a shed that you walk

947
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: right by them. Maybe the sun was in your eyes,

948
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 1: or there's a branch in your way or something that

949
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: caused you to not be able to see it. Um.

950
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: But sometimes you know, I've certainly found sheds that I've

951
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: walked within feet of and uh, I came back you know,

952
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: on another path through there, just you know, by chance

953
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 1: or whatever, And and here that antlers laying right there

954
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: it was, you know, and it is maybe you know,

955
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: behind a fallen log or something like that. Um, or

956
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: maybe sometimes you just were looking left when you should

957
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: have been looking right, you know. Um, that's another consideration.

958
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: It's how fast you walk. Um, I was trying to

959
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 1: not walk faster than my eyes can see. You know,

960
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: if you're sweeping back and forth left and right with

961
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: your eyes, if you're looking left, you got to make

962
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: sure that you're you're not walking so fast that you

963
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: haven't had a time to bring that vision back to

964
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: the right before you keep moving. And again, if it's

965
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: you know, real open terrain, you can walk a little faster,

966
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: and if it's tight woods you cover, then you can

967
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: need to walk a little slower. Yeah, that's a good point.

968
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: Do you ever do you ever walk a whole property

969
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: or a whole section twice or like come back a

970
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: week later, specifically because of this fact that you know

971
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: you're inevitably probably going to miss some definitely, um, you know,

972
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: especially if you're really looking for a particular shed. Um.

973
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you just flat out miss him, and

974
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: and you'll find a shed that you know, we were

975
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: within a few feet of it before, and somehow you

976
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: just missed it or I mean I've even you know, people,

977
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: it sounds ridiculous, but I'm out there looking for sheds.

978
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 1: I've stepped on sheds, I've kicked sheds and you'd think

979
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 1: you'd see it. But yeah, I'll definitely come back, especially

980
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 1: if there's something I'm really looking for. Um, you know,

981
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 1: and like you were saying earlier, sometimes it's it's a

982
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: good idea to come from a different angle and see

983
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 1: things from a different perspective too, So um or you know,

984
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 1: bring a buddy along and maybe they'll see something in

985
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: a different way that you, you know, something that you missed.

986
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: All right, So we've talked about shed hunting memories and

987
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 1: stories with further You heard from me on the importance

988
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 1: of timing when you start and end shedding. We talked

989
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: about the importance of being efficient, and we heard from

990
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: Dan and Joe in regards to the best spots to

991
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: look for them, the best ways to find them, how

992
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: raking ponds might help you find antlers. That's all we've

993
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: covered here today in my shed hunting master class. I

994
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 1: hope this has been helpful, just a little bit of

995
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: a kickstart for shed hunting season. But I want to

996
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: leave you one last thought. Um, I love finding antlers

997
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 1: right getting out there and seeing that time taking out

998
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: of the grass. Like we talked about earlier, that is

999
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 1: a rush. But it's important to go into shed season

1000
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: with the right attitude, and we talked about we talked

1001
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: about this for years. This applies to hunting too. But

1002
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: if you go into it just determined to have a

1003
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: good time, to have a good walk with your buddies,

1004
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: to laugh, to enjoy each other's company, to enjoy nature

1005
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: and a beautiful day. If you go into it those

1006
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: types of expectations, you're going to enjoy shed hunting. But

1007
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: if you head out there saying to yourself, I better

1008
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: find five antlers today, are better find fifteen antlers today,

1009
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: or better find an antler, And if you don't, you

1010
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: get really disappointed and upset and frustrated and stressed. Well,

1011
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 1: you're just setting yourself up for failure. You gotta just

1012
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: have that positivity and stick with it, but enjoy it

1013
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: for what it is. Some days you'll find some some

1014
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 1: days you won't. But you're outside and that's pretty damn cool.

1015
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 1: So that's all I got to say today and shed hunting,

1016
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: I wish you all luck the The good time should

1017
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: be picking up any day now, so enjoy yourselves. Be

1018
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: safe out there. I hope you find some antlers, and

1019
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: until next time, stay wired to hunt.