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Speaker 1: Michael T and Crockett and the thrill I have experienced

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Speaker 1: and our food source, how we get the foods that

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Speaker 1: so many lessons. This is rife with so many opportunities

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Speaker 1: to myself, if I'm interested in this, if it's thrilling

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Speaker 1: whatever reason. And I just felt, and you'll hear me

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Speaker 1: say every hunting season, Dad gummt, I ought to take

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Speaker 1: so we wanted to help you do that. It's our

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Speaker 1: interview with Ted nugent. We recorded it a few days

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Speaker 1: ago so that we'd have time to put it on

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Speaker 1: the air for you, and I hope you enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: So there's a guy out there and he's an accountant

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Speaker 1: I'm just painting a picture of our listener, and he says,

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Speaker 2: Well, I've got all the answers. I communicate with those

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Speaker 2: kinds of people every day. You know, I just did

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Speaker 2: my six thousand and five hundred and seventy eighth concert. Yes,

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Speaker 2: that's not a typo five hundred and every one of

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Speaker 2: those concerts represents a hangout session, a literal or figurative

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Speaker 2: campfire before the concert and after the concert with working, hard,

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Speaker 2: playing hard Americans. And I'm not kidding when I tell

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Speaker 2: you thousands and thousands of people who would have never

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Speaker 2: or owning guns, I have baptized. Maybe it's maybe it's

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Speaker 2: well into the hundreds of thousands of people who see

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Speaker 2: the spirit the authority of we the people, managing our

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Speaker 2: presser's resources instead of why we left England because the

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Speaker 2: And I'm telling you, Michael, it cleanses their soul. I

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Speaker 2: can't tell you how many people joined me at my

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Speaker 2: Some of them don't start till they're in their sixties,

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Speaker 2: and then they get their kids and grandkids involved, and

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Speaker 2: there is a glow factor. There is an awakening of

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Speaker 2: but that resource steward, that real environmentalist who knows that

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Speaker 2: quality of life comes from quality air, soil, and water,

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Speaker 2: which can only come from quality wildlife habitat. And that's

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Speaker 2: the conservation success story of North America, with more dear,

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Speaker 2: more turkey, more elk, more cougars, more black bears than

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Speaker 2: everyone recorded history, because we the hunting families, know that

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Speaker 2: those precious wildlife resources should always be valuable in the

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Speaker 2: asset column instead of the liability column. Now I can

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Speaker 2: tell you how it becomes a liability when anti hunters

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Speaker 2: asset column as a valuable, balanced resource. Hallelujah. I'm telling you, Michael,

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Speaker 1: Baptized indeed, as a Baptist, I thought, well, that's an

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Speaker 1: interesting use of language because it has a sacred religious tone.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I am, and I couldn't be more proud. Well,

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Speaker 2: we understand that intimidation because government, academia, and the majority

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Speaker 2: production altogether. Now duh, but that's not taught. So yes,

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Speaker 2: because they read my articles. Now, with Facebook, I like

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Speaker 2: thirty three million facebookers right now. If you go to

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Speaker 2: Ted Newton Official Facebook you'll see that there is a

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Speaker 2: self evident truth, common sense logic celebration of harvesting the

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Speaker 2: the world. So read those articles. I write for the

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Speaker 2: Texas Trophy Hunters Journal I have for over a dozen years,

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Speaker 2: Texas Fish and Game. I write for over a dozen

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Speaker 2: I have my Deer and Deer Hunting Blognuge blog. So

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, it really is not intimidating once you

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Speaker 2: realize that it's simple mechanics one oh one, like a chainsaws,

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Speaker 1: Ted Nugent, and Uncle Ted is taking us through why

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Speaker 2: Well, the mourning dove is ubiquitous. I mean it's the

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Speaker 2: National wild Through Confederation. But that mourning dove on September first,

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Speaker 2: hunting doves then all other game combined, I believe, worldwide.

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Speaker 2: Because it's a pleasant weather condition early in the season.

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Speaker 2: It's a family recreational thing with a little grill. You

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Speaker 2: But again I cannot over emphasize the importance of safety.

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Speaker 2: firearm handler negligence. So wherever that muzzle is pointing should

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Speaker 2: even yourself. Muzzle muzzle muzzle, where is it pointing only

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Speaker 2: high it is a turn on, Mike, And I got

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Speaker 2: There's a natural predator in all of us where the aim,

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Speaker 2: get a community slug of ground venison, God knows how

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Speaker 2: some of our neighbors might have mishandled that sacred carcass.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, You're going to put that

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Speaker 2: effort to handle that carcass with reverence. Make sure you

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Speaker 2: you get your meatback. Some butchers will get a one

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Speaker 2: hundred year or more and just start packaging ground benison

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Speaker 2: from who knows which animal. Don't let that happen.

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Speaker 1: More of our conversation with Ted NuGen about hunting and

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Speaker 1: all things outdoors coming up next, The Michael Berry Show.

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Speaker 1: The Michael Berry Show. I'm guessing you've eat more of

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Speaker 1: venison than most people in this country. Do you have

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Speaker 1: a special a special way you prepare, You have a

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Speaker 1: special dish, you make a special addition you make to it?

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Speaker 2: You know, I really do every meal at our home

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Speaker 2: is I use the word sacred because it adequately and

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Speaker 2: properly and responsibly describes how we look at our food

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Speaker 2: we have. We've had a rule in the Newton House

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Speaker 2: since today I was born. Michael, you don't go anywhere

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Speaker 2: near that trash can with your plate with foods on it.

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Speaker 2: Don't you dare throw any food away? And you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. There is a curse, a scourge

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Speaker 2: in this country of waste and disrespect for food and

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Speaker 2: our sacred temples, that we should be putting nothing but

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Speaker 2: good food in proper quantities and purporting portions into our

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Speaker 2: sacred temple. So the ultimate is to get that carcass

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Speaker 2: cleaned properly, get all the body fluids out, rinse it

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Speaker 2: out real good, and get it in a cooler, because

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Speaker 2: how you handle that animal from the death to the

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Speaker 2: table is more important than what happens at the grill.

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Speaker 2: And then once you've got that properly handled carcass, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to tell you there's no bad cuts of meat

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Speaker 2: and there's no bad way to prepare it. We're big

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Speaker 2: on garlic and butter, and we got some great barbecue

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Speaker 2: seasonings from all different establishments, but we use very little seasoning,

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Speaker 2: and we just like fire. We like to put a

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Speaker 2: little fire and singe the outside. I don't care if

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Speaker 2: we're talking ground venison or a quarter shank or the

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Speaker 2: sacred backstraps. We like to singe it while basing it

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Speaker 2: or maybe even marinating it and dipping it some good

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Speaker 2: garlic and butter in your favorite seasoned oils and then

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Speaker 2: just singing it on the outside. So it's still not

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Speaker 2: just red and pink in the middle, but raw in

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Speaker 2: the middle. You just want that meat singed and grilled

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Speaker 2: quick and hot so that the essence of that venison

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Speaker 2: flavor comes out. And let me tell you, Michael, in

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Speaker 2: my travels, all the greatest chefs in the world come

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Speaker 2: out of the kitchen to meet Uncle Ted because they

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Speaker 2: watch our spirit of the loud show and they know

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Speaker 2: that I get it. They know that I not just

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Speaker 2: respect the game that gave us food, I revere it.

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Speaker 2: And that reference should manifest itself at the stove or

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Speaker 2: at the oven, or preferably on the grill with actual coals.

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Speaker 2: But you really can't go wrong as long as you

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Speaker 2: have cleaned that animal properly and aged it at least

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Speaker 2: a few days, preferably a week or so in the

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Speaker 2: proper temperature somewhere between thirty five and forty degrees max.

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Speaker 2: But if you haven't got a walk in cool, you

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Speaker 2: can also bone that carcass and put it in the

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Speaker 2: refrigerator in paper shopping bags, not plastic, but paper shopping bags,

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Speaker 2: or a glass dish with a cover on it. That

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Speaker 2: also is a proper aging procedure.

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Speaker 1: And why is that? Why is the paper important?

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Speaker 2: Well, the plastic I'm not a big fan of plastic

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Speaker 2: any way, shape or form. I do believe that there's

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Speaker 2: some off gassing and that there's some effect it has

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Speaker 2: on food, and so we don't use plastic here. We

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Speaker 2: believe that the European system of hanging those birds in

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Speaker 2: a paper bag. We don't know what the science is

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Speaker 2: behind it, but we know that it works. For example,

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Speaker 2: when we kill pheasants or ground us or doves, we

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Speaker 2: hang those birds in the cooler by the head without

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Speaker 2: gutting them. You do not take the guts out, You

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Speaker 2: do not pluck that bird. You hang it whole for

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Speaker 2: at least four or five days, preferably a weak European system,

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Speaker 2: which has always been wonderful. You hang it by the

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Speaker 2: head till the head rots off, and when that falls off,

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Speaker 2: you know that that meat has broken down all the

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Speaker 2: enzymes properly, and it has been enhanced. And again that's

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Speaker 2: not a weird ted nugent thing. The greatest chefs in

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Speaker 2: the world will tell you that that foul has to

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Speaker 2: be hung, and that herb beifore or bovine has to

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Speaker 2: be hung to have the proper breakdown of enzymes, and

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Speaker 2: various scientific procedures to enhance the ultimate flavor of that meat.

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Speaker 2: You know, all the greatest restaurants in the world they

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Speaker 2: only serve aged beef, right. That's because that enhances the

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Speaker 2: flavor and the overall taste of that sacred flesh. And

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Speaker 2: that's what we do here.

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Speaker 1: So you're not gonna eat the birds you kill that

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Speaker 1: morning that day.

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Speaker 2: Prefer not to. Now, we do have some traditions where

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Speaker 2: we'll I take my little old pocket knife out and

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Speaker 2: I'll carve those medallions right off the breastplate of a

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Speaker 2: dove and we'll throw those on the grill after, you know,

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Speaker 2: dipping them in some good oil and some good seasoning,

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Speaker 2: and we'll singe those dove breasts as a tradition. And

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Speaker 2: that's a great tradition where the families will process that

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Speaker 2: dove breast and wrap it bacon, maybe put a little

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Speaker 2: hall apenion cream cheese inside. Wow, that sounds good, doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: It does.

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Speaker 2: Grill them up real quick, just as a tradition. But

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Speaker 2: if you think that tastes good, do it a week

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Speaker 2: later after hanging those birds. And again, turkey, pheasant, waterfowl, grouse, woodcock, doves,

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Speaker 2: No matter what the fowl, you hang that fowl hole

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Speaker 2: in a cooler, and I'm gonna tell you your taste budge

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Speaker 2: will explode.

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Speaker 1: I have not tried that, but I now know I must.

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Speaker 2: Now you must.

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Speaker 1: Now I know why your best host on Outdoor Channel

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Speaker 1: for nine times.

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Speaker 2: Well, I tell it sixty eight years clean and sober.

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Speaker 2: And when you're clean and sober, you pick up on

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Speaker 2: the good information, you discard the bad information. And I've

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Speaker 2: been very fortunate and blessed to be raised in a

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Speaker 2: hunting family from birth, and so we have a genuine

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Speaker 2: heart and soul reverence for those renewable wildlife resources that

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Speaker 2: bring us such quality of protein, such delicious food. You'll

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Speaker 2: see in my articles in Texas Fishion Game and Texas

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Speaker 2: Trophy Hunters and all the different articles I write every

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Speaker 2: week Deer Anddeer Hunting dot Com. I always refer to

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Speaker 2: the gift of the animal. When you do your job

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Speaker 2: to the best of your ability and you kill that

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Speaker 2: animal cleanly, that is a sacred gift. That is sacred flesh,

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Speaker 2: that is sacred sustenance. It's the healthiest food in the world. Now,

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Speaker 2: let's not end that subject without identifying the self inflicted

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Speaker 2: scourge of political correctness, where all this perfection, that I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about. There are freaks in our society that would

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Speaker 2: ban it, Michael, that would ban two hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: million meals of pure natural on the hoof venison to

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Speaker 2: homeless shelters and soup kitchens. They would ban that, Michael.

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Speaker 1: I'm convinced they would ban anything that we enjoy that

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Speaker 1: has been passed.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, you take enough lsd you smoke enough dope,

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden logic doesn't make any sense to

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Speaker 2: your now destroyed brain. So I've seen that all my life,

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Speaker 2: and we fight against it. But let me tell you,

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Speaker 2: the good still outweighs the bad and ugly in this country.

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Speaker 2: And I know, Michael Barry, that we're gonna have the

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Speaker 2: greatest hunting season of our lives. I promise Sadie Happy

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Speaker 2: that I would.

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Speaker 1: Well, it would be selfish if you kept your joys

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Speaker 1: to yourself, but I love that you share it with

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Speaker 1: so many others, including me and our listeners today. Ted Nugent,

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Speaker 1: thank you as always for being my guest, my.

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Speaker 2: Friend, Michael Berry. God bless you for allowing me to

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Speaker 2: celebrate it on your show. And that just proves that

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Speaker 2: we in the hunting world, we are blood brothers, and

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Speaker 2: we are the ultimate benefit for wildlife in this country.

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Speaker 2: God bless the hunt and fish and trapping families have

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Speaker 2: the greatest, safest, most backstrap infested the hunting season of

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Speaker 2: your lives. Aim small, miss Small, God bless America.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you at the Ranson Buddy Take you cared

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Speaker 1: to be Michael