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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal holl that for me. I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm for.

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Speaker 2: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: be happy. You want to be happy for a day?

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Speaker 1: Edith Steak is that woo whoo? And them and Tie

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Speaker 1: Dan Ruberstein happy off season, my friend, we are back.

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Speaker 2: There is no off season, Tie, Yes, we are back.

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Speaker 1: How you feeling, I'm good? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I got you sell it like in that those two words,

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Speaker 2: you were both assertive and trying to convince yourself that

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you are well. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's I mean, I know it's because we do

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Speaker 1: this show and everybody knows. I'm the Notre Dame fan

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Speaker 1: between the two of us, and I got a lot

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Speaker 1: of those messages. It always cracks me up. You get

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Speaker 1: the text messages, you get the messages on social media.

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Speaker 1: Everybody asks you, how are you, How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: How are you doing? How are you feeling? I'm fine.

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Speaker 1: I didn't play. I wish they would have won. I

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Speaker 1: figured they were going to lose. I like the way

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Speaker 1: they made it tight at the end. At least made

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Speaker 1: a game of it. Sleep did you lose sleep? Did

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Speaker 1: you like what could have been? Oka Rock? The only

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Speaker 1: reason I didn't get a full night's sleep on Monday

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Speaker 1: It wasn't meant to be congratulations Ohio State, But don't

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Speaker 1: send me your condolences. This all sign okay, I.

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Speaker 2: Think there actually is a time to send people condolences

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Speaker 2: with regard to sports and big losses or big moments

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Speaker 2: and a loss. This wasn't a situation of like if

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Speaker 2: not now when for Notre Dame, given the injuries given

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Speaker 2: like it was kind of two thirds of an offense

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Speaker 2: the catch. But this wasn't like this was a three

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Speaker 2: year starter, NFL caliber, top level first round quarterback. This

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Speaker 2: is you know, he's been with these receivers for a

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Speaker 2: set up for Notre Dame. It wasn't that. It wasn't.

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Speaker 2: I don't follow the NFL, but it seemed like it

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's two reasons I have sent this style

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Speaker 1: message to people that I know. The first is when

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Speaker 1: it feels like this was supposed to be a moment

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Speaker 1: of culmination. Everything built to this, as you described, and

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Speaker 1: the window is open. The window might be shut next year.

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Speaker 1: And if they're not going to get it now, when

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Speaker 1: are they ever going to get it right? Sorry to

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Speaker 1: hear that. Hope you're feeling okay after the loss. That's

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Speaker 1: the first one. The second is if you've got a

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Speaker 2: By the way it would have been on the other side,

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Speaker 2: if Ohio State would have lost to you know, Texas

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Speaker 2: in National Championship happens. That's when you would text an

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Speaker 1: But they made it happen. They made it happen, and

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Speaker 1: It's unusual preseason top ten in any poll for Illinois. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: No, but maybe they.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that seems like a good thing to

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Speaker 1: I was unaware that the Cal twitter game was so strong.

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Speaker 1: I was unaware that they were able to mount this

435
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 1: sort of fan led effort to drum up support for CAL.

436
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 1: Went to a bowl game now losing friends. Uh, Fernana Mendoz,

437
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: excuse me. He's going to be playing quarterback in Indiana

438
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 1: next season, so you know, it'll kind of be a

439
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 1: different conversation. In twenty twenty five.

440
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 2: Devin Brown officially signed by the Way with RAL moving

441
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 2: forward from Ohio States.

442
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,840
Speaker 1: I saw that, yeah, so I mean there's there's there's

443
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: going to be some change on the Cal side of things.

444
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: I do hope the calgarithm continues, though. I suspect. As

445
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: long as it's the same group of fans rooting on

446
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: the cal Golden Bears, we get to see a little

447
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: bit more of this next season, and I'm all for it.

448
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, those those Twitter users or ex us or whatever

449
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 2: may now all be on a list though, So let's

450
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 2: pray for the Calgarithm moving forward rooting for you guys. Yes,

451
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 2: and look, they went to Auburn and beat Auburn. They

452
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 2: somehow also lost to Florida State, which is very difficult

453
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 2: to do in twenty twenty four, but they found a way.

454
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Speaker 2: So there was something you know, fun about the Calgarithm

455
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Speaker 2: at all in all moments, and you know, there were

456
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 2: conversations about him on I think Game Day went to

457
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: cal for the Miami game. I believe because of the calgorithm. Yeah,

458
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 2: I think because of the calgorithm. I was pretty good.

459
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 2: I've got another one, tye you ready, I am. I

460
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 2: have it down here. Diego pavia coma ongoing folk hero.

461
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Speaker 2: Is he going to play next year as of now?

462
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 1: Yes?

463
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 2: As of now, there's like the juco injunction to allow

464
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,719
Speaker 2: further eligibility for anil reasons, so I hope it sticks.

465
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:14,919
Speaker 2: I don't know why not okay. Interesting Interesting Vanderbilt Bbama.

466
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 2: Vanderbilt beat an Alabama team that actually wasn't terrible in

467
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: that game. On offense, they just couldn't The Alabama defense

468
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 2: couldn't get off the field because Diego Pavia kept converting

469
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: first downs with his arm and his legs and they

470
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 2: were able to close it out. Defense came up big

471
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 2: in spots for Vandy as well, but for Diego Pavia

472
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Speaker 2: to constantly just come up and you know, whether it

473
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Speaker 2: was beating Auburn, I guess this year and last year

474
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Speaker 2: when he was at New Mexico State, just a winner,

475
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 2: and I can appreciate the ability to drag a team

476
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Speaker 2: to win after win. They closed the gap late against

477
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Speaker 2: Texas in a losing effort, But I don't know. It

478
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,360
Speaker 2: was pretty great that the New Mexico State quarterback who

479
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Speaker 2: I think went to like a that when talking about

480
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 2: junior college, I think he went to a military school

481
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: for post high school year or two. That to go

482
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Speaker 2: from New Mexico State to the SEC and not miss

483
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 2: a beat end up Vandy, what they beat Georgia Tech,

484
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 2: I want to say in a bowl game to finish

485
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Speaker 2: things out.

486
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Speaker 1: That's pretty rad. One of my favorite moments, and this

487
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 1: was more the first half of the year than the

488
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: back half of the year. Announcers who couldn't remember that

489
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Speaker 1: they were supposed to say two minute timeout instead of

490
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: instead of the two minute warning. I have not found

491
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Speaker 1: a good reason for why they are calling it a

492
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Speaker 1: timeout versus warning. There are articles online. I read through

493
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Speaker 1: most of them. I didn't understand any of them. It

494
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: still seems like it's a bit of fuzzy math to me.

495
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Speaker 2: Was it not wanting to like get into the NFL wording?

496
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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think it had something to

497
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 1: do more with their calling a timeout, and they want

498
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: this time out to signify sort of a way to

499
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: avoid back to back commercials on play stoppages. It doesn't

500
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: make any They should just call it a two minute warning.

501
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: That's what everybody's used to calling it. That's what we've

502
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: known it once forever. But whatever, it took a few

503
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 1: weeks for announcers to get this one straight that I

504
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: found pretty funny. I just wanted to throw that one

505
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: on our list. I should also add, just on a

506
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 1: personal level, even though it pained me deeply. Tom Hammick,

507
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: the coach for NIU, being emotional in the manner that

508
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: he was after beating Notre Dame. Right, and then the

509
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: story that came out after the game. You remember what

510
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: story I'm talking about?

511
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 2: Yes, I do that he was gonna was like, all right,

512
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna help Marcus Freeman out.

513
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: He wanted to help Marcus Freeman out. He was willing

514
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: to kind of open up his strategy and talk through

515
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: what he saw on the Northern Illinois side to help

516
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: make Marcus Freeman a Notre Dame better. Do we know

517
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: what that was? I don't know what it was. I

518
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: know people asked him about it and he didn't want

519
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: to comment on it. Like he saw vulnerability in the

520
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 1: Death Star, he saw something and he offered to talk

521
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: to Marcus Streaman about it. I don't know if that

522
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: happened or not, but it is definitely atypical. It is

523
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: not something you're used to hearing. I know all these

524
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: coaches talk in the offseason, most of them know each

525
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: other pretty well, but in the bros of the season

526
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: to kind of offer up this help, whether it's commonplace

527
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: or not, it was as a Notre Dame fan, it

528
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: was definitely one of those moments where I'm like, Okay,

529
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: please take him up on this help because we can't

530
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: have this happen again if we want to make the playoff.

531
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 2: I have USC in exclusive tight fourth quarter games. This

532
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 2: is not intended to be a knock on USC not

533
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 2: always winning these games, because they did sometimes win close

534
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: games when you look at I think it was the

535
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: Nebraska game. They may have been down one heading into

536
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter and pulled it out long, long drive

537
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: down the field. But it was that like it could

538
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 2: be against it's a good team, it could be against

539
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 2: a bad team. It could be against an up and

540
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 2: down team, it could be against an excellent team. And

541
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 2: for instance Penn State USC was just good enough to

542
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 2: be in the thick of it, you know, torching Notre

543
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 2: Dame Corners on their way to like being in that

544
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 2: game late and then it not working out, and there

545
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 2: was the constant cutaways to like a growing in.

546
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: I don't know how to describe.

547
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 2: I was gonna say link even Lincoln Riley's face on

548
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,959
Speaker 2: the sideline as he was like, all right, now we're

549
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: getting into the thick of it.

550
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: What is going to happen?

551
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: He eventually benched Miller Moss in favor in favor of

552
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 2: Jade Mayava, But there was always like, Okay, the end

553
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 2: of the USC game is nearing and it's going to

554
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: get weird. It's going to get frustrating for somebody involved

555
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: in this game.

556
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: We have gone far too long without mentioning Northwestern's temporary stadium. Ooh, yes,

557
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: we were there Week two for the Friday night game

558
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: against Duke. It was awful. The state was great, The

559
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: weather was awful, it was cold, it rained, We left

560
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: at halftime. One more season, one more season, and then

561
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: the new Ryan Field is done. In twenty twenty six.

562
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, are they going to host Orgon in that stadium?

563
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: They are hosting Oregon in that stadium. Michigan is going

564
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: to be at Wrigley, but Oregon's coming to the banks

565
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: of the Mighty Michigan Lake. Michigan is going to host

566
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 2: the Oregon Ducks and Northwestern Wildcats. I think pretty early

567
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 2: on next year.

568
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: That's wild man, You're going to go to that. I'm

569
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: going to that game. Yeah, absolutely, I'm going to be.

570
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: I can't. I mean, they're doing that at the temporary state.

571
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: It's not a big stadium, right, They did a good

572
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: job building it. They did a good job kind of

573
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 1: making it feel like almost a festival, and truly it's

574
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: one of one. Yeah, you're never going to go to

575
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: another stadium like that. It is one of one. It

576
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: is unique and at least the game that we saw,

577
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: whether aside, they did a pretty good job making it

578
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: feel different and unique and fun. Need to work out

579
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: some signage issues that we discussed in the aftermath of

580
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: our experience. Yeah, but beyond that, hosting a big game

581
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: in that stadium this pretty wild.

582
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 2: It's also funny because it's the waste management people, I think,

583
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: who have involved in it somehow, and so they go

584
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: really big with the introduction and light show and music

585
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: and stereo stuff. And it's Northwestern, which I mean it

586
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 2: might it might happen where Northwestern's reputation changes, like the

587
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: college football reputation changes. But like I think it's fair

588
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 2: to say Northwestern's football reputation is defense and offensive linemen. Yeah,

589
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 2: like randomly NFL caliber corners and you know, edge rushers

590
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: and then like a top ten pick at left tackle

591
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: or right tackle or something, and so it's just it's gritty,

592
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: non flashy whatever. Then you go to a game at

593
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 2: this like beefed up high school stadium and it's just

594
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: like handsrans, just like what Okay, cool, they're trying and

595
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

596
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: But yes, it is very much a temp stadium that

597
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: popped up in the middle of the night. But it works.

598
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: It worked. We have not mentioned Travis Hunter yet. Travis

599
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,520
Speaker 1: Hunter win the Heisman Trophy as a two way, genuine

600
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: two way player, played a lot of snaps this year.

601
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: Now going pro in all likelihood going to be a

602
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: top three, top five pick by somebody whoever is looking

603
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: for his services. But Travis Hunter, his ability to put

604
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: a mark on college football just in two short years

605
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: of being at the FBS level in Colorado, it's clear

606
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: they turned him into a superstar in Colorado. He's planning

607
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: on playing both ways in the NFL? Was that? I

608
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: think he's open to it. I suspect it comes down

609
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 1: to who drafts him. Regardless of who takes him, whether

610
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: or not they play him every snap on both sides

611
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 1: of the ball, whether it's just one of those deals

612
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: where he plays primarily as a corner and then take

613
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: some snaps as a slot receiver, various packages, whatnot. That

614
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: I think remains to be seen, but clearly, as a

615
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: proof of concept, he proved that he's got great ball skills,

616
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: could be a wide receiver at a very very elite level.

617
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: He showed that this season obviously won the Heisman, and

618
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: clearly he's got great skills as a cornerback as well.

619
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: So however they choose to deploy him will be fascinating

620
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: I think to watch at the next level. But suffice

621
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: to say, since Charles Woodson, we haven't had, primarily right

622
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: what we view primarily as a defensive player win the

623
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy in a while. That is how Travis Hunter

624
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: was recruited out of high school. Clearly, you know, cornerback

625
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: one of his primary positions, but for him to genuinely

626
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: be a two way player the way he was the

627
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: season to nagu want to win the Heisman, it's you

628
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: just don't find a lot of guys like that. So

629
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: that's a.

630
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: Cool story college football. Egot, that's what it is. He

631
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 2: got right, the Emmy, Grammy, Tony and Oscar. I mean, yeah,

632
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 2: I suspect it'll be like a one point four way

633
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: in the NFL, Like he will play corner and then

634
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: he will be in certain you know packages, if it's

635
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: like a four receiver thing, you know, whatever, three receiver

636
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: like something in the NFL that will showcase his abilities.

637
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's red zone.

638
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's when we are going two

639
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: minute and we're getting more guys on the field. Whatever

640
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: it is, I don't know how you keep that kind

641
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: of skill off the field.

642
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: What do you got? What do you got next?

643
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: Next one, I'm gonna go with Iowa finding an actual offense.

644
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: And I wrote here in a Hopeless Place deal those

645
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: are for all my two thousand and fourteen thirteen I

646
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: Love and a Hopeless Place, Dan Calvin Harris, I want

647
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 2: to say fine in love in a Hopeless Place.

648
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: So it was bye bye. Brian Farrens, who has since

649
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: been hired as a tight ends coach out in Fresno.

650
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: They went a different direction at coordinator. Didn't do I

651
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: don't think anything too far beyond the pale. It was

652
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: a lot of what you'd expect to see from other

653
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: teams running normal offenses. It was a slightly below average offense,

654
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: but from an Iowa standpoint, that was an enormous step

655
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: forward given what we got used to seeing over the

656
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: last decade or so under Kirk Farence. So that in

657
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: and of itself, I think is a pretty cool story

658
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: moving forward. It'll be interesting to see if they're able

659
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: to progress things next season and get a little bit

660
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: more explosive. But they were better. They look, we can

661
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: make the jokes here, but they were absolutely better.

662
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, between Cade McNamara, who is now at I think.

663
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: East Tennessee is Tennessee. Yeah, competing with I think Chriswell

664
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: from North Carolina for that job. That's right, that's right.

665
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: Will Healey new coach at East Tennessee.

666
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, But between him and Brendan Sullivan, who I thought

667
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 2: was pretty good, like kind of ballsy going downfield, and

668
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: of course Caleb Johnson. Sure, maybe you don't have to

669
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 2: over think that. If you have just enough of a

670
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: passing game to keep defenses honest, then you can afford

671
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 2: to give it to Caleb Johnson and get some big

672
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: plays out of it. And their defense didn't fall off

673
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: that much given that they were taking more chances on offense.

674
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: They scored forty two against Wisconsin, forty against Northwestern, forty

675
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 2: against Washington, twenty nine against Maryland. They scored twenty four

676
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: in a losing effort against Miszoo in that tight game.

677
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 2: In the Bowl game, thirty one against Minnesota.

678
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: Like I don't know. Sometimes scoring thirty points can be good.

679
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: It can't be Iowa. It can be good, all right?

680
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: BYU Dan Yeah, BYU pick to finish fourth last in

681
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve, ends up going eleven to two. They

682
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:49,879
Speaker 1: beat a college football playoff team nearly too, almost beat ASU. Yeah.

683
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: And then of course so it was my dog barks.

684
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 1: Here we had Jake retz Lef, who you know, had

685
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: a incredible season this past year. He's going to be

686
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: back again next season. He's got the il deal with

687
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: men of Chevitz. It's like everything clear up. Jake retzlif

688
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,919
Speaker 1: and BYU again. BYU offensively didn't fit neatly into any

689
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: of the boxes that I think we have, but they

690
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: played fundamentally sound football, and obviously they had a really

691
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: successful campaign, winning eleven games. So hats off to Killani's.

692
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 2: Stock stomped Colorado and I think the Alamobile as well.

693
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: Thirty six to fourteen final. There, so huge turnaround here

694
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: for BYU. My next one is, and this I know

695
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: people with the context of the playoff, was how people

696
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 2: are thinking about them.

697
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: You know.

698
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 2: In December January, South Carolina getting nearly to ten wins

699
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 2: with basically an untackleable first year quarterback who wears glasses.

700
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: Which I always got the rest watching this on YouTube.

701
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: Go and rexpec and two just like angry cyborg edge rushers.

702
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 2: Now there are more dudes on this team that contributed

703
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 2: and that were great and Rocket Sanders all that, but

704
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: at the core of it, it was South Carolina beating

705
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: Clemson because thirty seven different Clemson defenders couldn't tackle Lenoras

706
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: Sellers at the end of that game, and that they

707
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 2: have these two crazy dudes on the edge that gave

708
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 2: every single offensive tackle fits and with whatever holes the

709
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: offense and the defense had, it didn't matter as much

710
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: because Lenora Sellers could pick up a first down and

711
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: pick up huge plays both with his arm and his legs.

712
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: And you just have these terrors on the edge making

713
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 2: teams uncomfortable constantly. And so South Carolina another one of

714
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: those teams are just like down year after down year,

715
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: the end of like the year of cup Birth, I

716
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 2: guess three years ago now with Spencer Ratler was promising,

717
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 2: but you know, it seemed that they were a program

718
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: that whenever things appeared to be heading in a good direction,

719
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: the bottom fell out. And I don't think there was

720
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: a ton of hope coming into this year that it

721
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 2: was going to be all that different because of the

722
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 2: unknown quantity of Lenora's sellers. They were crazy fun, winner

723
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: lose all year long.

724
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: Did you mention UNLV yet?

725
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: Have I mentioned UNLV just within the context of Kansas

726
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 2: but not specific to UNLV?

727
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: How easy it is to forget about how weird that

728
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: Matt Sluka thing was. Yes, did he declare where he

729
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 1: is going next? He's joining Bob Chesney and James Madison.

730
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 1: There we go. The UNLV story, though, was pretty wild

731
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: because for a hot minute, UNLV was like our playoff

732
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: team du jore sure coming out of the G five,

733
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: and that circumstance was weird. With Sluca, oh, he was

734
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: pretty good, obviously, showed flashes. For him to walk away

735
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: mid season definitely sucked. It was a horrible situation, But

736
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: then they were even better. I think with Hodgemena League Williams.

737
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: Shout out Campbell Campbell's Yeah, shout out Campbell Campbell.

738
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: They found a way to kind of rebound from that.

739
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: It seemed as if the team rallied around Hodgemena League

740
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: Williams in a way that maybe they didn't. Sluka and

741
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: UNLV went on too a hell of a campaign as well.

742
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 1: They obviously did not get to the playoff, They did

743
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: not win their championship. They lost to Boise State on

744
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: two separate occasions. But all that to say, I just

745
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: thought the way they rebounded from what was a peculiar

746
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: thing we don't see a lot of in college football

747
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: and then seemingly got better was a cool story. The

748
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: other thing I'd add now is so Bury Odom left,

749
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: Buriodam going elsewhere, going to Purdue right, And now we're

750
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: going to have Dan Mullen coming out of retirement, out

751
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: of the ESPN booth, going to be taking over in UNLV.

752
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: So what that offense looks like, if it looks all

753
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: that different, remains to be seen. But I think he's

754
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: geared up and ready to go after a few years

755
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: away from the game. I'm curious to see how that

756
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: shakes out in the Mountain West.

757
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 2: What Harold Fannin about Harold Fannin bowling green, tight end,

758
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 2: large receiver, whatever you want to call him, being an

759
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: unstoppable force of nature, not just against teams that they

760
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 2: played on their max schedule, Penn State and Texas A

761
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 2: and M two of the probably twenty best defenses in

762
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 2: America that he ran rough shot over. And then in

763
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 2: the bowl game Bowl Season Winter Wonders, we set his

764
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: catch total at like eight and a half, yeah, eight

765
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: in the bowling.

766
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: Grade at eighteen, undershot it by just a little bit. Yeah.

767
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 2: I love the smaller school guys against whoever, are so

768
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: unstoppable that the word I really like is undeniable. And

769
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: I remember, look, this happens all the time that you know,

770
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 2: a small school kid goes on to become like an

771
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 2: NFL Hall of Famer. It doesn't mean that we should

772
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: always be looking at you know wherever, uh you know,

773
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: Khalil Mack, you know, playing at Buffalo. We shouldn't be

774
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 2: looking at those schools like closer because if you're good,

775
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 2: everybody's going to find you. But those situations were like

776
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 2: was it against Ohio State. I want to say that

777
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 2: Khalil Mack was like he had nine tackles, were lost,

778
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 2: three sacks, two forced fumbles, seven tips. It was I

779
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 2: think it was Khalil Mack against Ohio State. You're like, well,

780
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: if he's doing this Tohio State, he's probably an NFL

781
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 2: player and was the NFL good Yeah, Yeah, it was

782
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: like he filled up the stat sheet in a crazy

783
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 2: way against Ohio State. So Harold fan in doing that

784
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: against Penn State and Texas A And I'm you're just like, well,

785
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: if those if Mike Elko and James Franklin can't figure

786
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 2: out something to stop this dude, he's a guy, and

787
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 2: he was all year long.

788
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: We've only got a couple more here that I want

789
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: to make sure we call out. The Oklahoma and Kentucky situation, Yes,

790
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: was frustrating to say the least. I mean, I spent

791
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: a fair amount of energy talking up Kentucky in the preseason,

792
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: and I don't think I was quite as high on

793
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: Oklahoma as some others. I had questions, but I didn't

794
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: expect it to look like this. I really didn't. It

795
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,959
Speaker 1: was just not a good campaign. Oklahoma was just consistently

796
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: injured week in week out, especially out wide, but them

797
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: being some combination of bad. Having like so many injuries

798
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: but yet still finding ways to pull stupid upsets was

799
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: almost the epitome of college football in twenty twenty four.

800
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 2: There was a it was a really good year, and

801
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 2: maybe the every years like this, I don't know. I'm

802
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 2: just reflecting on the twenty twenty four season. Like look,

803
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 2: the year was a disaster, but at least so between

804
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: Michigan beating Ohio State, Oklahoma beating Alabama, UH Kentucky beating

805
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 2: Ole Miss, Washington State beating Washington in the Apple Cup,

806
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: after being left out of major conference football, losing their

807
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 2: quarterback obviously after the season, losing their coach Dickert, heading

808
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 2: to Wake Forest, but sort of being left for dead

809
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 2: by a team in their own state and going to

810
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 2: Seattle I think it was Quest Field or wherever it

811
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 2: wasn't the actual Husky Stadium and John Matteer running roughshot.

812
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: And that's like a sub item too. John Mattier like

813
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 2: just like thrown into this job. As you know, he

814
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: was cam Ward's backup, not thrown in, but you know

815
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 2: it was his turn. And as soon as he gets

816
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 2: his turn to play major college football, his team is

817
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 2: left out of a conference like dealt a bad hand

818
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: and yet and loses I think one of the two

819
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: best receivers to Texas Tech. Yet he becomes the hottest

820
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: quarterback in the transfer portal and ends up at Oklahoma

821
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 2: the aforementioned Sooners.

822
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: So that's right there, there was.

823
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 2: It was an especially good year for a team that

824
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 2: was like catastrophically bad at times. Maryland beat USC, right,

825
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: you're gonna rush the field. Season's kind of a nightmare.

826
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 2: Was that was that Maryland's only win in the Big Ten?

827
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: It feels it. I think it was.

828
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 2: A very good year for hilarious silver linings to bad seasons.

829
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: A couple other ones here on the list. We had,

830
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: let's see, oh, Baylor's offense suddenly getting good. Yes, didn't

831
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: start out that way, but Baylor I think turned in

832
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: in the year. Robertson, Yeah, decent offensive effort.

833
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: How about TCU, Both Bail and TCU with really nice

834
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: bounce back years. TCU very quietly got to I think

835
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 2: nine wins after bowl season, which is just sort of

836
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 2: improving to them like they should be an eight nine

837
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: ish win program at this point. Now the Big Twelve

838
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: is more chaotic, but you're also losing Texas and Oklahoma,

839
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 2: so perhaps there is room for more security at or

840
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 2: near the top. I don't think right now in the

841
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 2: Big twelve you can be like, here is going to

842
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 2: be the annual hierarchy, Like one of these two teams

843
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 2: is probably can't say that, like ASU is super well

844
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: positioned moving forward. But there's a lot of quality in

845
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,280
Speaker 2: the Big Twelve. I don't know if it's top tier quality,

846
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 2: but there's enough that going into a year you can

847
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,439
Speaker 2: say like, yeah, there's five or six teams easily who

848
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 2: could you could see winning this conference.

849
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: I've got something here on the list that I think

850
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: is a pretty good example of the emotion in college football,

851
00:44:55,360 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: and that is that Jackson Dart game against Florida. OK So,

852
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: not a positive thing, not a positive, not a positive thing,

853
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: but Jackson Dart throwing two interceptions late, having sort of

854
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: an emotional meltdown on the sidelines as they lose to Florida. Yeah,

855
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,720
Speaker 1: obviously you don't want to throw interceptions if you're Jackson Dart.

856
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: But Jackson Dart, I think, is known for wearing his

857
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: heart on his sleeve, and so he cares, you know,

858
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: he cares, clearly he wishes it would have gone better.

859
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: But that, to me was something I think of immediately

860
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: when I think of what happened this past season. I

861
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: just thought that was like a really interesting moment in

862
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: college football. And then, as sort of a sub point

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Speaker 1: with miss emotion, how about the Lane Kiff and Twitter

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Speaker 1: meltdown at season's end. I know you say a lot

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Speaker 1: of that non playoff things, but Rank Kiffin just sort

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Speaker 1: of became a fan, right, became a super fan in

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Speaker 1: that moment, and did not shut up on Twitter, just

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Speaker 1: kept going. He might still be going and we're beyond

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Speaker 1: the national championship now. Lane kiff had a lot to

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Speaker 1: say about Old Miss, about the SEC, about pretty much

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Speaker 1: everything with respect to his team not getting in the playoff.

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Speaker 2: It's a calculated risk from Lane Kiffen that the risk

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Speaker 2: being that SEC teams in the playoff and outside of

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Speaker 2: the playoff need to acquit themselves in such a way

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Speaker 2: that like, yes, of course I'm right, of course I'm

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Speaker 2: right taking this stance. And then with South Carolina losing

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Speaker 2: to Illinois the way that they did, with Alabama losing

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Speaker 2: to Michigan the way that they did during bowl season,

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Speaker 2: with Tennessee losing the way that they did early on

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Speaker 2: in the playoff, Georgia losing to Notre Dame, it just

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Speaker 2: wasn't a great postseason playoff or non playoff for the SEC.

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Speaker 2: And it's the closest I've ever felt to Lane Kiffen

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Speaker 2: that literally anybody can be wrong about college football, no

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Speaker 2: matter how close you are to the sport that you

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Speaker 2: can take a hard stance and then quietly have to

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Speaker 2: stop taking that stance as you're proven incorrect.

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Speaker 1: It's great. Let us know if there's anything that we

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Speaker 1: missed off of our list, it is not, by the way,

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Speaker 1: on that token, I know what you're saying. On that token.

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Speaker 1: Did you see Matt Rules tweet today? Today? No? Today?

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Speaker 2: So Matt Rule tweeted out? So he had he had

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Speaker 2: given a press conference that basically said that, like the

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Speaker 2: road through the Big Ten is the hardest in college football.

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Speaker 2: I'm paraphrasing here, but that you know, there's nothing like it.

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Speaker 2: How difficult the Big Ten is week in and week out.

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Speaker 2: And Paul Finebaum mocked that when he said that. I

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Speaker 2: think it was before the season or middle of it

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Speaker 2: was at some point before the playoff whatever. And then

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Speaker 2: somebody at Nebraska maybe Matt Rule is just like deep

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Speaker 2: in the final cut game. I don't know, somebody cut

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Speaker 2: that against after the National championship, Paul fine Bomb going on,

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Speaker 2: oh it was get up or something, saying like, I

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Speaker 2: don't know how you can say otherwise, but the Big

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Speaker 2: Ten is the king of college football, and he like,

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Speaker 2: I think there was an Alan Jackson, like a two

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Speaker 2: second clip of an Alan Jackson songs like Rememberable, Sure,

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Speaker 2: Matt Rule, Internet, Troll, Internet, great with it?

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Speaker 1: Good stuff all right. Now, on that note, if there's

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Speaker 1: anything we missed on our list, that's on yours right

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Speaker 1: insoliverble at gmail dot com or hit us up on

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Speaker 1: social media. Again, this is not an all inclusive list,

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Speaker 1: but it is just some sampling of the things that

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Speaker 1: got us going. Non playoff items. Were there any?

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Speaker 2: Were there any like like super esoteric things other than

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Speaker 2: kickers and the two minute timeout, anything like that, calgarithm,

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Speaker 2: anything else that was very specific to twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: I'm putting you on the spot here because we have

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Speaker 2: a Google doc that you could have added it to.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a pretty.

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Speaker 2: Good year for puke, so we had a title game.

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Speaker 2: We saw Riley Leonard after that first drive, we didn't

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Speaker 2: see it. We've seen it a couple times that somebody

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Speaker 2: caught in a replay, like a defensive lineman quickly puking

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Speaker 2: before an attempted red zone stop. I want to say

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Speaker 2: there was something. It either happened or was close to

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Speaker 2: happening with Pat McAfee and Ireland and like a pub

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Speaker 2: that he was doing a show and either had to

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Speaker 2: like boot and rally or was just like really feeling it.

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Speaker 2: It was a good year for puke in college for.

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Speaker 1: A good year for that was not something I had

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Speaker 1: on the bingo card. But okay, I'll take your word

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Speaker 1: for it. Right in solid verbal at gmail dot com,

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Speaker 1: let us know what we got right, what we got wrong.

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Speaker 1: I've got a dog that's biting at me at peak.

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Speaker 1: That's okay. My apology is to anybody who was distracted

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Speaker 1: by the little white fluffball barking behind me and trying

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Speaker 1: to wrestle the other dog here. But alas, thank you

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Speaker 1: for tuning in, Hit follow, hit subscribe if you have

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Speaker 1: yet to do so, we will be with you all

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Speaker 1: off season long. Just keep it right here on the

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Speaker 1: solid Verbal and of course leave a rating, leave the

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Speaker 1: star review. All that stuff helps make sure that other

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Speaker 1: people can find what we are doing, Dan Rubinstein.

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Speaker 2: Yes, especially if you like college football and samoy its.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is cheer hole of my carpet.

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Speaker 1: This is why I was freaking out back here. You

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Speaker 1: chewed a hole of my carpet behind me. I should

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Speaker 1: have left them upstairs, but that's that's fine. That's an

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Speaker 1: unforced are on me. Mark me down for a turnover.

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Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure to be with you for the

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Speaker 1: last hour or so, though I will see the best

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Speaker 1: as always for that guy over there, my good friend

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie hilden Brandt for this dog

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Speaker 1: biting at my elbow. We'll talk to y'all soon. In

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Speaker 1: the meantime, stay solid, peace,