1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,559 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 3: Welcome to move the sixs, DJ, Bucky and Rhett back together. 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 2: Buck. 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 3: I don't know if Fred will ever stop wearing Indiana 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 3: gare unless they lose a game. I don't know that's 7 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 3: gonna happen at this point. It's a tradition, like I 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 3: got to keep it rolling. 9 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 2: I mean, look between what they're doing on the field 10 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: and Mendoza being a guy that we're gonna have to 11 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 2: talk about if he declares for the draft, it's gonna 12 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: be a lot of I used to just a lot 13 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: of who, a lot of just a lot of who 14 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: you love just going around. So I'm making peace with 15 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: being able to see the Crimson cream over and over 16 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: and over again. 17 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, get used to it, man. We have our rookie 18 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 3: stuff coming up here. In a minute, we'll get to 19 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 3: the rookie Draft. We also have our Coordinator of the Week, 20 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 3: which we'll hit, and then a big higher in college football, 21 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 3: which was talk about a quick turnaround for James Frankment. 22 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 2: We'll get to that and just a little bit as well. 23 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: But I I want to have this quick conversation with 24 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: You had this one on a show the other day, 25 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 3: and it's a conversation I've had with somebodies around the 26 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 3: league on the coaching side of things. And you know, Buck, 27 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 3: I think we've had this before, but I'd love to 28 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: love you get your take on it again, and just 29 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 3: from from doing these college games and you're seeing successful 30 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 3: teams and obviously they all do it different ways, but 31 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 3: this was this is the construct of the argument here 32 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: or the debate. Are you better off like trying to 33 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 3: have the variety and the snowflake nature of an offense 34 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 3: or defense to be able to morphine, change and to 35 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 3: challenge and to give you different looks each and every week, 36 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 3: or are you better off? Simple simon, we do what 37 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: we do and you're going to have to try and 38 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: stop it, and we know and we're not going to 39 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 3: give you any bus. You know, defensively, offensively you can 40 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: know what's coming. We can still execute you. Buck, Why 41 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 3: don't you hit us off on that one, because it's 42 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 3: a real fascinating discussion. 43 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: It's funny as you say that, because DJ, like, one 44 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: of the things I love doing is looking at the 45 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: great coaches over time, and some of this has come 46 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 2: from like the pro football things. So you talk about 47 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: the Vncelambardies, the Don Shulers, and those guys would tell 48 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 2: you that it's better to do what you do and 49 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 2: master it, Like Vince Lombardi would tell you that he 50 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: simplicity is everything. Repetition, master it, and then just be 51 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 2: great at it because we do it far more than 52 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: you can prepare for it. So when we match up, 53 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: we're going to do it better than you. I fall 54 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 2: into that camp. I would rather the guys know exactly 55 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: what they're doing, don't try and trick them and use 56 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: gimmicks in those things, line up, play and make execution everything. 57 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: So I'm into that. I think it's too hard to 58 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: have a bunch of guys that can change each week 59 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: with new schemes. I would rather them settle in and 60 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: let the repetitions lead to great execution down the lot. 61 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: I fear not the man who practices ten thousand kicks, 62 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: for the practices kick ten thousand times great person lead 63 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: quote yes indeed, and might as well be a Phil 64 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: Parker quote defensive coordinator at Iowa, because yes, Max Llewellen 65 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: is going to line up at left defensive end on 66 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: every snap. 67 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: You can hurt it. 68 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: It's going to line up at right defensive end on 69 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: every snap. Same with the corners. It's almost like Peyton Manning, 70 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne, and Marvin Harrison running offense right. They're gonna 71 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: be on one side and they're going to know what 72 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: they're doing. And I think that I think there is 73 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: something to be said for that. But it also has 74 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: to be the DNA of the head coach. It has 75 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: to be the way that you want your program run. 76 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: If it also has to be you have to commit 77 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: to a developmental program, to a developmental pipeline. If you 78 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: can't win that way, if you don't have the personnel, 79 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: if you don't have the coaches to develop like you're 80 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: going to be have to. You have to turn it 81 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: over with personnel and with scheme each week to try 82 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: to maximize you know, what you got out there. So 83 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: I do. I don't think it's hard and fast one 84 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: way or the other. But I think I mean, like, 85 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: look at look at the consistent success of Kirk Ferns 86 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: at Iowa. I think it's like one of the one 87 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: of the greatest. You can say what you want about 88 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: lack of excitement on offense and whatever, but I think 89 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: Tim Luster has actually done a really nice job there. 90 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: I just I think there is something to be said 91 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: for that, because those guys that go into that IOWA program, 92 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: like this kid, Zach Lumer, who's basically Cooper dejen Light, 93 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: which will actually tie in nicely with our defensive coordinator 94 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: discussion coming up here. You know, the guy had been 95 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: in the program for three years before he started. How 96 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: often you say that in college football now rare? It's rare, 97 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: But he's really good when he gets into the lineup, 98 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: he knows what he's doing, he's been practicing it. It's 99 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: time on task, and I just I think that's really important. 100 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: I think you could even say that for a team 101 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: like USC, like you better believe they're gonna run counter 102 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: because it's kind of who they become that two Lincoln 103 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: Riley's become and they've gotten really good at it, and 104 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: so like, I think there is something to be said 105 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: for that. But I think I can also see it 106 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: the other way, like where you're trying to do whatever 107 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: you can to get the best product on the field. 108 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 3: So this arose from a conversation I have with Rock 109 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 3: Huery brought you were to ask Mike McDonald this, you know, 110 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 3: because think about them, they've been in that market in 111 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: Seattle and they've seen Pete Carroll cover three. We're doing 112 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: what we're doing and we're going to play it and 113 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: there's not much mystery to what we're doing. 114 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 2: And they've been dominant. And then Mike McDonald comes a 115 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: little more. 116 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 3: You get a little more variation with what you're doing. 117 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: So his whole thing was where where do you fall 118 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 3: on that? And he said, it's a sliding scale. You know, 119 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 3: it's you know, I don't know that. 120 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: He said. 121 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: Now, if if you're trying to have the perfect call 122 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: to stop every single play, he said, you're going to 123 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: have sometimes some plays some games, or you're going to 124 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 3: be unbelievably dominant because you have the perfect thing to 125 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 3: counter what they're doing. He said, in the other games, 126 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 3: you're going to look terrible because you're gonna you know, 127 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 3: you're going to be wrong. And then you know it's 128 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,559 Speaker 3: just and they're trying to be Are you too simple? 129 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 3: Are you too complex? It's that sliding scale and finding 130 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: where you are. But I was just thinking about it 131 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 3: because you mentioned the Colts Red. Yeah, you know that was, Hey, 132 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: we don't motion, we line up and we run what 133 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 3: we run. 134 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: Guys are where, you know, and it's it's that precision. 135 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 3: I think about the Cowboys the nineties, they ran their 136 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 3: buck played against some that was the three or four 137 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 3: run plays. This is what they do and they're going 138 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: to physically dominate you. But I'm looking at take this 139 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: week and I'm watching the stuff Mike McDaniel's doing and 140 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: how creative that was in the run game like it was. 141 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: It was fun to watch all the different things they 142 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 3: were doing in the eye candy and they were cashing people. 143 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: I look at Ben Johnson, who's got one of the 144 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 3: hottest teams in football right now in the Chicago Bears, 145 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 3: and all that he gives you to think about with 146 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 3: the variety and the variation to what he does, the creativity. 147 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: So I just think it's interesting you. 148 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 3: Kind of I've always looked at it going back to 149 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: my time in Baltimore Buck, which was man. We had 150 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 3: the guys on defense and it was like, we don't 151 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: just line up and make them block us like that. 152 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 3: You know, we can lock up on the outside. We 153 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 3: don't need to do any of that stuff. And it 154 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: would get frustrating sometimes when I felt like we did 155 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 3: get a little too complex or complicated, like this isn't 156 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: Princeton versus Georgetown here, like we don't have to we 157 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 3: don't have to do anything crazy here. This is line 158 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: up and let these guys play. But there are different ways. 159 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 3: I don't think what I'm getting as I don't think 160 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 3: there's the one way versus the other ways right and wrong. 161 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: So it's funny, right, So I'm taking notes and I'm 162 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 2: thinking about this, and I'm thinking about it from a 163 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: collegiate standpoint. I think it's understanding who you are and 164 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: where you are in the pecking order of programs in 165 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 2: terms of the number of players that you can get. 166 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: So when Rent brings up Iowa, my eyes naturally go 167 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 2: to Army because of my relationship with there, and I 168 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: think about the old Wisconsin when you're not able to 169 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: get all the five stars. I think there's a saying 170 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 2: where they talk about be better or be different, And 171 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 2: so if you're not better personnel wised, then you have 172 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: to be different in terms of either what you're doing 173 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: and how you do it, but you have to do 174 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: it so well that it becomes an advantage. So that's 175 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: one thing. Then there's another thing, which you can say 176 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: with five stars of well, if I'm better than you, 177 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: I ain't got to trick you. I just let them 178 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: give the ball to my best players. And so there's 179 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 2: this fine line between you have to know who you are, 180 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: who you're always going to be able to recruit and 181 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: bring it to the program, what their capacity to learn is, 182 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: and then I think you have to understand the coaches 183 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: that you have because the Mike McDonald thing, as they 184 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 2: told me about, They actually told me that when he 185 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: went to Baltimore, he simplified a lot of the concepts 186 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: because they were so whatever that he tied them together. 187 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: And then from a teaching standpoint, he taught conceptually, meaning hey, 188 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 2: this is the concept, we'll change the personnel. But everyone 189 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 2: has to understand it. But man, it takes great teachers 190 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: to be able to present the information like that and 191 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: to get the players to retain it. So there are 192 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: a lot of factors that go into how your program 193 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 2: is going to be. But I see the pros and 194 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: cons of both ways. But it kind of seems like 195 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 2: all those things go back to simplicity, repetition, mastery. 196 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 3: It's kind of straight that you have to do it mastery. 197 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 3: So I'm intrigued by signetty and I haven't got to try. 198 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 3: I know you guys are visitor with them. You know, 199 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 3: I'm obvious with value connections. But how would you describe 200 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 3: what they're doing or where they fall on that scale. 201 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: I would say that there are a healthy mix there 202 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: because on defense will run some stuff now, and I 203 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: think it's because they have guys who have been in 204 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: the system for a long a bunch of smartness, smart dudes, 205 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: and they understand like it's you know, like just on 206 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: the defensive example, like they are a have it creating defense. 207 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: They are not worried about you got to be here, 208 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: this d lineman's got to be here, and you know 209 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: you're in a four eyne year. You've got to be 210 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: a just go. And then the linebackers are smart enough 211 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: and they have good enough instincts to make everybody right. 212 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: And they I mean they look, they do a bunch 213 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: of simulated pressures. They'll give you a bunch of different looks, 214 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: and like they are doing some some pretty complex stuff, 215 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: like I would say, more so than you would see 216 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: from let's say in Iowa. But I think it's also 217 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: a matter of philosophy that has been developed with that 218 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator Brian Haynes, who should win the Broils Award 219 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: and should probably be a head coach here at some point. 220 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: But offensively, I think they've adapted really well. Like I 221 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: remember a Signetty telling a story where he was back 222 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: get Elon I want to say, and he's like, boy, 223 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: we got our butts kicked by Slippery Rock. And I 224 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I something's not right, this 225 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: thing's not working anymore. Let's go back to the drawing board. 226 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: Figure this thing out. That's when they started to integrate 227 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: the RPO a little bit more. And then when Tino 228 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: Sincerity came over and joined them at James Madison, he 229 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: brought another element to the RPO game that kind of 230 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: took the offense to another level that they continue to 231 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: evolve now. And it's just again, those guys have been 232 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: with him forever. Mike Shanahan's been with him for ten years, 233 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: Brian Haines been with him for ten years. They know 234 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: each other, they know what they do well. So there's 235 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: your time on task, which allows you to maybe add 236 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: some more complex things to each scheme because of the 237 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: trust that you have there. 238 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: And it goes back to the Iowa stuff. So, like 239 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: you said about Io, when the coaches and the people 240 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 2: of Matt leaving and the continuity and coaching staff and 241 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 2: the trust that is built, where hey, this is what 242 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 2: we do, this is how we operate. There's this inherent 243 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: thing that even when Iowa those teams are rebuilding, they 244 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: still play you close because there's so sound in what 245 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: they do that it's a very tough dout. Yeah, and 246 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: there's some years where, man, the best version of Iowa 247 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 2: maybe eight and four, But every game they play, they 248 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: make people play their style. And to me, that's what 249 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: I love about college football is the great coaches. They 250 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 2: can lure you into that trap when you look up 251 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, man, in this game with Iowa, 252 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: where we look at our talent, we should be better 253 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: than But because they know the system, they know exactly 254 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 2: the leverage points of offense and defense, where they're vulnerable 255 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 2: and where they're strong at they stick to the script 256 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: and that's why they're able to win. 257 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: How do you think Organ felt after playing Indiana? I mean, 258 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: it's a more talented team. I mean, let's just be 259 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: straight up honest about it. Right, If you go buy 260 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 1: you know the each player and where they were ranked 261 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. But there are certain 262 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: certain equalizers. And just to your point there on Iowa, 263 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: I mean all four of their losses have been one 264 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: possession games. To rank teams, yeah, well they have their identity. 265 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: Their identity is there's no gifts. We're not going to 266 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: give you the ball. We're not giving you the ball. 267 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: We're not gonna we're not going to blow coverages and 268 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: give up you know, huge plays. You got to beat us, 269 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: And that's kind of how they've But. 270 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 2: It looked like, let's say, last week, as I have 271 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: for the Charges, right, you've seen how the Chargers have 272 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 2: re emerged as a team that's a heavyweight in the NFL. 273 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,559 Speaker 2: Basically by doing that, if you don't turn the ball over, 274 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: you don't give up big plays, your sound in all 275 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 2: three phases. You eliminate your penalties or reduce them as 276 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 2: much as possible. Man, there are a lot of games 277 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: that you would just win because the other team gives 278 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: it to you. And I think that's the stretch right now. 279 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: To win a championship, it requires a little more, but 280 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: that always gets you into the good category and then 281 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 2: the talent takes you from good to great when it 282 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 2: comes to being a championship caliber team. Well, that was 283 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 2: a that was a fun discussion. No, that's good. 284 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 3: Thanks to my buddy Brock on that one, because it 285 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 3: was a great question he posed, and I think it 286 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 3: is a fascinating conversation. All right, let's get to the 287 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 3: rookies and then we'll take a pause here. Last week, 288 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 3: unfortunately Buck Rhett gosh right back on the course. Traveon 289 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 3: Henderson just went nuts. So he got seven points. 290 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: Uh. I feel like there's some miss out of trading 291 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 2: though Travian Henderson thing the New England ties like like 292 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: there's a I feel like there's a I had him. 293 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: He did it well for me the week before. That's why, 294 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: DJ you broke him out for us. You broke him 295 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 2: here in the wild Horse, you broke him. 296 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 3: Uh I did So Buck got a point. I got 297 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 3: four points. So yeah, Buck, Buck, we're you're chasing ten. 298 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 3: Buck Rhet's forty eight, You're thirty eight. I'm forty six. 299 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: So it is what it is. 300 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 3: We got buys this week for Denver, Miami, the Chargers, 301 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 3: and Washington. So it's gonna take uh, you know you're 302 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 3: gonna take a running back out of the mix there 303 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,599 Speaker 3: for Denver, you're gonna take a tight end out of 304 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 3: the mix there for the Chargers. I don't thinknybody's get 305 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 3: anybody from Washington or Miami. So it looks like, hey, 306 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: look look who it is. Look who has the first pick. Rrett, 307 00:13:58,440 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 3: You're up? 308 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I gotta go back to the well 309 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: here boys, Trevion Henderson Lin lock it up. 310 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's I think it's hard. 311 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: It's hard at this point of the year with the 312 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: running backs, especially after seeing gent go for what seven 313 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: yards and six carries and the safety. 314 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 2: They're trying to throw it and get that tunny like 315 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 2: all of a sudden chip killing and said, oh, you 316 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: know what, our first thirty four plays, just throwing thirty 317 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: one of them? 318 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 3: What do we don Just you see that stat during 319 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 3: that game of like his point of contact. I mean 320 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 3: it's like, yeah, he just get no chance. Man, He's 321 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 3: got absolutely no chance. Six catches though, geez, let's go 322 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 3: all right, So you're gonna go Henderson, I'm gonna come 323 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 3: right back, and I'm gonna I'm gonna just go back 324 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 3: to your old school picking. 325 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: Tyler Warren. 326 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I figured as much. 327 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 2: Well, that's crummy. I would like to have Tyler Warren 328 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: what it would have been a nice thing. 329 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: To have get regular receivers though. 330 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I guess I'll take let's go with Mecca 331 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 2: Buka and then I get to double up and then 332 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the running back. And even though he 333 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: was crumbing last night, he's kind of one of the 334 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: better options to take Ashton Genty. Okay, all right, so 335 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: I'm up. I'll go. McMillan. Hey, how about I mag 336 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 2: being like the top top six in the league and 337 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 2: receiving yours on that's bananas, right, No, well, we talked 338 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: about it yesterday. Buck, we talked about it on yesterday's episode. 339 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: It does feel, Yeah, it's part of me. I haven't 340 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: listened to it yet. I don't know if you guys 341 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: covered this, but like, I just like I got a 342 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: hard time riding that Carolina roller coaster. Man. I mean 343 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: it's like Bryce youngo, I mean it is as high 344 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: as as high can get with a like a franchise 345 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: passing record, and then like we can dip back down and. 346 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: Throw at It's a feisty fan base now too. 347 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 3: Man. 348 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 2: I don't know how many of them there are, but 349 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: they're a feisty bunch. To the point now when I pick. 350 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: Him to lose, I'm not only getting hammered for the 351 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 3: pick being wrong, but now Buck, I mean, this is 352 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 3: just mean they're throwing it and. 353 00:15:54,600 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: You sucked at app State as well, Like it's that's 354 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: why are we getting all of that? Technically technically a 355 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: fair a fair observation. But I mean, let's let that go. Now, 356 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: come on, it's been twenty twenty plus years. Come on 357 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: with yeah, you know, have to have some money on. 358 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 3: Like the Western Carolina game where I turned the ball 359 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 3: over like four or five times, but I don't know. 360 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: That's all over me. That's not great. That's tough. 361 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: Tough man, you're doubling up, right, what do you got? 362 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? I am? 363 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: I am. The receiver situation is it's getting difficult here, boys, 364 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: because I mean all the Titans receivers are hurt. They're 365 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: like the other two rookies that are actually performing DK 366 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: and a manner. I don't know where that stands at 367 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: this point. 368 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 3: A little Trey Harris except they're on a bias. You 369 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 3: can't take him. 370 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: So I can't do that. Stand by on this because 371 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: I just want to double check one thing here, just 372 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 1: kind of going back. Oh yeah, that's right, this is 373 00:16:54,120 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: actually this one. Wait, hold on, shoot, can't do it. 374 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: I was thinking about I was thinking about making a 375 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: Pat Bryant push, but he's on a bye. He had 376 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: a nice game five eighty two for bo Nicks. So 377 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: with that in mind, I will go Jaden Higgins again 378 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: at receiver for the Houston Texans. And then I mean, 379 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: I just I don't know who's playing quarterback with Cleveland. 380 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: This is a tough deal on tight end here. Let's 381 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: go back to Colson Loveland. 382 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. I like that. 383 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 3: I'm gonna stick with that team for my running back. 384 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 3: And I'm gonna go a little Kyle m nun guy, 385 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 3: my nun guy. 386 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 2: I like that. That's a good one against the Steelers 387 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 2: Son pick right, all right. 388 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: So this so this is it? 389 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 2: So this will be uh issue right end? Yeah we go. Man, 390 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: We saw him go across the middle. Maybe with more reps, 391 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 2: maybe I'll actually found him a couple more times if 392 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: he's the guy. 393 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 3: Okay, by the way, be totally prepared no matter what 394 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 3: happens in that game for people to lose their minds. 395 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's it's. 396 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: Good or bad. 397 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: Get ready, I've needed some folks. I had to go 398 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 3: to the mute button on. I had to take the 399 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 3: scissors out. Just yeah, to cut it. Let's just have 400 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 3: a reasonable conversation here. We don't need to be who's 401 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 3: our minds, which is a problem for some folks apparently. 402 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 3: All right, let's take quick break. We'll come back with 403 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 3: our Coordinator of the weekend. Then a little thoughts and 404 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 3: prayers there for James Franklin as he goes to Blacksburg 405 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 3: try and get that place turned back around. We'll get 406 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 3: to that right for this, all right, guys, our coordinator 407 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 3: of the week which, by the way, if you want 408 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 3: to watch his defense, I would encourage you to do so. 409 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 3: If you love scouting, when you're into that, you want 410 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 3: to watch them all twenty two, you need to sign 411 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 3: up for NFL Plus Premium. You can check out NFL 412 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 3: Pro or you get access to ninety five unique player 413 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 3: and team performance stats and that All twenty two film. 414 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 3: It's available on desktop and mobile web, So encourage you 415 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 3: to do that. If you want to watch the game 416 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 3: like scouts watch the game, like coaches watch the game, 417 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: like players watch the game, that's the way you do 418 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 3: it Ordinator of the Week Philadelphi Eagles veteran defensive coordinator 419 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 3: Vic Fangio, who is absolutely rolling with what he's done 420 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 3: in that game the other night was complete and utter domination. 421 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 3: By the way, this is this is our Hot or 422 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 3: Not segment. It's brought to you by was Sabi Hot 423 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 3: Cloud Storage. Rehtt stands out most when you think about 424 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 3: the job that Fangio's. 425 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: Done well the last couple of weeks. I think he is, 426 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: you know, obviously one of the best minds in the game, 427 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: maybe ever, and he's now getting all of his pieces 428 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: back in place, right Nikobe Dean playing his most snaps 429 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: of the game along with Nolan Smith. Those two guys back, man, 430 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: I think we kind of lost sight of, just like, 431 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 1: you know, what a solid player Nikobe Dean had been 432 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: for this team before, you know, he went down with 433 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: that tough injury last year and then took a while 434 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: to work his way back. The other thing that I 435 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: think I'm kind of increasingly impressed with is Vic Fangio's 436 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: honesty and his humility, Like the honesty to say, I 437 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: don't look how he signed a Jackson man that wasn't me. 438 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about this guy. All as I 439 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: know is the other two teams that had him could 440 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: have kept him, they chose not to. And now he's 441 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: on our team and he got beat up early on right. 442 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: You guys remember that we talked about that a bunch 443 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: on some of our recap shows. And you know, sure enough, 444 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: they keep bringing in guys to replace him, right, And 445 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: he finally starts to find out who he is in 446 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: this defense, and Vic Fangio continues to trust in that 447 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: kind of evolution right that process, and he comes up 448 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: with that big fourth down turnover on downs, you know, 449 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: fourth turnover, Hey, Wall, they had five turnover on downs 450 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: in that game against the Lions, and one of them 451 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: down there inside the five yard line of Doriy forste 452 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: in completion. They just kind of gave him a little 453 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: bit of time to figure out who he could be 454 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: in this defense. And all for all we want to 455 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: say about scheme kind of goes back to our opening 456 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: conversation here, guys. You know, trust and then allowing a 457 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: player a little bit of time to figure it out 458 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: is a pretty wort and quality as well. And I 459 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: think Vic's just pushing all the right buttons right now. 460 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: Plus he's been supported with some big time additions in 461 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: the trade deadline, with Phillips at another sack this past week. 462 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 1: So great talent, great scheme, and just like a really 463 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,479 Speaker 1: good understanding of who the players are and where they 464 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: need to be to make plays. 465 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, Rid, I love all the x's and know things 466 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: that Vic Fangio does, but I think the best quality 467 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: that he has is his ability to communicate directly to 468 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 2: the players. Yes, and I think at an age where 469 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: we think that, oh, we have all these new school 470 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 2: players that you can't hold accountable, you can't coach them 471 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: in an old school way, Vic Fangio throws that into 472 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 2: the win and it was like, no, I'm gonna tell 473 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 2: them exactly what it is. I'm gonna give them the 474 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: truth and be very direct about it. It may even 475 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: be a little harsh, but then they have a clear 476 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 2: understanding of what I expect, what I demand, and what 477 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 2: we want from his defense. And I think players really 478 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 2: understand that because when you know where the lines are, 479 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 2: you know where you need to get to it. He 480 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: has set the line and the standard for all of 481 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 2: those players. And look, it's not a coincidence did they 482 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,680 Speaker 2: play well, because when I look at them I think 483 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 2: they're simplistic in terms of what they do, but their 484 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 2: execution is on par And when you see them smother 485 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 2: people on the perimeter and you see how hard they 486 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 2: play on the front line, to me, that comes from 487 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 2: the defensive coordinator setting the standards high and demanding the 488 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: players meet it or they don't play. I can appreciate 489 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 2: that old school nature that he has. 490 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean in some of the numbers, man, Like 491 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 3: just look at the Lions. If you look at that 492 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 3: game the other night, points wise, that's the worst they've 493 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 3: had since Week seven, twenty three. First downs the worst 494 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 3: since Week fourteen, twenty three, red zone worst performance since 495 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 3: Week seven, twenty three fourth downs the worst since week 496 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 3: five to twenty twenty two. And look at who they've 497 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 3: done this against. 498 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 2: It it's incredible. Man. Where is this number on here? 499 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 2: The number of top thirteen teams? 500 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: Well, while you check that off and also saydulous, I 501 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: think if you knock off our coordinator the week the 502 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: previous from the previous week, you got a pretty good 503 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: shot at being the coordinator of the week this week. 504 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: You Joe did that with Dan Campbell calling plays this 505 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: last week. 506 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just it's stupid. How many good teams that 507 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 3: they've knocked out. They've beaten six of the top thirteen 508 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 3: offenses in the NFL this year. 509 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 2: So I was. 510 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,439 Speaker 3: Also thinking about it in terms of their personnel right 511 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 3: now for this team, Nolan Smith does not start. First 512 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 3: round pick, Johan Campbell, first round pick, does not start. 513 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 3: Rand and Graham obviously come back. He's a first round pick. 514 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 3: And it's not like those guys aren't playing well. They're 515 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: all playing at a very high level. They just have 516 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 3: so much talent and depth they're able to roll guys through. 517 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 3: And it looked Bucky. It feels like the Georgia of 518 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 3: like three or four years ago, not just because it's 519 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 3: a bunch of these same players, but it was like, man, 520 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 3: this guy went out, we get a breath. 521 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: Oh no, we don't. The guy coming in is just 522 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 2: arguably just as good as a guy who just went 523 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: out of the game. Yeah, but think about what you 524 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: just said. You talked about all these first round picks. 525 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: There's no entitlement that's in place just because the first 526 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 2: round pick, you don't see your weight onto the field 527 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 2: because of your draft status. You have to earn your 528 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 2: weight onto the field. And I love that, and I 529 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: think that really will lead to them having success beyond 530 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 2: this year because those young guys now set the standard 531 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 2: for the next generation of guys that come in terms 532 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: of having to play to a certain standard to get in. 533 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: But you're right the depth of talent, how we knowing 534 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 2: what they need, and how they just kind of stockpilot 535 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 2: And it's the old Eagles maunchra where they've always invested 536 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 2: in the offensive and defensive lines, and they have always 537 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: been at their best one They able to attack you 538 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 2: with waves of bodies fresh, play hard. When you get tired, 539 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 2: the next one comes in. That's what they do. And 540 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, when you got Jordan Davis and Jalen 541 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: Carter knocking out five or six passes at the line 542 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 2: of scrimmage because they've demanded the effort improved, that just 543 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 2: speaks to the volume and the talent or whatever. And 544 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 2: the Eagles is going to be one of the teams 545 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 2: that in the conversation as the last one standing, regardless 546 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 2: of where their defense ever gets up the stuff and 547 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: fixes it. Yeah. Their offense, Yeah, their defense is good 548 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 2: enough to carry them a long way. They just need 549 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 2: some contributions from the offense. And then they can go 550 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 2: to the winner circle. Yeah. 551 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 3: I almost am thinking there's a there's a chance that 552 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 3: maybe not even consciously, maybe subconsciously, Saquon just kind of like, hey, 553 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 3: it's gonna save a little extra. 554 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 2: In the tank here. Once we get to the once 555 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 2: we get to the postseason, we can go. 556 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: If he pulls a rocky, if he pulls a Rocky 557 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: and just like takes punches for the first few weeks 558 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: of the year, a thousand yards, we're going to go 559 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 1: Penn and poll first first play in the postseason. 560 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: He's gone for seventy five. All right, Well, there you go. 561 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 3: That was this week's Hot or Not segment, brought to 562 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 3: you by with Sabbi Hot Cloud storage, store more and 563 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 3: do more with your data. Try them for free at 564 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 3: wassabi dot com. We mentioned it at the top. James 565 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 3: Franklin in Virginia Tech as our as our play by 566 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 3: play college Yes, Padre here, what are your thoughts there? 567 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's so funny how fickle like the 568 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: the thoughts and the musings of people around college football are. 569 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 1: It's like, all of a sudden, Virginia hires James Franklin 570 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: and the narrative now is that Penn State made a 571 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: mistake by letting him go. Like, guys, two things can 572 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: be true. One, it was time. It was time. It 573 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: was just time for Penn State to find a new 574 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: voice there, right, And it's also a really good hire 575 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: for Virginia Tech. There's still a clear path to the 576 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: playoff right there in the acc Sure, he's gonna have 577 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: to get past a likely perennial top ten team in 578 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: Miami out there, but you've got a fan base that 579 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: loves that program, that supports that program. I mean, I 580 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,719 Speaker 1: was just just kind of thinking about it, you know, 581 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: just thinking about Inner Sandman, right and like thinking about 582 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: him bringing that team out for the first time, Like 583 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: they are going to be absolutely jacked out of their 584 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: minds in that first home game that he runs out 585 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: there with that team, and he'll appreciate the love. Now 586 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: he's got to win, I mean, it is sure it 587 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: is a team that maybe is not expecting a national 588 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: title every year the way that the Penn State fan 589 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: base is. But he's been a builder of programs, right, 590 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: He built Vanderbilt up, he rebuilt Penn State and got 591 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: it to where it is now. And on that front, 592 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: I'll let you guys chime in here, but another interesting 593 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 1: name to think about for that Penn State vacancy once 594 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: we go around the horn here. 595 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, No, it's interesting because I think James Franklin 596 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 2: is the perfect spot. He's the perfect person for that 597 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 2: job when you look at his recruiting and where he's been. 598 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 2: He was at Maryland twice, he was at James Aren't 599 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 2: doing it. He's been at Penn State. He has dominated 600 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 2: the DMV and the Virginia areas. To me, it's a 601 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 2: natural recruiting base. He will have an edge after being fired, 602 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: which always works at Virginia Tech because a lot of 603 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 2: those guys that go to Virginia Tech were not recruited 604 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 2: necessarily by Virginia and some of those other teams, and 605 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 2: so it's the perfect marriage. All the other things that 606 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 2: people have said about him can be true in terms 607 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 2: of the game management, tactical management, and those things. But 608 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 2: I think when you're fired and you confront it with 609 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: those issues, you have to address it either by himself 610 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 2: or by bringing someone on to the staff to help 611 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 2: him get better. To me, I think they're going to 612 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 2: get a much better version of James Franklin than the 613 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 2: version that we saw at Penn State, and that version 614 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: at Penn State was pretty darn good. And now for 615 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 2: Penn State, what it does is you just got to 616 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 2: make sure that the person that you bring in there 617 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 2: can dominate recruiting in that area because a lot of 618 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 2: the recruits that made their way to Penn State are 619 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 2: going to follow James Franklin. So that person has to 620 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 2: re establish already offering him. Yeah, he has to reestablish 621 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 2: the blueprint that was successful for Penn State over the 622 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 2: last decade, which not only helped him win on the field, 623 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 2: but helped him produce a lot of those freakish athletes 624 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 2: that we talked about when it came to the combine 625 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 2: in the draft process. 626 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 3: Can I give you the two names that this situation 627 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 3: reminds me of it? In fact, if I was James Franklin, 628 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 3: I would call these two guys and talk to him. 629 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 3: This feels exactly like Andy Reid and Tony Dungee. Remember, yeah, 630 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: Andy Reid in those championship games, like think about that, 631 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 3: James Franklin top ten every year, they're right there. They 632 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 3: just can't kick that final door down, couldn't get over 633 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: that one hurdle. Tony Dungee couldn't just couldn't get by. 634 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 3: It couldn't get to that finish line. So it's like, okay, 635 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 3: those teams said, okay, this is kind of run its course. 636 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 2: Now. 637 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 3: The interesting thing is both Andy Reid and Tony Dungee 638 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 3: went on to win Super Bowls, but then their organizations 639 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 3: after they left also, so this could be a win win, 640 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 3: It could work out. Now the challenge is going to 641 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 3: be you know, obviously Doungee left, Gruden came in and 642 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 3: won won that thing quick, but with Andy Reid leaving Philadelphia, 643 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,239 Speaker 3: it took a couple iterations there before they got to 644 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 3: that point. But you know it's uh to me, I 645 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 3: think you can. You said it right there at in 646 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,719 Speaker 3: terms of this can work out for everyone involved here, 647 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 3: but they got to make the right hire man. Brent 648 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 3: Key is the name that I hear more than any 649 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 3: other at this point. 650 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 2: In time with that gig. Yeah, so we'll see what happens. 651 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 2: What do you think? Yeah? I like that. 652 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: I mean another another one kind of in that mold though, 653 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: and it's it's kind of been out there a little 654 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: bit now. But Pat Fitzgerald, I had heard that, Yeah, 655 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: settled his lawsuit there with Northwestern a couple of weeks ago. 656 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, if Andrew Luck and Frank Reich 657 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: don't make that thing permanent there, that that would be 658 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: a natural fit. But if I'm Pat, I'm like, yeah, sure, 659 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: I know how to win in an academically tough environment, 660 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: but maybe I don't want to do that anymore. You 661 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: don't want to go where our resources are, and it's 662 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit easier at Penn State on that front. 663 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: But just thinking, I know the athletic director at Penn 664 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 1: State very well, Pat Craft. He's an awesome dude. He 665 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: has an Indiana football alum, played defense for Indiana. Like 666 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: he's a hard nosed, like gritty, tough dude. I just 667 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: think stylistically, philosophically, Pat Fitzgerald and pack Craft would get 668 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: along like P's and carrots, like it would be a 669 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: great fit. 670 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, we look, man, I think they're going to be 671 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 2: challenged when you think about the landscape and those jobs 672 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 2: because LSU and Florida and those other ones that come 673 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 2: out there are big names. Pennas State may have to 674 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 2: find someone that knows the big ten, knows the land 675 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 2: and land has been successful winning that, and there's a 676 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: blue friend that he knows when it to it. You 677 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: talk about the high academic standards, Yeah, that's a little 678 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 2: different Northwestern of Penn State. But the pressure of the moment, 679 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: having to understand the pressure of the moment and having 680 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 2: to win and doing those things, I think he's ready 681 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 2: for that challenge. It's a very interesting name, particularly because 682 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,360 Speaker 2: Elko and some of the names that we were targeting 683 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 2: for that job, I'm no longer on the table. Yeah, 684 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 2: so I think they have to make a splashy higher 685 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: and I do believe it also has to fit the brand. 686 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 2: When I think of Penn State and I close my eyes, 687 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: I think a rough, rugged physical I think of Matt Millen. 688 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 2: That's why I think. Yes, I mean, I mean, that's 689 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: what I'm thinking. And I do believe Pat Fitzgerald offers 690 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 2: some of that stuff that they want and that they're 691 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 2: comfortable seeing in Penn State. 692 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 3: And you can hire them right now. Yeah, no want 693 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 3: to the uh. Yeah, that's that is a good point. 694 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 3: I like the fact that James Franklin is going to 695 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 3: get a head start on uh trying to keep some recruits. 696 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 3: And the other thing too, this is different now with 697 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 3: the GM situation, is that you can get a GM 698 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 3: in these places, you know, maybe before you get the 699 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 3: head coach in there to try and get your recruiting 700 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 3: dialed in a little bit. But it's going to be 701 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 3: a wild carousel, man, that we'll see what happened. 702 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: Many feelings are going to get hurt in the Lane 703 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: Kiffin sweepstakes, like. 704 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 2: Anybody, they all are in on him. Man, it's I'm 705 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: still saying this, I'm still going to record. I understand 706 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 2: that those jobs offer like more money and more cachet, 707 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: but man, it will be really hard for me to 708 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 2: leave a spot that I've already got built up and 709 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 2: we're rolling. I just for personally, I wouldn't want to 710 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 2: have to do the rebuild thing all over again, Harry, 711 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 2: when I had this thing at Old Miss Rolling, and 712 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 2: let's be honest, I'm the best coach that they've ever had. 713 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 2: There's a statue waiting to be built for me in 714 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 2: front of the stadium. Egotistically, I would be okay with that. Yeah, 715 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 2: but you know how cars run on gasoline. I think 716 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 2: Lane Kiffin runs on people hating him like I think 717 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 2: he loves that. 718 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 3: So however, you like that forever thought to forerever, He's 719 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 3: the that's who he is, man. 720 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 2: He embraces that role. So that's what fuels him. 721 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 3: So I mean, he could have everybody in Oxford, Mississippi 722 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 3: go from loving him to hating him. 723 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 2: So he's just like that. He's crazy. He's gonna be 724 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 2: He's gonna be hoko and it goes to n wo, 725 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 2: he's at that beard, ain't be he's gonna be that, 726 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 2: gonna be that black. 727 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 3: I don't know if he can grow a beard, uh man. 728 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 3: But anyway, so that will be interest to see what happens. 729 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 3: Is gonna be wild the wild time here in the 730 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,959 Speaker 3: college football landscape. But RTT, appreciate you joining us, man, 731 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 3: and thank you to have these rookie shakeout next week 732 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 3: and we'll uh we'll do this all over again. 733 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 2: Appreciate everybody listening. Uh we'll see you next time right 734 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 2: here on. Move the sticks.