1 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: This week's episode, story Time with Legendary Jerry. I am 2 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: Jerry Clark akad Legendary Jerry. I have my brother new 3 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: face in the building. 4 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: We are officially here. Man, you're ready for this one that. 5 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: I don't know? New face. I don't know because let 6 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: me tell you something. I've been trying to get this 7 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: brother for a minute, man, and uh fuck it, we 8 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: just gonna jump right in. Man. We got one fourth, 9 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: one a quarter of the multi platinum. 10 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 3: Group multi platinum, my brother Q Parker. 11 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: What's up family? What's up with your mind? Man? Pleasure? Pleasure? 12 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 4: Man, I've been hearing so many great things. I'm just honest, 13 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 4: man that when you went through your whole rolodex of 14 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,319 Speaker 4: people that's new you. 15 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: See he start He's like he started off with the 16 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: cap already, Parker, Like, here we go, yo, I'm so honest. 17 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: It wasn't even an alphabetical order, man. We went straight from 18 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 3: the a's to Q. 19 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, man, No, man, it's my pleasure. 20 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: Like I said, we've been talking for a while, we've 21 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: been seeing each other for a while. We've been knowing 22 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: each other for a while, and I gotta I got 23 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: a lot of respect for you personally and professionally. Wow. 24 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: So I just thought it was only it was only 25 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: right for us to sit and have on that's some 26 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: conversation about this music, ship, man, because you've been around this, 27 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: you've been in this game around it for a long time, 28 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: and you know where the bodies is buried. I mean, 29 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: New Face he was there, He knows what the bodies 30 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: is buried. Man. I mean, let's let's talk about it. 31 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: Let's talk about it so early. Let me jump right in. Man, 32 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: everybody know that. You know, of course y'all groove, how 33 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: y'all started with being named after the club and all that. 34 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: What was that first ever? Mean? Like with Puff when 35 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: y'all met, I know it was probably one here or 36 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: wasn't in New York. 37 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 4: The very first one was here in Atlanta and our 38 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 4: managers at the time, big shout out to k Wells, 39 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 4: they had a relationship with Puff. Now this is after 40 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 4: Dallas didn't want to sign us. Jermaine didn't sign us, 41 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 4: Ah the Face didn't sign us. 42 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: Rico Wade like nobody, and we wanted to be. 43 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 4: Down with Atlanta because you know, we wrapped Atlanta all day. 44 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 4: But Kay was like, yo, my man, Puff is coming 45 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 4: in town, and I want to set up like an 46 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 4: impromptu audition for him. Now, the crazy thing is, you 47 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 4: know how it is when you're really inundated with a 48 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 4: lot of things, but you want to make good on 49 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 4: something that you told your friend. And so we literally 50 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 4: catch Puff coming out of the club and so he's like, 51 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 4: walk with me. So we're we are auditioning as he's 52 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 4: walking to his vehicle. But I mean, we seized the moment, 53 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 4: and obviously we sparked. We sparked enough attention in him 54 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 4: to want to have a second meeting. Now the second meeting, 55 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 4: he came back to Atlanta and we had an official 56 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 4: audition at Doppler Studios. So that was when we really 57 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 4: was able to go deep in our bag and just 58 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 4: throw it at him. Everything was as forward, yeah, and 59 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 4: shout out to Faith Evans and Usher because. 60 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: They were getting it done. They were at the audition. 61 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 4: Faith was there because you know, Faith was she was 62 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 4: writing a lot of the songs, and Puffy was executive 63 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 4: producing very first album and so he was with him 64 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 4: just all the time. And so after we auditioned, Faith 65 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 4: was like, Yo, you're crazy if you don't sign these boys. 66 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 4: And so That's why she's always been my sister. 67 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: Man. I love her to death. And so with all 68 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,839 Speaker 1: these these bad Boy artists over the years coming back 69 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: saying that that Puff robbed them and they signed fucked 70 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: up deals, was that advery case, did you ever sit 71 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: back and be like, man, we signed that as a group, 72 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: we signed a fucked up deal. 73 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 4: So the short answer is yes. However, my perspective is 74 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 4: just a little different man. Like you know, I am 75 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 4: a glass half full guy, and I'm always trying my 76 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 4: best to extract the good out of it. Now, I 77 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 4: could sit and cry about the deal and then not 78 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 4: being favorable to me and my group members. However, I'm 79 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 4: still grateful because of the opportunity he invested some time 80 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 4: into myself my group, and that's part of the reasons 81 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 4: why I'm even sitting in this chair today. 82 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: Because I because a lot of artists new face, they 83 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: forget about that ship. Oh no, they so and so 84 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: rob me. They fucked me out a deal. But if 85 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: it weren't for Puff putting his time and his money 86 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: and his cashet with bad Boy, yes, you wouldn't even 87 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 1: be here. So I like that whole Yeah. 88 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 4: Now, I will say this though, so I put that 89 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 4: over on the left side, but on the right side, 90 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 4: I go back to answering your question. 91 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 1: The deal wasn't the best deal. 92 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 4: It wasn't favorable for me being the artist who was 93 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 4: going to put a lot of blood, sweat and tears 94 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 4: into the craft. But he did nothing, no different than 95 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 4: anybody else. Because at the time that was the standard 96 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 4: issuing contract. It just wasn't favorable for artists. And so 97 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 4: I always tell artists a know the game, know the business, 98 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 4: and if you decide to move forward with signing the deal, 99 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 4: just know what you're signing, man, and just be a 100 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 4: man about it. 101 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: And fortunately for us. 102 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 4: We were able to work through that first contract which 103 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 4: wasn't the best, but we proved our so when it 104 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 4: got time to renegotiate, we had some value and so 105 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 4: we were able to then get our worth and then more. 106 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all, did y'all make some money on the my 107 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: first two albums? We did have. We did money on 108 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: our album. 109 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 4: Well, not necessarily the album sales, but one thing I 110 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 4: will say about Courtney and Kevin Man, they kept us 111 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 4: on the road and so we were able to just 112 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 4: get money from the shows, and that was money that 113 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 4: the record deal could not take. 114 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: But here's the key, tho, here's the key. 115 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 4: What we didn't make from the record sales, we made 116 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 4: from royalties because we were songwriters and producers and. 117 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: From day one that's not just artists. 118 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: Not knowing that. 119 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 4: When we first got into the game, like nobody set 120 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 4: us down and said, hey, write your own stuff, produce 121 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 4: your own music. We were just so connected. We were 122 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 4: just so connected to what we wanted to sound like. 123 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 4: We were just writing and producing our own stuff anyway. 124 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 4: So all the hiss that you've heard ever heard of 125 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 4: one twelve, nine out of ten times them ourselves. And 126 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 4: so what we didn't get from our record deal in 127 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 4: our contract, we got from our shows, and we got 128 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 4: from the fact that we were songwriters and so we 129 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 4: had ownership. 130 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: And new phase. Before you jump in, I know you 131 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: got a question. I just want to ask this that's 132 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: been all over the media the last few months about 133 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: Puff Diddy giving back publishing to all his artists. Yeah, now, 134 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: qugh Parker one twelve, it's air. You just said, you 135 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: you know, you wrote a lot of stuff on your albums. 136 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: How did that affect you? How does that How does 137 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: that with Puff giving back your publisher. What does that 138 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: do for you? 139 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 4: So I want to be clear, he never had all 140 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,119 Speaker 4: of my publishing. So let me look at the camera 141 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 4: right now and say this one. He never he he 142 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 4: never had all of my publishing. 143 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 144 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 4: Uh, when you are an investor, you have to protect 145 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 4: your investment, of course. And so if I put you 146 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 4: on one could say I'm entitled to something because I'm 147 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 4: giving you the opportunity. I'm giving you instances where you 148 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 4: can elevate who you are as a songwriter. And so 149 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 4: I'm able to demand what I can demand now as 150 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 4: a songwriter because I was in a publishing deal with 151 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 4: Puffy and so with him being the most sought after 152 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 4: producer during that time, everybody that came to him for 153 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 4: for a song, we was writing it. 154 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 3: Right. 155 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 4: So was that forty percent that he took of mind 156 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 4: worth the opportunities I'm gonna say to me as a 157 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 4: business I I'm gonna say absolutely, because when you come 158 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 4: in my house and see all them plaques on my wall, 159 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 4: it's because of the opportunities. 160 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: That provided he provided. 161 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 4: Now, the portion that he had, he just reassigned it 162 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 4: back to me, and so the portion that I've had 163 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 4: for all these years I made a lot of money. 164 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 1: You've been eating that, yeah, I've been even very eating it. 165 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 4: Yes, and so now getting now I got one hundred percent, 166 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 4: and so for me, that's more of a legacy play 167 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 4: that that that difference in the percentage now my grandchildren's 168 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 4: children's and children absolutely not. 169 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: Nah, I'm not. I'm not the one that's that's gonna 170 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: say right off for come, you ain't selling, I'm not. 171 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 4: I'm not selling. I've had many opportunities, but I'm not. 172 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 4: I'm not selling. 173 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: Hmmm. 174 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: And then you got you know, and I take it 175 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 2: back to like I remember, you guys were forte. 176 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 4: I don't want to second. And I'm gonna tell you 177 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 4: why I'm not selling. I wonder why I'm gonna tell 178 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 4: you why I'm not selling. I I I look at 179 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 4: it this way. I've had conversations with my attorneys, with 180 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 4: my advisors, and everybody that means something to me. Who 181 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 4: can who can impart some financial wisdom into my intimate. 182 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 4: I've grown accustomed man to the two times a year 183 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 4: when I get up my royalty statements. I know when 184 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 4: it's coming. I can kind of see what the amount 185 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 4: is gonna be. And so I'm okay with just that lifestyle. 186 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 4: I'm not chasing the fame the money like I'm not 187 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 4: doing it anymore. And the best advice that I could 188 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 4: give to anybody who is considering selling your catalog is 189 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 4: to sit down with a financial advisor. Sit down with 190 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 4: somebody who can actually help you allocate what you're gonna 191 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 4: do with that money, because I'm telling you want what 192 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 4: he's saying and that money is gone, that's it, out 193 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 4: of here. And I know many of individuals who have 194 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 4: sold and didn't have their ducks in the row and. 195 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: Look back and be like, shit, why why did I 196 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: do it? 197 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 3: And when they do it online, everybody's apart. And I 198 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 3: always sold it. You got these millions. 199 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 2: But if you don't do that groundwork, all your stuff 200 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: in order? 201 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 3: Man, And I remember you guys originally went by the 202 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: name of Forte. 203 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: Is that own route too? Excellence? 204 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: And now how true is this? 205 00:10:58,880 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: You know? 206 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 3: Shout out to Berney Seals aka Bear. He told him 207 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 3: there was a possibility that in the beginning it was 208 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 3: two members of Jagged Edge and two members of One 209 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 3: twelve or Forte at the time, that could have potentially 210 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 3: been a group that there was You guys. 211 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: Were kind of working hand in hand early on that 212 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: before everybody got established that truth to. 213 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 4: The reason why Richard Wingo from Jagged Edge is one 214 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,839 Speaker 4: of my best friends, shout out too. I love you man, 215 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 4: that's my heart. Man, I love that dude. But prior 216 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 4: to me joining one twelve, because I was the last 217 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 4: member to join what the World Know as One twelve, 218 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 4: Wingo was the last member to join what the World 219 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 4: Knows as Jagget. But had Wingo not told Courtney to 220 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 4: come see Forte at a talent show, Courtney would have 221 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 4: never discovered One twelve to take to Kevin, to take 222 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 4: to Dallas, to take to Tim and Bob. So that 223 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 4: now it eventually get to puff. So all of this 224 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 4: is because of rich at history. But then I'm gonna 225 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 4: take it a step further. Prior to me joining one 226 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 4: twelve and him Jacket Edge, Wingo and I was in 227 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 4: a group together. 228 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: Wow. 229 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 4: It was myself, Wingo, my one of my current attorneys, 230 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 4: Chuck Douglas, and. 231 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: One other member. We were in a group. 232 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 4: It didn't last but a couple of months, but uh, 233 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 4: he and I was in a group once. Your Wingo 234 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 4: and I we lived together. Man. When I bought my 235 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 4: first house. He came to live with me, like, that's 236 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 4: that's my guy. And a lot of a lot of 237 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 4: things that have happened in my life is because of Wingo. 238 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 4: I met my wife because of Wingo. 239 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: Wow. So so we got we one degree of separation 240 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: from not heavy, A one twelve and a jagged as 241 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: well we know right now absolutely one little small. 242 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 3: And ironically that was actually the verses, you know, and 243 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 3: that's what everybody kind of put together, the jacketed verse 244 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 3: one twelve. And would you have an opportunity to kind 245 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 3: of redo that as well? Because I remember you guys, 246 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 3: weren't you know, as a collective a part of that. 247 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: Would you want to get into the reason and why? 248 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 2: And would you want to do it do over or 249 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 2: with Jack? 250 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 1: Dad? 251 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I'm an open book. As I 252 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 4: told you how you hit. Absolutely, I will say, whenever 253 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 4: there are similarities and whenever there are greatness in the similarities, 254 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 4: one can't help but try to pit the two against 255 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 4: each other as as competitive competition. And so imagine what 256 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 4: it was like for me with Wingo being my best 257 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 4: friend and us having rival groups, you know, on in 258 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 4: front of the camera. 259 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: I got to be like that now. I was one twelve. 260 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: At one point it was like some words going back 261 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: and forth, like it was a real life absolutely square 262 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: one night. We didn't necessarily square it up, but I 263 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: mean it turned into some street shit. 264 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 4: Our thing was always, man, you know, we're R and 265 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 4: B dudes. We're not trying to fight. Man, Let's just 266 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 4: settle it on stage, you know, don't come behind us. 267 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 4: And they'll say, don't come. 268 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: Behind because not because because New Face, like all the 269 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: radio stations ran with it. It's one twelve versus jacket, 270 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: one twelve versus jacket. And I gotta say, for a minute, 271 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: I thought it was like it was gonna turn into 272 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: some real life some R and B reminded me. 273 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 3: It reminded me of g Z and Gucci, how like 274 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: they wanted the consumers to pick one. 275 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 2: I was a fan of both, and Gucci one to it. 276 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 2: I just fuck with both. But like you said, the 277 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 2: radio and the media ran with one, like the media 278 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: ram which one are you? 279 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: And did that Did I put a strain on you 280 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: on Wingos relationship? Absolutely not, Okay, no, absolutely not, because 281 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: the twins from Jagged is they from the east Side. 282 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: From the east Side, you and Wingo from the South Side, huh, 283 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: and other members of One twelve. We're part of town, 284 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: they are. 285 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 4: We are from the Cleveland Avenue or South Side, Yeah 286 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 4: we are. 287 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: We grew up in that area. 288 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 4: But man, it was It's just one of those things 289 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 4: where I'm first and foremost I'm a music lover. 290 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: Period. When I'm just by myself, man, I'm rocking jagged. Yeah. 291 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 4: Like some of my favorite R and B songs are 292 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 4: songs of theirs. I love Drew Hill, I love Black Street, 293 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 4: I love Next. I never looked at it as competition 294 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 4: because they were great for what they did and they 295 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 4: are not worth They are great for who they are 296 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 4: and what they do, and to be honest with you, 297 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 4: they corner a market in R and B from a 298 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 4: group standpoint that we don't. We cover an area that 299 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 4: they don't and so does. So it was always room 300 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 4: for everybody. 301 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: Did you did you think just vocalists for vocalists again, 302 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: Mino and Mano, that y'all all saying, now you know that, 303 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: I was like, Man, what the fuck I mean? Listen? 304 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: I also vocalists for vocalists. One twelve y'all, y'all, y'all 305 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: got what anybody guess anybody. 306 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 4: Anybody, No, No, Pounderful Pound, Mono and Mono, Yeah, vocals, 307 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 4: these can't see one twelve period. And I say that 308 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 4: with love because I love all of them, but pounderful 309 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 4: Pound vocally, Yeah, nobody ask. 310 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 3: You is there one song by any of those groups, 311 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 3: even Jagget is that you heard came out and was like, damn, 312 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 3: I wish we had. 313 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: That one absolutely. 314 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 4: One of my favorite Jagget Edge records is gotta be 315 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 4: Oh my man, it's it's so funny. Sometimes Wingo and 316 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 4: I do shows together, like we'll we'll, we'll create an opportunity. 317 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: For he myself r L. 318 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 4: One of the group members from other groups, will we'll 319 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 4: do some shows together, and what kind of interchange each 320 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 4: other songs? 321 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: Man? 322 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 4: I loved One twelve and Jagged did a tour together. 323 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,959 Speaker 4: It was called the one twelve Jagget Experience. Remember that, 324 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 4: and we changed on stage where we sang one of 325 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 4: these songs. They sang one of our songs. Man, I'm 326 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 4: a fan of rough ends like my day from back 327 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:17,920 Speaker 4: in the. 328 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 1: Day, another military line of group. 329 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 4: If there would be no one twelve, if it wasn't 330 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 4: for silk, like I give silk props because we sang 331 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 4: some silk songs when we auditioned for. 332 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: Puff get the Deal. 333 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 4: To get the deal, we sang Jodasy boys and men, 334 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 4: all of them. So, man, I'm fans of all of 335 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 4: those guys. 336 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: So cute. With all that being said, man, let's jump 337 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: into it. Sure, one twelve man, there's always three sides 338 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: their restore. Absolutely, you want to say, what the fuck 339 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: going on? Man? Why y'all can't? What's up? Man? We 340 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: just said that, y'all went out one twelve jagget edge 341 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: of tour, y'all interchanging song, Well we got it. What 342 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: can we do to get that back? Popping? Man? Because 343 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: y'all from the media, you hear it seems like the 344 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: beef is like I ain't gonna say irreparable, but it's 345 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: it's deep. It's very deep. I will I will say that. 346 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 4: However, it's not deep enough that it still can't be healed. 347 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 4: If I got a deep gash in my arm, it 348 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 4: can still be here. It still may leave a scar there, 349 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 4: but I can still eventually have full mobility and functionality 350 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 4: of that particular limb. However, with the one twelve situation, 351 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 4: there are some some some some deep concerns. Uh, And 352 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 4: I think, honestly, man, the the biggest thing would would 353 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 4: be just getting us in a room and so the 354 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 4: powers that be, the powers that have the power to 355 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 4: influence group members. I would just encourage you all. I'm 356 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 4: and I'm looking in the camera. I would say to everybody, 357 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 4: if you are connected to any member of the group, 358 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 4: have a conversation about us getting together and sitting down, 359 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 4: because anything can be talked through, especially as men. Yeah, 360 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 4: we can fight, crawl, all cry and all of that. 361 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 4: The important thing is just getting out what needs to 362 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 4: get out. Eventually it'll land where it needs to land. 363 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 4: And I believe until we're until we the four of 364 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 4: us are able to do that, it'll allow the media 365 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,360 Speaker 4: because even the promoters play a part of it too. 366 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 4: So the promoters are still hiring the version of one 367 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 4: twelve that's out there. 368 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: So that makes them. 369 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 4: How many versions is going out? It's just one and 370 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 4: you're not in that version. No, I'm not in that version. 371 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 4: The version that's out now is just Mike and Slam. 372 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 4: And to be honest with you, I don't really fault 373 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 4: them for that either, because they had to do what 374 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 4: they had to do. The first you know one of 375 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 4: the greatest laws is the law of preservation. So I 376 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 4: got to protect myself at all costs. 377 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: From a legal standpoint. I mean, I don't know how 378 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: it works because I know the temptations at one point, 379 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: I know that's a lot older. But they even when 380 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: they do their reviews up until recently, it'll be an 381 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: old member from the original group and another How does 382 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: that work? Not I'm really not interested in that. Man. 383 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: You know I've done a lot. You don't want to 384 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:00,880 Speaker 1: go out with your own version one twelve. 385 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,919 Speaker 4: Now, I've done a lot of work, man, with just 386 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 4: building the Q Parker brand, and so I can. I 387 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 4: can go and just stand alone as Q Parker. Now 388 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 4: people will understand that whenever they do book a Q Parker, 389 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 4: I can't help but also give you parts of my 390 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 4: history too, which is one twelve, and so I can. 391 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 4: I can still do all this, all of that too. 392 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 4: But ultimately I do wish, and I'm intentional about my words. 393 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 4: I do wish for a reconcile. 394 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: I do hope because I saw you on i G 395 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: not long ago, and you I think it was after 396 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: somebody passed past. You were sincere by that one absolute 397 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: there was no cap shiited one. No, you know you 398 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 1: was like really you was like, hey, man, let's let's 399 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: get this ship right man to my members and there and. 400 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say I'm yeah, I'm gonna stay it on 401 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 4: your podcast too, say man, call me, call me, Slim 402 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 4: might call me. 403 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: Y'all hear this man, this man, let's get one man, 404 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: come on one twelve. Let's let's whatever we got. What 405 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 1: was the original is it? It's usually two things, Yeah, 406 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 1: pus seal money man the ladder. Okay, yeah, the latter 407 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: it was. It was it was. It was the rumors 408 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,680 Speaker 1: were that that somebody was stealing money from other members. 409 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 4: Like how a lot of financial discrepancies, I'll just put 410 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 4: it there. 411 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: But with accountants, attorneys, people, managers, people. 412 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 4: That were involved in the control of the dispersing of 413 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 4: the money. 414 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: It was just some some lack of integrity there. Uh. 415 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 4: And because legally I can't necessarily name because we are 416 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 4: in illegal litigation currently, but I would just say that 417 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 4: the integrity in the financial aspects of it, which is 418 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 4: what caused me to step aside, because I can't work 419 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 4: with anybody man when I can't see and trust. You know, 420 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 4: we were all I had working. 421 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: Hard, so you try picking up the phone call them 422 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: dudes like, man, let's just nobody else. Let's go sit down. Yeah, 423 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: I take Slim, Mike, Mike nothing, no crawl back, no, no. 424 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 4: So again every time I every opportunity I have, I 425 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 4: will say to them, Mike, Slim, the people that's in 426 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 4: charge of how they move promoters out here. Man, if 427 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 4: y'all really want one twelve to reconcile, push the buttons 428 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 4: to get those guys to set up as we can 429 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 4: get this done. 430 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 3: So with the versus, was there an option for you 431 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 3: to join or where you guys kind of separated at 432 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 3: that point. 433 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 4: We were already kind of The separation happened at the 434 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 4: conclusion of the one twelve Jacket Edge Experience tour, which 435 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 4: was twenty eighteen. So it's been five years since I 436 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 4: and Deran has been. 437 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: And y'all ain't bumping into each other out in about 438 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. 439 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 4: Nothing that's weird, nah, because I do a lot of 440 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 4: moving around and I've never nah, I've yet to. 441 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: What that's gonna be. Like, y'all you bumped into them, 442 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: like you said you said earlier, are being the union 443 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: about to be out here? 444 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 4: Swinging on them. I'm too smooth for any of that. 445 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 4: We're too smooth for any of that. But it would 446 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 4: definitely be hey, and and to be honest, let me 447 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 4: just be honest first and foremost. They my brothers. I 448 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 4: got nothing. 449 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: I love literally. 450 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 4: I love Michael Keith, I love you, Bro, Marvin Slim Skendrick, 451 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 4: I love you man. So if I was to see 452 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 4: them out, it would be all love to understand that 453 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 4: some years man, absolutely. 454 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: All is going over some bread. Yeah. 455 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 4: Accusations, yeah yeah, yeah, And if it wasn't true, let's 456 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 4: just sit down and come to that it's not true 457 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 4: or it's not accurate. But don't but don't just dismiss 458 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 4: when I bring to the table. Hey, I think something 459 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 4: is a little left me mentioning it is worth us 460 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 4: at least having a conversation, having some dialogue because I 461 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 4: think and I wasn't granted that, which is why I. 462 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 2: And being optimistic like him. 463 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 3: You look at like what Birdman situation with Wayne bg Juvie. 464 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 2: They had those discriptions. 465 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 3: He too and had a conversation and now they're you know, 466 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 3: they still working together business. You know, like you said, 467 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 3: it's it's not you may forgive, but the wound is 468 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 3: still there. But I think moving forward for the culture 469 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 3: and definitely for the city of Atlanta. 470 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: Man, definitely for the city. It's needed, man, it's needed. 471 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: It's time. It's been long enough. 472 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's still some chapters of the one twelfth 473 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 4: story that still need to be told, and it can 474 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 4: only happen with all four original members. 475 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, speaking of chapter, let's talk about the chapter. 476 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: Let's go back to the nineties when a lot of 477 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: this bullshit was going on between Death Row And and 478 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: band Boy Man. Man, what was that The word was 479 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: y'all got pressed a couple of times going out to 480 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: l A rn B group. Yeah, but when you man, 481 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: you on the label bad Boy, you'renaet. Yeah, personator, they 482 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: don't care if you were an assistant of publicist, they 483 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: pressing you. 484 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 4: There were many times when we landed in l A. 485 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 4: We had to check in and I just put it 486 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 4: that way. Yeah, we had we had to check in, man, 487 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 4: we had extra security. So here's here's the story. So, 488 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 4: and y'all know this our first single, only you right 489 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 4: shout out to No, No, Not toys, b I. 490 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: G rest in peace, Big Man. Christopher Wallace goalie, absolutely right, 491 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: come right, new face to hip hop horder right here. 492 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: You see that he bring it, He bring Q, he 493 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: brings show that hold that up. 494 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 2: You said that's your first thing. 495 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: Look look how y'all y'all look on that. Y'allow likes 496 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 1: something in that box. Some in that box showing what 497 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 1: that was. I cut bad boy. 498 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 2: The man Look at that Jay he like about ten 499 00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: years old. 500 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 4: Legutive just finished doing my homework. 501 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: Dang, just finish homework. 502 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 4: But yeah, man, so our first single, only You, and 503 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 4: we're starting a promo tour and the West Coast jumps 504 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 4: on the record. 505 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: So y'all had to go out there. 506 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 4: We had no choice, Jerry, because as you know, as 507 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 4: y'all know, if we don't go where they're giving us love, 508 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 4: we run the risk of losing and a major a 509 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 4: major region like the West Coast, or if big population 510 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 4: influenced other regions, and so if the beatst planet, then 511 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 4: fifteen other stations gonna play it. Just so puff Puff 512 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 4: put out a label wide mandate that no artists could 513 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 4: go to the West Coast, and so we were in 514 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 4: like between the rock and a hard place, because if 515 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 4: we don't go and chase our record, that maybe on 516 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,479 Speaker 4: the shot that might be our only shot man, And 517 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 4: so we we all got together, all of them. They 518 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,160 Speaker 4: were showing us so much love, and so we decided 519 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 4: to go and support our record and chase our record. 520 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: I'm glad that we did, but I can't I can. 521 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 4: I can honestly tell you, man, that there was some 522 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 4: some scary moments of us going out there, police escorts 523 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 4: everywhere we go. If somebody even mentioned your sugar Nighter 524 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 4: is in the building, y'all, we shouldn't be oh me, 525 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 4: me me this move. 526 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: We should should sugar. So during them years, it was 527 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: a lot of pressing. Man, sure it was. It was. 528 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: It was. And we're only eighteen, nineteen years old. Yeah, 529 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: y'all like damn the South like yeah, we're like hey, man, ship, 530 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: we were just trying to make some money our record. 531 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 4: I remember this one time we were in the mall 532 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 4: and on the West coast. I think we were like 533 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 4: in Seattle, Washington, Yeah, Tacoma, and our thing was we'd 534 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 4: land into the into the market, check into the hotel, 535 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 4: go to the mall, buy some whatever, sneakers or whatever, 536 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 4: and try to meet some girls to invite them to 537 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 4: the show that night. With flyers or whatever like that 538 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 4: was our normal every time we go in the city. 539 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 1: This is this time. We go to the. 540 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 4: Mall and a couple of girls start following us. That's 541 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 4: not normal. So one turns into three, turns into ten thirty. 542 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 4: Next thing you know, we got like twenty thirty girls 543 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 4: or something. 544 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: Just like shit, just shine, we go here we go. 545 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: So we do. But then some dudes started joining the group. 546 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 4: Man, it got to the point where it was about 547 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 4: one hundred people just in our little train, and they 548 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 4: cornered us man in the food court. And this is 549 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 4: when I realized just how the media, how stuff just spread. 550 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 4: You ever seen man like anger in the eyes of 551 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 4: somebody like. 552 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 1: And it's a scary feeling too, Oh. 553 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 4: My god, to see anger in someone's eyes, like there's 554 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 4: nothing they won't do if they can only get their 555 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 4: hands on you. I just remember being pent up in 556 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 4: the food court. They had the mall security to barricade 557 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 4: us in. And I remember nineteen and twenty year olds 558 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 4: as close as I am to you, like west Side, 559 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 4: and I mean, like to just see it in their eyes. 560 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: Like they they're really killed. All because of the affiliation. 561 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: East West Label Association. 562 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: Was y'all at the party when I'm Big got killed 563 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: that night in La. 564 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 4: So we were not at the party, but we If 565 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 4: you go back and look at the Soul Train Awards, 566 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 4: which was the night of we had a show in 567 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 4: North Carolina the next day, and so immediately after we 568 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 4: did the Soul Train we got on the Red Eye 569 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 4: to fly back to ours. But I'll never forget. We 570 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 4: had to present for a category. It was one twelve. 571 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 4: It was Big and Keith Sweat, and prior to going 572 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 4: from commercial break, Big just kept saying, some don't feel right, Man, 573 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 4: I gotta get the hell out of here. We go 574 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 4: out to do the presentation and he's kind of molding 575 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 4: with his teeth, like, man, I gotta get the fuck 576 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 4: out of here, Like I gotta get. 577 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: Out of head d We leave land in North Carolina 578 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 1: and get the news and get the news. Yep, I 579 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: still have to do the show. Still had to do 580 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: the show. Yeah. 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