1 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Smell us. 2 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 2: Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia podcast. Welcome to Meet Eater 3 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain Time on October seventeenth, 4 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 2: and we're live from Meet Theater HQ and Boasman, Montana. 5 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: I'm your host, Spencer Newhart, joined today by Ryan Callahan 6 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: and Seth Morris. On today's show, we're talking to doctor 7 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: Solomon David about the evolution of gar. Then we've got 8 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: a migration report from Matt McCormick, followed by one minute 9 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 2: fishing at the Office Pond with Hillary. Then we'll find 10 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: out how much Cal and Seth know about their fellow 11 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: hunters and anglers with a game of meat poll, followed 12 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: by a chettiquet about public land duck hunting. And finally 13 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: we'll talk to Danielle Pruitt about the correct way to 14 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 2: brown ground meat. First, I need an update from you 15 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 2: boys about Louisiana. You just stepped off the plane, got 16 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: home back to Montana from the Meat Eater experience at 17 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 2: Cypress Cove. 18 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, all my fishing was inshore. Cow got out for 19 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 3: some out or offshore stuff, which very jealous of you 20 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 3: should be. Yeah, it looked amazing, But now the fishing 21 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 3: inshore was fantastic. 22 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so the one off short day, like 23 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 4: all the boats that went out had you know, varying 24 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 4: degrees of success, like all success across the board, like 25 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 4: one of the boats that caught smaller tuna also bumped 26 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 4: into like a super bonus school of mahi mahi. 27 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: The fish so nice they named it twice. 28 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: Spencer former trivia question, also known as a dolphin fish. 29 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 4: Strong strong, And then we yeah, we got we found 30 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 4: we got one mark right out of the gate on 31 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 4: the sonar, one one little arch and you know, to me, 32 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 4: that's not a school of tuna, like okay, that's like 33 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 4: a bill fish or something hanging down there. And we 34 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 4: threw out two baits and ended up with two like 35 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 4: probably like live weight one hundred and seventy pound yellowfin tuna. 36 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: But I heard that you haven't brought it up yet. 37 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: But the most envious catch of the whole like three 38 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: week experience was a gar that you caught, right. 39 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, the guar was awesome. 40 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 4: That was super awesome, Yeah, very surprising, extremely lucky. 41 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: You weren't fishing for gar when you caught the gar. 42 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 4: No no, no, no, no, no, Like I mean the whole 43 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 4: deal was like light redfish sea trout tackle and that's 44 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 4: what I was trying to catch with a little like 45 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 4: walleye size swim bait and just had the magical hook 46 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 4: placement hookup on. 47 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, I'm surprised you got to 48 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 3: the boat because we had hooked a couple of guard. 49 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: Too, and they were off. 50 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, as you would expect, right, like armored scales and 51 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 4: big old teeth and everything. So yeah, I was just 52 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 4: just very lucky. 53 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 2: Not just any garn alligator gar. And you can see 54 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: a photo of Cal holding that gar, I believe on 55 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: Steve's Instagram. Is that the first alligator gar you've ever caught? 56 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 4: I would say, so, I think I got in in Texas. 57 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, well because I'm you know, Montana right 58 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 4: like man. Yeah, inundated with. 59 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 2: Gary speaking of Guard. Joining us on the line first 60 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: is doctor Solomon David from the University of Minnesota. Doctor 61 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: David is an aquatic ecologist in one of the world's 62 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: foremost authorities on Guard. Doctor David, welcome to the show. 63 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 5: Thanks for having me, Spencer and and the rest of you. 64 00:03:58,520 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 6: Good to be here. 65 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: Solomon David and I have known each other for probably 66 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: over a decade. It goes back to my days of 67 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 2: working at a Federal fish ententry and there was one 68 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: spring where we raised millions of paddlefish there. And there 69 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: was one spring where I think we had about a 70 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: dozen albino or technically lucistic paddlefish that were born, and 71 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: once they got about ten inches long, I tried to 72 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 2: find some zoos and aquariums across the country who'd want 73 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: to take them. So I reached out to probably twenty 74 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 2: zoos and aquariums, and one of the people who responded 75 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: was doctor David, who worked at Shedd Aquarium at the time, 76 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: and so I shipped him. Was it one or two 77 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: paddlefish that I sent you in the mail? 78 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,359 Speaker 5: I think it might have been too. I think I 79 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 5: kind of just helped broker that, you know, that connection there, 80 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 5: because that went to the fish people you know on 81 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 5: site at shed But I think it might have been too. 82 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: So I sent him a couple of lucistic paddlefish in 83 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 2: the mail. They didn't survive more than like a year, 84 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 2: I think, But that was how doctor Solomon David and 85 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 2: I got to know each other. Was back my fish 86 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 2: hattery day. 87 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 4: Was that part of the program where you're like, oh, 88 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 4: if you want them to live, you're gonna. 89 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: Have to buy this other package. 90 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: No, no, they were, they were totally free. I was. 91 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,279 Speaker 2: I was just you know, doing it out of the 92 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: the goodwill of our Federal hatchery. And there was a 93 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: surprising lack of interest around the country from people not 94 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 2: wanting to take a lucistic paddlefish. But doctor Solomon David, 95 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: I knew him and I would like each other because 96 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: he was stoked on it. 97 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: Doctor David. 98 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 4: It says in our notes that you're a gar evolution specialist, 99 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 4: which strikes me as a really easy job. 100 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what's happened. 101 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 4: And then two hundred million years later, same same story. 102 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, it sounds like I don't really do much right 103 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 5: If you're studying gar evolution they don't actually evolve. Then 104 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 5: you know what what am I sitting here doing? You know, 105 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 5: which allows me time to go on meetator and chat 106 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 5: with you all. But but no, you know, I'm I'm 107 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 5: an aquatic e collogist, so I study how fish interact 108 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 5: with their environment and uh, with with other organisms. The 109 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 5: gar evolution side is you know, kind of a it's 110 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 5: it's part of my work and as you mentioned. Because 111 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 5: gars have these what we found to be slow evolutionary rates, 112 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 5: they haven't changed a whole lot in their appearance over time. 113 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 5: And as you described, I think Spencer is asking, how 114 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 5: did you not remember your first gar catch? You know, 115 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 5: they got that long snout, lots of teeth, the armored scales, 116 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 5: so they basically looked like that for the past one 117 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty million years. So even if you don't 118 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 5: all remember them, you know they they've been doing that 119 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 5: same thing. The next time you see them, they're gonna 120 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,720 Speaker 5: look the same as they did previously. 121 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 7: So they're really cool fish. 122 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 5: They've been doing the same thing for a long time, 123 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 5: and we're just trying to catch up with the science 124 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 5: because that's significantly lagged behind what we know about a 125 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 5: lot of other fish. 126 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 2: What other fish would have a similar story that they've 127 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: been unchanged for one hundred and fifty million years. 128 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, the next closest ones would be sturgeons, 129 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 5: and like like our story goes the paddlefish. So sturgeons 130 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 5: and paddlefish also have very slow rates of evolution, but 131 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 5: gar are still the slowest. There was recent research that 132 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 5: we did that came out this past spring led by 133 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 5: researchers at Yale and University at Buffalo, that's Chase Brownstein 134 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 5: and Dan McGuigan. I was a co author on that study, 135 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 5: and we found that gars have among the slowest rates 136 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 5: of evolution of any vertebrate. And if you kick out 137 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 5: hagfish and lampreys, basically you're talking about just vertebrates that 138 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 5: have jaws. Gars are the slowest, so slowest rates of 139 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 5: evolution compared to things like seal of cants and crocodilians 140 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 5: and sharks and you know longfish too. So they've been 141 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 5: doing what they've been doing, you know, since before Terrannosaurus rex, 142 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 5: and they've kind of persisted long past the dinosaurs. 143 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: Now, when I worked at the fish entry that we 144 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: talked about, I used to give a lot of tours 145 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: and we'd get to a gar in the aquarium, might 146 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 2: get a lot of oohs and ahs when I tell 147 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: people that pioneers would put the gar skin on the 148 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 2: front of their plows to break through fields, that gar 149 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 2: scales were used as arrowheads, that some Native Americans would 150 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: use them as breastplates that they used as currency and jewelry. 151 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: So those are some of the reasons I love gar. 152 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: But what about you, doctor Solomon. You've dedicated your career 153 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: to these fish. Give us your elevator gar pitch. Why 154 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: are they so cool? 155 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 156 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 5: You know, I feel like I gave away some of 157 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 5: that already with that. You know, that body plan that 158 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 5: you know hasn't changed. And they've been around since before 159 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 5: the time of like some of our favorite dinosaurs, like 160 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 5: they date back to the late Jurassic periods, so they're 161 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 5: older than t rex and triceratops and they've outlasted them. 162 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 5: If you look behind me, you can see some of 163 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 5: the gars that we've got. If you looked at a 164 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 5: fossil gar and you looked at a gar that's alive today, 165 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 5: they look very similar to each other. And they've got 166 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 5: those armored scales, which are basically made out of tooth enamel, 167 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 5: which is the hardest substance. 168 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 2: That our bodies produce. 169 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 5: So you know, they've got that armored scaling on them, 170 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 5: which works well for them. But if you're, let's say, 171 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 5: an angler, it makes them a little bit tougher to clean. 172 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 5: You can't filay them like you would a bluegill or 173 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 5: a walleye or a trout. But they've got all these 174 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:58,359 Speaker 5: cool adaptations that have allowed them to survive relatively unchanged 175 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 5: for such a long time. They can survive in fresh 176 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 5: water and salt water, as I think col and the 177 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 5: crew kind of found. You can find them alongside sharks 178 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 5: in estuaries. They've got poisonous eggs. Their eggs are toxic 179 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 5: to mammals, birds, and most arthropods. And they've got those 180 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 5: long jaws with lots of teeth. You can see the 181 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 5: picture when we're working with the Kala Kimmel out of 182 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 5: US Fish and Wildlife Service. 183 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 2: They get huge. 184 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 5: The alligator gar can get, you know, right around eight 185 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 5: feet long, three hundred pounds. Nothing really messes with them 186 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 5: except for humans once they get that big. And you know, 187 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 5: they've got this adaptation where they can breathe air too. 188 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 5: So you can see us working on this alligator gar 189 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 5: at a National Wildlife Refuge, and we can do that 190 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 5: with gars because they breathe air. If that was a 191 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 5: sturgeon or some other type of fish, it'd be trickier 192 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 5: because they can't stay out of the water that long, 193 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 5: whereas the gars kind of chill and we can take 194 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 5: our measurements, tag them and get them back in the water. 195 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 5: So really all these things have allowed them to be 196 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 5: successful for a long time. 197 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: All right, Now, besides just being like really cool and 198 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: interesting to nerds, why should anglers and game agency specifically 199 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 2: care about gar? 200 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think that's a great question. You know, 201 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 5: when you think about gars, they're great environmental indicators. There's 202 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 5: seven species of gars, and all of them tend to 203 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 5: migrate to an extent onto vegetation to spawn, so they 204 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 5: do have some movement to them. Alligator gars will make 205 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 5: big upstream and downstream movements. They move from rivers onto floodplains, 206 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 5: so they can be good indicators of aquatic connectivity. They 207 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 5: can also be hosts of freshwater muscles, which are also 208 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 5: good environmental indicators. And as predatory fish, they help maintain 209 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 5: predator prey balances, so they help keep you know, let's say, 210 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 5: panfish populations from stunting and overpopulating. They can help you 211 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 5: sort of help manage shad and other minno type populations 212 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 5: forage fish, and so they can you know, help sort 213 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 5: of keep ecosystem balance there and be indicators of overall 214 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 5: aquatic ecosystem help. 215 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: I think most anglers probably have a pretty low opinion 216 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: of gar and so It would be similar to like 217 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: a coyote. If if I were to suggest that state 218 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: agencies need a little more regulation of coyotes, I would 219 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: be laughed at. But could you say that with gar? 220 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 2: Do gar need slightly more regulation than what they have today? 221 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 6: Yeah? 222 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 5: I would say the short answer is yes, And I 223 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 5: think part of that is because we lack a lot 224 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 5: of the data that we have on other game fish 225 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 5: populations like largemouth bass and trout. I like to say 226 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 5: that we're one hundred years behind Walleye with what we 227 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 5: know about Walleye, which is Minnesota state fish, so we 228 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 5: got a lot of catching up to do. But because 229 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 5: they are important apex predators, ecosystem and environmental indicators, we 230 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 5: don't know a lot about their population status and health. 231 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 5: So we've got to catch up with that. And in 232 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 5: order to do that, I think protections are needed because 233 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 5: in a lot of states we've done an analysis on this, 234 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 5: they have unlimited harvests, so you can harvest as many 235 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 5: gars as you want. And we know that fish like 236 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 5: the alligator gar can live for over one hundred years. 237 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 5: The short nose gar, which is the smallest species, can 238 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 5: live for forty nine years, so you've got these long 239 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 5: lived fish and not enough data that we know about 240 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 5: their populations. We don't know when we might pass a 241 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 5: tipping point right to where we may not be able 242 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 5: to recover that population and keep that as a natural resource. 243 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 2: Now, a little treat for our YouTube audience is that 244 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 2: we are seeing some photos from Solomon with alligator gar 245 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: and one we just saw there was it looked like 246 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 2: I can tell if you were doing an autopsy or 247 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 2: if you were cleaning one for it to be eaten. 248 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: Have you ever cleaned and eaten these? 249 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 5: I have helped clean them, and I've definitely eaten plenty 250 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 5: of types of gars. You're looking at a picture from 251 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 5: an alligator gar rodeo that we work with down in Louisiana, 252 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 5: and this has been extremely valuable to our lab because 253 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 5: we're able to get samples and data off these fish 254 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 5: that are being harvested, and the stakeholders, the anglers there 255 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 5: have been really you know, happy to work with us, 256 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 5: and so we're able to share the data with them, 257 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 5: help sort of contribute to the knowledge about these fish. 258 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 5: And they clean these big alligator gars at one of 259 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,839 Speaker 5: the bars along the Ameet River, and then people come 260 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 5: to the bar and they eat fried gar garballs, which 261 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 5: are gar hushpuppies, and so everybody kind of has a 262 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 5: good time, you know, eating these fish and kind of 263 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 5: taking part in the value of these native species. 264 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 2: Describe the taste for me. I think a lot of 265 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 2: gar that people harvest end up in a ditch somewhere. 266 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: They throw them in their garden and write it off 267 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 2: as fertilized. But what did it taste like? 268 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, the tricky part is we need tin 269 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 5: snips to get through that tough, armored hide. And so 270 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 5: once you get through those tin snips, you got some 271 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 5: you know, two nice you know, backstraps of meat there. 272 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 5: And you know, I would say it tastes somewhere in 273 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 5: between fish and chicken. So it's not as you know, 274 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 5: sort of doesn't come apart as easily as salmon does. 275 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 5: Maybe not as tough as chicken might be. But you 276 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 5: can eat it a bunch of different ways. I've had 277 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 5: gar smoked, I've had an impanadas, I've had it fried. 278 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 5: A lot of different ways to eat gar, And I'd 279 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 5: encourage people to try it. If they do harvest a guard. 280 00:13:56,400 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 4: Guard like they're visual right, like they're up rolling on 281 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 4: the surface even in that like froggy you know, oxygen 282 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,719 Speaker 4: depleted zone that you try to like push through when 283 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 4: you're rowing. You're like, ah, nothing really lives here. So 284 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 4: they take up a really great space. They provide opportunity 285 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 4: where there's a lack of opportunity, and then from like 286 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 4: a fly fishing side of things, like they're really visual, 287 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 4: like you see them. Chances are if you get a 288 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 4: bait close to them, they're going to at least move 289 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 4: towards it. They're a really exciting fish. 290 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 6: Man. 291 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 4: It always bums me out when folks shoot them or 292 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 4: catch them and chuck them on the on the river 293 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 4: bank just just for no reason. Are they selective? 294 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: Though? 295 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 4: Like the excuse that I'll always hear for removing that 296 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 4: fish from a system is like, oh, they eat the 297 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 4: fish that I like to eat, right, are they are? 298 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: They? 299 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 4: Just like anything else, they have a preferred prey species 300 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 4: where they kind of general us. 301 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a great question. Cal they tend to be generalists. 302 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 5: They're predatory fish and they're opportunistic. So you know, studies 303 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 5: have been done on this on what gar eating. In fact, 304 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 5: that's the most research that's been done on gars is 305 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 5: what are they eating? Because people were concerned about their 306 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 5: game fish populations, and what they found is that gars 307 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 5: are eating whatever is most abundant in a particular area. 308 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 5: So sometimes it's gonna be forge fish like minnows and shad. 309 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 5: Sometimes it might be some triarcts like you know, sunfish. 310 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 5: But in preying on those fish, they help maintain balance 311 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 5: in those populations. And gars are pretty gape limited, so 312 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 5: they can only swallow their food whole, and so even 313 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 5: a four foot long long nose gar isn't going to 314 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 5: be able to take down, you know, a decent sized. 315 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 2: Bass or bluegill. 316 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 5: So they're really eating the smaller fish and that tends 317 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 5: to be the shad and the minnows. And I think 318 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 5: you bring up a good point about how you fish 319 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 5: for them. They are so adaptable that they can be 320 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 5: in rivers and streams and in these backwaters and in 321 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 5: water that's like chocolate milk. So you can fly fish 322 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 5: for them, you can you know, troll for them. I've 323 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 5: a fish for Florida gar on the Everglades. I've fished 324 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 5: for them in Texas with drones, and so they're an 325 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 5: exciting fish and like you said, you can fish for 326 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 5: them in places where maybe other fish aren't found as readily. 327 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 5: So down south you got boffin and gars everywhere you 328 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 5: may not have you know, you definitely don't have trout, 329 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 5: and so they kind of fill that niche there. 330 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: Solomon, I've heard you refer to gar as a gateway fish. 331 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: What does that exactly mean? 332 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think if you look at shows 333 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 5: like River Monsters that came out maybe almost twenty years ago, now, 334 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 5: that kind of opened the gate to these sort of bizarre, 335 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 5: sort of charismatic megafauna out of rivers, and alligator gars 336 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 5: are like that. If you look behind me, I've got 337 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 5: an alligator gar skull here from a seven foot ten 338 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 5: inch alligator gar that was about just over two hundred 339 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 5: pound and forty eight years old. So you got these 340 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 5: giant fish that people think are cool. They're very bizarre looking. 341 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 5: Maybe they think they look scary. They're not dangerous to humans, 342 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 5: but it serves as kind of this gateway to these 343 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 5: non game native species. 344 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 2: So maybe people learning a little bit. 345 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 5: More about freshwater bio diversity, or you know, what's that fish, 346 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 5: where does it live? 347 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 2: How does it get that big? 348 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 5: And that can maybe lead to people wanting to fish 349 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 5: for different types of species besides maybe traditional game fish, 350 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 5: and maybe a gateway to other species like different types 351 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 5: of buffalo or suckers or drum or boffin. So I 352 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 5: think Gar's work is a great sort of conservation gateway 353 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 5: fish to learn more about freshwater bio diversity. 354 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 355 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: I love the idea of that, because many fish that 356 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 2: resemble a carp just end up being a carp to 357 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 2: a lot of anglers. When there's small mouth buffalo and 358 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 2: big mouth buffalo, and there's short head red horse and 359 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 2: blue suckers and white suckers, and everyone could benefit from 360 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 2: learning a little bit more about those fish. In the 361 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: gateway fish, it's a gateway to It's a great way 362 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: to explain that. Now, the third annual gar Week is 363 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 2: coming up this fall. Tell us about what that is 364 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 2: in your role in the whole thing. 365 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, So Gar Week is coming. It's typically 366 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 5: in early November, but we're gonna be pushing it back, 367 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 5: so it'll either be late November or early December, but 368 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 5: gar Week twenty twenty four will happen. 369 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 2: It's kind of a. 370 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 5: Celebration of gar and native species, especially gar. What you 371 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 5: can see here is a picture that Spencer took at 372 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 5: the hatchery, which shows some kids touching a long nose gar. 373 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 5: So really that's kind of celebrating these kind of weird 374 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 5: ancient fish and kind of just sharing knowledge about gar 375 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 5: why they're important, you know, just some interesting facts, gar puns. 376 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 5: People have fun with it. We worked with Oklahoma Department 377 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 5: and Wildlife Conservation for the past couple of years and 378 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 5: they do a great job with their social media about 379 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 5: conservation and hunting and fishing, and so we'll be partnering 380 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 5: with a lot of different agencies this year. We look 381 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 5: forward to meet eater, maybe getting involved and just you 382 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 5: know what I like to say, spreading the word of 383 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 5: gar are and celebrating these ancient fish. One of the 384 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 5: pictures we're seeing here is I was recently out in 385 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 5: Maine talking to over three hundred elementary school kids about 386 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 5: gar and showing pictures of their long jaws, lots of tea, 387 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 5: them swimming with sharks, how slimy they are. And I 388 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 5: really think an important part of conservation and stewardship is 389 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 5: reaching that next generation because if we can get them 390 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 5: involved and interested in stewardship of our natural resources, that 391 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 5: will allow these hunting and fishing traditions to continue successfully. 392 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 2: You have my word, Solomon, we are going to help 393 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: spread the Gospel of gar This fall, we'll participate in 394 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 2: Gar Week. It's my third favorite holiday each fall after 395 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: Christmas and Thanksgiving. So I join you this week, Solomon. 396 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us. Fascinating stuff. You'll be back 397 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: on the show again soon. Thanks so much for having 398 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: me guys. 399 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: Thanks awesome. 400 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: All right, moving on, each week through the end of 401 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,200 Speaker 2: the year, we'll be getting either a rot report from 402 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: Mark Kenyon or or a migration report from Matt McCormick. 403 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: This week we have a migration report. Take it away, Matt. 404 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 6: Would you like to hear the drop for Spencer? 405 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, take it away, Phil, And then maybe 406 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 2: Matt we can play his video when you can sun 407 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 2: food and the Tam Sassoon. Then you suffer a right 408 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 2: Chrishan is the West. 409 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 4: Phil tries to keep a stone, just his poker face, 410 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 4: going unduring that. 411 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: What a treat. 412 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 2: I recently suggested to Phil we needed a new drop 413 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 2: for something. I was like, here, I think this is 414 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 2: an easy solution for this one, so you don't have 415 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 2: to be in the studio singing, and he's like, no, 416 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 2: I would like to do that. That's that's more fun 417 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 2: to me. 418 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,920 Speaker 1: So don't suggest to Phil how he should do with drop. 419 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 2: Listen, I was I was trying to make it easier 420 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: on him. 421 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: Many people have fallen into that trap. 422 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 2: Uh huh, Well done, Phil, Another great drop. Now let's 423 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: hear this migration report from Matt. 424 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 7: I'm Matt McCormick, Flying V, and welcome to Meat Eater's 425 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 7: migration Report for October seventeenth, twenty twenty four. I'm coming 426 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 7: to you live from the Kaiser Ranch here in Montana's 427 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 7: Pacific Flyway, and with a full moon overhead in the 428 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 7: first cold front of the season, we're all feeling that 429 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 7: migration fever. So let's jump in into the latest waterfowl action, 430 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 7: weather updates, and what's ahead in the coming weeks. Starting 431 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 7: here in the Pacific Flyway, that first cold front it's arrived. 432 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 7: It's right here on the horizon. 433 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: We picked up a few birds. 434 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,719 Speaker 7: Maybe you can see him behind us on the front end, 435 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 7: and we're expecting more to follow. Although conditions are still 436 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 7: dry east of the Cascades. This front should help everybody out. 437 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 7: Duck productions is strong and here at Flying V we 438 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 7: are expecting a banner year this year. Over in the 439 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 7: Central Flyway, things are kind of shaping up over there. 440 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 7: This front will drive some birds down from Saskatchewan into 441 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 7: the Dakotas, and we're all about to see some really 442 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 7: big migration days coming through the Central Flyway. 443 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: Where they'll end up, I mean. 444 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 7: Who knows, but I think all hunters throughout the flyways 445 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 7: should keep their eyes on the north winds. Things are 446 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 7: looking pretty prime over the next few weeks. In the 447 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 7: Mississippi Flyway, brace your guys' selves for impact, because you 448 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 7: have new birds coming in all your calendar. 449 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:18,360 Speaker 1: Birds are on the move. 450 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 7: We have reports from Manitoba and Ontario that birds are 451 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 7: moving south and it's shaping up to be a killer 452 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 7: few weeks for anyone in the north country. 453 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: The Mississippi Flyway. 454 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 7: Central southern regions. You guys will start seeing some fresh 455 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 7: birds here soon, So you got a little bit of time. 456 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 7: If you don't have your water dialed or your gear 457 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 7: dialed yet, now's the time. Finally, in the Atlantic Flyway, 458 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 7: duck numbers are building. It's slow, but that kind of is. 459 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: Always the case. 460 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 7: Recent rains, cooler temperatures, those will be a big help 461 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 7: for all you eastern shoremen. But things should start picking 462 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 7: up here as the bird's head south over the next 463 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 7: few weeks. That wraps up this week's migration report. Whether 464 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 7: you're in the Pacific Way chasing cacklers or you're playing 465 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 7: a road trip to North Dakota, these cold fronts and 466 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 7: north winds are set in the stage for some epic 467 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 7: hunts across the country. Stay tuned from our updates and. 468 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: Good luck out there. 469 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: Back to you, Spencer, Matt is feeling optimistic. 470 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 4: Cow is that a great excited? We're gonna get that 471 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 4: guy green screen behind. 472 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 2: Him, you know, like looking at the beautiful mountains of 473 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: Montana and the prairies of oh I. 474 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 4: Think, but you know, let's let's get serious. Let's get 475 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 4: him like the little arrows and the staff where you 476 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 4: can point you like now this high pressure system. 477 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, give him a live oppler radar. 478 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, we can really test Phil. Then, Phil, how 479 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 2: do you feel about? 480 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 8: Uh? 481 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 2: How do you feel about all that? 482 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 6: I'm willing to try anything, Okay, at least once. 483 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 2: Now, our next segment is one minute fishing. Do I 484 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 2: feel lucky? 485 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: We'll do you Punk, go ahead, make my cast. 486 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: One minute Fishing is where we go live to someone 487 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 2: who's fishing, and they have one minute to catch a fish, 488 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 2: and if they're successful, we'll make a five hundred dollars 489 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: donation to a conservation group. This week, our angler is 490 00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 2: the senior director of post Production, Hillary Byrne, who's on 491 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 2: the pond behind our office, and she's fishing for a 492 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 2: donation to Captains for Clean Water. Hillary. Welcome to the show. 493 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:24,719 Speaker 9: Hi. 494 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 2: Everyone, tell us about the rod in your hands and 495 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: what lu were you throwing today? 496 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 8: Well, I stole this from Seth's office this morning, so 497 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 8: he can tell you about it. Uh, the spinning rods 498 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 8: are more successful out here. So I left the fly 499 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 8: rod in the truck and we're gonna give Seth set 500 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 8: up a try. 501 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: Okay, Seth, you tell us about what Hillary's using there 502 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 2: to catch one of these office pond trout. 503 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: Oh you know it's the. 504 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 3: You know, the famous MEPs I believe on there, number four. 505 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 3: I think, mm hmm yeah, what color are. 506 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: You going off? It's the it's like the yellow with 507 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: the red dots. Oh yeah, oh well that's Panther Martin right. 508 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Panther Martin's. 509 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 2: And Hillary is not kidding this office or this fishing rod. 510 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 2: Just sits in the corner of Seth's office every day. 511 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 1: Now. 512 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: Hillary is an experienced fly angler, but doesn't have as 513 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 2: much experience with the fishing rods. So Seth was doing 514 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 2: some coaching out there before. How did that go, Seth? 515 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 2: You feel good about this? 516 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? 517 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 3: You know, at first things were kind of hung up 518 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 3: in the brush a little bit. Took a little bit 519 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 3: to kind of get the getting swing of things. But no, 520 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 3: she's doing great now, and I'd imagine she's going to 521 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 3: catch a fish here, right, Hillary, let's hope. 522 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: So we have yet to have a successful angler at 523 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: the meat eater pond for one minute fishing. Hillary, we 524 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 2: hope you are the first. Your one minute fishing starts 525 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 2: as soon as you take your first cast. 526 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 4: Go ahead, here we go. 527 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 2: What do you see in their cow? 528 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 4: I'm more into the music choice here. 529 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: I'm very moody. I'll tell you a little bit about 530 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: that pond. There's a lot of leaf litter on the surface. 531 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 2: A lot that showed up in the last few days. 532 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, which makes it tough, you know, get your cats 533 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 3: in one minute because you oftentimes got to clean off 534 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: some leaves. 535 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: Shure, he's waiting for another cast. 536 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 2: Hillary, You are twenty five seconds in. 537 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 4: I want a big old bass Master classic hook's up. 538 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be good. Good conditions today, right, Seth? 539 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, cloudy cold, like Matt was saying on the duct report, 540 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 3: cold front moved in last night. 541 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 4: Oh he may have had a cast into the grass. 542 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 2: Oh it's okay, nobody noticed. Hillary, you have fifteen seconds. 543 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: I don't think it's happening today. Sorry, Hillary, Thank you 544 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 2: for joining us, though I would blame Seth for you 545 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 2: not catching one there. 546 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 3: You know, I think after fishing this pond for about 547 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 3: a year, I think when it gets hot, the fish 548 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 3: stack in there because it's deeper, deeper water. But once 549 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,719 Speaker 3: things cool down a bit in the fall and in 550 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 3: the spring, they move up in the creek. Okay, that's 551 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 3: you know, filling that pond. 552 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: It's a diverse body of water. You're still figuring it out. Hillary, 553 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 2: Are you gonna keep fishing? Are you going back to work? 554 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 9: Yeah? 555 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 8: I'm gonna go try the spot that's apparently actually good. 556 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 8: But we had to be here because. 557 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 10: Of the Wi Fi. 558 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 8: So that's why I didn't catch any fish there. 559 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 2: You go made an executive decision when we were testing 560 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 2: out the signal. He said, you guys were too far away. 561 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 6: From the I sabotage. I mean, I'm sure the viewing 562 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 6: audience can tell. We've got a little Wi Fi and 563 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 6: self one single dead zone right where we like to 564 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 6: shoot all of our one minute fishing segments. So we 565 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 6: should invest in an extender of some kind. 566 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 2: Phil Horizon, all right, Hillary, thank you for joining us. 567 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 2: Good luck at the better spot. 568 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: Thank you. 569 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: All right, let's take a break for some listener feedback. Phil, 570 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: what's the chat have to say today? 571 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 6: You know what the chat's The chat's very active, but 572 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 6: not asking a lot of questions. So in the next 573 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 6: two minutes asks if you have a specific question for Seth, 574 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 6: Cal Spencer or Hey Crins in here too. You wouldn't 575 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 6: know that or Phil you could ask for Phil. Yeah, sure, 576 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 6: but we got a couple uh you know, Mogren, I 577 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 6: think you told me how to pronounce your name a 578 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 6: couple of weeks ago phonetically, and that actually made it 579 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 6: more confusing, so I apologize. But he asked Cal and trivia. 580 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 6: You mentioned that your dad can make two things along 581 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 6: was his own recipe of Shepherd's pie, but you didn't 582 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 6: mention what the other dish was that he could make. 583 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 2: And I guess he's just curious. 584 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 11: Ye. 585 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 2: Well, I feel like a classic Dad recipe would be 586 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 2: like either a hamburger or chili. Uh maybe like a goulash. 587 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 2: Since that's like similar, I'm gonna go with a chili spaghetti. 588 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: Spaghetti's top five mm hm spaghetti. So what what was 589 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: he better at? Shepherd's Pie or spaghetti? 590 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: I mean both both good? 591 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 4: I mean, like I said, you know, like both of 592 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:14,479 Speaker 4: those things are are like like coming home recipes right here, 593 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 4: like instant mashed potatoes, whatever frozen vegetables you got in there, 594 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 4: and some ground beef. 595 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: I'm still I love Shepherd's Pie shepherd spaghetti. 596 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 6: All right, this is a general question best hunt of 597 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 6: the year so far for you folks. It's almost November, 598 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 6: it's getting there, but I know a lot of you 599 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 6: guys have gotten outside smotion some things. 600 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 3: I'll start by saying, last weekend, my wife and I 601 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 3: both killed our biggest antelope to date. 602 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: So nice. 603 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 2: Hell Yeah, yeah, that was fun in Montana. 604 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: In Montana. 605 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh we actually found a couple of stone 606 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 3: points too, which was kind of cool. 607 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 2: Cool Ye darn right, Yeah, that's a good hunt. 608 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 4: It was a good weekend where exactly where you at 609 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 4: over over there in mont Hannah. Oh yeah, nice. I 610 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 4: ran out with Snort right before I left for Louisiana 611 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 4: and we had a great little bird walk we had 612 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 4: were fitting it. In between I actually had to take 613 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 4: two meetings in the field. Snort was not happy about that. 614 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 4: Then we did a bird loop and picked up four 615 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 4: Hungarian partridge and yeah, Snort's just crushing it. At four 616 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 4: years old, she's got a little bit more chill about 617 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 4: certain things. 618 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 2: You think she's entering her prime now. 619 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, for sure. 620 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 4: I mean I we missed the pheasant opener, so I'm 621 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 4: gonna try to make up for lost time here this weekend. 622 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 4: But yeah, and then hauled butt back here to the 623 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 4: office for another meeting. So it was a good one. 624 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 3: I got to share some pins with you because I 625 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 3: saw so many sharpies and hunts this past Oh you 626 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 3: did good. 627 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear. 628 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 4: The sharp tail report is. You know, they're down in 629 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 4: the areas where when it's really good you see sharp tails. 630 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 4: So they're they're kind of more in the core sharp 631 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 4: tail zones, but still doing good in those areas. 632 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, where I was, they were everywhere. 633 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 4: Hungarian partridges are thick this year. 634 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, my favorite hunt of the year was I bought 635 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: a white tail tag. You know, I know this year's state. 636 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 2: I've never haunted their season for this tag I had 637 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 2: opened on October seventh. I went over there, excuse me, 638 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 2: on October tenth. I arrived on October seventh so I 639 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 2: could scout, and I killed a buck on October twelfth. 640 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 2: I was a mountain mature white tail that I was 641 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 2: real stoked about. 642 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: Saw that one that was sweet? 643 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, good, Look did you have a good scouting or no? 644 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: I had. 645 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 2: The most productive scouting I had was just like seeing 646 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 2: the country because again I never like never hunted in Idaho. 647 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 2: I didn't see a lot of deer scouting. I did 648 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 2: a lot of doorkna door knocking, which isn't how I 649 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 2: killed my buck, but it gave me options, which was important. 650 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 2: And this was my first whitetail that I've killed in 651 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 2: the Pacific time zone. So now I want to start 652 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 2: a new group that's called the white Tail time Zone Slam. 653 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 2: You'll kill one in Pacific, Central, Eastern, and Mountain time 654 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 2: and I've now done that. And if I want to 655 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 2: go for the white Tail time Zone super Slam, then 656 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 2: I need to kill one in the Atlantic time zone, 657 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 2: which I could only accomplish in Canada. So sometime in 658 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 2: the future I'm going to do that. But I'm starting 659 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: a new club. If you want to join me, should 660 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 2: a message on Instagram at the White Tail time Zone 661 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 2: Slam what about? 662 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 5: Yeah? 663 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 4: I mean you could accomplish two time zones in a 664 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 4: day in certain areas pretty easy. 665 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 12: Yep. 666 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 2: Well, I've now done Pacific and if you wanted to 667 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 2: like have a super duper Slam, you could go to Arizona, 668 00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 2: who is still a part of I think the Mountain 669 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 2: time zone. But they do weird with daylight savings time where. 670 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: They don't respect it. 671 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't respect daylight savings time. So if you 672 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 2: want to do a super duper Slam, maybe you go 673 00:32:59,000 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 2: kill a coups. 674 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 13: Deer down there the super duper Slam, then you cover 675 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 13: it off the shoe board stuff. 676 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 6: All right, a couple more here. We've gotten this question 677 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 6: multiple times, but Andrew's asking, Hey, Spencer, have you ever 678 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 6: caught a gar on the Jim River? 679 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 2: Oh? Yes, The Jim River flowed about ten miles away 680 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 2: from where I grew off. The first boat I ever 681 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 2: bought was a four hundred dollars fourteen and a half 682 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 2: foot tiller boat, and that was bought so I could 683 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 2: fish on the Jim River. So I caught mini gar. 684 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 2: I'd have to be targeting catfish there and you'd get 685 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 2: these little light bites. And that was a classic situation 686 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 2: of where a gar was about to rob your bait. 687 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: Oh nice, nice, Yeah. 688 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 6: And then Cal, I threw this picture up when Solomon 689 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 6: was on the line. But here's your here's your gar 690 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 6: and fire on the bay. He is asking how long 691 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 6: did you fight it for? 692 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll throw I got I did get a good 693 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,479 Speaker 4: video because we actually had to rope that thing with 694 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 4: one of the bowel lines to get it in classic 695 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 4: This happens to me all the time when fish. We 696 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 4: just don't have a net big enough for the fish. 697 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 4: I can't, so you know, we're pretty good at getting 698 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 4: crafty out. There was somewhere in the neighborhood at twenty minutes, 699 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 4: not as long as you as you'd think. 700 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: Cal. 701 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I think I think I messed up. I 702 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 6: think I accidentally cut your audio off there. Do you 703 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 6: want to just restart that that question? I was trying 704 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 6: to give the picture its own solo stage, and I 705 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 6: removed our audio from from the show apologies, So yeah, 706 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 6: you want to say that again. 707 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 2: Pill is operator over the Yeah, jus. 708 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 4: Not as long as you as you think. I think 709 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 4: about about twenty minutes. We didn't have a net big 710 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 4: enough for the fish, which is a common thing when 711 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 4: I'm fishing, and we had to rope it with one 712 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 4: of the bowel lines on the boat. So super super, 713 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 4: super fun, really cool seeing that thing. I thought it 714 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 4: was a big black drum, So when it finally came 715 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 4: up to the surface, I was amazed, right because, yeah, 716 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 4: there's no way nine times out of ten you're not 717 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 4: gonna keep that thing on the line because of the 718 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 4: teeth and the how a brace of the scales are 719 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 4: on that thing. 720 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 1: So another snap the. 721 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 2: Line, another treat for a YouTube audience. You'd get to 722 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: see that guard that Count was just talking about there. 723 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,879 Speaker 4: Phil, Yeah, I noticed that there was a Phil question 724 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 4: there that you didn't want to answer. 725 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: Oh, well we'll get We've got another round at the 726 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: end of the show. Okay, yeah, because we all want 727 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: to know too. Edge of your seat. 728 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 2: Moving on. Our next segment is meat poll. 729 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: Say it's showy. 730 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 6: A meat ball is a take Welcome to me, eat Rady, 731 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 6: I got a game something. 732 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: But we should put all these like on an album 733 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: and sell it. 734 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 2: There we go. 735 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,919 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll stand out in Times Square trying to say hey, hey, 736 00:35:52,120 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 6: check us out. Trivia drops no addresses, Mario. 737 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 11: H. 738 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 2: Uh uncle Phil Cracker over there with another creeps. Wonderful job. 739 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 2: All right, meet Pole is a test of how much 740 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 2: you know about your fellow hunters and anglers. I surveyed 741 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 2: five hundred meat Eater listeners about personal preferences and personal 742 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 2: experiences in the outdoors. Your job is to predict their answers. 743 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 2: Now there are three questions. Whoever is the closest to 744 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 2: the correct answer between Cal and Seth gets a point. 745 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: The first person to two points will be the winner 746 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 2: in the chat. You should play along too if you 747 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 2: get it, like within one point of the correct answer. 748 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 2: Phil's gonna shout you out at the end. He's gonna 749 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 2: he's gonna watch who who has the right Well, Krin 750 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 2: is gonna watch as well. Uh, they're all gonna watch. 751 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 2: So put your answers in the chat. But this is 752 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 2: a game between Cal. 753 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 4: So you can't look at the chat. Seth, I'm not 754 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:48,720 Speaker 4: gonna either. 755 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's not like the chat knows the answer, 756 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 2: but they're just maybe informing you. 757 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:53,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, all right. 758 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 2: Question one. This question was for dog owners only. What 759 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 2: percentage of meat eater listeners said their dog sleeps in 760 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,840 Speaker 2: bed with them at night? What percentage? And go to 761 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 2: a decimal place for us? What percentage of meat eater 762 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 2: listeners said their dog sleeps in bed with them at night? 763 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 2: Cal dog owner? Where does your dog sleep at night? 764 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: In bed? 765 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 2: Your bed? 766 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 1: Yeah? 767 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 2: Seth dog owner? Where does your dog sleep at night 768 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 2: in bed? How about the cat? 769 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: Oh, the cat's in a different room, buddy. 770 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 2: Apparently Karen two, double dog owner? Where do they sleep 771 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:34,919 Speaker 2: at night? 772 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 14: Not in the bed, not in bed, on the floor, 773 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 14: on their beds if. 774 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: You're if you wasn't so damn big, I. 775 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 14: Mean like sometimes squid will get up on the couch. 776 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 14: But yeah, my dog is like one hundred and twenty 777 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 14: five pounds. 778 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 2: And then the other dog weighs as much as that 779 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 2: dog's leg. Yes, yeah, well also a double dog owner, 780 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 2: is that right? 781 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:58,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true? 782 00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 2: Where do your dog sleep at night? 783 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 6: And Blueberry of the Fruits Mango sleeps with my oldest 784 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 6: son in his room he's she's a little Australian kelpie, 785 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 6: black slick, full of piss and vinegar and blueberry, sleeps 786 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 6: in our room on the floor. He is a large. 787 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 3: Okay, God, this makes me want to change my answer. 788 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,520 Speaker 2: All right, So Seth and Cal, you have your answers 789 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 2: for again, what percentage of meat eater listeners said their 790 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 2: dog sleeps in bed with. 791 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: Them at night? 792 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 2: Go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Cal saying 793 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 2: thirty three point six percent, and we have Seth saying 794 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 2: sixty seven point eight percent. Koren, who's playing along for fun, 795 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 2: says forty percent. 796 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, we had a last minute entry just now 797 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 6: that I think is the closest one from the chat. 798 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 2: Okay, so what was your answer against Seth sixty seven 799 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 2: point eight The correct answer is forty eight point six, 800 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 2: meaning Cal gets that point. He was fifteen points off. 801 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 2: About half of the listeners said that their dog sleeps 802 00:38:59,120 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 2: in bed with him. 803 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,840 Speaker 6: You guys, unless I'm mistaken, Brian Bradford got the closest. 804 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 1: There were dozens of ANTISI. 805 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 2: Well done, one point five percentage points off of the 806 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 2: correct answer. 807 00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: Right now. 808 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 2: A recent study from Total Vet showed that seventy six 809 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,800 Speaker 2: percent of American dog owners allow their dog to sleep 810 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 2: in bed with them. Wow, so outdoorsmen or meat eater 811 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 2: listeners specifically or less than that. The number one reason 812 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 2: people don't allow their dog to sleep in bed with 813 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,280 Speaker 2: them is because of cleanliness, followed by concerns about fleas 814 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,320 Speaker 2: and because the dog moves too much. That same study 815 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 2: found that thirty three percent of married dog owners said 816 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 2: they sleep better next to their dog then they do 817 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 2: their spouse. 818 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 4: If I gave my dog flea, she won't matter, she 819 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 4: wudn't mind. 820 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: I don't get it. Sometimes like straight up mud in 821 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,879 Speaker 1: our bed. Yeah, exactly, you just get over that real quick. 822 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 2: Xeth. You sleep better next to Wiley or next to Kelsey. 823 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: Uh? 824 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,919 Speaker 3: Probably Kelsey because Wiley likes to She likes to get 825 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 3: real close. Oh Kelsey, like we're going to sleep. 826 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,840 Speaker 2: Uh huh okay that the dog on, he's got others. 827 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 3: And often oftentimes why he likes to sneak up and 828 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 3: like you'll wake up and her head's like on your 829 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 3: pillow with you. 830 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: Oh, or she's like at your she just all over 831 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: the place. When I first started, my labs were outside 832 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 1: of the year. 833 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 2: Then he loved them and they were. 834 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 4: I do think like, if you're interested in having like 835 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 4: very cold, weather resistant and water resistant labradors sleep, having 836 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,399 Speaker 4: them sleep. They can be inside with you and hanging out, 837 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 4: but when it's time to go to bed, they go 838 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 4: outside into the candle. 839 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: That's the way to do it. 840 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, not under the covers though. No question two, and 841 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 2: again we have con with one point, Seth with zero. 842 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 2: We need cow to get this right. Could be the 843 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 2: game to win or Seth gets it right, We'll go 844 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 2: to question three. What percentage of meat Eater listeners think 845 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,320 Speaker 2: they could beat a mountain lion in a bare hand 846 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 2: and fight to the death. What percentage of meat Eater 847 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 2: listeners think they could beat a mountain lion and a 848 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 2: bare handed fight to the death. Again, I pulled five 849 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 2: hundred people from our audience to get this answer. 850 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 4: I mean, your life is on the line, so you 851 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 4: better think you can win. 852 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 2: Uh huh okay. Cal has yet to write down an answer, though. 853 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 2: What percentage of meat Eater listeners think they could beat 854 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 2: a mountain lion and a bare handed fight to the death. 855 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 2: If you'll recall we used to do this as a 856 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 2: different show on med Eater Trivia, but when we talked 857 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,919 Speaker 2: about doing med Eater Radio. I thought I would peel 858 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 2: that off from there and make it a segment in 859 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,959 Speaker 2: med Eater Radio. I think it fits better over here. 860 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 2: So you're not gonna hear some media or trivia anymore. 861 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 2: Meat pole is going to be for meat Eater Radio. 862 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 6: Without revealing anything. Someone in the chat got it right 863 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 6: on the money down to the desk, okay. 864 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 2: And I see Seth watching. 865 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:56,800 Speaker 1: Yes, I've seeing. 866 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 14: Some And you guys have too much of an ego 867 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 14: if you're in the set. 868 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, unbelievable. 869 00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 2: Are you boys ready to reveal your answer? Go ahead 870 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,919 Speaker 2: and reveal your answers. We have Cal saying fifty four 871 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 2: point four percent of mediated listeners think they could beat 872 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 2: a mountain lion in a bare handed fight to the death. 873 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 2: And we have Seth saying twenty six point three. 874 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:21,439 Speaker 4: What's that game show? 875 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:22,919 Speaker 1: Phil? Show me fifty four? 876 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 2: Oh okay, which everyone from the crew strongly dislikes. 877 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: Not me, Spencer. 878 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 2: The correct answer is twenty one point five. Seth was 879 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,480 Speaker 2: just five percentage points away from the correct answer. 880 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 6: The alternate universe, Colin Farrell chimed in, oh, not the 881 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 6: meat eater. He's also a handsome chat, but he gets 882 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:45,919 Speaker 6: twenty one point five. 883 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 2: Colin Ferrell, well done right on the nose. 884 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 9: Now. 885 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 2: I asked this same question at the Boise Live show 886 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 2: in April, and thirty four percent of that audience said 887 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 2: they believed they could beat a mountain lion and a 888 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 2: bare handed fight to the death. So people from Idaho 889 00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 2: are more likely to think they could win that battle 890 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,080 Speaker 2: than just our general med eater audience. You believe that 891 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 2: cans that seem right based on what you know about 892 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 2: folks from Idaho. 893 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,080 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of cat hunters in Idaho, 894 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: so yeah, maybe. 895 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 2: Now, according to the Mountain Lion Foundation, fifteen percent of 896 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,799 Speaker 2: mountain lion attacks are fatal, but I doubt the other 897 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,840 Speaker 2: you know, eighty five percent end with the mountain lion dying, 898 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 2: So I guess we'll never know. 899 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 1: I was going to say fatal for. 900 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 2: Who All Right, here is question three. Whoever's closest between 901 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,160 Speaker 2: Seth and cow will be the winner? What percentage of 902 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 2: meat eater listeners think Seth is a better angler than Chester. 903 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,320 Speaker 2: Five hundred people from our audience answered this question. What 904 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 2: percentage of media trying to break up a marriage? I 905 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 2: think Seth is a better angler than Chester. I mean, hey, 906 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 2: this is a company who's had a turkey calling contests online, 907 00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 2: so I think we were it's fair game to ask 908 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 2: this question, Seth, who do you think? 909 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 3: I think most people think Chester is better? You think so, well, 910 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 3: he's just he's just kind of talking about it more. 911 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 4: Okay, who're talking about being better than you? 912 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? 913 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 2: Who do you think is better? 914 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: That's an unfair question? 915 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 2: Could we could go species specific? How about Walleye? Who's 916 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 2: a better angler? Whileye oh god, you have to go 917 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,000 Speaker 2: with that. Why couldn't you ask just like musky or something, 918 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 2: who's better at musky? 919 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:26,439 Speaker 1: Chester? 920 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 2: Who's better at trout? 921 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:28,320 Speaker 1: Chester? 922 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 2: Who's better at pass? 923 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: Seth? 924 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 2: Catfish? Oh? 925 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 1: Man, I don't know. 926 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 2: Okay, we're both we both have our strengths and weaknesses. Okay, 927 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 2: all right, So again the question is what percentage of 928 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,720 Speaker 2: meat eater listeners think Seth is a better angler than Chester? 929 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: Seth? 930 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:50,799 Speaker 2: Are you ready? 931 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:51,359 Speaker 1: Cal? 932 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,879 Speaker 2: Are you ready reveal your answers? We have Cal saying 933 00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 2: forty two point one and Seth saying forty zero point 934 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,760 Speaker 2: one percent. Wow, you guys are both in the ballpark. 935 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 2: I'll tell you that one of you is one percentage 936 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:11,759 Speaker 2: point off of the correct answer. The correct answer is 937 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 2: forty three point one percent, making cal our winner, and 938 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 2: Don Saltz says, salt say forty two point two well done. Down, 939 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,320 Speaker 2: So forty three percent of people think Seth is a 940 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 2: better angler than chesters. 941 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 4: I got one hundred percent uh radio live game win 942 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 4: streak going here. 943 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 2: Oh you won the field trivia and now me pull 944 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 2: you found a home field now, as we learned from 945 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 2: a previous episode im mediate or Trivia, my polling of 946 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 2: our audience found that forty two percent of anglers think 947 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,120 Speaker 2: they're a better angler than the average angler, which is 948 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 2: kind of off because I think it's like sixty percent 949 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,880 Speaker 2: of Americans think they're smarter than the average American, but 950 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 2: only forty percent of anglers think they're a better angler 951 00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 2: than the average angler. 952 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 1: I think that I think I'm better than the average angler. 953 00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Chester is the average angler. 954 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 1: I think that it should be. I mean, yeah, humbling, 955 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 1: Well you want I mean no, I mean you want 956 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 1: to have what you do? 957 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? 958 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 2: Well done, Cal as the winner there of our first 959 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 2: meat poll in media to radio. 960 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 1: I got a lot of people to thank. 961 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 2: So now our next segment is from Chester Floyd. This 962 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 2: is chettiqitt c t t qu e t. 963 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 6: T E find out bud means to me c g 964 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 6: t q you e t t E take care of 965 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 6: a GT. 966 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 2: This week, Chester is answering a listener's question about duck 967 00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 2: hunting on public land. 968 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 15: Hello everybody, my name's Chester Floyd, and I'm coming at 969 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,239 Speaker 15: you from yet another beautiful campfire in Wisconsin. We got 970 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 15: a real ripper going tonight and uh. Anyways, this week's 971 00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 15: chettiqit question comes to us from Ben ben Wrights, dear 972 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 15: meat eater crewe. Opening morning of Southern Zone duck season 973 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,320 Speaker 15: in Wisconsin, my buddy and I ran into a situation 974 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 15: that got us thinking about public land hunting etiquette. We 975 00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:20,439 Speaker 15: arrived at a pond around three am, where another hunter 976 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,520 Speaker 15: was waiting in the parking lot for his buddies but 977 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,840 Speaker 15: hadn't set up yet. We politely discuss where we'd be hunting, 978 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 15: but he claimed we'd be too close, even though we'd 979 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 15: be three hundred to four hundred yards apart. To avoid conflict, 980 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,280 Speaker 15: we moved to a different spot. His buddies didn't arrive 981 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,320 Speaker 15: until much later, and we started wondering the sitting in 982 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 15: the parking lot reserve your spot, or should we have 983 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 15: just gone to our original location since we were all 984 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 15: ready to set up. 985 00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,759 Speaker 9: We'd love to hear your thoughts well, Ben, I do 986 00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 9: have some thoughts for you, sitting. 987 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,800 Speaker 11: In the parking lot trying to claim the spot and 988 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,640 Speaker 11: open in the morning and trying to shoot it duck, 989 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 11: waiting on your buddies from the night before, the lad 990 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 11: hung over and feeling sore. 991 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 15: It ain't right. 992 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:21,880 Speaker 1: It ain't right. 993 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,120 Speaker 10: If you don't claim your spot. You can't do it 994 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:33,880 Speaker 10: from the parking lot and being nice. I love anyways, 995 00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,840 Speaker 10: you like that little song. I think you did the 996 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,960 Speaker 10: right thing of talking to that guy in the parking lot, 997 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 10: and I think you did the right thing on moving 998 00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 10: to another spot. 999 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 15: However, the fella, I think you might have called it 1000 00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:53,360 Speaker 15: in the email the parking lot cowboy or something like that, 1001 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 15: just waiting there for his buddies not set up. 1002 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 9: I don't think that's the right way to do it. 1003 00:48:58,600 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 9: To hold your spot. 1004 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 15: I think you need to be where you're going to 1005 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 15: be hunting, and that's that's my opinion. You need to 1006 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 15: be set up and then you can claim your spot. 1007 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 2: A phenomenal Chetti quit. 1008 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,800 Speaker 6: Phenomenal check chet does the actual musician ship work around 1009 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:18,240 Speaker 6: the office. 1010 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 1: I just I'm a I'm a joker. I'm a jester. 1011 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 1: It got weird Atlas, so. 1012 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 2: I told Chetty made a mistake. But I started doing 1013 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 2: these like singing with his guitar, because now he's got 1014 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 2: to do them all that way. It's too good to 1015 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 2: do a chettiquitt with anything but music. You boys have 1016 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 2: any input on on how that situation should have been handled, I. 1017 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 4: Think doing the parking lot, I would hope ripped his 1018 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 4: buddies a new one when they showed up, like being 1019 00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,400 Speaker 4: late like that. Yeah yeah, I mean if I'm the 1020 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 4: guy in the parking lot, I'd be like, gang, you, 1021 00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 4: thanks for telling me where you're gonna set up. I'll 1022 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 4: adjust around you. Yep, yeah, I mean he's not there. 1023 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 2: I agree. I think you and you and Chester had 1024 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 2: the right take seth anything to. 1025 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 3: Add, no, I agree one hundred percent. You can't hold 1026 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 3: a spot like that by just sitting in the parking lot. 1027 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 4: Right because it's like, okay, well, is being on the 1028 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 4: road to the location good enough to hold it? 1029 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 2: Uh huh? I mean, come on, dude, Yeah yeah, Chester's 1030 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:27,920 Speaker 2: gonna write a song about you if you try to 1031 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 2: pull that move again, parking lot cowboy all right. Joining 1032 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 2: us on the line next is Danielle Pruett, who has 1033 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,839 Speaker 2: a new cookbook out right now called Wild and Whole. 1034 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,359 Speaker 2: Yeah Book, It is beautiful. Danielle is going to talk 1035 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 2: to us about the proper way to brown ground meat, 1036 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 2: a simple step that many at home chefs mess up. Danielle, 1037 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:51,920 Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. Hello, doing good. Danielle is standing 1038 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,320 Speaker 2: in her kitchen right now, Danielle, Browning meat is a 1039 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 2: skill that every person should have. With that said, when 1040 00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 2: someone has told the brown ground meat, what do you 1041 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 2: normally see happen? 1042 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:03,399 Speaker 14: Oh? 1043 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:04,080 Speaker 9: They gray it? 1044 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 2: Okay, they gray it? What does that mean exactly? 1045 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:13,360 Speaker 12: Well, browning meat, I mean is like the term is 1046 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 12: coined because you're looking for a brown color in the meat, 1047 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,719 Speaker 12: but the whole purpose is to infuse flavor in the meat. 1048 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 12: So pretty much every recipe, especially like a braised dish 1049 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,840 Speaker 12: or a stew, you start by browning the meat first. 1050 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 12: It's not really there because you're trying to cook the 1051 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 12: meat through. You're just taking that step to make the 1052 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:41,440 Speaker 12: meat as a flavorful, needy, savory as possible. So when 1053 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:45,319 Speaker 12: you kind of like glance over that step, that's when 1054 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:48,240 Speaker 12: your recipe comes out tasting like really. 1055 00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:54,239 Speaker 4: Dull or just like lack luster, and no one the 1056 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:59,720 Speaker 4: kids say mid these days Danielle Brown whenever. 1057 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,600 Speaker 2: Okay, I think our connection dropped there for a second. 1058 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 2: Danielle walk us through step by step the process leading 1059 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 2: up to putting that meat in a pan. 1060 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 12: Yeah, So, as you can see, I got this plate 1061 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 12: that looks like it's just meat is just flattened out 1062 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:19,799 Speaker 12: on a plate. This is actually ground by north Bridge 1063 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,800 Speaker 12: or Bison. But I chose this because it came in 1064 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 12: like one of those plastic bags, you know, and when 1065 00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:30,360 Speaker 12: you defrosted juices everywhere, all that liquid makes it difficult 1066 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,440 Speaker 12: to brown meat. So the first thing I do after 1067 00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 12: defrosting is put it on a plate, and I've pat 1068 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,439 Speaker 12: it really really dry first. So that's like the first 1069 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,320 Speaker 12: step is don't just like dump a wet bag of 1070 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,840 Speaker 12: meat into the pan or else it's gonna steam it, 1071 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 12: and that's when you get kind of that grayish looking meat. 1072 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,520 Speaker 12: So really, the way I like to think about this 1073 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 12: is to imagine like you're making a giant smash burger. 1074 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,520 Speaker 12: Is kind of the easiest way to play it. 1075 00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm making a soup. 1076 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,359 Speaker 12: This is from IM. Let my pan get hot here. 1077 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 12: This is my cookbook, and this is the recipe I'm doing. 1078 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,879 Speaker 12: It's just like a really simple, like weak night meal 1079 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 12: soup with ground venison in it. So I'm making it 1080 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:21,120 Speaker 12: in this Dutch oven. It's a stove. It's an enameled 1081 00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,120 Speaker 12: cast iron, so it retains its heat really well. So 1082 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 12: you want to get your pan really hot, and then 1083 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:30,440 Speaker 12: you're gonna add some sort of fat or oil, use 1084 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,879 Speaker 12: something that has a high smoke point because you want 1085 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,319 Speaker 12: the pan really hot. I'm using beef tallow. I think 1086 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 12: tallow is a great great when cooking venison. But you 1087 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,560 Speaker 12: can use like avacat of oil, greate seed oil, or 1088 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 12: canola oil. Those are all high smog points. And the 1089 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,919 Speaker 12: reason why I like tallow is also because it has 1090 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 12: like a meteor flavor that I think just just taste good. 1091 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,840 Speaker 2: We can hear that pan getting hot right now, Danielle. 1092 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 2: Are we at medium high heat? 1093 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:01,120 Speaker 1: Medium heat? 1094 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 2: What are we doing on the stive? This is pretty good. 1095 00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:05,319 Speaker 12: This is like on high heat. 1096 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:06,840 Speaker 2: Okay, high heat. 1097 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,920 Speaker 12: Down, but you want to get it pretty hot, and 1098 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 12: I'll move the I'm by myself and hume, so I'll 1099 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,319 Speaker 12: have to. I'm on a tripod, So once I get 1100 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 12: this in, I'll show you what's going on in the pan. 1101 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 9: But the pan is like. 1102 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,799 Speaker 5: And then I take or whatever. 1103 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 12: And I literally just like lay it in there like 1104 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,520 Speaker 12: I'm making a big smesh burger. 1105 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 2: That that is exactly what that looks like. She is 1106 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:39,839 Speaker 2: now adding the ground meat to the pan. All right, 1107 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 2: Danielle is showing us the inside of the skillet. Now, 1108 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,319 Speaker 2: were you just going to be doing this in batches here? 1109 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,479 Speaker 16: Yeah, you don't want to put it all in at once, 1110 00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:52,239 Speaker 16: make it a little thicker, but I like to work. 1111 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 1: It's like. 1112 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,400 Speaker 12: That place allows moisture. 1113 00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, really really quick, guys. The steam, the set the 1114 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,120 Speaker 6: hissing from the pan is doing a number on Danielle's 1115 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 6: microphone like her auto algorithm settings. So it's not it's 1116 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 6: not her fault. It's just the microphones having trouble processing it. 1117 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,280 Speaker 6: But we can see what you're doing, Danielle. 1118 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, the interpret to interpret for Danielle here, what she's 1119 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,440 Speaker 4: saying is she's leaving enough room in the pan, including 1120 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:32,560 Speaker 4: like a little doughnut hole in the middle. So the steam, 1121 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,799 Speaker 4: even though she pre dried, pre padded dry her meat, 1122 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:40,800 Speaker 4: that steam is going to come out, and you're not 1123 00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,880 Speaker 4: gonna steam the meat. You're gonna get that nice kind 1124 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:48,719 Speaker 4: of brown crust evenly. And she's working in batches, not 1125 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,840 Speaker 4: putting everything in there at once or else you're just 1126 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 4: gonna inevitably build up moisture in there and you're not 1127 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,200 Speaker 4: going to get a good browning on your meat. 1128 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,800 Speaker 2: All right, Danielle is working on this first pat or 1129 00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,920 Speaker 2: this first batch in the pan. Danielle, what point do 1130 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,719 Speaker 2: we season the meat when we're browning it? 1131 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,080 Speaker 12: I'm walking away that better. 1132 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:12,040 Speaker 2: We'll find out. 1133 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:19,960 Speaker 12: Yeah, So I season it after I slipped with salt, pepper, 1134 00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 12: and then whatever else is in the recipe. I like 1135 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,640 Speaker 12: to see a little bit later because salt will draw 1136 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,759 Speaker 12: moisture out, So I let it get kind of a 1137 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,799 Speaker 12: nice crust and I'll flip it, season it, and then 1138 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,520 Speaker 12: season with like everything else that goes in the recipe. 1139 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,359 Speaker 12: So a lot of times you'll see a recipe that'll 1140 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:42,080 Speaker 12: be like add brown then add abc ingredient, and then 1141 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 12: add your spices like rosemary or whatever. But that just 1142 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 12: kind of gets the liquid flavorful, but not the meat. 1143 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,640 Speaker 12: So I feel like the season the meat you get, 1144 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,640 Speaker 12: the meat gets those flavors and then the liquid will 1145 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:56,640 Speaker 12: kind of like band. 1146 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,800 Speaker 2: When do we flip those patties now that we're turning 1147 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 2: into brown meat, She's about to check them out. Danielle's 1148 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 2: cookbook again is available right now. You can get it 1149 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,120 Speaker 2: at the meat eater dot com. You could get it 1150 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,840 Speaker 2: at Amazon, a lot of places books are sold. I 1151 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 2: have it sitting in my kitchen right now. I've already 1152 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:18,480 Speaker 2: made a few recipes out of there. One thing I 1153 00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:22,280 Speaker 2: really love about the cookbook, and it seems unique to me, 1154 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 2: is that it is separated by the seasons, which for 1155 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,600 Speaker 2: folks who go out and get their own food or 1156 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,880 Speaker 2: forage it or catch it or kill it, whatever that is. 1157 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,160 Speaker 2: That's a convenient way to think about your cooking. Danielle, 1158 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 2: give us an update there on the pan. We can 1159 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:39,760 Speaker 2: see it. 1160 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:40,680 Speaker 1: That's brown. 1161 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 2: That looks like brown meat. That's right. That is not 1162 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,080 Speaker 2: grade meat like you described earlier. That is brown meat 1163 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 2: that we're seeing. 1164 00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,440 Speaker 12: Yeah, and so chop it up in aiece. 1165 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,040 Speaker 2: Okay, she's flipped the burger. Now she's chopping Danielle. I 1166 00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 2: feel like when I'm at like some fine dining place, 1167 00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,360 Speaker 2: I get ground burger in my meal. That is like 1168 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 2: bigger chunks. But my instinct at home is to like 1169 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,640 Speaker 2: break it up into the minced the most mince meat possible. 1170 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,000 Speaker 2: What what what should I be doing? Is it like 1171 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,360 Speaker 2: recipe dependent? Is there a right way to do it? 1172 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:16,880 Speaker 2: The wrong way? 1173 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:20,400 Speaker 12: I think a lot of it's kind. 1174 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,920 Speaker 16: Of personal, so, and it has a lot to do 1175 00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 16: with the way that it's being ground and what's in 1176 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 16: the ground, how much fat's in the ground. So like 1177 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,760 Speaker 16: you know, like a sausage has a lot of fat, 1178 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,400 Speaker 16: and then you're you're sort of mixing it to like 1179 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,520 Speaker 16: sort of emosify the fat in the in the cold 1180 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,560 Speaker 16: water in there, so you're getting kind of like a 1181 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,840 Speaker 16: like a solid form with ground meat, especially like a 1182 00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,400 Speaker 16: recipe like this that's going to be all loose. I 1183 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:53,080 Speaker 16: personally like to grind it really fine in a way 1184 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:54,240 Speaker 16: that keeps the. 1185 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,080 Speaker 12: Strands as separate as possible, and then when you go 1186 00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,200 Speaker 12: to grind it, it gets into it like gets all 1187 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,160 Speaker 12: these tiny little bit of crispy bits. That's really good. 1188 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 12: The problem with like grinding it that way is it 1189 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 12: doesn't make the best burger because it doesn't stick. 1190 00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:10,640 Speaker 16: Together as well. 1191 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,120 Speaker 12: But it makes the best like loose round meat. If 1192 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 12: that makes sense. 1193 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:18,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Danielle has now taught us the proper way to 1194 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 2: brown ground meat, which is a great foundation for a 1195 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 2: lot of recipes in your cookbook. Tell folks about the 1196 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,160 Speaker 2: cookbook what they should expect to find in there if 1197 00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:26,840 Speaker 2: they pick one up. 1198 00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:36,640 Speaker 1: So connection there. Oh you're good, sorry, Danielle. 1199 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,800 Speaker 12: Oh, so the cookbook is. You can buy it wherever 1200 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,960 Speaker 12: books are sold. It's organized by the seasons, because I 1201 00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:47,640 Speaker 12: wanted people to get really excited about what's growing, what 1202 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,280 Speaker 12: you can haunt, what you can fish outdoors, to get 1203 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:55,040 Speaker 12: outside in nature and be inspired by the outdoors and 1204 00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,880 Speaker 12: be able to cook through the seasons. And so you'll 1205 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,200 Speaker 12: find all sorts of recipes, not just for wild game, 1206 01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,120 Speaker 12: but like a lot of really vegetable centered recipes. There's 1207 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,760 Speaker 12: even desserts in there, like for winter, I've got a 1208 01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,040 Speaker 12: duck fat chocolate chip cookie recipe. 1209 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:18,520 Speaker 2: All right, Danielle, Let's say that someone just picked up 1210 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,680 Speaker 2: the cookbook and they kill their uh, they kill a 1211 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 2: deer here in the coming month, and they bring that 1212 01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,560 Speaker 2: venison home. What's the first thing that you think they 1213 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,280 Speaker 2: should make from your cookbook? Give us your best recommendation. 1214 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,080 Speaker 12: Well, if you were asking my husband His birthday is 1215 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 12: the first of October or first week of October, and 1216 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:41,160 Speaker 12: usually likes to go archery l hunting, and if he's successful, 1217 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:45,040 Speaker 12: the first thing he wants for his birthday is venison tartar. 1218 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 12: He just likes to eat it raw. He gets really 1219 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 12: excited about that. But I think it depends on the 1220 01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:52,920 Speaker 12: kind of person you are and what your what you 1221 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 12: you know, what you like to eat. I think there's 1222 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,920 Speaker 12: some recipe for tenderloins with brown butter and sage that 1223 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:05,200 Speaker 12: it's very good. It's literally just those two things, super 1224 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 12: simple but really really savory, and those are kind of 1225 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 12: like the good like celebratory dishes. 1226 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, for the tartar recipe you're talking about, I made 1227 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:19,160 Speaker 2: that at home last week, and I loved the parmesan 1228 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 2: horse radish spread. I'm gonna I'm gonna use that now 1229 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:23,960 Speaker 2: like once a month. That's gonna be one of my 1230 01:01:24,040 --> 01:01:24,960 Speaker 2: go to condiments. 1231 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:30,840 Speaker 12: Yeah, that's really good on like if you're gonna make 1232 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,720 Speaker 12: a sandwich. So there's another recipe for like a venison 1233 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:38,120 Speaker 12: sirloin tip that's like roasted, kind of like you would 1234 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,560 Speaker 12: roast a prime rib. So it's like that rosy red 1235 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,160 Speaker 12: big honk of meat. Slice that really thin and put 1236 01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,040 Speaker 12: that on a sandwich with that parmesan horse radish sauce 1237 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 12: and it's pretty money. 1238 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,280 Speaker 2: All right, Danielle, Well, thank you for the lesson on 1239 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,080 Speaker 2: browning ground meat. Congrats on the cokebook, and thanks for 1240 01:01:55,160 --> 01:01:55,600 Speaker 2: joining us. 1241 01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:55,960 Speaker 11: Thank you. 1242 01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:01,600 Speaker 1: Thanks guys, good variety. Don't get bored with it. It's awesome. 1243 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:03,960 Speaker 2: Cal Have you broke into the cookbook yet? 1244 01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:04,200 Speaker 13: Have you? 1245 01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,720 Speaker 2: Have you experimented with any of the recipes. 1246 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,960 Speaker 4: I just got it and I've been out of town, 1247 01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,520 Speaker 4: but flipped through it, and Yeah, there's all sorts of 1248 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,520 Speaker 4: fun stuff in there. And there's some like non meat 1249 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:21,439 Speaker 4: things in there which I definitely could get a shot 1250 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:25,120 Speaker 4: in the arm over. I get obsessed over turning over 1251 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:29,400 Speaker 4: the freezer. Sure, so I'm more of the protein oriented cook. 1252 01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,640 Speaker 4: So there's like some Bruce Setta and stuff in there. 1253 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,840 Speaker 2: There you go, it's good for You're gonna explore beyond 1254 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:35,920 Speaker 2: the fall section when you. 1255 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:40,600 Speaker 4: Yes do it? Yeah, exactly, the squash blossoms stuff like that. Yeah, 1256 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:41,760 Speaker 4: that sounds good. 1257 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:42,280 Speaker 1: All right. 1258 01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,400 Speaker 2: That brings us to the end of the show. Phil, 1259 01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:45,760 Speaker 2: let's get some listener feedback. 1260 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:51,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, another big, big meaty question here. It'll work there 1261 01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,640 Speaker 6: we are, and more than ninety four says I'm looking 1262 01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:56,120 Speaker 6: for your career change. My passion is the outdoors. Any 1263 01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,200 Speaker 6: suggestions for a career to look into. 1264 01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,360 Speaker 2: We had a trivia question about this at one point, 1265 01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,640 Speaker 2: and Seth can speak to this more. But there was 1266 01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:08,840 Speaker 2: some polling done of thousands of Americans asking them about 1267 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,520 Speaker 2: their careers and their stress level and their happiness and 1268 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 2: their pay grade and time off and stuff like that, 1269 01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:19,640 Speaker 2: and that polling found that the happiest people, the happiest 1270 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:24,479 Speaker 2: Americans are working in the forestry industry. So I guess 1271 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,080 Speaker 2: that would be one of my recommendations if you work 1272 01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:30,280 Speaker 2: in a place that you're looking to just just be happy. 1273 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,600 Speaker 2: In general, those people seem to have less stress, they 1274 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:35,800 Speaker 2: were stoked on their pay, and really loved what they did. Seth, 1275 01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,120 Speaker 2: does that seem right to you? 1276 01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:39,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say for the most part. 1277 01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,000 Speaker 3: But I guess to play Devil's advocate a little bit 1278 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:48,480 Speaker 3: on that is, you often look at a forest in 1279 01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:52,280 Speaker 3: a different way that a normal person would like you 1280 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,400 Speaker 3: A normal person might go into a stand in trees 1281 01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:57,000 Speaker 3: and be like, oh, this is like beautiful, and whereas 1282 01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:01,080 Speaker 3: like a forest or somethings like there's an invasive you know, 1283 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,840 Speaker 3: these trees are like all I don't know, overgrown and 1284 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,520 Speaker 3: like not healthy, and you know, you just kind of 1285 01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,560 Speaker 3: look at things differently. But as a hunter, you also 1286 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,240 Speaker 3: look at it differently because you're like, oh, the like 1287 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,920 Speaker 3: this tree is gonna be producing fit here in like 1288 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,720 Speaker 3: a month or you know so, and. 1289 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:23,040 Speaker 2: I imagine as forest tree. It's a wide range of 1290 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,040 Speaker 2: education levels that you can have at experienced levels. 1291 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:26,640 Speaker 1: Total. 1292 01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:30,040 Speaker 2: Again, happiest career field among Americans. 1293 01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:31,240 Speaker 1: It is a great career field. 1294 01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,400 Speaker 2: Call anything, dad, Yeah, I think on. 1295 01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:40,360 Speaker 4: Our connectivity problem is really messing up the happiness of 1296 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:44,320 Speaker 4: that job. Because used to be out of cell phone 1297 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,840 Speaker 4: service for the most part, and as long as you 1298 01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:48,960 Speaker 4: were out of your truck and outside of the truck radio, 1299 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,919 Speaker 4: you couldn't be bothered, which I'm sure is what made 1300 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 4: those people so happy. Now it's like there's cell phone 1301 01:04:56,520 --> 01:05:00,920 Speaker 4: service down near everywhere. So yeah, yeah, come on. 1302 01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:03,760 Speaker 2: As we talked about with Solomon David, I was a 1303 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,160 Speaker 2: fish biologist in my former life and I loved it. 1304 01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:06,680 Speaker 12: That was. 1305 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,000 Speaker 2: Very fun going to work every day. 1306 01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:11,640 Speaker 1: It's oftentimes rewarding work. 1307 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:15,280 Speaker 6: Yes, sure, yep, John asked is there a release date 1308 01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,000 Speaker 6: for the new Meat Eater American History audio book? And 1309 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:22,720 Speaker 6: then Randall piped in in the chat, Hey, John, Meat 1310 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,000 Speaker 6: Eat American History Volume two comes out in February. We're 1311 01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:28,560 Speaker 6: actually recording it next week. The podcast studio is booked. 1312 01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:29,919 Speaker 2: H huh all week. 1313 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,800 Speaker 1: It's a b and my bonnet spencer. Yeah, but we're 1314 01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:33,520 Speaker 1: gonna make it work. 1315 01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:35,160 Speaker 2: And Randall's not stressed at all. 1316 01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:38,440 Speaker 6: No, he's doing great, uh huh, completely put together. 1317 01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:42,680 Speaker 2: So Meat Eater American History Volume two coming out in February. 1318 01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:43,240 Speaker 1: That's right. 1319 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:46,480 Speaker 6: A favorite thing to make with a bear shoulder. Micah 1320 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:48,360 Speaker 6: got his first black bear this year. You guys have 1321 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:49,880 Speaker 6: any shoulder tips. 1322 01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:53,840 Speaker 4: Green chili, it's a great one. Lots of connective tissue 1323 01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,120 Speaker 4: in the shoulders. The bummer is if you part out 1324 01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:02,160 Speaker 4: that shoulder there's actually really tender meat in front shoulders, 1325 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:07,080 Speaker 4: which a lot of people don't think about. But you 1326 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:11,080 Speaker 4: can cook that shoulder hole on the smoker and then 1327 01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:16,840 Speaker 4: part it out, drop it into like a green chili 1328 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,720 Speaker 4: or red chili chili Colorado something like that, and it's 1329 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,400 Speaker 4: it's absolute winter killer stuff. 1330 01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:23,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1331 01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,320 Speaker 3: I like I like just like blade roast, you know, 1332 01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:30,120 Speaker 3: like drop that thing in a crockpot and like being 1333 01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,680 Speaker 3: able to just pull a full scapula out of a 1334 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,120 Speaker 3: slow cooked piece of meat is pretty satisfy. 1335 01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, you get the old Betty Crocker cookbook and the 1336 01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:44,360 Speaker 4: Italian pot roast recipe for bear is great. 1337 01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've already been served bear. I haven't cooked myself, 1338 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,480 Speaker 2: but in part of my plate we cook some coyote, 1339 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,960 Speaker 2: which you have to handle similar to bear, because it's 1340 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:53,840 Speaker 2: a pretor and predator and you're worried about trick and 1341 01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:55,760 Speaker 2: osis that we just put in a crock pot. And 1342 01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:57,680 Speaker 2: I could have told you was any sort of red 1343 01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,640 Speaker 2: meat in the world and you wouldn't have known the difference. 1344 01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:04,320 Speaker 2: So as as Seth suggested, and cal croc pot might 1345 01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:04,880 Speaker 2: be the way to go. 1346 01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:07,800 Speaker 6: Do you guys have bucket list states that you have 1347 01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:08,520 Speaker 6: not hunted yet? 1348 01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:09,520 Speaker 1: It's from Enzo. 1349 01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,840 Speaker 2: Iowa we talked about on a previous show. We ranked 1350 01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:16,720 Speaker 2: the states would love to have a hunting property, and 1351 01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:19,000 Speaker 2: I'm building points in that state. It's going to happen soon, 1352 01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,320 Speaker 2: but I'd put Iowa on the bucket list. And then 1353 01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,200 Speaker 2: you know my new silly goal with the white tailed 1354 01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:26,680 Speaker 2: time zone slam. I got to go to Quebec or 1355 01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,280 Speaker 2: New Brunswick or something over there. 1356 01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:31,600 Speaker 13: How about you boys, I want to do the Kansas 1357 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:40,000 Speaker 13: thing like on probably East Oka, and then. 1358 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:46,560 Speaker 3: More so A bucket list animal rather than state is moose. 1359 01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,640 Speaker 3: But I mean I'd love to hunt one in Alaska. 1360 01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:54,080 Speaker 4: So cal you know, give me an excuse. I'll hunt 1361 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,600 Speaker 4: any state and be real excited about it. And the 1362 01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:59,880 Speaker 4: question that they were referring to earlier, that was directed 1363 01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:02,840 Speaker 4: at me from Colin any playser shows coming up? 1364 01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:03,640 Speaker 1: Phil? 1365 01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:07,120 Speaker 6: The answer is, yes, I'm not doing the Christmas show 1366 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,840 Speaker 6: this year, but i am. There aren't there aren't a 1367 01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:15,040 Speaker 6: lot of adult male parts in Annie unfortunately, but I 1368 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,760 Speaker 6: am doing a show in February that I'm excited about. 1369 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,400 Speaker 6: It's like I've it's it's outside of the big historic 1370 01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:22,880 Speaker 6: theater in Bozeman. It's sort of like an off I 1371 01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,360 Speaker 6: don't want to say off Broadway, but it's a it's 1372 01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:27,000 Speaker 6: a smaller play called The Minute, sort of like a 1373 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:29,960 Speaker 6: twelve angry Man, like a bunch of people deliberating in 1374 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:31,880 Speaker 6: a room. It takes place in real time. So like 1375 01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:33,679 Speaker 6: that kind of stuff is a blast, Like I'm really 1376 01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,240 Speaker 6: I'm excited to dig into it. So if you're in 1377 01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,760 Speaker 6: the Bozeman area in February, check that out. 1378 01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:40,000 Speaker 2: I will be I'm gonna go see it. 1379 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:42,439 Speaker 1: Could we call it off off Broadway? 1380 01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:48,400 Speaker 2: Maybe a few more offs, several anything else fill from 1381 01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:49,200 Speaker 2: the chat this week? 1382 01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:51,240 Speaker 6: I don't I don't know if you guys saw it, 1383 01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,680 Speaker 6: anything that that popped up that you guys want to 1384 01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:54,600 Speaker 6: want to tackle, but. 1385 01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:57,679 Speaker 4: Oh I saw is Is there a chance of Phil 1386 01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,320 Speaker 4: going out on a hunt that's going to be m 1387 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,960 Speaker 4: m oh, yeah, I did start that one boop it 1388 01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:04,960 Speaker 4: would be hunt that you will go on. 1389 01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:05,240 Speaker 1: Phil. 1390 01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:08,519 Speaker 6: I've I've actually been on a few hunts multiple with 1391 01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:13,800 Speaker 6: Ryan Callahan here. He got me my first pheasants. But 1392 01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,040 Speaker 6: nothing I do will ever be filmed. I can guarantee 1393 01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:20,720 Speaker 6: that I don't look forward to that. But yeah, I 1394 01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:22,200 Speaker 6: don't really have the fire and my belly for it. 1395 01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:23,400 Speaker 6: But every time I get out there, I just love 1396 01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:25,439 Speaker 6: being outside and learning a ton of stuff that I 1397 01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,160 Speaker 6: don't know much about. And Cal's a great, great host, 1398 01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:29,960 Speaker 6: So yeah, hopefully we can get out there soon. 1399 01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:30,559 Speaker 1: All right. 1400 01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:32,120 Speaker 2: That brings us to the end of the show, and 1401 01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,680 Speaker 2: we're starting a new tradition this week. We're going to 1402 01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:38,000 Speaker 2: end each show with a video. It might be funny 1403 01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,000 Speaker 2: or educational or gross, and this week's is a little 1404 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:44,360 Speaker 2: bit of all three. Here is Steve cleaning a sting ray. 1405 01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,240 Speaker 2: We'll see everyone back here at the same time and 1406 01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:48,880 Speaker 2: place next week for more meaty to radio. 1407 01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:52,800 Speaker 1: To demonstrate the low yield. 1408 01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:00,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, a lot of doing and you get in the 1409 01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,000 Speaker 7: tree and a lot of little bags come. 1410 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:03,200 Speaker 9: Out of it. 1411 01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:08,920 Speaker 1: Is there like the vivorous settings in the car? Five bird? 1412 01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,160 Speaker 2: What don't you call that Skatewe said no, just get. 1413 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:16,960 Speaker 1: A ring or anything. 1414 01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,000 Speaker 2: There's one, So. 1415 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,080 Speaker 1: We got a skin of you. There's steth plays. 1416 01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:26,360 Speaker 7: Realize the side of