Speaker 1: You're big into Halloween, right, I am big into Halloween.
Speaker 1: That's like you have you always been big into Halloween?
Speaker 1: Or was it when you had kids? No?
Speaker 2: Well, remember I did tell you a while ago. One
Speaker 2: of the stories I was telling you was my I
Speaker 2: didn't celebrate Halloween at all growing up. Not even that
Speaker 2: was when we would go to Disneyland instead of trick
Speaker 2: or treating. It was like a whole you know, religious
Speaker 2: aspect of not celebrating the day of the day and
Speaker 2: all this stuff. So my first Halloween, I was twelve. Wow, Like,
Speaker 2: my costume was nothing either. It was jeans. It was
Speaker 2: like cool kid costume, like being like, oh, we're going
Speaker 2: to be flower power, you know. I have bell bottoms
Speaker 2: like nothing, nothing, a little flower crown.
Speaker 1: Like trying to dress up but still be cool in
Speaker 1: him but be cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So no, not growing up, not at all. It
Speaker 2: wasn't until probably I think the first year I want
Speaker 2: to say I really got into it was when I
Speaker 2: was on tour with the Cheetah Girls. We all dressed
Speaker 2: up big time, found this really cool big we were
Speaker 2: out on the road and I don't know remember, it
Speaker 2: was like a haunted mansion slash at the end of
Speaker 2: it was like a club type thing. Like that was
Speaker 2: the first time really getting into you know, like a
Speaker 2: full blown costume. And of course they were we were
Speaker 2: you know, Disney after Dark. So I was like sexy
Speaker 2: Alice of Sexy Alice of Sexy Alice.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: But since then, I've loved Halloween. I just I love
Speaker 2: things that like people put on big productions of things
Speaker 2: to go do. I love the scary you know, not
Speaker 2: scary farm here or Hollywood haunt, you know that extra stuff.
Speaker 2: That's part of what I love about Christmas too, is
Speaker 2: you go and do outside stuff that's not around all year. Right,
Speaker 2: That's the kind of stuff I love about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you get now? Do you have a lot
Speaker 1: of trick or treaders to come to your house?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No, I do not live in a neighborhood that has
Speaker 2: a ton of kids. So we head out to you
Speaker 2: the Grinch. No, we head out to a neighborhood down
Speaker 2: in Newport. And this neighborhood is I mean, to get
Speaker 2: through all of it, you would have to take.
Speaker 3: Probably two and a half hours, three hours.
Speaker 1: It's ever you would get though decked out.
Speaker 2: It's just awesome, so fun and Monroe was Marilyn Monroe
Speaker 2: last night last year.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: She wore a tiny little blonde wig and everything, a
Speaker 2: replica of a costume I wore for Dancing with the
Speaker 2: Stars in Las Vegas. I made a full replica. And
Speaker 2: she had those little click clack plastic heels little girls wear,
Speaker 2: and I took her an extra pair, going She's gonna
Speaker 2: last like thirty seconds in these Little Homegirl. She walked
Speaker 2: around for forty five minutes in the She loved those shoes.
Speaker 2: She was killing it. She loved her dress, her white gloves,
Speaker 2: I mean everything about her. She just loved her so funny.
Speaker 2: I hadn't. I haven't sent out a video of it,
Speaker 2: but I probably should. Leading up to this whole.
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it, so we got it Nice.
Speaker 2: I'll personally send it to you because I know you're
Speaker 2: not honest.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I just personally sent it to send it to
Speaker 2: you guys, so you.
Speaker 1: Guys can enjoy it. Well. Welcome back to Magical Rewind,
Speaker 1: the show that makes you want to grab your friends,
Speaker 1: your pjs, and your popcorn and go back to a
Speaker 1: time when all the houses were smart. The Waves, Tsunamis
Speaker 1: and the high School's musical I'm Wilford Dell.
Speaker 3: And I'm Sabrina Brian.
Speaker 1: Well, as we've been talking about, it is officially that
Speaker 1: time of the year people, Ghouls, ghosts, goblins, and pumpkin
Speaker 1: drinks at Starbucks that have a ton a ton of calories.
Speaker 1: Make sure you check the nutrition on those labels. People.
Speaker 1: So we're doing our part and recapping the October classic
Speaker 1: d com. Yes, it is nineteen ninety eight Halloween Town
Speaker 1: a franchise in its own right. The original installment the
Speaker 1: series aired on October seventeenth, nineteen ninety eight, and has
Speaker 1: since become a yearly tradition for many fans, becoming one
Speaker 1: of the many seasonal standards for Disney. Now, this is
Speaker 1: so cool. The entire franchise was born out of just
Speaker 1: a single question asked by the young daughter of producers
Speaker 1: Steve White and Sherry Singer. The question was, where do
Speaker 1: all the creatures from Halloween go the rest of the
Speaker 1: year if it's not October thirty first and the rest
Speaker 1: is history? Isn't that the coolest? I justz you never
Speaker 1: know when you're gonna get that spark of inspiration, and
Speaker 1: there it is. It was actually first conceived as something
Speaker 1: very dark and scary for an older demographic for NBC
Speaker 1: who passed on it. Then it was pitched to Disney
Speaker 1: with a focus for kids, and they also passed on it.
Speaker 1: But after the success of The Mummy centered first Halloween
Speaker 1: dcom under Wraps, which we haven't done yet but we will,
Speaker 1: they went back to White and Singer and said, Okay,
Speaker 1: about that movie you were talking about that was like Halloween.
Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently kids let Halloween.
Speaker 1: They do what weird? It's wait a second, kids in Halloween.
Speaker 1: I never thought to put the two together, Peanut Butter
Speaker 1: and Joey, You're crazy. It had a budget of just
Speaker 1: four million dollars, which is incredible to think about considering
Speaker 1: the amount of makeup and the costumes in the movie.
Speaker 1: And it was filmed over twenty four very hot summer
Speaker 1: days in Saint Helen, Oregon. Is it Saint Helen or
Speaker 1: Helen's It was an Oregon and it was a Saint.
Speaker 1: It is a town that now every year holds the
Speaker 1: Spirit of Halloween Festival in celebration of this film. This
Speaker 1: also marked the movie's twenty fifth anniversary last year, and
Speaker 1: it has regular screenings every year all over the United
Speaker 1: States to ring in the spooky season. It would also
Speaker 1: spawn three sequels, Halloween Town two and No, it is
Speaker 1: not Halloween Toown two this time it's personal, which is
Speaker 1: what all our sequels are called. This is Halloween Toown
Speaker 1: two Klibars Revenge in two thousand and one, Halloween Town
Speaker 1: High in two thousand and four, and return to Halloween
Speaker 1: Town in two thousand and six. And as you can
Speaker 1: probably guess, Halloween Town is a Disney Plus favorite around Halloween.
Speaker 1: So you can watch it right now in the streaming
Speaker 1: service or just go Bob for apples and then listen
Speaker 1: to us first. We're We're never gonna know frankly either way.
Speaker 1: So we asked this every time. What was your your
Speaker 1: history with Halloween Town? This had to be in your
Speaker 1: wheelhouse because this is right in the Johnny Tsunami time.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, I will say I definitely watched it, and
Speaker 2: I probably watched it a couple of times, but it
Speaker 2: was so long ago. While rewatching it, I started it going,
Speaker 2: I can't wait for this. I've got my popcorn, I've
Speaker 2: got Monroe. I'm so excited. It starts and I'm like, whoop,
Speaker 2: It's like my memory just.
Speaker 1: What I really remember.
Speaker 2: The storyline that kept coming going oh yeah, okay, all right,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, okay, years ago. It was I mean, it
Speaker 2: just was. It felt like rewatching. It felt like watching
Speaker 2: it for the first time, with a few things that
Speaker 2: I remember. Of course, I you know, I loved it.
Speaker 2: I had to pull myself back a little bit more
Speaker 2: this time from being nitpicky and letting myself get into
Speaker 2: because this is much like when we had the world
Speaker 2: of you know, the superheroes and stuff. It's much like that,
Speaker 2: where it's more comical or you know, like yeah, a
Speaker 2: comic type cartoony, thank you. It is more that. And
Speaker 2: I started nitpicking things and I had to like relax,
Speaker 2: and once I did.
Speaker 3: I mean, it just it was a blast.
Speaker 1: That's that's great. Yes, well, okay, so before we hide
Speaker 1: on a flying bus and force our way into our
Speaker 1: grandmother's terrifying neighborhood, let's get in to the synopsis. When
Speaker 1: a young girl living with her secret witch mother learns
Speaker 1: she too is a witch. She must help her witch grandmother.
Speaker 1: We're gonna say, witch a lot save Halloween Town from
Speaker 1: evil forces. So you then you loved it. That's your
Speaker 1: early thoughts of you love this was?
Speaker 2: This was a great one. I love. I mean as
Speaker 2: soon as it got going and I started, once it
Speaker 2: started coming back to me, I was like, okay, when
Speaker 2: they got to Halloween Town, now I'm in it.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Right. This is one of the few ones that I
Speaker 1: had heard of, mostly because Kimberly's Abud your friend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I you know, I but I'd never seen it.
Speaker 1: But I'd heard of the film. I obviously knew the
Speaker 1: film's popularity and knew that it had spawned essentially an
Speaker 1: entire franchise. So I knew of the movie, didn't know
Speaker 1: what to expect going in, had no idea, And I
Speaker 1: loved it. I really did, because because exactly for what
Speaker 1: it was, this was so nineties Disney Channel to me, yes,
Speaker 1: kind of the magic system that doesn't make a whole
Speaker 1: lot of sense, big fun costumes. It was. I was
Speaker 1: in hook Line and Sinker. It was great.
Speaker 2: This was it. This was for me an incredible example
Speaker 2: of what my Disney Channel was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can say again we talk about the different
Speaker 1: iterations of Disney Channel and this late nineties, big classic
Speaker 1: kind of crazy costumes and get ups and weird little
Speaker 1: brothers and little sisters and the grandmother with a secret.
Speaker 2: It's all it's y Aby from the start. As soon
Speaker 2: as she starts her lines, it's like, Yeah, she's just
Speaker 2: so amazing.
Speaker 1: She's just a child that just comes through the screen.
Speaker 1: We saw it in Quints, which wasn't our favorite movie
Speaker 1: but wasn't Dad, but still she was phenomenal, and I
Speaker 1: know we'll have her. We don't have her on for
Speaker 1: this one, we will have her on for one of
Speaker 1: Halloween Towns, definitely. Halloween Town was directed by Dwayne Dunham,
Speaker 1: a name we've mentioned before, as he also directed The
Speaker 1: Thirteenth Year, the movie about the bar Mitzvay that we
Speaker 1: talked about. No way it was about Mermaids if you forgot.
Speaker 1: He was also behind the movie Little Giants and dcoms
Speaker 1: like Double Teamed and Tiger Cruz, but is best known
Speaker 1: as the Emmy winning editor of Twin Peaks, Blue Velvet,
Speaker 1: and Return of the Jedi. Yikes. He was originally sold
Speaker 1: on doing the movie because he was told it would
Speaker 1: have a thirty million dollar budget, so imagine his reaction
Speaker 1: when it had just four. But it really is his
Speaker 1: complex direction with the inhabitants of Halloween Town that gives
Speaker 1: this movie some depth and makes it look like he
Speaker 1: had maybe not thirty million, but certainly didn't look like
Speaker 1: he had. Four the movie stars as we were just
Speaker 1: talking about, Kimberly J. Brown as Marnie Piper, a legendary
Speaker 1: child actor who made history by being in three Broadway
Speaker 1: shows by the age of nine. I hadn't seen three
Speaker 1: Broadway shows by the age of nineteen. She also got
Speaker 1: an Emmy nomination at eleven for her time on Guiding Light.
Speaker 1: She was also in The decom Quins, which we just
Speaker 1: talked about, as well as movies like Bringing Down the
Speaker 1: House and Tumbleweeds. She appears in Uh this is I
Speaker 1: don't even know why. I'm sure we'll get into it.
Speaker 1: I just bear with me. She appears in the first
Speaker 1: three of four Halloween Towns with a very controversial recasting,
Speaker 1: so they recast her in four.
Speaker 2: There's no way, just seems like there's no way recannist
Speaker 2: to recast.
Speaker 1: That no one else was happy about, and apparently most
Speaker 1: of the rest of the cast was back, but they
Speaker 1: recast her for shame, for shame, for shame.
Speaker 2: Hard would it be for the rest of the cast?
Speaker 2: So I don't pressure of the actor, the pressure of
Speaker 2: the actors to create this chemistry. Oh gosh, I can't
Speaker 2: believe it.
Speaker 1: It makes no sense. I want to find out.
Speaker 2: Right, write out, write her out.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, one of our producers at a high
Speaker 1: Heart we just had in our chat in giant letters
Speaker 1: ruined me. Yes, so you it.
Speaker 2: I imagine.
Speaker 1: Oh that's my buddy too, So don't you dare anyway?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Brown has also become a bit of a Halloween expert herself,
Speaker 1: writing the twenty sixteen children's book Poppin's Pumpkin Patch Parade,
Speaker 1: Say that five times fast Pop Parade, Popins, pump I'm
Speaker 1: not on the tent, and running an Etsy shop with
Speaker 1: some Halloween town themed merchandise. She got married in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four. We talked about that with Matres on the show,
Speaker 1: but we will get more into that a little bit later.
Speaker 1: And what we called the Dabney Coleman Chair but will
Speaker 1: now officially be renaming the Coleman Reynolds Chair is the
Speaker 1: legendary Debbie Reynolds.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, and she was magical.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, and people use the word legendary, they
Speaker 1: throw that around. This is a woman who deserves the
Speaker 1: moniker and it should be in bold letters and Neon
Speaker 1: signs everywhere she went. Legendary Debbie Reynolds. She was a
Speaker 1: massive get for Disney and it is undeniably the reason
Speaker 1: why this movie has had the longevity. It's had. The
Speaker 1: other cast phenomenal, but it's Debbie Reynolds. She had a
Speaker 1: Hollywood career spanning almost seventy years. She's best known for
Speaker 1: roles in movies like Singing in the Rain, How the
Speaker 1: West Was Won, The Singing Nun, The Unsinkable Molly Brown,
Speaker 1: which got her an Oscar nomination, and Mother, But she
Speaker 1: was way ahead of her time as a multiple threat
Speaker 1: the tabloid magnet. Was a pop star, a cabaret performer,
Speaker 1: opening her own dance studio in North Hollywood, a Tony
Speaker 1: nominated theater performer for Irene, A massive TV drawn shows
Speaker 1: like The Debbie Reynolds Show and Will and Grace, which
Speaker 1: also got her an Emmy nomination. She was also a
Speaker 1: massive philanthropist and entrepreneur, owning her own Las Vegas casino
Speaker 1: and hotel, and curating a very well regarded collection of
Speaker 1: film memorabilia. Debbie Reynolds unfortunately died on December twenty eighth,
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, one day after the death of her daughter,
Speaker 1: Princess Leah herself Carrie Fisher. Also for our younger listeners,
Speaker 1: that makes Debbie Reynolds the grandmother of actress Billy Lord.
Speaker 1: She is an absolute Hollywood I.
Speaker 2: Don't know if you remember when Corbyn and I were
Speaker 2: talking about this famous Debbie Reynolds studio.
Speaker 1: I mean it's yes, I do.
Speaker 2: Anyone who has worked a day as a dancer in
Speaker 2: Hollywood has been.
Speaker 1: There or should have and it's still there.
Speaker 2: Uh yes. And what was cool back when you know
Speaker 2: I was auditioning when I was little, is you'd see
Speaker 2: Debbie behind the counter as you're checking in, you're signing in.
Speaker 1: So you met Debbie Reynolds.
Speaker 2: I mean in passing she was there, but it was
Speaker 2: this was her place, Like it's so cool when you
Speaker 2: felt her there, you know, it was amazing. And then
Speaker 2: after going ever back that place is just like, oh,
Speaker 2: I hope it just yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean it's she's Debbie Reynolds.
Speaker 2: That's awesome, yes, anyways, but it was cool for her
Speaker 2: to be like working, not someone else. She was right there.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Then we have Judith Hoague as Gwen Cromwell Piper,
Speaker 1: another distinguished child actor. By the time of this movie,
Speaker 1: she'd appeared on TV shows like Quantum Leap, Awesome Show,
Speaker 1: Roseanne Awesome Show, and melrose Place Awesome Show, Ooh, Michael Anyway,
Speaker 1: and the blockbuster blockbuster movie Armageddon. But she's best known
Speaker 1: wait for it, as April O'Neil in the nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: teenage mutant Ninja Turtle's movie. She is constantly working to
Speaker 1: this day on TV, and she was seen in the
Speaker 1: movies Hitchcock and I Am Number Four, and she does
Speaker 1: appear in all four of the Halloween Town movies. So
Speaker 1: we got a anyway. I'm sorry, I'm just trying. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to move on from several things. Kim the thing
Speaker 1: of Kimberly upset me, and now I'm just thinking about
Speaker 1: Michael from melrose Place. So give me a moment. People,
Speaker 1: It'll be fine. You'll be okay, I'll be okay. I'll
Speaker 1: breathe through it. Joey Zimmerman plays Dylan Piper. He was
Speaker 1: also a busy kid actor on shows like Earth two
Speaker 1: and Frasier I thought Earth one was better. But most importantly,
Speaker 1: he is only one of three other actors in including himself,
Speaker 1: Hoague and Debbie Reynolds. We found out to do all
Speaker 1: four Halloween Town movies. Now, we maybe getting a little
Speaker 1: ahead of ourselves, but Halloween Town had been in the
Speaker 1: news this year. This is what we're talking about. When
Speaker 1: Kimberly J. Brown got married to actor Daniel Koontz, who
Speaker 1: was her co star in Halloween two. This time it's personal.
Speaker 1: They reconnected years later and now they are a husband
Speaker 1: and wife and they have this movie franchise to think
Speaker 1: and people think magic isn't real. The movie has a
Speaker 1: brisk eighty four minutes, and man, it felt like it
Speaker 1: was eighty four minutes. This movie felt short. It could
Speaker 1: have been longer, which I very rarely say with movies,
Speaker 1: but it could have been. I was enjoying myself and
Speaker 1: it seemed to move by quickly. It was written originally
Speaker 1: by Paul Bernbaum. He was the dude who had first
Speaker 1: made it into the more adult version. Had credits on
Speaker 1: twenty one Jump Street and the TV adaptation of Bill
Speaker 1: and Ted's excellent adventure Strange Things Are a Foot at
Speaker 1: the Circle k and Martial Law. He also wrote the
Speaker 1: Nicholas Cage movie Next two thousand and six, crime mystery,
Speaker 1: Hollywood Land, and then when Disney gave at the green light,
Speaker 1: they brought in John Cooksey and Ali Marie Matheson that
Speaker 1: were kind of brought it into Kit it Up because
Speaker 1: they both came from the Rugrats universe and would later
Speaker 1: go on to create the TV show The Collector together.
Speaker 2: I loved Rugrats.
Speaker 1: Rugrats was great. Also worth noting the score, which is
Speaker 1: very very good, is from Mark Mothersbaw, who has gone
Speaker 1: on to become a premiere name in music for TV
Speaker 1: and movies. But the cool thing is he was the
Speaker 1: frontman for what Whip It goodt?
Speaker 2: Yes, Divo, That's what Divo is? I love that song?
Speaker 1: Did you just say that's what Divo is?
Speaker 2: I saw it in the paperwork, but I wasn't sure
Speaker 2: what it was. Sorry, Little There's sometimes where I can't
Speaker 2: believe you know what some of the bands, well, you know,
Speaker 2: you don't know any of them. I could probably go.
Speaker 1: Ahead, give me one in Syne. Moving on Sabrina. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's say you can have one prop from Halloween Town
Speaker 1: and it can't be either Posters, event Sync or Devo.
Speaker 1: It could even be a costume you saw in the movie.
Speaker 1: What's the one thing you would take to decorate your
Speaker 1: home from Halloween Town.
Speaker 2: Oh, to decorate I thought to have if it worked,
Speaker 2: I would have taken a broom. That would have been cool.
Speaker 1: But no, we're gonna pretend that brooms don't work in
Speaker 1: real life. It's a prop from the movie, not actually
Speaker 1: being able to take magic away?
Speaker 2: Does it have to like? I don't feel like any
Speaker 2: of the.
Speaker 1: It's whatever you want. What do you want from the movie.
Speaker 2: It can't be a costume, because I yes, it can.
Speaker 1: It could be whatever you want.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'd like her cape. That cape was cool. It's
Speaker 2: a good case, and I do feel like that cape
Speaker 2: is something that I remember from when this franchise was out,
Speaker 2: was the cape that is her cape throughout Okay, her
Speaker 2: time on that that would be a signature thing as
Speaker 2: a costume.
Speaker 3: Oh, you're you're Marnie.
Speaker 1: You know, I got that makes sense.
Speaker 4: I'm sure you guys are going to get to it.
Speaker 4: But I do want to jump in when you guys
Speaker 4: mentioned the broom because I do want to say that
Speaker 4: I think it's the worst prop in dcom history.
Speaker 1: It's awful.
Speaker 4: It's a color broom.
Speaker 1: It's off. That's it. Yeah, this is not the Nimbus
Speaker 1: two thousand that you buy in Diagon Alley. By any
Speaker 1: stretch of the imagination, this is insane. It's bad collar broom.
Speaker 1: It really is bad. It's like what it's like one
Speaker 1: of those really crappy rooms that they went make it pink,
Speaker 1: it'll be fine, But they don't.
Speaker 4: They don't skimp on the other props either.
Speaker 1: Because the thing that I would want to keep, I
Speaker 1: would want the robot skeleton cab driver. Really yeah, I
Speaker 1: want that in my house. That's god be a great
Speaker 1: prop to have.
Speaker 2: He was better than the one that did some you know,
Speaker 2: hip hop dancing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and what was that that was in uh
Speaker 1: where where he's the cool kid and then not cool kid.
Speaker 2: He's got the remote control a genius.
Speaker 1: Genius, Yeah, exactly. Yes, this is.
Speaker 2: Definitely better than the genius skeleton. But he also was
Speaker 2: a little didn't look real to me at all.
Speaker 1: No, but I don't think he's see That's the thing
Speaker 1: that's what got in my head, or the thing that
Speaker 1: I got was it was none of them were supposed
Speaker 1: to look real. They're supposed to look like the spooky
Speaker 1: Halloween things you see on the street in Halloween, right,
Speaker 1: and this is the town they live in when they're
Speaker 1: not doing their Halloween thing is in my head. So
Speaker 1: it's like some of the costumes were bad, some of it,
Speaker 1: but that like the pumpkinheads, but that's like supposed to
Speaker 1: look like Halloween costumes, is what I thought it was.
Speaker 1: So do you think, by the way, do you think
Speaker 1: kids would be scared by this movie back in the day.
Speaker 2: As soon as the with the score, because the score
Speaker 2: was very good as far as bringing that creepy.
Speaker 1: Yeah and an occasional jump scared.
Speaker 2: The movie starts, Monroe goes, ooh, mommy, this one's scary,
Speaker 2: and I said, it's not gonna be scared baby. First
Speaker 2: of all, right, here, it's not gonna be scared. Just
Speaker 2: let it go. So that first scene it sets the tone.
Speaker 1: Yes, said the same thing, scary. She took my hand.
Speaker 1: She's like, I'm here, baby. I'm like, i'm here, baby,
Speaker 1: It's Sue, it's gonna be scary. She was like, it's
Speaker 1: gonna okay, baby, I'm here. I know right. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I felt the same thing I felt like with an
Speaker 1: occasional jump scare that they went for, which again kind
Speaker 1: of keeps you on your toes. Yes, maybe a little
Speaker 1: more creepy than scary is how I would say. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought it worked.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Let's take a little trip now to Halloween Town. The
Speaker 1: movie opens with spooky, scary music that we're just talking about,
Speaker 1: and we find a lit jack O lantern by a
Speaker 1: flickering candle in the wind until it's blown out scary.
Speaker 1: Now from the darkness, we are thrown into a busy
Speaker 1: Halloween night, tricker treaters everywhere on a suburban block. They're
Speaker 1: going door to door but avoiding one house and mass
Speaker 1: It is the Cromwell House, a family that completely ignores
Speaker 1: the holiday, even though three young children Marnie, Dylan, and
Speaker 1: Sophie live there. Their recently widowed mother, Gwen, is overprotective
Speaker 1: and very fearful of all things spooky. All the spooky
Speaker 1: traditions just don't seem to go well with Gwen. It
Speaker 1: sounds weird, but we immediately realize there's obviously some thing
Speaker 1: bigger going on here, and don't worry there is, because
Speaker 1: we still have eighty two minutes left to figure it out. Ironically,
Speaker 1: the thirteen year old daughter Marnie is obsessed with all
Speaker 1: things weird and creepy, from lon Cheney to hieroglyphics, and
Speaker 1: she just wants to go to a big Halloween party,
Speaker 1: but she can't, and her mom simply says she has
Speaker 1: her reasons, even if she won't tell them what they are. Okay,
Speaker 1: very quickly, very very.
Speaker 2: This was my life. Well no, but it's also can
Speaker 2: I go trigger treating?
Speaker 1: If you don't want your kid to go trigger treating
Speaker 1: or do the big Halloween party. I understand that that's fine.
Speaker 2: Stay home and watch it from the window.
Speaker 1: Not just that, but why are you letting her two
Speaker 1: other friends come over to get ready for the party?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like in front of her, her two friends are like,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the best party ever. Hey, we're
Speaker 1: getting dressed up, and she's like, you can't have fun.
Speaker 1: You're not going anywhere. It was like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: At least my parents were like, let's get out of
Speaker 2: the house. We're gonna go to Disneyland.
Speaker 1: You also knew why you couldn't celebrate Halloween.
Speaker 2: That's true. There was a mystery behind yes this.
Speaker 1: They just said. She's like, you can't have fun, and
Speaker 1: that's my fault. Yeah. Her dorky twelve year old brother
Speaker 1: Dylan is a real brown noser and likes things like
Speaker 1: nature documentaries and Arbor Day, while the youngest seven year
Speaker 1: old Sophie, in very very creepy fashion, just stares out
Speaker 1: the window, dreaming one day that someone will knock on
Speaker 1: the door for candy.
Speaker 2: Why she's so creepy wish, I don't know, although I
Speaker 2: will say this is one of my favorite sidekick brothers.
Speaker 2: We have seen, sister.
Speaker 1: They were great, They were both good.
Speaker 2: Oh if they didn't have Sophie, these kids would have
Speaker 2: died warely.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, it would have never lasted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they would have been bad. What do they call
Speaker 1: it the bad way or the bad man? They would
Speaker 1: have Yeah, yeah, that would have been it.
Speaker 2: But he had young Sheldon Vibes from the Big Bank theory.
Speaker 2: I loved this kid. I loved his character, I loved
Speaker 2: every He was amazing. One of my absolute favorite kids sidekicks.
Speaker 1: I do not disagree. So we already talk about whether
Speaker 1: kids come to your house. They don't to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, do I find you creepy. I wouldn't come
Speaker 1: to your house either. I wouldn't trust you can Yeah,
Speaker 1: now they are grounded for the night, these kids, these
Speaker 1: poor kids, and separated from her friends. But defeated, Marnie
Speaker 1: is furious at her mom and frankly rightfully, so, hey,
Speaker 1: you can't go because I say so while we're having
Speaker 1: your friends over to party is kind of mean. They
Speaker 1: just want to be like normal kids, having their normal lives.
Speaker 1: She knows for a fact that, for instance, her mom
Speaker 1: and dad met on Halloween, and she just wants the
Speaker 1: day to mean something to her too. And then a
Speaker 1: magical bus appears in the sky. Somehow no one on
Speaker 1: the busy block sees it, but it hovers until Debbie
Speaker 1: Reynolds steps out. I assumed it was like the night
Speaker 1: bus in Harry Potter where muggles cannot see it. Ye,
Speaker 1: so I think Harry Potter the first book came out
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety seven, and this came out in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety eight, but who knows who wrote what first, but
Speaker 1: they seem very similar, like a younger version. But of
Speaker 1: the first Harry Potter book, it's kind of seems just
Speaker 1: the world you're not exposed to, and you're a kid,
Speaker 1: and you're hitting a birthday or a benchmark. This this
Speaker 1: time it's her thirteenth Halloween.
Speaker 2: Are there normal people in Harry Potter?
Speaker 1: Yes, Muggles. We've talked about this. The Muggles are the
Speaker 1: normal people.
Speaker 2: Muggles are normal people.
Speaker 1: That's what. That's what not in Muggles, that's what the
Speaker 1: people of the world of Harry Potter. The Muggles are
Speaker 1: the non magical folk. What they got it? Okay, you're
Speaker 1: a Muggle. I'm not a Muggles on magic, but you're
Speaker 1: a Muggle. Correct, that's good. Uh She's Then it hovers
Speaker 1: until Debbie Reynolds steps out. She's the grandmother of the family,
Speaker 1: Agatha or Aggie Cromwell. She pops open an umbrella and
Speaker 1: in a very d and d playing Mary Poppins kind
Speaker 1: of way, yes, bloats to the ground. She instructs her
Speaker 1: duffel bag to join her, but it's being defiant in essence,
Speaker 1: shaking its head like a little pet dog. But eventually,
Speaker 1: and it's so cute. I want a little cute, little
Speaker 1: little pet you know, it would be my What do
Speaker 1: they call them, not safety animals, they're the mental health animals.
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, no, I was gonna say, I can't think
Speaker 2: of the name.
Speaker 1: What am I trying? Yeah, like that kind of thing,
Speaker 1: i'd want that.
Speaker 2: I'm emotional support, Yes.
Speaker 1: There it is. I want my emotional support handbag to
Speaker 1: follow me around everywhere. That would be great. Eventually, the
Speaker 1: magical piece of luggage joins her and jumps up into
Speaker 1: her arms. In my head, it had a little purr
Speaker 1: and I would name it, yes anyway.
Speaker 2: But also cue you could just see where the string
Speaker 2: was pulling to. Oh yeah, I know, maybe I call it.
Speaker 1: Because it's like a purse. Oh I'm clever. Back in
Speaker 1: the Cromwell home, Sophia is pining away at a plate
Speaker 1: of cookies, which, of course she's not allowed to have
Speaker 1: any of those either. It's just a mother denying all
Speaker 1: these kids anything fun, even on Halloween. You didn't allow
Speaker 1: them out of the house to trick or treat. You
Speaker 1: can't let the kid have one cookie before dinner. You
Speaker 1: can't let her have one freaking cookie.
Speaker 2: Before dry because it's all nerve wracking that this is gonna.
Speaker 1: I get it, But y then what then? How do
Speaker 1: you not distract your kids from from the fact that
Speaker 1: it's Halloween, like your parents did, Take them to Disney World,
Speaker 1: take them to a baseball game, do something to where
Speaker 1: I want you to sit in front of this window
Speaker 1: and think about how you can't do anything fun and
Speaker 1: you can't have a cookie. It was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: So Sophie, it's pining away at the plate of cookie.
Speaker 1: She keeps pouting that she's not allowed to have one.
Speaker 1: She's just chanting, I really want that cookie, until magically,
Speaker 1: behind her back, the cookie starts to float towards her.
Speaker 1: Mother whispers oh not again, and catches it and stuffs
Speaker 1: it into her own mouth. It turns out that this
Speaker 1: little girl has magic powers already.
Speaker 2: And every mom can relate to this, because anytime you
Speaker 2: want to have one, but you know they've already had
Speaker 2: too many so they can't have anymore. But you want
Speaker 2: to have fun, it's tough. And then try to talk
Speaker 2: about it like without them knowing that.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so glad that's what you meant, because when
Speaker 1: you said what all moms know about this? I thought
Speaker 1: you meant all moms know about their kids having magic
Speaker 1: powers and trying to suppress them.
Speaker 2: It's that like you try to eat something that the
Speaker 2: kids can't have, but then they ask you a question
Speaker 2: in your mouth is full of the thing that.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the that's the yeah. That's the famous Seinfeld
Speaker 1: bit where he says the best part of being an
Speaker 1: adult is eating a cookie whenever I want a cookie
Speaker 1: and he goes. Sometimes I'll call my mom and say,
Speaker 1: I just ruined my entire appetite, which is which is true.
Speaker 1: But hey, there is a one surprise that at least
Speaker 1: the kids are gonna love on Halloween, and that Grandma
Speaker 1: Aggie appears in their house. It's been a year since
Speaker 1: she's visited, and the kids are thrilled, but Gwen, of course,
Speaker 1: does not look enthused. Aggie brought presence in that logic
Speaker 1: define suitcase, which I'm now calling Percival and is filled
Speaker 1: with candy, a pentagram necklace, a jar of eyeballs, a skeleton,
Speaker 1: and even a necklace of garlic to ward away vampires.
Speaker 1: So again, this is it's not just Mary Poppins, though
Speaker 1: it's also in D and D. They're called forever bags.
Speaker 1: So there's Harry Potter, Hermione has one. It's just the
Speaker 1: bags that can hold everything. These are. It's a very
Speaker 1: famous magical trope of j I've got a bag. I've
Speaker 1: got a bottomless, endless bag. But yeah, I also had
Speaker 1: a question. She's bringing garlic to ward away vampires, but
Speaker 1: vampires are friends in town. So why do you need
Speaker 1: to ward anything away?
Speaker 2: There's a cup that was one of my Sabrina Sea
Speaker 2: is going, wait, yeah, I thought this was part of
Speaker 2: their world. Why are we making be right afraid of friends? Yeah,
Speaker 2: they hang out, they go to the dentist.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, the magical system needed some work. It was
Speaker 1: very all over the place. Yeah, she could snap her
Speaker 1: fingers and turn a dead chicken into a live chicken,
Speaker 1: but she couldn't unfreeze somebody who was still alive. Like,
Speaker 1: none of this is This is where the D and
Speaker 1: D side of me goes. Wait, but if I roll
Speaker 1: in eighteen, it'll be fine. Uh, it's it is what
Speaker 1: it is. Grandma reminds Gwen that this is Marnie's thirteenth Halloween,
Speaker 1: her thirteenth year. She's going to turn into a mermaid.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, thirteenth Alloween. That's the lucky number. And Marnie
Speaker 1: is excited that somebody finally appreciates her weirdness. Marnie reveals
Speaker 1: she even gets deja vu a lot. Grandma seems interested,
Speaker 1: and Aggie pulls out costumes for the kids. Marnie is
Speaker 1: a wicked Sophie is a ghost, and Dylan is a Viking. Warlock,
Speaker 1: though he thinks he looks like a pimple. But Gwen
Speaker 1: is not impressed, and it is now time for bed.
Speaker 1: You can tell she is just not digging Granny being there.
Speaker 1: The kids beg for a nighttime story from their grandmother,
Speaker 1: which Gwen eventually allows, so while the kids are getting
Speaker 1: ready for bed, Aggie admits she wants the family to
Speaker 1: move back home, especially with their dad now deceased, but
Speaker 1: Gwen loves living a normal life. Grandma only brings chaos
Speaker 1: and candy sounds pretty awesome. There's no need to fight.
Speaker 1: Gwen and the kids are here to stay, and Aggie
Speaker 1: is not allowed to talk about her home during the
Speaker 1: bedtime story. She promises she won't, but in what Pod
Speaker 1: meets World listeners know as an optical flip, we cut
Speaker 1: directly to Grandma waxing poetic to the kids about Halloween Town.
Speaker 1: She has framed it as a fantasy with goblins, gnomes, banshees,
Speaker 1: ghosts and witches. But it's obvious this magical place where
Speaker 1: many different sorts of people exist, is real. Dylan thinks
Speaker 1: it sounds a lot by Cleveland. The residents aren't mean,
Speaker 1: they're all just normal people. Even the ugliest and slimiest
Speaker 1: of monsters are very kind hearted. And when Dylan, who's
Speaker 1: a total hater, says this place can't be real, Grandma
Speaker 1: pulls out a Halloween town book filled with illustrations of
Speaker 1: the town and a last page that shows a drawing
Speaker 1: of Marnie flying a broom. Is this a coincidence or what?
Speaker 1: I think we addressed this before? You liked scary stuff
Speaker 1: as a kid, right, yes? Did you have a favorite
Speaker 1: like scary horror goose bumpy thing that you used to
Speaker 1: like watching when you were young?
Speaker 2: I watched I think the scariest that I went. I
Speaker 2: like when I say I liked scary movie. That wasn't
Speaker 2: until I was older, not so as a kid. I
Speaker 2: think as far as I went was are you Afraid
Speaker 2: of the Dark?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Okay, I was on that?
Speaker 2: Yes, I remember you selling me that and.
Speaker 1: Then which was a great show, by the way.
Speaker 2: Yes, And so I think that was Goosebumps ever a
Speaker 2: show or was that just a book series?
Speaker 1: No? I want to say it was a show as well.
Speaker 2: It was. Yeah, yeah, it was a show.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Was it a book series though?
Speaker 1: Too? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Arl Stein okay, yes, arl Stein, okay, Yes, So that
Speaker 2: was like a favor of my book series, like what I.
Speaker 1: Liked to there's now a new there's now one on
Speaker 1: Disney Plus as well, But don't don't leave us yet
Speaker 1: for that, keep nice nice.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so that was kind of as as far
Speaker 2: as I think I went. I don't remember having any
Speaker 2: staple Disney movie. What about you?
Speaker 1: No, I did not like scary movies, then I do
Speaker 1: not like scary movies now anything that messes with My
Speaker 1: problem is I'm a very visual learner, so I essentially
Speaker 1: it's not quite a photographic memory, but very very close.
Speaker 1: So if I see something and then try to sleep afterwards,
Speaker 1: I just keeping rewatching it in my head and I
Speaker 1: just so scary movies don't work for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I cannot.
Speaker 1: It's like caffeine. My body just can't take it.
Speaker 6: Yes.
Speaker 1: So anyway, their mom, who is at this point just
Speaker 1: a genuine buzzkill, walks in as she's telling a story.
Speaker 1: It's time for Grandma to leave. This ain't working out. This,
Speaker 1: of course, breaks Marnie's heart. She is the one person
Speaker 1: who truly gets her, and now she is leaving. But
Speaker 1: at least she has the Halloween Town book to look
Speaker 1: at downstairs. Aggie and Gwen are really getting into it.
Speaker 1: Gwen specifically told her not to talk about Halloween Town,
Speaker 1: and Aggie is scared that Gwen is breaking the tradition
Speaker 1: of the Cromwell Witches. Gwen does not want Marnie to
Speaker 1: become a witch. She wants her to be more like
Speaker 1: her human father, but Aggie warns if Marnie doesn't at
Speaker 1: least start the process tonight before she turns thirteen, she
Speaker 1: will lose her powers altogether. They don't get into what
Speaker 1: that means by what's starting the process, because by the
Speaker 1: next day she's in a Halloween town. She hasn't studied anything,
Speaker 1: but now she has her power. So I guess the
Speaker 1: process maybe just means accepting the fact that she's a
Speaker 1: witch and can be trained, maybe taking a bus ride
Speaker 1: on a magical bus ride. They don't. They never really
Speaker 1: get into what the training is because there is none.
Speaker 2: So we know that Sophie the little Sister, has powers
Speaker 2: that are just coming to her naturally. Why is that?
Speaker 1: No, it did happen to Marnie because remember, even Marnie
Speaker 1: says to her, didn't that happen to me when I
Speaker 1: was younger?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: She does? She says, did it happen to me when
Speaker 1: and and Gwen says, yes, that you were the same
Speaker 1: stuff was happening to you when you were got it?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's hitting the boy last because
Speaker 1: he's the He doesn't want to believe, so even being
Speaker 1: in Halloween Town like this is just a dream.
Speaker 2: That he would be different too because he's a warlock.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he also gets angry. It seems to be like
Speaker 1: also in Harry Potter, when things start to when when
Speaker 1: it's something emotions emotionally involved in some way, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Just then Marnie creeps down the stairs and hears all
Speaker 1: of this, because of course, if you don't want your
Speaker 1: kid to know anything, have kind of a loud argument
Speaker 1: about it in the kitchen right after they've gone to bed.
Speaker 1: This is when she catches her grandmother turning chicken leftovers
Speaker 1: into live chicken, which is a snap of her fingers,
Speaker 1: again showing that there is no real magical system and
Speaker 1: we don't know the extent of anybody's powers. Again, this
Speaker 1: is me just being a total nerd D and D fan,
Speaker 1: But stuff like, as you're a fantasy nerd, stuff like
Speaker 1: the magical system real important but helping Marnie isn't the
Speaker 1: only reason she's visiting. She also needs Gwen's help. Her
Speaker 1: Halloween town neighbors are in trouble. They're turning angry out
Speaker 1: of nowhere then disappearing, and she needs another Cromwell witch
Speaker 1: to help figure this out. But Gwen can't just leave
Speaker 1: her kids for a threat that doesn't even sound real.
Speaker 1: Aggie is offended and she leaves like.
Speaker 2: She was just supposed to leave the kids of the house.
Speaker 2: There was no work. Yeah, why can't they?
Speaker 1: She can't? It's also are you I understand that they've
Speaker 1: set it up that the Cromwells have a lot of power,
Speaker 1: But she said there's other witches, even says, why I'm
Speaker 1: asking another witch get five or six witches together? It
Speaker 1: seemed like you just needed to chant one thing like hands,
Speaker 1: and why did you not? We'll get into it. This
Speaker 1: is this is where my nerd nitpicking comes in. Has
Speaker 1: nothing to filmmaking or enjoyability. It just has me going
Speaker 1: like waity, thinking that's where that's when.
Speaker 2: Are they going to explain? I need more details about
Speaker 2: the power. I was the same way. Well, I actually
Speaker 2: like shut my brain off to finally and I finally
Speaker 2: was able to do it. What we're getting to right now?
Speaker 1: Okay, I again, I can shut off some of my brain.
Speaker 1: I just just just build out the and I'm hoping
Speaker 1: in that the subsequent movies maybe they build out the
Speaker 1: magical system. Yeah a little bit. Again. Gwen doesn't want
Speaker 1: to leave her kids. The threat doesn't even sound real.
Speaker 1: Aggie's offended and leaves, warning that Halloween Town could disappear forever,
Speaker 1: and on her way out, just to give her one
Speaker 1: little uh huh, she turns the fried chicken back into
Speaker 1: regular chickens. Marnie runs off to tell her brother, who
Speaker 1: thinks she's crazy, but then they catch their grandmother leaving
Speaker 1: with the moving suitcase for the bus, and Dylan assure
Speaker 1: it's probably just a remote control toy Marnie, which I'm
Speaker 1: sure when they shot it is exactly what it was.
Speaker 1: Marnie runs off to catch her. She doesn't want to
Speaker 1: miss her chance of becoming a witch. A skeptical Dylan
Speaker 1: tags along, just in time to sneak to the back
Speaker 1: of the bus without anybody noticing. This all so showed
Speaker 1: me something strange, magical, where you could have conversations five
Speaker 1: feet from a witch and they're not going to know
Speaker 1: you're there. You could sneak onto a magical bus. Nobody's
Speaker 1: going to know they're there if you open the back
Speaker 1: door of a regular school bus and alarm goes.
Speaker 2: Off, right, That's what I said. One of my first
Speaker 2: thing goes It was just first of all, unlocked, right,
Speaker 2: because somebody had to open the side door. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean the bus driver opens as as they.
Speaker 1: See any of the apparently they sneak unlocked.
Speaker 2: There's no alarm. I'm not going there's no alarm. They're
Speaker 2: right there. They don't look like anyone else. They don't
Speaker 2: look like witches. I mean no, even grandma has a
Speaker 2: somewhat looking witch out.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, if she's not a witch's at least a
Speaker 1: Stevie Nicks fan. Like we're closed, so yeah, you gotta.
Speaker 1: I mean, but that was yeah, there was There.
Speaker 2: Was no no hiding. It was just all out there.
Speaker 1: No. But anyway, once they're on the bus, it takes
Speaker 1: flight into the air and the kids notice they're surrounded
Speaker 1: by Frankenstein lizard monsters and witches. What the frankensigned lizard
Speaker 1: monsters in which is don't notice is the two kids
Speaker 1: sitting there in a seat in the confusion. They eventually
Speaker 1: land in Halloween Town, smack dab in the middle of
Speaker 1: their large downtown area. It looks like any old timey city,
Speaker 1: very Gilmore Girls even, but there are tons of costume
Speaker 1: characters going about their business. Another impressive part of the movie.
Speaker 1: They didn't have a ton of money for the background actors,
Speaker 1: so they used actors over and over again, just having
Speaker 1: them change costumes to be new characters. And I instantly
Speaker 1: just the masks. Yeah, you get you go, you go
Speaker 1: around a circle, throw on a new mask. But I
Speaker 1: instantly added to my list of bucket list actor things,
Speaker 1: background background actor in some Star Wars movie, background actor
Speaker 1: in a Halloween town. I want to be one of those,
Speaker 1: one of those characters walking around putting that on the list,
Speaker 1: throwing it into the ether now to see if that
Speaker 1: one comes back to me. Did you have a favorite monster?
Speaker 2: I will get to one, uh in my Sabrina seas
Speaker 2: because we're right there and you're not bringing this one up,
Speaker 2: so I mean you didn't.
Speaker 1: It's either the cop which is interesting, but I really
Speaker 1: liked this again, the skeleton driver was one of my favorites.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and actually there's two of them coming up
Speaker 2: because one I thought was super clever, and I thought
Speaker 2: it was so adorable. I loved it.
Speaker 1: We are off the bus now. Aggie runs into her
Speaker 1: friend Harriet, who seems quite lovely, except that she'd baked
Speaker 1: muffins for people at the headless shelter. Silly Harriet, they
Speaker 1: can't eat, they don't have mouths. Eventually, Marnie and Dylan
Speaker 1: eggs the vehicle. They're in awe of all the sites.
Speaker 1: Dylan thinks he's dreaming, but then they see their little sister, Sophie.
Speaker 1: She also snuck onto the bus because she senses something
Speaker 1: bad too. Maybe it's just this is a sneakable bus
Speaker 1: because they didn't notice her coming on either. Just then,
Speaker 1: the mayor, a warlock named Calibar, approaches them and also
Speaker 1: pulls a lollipop out of his ear. They introdces themselves
Speaker 1: as Aggie's grandkids, and he knows their mom, Gwen. He
Speaker 1: even his eyes light up. He seems to be a
Speaker 1: little bit smitten with her. The mayor calls over Benny,
Speaker 1: a reckless and dad joke filled skeleton cab driver, to
Speaker 1: drive them to their grandma's. This is a very cool,
Speaker 1: practical robot in the movie. I loved it, it's my favorite.
Speaker 1: On the drive, Benny warns them that this neighborhood isn't
Speaker 1: always safe, pointing to the one local thug who doesn't
Speaker 1: look like he'd be that tough to take, who thinks
Speaker 1: he's hot stuff because he's got a nose job and
Speaker 1: had a wart recently removed. But upon arrival to Grandma's,
Speaker 1: she's surprised to see them, but not as surprise that
Speaker 1: she should be, considering she doesn't know Marnie heard she's
Speaker 1: a witch from upstairs. Anyway, since Aggie can't call their
Speaker 1: mom because they can fly and do everything else, but
Speaker 1: they haven't figured out long distance in Halloween Town, which
Speaker 1: I thought was actually kind of a fun little twist.
Speaker 1: She figures she can take care of them for a
Speaker 1: few hours and even get some training in for Marnie,
Speaker 1: kind of explaining that time works differently there. Two hours
Speaker 1: in our world could be two weeks in Halloween Town.
Speaker 2: Very catch going, wait what, wait, hold on, how how
Speaker 2: that's only a couple hours away? What how do you know?
Speaker 1: And yeah, and then they explain it and then, which
Speaker 1: I liked, It's like, okay, explain the magical system a
Speaker 1: little bit. We need that, we need that, but anyway,
Speaker 1: above all else though, Aggie still needs to get to
Speaker 1: the bottom of the evil in the town because she
Speaker 1: knows it's only going to get worse and they need
Speaker 1: to use bump them all. They pull it out Merlin's
Speaker 1: talisman to stop this. Did you know what a talisman
Speaker 1: was beforehand? No? No, we're gonna play you some D
Speaker 1: and D. You're gonna start knowing what a talisman is.
Speaker 1: We'll get you there. I see you as maybe a drow.
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll figure it out. I don't that's a.
Speaker 2: Blue I'm probably supposed to be offended by that.
Speaker 1: No, not at all. They're really cool. I played one
Speaker 1: for years yet No, really cool.
Speaker 2: You could also is the D and D when you
Speaker 2: keep saying that, is that dungeons and dragons?
Speaker 1: Okay, quit, I'm done now with this podcast. I would
Speaker 1: like to thank everybody for sticking with us as well.
Speaker 1: And how are you supposed to know? Yes, it's Dungeons
Speaker 1: and Dragons?
Speaker 2: Okay, well, then why are you mad at me when
Speaker 2: I actually guessed?
Speaker 1: Because it was again, it should be a no. It
Speaker 1: shouldn't be a guess it's D and D because Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: you know what, you know what we're gonna But here's
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. One night, we're gonna play Dungeon
Speaker 1: and Dragons, and then you're gonna teach me to dance.
Speaker 1: So we're both in misery.
Speaker 2: Yes, will, because while you were doing that, I was
Speaker 2: that dance class.
Speaker 3: When I was sure I was.
Speaker 2: I wasn't playing games.
Speaker 1: Yeah you're friends. You had friends, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Friends.
Speaker 1: I was training, I was trading exactly. I was too just,
Speaker 1: and all these things said.
Speaker 2: If I wasn't doing that, I might know some of
Speaker 2: this style.
Speaker 1: I who wanted to go to parties and have girls
Speaker 1: attracted to me. I would much rather read books about
Speaker 1: elves that didn't affect me at all in my life.
Speaker 2: I'm trying my.
Speaker 1: You are, and you're doing I love it. So Haggie
Speaker 1: tries to awaken the talisman, but it doesn't work, and
Speaker 1: one of the reasons is she used instant, which is
Speaker 1: brew and she knows she which is very clever, but
Speaker 1: she knows that she needs to make it from scratch,
Speaker 1: so Marnie offers her help. Aggie needs a vampire fang,
Speaker 1: the hair of a werewolf, and the sweat of a ghost,
Speaker 1: all things they can get in town. Great way to
Speaker 1: set up a story, because now the scavenger hunt begins. Yes,
Speaker 1: all this while back at the Cromwell home, Gwen finally
Speaker 1: realizes that the kids are gone. Now look, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that's gotta be rough. I've running something. I feel
Speaker 1: bad enough when I don't know where my dog is
Speaker 1: curled up. Now in town, Aggie is parading the kids
Speaker 1: around with pigface men and goblin bowlers walking by. She
Speaker 1: explains monsters tried to live with humans once, but it
Speaker 1: didn't work out. It was essentially the dark ages. They
Speaker 1: couldn't get along and the anger turned monsters evil, which
Speaker 1: they actually aren't. So that's why they have their own town.
Speaker 1: Very cool. Then this is one of the jump scares
Speaker 1: we're talking about. They bump into Harriet Boom, the pell
Speaker 1: that Aggie saw right when she gets off the bus.
Speaker 1: But now her face is kind of mangled up and
Speaker 1: she's growling like a beast. It looks like the quote
Speaker 1: unquote bad thing has gotten to her. And that was
Speaker 1: pretty scary. That was I thought the scariest moment for
Speaker 1: kids because it like it was the jumping out at
Speaker 1: the head coming out in Jaws kind of thing.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, whoa.
Speaker 1: Then Aggie sees made Kalibar and runs to him. He
Speaker 1: has to do something. Harriet is a wild animal now
Speaker 1: and just hours ago she was fine. Now she's going
Speaker 1: to disappear soon too. This is exactly what Aggie's been
Speaker 1: telling him about. He says, he's very concerned and she's
Speaker 1: uncovered something serious, but she has to leave it alone
Speaker 1: for now. She just he asked, just give me two
Speaker 1: days to look into it. But man, he seems shady, shaters.
Speaker 1: He's definitely hired. He's hiring something. Hey, it's just he's
Speaker 1: hiding something. I'm telling you. He's just like, again, bring
Speaker 1: it back.
Speaker 2: Give it he's giving me.
Speaker 1: Willy Wonka meets Ted Bundy. Yes, because it's Willy Wonka.
Speaker 2: Bro. Yes, it's like so weird looking just so.
Speaker 1: He brings me right back. And you know, now that
Speaker 1: I even think about it, even the actors even look
Speaker 1: the same. He brings me right back to Michael on
Speaker 1: Melrose's place. Didn't didn't trust him then, don't trust him now?
Speaker 2: It's the Brows.
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, it got me yelling at my screen.
Speaker 1: Aggie consents that he's hiding something too. Meanwhile, Marnie is
Speaker 1: found the Broom shop, which is run by some sort
Speaker 1: of Elva Skelton. Hey, how's ever doing, baby? She's she's
Speaker 1: perusing the brooms. They're all very colorable rooms that looks
Speaker 1: like you get either CVS or Walmart. A lot of
Speaker 1: things we were talking about Producer Jensen hopped on that
Speaker 1: look great in this movie. The brooms are not one
Speaker 1: of them. They really look bad. It is just bad bad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: make cool looking brooms again.
Speaker 2: In this whole world, and we're seeing so many incredible costumes,
Speaker 2: these brooms.
Speaker 1: Just make one if you want to do it that way,
Speaker 1: make one hero broom, like one prop broom that just
Speaker 1: looks amazing, and that's the one she wants. How can
Speaker 1: I not do that? But while they're shopping, they're bullied
Speaker 1: by that kid Luke that the taxi driver warned them about,
Speaker 1: the one with the nose job. He says he's the
Speaker 1: big cheese around town now, and Marnie says, oh, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm smelling, the big cheese now with that singer.
Speaker 1: He threatens them he's friends with some very powerful creatures
Speaker 1: and they need to be careful. But let's find out
Speaker 1: what the Elvist skeleton has to say about Luke. He's
Speaker 1: turned into such a win Hi.
Speaker 2: If we did it seventeen more times, that would have
Speaker 2: been what my actual I'm like, he's not, I keep going,
Speaker 2: He's not. I go, babe, get in here? Is he saying? Wiener?
Speaker 2: And George's like, yes, he obviously is saying.
Speaker 1: How's Elvis such a wiener?
Speaker 2: I think, why did that ever make sense for that?
Speaker 2: Because it's said later on too.
Speaker 1: It was great he's turned in a such a wiener. Anyway,
Speaker 1: they end up buying the really terrible broom and Grandma
Speaker 1: Aggie decides to take it for a spin with Marnie.
Speaker 1: They fly all over Halloween Town, eventually landing back at
Speaker 1: the shop just as their mom, Oh Gwen arrives and
Speaker 1: she is not happy. She wants them home immediately, but
Speaker 1: Marnie says that she's there to learn and help her grandmother.
Speaker 1: She is staying and I thought, good for you. Stand
Speaker 1: up for yourself.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He stirs up another huge fight between Gwen and her mom,
Speaker 1: ending with Gwen taking the kids home. So she didn't win,
Speaker 1: but she stood up. Now, this was my question other
Speaker 1: than hey, I'm now in Halloween town and I know
Speaker 1: that I can be a witch. Does this officially count
Speaker 1: as her training starting? Because nobody's trained her in anything?
Speaker 1: They haven't told her anything. N She literally hasn't been
Speaker 1: given a single lesson in whatever.
Speaker 2: She's watched one spell happen with the which didn't work,
Speaker 2: with the pot which didn't happen. Yeah, it didn't work.
Speaker 2: So this is I don't understand how she's again in training, right,
Speaker 2: And I guess I didn't realize the difference between the
Speaker 2: powers are stronger when they're little, like you were saying
Speaker 2: with Sophia, because I was going, but she's got this
Speaker 2: little sister that these things are happening very easily too.
Speaker 2: She's opening the gate on her own.
Speaker 1: She's yeah, she's going to be a powerful witch.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm going, how come this hasn't happened to her
Speaker 2: at all?
Speaker 1: And they did set it up that it did, and
Speaker 1: it's kind of been beaten out of her a little bit,
Speaker 1: probably not physically, but maybe physically of her life as
Speaker 1: she's growing up. But yeah, so it just get nurtured.
Speaker 1: So yeah, exactly, it's suppressed yet so I guess we're
Speaker 1: supposed to assume that when you accept that you're a
Speaker 1: witch and then you're in Halloween Town, that's your training start.
Speaker 1: So the clock has at least started, so she has
Speaker 1: retained her powers, as I think we're supposed to supposed
Speaker 1: to figure up. When they go to catch the bus
Speaker 1: because they're leaving now, they're greeted by a two headed
Speaker 1: clerk fighting with himself about espresso. But much more importantly,
Speaker 1: the bus is down and won't be flying. Uh oh.
Speaker 1: Gwen won't take no for an answer. She's taking her
Speaker 1: complaint to the mayor, who she quickly finds out is
Speaker 1: her old suitor, that weirdo named Kalibar who likes to
Speaker 1: pull things out of different holes in his body. He's
Speaker 1: also so happy to see her and still trying to wooer. Also,
Speaker 1: he has an assistant. He's a human pincushion. Not important
Speaker 1: at all the story. I just wanted to.
Speaker 2: Tell you that, I know that was one of the
Speaker 2: more not making sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they just want to strain. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just weird.
Speaker 2: She was that one literally looked like when I put
Speaker 2: together I was a twister a twister board.
Speaker 1: Okay, Halloween.
Speaker 2: That was like that kind of Halloween costume, right, like
Speaker 2: you're a kitchen or you're you know, a cloudy sky
Speaker 2: with a chance of rain. You have like a square gun.
Speaker 2: That was like, you know, a great Yeah they're great,
Speaker 2: but that they're not monsters.
Speaker 1: So my Halloween costume is exactly the same every single year.
Speaker 1: I dressed like the guy who doesn't touch you at
Speaker 1: his house.
Speaker 3: Oh, you'd be an Inja turtle.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not even gonna get into which an injur
Speaker 1: turtle you would be. I'm not sure you can answer that.
Speaker 1: The mayor offers the Cromwell clan a tour all in
Speaker 1: hopes of eventually making out with Gwen, which seems like
Speaker 1: he wants to use some of his magic Ongwyn, if
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, But he ends up having
Speaker 1: an emergency has to deal with first. On the other
Speaker 1: side of town, Bully Luke is bothering Grandma Aggie. He
Speaker 1: points out that she's alone now and no one believes
Speaker 1: her and is a powerful man who wants Merlin's talisman. Apparently,
Speaker 1: Luke knows who's behind all these disappearances and he wants
Speaker 1: to reveal himself to Aggie. This is a good opportunity
Speaker 1: for them Marnie sees all this goes down and runs
Speaker 1: from the mayor's office to help Luke. Can't be good
Speaker 1: news for her grandma. She's got to figure out what's
Speaker 1: going on as she leaves, her family then joins her
Speaker 1: but grudgingly. Luke takes Aggie to an abandoned movie theater,
Speaker 1: which is one of the best sets we've seen in
Speaker 1: any d com so far. It is filled with frozen skeletons, Goofy, Harriet,
Speaker 1: and cobwebs. They're all watching a big screen showing a big,
Speaker 1: violent storm that's actually three ding into the audience. Eventually,
Speaker 1: a goblin and the cloak pops out on the screen
Speaker 1: and we meet the true villain, real Voldemort. Vibes here
Speaker 1: the black flowing robe. I mean like super creepy for
Speaker 1: a kid.
Speaker 2: I would imagine it starts off Wizard of Oz to me.
Speaker 2: And then when that guy came out, I was like, Oh, okay,
Speaker 2: we actually have a real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a real bad guy, A real bad Guyuy, absolutely,
Speaker 1: because I was like, oh okay, I can see how
Speaker 1: kids might find this freaky. Yeah. Find out that he
Speaker 1: is building an army with these souls and he wants
Speaker 1: Merlin's talisman to them in motion. He claims that there's
Speaker 1: nothing that can stop him, and he starts shooting fireballs
Speaker 1: with his hands. Aggie nearly dodges them all as Luke
Speaker 1: shows some surprising concern. It appears the Goblin told him
Speaker 1: that Aggie would not be hurt at all. He can't
Speaker 1: stand to watch us anymore, and he bounces, and that's
Speaker 1: when all the Cromwells arrive in the theater. Gwen knows
Speaker 1: her mom's in trouble, so she tries to cast her
Speaker 1: first spell in a long time, but she's clearly very rusty.
Speaker 1: She turns Luke into flowers, but she meant powers. The
Speaker 1: Goblin shoots another fireball, and this time Gwen pushes her
Speaker 1: mother out of the way at the last second, but
Speaker 1: it hits her and boom, she gets nabbed. She's frozen
Speaker 1: in time. She's now laying in a theater seat, and
Speaker 1: as a good one two punch, the goblin man fireballs
Speaker 1: Aggie two, now freezing both grandmother and daughter right in
Speaker 1: front of the kids. Marnie, Sophie, and Dylan decide to
Speaker 1: leave at the same time, revealing that sunlight seems to
Speaker 1: stun the bad guy very important, but not really at
Speaker 1: all because that doesn't come back in any way, shape
Speaker 1: or for him ever again. And then the next time
Speaker 1: we see him as in broad daylight. So that makes
Speaker 1: no sense. But it's a great scene for a D com.
Speaker 1: It is. It's the cool the theater.
Speaker 2: It was very the theater. Good bad guy.
Speaker 1: Reveal it was. It was good. But yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: sunlight that none of them.
Speaker 2: To make up. The way they freeze was I thought
Speaker 2: pretty impressive. Great, right, you know when they when you
Speaker 2: get hit by the fireball, and then the way they
Speaker 2: go from being you know fully normal to then their
Speaker 2: freeze moment of being you know the statue, that was
Speaker 2: pretty good.
Speaker 1: I thought so too. I thought it looked great poor.
Speaker 2: W Reynolds, who has her finger up and we're going,
Speaker 2: oh man, all those takes. You wish you would have
Speaker 2: maybe thought a different post.
Speaker 1: I thought she was my head.
Speaker 5: Onthing like that, leaning on the chair, just like that,
Speaker 5: just eating popcorn.
Speaker 2: I would have chose a different boat.
Speaker 1: I thought they did that on purpose. I thought she
Speaker 1: was freezing pointing to where she later she was supposed
Speaker 1: to put the talisman. Oh, it turned out to not
Speaker 1: be the case. But I thought that's what it was.
Speaker 1: It was so she was really pointing go go. I
Speaker 1: thought that was the reason was to point to that.
Speaker 1: But anyway, No, Marny needs to get this witch's brew
Speaker 1: and she knows. So they know what they have to
Speaker 1: do because their grandmother told them what they had to do.
Speaker 1: So Marnie needs to get the witches brew made to
Speaker 1: save her mom and grandma. The kid needs. The kids
Speaker 1: need to get the ingredients to empower the talisman. First,
Speaker 1: they stop by a beauty parlor owned by a werewolf.
Speaker 1: Marnie pretends to be looking for a job, picks up
Speaker 1: a hair dryer or proof she knows what she's doing.
Speaker 1: She turns it on to find out it's actually a
Speaker 1: pretty awesome flamethrower. Small fact. They did this effect with
Speaker 1: real fire, by the way, so Kimberly was just playing
Speaker 1: with fire for hours as they filmed it. Totally cool.
Speaker 1: Now that everyone's distracted, Dylan quickly shaves the back of
Speaker 1: the werewolf's head and runs out. One ingredient down. Next stop,
Speaker 1: we go to the Halloween Town gym. Dog Faces are
Speaker 1: playing basketball and teaching aerobics. It's quite a scene. They
Speaker 1: eventually make it to the sauna and sneak some sweat
Speaker 1: of a ghost. When Dylan recites weird facts as Sophie
Speaker 1: imitates a ghost running around in the ghost can you please,
Speaker 1: can you stop that? I don't go in for stereotypes.
Speaker 1: Can you please cut that out?
Speaker 2: Stereotype? I loved it.
Speaker 1: It was yes, because you the days like you know,
Speaker 1: you're just making fun of me, making fun of anybody
Speaker 1: you can see through.
Speaker 2: Can you please? Can't do anything about it because I'm
Speaker 2: stuck and the.
Speaker 1: Kids through it so but they've they've ended up locking
Speaker 1: in their second ingredient. It's also worth noting that the
Speaker 1: ghost loses hundreds of pounds in the sweat room very instantly,
Speaker 1: and for the last ingredient, they go to the local
Speaker 1: dentist office. The dentist, who has a really creepy face
Speaker 1: mask and a huge nose, is removing the fangs from
Speaker 1: a vampire, which is perfect to steal and for the
Speaker 1: finalizing the witches brew recipe once and for all. I
Speaker 1: love also how they talk about how he's in fact
Speaker 1: the tooth fairy.
Speaker 3: That was my monster that I love.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, that tooth fairy one was so good
Speaker 2: to me. It was I love so the.
Speaker 1: Way they shot him, it was kind of like at
Speaker 1: a lower angle and the cameras moving in on him.
Speaker 1: It was really really cool. Yeah, they now have everything
Speaker 1: they need and they have to return to their Grandma's house,
Speaker 1: and what luck. Benny the skeleton taxi driver appears again.
Speaker 1: He's willing to drive them to Aggie's house for free,
Speaker 1: but Sophie, who has saved everybody's life, she is the
Speaker 1: harmony of this one, isn't buying it. She reveals he's
Speaker 1: got the bad thing in him, and she was right
Speaker 1: because Bennie tries to violently pull Dylan into his cab,
Speaker 1: but Sophie brilliantly reacts by releasing a nearby dog office
Speaker 1: leash and sending him to fetch the bones. Bennie takes off,
Speaker 1: keeping them safe for now. Back at Grandma's, the kids
Speaker 1: have finished the witch's Brew, but Marnie can't remember the spell.
Speaker 1: Who could It was in another language you heard once
Speaker 1: a while ago, and lots of stuff has happened since
Speaker 1: no one could remember that. Oh wait, Sophie, Sophie's she.
Speaker 2: Is literally, I'm telling you she is. If she wasn't there, God,
Speaker 2: they would have been done on the bus ride, they
Speaker 2: would have died.
Speaker 1: She's amazing. She of course memorized the spell by believing
Speaker 1: in themselves and reciting it together. They end up lighting
Speaker 1: the talisman. Then they return to the theater talisman all alight,
Speaker 1: and their mom and grandma are still frozen. Marnie remembers
Speaker 1: her grandma saying that they have to quote unquote installed
Speaker 1: the talisman, but she never really knew where, but she's smart,
Speaker 1: so she puts it together. Since most Halloween traditions for
Speaker 1: humans were stolen from the monster's original customs, Marnie realized
Speaker 1: she might have to light up the town's huge pumpkin
Speaker 1: display with the talisman. It seems kind of convoluted in
Speaker 1: a lot of steps, and to be honest, you kind
Speaker 1: of forget there's even a pumpkin there, Like they talk
Speaker 1: about it, but then and then like it doesn't look right.
Speaker 1: They said that at the beginning, like it doesn't look right,
Speaker 1: so they're kind of trying to put the old nugget
Speaker 1: in your cranium. But it was a little convoluted at
Speaker 1: that point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But the second time I watched it was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I get why they have the jack O lanard in
Speaker 2: the beginning.
Speaker 1: Like, yes, they set it all up.
Speaker 2: They do set it up, but it just kind of.
Speaker 5: I agree, sometimes it gets lost. It's just so much
Speaker 5: going on. They seem like they skipped a lot of steps.
Speaker 5: They also, here's the thing, here's the problem I had.
Speaker 5: If Grandma is such a powerful witch, why not just
Speaker 5: and and these three kids who've been in Halloween Town
Speaker 5: for a cumulative total of three hours.
Speaker 1: Have been able to get all the ingredients make the thing?
Speaker 1: And like the thing. She couldn't do this by herself.
Speaker 2: Why couldn't she have to? I know she couldn't.
Speaker 1: Brew this thing once by herself and try to see
Speaker 1: if the work.
Speaker 2: To have a vampire friend that said, hey, take it
Speaker 2: any chance you've lost one? Yeah, wiggly.
Speaker 1: These three kids that have normally live in Maine or
Speaker 1: wherever the hell they are are now in a mythical
Speaker 1: land and killing.
Speaker 2: It kills So it's like like they've been superheroes.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, exactly. So I just you could have tried it,
Speaker 1: is all I'm saying. Granny, y'are awesome. God, Debbie Reynolds,
Speaker 1: I love you. Give it a shot. May make your stuff,
Speaker 1: make your stuff? Uh? Anyway, Marnie walks to the giant pumpkin,
Speaker 1: when out of nowhere, Luke grabs her and tells her
Speaker 1: it's a trap. That also made no sense because she
Speaker 1: was able to just put it in there, so if
Speaker 1: it wasn't a trap, she could have just walked up
Speaker 1: and put it in. But he wants to apologize for
Speaker 1: earlier he didn't know the Goblin was going to hurt Aggie,
Speaker 1: and just as he apologize, a massive storm takes over
Speaker 1: the sky and the Goblin appears. He alerts them the
Speaker 1: moment of destiny has her and all that was going
Speaker 1: through my head was the dad and back to the future.
Speaker 1: You are my density. The Goblin wants to return to
Speaker 1: the mortal world. The humans have stolen it from them
Speaker 1: and he's not going to take it anymore. He's building
Speaker 1: an army to take it back and leave Halloween Town.
Speaker 1: It's time to show humans who they really are. And
Speaker 1: then he morphs into his true identity, Mayor Calibar, who
Speaker 1: it turns out was just a d bag this entire time,
Speaker 1: which I think Aggie should have figured out immediately. Did
Speaker 1: this trick you? Did you know it was him? I mean,
Speaker 1: just kind of right off the bat, it.
Speaker 2: Was there was no one else that could have been
Speaker 2: at all. They they didn't introduce any other maybe characters, right,
Speaker 2: there was no besides the nose job kid other than that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there wasn't even a red herring. It was just
Speaker 1: like there who else could be?
Speaker 2: Obviously him? You know, unless it was going to be
Speaker 2: some unexpected person out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a total differently, Yeah, but it had to
Speaker 1: have been him. The other thing I noticed was are
Speaker 1: they trying trying to say that most of the town
Speaker 1: now is under the spell? Because to them, he's making
Speaker 1: some pretty good points, and you see a lot of
Speaker 1: them nodding like, yeah, we should go and kill all
Speaker 1: these humans. Yes, yeah, So I think that's what it is,
Speaker 1: is that they're all kind of slowly starting to fall
Speaker 1: under his spell, right right, Well.
Speaker 2: I think I think at the his his rasoning was,
Speaker 2: We're why was it the humans get to stay in
Speaker 2: the same world that we all lived in? Why is
Speaker 2: it that were in this realm?
Speaker 6: You know what?
Speaker 2: They're kind of probably going, Yeah, I mean, we've got
Speaker 2: such a small town, this is it.
Speaker 3: There's nowhere to go.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got enough magic to make a town,
Speaker 1: make the town bigger. You can't magic up a strip,
Speaker 1: mallcy have something to do. I mean, come on, but I.
Speaker 2: Also I'll get I guess it's okay to get to
Speaker 2: it before Sabrita seas. But these frozen zombies or frozen
Speaker 2: people in the theater, yeah, people in the theater. I
Speaker 2: don't know what was his plan with what were they going?
Speaker 1: I think maybe those are the most powerful people in
Speaker 1: town that would be able to stop him. So he
Speaker 1: was able to take them and.
Speaker 2: Freeze the collecting them, like as if he's going to
Speaker 2: use them.
Speaker 1: So here's like, here's here's what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the whole battle, Like, yeah.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he's collecting them to then when he gets
Speaker 1: the talisman he can really activate them all to be
Speaker 1: his minions and go take over the world. I guess
Speaker 1: that's what we'll say. I also didn't understand why shooting
Speaker 1: just at this point is he's giving his speech, just
Speaker 1: run up and stick the thing in the pumpkin. You're
Speaker 1: five feet away at this point.
Speaker 3: Now's your time anyway.
Speaker 1: Now Calibar. Calibar, which sounds like Caldor, which is a
Speaker 1: place I used to shop as a kid, wants to
Speaker 1: kill Marnie in order to start his world domination plan,
Speaker 1: which we're trying to figure out exactly what it is.
Speaker 1: When he believes he sees in the crowd, he shoots
Speaker 1: out fireballs, totally hitting his target. There's Marnie, but it's
Speaker 1: actually Luke. He made himself a decoy. While Marnie did
Speaker 1: go to the giant pumpkin, the goblin shoots her with
Speaker 1: fireballs just as she's about to place it in there,
Speaker 1: because he walks over he sees its Luke. Oh no,
Speaker 1: she's at the pumpkin. He shoots her with fireballs, leaving
Speaker 1: her motionless on top of the pumpkin. But as she's
Speaker 1: fading away and we watch on with bated breath, Marnie
Speaker 1: lets go of the towsman, placing it into the pumpkin
Speaker 1: and blasting Klibar with light. Not only does this knock
Speaker 1: him down, it wakes up all the prisoners in the theater,
Speaker 1: including Gwen, Aggie, and even the weird neighbor lady Harriet.
Speaker 1: The family meets back up in the town center, so
Speaker 1: happy to see each other. Marnie reveals it was Calibar
Speaker 1: just as nearby he's shaking off the attack. He screams
Speaker 1: at Gwen she should have been his queen, but instead
Speaker 1: she picked a human. His darkness will now spread unchecked.
Speaker 1: He steals back to talisman, and even though Aggie and
Speaker 1: Gwen team up to cast a spelling him, nothing is working.
Speaker 1: But nearby, little Dylan, the sibling without any powers, is
Speaker 1: getting very angry and also looks down and his hands
Speaker 1: are starting to sparkle. He's actually a warlock. So finally,
Speaker 1: all the family members, a new coven of sorts, Marnie's grandma, mom, brothers,
Speaker 1: and Marnie herself combine their skills by holding hands and believing.
Speaker 1: And then Kalibar, who's just been standing there the whole
Speaker 1: time watching them concoct a plan, not even trying to
Speaker 1: fight them in any way, shape or for him, disintegrates,
Speaker 1: sending the talisman pocket. No, not a good time to
Speaker 1: shoot fireballs. I'm gonna give you several minutes to plan
Speaker 1: my demise. Yes, but yes, they just by the belief,
Speaker 1: because again none of them are trained to do shit.
Speaker 1: They get there and boom, they save the day. In
Speaker 1: all the celebration, Gwen and Marney make up. She's everything
Speaker 1: gwenever wanted and a daughter. Marne notices very sweet moment
Speaker 1: mark this is another sweet moment. Marne notices Luke nearby,
Speaker 1: sulking under his robe. He reveals that he's turned into
Speaker 1: his old self, a magical elf monster who's just cute
Speaker 1: as a button, and I can see town villagers running
Speaker 1: out of town with pitchforks and torches. He wanted to
Speaker 1: be handsome just to get a date with Marnie. A
Speaker 1: shocked Marnie kisses him on the cheek, which is going
Speaker 1: to cause problems later on down the line when that
Speaker 1: forms something on her lips and thanks him she will
Speaker 1: look him up if she ever returns, which we know
Speaker 1: she does because there is a Halloween two. This time
Speaker 1: it's personal. As the town gathers around the Cromwells, it's
Speaker 1: decided that Aggie will come to live in the human
Speaker 1: world and Gwen will finish Marnie's witch training. You st
Speaker 1: out with their own broom. Yeah, that we're gonna here's
Speaker 1: here's how you do stuff. Luke is driving the bus
Speaker 1: into the sky, leaving behind Harriet, Benny and every weirdo
Speaker 1: monster we've seen for the past hour and a half.
Speaker 1: We fade out, and that is your movie. Real reviews Sabrina. Yeah, craziness, fun,
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. You gotta let y'all let God with this
Speaker 1: one a little bit, but you know what, it's absolutely
Speaker 1: worth it.
Speaker 2: Disney movie, like I said, was my Disney Channel era
Speaker 2: is it? It was awesome, a little bit over the
Speaker 2: top as far is, like you said, more cartoony than
Speaker 2: a Johnny Tsunami, but still so good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree on undred percent. Why don't you do
Speaker 1: our five star review Sabrina?
Speaker 3: That was all right right?
Speaker 2: This is from Sarah M my family's favorite Halloween fun movie.
Speaker 2: I watched it on Disney and I love that my
Speaker 2: daughter and I can watch it again together. Yes, Sarah,
Speaker 2: you and I are Huntos on that great so fun?
Speaker 1: What is Huntos together? Oh cool?
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 1: My one star review is from Bob l and this
Speaker 1: might be the most most accurate one star review I've
Speaker 1: ever read. This movie is why Bertha took Tim Sim,
Speaker 1: Bim Yim Pim Wim Fim Dim Viim Quim and Jim
Speaker 1: away from me. If it wasn't for this terrible piece
Speaker 1: of film, I would still be a loving father. The
Speaker 1: characters in this movie were too ugly and smelly for
Speaker 1: me and my family to bear. Also, which it should
Speaker 1: be burn at the Steak. In conclusion, this movie also
Speaker 1: gave me a terminal case of herpies because of the spells.
Speaker 1: Do not watch one star Bob. Bob's working on a
Speaker 1: whole different level of problems with.
Speaker 5: Bob yikeb but somebody, somebody who hurts you.
Speaker 2: I believe this is his call for.
Speaker 1: Help, because seriously.
Speaker 2: We need to worry about what's happening over there.
Speaker 1: With oh Bob. Alrighty, We are now going to get
Speaker 1: to our favorite part of our podcast every week, the
Speaker 1: feature our game, the Sabrina Game. This game this week
Speaker 1: is called cost whom get it like? Costume? Thank you?
Speaker 1: As we approach Halloween or all all of Eve, which
Speaker 1: is the way you're supposed to say it, it's time
Speaker 1: to look back at last year for a little glimpse
Speaker 1: into this year. We are being asked to name five
Speaker 1: of the ten most popular Halloween costumes last year, according
Speaker 1: to visualcapitalist dot com. We get five wrong before we
Speaker 1: get five right, we're out. Keep in mind the Australian
Speaker 1: Breakdancer was this year. Yikes.
Speaker 4: I'll also say that you guys have five guesses. I mean,
Speaker 4: I think that's safer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah. If you can make five.
Speaker 4: Okay, and I'll get If you can get three out
Speaker 4: of your five, I'll even give you a win.
Speaker 2: What are so what are some of the top I
Speaker 2: just heard this on the news somewhere. You did, uh,
Speaker 2: I only remember, I really remember.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw a guess out. I'm gonna throw a
Speaker 1: guess out. Is Donald Trump? One?
Speaker 4: Donald Trump is not on the list. Okay, So you
Speaker 4: have four guesses left to get three?
Speaker 2: Okay. I do think the Beetlejuice franchise is going to
Speaker 2: be a big one.
Speaker 4: Wait, no, this is from last year.
Speaker 2: You know this was last year.
Speaker 1: I thought it was the No, that's why we can't
Speaker 1: take Australian breakdancer, who will certainly win this year.
Speaker 2: I stopped listening. My anxiety took over.
Speaker 3: We're here. Last year.
Speaker 2: Was okay? Last year?
Speaker 1: What was big in twenty twenty three?
Speaker 3: What were the marvel things? What was a Marvel thing?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe Captain America would be big.
Speaker 2: Captain America Wednesday was big last Wednesday.
Speaker 4: You got Wednesday. So you have to nail two more
Speaker 4: in a row to get a win.
Speaker 1: Now it's in a row because your two guesses last.
Speaker 4: Last few guesses.
Speaker 1: Oh wait wait, I'm not guessing yet. But so this
Speaker 1: is just Spraina. What about what about like Stranger Things?
Speaker 1: Would that be one that was big last year, wasn't it?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But is there costumes?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think I can't.
Speaker 4: Harris, if we do it, like I also throw out,
Speaker 4: I also will throw it. It doesn't have to be
Speaker 4: pop culture. I mean, there are pop cultures on here,
Speaker 4: but it doesn't have to be pop culture right right.
Speaker 1: It could Nurse.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna like Aerial Ariel because that came out.
Speaker 4: No, I'm only gonna let will give one more guests
Speaker 4: purely out of out of sad bit spite.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Stranger Things.
Speaker 4: There's no Stranger Things. This is gonna blow your minds
Speaker 4: because this is so easy. But I don't know how. Okay,
Speaker 4: Barbie number one, big year?
Speaker 2: Oh Barbie was so big? Okay? Yes, just a princess,
Speaker 2: Just a princess.
Speaker 4: Yes, Spider Man, which could have Gwen Good instead of
Speaker 4: Captain America, a Witch, which I feel like was right
Speaker 4: on the tee for you, Fairy Wednesday Adams which you
Speaker 4: guys got, Dinosaur, Cowboy, Ninja Bunny.
Speaker 1: Oh my God, so we were overthinking everything. Gotcha, Well,
Speaker 1: let's do it again. Okay, I'm a guest Cowboy, Bunny yep,
Speaker 1: spider Man.
Speaker 4: Spider Man, spider Man, right, yeah it congratulations, Yes we won.
Speaker 4: I'm sure that'll edit clean.
Speaker 1: Great. Can we do Sabrina Seas? Yes?
Speaker 2: And listen. This one I cannot believe. As soon as
Speaker 2: I saw it, I'm like, oh, Will's gonna call me
Speaker 2: out on it. I can't wait to hear what he
Speaker 2: has to say when they get off the bus. It
Speaker 2: is me when I'm one hundred and fifteen years old
Speaker 2: as a skeleton cheetah girl. The cheating there. I had
Speaker 2: to cheetah girl, I had to toe cheetah outfit with
Speaker 2: this big hat, and I'm like, oh, here we go.
Speaker 2: We was gonna call I didn't see it. But when
Speaker 2: you ask you that, but you did ask me about
Speaker 2: what my favorite monster was, that one was.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's of course, that's awesome. I didn't even see it.
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 2: And the aerobics girl that's in the she had a
Speaker 2: little bit of cheetah.
Speaker 1: I will say.
Speaker 2: That's when I started looking at the costumes and realizing
Speaker 2: and I know you're giving the explanation that they're like
Speaker 2: trick or treating ish, Yeah, they're because it bothered me
Speaker 2: that they would only have a head and then the
Speaker 2: like for instance, Monster, the rest you could see their
Speaker 2: normal skin color under their clothes, like they didn't even
Speaker 2: have long sleeve to where you just you know what,
Speaker 2: they didn't cover it up. That really bothered me throughout
Speaker 2: the whole movie.
Speaker 1: That made it be different in the next movies like
Speaker 1: that added a little money or something.
Speaker 2: I thought the rest, like the heads were so impressive
Speaker 2: that they had the makeup was so great, but a
Speaker 2: lot of times when you saw the actor's real skin,
Speaker 2: it kind of broke what it was supposed to.
Speaker 1: Gotcha?
Speaker 2: And then did you This is more of a question
Speaker 2: when he kept miss saying her name, Sophie, what was
Speaker 2: he saying? I listened so soapy?
Speaker 1: Okay, Sophie, could he Sophie.
Speaker 2: Couldn't couldn't hear that? I did not get That came
Speaker 2: up a couple of times, Sophie, like what is he?
Speaker 1: Because they were trying to make him seem like he's
Speaker 1: Convivio and all that kind when in fact you knew
Speaker 1: he was, Like you got to be the bad guy,
Speaker 1: You're the only dude we've met in.
Speaker 2: Town exactly exactly the Wiener thing killed me.
Speaker 1: Oh god, it's not the best.
Speaker 2: She also has copy it says, copied the ingredients from
Speaker 2: Grandma's book.
Speaker 3: When did that happen? Well, when when did.
Speaker 1: She got off camera?
Speaker 2: It was never a moment that she could have literally
Speaker 2: wrote down all these things. No, that that was insane.
Speaker 2: And then it's two more when Marnie's on the pumpkin.
Speaker 2: Now that we've seen Sophie rescue the rest of the
Speaker 2: family several times, the times I thought it was gonna
Speaker 2: be Sophie that like snuck in and actually put it
Speaker 2: in or justic it was like her magic was going
Speaker 2: to actually do it. Like Marnie at this point is useless.
Speaker 2: I love Kimberly, I love you, but Marnie has become
Speaker 2: useless in this movie. I hope for Sallie. Sophie is,
Speaker 2: as you know, kind of upset. And then the last
Speaker 2: I thought you were going to talk about this too,
Speaker 2: You and Jensen neither one brought this up, which I
Speaker 2: thought was such a funny thing. What he says, I
Speaker 2: guess that I didn't turn into a handsome prince. And
Speaker 2: she says no really, no, no, she's just no, it's
Speaker 2: just you know you didn't. But it was so funny,
Speaker 2: like like nice moment. I mean, you're still cute. I
Speaker 2: still like, yeah, you're handsome.
Speaker 1: I think you look better this way or something that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she says, no, no.
Speaker 1: No, you're right. And there's a smell now.
Speaker 2: Luke, you also smells.
Speaker 1: Let's get that y all right, and thank you for
Speaker 1: those And now we must rate our film. We've got
Speaker 1: one out of ten, one being the worst and ten
Speaker 1: being the best, of course, like human beings and our
Speaker 1: one out of ten. Possibilities this week are Merlin Talisman's
Speaker 1: one out of ten, d and D playing Mary Poppins
Speaker 1: one out of ten, real flamethrowers one out of ten,
Speaker 1: Scary Harriet's ghost saunas one out of ten, bowling pig
Speaker 1: faces one at ten, electrified Dylan's or one out of
Speaker 1: ten skeleton taxi drivers. Which one you want, Sabrina.
Speaker 2: I think you can pick this one.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going with bowling pig faces. That's fair, going
Speaker 1: to do it. I think that's also my turn to
Speaker 1: rate first, isn't it. I really liked this movie for
Speaker 1: what exactly what it was very disney Esque, very Disney enjoyable.
Speaker 1: This is a solid eight point five from me. This
Speaker 1: is eight point five Bowling Pickfaces. We've done a couple
Speaker 1: of great movies in a row, and there's a reason
Speaker 1: why kids love this and adults love it. It's just fun.
Speaker 1: It was a fun movie, fully enjoyable. The kids were great.
Speaker 1: The story again is what the story is, but it's
Speaker 1: very Harry Potter, very Mary Poppins. I was into it.
Speaker 2: Eight point five nice, I'm very close to that. Again.
Speaker 2: I loved it. This was the realm of when I
Speaker 2: was really loving the Disney Channel, even as a young
Speaker 2: or an older viewer at this point.
Speaker 3: You know then you know junior high.
Speaker 2: I loved it. It took me. It did take me
Speaker 2: a second to turn my brain off of trying to
Speaker 2: pick everything apart with it. There was that, and there
Speaker 2: were a few things that it couldn't get past. And
Speaker 2: that's why I'm going to go to an eight Bowling
Speaker 2: pick Faces, just because I really knowing there's four movies
Speaker 2: in this m Yeah, they did the fourth one without
Speaker 2: the incredible Kimberly because it's like that shows you how
Speaker 2: big this franchise is. Yeah, that I think there's room
Speaker 2: to grow, so I'm gonna start with an eight bowling pigs.
Speaker 1: Okay, I love it. Thank you so much, Sabrina, and
Speaker 1: thank you so much everybody else for joining us our
Speaker 1: next movie. It's happening people. We're doing smart House. I
Speaker 1: don't even know how else to tell you. Smart House
Speaker 1: will be next. We're gonna follow it immediately by its sequel,
Speaker 1: Stupid Apartment. I'm kidding. We are just doing smart House.
Speaker 1: Smart House is next. And while we wait, get to
Speaker 1: our magical rewind feed to check out our park Copper
Speaker 1: interview with Gwen Piper herself, Judah Hoague, that's right, who
Speaker 1: talked to us all about Halloween Town. And of course
Speaker 1: we also had to talk April O'Neil from Teenie Muetan
Speaker 1: Ninja Turtles. Here's a quick sneak peek.
Speaker 2: We went on this adventure.
Speaker 6: It was just supposed to be one film, and it
Speaker 6: did so well programming wise, like it just broke all
Speaker 6: their records and they rushed a second one out.
Speaker 2: Oh really they did. So it was a quick, quick,
Speaker 2: It was nice.
Speaker 6: Quick, but we didn't end up going back to Saint Helen's, Oregon,
Speaker 6: where we shot the first one.
Speaker 3: We ended up going to Vancouver, Oh.
Speaker 6: And we did the second one there and then there
Speaker 6: was a little bit more of a pause in between
Speaker 6: the second and the third one, and then we went
Speaker 6: to Salt Lake City and then we shot the last
Speaker 6: two there.
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