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Speaker 1: Little Jimmy Sullivan, I remember there was a quarterback content.

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Speaker 1: He did say, Poppy beat out Jimmy Sullivans. That was

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Speaker 1: a really awkward answer. Mac has seventy nine in an eighth,

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Speaker 1: so he's in the ninetieth. Nothing related to the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: Like it was just crazy. What are you saying here?

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Speaker 1: Says here? Just tell us who the starter is? What

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Speaker 1: does it mean? Evan was funny because Evan was mad

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Speaker 1: before the game. You know, the fog is started, really

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Speaker 1: worried about the all twenty two. I got to bed

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Speaker 1: at three and I was up at six. You know

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Speaker 1: what I got, Paul, You know the you know this

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Speaker 1: sound that sounded like a fourteen year old boy stomping, stomping.

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Speaker 1: I get the dog licking me. You got to take

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Speaker 1: him for a walk and get him outside. No, he

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Speaker 1: had already been up, but he's just you know, he

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Speaker 1: likes My taste is Patriot's Unfiltered fueled by Duncan. All right,

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Speaker 1: welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Wednesday here at Lett's Stadium,

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Speaker 1: a real Wednesday. Wednesday's Wednesday this week. And it's Paul,

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Speaker 1: it's me, it's Evan. He's here. Mike's under the weather.

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Speaker 1: He's not here. Yeah, no Mike, Yeah, no Mike today,

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Speaker 1: No Mike on the mic. I know. But it's a

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Speaker 1: good day to have Evan here because it's all this

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Speaker 1: talk about what what does the offense look you know

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Speaker 1: with Matt Verse, what it looks like with Zappy? Are

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Speaker 1: they calling different plays? Are they you know, the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: So it's good to have Evan here because he did

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Speaker 1: break it down. You can see it on Patriots dot com.

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Speaker 1: But I'm sure he's got other things to add here.

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Speaker 1: And you know, there's just so much swirling right now

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Speaker 1: with the Patriots. And I would say, if if you

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Speaker 1: took a poll, doesn't necessarily have to be Paul's pole,

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Speaker 1: But if you took a pole, I would think most

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Speaker 1: people are putting this whole thing on the coaches, as

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Speaker 1: they should quite frankly, because the best way I can

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Speaker 1: describe it, because I know Zappy went on radio yesterday

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Speaker 1: and said, we got the same game plan, right, We're

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Speaker 1: going off the same script. But the best way I

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Speaker 1: can describe it is if the three of us go

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Speaker 1: but we all order different things. We didn't have the

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Speaker 1: same thing for dinner, right. You know, just because they're

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Speaker 1: going in to the game with the same script doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean the players are coming out in the same order

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Speaker 1: but at the same time, etc. But let me ask

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Speaker 1: like would the script have been the same for Zappy

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Speaker 1: after the third series of doing nothing, would they have

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Speaker 1: called similar place to what they? You know, So there's

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Speaker 1: so many elements right now, I'm gonna go with it.

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Speaker 1: They set Mac up to Phil, Yeah, I don't make

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Speaker 1: a lot more sense. I don't think, right, but that's

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Speaker 1: what some people are saying. People, Yeah, do you realize that?

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Speaker 1: Not really? But anyway, what do you mean not really?

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Speaker 1: People are saying like not anybody of substances. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no, I'm not talking I'm talking about fans.

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Speaker 1: They're sabotaging Mac right, yeah, yeah, no, I don't think

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Speaker 1: it was the overthrow of Taekwon Thornton. Yeah, was Hunter

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Speaker 1: it's first and ten, right, It's first and ten from

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Speaker 1: still a vertical pass concept that they're trying to run

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Speaker 1: there's times and places, you know, everybody says, well, you

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Speaker 1: last year, everybody was saying, let Matt cook, like what

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Speaker 1: do you want you know, you want him to open

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Speaker 1: I just think there's a time and place for both things, right,

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Speaker 1: And when you're starting a drive, everybody talks about drive starters,

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Speaker 1: like that's so important for a quarterback, especially early on

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Speaker 1: in the game in the opening script, to just have

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Speaker 1: that first pass play, even if it's a five yard completion,

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Speaker 1: because the very first play of the game that Bailey

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Speaker 1: Zappy throws a pass, it's just a five yard hitch

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Speaker 1: it's just a five yard It's just a five yard pass.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, to the left side, he's

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Speaker 1: running up the field. These are all short options no

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Speaker 1: And yeah, when Matt comes in, it's bombs away, like

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Speaker 1: there's just it's right in front of you. It's I

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Speaker 1: it didn't work. So by the time Zappy came in,

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Speaker 1: Mac Like well he did that first half and the

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Speaker 1: two plays that they had success with with both bombs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like they're different. They're dressed up differently though, Right, It's

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Speaker 1: it's those are things that Zappy does better, and they

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Speaker 1: and they catered things to Zappy when he's in the game,

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Speaker 1: the things that Zappy does well as opposed to things

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what i'm seeing, and what I'm

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Speaker 1: It's right because I think they have to do that

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Speaker 1: that's good coaching. You can't just treat all your players

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Speaker 1: the problem is, I agree with you, but it's not

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Speaker 1: too ahead of ourselves with Mac Jones' development and thinking.

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Speaker 1: That's a different argument. I could agree with that. You know,

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Speaker 1: we're we're skipping steps here. We're going from the training

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Speaker 1: wheels offense as I call it to you know, Bruce,

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Speaker 1: arians is no risk, it no biscuit with five men

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Speaker 1: in the in the route and everything. It seems to

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Speaker 1: me like there a lot of people were saying, you know,

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Speaker 1: when Mac was in there, things just weren't working. Zappy

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Speaker 1: team is at a crossroads. It can you know, it's

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Speaker 1: one of those look in the mirror type of moments

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Speaker 1: and that's the drama that I think Isa, Like, I know,

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Speaker 1: that throws. It's Josh Allen, it's Justin Herbert, it's Patrick Mahomes. Like,

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Speaker 1: if you're not one of those three guys, that's an

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Speaker 1: interception ten out of ten times. And I actually thought

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Speaker 1: it was a good decision not to throw the ball,

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Speaker 1: because these are the decisions that we've seen him make

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Speaker 1: and that he's been picked off on. And that's the

429
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Speaker 1: problem is what they're calling is asking him to do

430
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Speaker 1: things he's not good at. And whether he thinks that

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Speaker 1: this is the best thing for him because he wants

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Speaker 1: to air it out, or they think it's the best

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Speaker 1: thing because they want him to air it out, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. But either way, you have to come to

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Speaker 1: terms of the fact that this is just not the

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Speaker 1: quarterback that you drafted. If this is what you wanted,

437
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Speaker 1: then you should have drafted the quarterback he played on

438
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 1: Monday night, not not mac Jones. You know, if he

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Speaker 1: wanted a big arm quarterback to push the ball vertically

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Speaker 1: down the field, then he drafted the wrong guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I would agree with with Evan's assessment of mac Jones,

442
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Speaker 1: But I the only thing that I would sort of

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Speaker 1: push back. I just don't think he's playing well. I

444
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Speaker 1: don't think it's the fault of the play calls. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think you can go with raw data and say

446
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: the interceptions themselves have happened on some of these plays.

447
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 1: And I agree again with Evan. I've seen him throw

448
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 1: the ball underneath right two defensive backs and have and

449
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: watch them drive. I saw a quick out against Baltimore,

450
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Speaker 1: dropped by Patrick Queen. I saw a little hitch route

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Speaker 1: that he kind of got off platform a little to

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Speaker 1: Evan's point about once he's off platform, the arm strength

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Speaker 1: is a little bit different. He tried to throw it

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Speaker 1: across his body, hit Cam Sutton for Pittsburgh right right

455
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Speaker 1: in the chest. Like these are not pushing the ball

456
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Speaker 1: downfield mistakes. They didn't result in interceptions because the other

457
00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: team dropped them. So the actual interceptions of common balls

458
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Speaker 1: down field, I think he's played nowhere near as well

459
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Speaker 1: as he did nowhere near as efficiently as he did

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Speaker 1: last year on all on almost all throws. I just

461
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 1: don't think he looks right. But I think you got

462
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 1: to work through it. I think this is the guy

463
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: that you drafted in the first round. You're gonna figure out.

464
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: Like we said yesterday, Freddie, where you know, where are

465
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Speaker 1: you at the end of the year. Like, unless you're

466
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Speaker 1: you're like one thousand percent convinced does thatpy guy? People

467
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Speaker 1: are missing it, but he can do a B and C.

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Speaker 1: I think Bailey Zappy is Taylor Heinecke. I think he's

469
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Speaker 1: an undersized, scrappy kid who clearly has some energy that

470
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Speaker 1: the team feeds off of. That will be a backup

471
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Speaker 1: and you can live with him for for for short spurts.

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Speaker 1: I just think you kind of even saw it on

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Speaker 1: Monday night the second half as the game war on.

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Speaker 1: You know, let's face this, go it twice when they

475
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Speaker 1: took over at midfield, when they had to take over

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Speaker 1: at their own twenty five, they got no points, just

477
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Speaker 1: like they got no points when Mac Jones had to

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Speaker 1: take over its twenty five all night. Yeah, Like, I'm

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Speaker 1: not discounting what Billy Zappie has done he's a rookie,

480
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,679
Speaker 1: he came in as a third string quarterback, and he

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Speaker 1: has done really well. Like, I'm not telling you this

482
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: kid stinks and doesn't even deserve to be talked about.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying that in my opinions, he kind of

484
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Speaker 1: like still profiles as a backup to me. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make excuses for Mac and say, oh,

486
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Speaker 1: you know, he's playing poorly just because of this, But

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Speaker 1: I do think that when you look at how teams

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Speaker 1: handle young quarterbacks across the league, and we always used

489
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: to laugh at the other teams that would ruin young quarterbacks,

490
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 1: right like, this is what you do to ruin a

491
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Speaker 1: young quarterback. The playbook is the Patriots are checking all

492
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Speaker 1: the boxes there. He transitions to a new offensive coordinator

493
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 1: in his second season that's not really an offensive coordinator.

494
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Speaker 1: Then they run a scheme that doesn't fit his style

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Speaker 1: of play, doesn't fit his skill set. And I think

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Speaker 1: the decisions that Paul's talking about on some of the

497
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: shorter throws are absolutely valid. But this is a nurture issue,

498
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: right Like, I don't think that Mac makes there's many

499
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Speaker 1: mistakes in that type of way. If everything else is

500
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: cleaner for him is everything, you know, I think his

501
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: whole decision making process, I mean, especially under pressure, where

502
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 1: he's one of the worst rated quarterbacks in the league

503
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: right now with pressure. I think all these things go

504
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,959
Speaker 1: back to the fact that he's just not comfortable with

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Speaker 1: what they're running, you know. And one of the other

506
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Speaker 1: things about the game is, you know, we're all like, well,

507
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: Win's out, that's no big loss. But having win in

508
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 1: Cannon in there I think helped. That's when they ran better,

509
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: is when they had that tackle eligible and they you know,

510
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: so they kind of missed that when Win wasn't in

511
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Speaker 1: there being able to do that because they didn't run

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Speaker 1: the ball. Well, yeah, they didn't run it well against

513
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Speaker 1: Cleveland either. I don't think they've ran the ball well

514
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Speaker 1: from a blocking standpoint in three weeks. I think that

515
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Speaker 1: a Detroit game, ormondre put the team on his back

516
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Speaker 1: and had one hundred eleven yards after contact out of

517
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Speaker 1: one sixty. These last three games, there have been some

518
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: blocking breakdowns in the run game for sure, and teams

519
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: are starting to stack the box again, especially against Zappi.

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00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 1: But even against Mac on Sunday night, I mean they

521
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 1: or Monday night they're you know, eleven personnel shotgun and

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Speaker 1: they are still got eight guys in the box, like

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Speaker 1: they just don't care, you know, So they're loading the

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Speaker 1: box against them, and you know, they're struggling to run

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Speaker 1: block right now in general, and I think that there's

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Speaker 1: some elements to it that have worked in their favor

527
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: because the play action has been so successful because teams

528
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: are attacking the line of scrimmage against them, but they

529
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: have to figure out ways to be able to run

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Speaker 1: the ball and go back to having that be part

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Speaker 1: of their identity. Really, this is something that's been on

532
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: my radar since the Lions game because Romandre he ran

533
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: his butt off in that Detroit game and really was

534
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Speaker 1: a big reason why they got a lot of those

535
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Speaker 1: yards even against Detroit. Tamara joins us, anything on your mind?

536
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Speaker 1: What are you thinking about thinking about the heavy size? Yeah,

537
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: a lot of heavy size with Samara. I know, just

538
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: I honestly, I feel like I'm in a fog kind

539
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: of like the weather outside in terms of like do

540
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: that fever created a fog? Is that what you're saying?

541
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: Monday night game? The Monday night game. I just feel

542
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: like and the fog is still outside Mondays are tough

543
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: because you have the whole week after the night game,

544
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: Like Thurst Day, You're like, ah, the weekends here right now. Yeah,

545
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: it's tough. Yeah, but I'm hoping that the locker room

546
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: doesn't feel the same like drugginess is, like, you know,

547
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: dragging on from what happened on Monday night. I'm hoping

548
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: that they've already turned the page. I hope. I hope

549
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: their actions match their words. Like, you know, obviously obviously

550
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: they say like we're turning the page to the Jets,

551
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: but like, I hope that they've mentally turned the page

552
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 1: to the Jets. Yeah, I need to mentally turn the

553
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: page to the Jets. Yeah. Like I said, they've had

554
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: these low points before. Yeah, and you know they've come

555
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: out of some of them. Um, most of the time

556
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: they were able to turn it around. But you know,

557
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: you had Tom Brady. Um. But you know, Bill knows

558
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: what to say in these moments. The question is who's listening? Yeah,

559
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 1: you know, and that's what we're gonna find out. And

560
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: do they like what they hear? Yeah, yep, yeah, if

561
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: if it was Look, I said this about Bill on

562
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 1: Tuesday morning, and he didn't do it. Either. But to me,

563
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: like the best example is like the Cowboys, right when

564
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: Dak got hurt, there was Dak is the quarterback, Like

565
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: there's no question, like in anybody's mind in the organization.

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00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones comes out and says it. McCarthy comes out

567
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: and says it like this is our qb end of story,

568
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: whether he tells them behind closed doors and just doesn't

569
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: share it publicly or not for some reason. And I

570
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: think you two can speak to this like for some

571
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: reason there's saying it publicly like matters in this sport,

572
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: being like this is our guy and this is what

573
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: we're doing. It matters more than any other sport that

574
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: I can think of, because there's not really any equivalent

575
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: to the quarterback in other sports. And I think him

576
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: coming up to the podium and saying, look Max the quarterback. Wait.

577
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: But but I have heard coaches say this is our

578
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: guy and then two seconds later they get another one.

579
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: So for example, the Panthers, Sam Donald is our guy.

580
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: We're not interested in Baker Mayfield, we're not interested in him.

581
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: We've got our guy, and then it's like two months

582
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: later Baker yeah, So like yeah, the Cardinals, Yeah, you

583
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: finally came out and said, Sam, Donald is your guy?

584
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: Looks like he wasn't your guy. Yeah, but that was

585
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: after he played. No, Like during the draft they were like, oh,

586
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: there were reports going around like oh, they're going to

587
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: pick up Baker, right, but Donald had played portally for them.

588
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: It's my point, like mac Jones went ten and seven,

589
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: went to the playoffs, got hurt, and like there was

590
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: radio silence. So like Tavin's point, now, I also get you.

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00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: I'll argue with myself because that's what I um. You

592
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: know Dak Prescott here and you know mac Jones is

593
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: down here. They're not exactly the same thing. But I

594
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: do think Bill should have recognized the potential for having

595
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: what happened, Ye happened right, and nipped it in the bud.

596
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: And I think instead he kind of fanned the flames.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that do you think he I guess, like,

598
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,719
Speaker 1: do you think that he knew Zappy would go out

599
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: there and do what he did? No? I do you

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Speaker 1: think he's as shocked as I think there's a chance

601
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 1: of that. Yes, I think that that he greatly exceeded

602
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: their expectation. Yeah, I think there was a chance of that. Yeah,

603
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: But I also think, you know, and he could you know,

604
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 1: right or wrong. He could have said, I'm going to

605
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: use this as a little experiment, a little you know,

606
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: test of of of max grit. You know, I'm not gonna,

607
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: you know, declare him. I'm gonna make him. You know,

608
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: he had a sense of entitlement. Yeah, maybe for whatever reason.

609
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: Like I gonna tell this, I don't know this young

610
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: guy yet. He's only been here a year, and I

611
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: want to I want to test him a little bit.

612
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: What's he made of? Yeah, I do think that knock

613
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: him down a pig. Well, that's your word. Couple of

614
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: those aren't None of them. None of them are my words.

615
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: The words of reports that are okay, I'm tationally using that.

616
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: You know, everybody that couldn't possibly see what was happening

617
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: was just all too willing. I'm not saying that. Yeah.

618
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: I think you can be, you know, a bit comfortable

619
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: when your first round draft pick, like you've been made

620
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: the starter over a veteran guy like Cam Newton, and

621
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, well I'm secure, I'm here, this is fine. Um,

622
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: I think you can't get in that spot where you're

623
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: comfortable You're like, I'm good. I have nothing to worry

624
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: about and then something like this happened. Yeah, and it

625
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he's a bad guy or like uncoachable kid,

626
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: but yeah, I could naturally feel there's there's an element

627
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: of I'm standing on third, but I didn't really hit

628
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: a triple, you know. I mean, I get that he

629
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: beat out Cam Newton, who the previous year was the

630
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: worst quarter back I've ever seen in football. And I

631
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: love Cam Newton the player, like that. The ten years

632
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: that he played in Carolina, let's call it eight years, um,

633
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: I loved watching that guy play, loved it, loved watching

634
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: him play. He wasn't that guy when he played for

635
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: the Patriots. He was done and he wasn't that guy

636
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: at the end of Carolina. You know That's why. So

637
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: let's call it. But we're at a moment, you know,

638
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: we're at a moment. I've never been in a postgame

639
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: locker room like that where you walk around the offensive

640
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: area of the locker room and guys are just shell

641
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: shocked and you go up to guys. I mean, Romandre Stevenson,

642
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: I think, gave the same answer four straight answers in

643
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 1: a row because he just didn't know what to say.

644
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: And then Jacobe, you know, I thought was the most

645
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: honest about it, and he was dejected of what happened

646
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: to Mac. And whether we get into that, you know,

647
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: we have Mac Mac guys and Zappy guys or whatever.

648
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: Like clearly a lot of the important players on offense

649
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: are behind Mac because that that's the team captain, that's

650
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: the guy from the you know, the starter last year

651
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: and the starter beginning of this year. And to hear

652
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: Jacobe talk about how dejected and you know how they

653
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: felt bad for the Zappy chance and then getting pulled

654
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: from the game when he got pulled from the game

655
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: after the bad interception, and I think it left a mark,

656
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: like I really do. I think it left a mark

657
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: on on the whole performance for the offense because I

658
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: think they kind of a they didn't weren't told ahead

659
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: of time, most of them who was starting or what

660
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: the plan was. And then b they get into the game,

661
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: and the crowd the second that Mac runs on the field,

662
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: even before he throws the pass, is already chanting for

663
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: the other guy. Then he throws a bad pick and

664
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 1: it the optics of it looked terrible, looked like they

665
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: just pulled him from the game, and you know, everybody

666
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: that you talked to on the offensive side of the

667
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: football was we had no idea. But I don't think

668
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: Bailey Zappy really had any clue that that was how

669
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: they Yeah, I mean, he said that he found out

670
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: that he was starting at the same time that all

671
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: of us, or that Mac was starting the same time

672
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: y'all did, same time, y'all y'all did, probably because Adam

673
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: Schefter or ESPN you know, said it on the broadcast

674
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: or whatever. Bill said it on the sports ub pregame show,

675
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: and that's when Bailey's Appy finds out too. I mean,

676
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: you just can't have that kind of what do you

677
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: think the chances are? At twelve forty five, Bill comes

678
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: out and says, you know, because he'll be asked, he

679
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: won't offer it in his opening summation, but when he's

680
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: asked it, now, Mac's gonna start this week. I think

681
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: there's a chance that if he if he's ready to

682
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 1: announce it, it will be in his opening statement. Okay,

683
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: he'll you know, you know, getting ready on the Jets.

684
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: You know, they're really impressive, and he'll put everybody to

685
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: sleep with the next two paragraphs of how explosive the

686
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: worst offense in football is and then he'll say, uh,

687
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: you know Mac Jones if he's going to do it,

688
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: you know, and Mac Jones will be our starting quarterback.

689
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: We've just decided that, you know, what's best for the

690
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: team right now is to identify you know, Mac Jones,

691
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: and and he's healthy enough, and we're gonna go forward

692
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: with Mac Jones. And then there'll be eight questions about

693
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 1: that decision, right, and he'll say, I think I made

694
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: my I just told you, I just told you my

695
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 1: opening statement, and he'll fall back on such the right

696
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: thing to do. It's it's so there was thing to do.

697
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: It's great. I think I could be on that Good

698
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: Morning Football show and do the role playing thing with

699
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: my whiteboard like it is. Yeah, and listen, I think

700
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: it's just as right if he does it with Bailey's Appea,

701
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: but make a commitment, right, yeah, Like, it doesn't have

702
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: to be the guy that I think it should be.

703
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: It's my point. I'm not trying to like finger wag

704
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: Bill and tell you I know more than you. If

705
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: it's bailey'sz appy, I'd feel exactly the same way. That

706
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: actually is what's in the best interest of the team. Yeah,

707
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: I think Mac Jones is the better option, but if

708
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: he doesn't, I will defer to him. Yeah, I just

709
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: think what's in the best interest of the team is

710
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: exactly what Evan's talking about. That there was I used

711
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: the word you know, I felt like I said, I

712
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: wasn't in the locker room with you, Mike when we

713
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: were doing our all access, but I said, I was

714
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: reading all the quotes and they just seemed like they

715
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: were shook. Yeah, like they they they did know that

716
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: was coming. And that's not a good situation to be in.

717
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: And I think that too. As much as you can

718
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 1: say like, oh, like we don't have to create two

719
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: different game plans for offense, like one for Mac one

720
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 1: for Bailey, yes you do, and so you're creating extra

721
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: work for the guys to prepare for. Well, it's it's

722
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: like you're probably different plays, but you're not necessarily using

723
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 1: you know, like that that one because I think those

724
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: two guys are so similar. Yeah, but like Evan, really

725
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: before you came on to matter, Evan like really talked

726
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: about a lot of the very specific things that were different.

727
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: But it's plays that we've seen them them use, and

728
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,839
Speaker 1: I just think it's stuff that Zappy does feels more

729
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: comfortable with and stuff that Mac feels more comfortable with.

730
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: And I think that you would would would change accordingly.

731
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: But like the whole Mac Zappy thing, like if you

732
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: want to go like that, if there are guys in

733
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: that locker room that prefer one of the other, Like

734
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: if you're a tight end, who you got right, Like

735
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: one guy barely throws us the ball and the other

736
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: guy got us involved in the two or three games

737
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: that he played, you know, So like you don't have

738
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: to be a bad teammate to say I think we

739
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: should go with this guy. Also, I feel like I

740
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: was thinking about this yesterday. If you're dappy, like you

741
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: can't even be happy that you got in, you know,

742
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: some NFL games this season that you didn't even expect

743
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: to be in at all, because you're like, I don't

744
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: want my other teammate in my room to be upset

745
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 1: that I'm happy that I'm getting playing. Right, it's a

746
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: weird dynamic that was on that sideline the other night,

747
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: and I was joking with I don't know if I

748
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: joked with you about this yesterday. Fred. I'm not trying

749
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 1: to compare high school, you know, yeah, like it's it's nothing, Okay.

750
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: I've been on the sideline when I've had teammates that

751
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: weren't necessarily on board with winning because they felt like

752
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: they were being screwed. Yeah, And it's a really dark

753
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: place to be in. Like when you're out there and

754
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: these are all your friends, Like you play high school football.

755
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: You grew up with these kids, right, You go to

756
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: all these practices and then you think you're supposed to

757
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: be playing, and at the last minute, someone else goes

758
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: into play. It's human nature. You're sitting there, You're like,

759
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: wouldn't be the worst thing if this kid goes out

760
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: and fumbles because he's playing with the spot that I

761
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: think I should be playing, right And then and that's

762
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: a really, really dak dark place to be in. And

763
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,399
Speaker 1: if you were Mac Jones on the sideline the other night,

764
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: and then Zappy goes in. He throws this awful ball

765
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 1: to Jacoby Myers, who I can't believe he didn't crack

766
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: three ribs trying to catch that. And you're like, your

767
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: guys think that Myers went the wrong way. They think

768
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: it was a good pass at Myers looked off. Who

769
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure. They also blamed the fumble on Myers, which

770
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 1: the ball never go anywhere, guys said it. I told

771
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: you I disagree with those guys more than anybody. It's like,

772
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: it's like when someone asked, I think this was last week,

773
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: like you know, are you feeling have you heard about

774
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: the Zappie fever? And Zappy's like no, like he was

775
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: just like because he knows, he can't can know, but

776
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: he pretty still can't even be happy that he's right, No,

777
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: I think you pointed and won a game. He has

778
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,439
Speaker 1: to act like he has to wait till he gets

779
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,839
Speaker 1: home to celebrate, probably with his father. He has can't

780
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: do that in front of any pod. Yeah, he can't

781
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: be happy. Wow. Remember when Zoe was in this position

782
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: and he came in and he'd scored, he'd do the

783
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: six guns and but you know they were a terrible team, right,

784
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 1: but his father was showing up on the late night

785
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: shows as a guest and everything. It was like, and

786
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 1: we should that Zoe was going to be born. Zoe

787
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: was born right then? Yeah, absolutely, Because it's like you

788
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: don't want to cheer in someone's face. I guess, but

789
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: you I don't know. It's tough wa, I took your

790
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: job right, and someone else's misfortune right is a big

791
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: part of your fortune. And that's like, that's lousy. I also,

792
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: I don't worry too much about them preparing to different

793
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: quarterbacks for the offensive players, but the way the defense

794
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: played on Monday Night, Like how much time is Bill

795
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: spending in his work week to get two different quarterbacks ready?

796
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: Because the defense looked arguably more unprepared than the offense

797
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: did for what the Bears were bringing them, And I

798
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: just wonder, you know, he only has so much time

799
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: in a week. Also, so at what point do you

800
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: look at it and say, oh, no, you know he

801
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: they weren't prepared at all for Justin Fields to run

802
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: the football. That that statement, that's the one that resonates.

803
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: That's the statement that we'll remember from that Monday night game.

804
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: That was the game that Bill said going into the

805
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 1: game that they don't have designed runs for Justin Fields.

806
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: And Devin McCardy after the game said how much they

807
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: ran the ball with design runs that we didn't see

808
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: on film? Right, Like I give Mattie Aberflew's credit, Like,

809
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: you know a lot of these teams come in and

810
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,479
Speaker 1: they just like roll it out and they just say, well,

811
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 1: you know, if we weren't, if we're not good enough,

812
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: we're not good enough. No, he changed some of the

813
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: things that they had been doing, and he caught the

814
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: Patriots by surprise. Doesn't happen for they also had a

815
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: mini buy to do it. They played on Thursday night

816
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: that they didn't play again to Monday, and they ran

817
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: him eleven times on design quarterback rounds. It was just

818
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: by far a career high for Justin Fields, but in

819
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: like nine of them, like he had a couple of

820
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,919
Speaker 1: quarterbacks sneaks. Nine of those were like actual, like yeah,

821
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: we're gonna just take the snap and have him run

822
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: around the end. Yeah, and the field designed runs. After

823
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: the game, Field said they had watched Baltimore and they

824
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: started to take things from Week three against the Patriots

825
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 1: that Baltimore did and repeated some of the same players

826
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: that gave the Patriots problems. So you have to give

827
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: the Bears a ton of credit. But I would also say, like,

828
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 1: shouldn't the Patriots have seen that coming? Right? That's my point.

829
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: That's shouldn't you have given the Bears staff a little

830
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: bit of credit that they might be able to pull

831
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: that out? This gets back to did they overlook the Bears?

832
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: And hard for me to believe that Bill would overlook

833
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: any team, but there there's some evidence there. But I

834
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,959
Speaker 1: don't think because they weren't prepared for Justin Fields runs

835
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: they overlooked them like that, that the quarterback. Then you

836
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 1: can make an argument they overlooked Yeah, all right, we're

837
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: gonna take a break. Um. Evan's gonna go down. He's

838
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: gonna go down the press uh um conference with Bill

839
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: when it happens, we're gonna go to it, but we're

840
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: gonna take a break. We come back, more calls and emails,

841
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: and then we'll get into Bill's press conference. Get in

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00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,480
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1052
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: don't know. You'd have to talk to them about it.

1053
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: I couldn't give you a percentage or anything. Just got

1054
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,959
Speaker 1: got better players around them. Its slaying well, teams, playing

1055
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: well right running back all that. It's like a tremendous

1056
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 1: production coming into after six games or whatever it was.

1057
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: I got hurt last week, but I had a big

1058
00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: play in that game, helped win the game. So I

1059
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 1: got a lot of good players. Wilson's played good, but

1060
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: they use everybody. They get the ball to everybody, a

1061
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: lot of receivers. Production at a running back, you know

1062
00:54:55,120 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: Carter an Hall, so you multiple guys aaron the ball,

1063
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: at players catching the ball. Balance offense. How would you

1064
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 1: describe the way they've tried to build around him, specifically

1065
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: last offseason, the way they drafted in, designed players and

1066
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: free agency and just put as many good players as

1067
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: they can. That they did it on offense, defense an

1068
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: I thinking game too. Some of the guys they've had

1069
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: of just you know, they played a lot of players,

1070
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 1: a lot of rookie players last year. They were one

1071
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: of the highest teams in the league in terms of

1072
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: rookie snaps last year. Obviously most all those players are

1073
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: back now they have your experience, and so you have

1074
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: those players moving up and then new players they've added

1075
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 1: the team, a couple of free agent acquisitions. Just continue

1076
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 1: to put together a strong team. Got a good job.

1077
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 1: How much of a problem is playing plays? And a

1078
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: big problem. Explosive, powerful guy, very athletic for a size,

1079
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: it's hard. Then there's a lot of good players up there,

1080
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: so you know, deal with one, you gotta deal with

1081
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,720
Speaker 1: you know, two or three other guys, you know Mosley

1082
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 1: standing behind them. So um. You know, they penetrate, they

1083
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: cause negative plays, they are very disruptive, um, and they

1084
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 1: run well, pursue well. They play sound. You know, they

1085
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: very sound defensively what they do so don't give a

1086
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: lot of big plays. Make you run a lot of

1087
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: plays to get the ball down the field and in

1088
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 1: the end zone, and they usually something usually happens before

1089
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: where you get there. That's generally what they've been able

1090
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: to do. It seems like gardeners off to a very

1091
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 1: good start in the secondary. Whatever are you seeing from him? Yeah,

1092
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: it's not a good job. You know, long guy, Um,

1093
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: you know, very athletic, good pass rush. Quarterbacks aren't stand

1094
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: doct though there. You know, I have a lot of

1095
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 1: time to make decisions. So you know he's been able to, um,

1096
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 1: you know, be aggressive, playgressively on some routes. Good ans,

1097
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: good ball skills. When James all right, I'm glad we

1098
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: went to Bill. I think once again I give credit

1099
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: to the media. They stuck with it. Um. Obviously Bill

1100
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna, you know, make any declarations today. Um, he's

1101
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: They're just gonna see what happens. It's a walkthrough, so

1102
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,960
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what they're gonna see in order

1103
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 1: to make a determination. I'm pretty sure Bill in his

1104
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: mind knows what he's gonna do, and maybe his thinking is,

1105
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell the players before I tell you guys.

1106
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you, do you think there's

1107
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: a chance that tomorrow he says it, and they he

1108
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: even said maybe, you know, he deviated from the we'll

1109
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: see what how it goes to say maybe yeah on

1110
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: that one question. Yeah, so maybe you know, if the

1111
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: first group. I'm gonna tell are my players, and then

1112
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: I'll tell you guys, and maybe that'll be tomorrow, so

1113
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean, they're they're like he even said,

1114
00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, today's practice is more of a walkthrough than

1115
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: anything else. It's not like there's going to be any

1116
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: quarterback evaluation today. I would imagine in his head, he's

1117
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: already made up his mind. He knows what he's doing.

1118
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just looking at practices at one thirty,

1119
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: so doesn't give him much time. Um, I don't know,

1120
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 1: but I did. Uh, I'm a little disappointed, a little

1121
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: disappointed that it there's no clarity to it. I do

1122
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,439
Speaker 1: think I agree with you. I think there's a chance

1123
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,919
Speaker 1: that tomorrow, Yeah, there's a little bit. But he doesn't

1124
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: have a press comments tomorrow, right, um, fair point, fair point.

1125
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 1: We won't know till Friday. That's that's availability. So this

1126
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: nonsense continues unless oh no, he is scheduled to talk

1127
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 1: tomorrow at twelve, Oh he is, Okay, that's usually Thursday

1128
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: he doesn't, but maybe because of the short week. Yeah,

1129
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: so he is going to talk tomorrow at twelve, Yeah, okay,

1130
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: all right, so we'll see tomorrow but you know, I think,

1131
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, he was given ample opportunities that I think, Uh,

1132
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:03,080
Speaker 1: the guys and girls that were there, um pressed him, UM,

1133
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 1: came at it from all different angles. Give them credit.

1134
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: UM and UM. You know, we'll just have to wait

1135
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: till tomorrow if if that, but I gotta assume that,

1136
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:21,439
Speaker 1: you know, we'll hear about it tomorrow. So anyway, UM,

1137
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: let's get back to your calls and emails. Here eight

1138
00:59:24,600 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: five five paths five hundred eight ticket hotline web radio

1139
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: at Patriots dot com is the email address, Uh tomorrow

1140
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: and Evan took off to be at the press conference

1141
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: and they might be back before practice, said one thirty.

1142
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 1: So I don't know if maybe Evan will come back, yeah,

1143
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 1: before he goes out, Before he goes out, there's a

1144
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: little time here in between, ye Stacy James making an

1145
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: announcement now letting the media know what where to park

1146
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: or yea, what follows because they are indoors today usually

1147
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: the walkthroughs at tent. That's when I saw they were indoors,

1148
00:59:55,840 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: I assumed to walk through today. Short week up, Let's

1149
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: go to the phones. We'll start with Eric in New Jersey.

1150
01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: Thanks for hanging on, Eric, what's up? I hate Fred, Paul, Paul,

1151
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: I got a personal issue, uh to deal with you?

1152
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,919
Speaker 1: And then a question and a football question here? Okay,

1153
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: you got if that had talked about it the other

1154
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: day in Indiana, you guys were splitting a cookie skill

1155
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: of ice cream, two spoons. If you're gonna be a

1156
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: big guy, you gotta commit. What are you doing? What

1157
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: are we doing? Paul? You were splitting two spoons. That's

1158
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 1: absolutely true. That was one of our our dates. Was

1159
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: that at the Webber Grill. Uh, I want to say

1160
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: it was that like that Champs place. Okay, Um, it

1161
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: was definitely Combine Combine week. But yeah, yeah, that actually

1162
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: that absolutely happens. That is fact I split a dessert

1163
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: with another man. Yeah, we weren't even on a date. Yeah,

1164
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,800
Speaker 1: commit to commit to the commit to the call. But

1165
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: you just get your own next time. But yeah, I

1166
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't kind of just talk on the Mac and the

1167
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: Zappy situation. They we're kind of beating a horse that

1168
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: I was hoping Bill kind of gave some clarity for it.

1169
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: But the but mac, um, I just think he's I

1170
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,760
Speaker 1: just think he's he's just beating down to the ground here. Um.

1171
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,120
Speaker 1: And then I think even too, and it's it's unfair

1172
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: for Zappy. Um, you know, it's a tough spot for him. Obviously,

1173
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: he didn't get any first team reps this training camp.

1174
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: Mac had all last year had the first team, Uh,

1175
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: first team reps all camps. You're kind of putting Zappy

1176
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: in there. And then it's just some of the critiques. Obviously,

1177
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: his height we knew was height when they drafted him. Um,

1178
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: you know, everybody brings up the batted balls this this

1179
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 1: last game, but it wasn't really an issue the first

1180
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: two games obviously, you know, Breeze kind of worked it through.

1181
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: You know, you know it's kind of standing on the

1182
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: top of the balls of his feet and his head spapes.

1183
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 1: But like I said, I have I just want to

1184
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 1: have a guy and just commit to it and whoever

1185
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: it is, you know, just just have a plan, go

1186
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: with it. But you know, I just think, like I said,

1187
01:01:52,840 --> 01:01:55,320
Speaker 1: you guys mentioned earlier, you know, just the turmoil between

1188
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: the teams. Um. You know they cut to the cameras

1189
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: on ESPN when Mac threw that interception and you know

1190
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry came up and you know you obviously was

1191
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: saying something to Zappy obviously you can't hear what you know,

1192
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: know what they're saying, but you know, I feel like

1193
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: this is kind of getting to that two thousand and

1194
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: nine territory, you know, when you know Derek Burgess and

1195
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: you know Sewan Springs. You know, you had those older

1196
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: veterans that came in here in the locker room. You know,

1197
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 1: we were winning the game, losing the game, you know,

1198
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: and I just think Bill might lose the locker room

1199
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: and I'll take it off the line, thank god. All right,

1200
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 1: thanks Eric. Yeah, I think all those things are concerns.

1201
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you they're happening, or they have happened,

1202
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: or they will happen, but they're all concerns I think

1203
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 1: brought up. Yeah, and just a little update here, um,

1204
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: I think as part of what Stacy James just told everybody,

1205
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: Matt Jones will be speaking today at the podium. Oh

1206
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:48,439
Speaker 1: so okay, well that there's an indicator. Well, Matt, Well,

1207
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 1: Billy Zappie spoke on Monday, So not necessarily no, but

1208
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: we are we have turned the page from the game,

1209
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: So I don't know, just something something to think about

1210
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 1: Melvin's and Tennessee. What's Melviney was going on, Hey, hey, uh,

1211
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna like redirect from the quarterback talk. But my

1212
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: biggest thing I feel like defensively is it's funny to me,

1213
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: I think maybe Duce heavy Sad I can't remember, but

1214
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: we have all these big guys, but we still can't

1215
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 1: stop the run. That's just concerning to me. It's, um,

1216
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 1: I don't know we're getting them a break with of

1217
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: course Breecee Hall being out, he's a good back, and

1218
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson's wacky at the quarterback position obvious, So I

1219
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: feel like that, Um, I'm just concerned with every time

1220
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 1: I get confidence, like we just stopped Chubb and stuff

1221
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: like that, they just clearly we're not the same team.

1222
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 1: But whenever I start to really feel confident defensively, we

1223
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: have one of these. So I just I want to

1224
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: see them going there and limit the Jets to what

1225
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 1: they can do because this is this is kind of

1226
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,080
Speaker 1: a most win bounce back with a lot going on.

1227
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: This is the games where like it could really be rare.

1228
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn'tay the rare season. Well, I guess it can

1229
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: be because things are in you know, kind of up

1230
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: and down right now. And Mac Jones we had this

1231
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: last year where you know they were on this big

1232
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: wind streak, number one seed, then you get blown out

1233
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,479
Speaker 1: by the Bill. So it's ups and downs this whole

1234
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 1: since he's been here. So this is one of these times.

1235
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,919
Speaker 1: Who are like, you have to go on the road

1236
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 1: against the Jet. Same. I don't think it's very good.

1237
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: But what they're five and two, so they're doing something.

1238
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 1: I would think, So you have to go into this environment,

1239
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 1: division rival and win this game for I anjuring everything

1240
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: you need it. I think the next two are must wins.

1241
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 1: Paul would say, the next three or must wins. Yeah,

1242
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't lose to the teams that you're

1243
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: behind expect to make the playoffs, and the three teams

1244
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: that they play the next three weeks or all ahead

1245
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, the Jets, the Colts, and the Jets. Yep.

1246
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: These are the teams that you're fighting with for a

1247
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: wild card. Yep, Yep, you gotta beat them. So we

1248
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 1: gotta get it. Yep. You beat Cleveland, like beating Cleveland

1249
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: was an important win for that reason, like you had

1250
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 1: to beat Cleveland. I think you have to beat these

1251
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 1: these three teams, and I mean you could go into

1252
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 1: a whole conversation about the psyche of the team like that,

1253
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: just the mentality and confidence level. I'm not even considering

1254
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: that that's all valid. Like if you lose these games,

1255
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: then you know, what are you left with? You know,

1256
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: to try to prop up um whoever you play at

1257
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 1: quarterback if he loses. Now you got the half the

1258
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,560
Speaker 1: team saying if the other guy played, we would have won, right,

1259
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 1: you know, like you got issues, so you better win.

1260
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: Yeph Williams a Fellam, what's up William Oh he gave up?

1261
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 1: Sorry about that? Patty and agawam? What's up? Patty? Hey? Uh,

1262
01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 1: just a couple of things. I'll I will corroborate. What

1263
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 1: what Maddie Lapan and Maddie Borel On the broadcast, Mac

1264
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 1: did like he dropped an fbomb after Daily threw that

1265
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 1: touchdown pass to Jacobe Myers. My question, you guys have

1266
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,919
Speaker 1: to forgive my ignorance. I don't even know the dude's named,

1267
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 1: the guy that they picked up from Jackstonsville via the trade.

1268
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: But is he any good? Because I don't James, I

1269
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: don't watch any Jack. Yeah, James Robinson is one of those.

1270
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 1: He was an undrafted free agent a couple of years ago,

1271
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:27,120
Speaker 1: he had a thousand yards season. He's been reasonably productive.

1272
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: They drafted Travis e t N who missed all of

1273
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: last year with an injury that he suffered in the summer,

1274
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 1: and they're giving the Jags are giving the number one

1275
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 1: role to him. And this guy was expendable and they

1276
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: got a couple of drafts. Well, they got a conditional

1277
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 1: draft pick for him. Um, is he great? No? Is

1278
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 1: he Breeze Hall? No? But it's a good It's a

1279
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 1: good pickup for the Jets. And I would think as

1280
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: a running back, you you let him practice all week.

1281
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: He should be up to speed as to what he's doing.

1282
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 1: And I'd expect to see him Sunday if he's healthy.

1283
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I know he was dealing

1284
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 1: with some knee injury or something with Jacksonville when he

1285
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: was there, but I would expect to see him. And

1286
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 1: do I think he's, you know, the next Barry Sanders. No,

1287
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 1: he's not. He's not going to replace Breeze Hall. But

1288
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 1: he's a solid running back. Yep. They needed a body, right, Yeah.

1289
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: And then stopping the run, more so than stopping the past,

1290
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: concerns me to sleep with the Jets, and absolutely with

1291
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,320
Speaker 1: the Jets. Yeah, because the Jets don't don't throw the ball,

1292
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 1: but they're like they're a lot like Chicago. They don't.

1293
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,600
Speaker 1: I guarantee you they'll they'll come out throw it, just

1294
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: like Fields. First what two three plays, they threw the

1295
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 1: ball because they know we wanted you know, they know

1296
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna gear up to stop the run. They'll throw

1297
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 1: the ball. You watch, you watch. I don't think that

1298
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 1: that's act Field's first two plays or passes in the game. No,

1299
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 1: Montgomery left tackle four yards, Montgomery left tackle two yards,

1300
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 1: third and four passed to Arnell Mooney. Maybe it was

1301
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 1: the second drive. But they threw more than I thought

1302
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,480
Speaker 1: they would. He did pass on first down on the

1303
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: second driven than Montgomery right guard. Like, No, they came

1304
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 1: out running. He didn't throw that many passes. Well, eventually

1305
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,240
Speaker 1: they didn't have to. No, but I mean he only

1306
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 1: ended up with twenty one pass attempts. That's what That's

1307
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 1: what the Jets will do it. That's what the Jets

1308
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: do during the four game winning streak. They won't throw

1309
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, they got so ahead. I mean they

1310
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: didn't have to at the end. They ran the ball

1311
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 1: exclusively at the end. But they've been down like all

1312
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:29,679
Speaker 1: year and Justin Fields has attempted twenty five passes once.

1313
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: I know he averages nineteen. Was at nineteen a game

1314
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 1: or something like that. Yeah, he was right on his average.

1315
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:42,559
Speaker 1: Thanks Patty. Just to reiterate that. James Robinson his rookie year,

1316
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: he had one thousand and seventy yards and seven touchdowns.

1317
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 1: That number dropped he had about eighty fewer carries. Last

1318
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: year he had one hundred and sixty four carries, seven

1319
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty seven yards and eight touchdowns. This year

1320
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: he's been much less, only eighty one carries, but three

1321
01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 1: hundred and four yards, three touchdowns, four point two per carry,

1322
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: four point five average for his career. So he is

1323
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: a workman like running back who I think will help

1324
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:15,679
Speaker 1: the Jets with Breece hallout ray and Saint Louis writes

1325
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: in listening to Bill interview today, it just seems like

1326
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 1: we are distracted a little. I remember when we got

1327
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 1: Ab and Bill had to get tons of negative questions

1328
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 1: about him. I felt sorry for Bill as it felt

1329
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 1: like he was under fire for what AB did. Now

1330
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 1: it's different. I feel maybe he started this controversy and

1331
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: frankly keeping it going by not putting an end to it.

1332
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 1: What do you all think? We kind of agree with that.

1333
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:40,639
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what we've been talking about. We hope

1334
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: that he'll come out definitively and say this guy's our starter,

1335
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 1: whoever it is. I do agree. I just think that

1336
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: the Tonio Brown is the same thing. If you don't

1337
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 1: want questions about a guy with a checker pass, don't

1338
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: sign a guy with a checker pass. That's true, yep.

1339
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 1: But we're hoping that tomorrow he will in fact come

1340
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 1: out and say, you know, this guy's my starter, whoever

1341
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,640
Speaker 1: it is. We're just looking for something. Yeah, I do

1342
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 1: agree with the premise of the email. I think this

1343
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 1: was largely self induced. David writes in I can't get

1344
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 1: out of my head Jules doing his Bill Belichick impersonation

1345
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 1: every time I watched this team lately. I agree that

1346
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 1: Bailey and Mac have similar skill sets, but you have

1347
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 1: to choose one. I have to admit, though, I've never

1348
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: seen the crowd more electric than it was on Monday

1349
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 1: Night when Zappy came in and allowed Myers to make

1350
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,799
Speaker 1: a great play for a touchdown on a poorly thrown

1351
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: wrong shoulder ball? Does that make Zappy the guy? I'm

1352
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 1: not sure. Not only was the crowd electric, the press

1353
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: box was unprofessionally electric. I made the comment about that yesterday,

1354
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 1: and of course someone had to like send it to

1355
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 1: Aaron Schatz like I was calling him. I just he

1356
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,800
Speaker 1: like literally turned to a guy and was like, why good,

1357
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: look does Zappy was like people just were like they

1358
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 1: lost it. Yeah. It wasn't even that. It was like,

1359
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: you know, anything really bad. It was like genuine, like

1360
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 1: I can't believe this is happening. Right, what are we

1361
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 1: witnessing here? Right? Uh? Here are some scenarios of course,

1362
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,960
Speaker 1: you know, like you say something about healthy and they

1363
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: have to on Twitter. Ya well PW Paul was making

1364
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 1: fun okay yea yeah, like like Aaron Chatz cares what

1365
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 1: Paul is saying. He probably does. Uh. Here are doubt

1366
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 1: he even knows who I am. Here are some scenarios.

1367
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: I want to see what your opinions are on the

1368
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 1: likelihood of each. Highly likely, could go either way or

1369
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 1: not gonna happen mac wins four plus games the rest

1370
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 1: of the year. Highly likely. I say, so, you got

1371
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 1: ten left? All he has to do really good. That's

1372
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 1: a really good number. All he has to do is

1373
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: go four and six. Well, he has to go five

1374
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:50,280
Speaker 1: and five and five. It's a really good number. I'll say,

1375
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: I'll say likely. Okay, Man, I don't feel great about it. Yeah,

1376
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. Mac turns the ball over

1377
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:03,559
Speaker 1: eight plus times the rest of the year. Oh likely, Uh,

1378
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 1: Zappy starts Oh so this is basically asking who you

1379
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:09,120
Speaker 1: think is going to play the balance of the season. Maybe,

1380
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay, Zappy starts five more games this season. Unlikely,

1381
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,759
Speaker 1: The QB for the future isn't on this roster. Likely,

1382
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 1: Bill passes Shula in all time wins by the end

1383
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 1: of next season unlike. Unlikely. And finally Paul agrees with Fred.

1384
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:29,200
Speaker 1: By the end of the show. Likely, we always find

1385
01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:32,040
Speaker 1: common ground by the end. Speaking of common ground, a

1386
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 1: common person's here in Andy Hart. What's up? Andy? I

1387
01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 1: felt like a shot. You just made me laugh out

1388
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 1: loud on the tone of I think it was the

1389
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 1: turnovers for for for Mac the rest of the year,

1390
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 1: Oh god, over something like, well, they have ten games left,

1391
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:47,599
Speaker 1: They're not gonna turn it over eight times in ten games.

1392
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,680
Speaker 1: It just it wasn't the answer. The tone of it.

1393
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 1: Your tone is tremendous. Okay, you're like Bill Belichick, You're

1394
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 1: great with tone. It's a tonal thing. Well, you know,

1395
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,840
Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes. Um, we'll see how what

1396
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 1: goes Bill. Le'll just see how it goes. What are

1397
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 1: we seeing? What's just like the other night? What is

1398
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,640
Speaker 1: the situation? What do you need the whole situation? And

1399
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: then have you noticed the new thing too, the smirk

1400
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: and the thanks at the end of everything? Right, Well, no,

1401
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 1: but thanks at least they I give you guys credit

1402
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,479
Speaker 1: today although I did not hear your voice oh with

1403
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 1: a like jets related questions. No, early on, I asked him,

1404
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:21,160
Speaker 1: what you need to see? We just need to say.

1405
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 1: I didn't recognize your voice. I give you guys. Fred

1406
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 1: said it right away. I give you guys. It would

1407
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 1: have been easy. And I think flashing back ten years

1408
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: or so ago when everything was you know, Super Bowl

1409
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 1: or bust, it would have stopped much much soon. Well,

1410
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 1: he would have stopped it. I don't think he ever

1411
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: put a hard stop, like a hole. I'm done here,

1412
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 1: you a holes stopped to it. Today he kind of

1413
01:13:44,720 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 1: let it go right in a way. And that might

1414
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 1: be because tea very relevant questions. I think you came

1415
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 1: at it, you came at it in different angles. I

1416
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:56,679
Speaker 1: thought I thought, you know, you guys did the best

1417
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 1: job you could. I thought we were close to a

1418
01:13:58,479 --> 01:14:01,200
Speaker 1: tom current Headbut I'm you know, like like he goes,

1419
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: it's a fair question. And it was like and then

1420
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 1: and then he goes, it was a fair answer. He's like,

1421
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 1: really fair answer came with a smirk, like he's like,

1422
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 1: he smirk. He knows what he's doing, you know, And

1423
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,160
Speaker 1: I think he's showing us I know what I'm doing. Well,

1424
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 1: you know, I actually maybe I'm reading way too much

1425
01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,560
Speaker 1: into the thanks and the smirks and all that. He

1426
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 1: he's extending a tiny olive branch, but also doing it

1427
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,720
Speaker 1: in a condescending fashion. Yeah, right, it was my take

1428
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 1: on right, But no, it was fine. I mean, I

1429
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 1: have no idea where we are, Like, I don't feel anymore.

1430
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: My feeling is that he knows what he's gonna do.

1431
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,160
Speaker 1: It's mad he's not gonna tell us before he tells

1432
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 1: his team. It's it's a walkthrough today tomorrow. Well Mac

1433
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,920
Speaker 1: is talking today, right, I was told yea, um so

1434
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means because Bailey talked last

1435
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 1: week and announce that he did. Oh okay, Bailey talked

1436
01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 1: last week, but at that point they had right in practice,

1437
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 1: and then Max was at his locker, right, so like,

1438
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 1: I don't know that you definitively, then they both did

1439
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 1: the production meeting, So like, I don't know all these

1440
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 1: little tea leaves we like to try to read, or

1441
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 1: I don't know that you have. I think it's gonna

1442
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: be Mac on Sunday. I agree with you. I think

1443
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 1: I think it should be Mac on Sunday. Do you

1444
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 1: I think Bills here a Zappi guy, though I've heard

1445
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 1: you on the radio with Fitzy, Um, what do you

1446
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: mean by a zappy guy? Like you think Zappy should

1447
01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 1: be playing? No, I think Mac is better than I

1448
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 1: think that. I don't think that. I don't think the

1449
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:26,960
Speaker 1: delta between Mac and Zappy is as as far as

1450
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 1: you'd like it to be. I don't think this. I

1451
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 1: don't think there's much of a difference. Um. You know,

1452
01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 1: but God forbid, he threw a pick because his ball

1453
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 1: hit the wire. It didn't hit I'm not sure it

1454
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 1: did or it didn't. It was still a terrible throw

1455
01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 1: in a terrible decision. You know why it hit the

1456
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 1: wire because the guy running the thing was like, no

1457
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 1: idiot quarterback would throw at this high and then he

1458
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 1: threw this like big because because he threw a punt,

1459
01:15:47,800 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 1: he did and listen, ESPN put a statement out to

1460
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 1: say it didn't. Now I'm not just like the league

1461
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: said that they didn't ask for an autograph. Do we

1462
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,599
Speaker 1: believe these now? Correct? Oh, officer, I wasn't speeding. Okay,

1463
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 1: go about your business. Talk about a tonality number for

1464
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 1: a golf pro. I feel like I'm I'm gonna tell

1465
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 1: you Morrel's gonna be my like agent or something. I'm

1466
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 1: giggling back there. Like. We had a nice call from

1467
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 1: from Eric a little while ago, Eric from New Jersey,

1468
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: from New Jersey, who said he heard that, did you

1469
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,599
Speaker 1: tell the story about you and I sharing the chocolate

1470
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 1: chips Sunday? Yes? He just called Paula. He called me,

1471
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 1: You called my man. I didn't tell it all in

1472
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 1: like I would fifteen years ago. You can't say not.

1473
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 1: But you shared that dessert with Andy? Did you get

1474
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:38,840
Speaker 1: like what one buy out of it by the time

1475
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 1: he finished it? Correct? Yea, Um, but yeah, what are

1476
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 1: you giggling about, because I'm just thinking I'm all ridiculous.

1477
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 1: It was that we shard that. Yeah, we were you know,

1478
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 1: we were ahead of our time. We probably also had

1479
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:54,719
Speaker 1: you know, ten beers each in us and maybe didn't

1480
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:56,360
Speaker 1: quite feel like we could put the whole thing down.

1481
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: I don't know how you ended up in the same

1482
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 1: hotel room. Oh this is this my key? Oh sorry,

1483
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 1: that's not a pillow. The ma ma the Mac and

1484
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 1: Zappy thing. Like, I think we can all sort of

1485
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 1: have an opinion as to who we think is better,

1486
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 1: and I agree with you. I think Mac Jones is better.

1487
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a huge gap, but I think

1488
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 1: it's kind of inarguable that Zappy has played better this

1489
01:17:23,800 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 1: year than Mac Jones has. Yeah, until the wheel started

1490
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 1: to fall off a little bit, diminishing returns, I thought, oh,

1491
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 1: I this is like, you know, I don't need, you know,

1492
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 1: to see like twenty eight games, like I can see

1493
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 1: a skill set well. But I would also like the

1494
01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 1: difference between Mac and Zappy. Mac is not at his

1495
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 1: best right now. Mac is a broken quarterback in my opinion,

1496
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:46,000
Speaker 1: totally broken. He lost. I don't know how you get

1497
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 1: it back that's on Bill, I said last night on

1498
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 1: TV Tuesday nights usually whatever, Um what station NBC Sports

1499
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:57,680
Speaker 1: Boston at a regular slot. Now, wow, uh look at you.

1500
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 1: Don't you think you still don't share? Had know enough

1501
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 1: times that Andy is now getting the scraps. Yeah, no,

1502
01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 1: I think I got Cherubin is an advocate for me.

1503
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 1: I think he gets me in. Um, but don't you think, well,

1504
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm mad at him. Do you ever get on the list? Oh? Yeah,

1505
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 1: the black Man always gives me you're not on the list,

1506
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 1: Like I'm going to an F and club you're not

1507
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 1: And he crosses his arms and they are rather intimidating

1508
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: when you go in. But I'm like, he's like a bouncer. Yes,

1509
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 1: you can't get you can't get in. If you're not

1510
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 1: on the list, you don't get in. Wow. I've actually

1511
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,640
Speaker 1: been told if you as an employee, let somebody else in.

1512
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 1: It's like monsters inc. Like the they freak the f

1513
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: out like, um, one of them let Felger in. Felger

1514
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,600
Speaker 1: arrived for his ten o'clock show at typical Felger like

1515
01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:43,600
Speaker 1: nine to fifty six, and they just buzzed him in

1516
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 1: and let him in. They all got in trouble, screamed

1517
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:48,560
Speaker 1: at their like we get a live TV show. He's

1518
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 1: the name on the TV show. We need him. But anyway,

1519
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 1: different topic, different day. I think Bill needs to go

1520
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 1: Cam Newton on Mac Jones. Remember the ridiculous build up

1521
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 1: Bill gave Cam Newton, Like there's leaders and then there's

1522
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 1: Cam Newton and nobody works. I think he like, you

1523
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,719
Speaker 1: have broken this puddle of good that is Mac Jones

1524
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 1: interceptions coaching, the whole damn thing. You need to find

1525
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 1: a way to fix it and build him up. And

1526
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 1: that's on you, coach. Maybe it's like the Marines, right, Matt.

1527
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 1: You build them down, you break them down, and you

1528
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:16,839
Speaker 1: build them back up. Yeah, when do we start the robots?

1529
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 1: What that you got to have your own robots? Robots

1530
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:23,639
Speaker 1: and the Marines. Now, well you know what he's saying, um,

1531
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 1: but like, when do we start building him up? When

1532
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,160
Speaker 1: do we start building him up? Has because it doesn't

1533
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 1: feel like that because when Mac rolled his eyes and

1534
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 1: shook his head when Bill said you're out, he doesn't

1535
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:36,719
Speaker 1: start too huh. Yeah, it didn't. The whole world seod.

1536
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 1: I mean I was at thinking it was a good

1537
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 1: job with ESPN and the yeah, but I've seen it

1538
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,519
Speaker 1: everywhere since people are using it as they should. And

1539
01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 1: then what I did miss is apparently when he tells Agil,

1540
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 1: I'm out, that's interesting as well. I missed that part.

1541
01:19:48,800 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 1: I need to see that part again. Oh I didn't.

1542
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 1: He tells Nelson Agilar, I'm out, and there's like a

1543
01:19:52,439 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 1: weird exchange and body language there. But when when Bill

1544
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 1: tells him he's out, he rolls his eyes and shakes

1545
01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:00,719
Speaker 1: his head as he should. Well he not sure he should.

1546
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 1: But you're you're confusing. You should be pissed that he

1547
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 1: was here. You're confusing being pissed with disrespecting the coach.

1548
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:09,639
Speaker 1: You're walking away and showing everybody like And I also,

1549
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 1: it's it's the year twenty twenty two. He has to

1550
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:15,679
Speaker 1: know that's on camera, right, Everything you do is on display.

1551
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 1: There's also evidence that after the touchdown to Myers that

1552
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:24,360
Speaker 1: he was seeing uh sort of not looking exceptionally happy

1553
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:27,400
Speaker 1: about it, and then he came out and greeted him,

1554
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,719
Speaker 1: so that it was a second touchdown. I believe. Oh, Okay,

1555
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 1: it wasn't a good throw to Myers, No, it was terrible,

1556
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:34,960
Speaker 1: But anyway, West Welcome. I could have done that, they

1557
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: would another one another. I do it, Andy, I do

1558
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 1: feel I do feel like thing is I'm on west

1559
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 1: side on that. I do feel like Mac Jones is

1560
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 1: the guy. But at the same time, I think that

1561
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 1: the bigger problem is you might not have the guy

1562
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 1: that you think. You absolutely don't that you had, So

1563
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,519
Speaker 1: that to me is the concern moving forward. Yeah, this

1564
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 1: whole season started with them trying to figure out if

1565
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:02,760
Speaker 1: they were like taking it to the next level, like

1566
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 1: I keep saying, closing the gap with the Bills. So far,

1567
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 1: again we're stuck. We do this a lot with the Jets,

1568
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 1: but Paul, you know, we do this. We get in

1569
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,800
Speaker 1: training camp, it's a big thing. Three days turn into

1570
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:17,599
Speaker 1: like three weeks, Like we feel like that guy's awesome,

1571
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 1: he's so good, pencil him in for this, and three

1572
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 1: weeks later you're like, who is that guy? He's not

1573
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 1: even part of the rotate? Like we get and I think,

1574
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 1: to very reaction, you are, You're one hundred percent right now.

1575
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 1: I'm not the only one. I'm just the only one

1576
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 1: that would be willing to admit it. But they sack

1577
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:33,720
Speaker 1: somebody in a preseason game in Tampa. We're gonna have

1578
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 1: the best defense ever, Andre Carter, you'd Males Defensive Player

1579
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 1: of the Year. Um, but uh yeah, I do need

1580
01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 1: to go, but real quickly, I'll wrap this up. I

1581
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:48,759
Speaker 1: gotta forget a hit over there. Um all right, anyway,

1582
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 1: the guy, Oh, we're only like six games even, Bill saying,

1583
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:54,559
Speaker 1: I'm not going to evaluate a guy mid season when

1584
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:57,519
Speaker 1: the guy's missed three games like Mac is in. If

1585
01:21:57,560 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 1: he has the career I think he's gonna have no

1586
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 1: matter what, He's played even league for ten years, somehow,

1587
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 1: some way, If Brian Hoyer can play for a decade,

1588
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 1: Mac Jones played for a decade, absolutely so this is

1589
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:09,080
Speaker 1: like a teeny little blip on the radar of his career.

1590
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 1: And we may be in three years, saying I can't

1591
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 1: believe we doubted him when he had that little slump

1592
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,360
Speaker 1: in early twenty twenty two. Enough ten seconds? Yes, I know,

1593
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:19,920
Speaker 1: does Bill name the starter tomorrow? Somehow, some way we

1594
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,640
Speaker 1: know that Mack is the starter? Yes, I announce it.

1595
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 1: I don't that feels weird. I don't know how it

1596
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 1: gets to us, which mouthpiece he used it? You know,

1597
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 1: we we went out to practice yesterday, you know we

1598
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 1: you know, everything looks good. In. Max's gonna be the starter.

1599
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:34,719
Speaker 1: I feel like that something like that is coming something.

1600
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 1: I think you can announce it like that. Yeah, all right,

1601
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,640
Speaker 1: and he's got to go. Thanks for stopping in. We

1602
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: really enjoy these little U drive buys. It's good chin wags. Yeah,

1603
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,600
Speaker 1: Hardy likes to call them. Remember when Felger used to

1604
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 1: do that is a legend, epic. Yeah. So the only

1605
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 1: thing that could get me to keep my mouth shut

1606
01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 1: is just watching you and Felger go at it. He

1607
01:22:55,200 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 1: would start screaming at me, call me a liar both. Yeah. Um,

1608
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 1: all right, five five past five hundred is the a

1609
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 1: sticket hut line web radio at Patriots dot com is

1610
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:07,160
Speaker 1: the email address. Let's go to William and Phillim was

1611
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 1: back on the line. What's up William? Hey Fred? How

1612
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:21,320
Speaker 1: are you doing good? Where do I get? Damn um? What?

1613
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 1: Max should be the starter? I'll start there, and I'm

1614
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:29,960
Speaker 1: gonna give praises to uh Matthew Juno straight straight. He

1615
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 1: did the best that he could, though. I just wish

1616
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 1: they'd get him some help too on the other side,

1617
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 1: or or a lineback or somebody something, because he's gonna

1618
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:40,640
Speaker 1: get I think he's going to just burn out at

1619
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 1: some point shoot on. Yeah, well I think I think

1620
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 1: that's why they're trying to cut back on his workload

1621
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 1: a little bit. But you notice he's not He doesn't

1622
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 1: have the same amount of places at this point in

1623
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 1: the year that he did last year. So you know,

1624
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 1: like what Paul said, he's down, he snaps are down

1625
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:00,559
Speaker 1: a little bit from last year one. He's out there,

1626
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 1: he's full, he's full. Yeah, I think he was a

1627
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 1: problem last night Monday night against the run like everybody else.

1628
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:09,560
Speaker 1: I'm not blaming him. I just think he was not

1629
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 1: part of the solution, right and and also like what

1630
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,280
Speaker 1: is going on almost like three four years? It is

1631
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 1: they can't they can't stop the run, miscanceling, It's just

1632
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:26,719
Speaker 1: it's Yeah, I think I think you know the same

1633
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 1: thing every time and builds behind all this, you know, like,

1634
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you have not fixed this problem with over

1635
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 1: since what twenty nineteen? Yeah, you can't stop the run? Right,

1636
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 1: Why haven't you got a detectlcy what in Jordan days?

1637
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 1: We could be nice right about now? This is what

1638
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:42,320
Speaker 1: this is the stuff that we all talked about, rap

1639
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 1: wee fans, rapids patriots on filter itself though it's I mean,

1640
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 1: when are when you are you gonna get it right?

1641
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:52,560
Speaker 1: You got to stop the run. I mean, like it

1642
01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 1: was justin fields. It's the Chicago Bears. How come you

1643
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 1: can stop the mayings and get and you can blow

1644
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 1: them out, or you can stop cleaning to something degree

1645
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:02,639
Speaker 1: and y'all and y'all win that game, but you can't

1646
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 1: beat the Bears. Do you think Tom Brady will go

1647
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 1: for that ship? Easy? Yeah, Listen. It was a bad

1648
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 1: It was a bad loss. It was a bad loss, um,

1649
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:17,000
Speaker 1: you know. And I think you're right to talk about

1650
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:20,640
Speaker 1: the defense. Um. You know, I know the quarterback thing

1651
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 1: is the main story, and it is, But more troubling

1652
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 1: was the play of the entire the entire team the

1653
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:29,720
Speaker 1: other day. I thought defensively they were terrible. I thought

1654
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 1: special teams were terrible. Um, So they have to go

1655
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,720
Speaker 1: back to the to the basics. I do think that

1656
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 1: they they they missed a lot of tackles, they got pushed,

1657
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:43,240
Speaker 1: they got pushed around. The other day. I thought David

1658
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 1: Montgomery got a lot of his yards after contact, and

1659
01:25:46,439 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 1: that can't happen. I'd expect a better performance against the Jets.

1660
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:51,639
Speaker 1: So we're going to try to play in a similar way. YEA,

1661
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 1: thanks William, appreciate the call. Eldred's in North Carolina. Hey Eldred, Hey,

1662
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 1: Hey those aw y'all doing good? Okay, got a question,

1663
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: fake couple of a couple of guys who was talking.

1664
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 1: Do you think, you know, y'all wonder why they didn't

1665
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,600
Speaker 1: playing the young guys as much, even though you know

1666
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 1: you got Colin back and you think Bill chase him

1667
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:19,160
Speaker 1: up from mortality, that he won't that wind bad as

1668
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 1: one or what. But he's but he's you know, I

1669
01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't think the young guys sat

1670
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: out the other day. I mean was the inactive Yeah,

1671
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 1: but like Anthony Jennings started yea and played and played

1672
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 1: the whole game. Um, they didn't have I don't think

1673
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:39,760
Speaker 1: they had young guys that didn't like Jack Jones played

1674
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:42,439
Speaker 1: a big role. Again Jones, Marty Jones doesn't play a

1675
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 1: ton of defense, but he was out there a little

1676
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 1: bit and he actually made a good a good pass

1677
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 1: break up on one of those plays coming across the

1678
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 1: field from the slot. Um. I think some of the

1679
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 1: linebackers they haven't used the faster ones, but I don't

1680
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 1: think it's necessarily about eight like Mack Wilson and ray

1681
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 1: Kua mcmilliner. The young guys, they've got a few years

1682
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 1: in the league. Okay, if you leave the what I'm

1683
01:27:06,439 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 1: listening to that press converse? What what how you play

1684
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,800
Speaker 1: Sadah Dallas about starting new young guys? They got a

1685
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 1: year under the built. Yeah, okay that all of their

1686
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 1: players basically with the exception of C. J. Mosley, like

1687
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 1: their whole defense is like in year four or less.

1688
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 1: Question is why you couldn't do it? You're the greatest

1689
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 1: coach of all time. Death, Yeah, you know, getting the

1690
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:34,560
Speaker 1: right players and just stick with it because you know

1691
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 1: you're in the rebuild. I know everybody wants to playoffs

1692
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 1: to the Bowls. But but don't you think that that

1693
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 1: is what he's doing. Like last year they didn't play

1694
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 1: any young guys. This year, you know you've seen Christian Barmore,

1695
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:49,840
Speaker 1: Jack Jones, Marcus Jones, Like, I think that they're they're

1696
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 1: getting some of these younger players more involved. Right, you

1697
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:56,759
Speaker 1: don't don't you think that? Don't you think that's a process.

1698
01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:58,680
Speaker 1: Now I agree with you. I don't like the move

1699
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 1: to to add Jamie Oallenge to the mix, that that

1700
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 1: does nothing for me. Um, But I mean I think

1701
01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 1: they I think they're starting to play young guys earlier

1702
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 1: in their careers. Mcgron and Perkins hurt. Mcgron's on the

1703
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:18,240
Speaker 1: practice squad. Perkins is on IR okay, but Perkins can't play. Yeah,

1704
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 1: well I just won. Well have y'all have a go

1705
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 1: all right? Thank you? I mean, I just feel like

1706
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 1: that they have. I mean, I called for this all

1707
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 1: last year. I remember arguing with you about it. I

1708
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:31,800
Speaker 1: think that they've done it a little bit. I don't

1709
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 1: That's not a huge complaint for me this year. I

1710
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 1: think the young guys have gotten more opportunities. Now with

1711
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 1: that comes in consistency. That's why they like I don't

1712
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 1: believe in the Jets, because I don't think you could

1713
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 1: be that young and and and win getting you know,

1714
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 1: I give them a lot of credit. They're five and two,

1715
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 1: they've won four in a row. I just think that

1716
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:53,760
Speaker 1: they easily could have lost any of these games. And

1717
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:56,800
Speaker 1: I think they've had some really good fortune along the way.

1718
01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:00,679
Speaker 1: They missed Russell Wilson last week, they missed twa against Miami.

1719
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 1: They get two touchdowns in the last minute of the

1720
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 1: game against Cleveland, like this, some good fortune involved in

1721
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:09,680
Speaker 1: their in their five and two records all ends next week.

1722
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:11,640
Speaker 1: I met Fred, I gotta be honest with you. I

1723
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:13,120
Speaker 1: don't want I'm not gonna take my hand, but I

1724
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 1: think you're right. Like I just I don't think that

1725
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 1: you can win a lot of games the way that

1726
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 1: they've tried to win them. And I give them credit.

1727
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 1: I think they're going in the right direction and if

1728
01:29:23,680 --> 01:29:27,680
Speaker 1: Sala knows what he's doing, I think they can be good. Yeah. Like,

1729
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 1: I think that they have the pieces in place to

1730
01:29:30,360 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 1: build together and then you know, you get three four

1731
01:29:33,400 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 1: years in with that group, group corps talent assuming like

1732
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 1: Garrett Garrett Wilson has been their best receiver. Jamaine Johnson

1733
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 1: has been He was out of the lineup last week injured,

1734
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 1: but he's been reasonably productive. Sauce Gardner has been one

1735
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:49,640
Speaker 1: of the best rookies in football period. Rookie of the

1736
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:52,600
Speaker 1: Year candidate. Ye, Like, when you start doing things like that.

1737
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:55,560
Speaker 1: Breece Hall was a second round pick and he was

1738
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 1: whiting it up. He was a candidate too, you know,

1739
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 1: So when you start doing that, when if you can

1740
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 1: get to like year three with a young core that

1741
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:07,639
Speaker 1: now has thirty five forty NFL games under their belt.

1742
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 1: Now you should be okay. Yeah, so I think they're

1743
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:12,040
Speaker 1: going in the right direction. I just think that they're

1744
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 1: not that good right now. Same with the Giants. Right there,

1745
01:30:16,640 --> 01:30:19,720
Speaker 1: they're getting some good fortune. David and Bethelehem writes, and

1746
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 1: I was willing to cut Patricius some slack, but I

1747
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:25,439
Speaker 1: see a conflict between theory and practice for which he

1748
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 1: is responsible. Who has responsibility for coaching the ol, Who

1749
01:30:30,120 --> 01:30:34,680
Speaker 1: has responsibility for integrating the new offensive scheme scheme, who

1750
01:30:34,840 --> 01:30:37,960
Speaker 1: makes the play calls, who designs the plays. While I

1751
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:40,439
Speaker 1: agree that Mac hasn't been as good as last year,

1752
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:44,000
Speaker 1: much blame goes to Matty p In last point, Mac

1753
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 1: was blindsided in Game one when Brown whiffed ka sing

1754
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 1: a back injury. I don't know what that means causing Okay,

1755
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 1: he could he could have a lingering problem which wouldn't

1756
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 1: hit the injury list, and Zappi is just too short

1757
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 1: the fixes. I think that there's some validity to his

1758
01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 1: Mac Jones thing. Again, I know what reeks of excuse making.

1759
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:12,599
Speaker 1: I agree, but I think there's a chance that he's

1760
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 1: been dealing with stuff from that hit, and he says

1761
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:19,080
Speaker 1: the fixes. Let Mack pick the first drive plays and

1762
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:22,320
Speaker 1: if they work, problem solved. Well I'm not sure about that,

1763
01:31:22,479 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 1: but well, just so you know, Mac picked the first

1764
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:26,360
Speaker 1: drive play last week because he changed the play at

1765
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 1: the linerscrap he did. Yeah, fair enough. I'm just not

1766
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 1: a big I'm not big into the like the sequence

1767
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 1: of plays that whatever. Like I don't think it's out

1768
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:39,639
Speaker 1: of the realm. Like, I don't think it's a crazy

1769
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:43,479
Speaker 1: notion to come out and do eleven personnel on first

1770
01:31:43,520 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 1: and ten from the twenty three, Like, I don't think

1771
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 1: that that's like this they're setting him up to fail

1772
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 1: kind of a plan, right, Like I just the play

1773
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:55,000
Speaker 1: calls for one guy to the other guy. Like, I'm sorry,

1774
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 1: that just bores me. Bell and Boseman writes in there

1775
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 1: are a couple of things bothering me about the quarterback discussion.

1776
01:32:01,960 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 1: First is the comparisons to Brady and Bledsoe. Fred has

1777
01:32:05,160 --> 01:32:07,320
Speaker 1: said that Bill should just tell us or at least

1778
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 1: the team, who the quarterback is so they can rally

1779
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:13,360
Speaker 1: around that guy. But Mac hasn't done anything to deserve

1780
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:15,680
Speaker 1: that at this point. He had a solid but not

1781
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 1: great rookie season, and it looks like he's regressed. At best,

1782
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 1: he stayed the same. If Zappi is pushing for the

1783
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 1: starting job, that's great. They're supposed to be competition. Whether

1784
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:28,760
Speaker 1: or not Mac is the guy is hardly obvious at

1785
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 1: this point. Second, I'm concerned to stop after one. Sure,

1786
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 1: I want to defend you, all right. I don't think

1787
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 1: you said he needs it needs to be mac Jones. No,

1788
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:38,760
Speaker 1: I said, just pick one, just pick a guy. And

1789
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:41,240
Speaker 1: I also don't think you ever said it needs to

1790
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:43,800
Speaker 1: be permanent. But mate, so if you if you pick

1791
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:46,400
Speaker 1: a start right right and Mac Jones, and let's just

1792
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:48,760
Speaker 1: say you pick mac Jones and he goes out and

1793
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:51,320
Speaker 1: you know, throws for one hundred and seventy eight yards

1794
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:55,760
Speaker 1: and three picks on Sunday, you don't have to keep

1795
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:57,519
Speaker 1: playing him every week. You always have the right to

1796
01:32:57,640 --> 01:33:01,200
Speaker 1: change your mind. I agree that he hasn't done anything

1797
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:04,599
Speaker 1: to earn the Brady treatment. I agree with that. Yeah,

1798
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 1: and then if that happens, then on. But I think

1799
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 1: to you a point, I think the team would be

1800
01:33:08,960 --> 01:33:11,280
Speaker 1: better served to have the identity of the guy, like

1801
01:33:12,439 --> 01:33:15,680
Speaker 1: show confidence, this is what we're doing moving forward, right,

1802
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:17,400
Speaker 1: And I would say to give him at least a

1803
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:19,679
Speaker 1: couple of games if he doesn't, If he doesn't improve

1804
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 1: and he keeps giving the ball away, yeah, you gotta

1805
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 1: make a chain. You gotta do that. Second, I'm concerned

1806
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:28,280
Speaker 1: that Paul is experiencing some cognitive dissonance regarding Bill. He

1807
01:33:28,439 --> 01:33:30,600
Speaker 1: was very dismissive of the caller who brought up his

1808
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:33,680
Speaker 1: record without Brady. Oh, I am not dismissive of that.

1809
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:35,679
Speaker 1: I just saying we knew what he was talking about,

1810
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 1: that he was going on and on. I agree that

1811
01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:39,920
Speaker 1: it was pretty ridiculous to point to that a few

1812
01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:42,400
Speaker 1: years ago, right after Brady left, But there is a

1813
01:33:42,520 --> 01:33:46,519
Speaker 1: lot more evidence now supporting brady side. How long are

1814
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:48,360
Speaker 1: we going to continue to assert that Bill is the

1815
01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 1: greatest and not wonder if he isn't a big part

1816
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 1: of the problem. Yeah, at like one fifteen am, when

1817
01:33:54,439 --> 01:33:57,200
Speaker 1: the guy is going chapter in verse like in ninety

1818
01:33:57,240 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 1: one he went and in ninety four and I'll cut

1819
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:02,360
Speaker 1: him some slide five because they were moving, like everybody

1820
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:04,800
Speaker 1: knows that they're rough. I think they're eight game I

1821
01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:08,400
Speaker 1: think the number is eight right now, but they're roughly

1822
01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:11,439
Speaker 1: ten games under five hundred in a large sample size

1823
01:34:11,560 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 1: without Brady everybody knows that. Like, that's like, I'm not

1824
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 1: dismissing the fact I just I knew what the guy

1825
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:21,560
Speaker 1: was saying and was trying to move it along a

1826
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:26,400
Speaker 1: little bit. Ah, let's see so many emails, and yes,

1827
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 1: we get I personally get a little cranky on Overnight's.

1828
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:32,720
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, shows, I get tired. You just want to

1829
01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 1: get going. I just found like yesterday I texted Beth

1830
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 1: at like ten thirty. I was like Danny Glover and uh,

1831
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:45,080
Speaker 1: lethal weapon. Yeah, I'm just getting too old for this bleep.

1832
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:49,960
Speaker 1: Like I was exhausted yesterday. Yeah, And I used to

1833
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 1: feel like that. No, it's tough. I think I was

1834
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:54,679
Speaker 1: asleep at about eight forty five. Gets tougher and tougher

1835
01:34:54,760 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 1: to recover Mike and Binghamton, New York. I want to

1836
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 1: take a second to appreciate something think Fred said last

1837
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:04,840
Speaker 1: week about evaluating both Mac and Zappy objectively. As a

1838
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 1: fan who has no knowledge of the x's and oh's,

1839
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 1: I appreciate the fact that this show makes a dedication

1840
01:35:10,439 --> 01:35:13,519
Speaker 1: to objective criticism, even sometimes to the ire of the

1841
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:17,000
Speaker 1: fan base. Look at you, Paul, just kidding When that's

1842
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 1: when there are other shows that may not be so

1843
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:22,280
Speaker 1: objective to get viewers. I think that is a strong

1844
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 1: characteristic of you guys in writing this Tuesday night, I'm

1845
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 1: not so sure if there will be any news on

1846
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:31,600
Speaker 1: Wednesday morning. We know that during his EI, Okay, so

1847
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:34,639
Speaker 1: we know what happened after that. But I appreciate that. Yeah,

1848
01:35:34,680 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 1: I appreciate it too. I would just say that I

1849
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 1: don't think people are critical to get viewers, like, I

1850
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:41,560
Speaker 1: don't think that helps you. Like, if you go on

1851
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:44,360
Speaker 1: to twitter feed, I'll show I mean, I can show

1852
01:35:44,360 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 1: you what happens when you say something critical, like it's

1853
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:50,920
Speaker 1: nasty because the majority of people that are following you

1854
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 1: are fans of the team that that that you, that

1855
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:56,160
Speaker 1: you cover. No, but you they don't want to hear you.

1856
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 1: You get the engagement. No, But what I'm saying is

1857
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 1: it's not the way to to like boost the ratings,

1858
01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 1: to say I don't believe this, but I'm gonna say

1859
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 1: Mac Jones stinks. Well, did you have you talked to

1860
01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 1: Adam Jones. That's not the way. That's not the way

1861
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:14,640
Speaker 1: it works. No, because Adam Jones is entertaining, I know,

1862
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:18,680
Speaker 1: but he's he's funny, he's he's purposely critical. I mean

1863
01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 1: he's basically I think he's perfectly cynical, like purposely perfectly

1864
01:36:23,320 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 1: like he's funny. Yeah, if he just like said everybody

1865
01:36:26,320 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 1: stinks all the time, no one would want to listen

1866
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:32,679
Speaker 1: to that. He's funny about it, Kevin and Burlington for everybody,

1867
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:35,360
Speaker 1: by the way, Kevin and Burlington. I was at the game,

1868
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:38,439
Speaker 1: and I'll admit I was angry with Mac slash bill

1869
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 1: In loudly booed, at least for me. There were a

1870
01:36:41,560 --> 01:36:44,080
Speaker 1: few factors as to why. Firstly, I'm a Mac guy.

1871
01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:46,880
Speaker 1: I love this decision making last season. I was able

1872
01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 1: to look past his physical limitations because of it, watching

1873
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:52,400
Speaker 1: him try to play from behind against the Ravens at

1874
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 1: the end of that game, he was making bad decisions

1875
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:58,880
Speaker 1: and his limitations were glaring. Coming out to start on Monday,

1876
01:36:59,240 --> 01:37:01,760
Speaker 1: they weren't moving the ball and found themselves in a hole,

1877
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:04,479
Speaker 1: and once again we saw bad decisions, Mac throwing a

1878
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 1: pick off his back foot. I also found myself looking

1879
01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:10,600
Speaker 1: at Justin Fields having little trouble moving the ball and

1880
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:13,240
Speaker 1: couldn't help but think back to the twenty twenty one

1881
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:16,240
Speaker 1: draft and the pros and cons of each quarterback we

1882
01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 1: all sold ourselves on Mac for his decision making and

1883
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 1: drank bills kool aid when he didn't move up to

1884
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:25,480
Speaker 1: get fields. All in all, it was definitely a frustrating

1885
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:28,080
Speaker 1: night and Mac heard it. The hope is that he

1886
01:37:28,240 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 1: isn't that emotional to the point where we can't get

1887
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 1: past it. Be a grown up play well, turn this

1888
01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:38,559
Speaker 1: thing around. The fans will come around. Yeah, I mean

1889
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:41,920
Speaker 1: I think I see a lot of points in that.

1890
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:44,559
Speaker 1: I mean, like, to me, what I and I put

1891
01:37:44,640 --> 01:37:46,840
Speaker 1: the crowd on the bad list, and we talked about

1892
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 1: that yesterday. It wasn't because people booed, not like I

1893
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:52,519
Speaker 1: think booing's part of the game. And I actually heard

1894
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 1: Dante Scarnekia this morning on on Wei saying, you know,

1895
01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 1: it's it's it's the NFL, it's big boy football, Like

1896
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:00,240
Speaker 1: you have to be able to deal with that, And

1897
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:03,560
Speaker 1: I agree. I think it was kind of ridiculous that

1898
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:06,040
Speaker 1: before Mac really even took a snap, there was a

1899
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:09,439
Speaker 1: smattering of zappy chance right, Like I would think that

1900
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:12,760
Speaker 1: the fans would at least be excited about the guy

1901
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 1: coming back and hoping that he's ready to go. Now

1902
01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 1: three you know, three three and outs or whatever. Two

1903
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:22,160
Speaker 1: three and outs and a pick if if you're like

1904
01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:26,479
Speaker 1: want to boo, like, well you're booing the performance, right, Like,

1905
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 1: I I don't think there's anything wrong with that, But

1906
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 1: I just thought the Zappy chance were a bad look,

1907
01:38:33,000 --> 01:38:34,760
Speaker 1: did you? I mean if you disagree, like, because I

1908
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 1: know some people you know, kind of snap back at

1909
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:40,960
Speaker 1: me on that and they disagreed. But I just thought

1910
01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:44,680
Speaker 1: before he even really stepped on the field, people were

1911
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:46,960
Speaker 1: telling everybody they didn't like the fact that he was

1912
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:49,639
Speaker 1: on the field. Yeah, well it just showed how fickle

1913
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 1: they are, you know, but they like Zappy better. So now, like,

1914
01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:56,599
Speaker 1: if you want Zappy to play, I don't think that's

1915
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:58,880
Speaker 1: a bad look, but I would hope that those people

1916
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:03,360
Speaker 1: that were screaming Zappy after the second half should want

1917
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:05,720
Speaker 1: Zappi to start this game as well. They shouldn't go

1918
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:07,920
Speaker 1: back on that. Well, what I'm saying is if you

1919
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:10,280
Speaker 1: want Zappy to play because you think Zappi is better,

1920
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 1: that's your opinion. I don't think that's wrong. No, that's fine,

1921
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 1: But you're still want booing the guy who the coach

1922
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 1: chose to play, because why because you want the other guys?

1923
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:25,120
Speaker 1: That's like that to me is kind of silly Bill

1924
01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:28,639
Speaker 1: and DC. I've always been Bill in Bill, I trust guy,

1925
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:30,840
Speaker 1: but I have to question that trust after the way

1926
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:34,559
Speaker 1: he handled Mac Monday night. Mac did everything right this offseason,

1927
01:39:34,640 --> 01:39:36,680
Speaker 1: took a leadership role with the players, got himself in

1928
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:39,599
Speaker 1: great physical shape, then rushed himself back after a pretty

1929
01:39:39,640 --> 01:39:42,160
Speaker 1: bad injury. And what did all that hard work earn

1930
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:45,040
Speaker 1: him from his head coach, virtually nothing? Pulling him after

1931
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:47,280
Speaker 1: a few series was just wrong on the part of Bill.

1932
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:49,640
Speaker 1: Mac deserved the right to try and work off a

1933
01:39:49,720 --> 01:39:52,840
Speaker 1: month's worth of rust Yanking him for the fans newest

1934
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:54,920
Speaker 1: flavor of the Month was a huge blunder for a

1935
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:59,080
Speaker 1: guy with his coaching experience. James White said this morning

1936
01:39:59,160 --> 01:40:01,519
Speaker 1: that the locker room is one hundred percent behind Mac.

1937
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:04,280
Speaker 1: If that's true, then Bill needs to immediately name Mac

1938
01:40:04,360 --> 01:40:06,599
Speaker 1: the starter against the Jets or else we could see

1939
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:11,800
Speaker 1: a real divide between the players and the coaches. All

1940
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:13,720
Speaker 1: due respect to James White, I don't think there's one

1941
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:17,679
Speaker 1: hundred percent in that locker room for anybody right now? Yeah?

1942
01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:22,360
Speaker 1: Do you agree? Um? I think there has to be

1943
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 1: doubt on you. I don't think they know what I

1944
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:26,639
Speaker 1: think there has to be some doubt yeah on something.

1945
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:30,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I think this is a

1946
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:34,040
Speaker 1: huge crossroads game, right Wan and Stratford. I'm team Mac

1947
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:37,920
Speaker 1: until we're certain he can't play. According to Jason lackinfora

1948
01:40:38,439 --> 01:40:42,560
Speaker 1: Mac Jones could could be available for trade by the combine.

1949
01:40:42,680 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 1: That's almost by the combine. I'm sorry I almost barfed

1950
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:48,920
Speaker 1: at this take earlier, but after listening to the past hour, pu,

1951
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:52,720
Speaker 1: I no longer can just discard this possibility. If you

1952
01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:55,519
Speaker 1: want to tell me that Zappy plays the rest of

1953
01:40:55,560 --> 01:40:58,760
Speaker 1: the season and Mac asked for a trade, I think

1954
01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:02,800
Speaker 1: that could be a realistic Do you think, like, let's

1955
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:05,559
Speaker 1: just say for argument's sake, that Zappie starts on Sunday

1956
01:41:06,040 --> 01:41:08,640
Speaker 1: and he plays, okay, and he plays the rest of

1957
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:13,640
Speaker 1: the year and they win, they win enough, okay, you

1958
01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:17,519
Speaker 1: know they win nine games. Yeah, don't you think that

1959
01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:20,840
Speaker 1: Mac Jones would be you know, did you think it

1960
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 1: would be unrealistic to say that mac Jones would would

1961
01:41:24,400 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 1: go to them and say can you can you trade? Oh? No,

1962
01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:28,760
Speaker 1: for him to say that, no, I don't think now,

1963
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:30,519
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you that he will be traded, and

1964
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:33,360
Speaker 1: neither did that report. According to what the guy just said,

1965
01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:36,000
Speaker 1: he said he could be available by the combine next year.

1966
01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 1: Now I thought when I said no way, I thought

1967
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:40,960
Speaker 1: he meant by for the trade deadline this year. Yeah,

1968
01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 1: which is Tuesday. Right, There's no way they're trading him now.

1969
01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 1: Chris wants to know what reporter sounds like mclovin. It's

1970
01:41:48,240 --> 01:41:51,960
Speaker 1: hilarious to think he's in the room asking postgame questions. Yeah,

1971
01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:55,640
Speaker 1: I for once, I am going to show some some maturity,

1972
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:58,360
Speaker 1: and I will not. I honestly don't know, So I

1973
01:41:58,400 --> 01:42:02,560
Speaker 1: don't have to even say I'm not answering because I

1974
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:07,479
Speaker 1: don't know. Let's see, Mike says after reading Evans piece.

1975
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:10,760
Speaker 1: After further review, he noted that the Patriots seemed to

1976
01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 1: run two different offenses with Mac and Zappy. Is there

1977
01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:15,320
Speaker 1: a reason that they can't blend the two together? Is

1978
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 1: it just well that's the whole thing. Yeah, are they

1979
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:20,320
Speaker 1: actually doing? All due respect to Evan, I said it

1980
01:42:20,360 --> 01:42:22,320
Speaker 1: when he was here, I don't believe that that's the case.

1981
01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:24,400
Speaker 1: I believe that they there are times they run different

1982
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 1: plays because I think different quarterbacks have different strengths. Also,

1983
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 1: like that's coaching, you know, like you have to take

1984
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 1: into consideration. Okay, Zappy comes in after three failed drives

1985
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:39,639
Speaker 1: and you're down ten nothing. So maybe if Mac has

1986
01:42:39,640 --> 01:42:41,680
Speaker 1: still been in there, they would have called the same

1987
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:43,880
Speaker 1: plays that they had caused. The first pass. What was

1988
01:42:43,920 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 1: the first pass that Mac Jones threw in the game

1989
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:49,200
Speaker 1: the night? Do you recall? Was it the hunter Henry? No,

1990
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 1: it was a pass on the sideline that he airmailed

1991
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:54,000
Speaker 1: taking on a twelve yard out. Now, the play ended

1992
01:42:54,080 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 1: up getting called back for offsetting penalties, right, but I

1993
01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:00,160
Speaker 1: mean there was nothing like, there was no agree, just

1994
01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:02,960
Speaker 1: bombs away. That's like a drive starting kind of play.

1995
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:07,479
Speaker 1: A twelve yard out. He overthrew them by five yards. Yep.

1996
01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:12,000
Speaker 1: It's up to Amras back Jeff and California. During the offseason,

1997
01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:14,000
Speaker 1: Paul made the point and I was with him that

1998
01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:16,800
Speaker 1: no matter what happened this season, the Patricia and Judge

1999
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:19,320
Speaker 1: would get the blame for any struggles the offense had.

2000
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:21,920
Speaker 1: Almost halfway through the season, it almost seems like a

2001
01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:25,560
Speaker 1: total opposite. Prior to the Baltimore game, that is the

2002
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:27,559
Speaker 1: way it was trending. But then when the team had

2003
01:43:27,640 --> 01:43:31,040
Speaker 1: some success on offense against Baltimore and then Zappy played

2004
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:34,000
Speaker 1: reasonably well versus the next three opponents. All the blames

2005
01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:37,320
Speaker 1: seemed to shift to Mac for the offensive troubles after

2006
01:43:37,439 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 1: seven games, Who do you guys put more blame on

2007
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 1: for where the team is at currently Patricia, Judge and

2008
01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:46,919
Speaker 1: Bill or Mac Jones in the players. I would disagree

2009
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 1: just slightly. I think his premise is pretty good. I

2010
01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:53,439
Speaker 1: think it's still on like by far and away it's

2011
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:56,040
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia, and I think that you're seeing it now

2012
01:43:56,520 --> 01:44:00,680
Speaker 1: manifested in they're calling different plays like just what they

2013
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:04,000
Speaker 1: the previous emailer just said, like there's different playbooks for

2014
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:07,559
Speaker 1: the different different offenses for the different guys. I think

2015
01:44:07,640 --> 01:44:10,160
Speaker 1: what slightly changed this last game is now instead of

2016
01:44:10,200 --> 01:44:13,400
Speaker 1: people blaming Patricia and Judge for all if that ails

2017
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:16,559
Speaker 1: the offense, what Bill did with the quarterbacks has gotten

2018
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:19,160
Speaker 1: him in the cross heres now, right? Yeah, I think

2019
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:21,960
Speaker 1: when they were playing well with ZAPPI I think that

2020
01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:27,360
Speaker 1: Patricia was rightly by the way getting credit for well

2021
01:44:27,439 --> 01:44:31,440
Speaker 1: shepherding a young kid onto the field and not necessarily

2022
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:33,600
Speaker 1: hanging him out to dry. He was supporting him and

2023
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:37,639
Speaker 1: helping him. But I don't I still think that anything

2024
01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:40,679
Speaker 1: that was going wrong offensively in the first several weeks

2025
01:44:40,840 --> 01:44:43,800
Speaker 1: was on Matt Patricia. Remember when they they had the

2026
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:47,120
Speaker 1: ball in overtime against Green Bay and they ran the ball.

2027
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:49,960
Speaker 1: You know, like Matt Patricia, he's gotta you know, they

2028
01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:52,760
Speaker 1: gotta go for the game, right that, Like, it wasn't

2029
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:57,640
Speaker 1: until this quarterback decision Monday night. Now Bill's sort of

2030
01:44:57,720 --> 01:45:00,200
Speaker 1: drawing the eye or some fans. It's funny how like

2031
01:45:00,920 --> 01:45:03,599
Speaker 1: somebody can hear the same story and read it differently.

2032
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 1: That happens all the time now, Gary in the Jersey

2033
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:11,080
Speaker 1: says Jason Lackanforth has stated that mac Jones will be

2034
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:14,320
Speaker 1: made available for trade prior to next year's combine. Will

2035
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:17,479
Speaker 1: be made Okay, that could be, will be okay? Yeah,

2036
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:19,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think there's a long way to

2037
01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:23,680
Speaker 1: go before to marriage back. First of all, Evan, I

2038
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:26,200
Speaker 1: asked him to walk with me back from practice, and

2039
01:45:26,280 --> 01:45:28,800
Speaker 1: this man decided to get in a car. Oh wow.

2040
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:39,120
Speaker 1: First of all, Alex Parson. First of all, they reported

2041
01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:45,400
Speaker 1: their podcasts. First of all, Stacy said please drive over.

2042
01:45:46,120 --> 01:45:49,559
Speaker 1: So I followed the rules and we drove over. All right,

2043
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:53,120
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I heard. After Bill wrapped up, he said,

2044
01:45:53,640 --> 01:45:56,720
Speaker 1: everybody please drive over to the option. He gave the

2045
01:45:56,840 --> 01:46:02,599
Speaker 1: option with him. Yeah, and I'm like, I'm like, Evan

2046
01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:05,479
Speaker 1: has no camera equipment, no tripod, no camera. He has

2047
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:09,680
Speaker 1: my laptop. I mean, that's the little head. So we've

2048
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:13,720
Speaker 1: been talking about Bill's press conference, and I think you

2049
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:18,559
Speaker 1: guys did a good job, you know, collectively the whole

2050
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:21,280
Speaker 1: room of going at him and not letting up and

2051
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:24,479
Speaker 1: you know, trying to get the information from different angles.

2052
01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:28,599
Speaker 1: And you know, Bill was being Bill and smiling while

2053
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:30,120
Speaker 1: he did it, but he wasn't going to tell you,

2054
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:33,680
Speaker 1: but he did say maybe tomorrow. Um, and I think that,

2055
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:37,639
Speaker 1: you know, my my, my speculation is that he wants

2056
01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:39,760
Speaker 1: to tell the team before he tells anyone else. Yeah,

2057
01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:42,760
Speaker 1: because I'm like, after this walkthrough, you're really going to

2058
01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:44,920
Speaker 1: see something. You're not going to see anything. I think

2059
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:46,680
Speaker 1: in his head he knows what he's gonna do, oh

2060
01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:48,840
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. Um. And I just love how he

2061
01:46:48,960 --> 01:46:51,320
Speaker 1: replaced day by Day with we'll see how it goes.

2062
01:46:51,439 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 1: We'll see how it goes. That's the news saying, no

2063
01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:55,680
Speaker 1: more day by day. That's retired. Now we've entered the

2064
01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:58,200
Speaker 1: we'll see how it goes. Yeah. I do think there's

2065
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:00,240
Speaker 1: obviously something kind of like what you guys are hinting

2066
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:02,519
Speaker 1: at there's something that they need to do first before

2067
01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:05,080
Speaker 1: he can come out and tell everybody right away and

2068
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:06,560
Speaker 1: say maybe he hasn't had a chance to talk to

2069
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:08,640
Speaker 1: the team yet. Yeah, tell the tea. And I think

2070
01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:12,680
Speaker 1: that that's very plausible. Yeah, maybe it's that maybe they

2071
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:16,439
Speaker 1: are doing stuff testing Max's ankle after we leave from

2072
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:19,720
Speaker 1: practice today to even though it's a walkthrough. Maybe it's

2073
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:22,479
Speaker 1: it's a conditioning situation where they're just gonna have him

2074
01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:24,320
Speaker 1: run on it or what. I don't know, whatever the

2075
01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:28,559
Speaker 1: case may be, but there's obviously something transpiring between today

2076
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:32,160
Speaker 1: at his press conference to tomorrow at his second press

2077
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:36,400
Speaker 1: conference of the week that maybe could change. But more importantly,

2078
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:56,479
Speaker 1: somebody is back from practice and all right, so Evan

2079
01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:59,560
Speaker 1: and Tamara are back from practice. In what was the

2080
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:03,080
Speaker 1: mood and what did you see? Well, we were missing

2081
01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:07,160
Speaker 1: three players Kyle Dugger, David Andrews and Christian Barmore not

2082
01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:12,200
Speaker 1: spotted at practice. So Dugger is dealing with an ankle,

2083
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:16,120
Speaker 1: Barmore is a knee and obviously Andrews is a head injury.

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Speaker 1: Just a little bit of what we saw. Obviously, James

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01:48:20,360 --> 01:48:23,840
Speaker 1: Ferrens figures to be the top backup option to replace

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01:48:23,960 --> 01:48:26,839
Speaker 1: David Andrews in the starting lineup. But I also wouldn't

2087
01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:31,120
Speaker 1: roll out Jason Hines being somewhere on that centered depth chart,

2088
01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:34,280
Speaker 1: not ahead of James Farrens necessarily, but I do think

2089
01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:37,400
Speaker 1: that if let's say he's the third string center at

2090
01:48:37,439 --> 01:48:40,240
Speaker 1: the moment, if something were to happen to James Ferns.

2091
01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:44,160
Speaker 1: A Yanni Kaju was back at practice, so his IR

2092
01:48:44,240 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 1: return clock is now ticking, so that signals that they

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01:48:47,200 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 1: might be bringing him back. And we also saw kicker

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01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:54,240
Speaker 1: Tristan Viskayano back at practice, so maybe signing him off

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01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:57,960
Speaker 1: to the practice squad again, adding causing him, oh don't know,

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01:48:59,160 --> 01:49:02,559
Speaker 1: that's a good question. You can be very mean when

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01:49:05,240 --> 01:49:08,160
Speaker 1: he hasn't, let's face it, yeah, you know, going on

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01:49:08,240 --> 01:49:10,360
Speaker 1: two years now. It's a weird thing too, because we

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01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:13,080
Speaker 1: we've asked cam Accord before because let's face it, like

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01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:16,840
Speaker 1: we're punting and kicking as a whole different ball game, right,

2101
01:49:16,920 --> 01:49:18,920
Speaker 1: Like we're not going to sit here and start breaking

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01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:22,240
Speaker 1: down punter mechanics and things like that. So we've tried

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01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:24,760
Speaker 1: to get some insight at a cam Accord And I'm

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01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:27,920
Speaker 1: not trying to say that he's punting well by any means,

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01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:30,920
Speaker 1: but I do think in certain situations there might be

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01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:33,960
Speaker 1: things going on that they're telling him to do where

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01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:37,479
Speaker 1: they're not necessarily going for distance, or they're not necessarily going, um,

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01:49:37,640 --> 01:49:40,599
Speaker 1: you know, for they're trying to kick a specific type

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01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:42,360
Speaker 1: of punt. I don't think they're telling them to hit

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01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 1: a line drive directly too. Now, I think that there's

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01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:49,160
Speaker 1: like there's a couple of things here, and I didn't

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01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:51,479
Speaker 1: count this on the list of things I didn't think

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01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:53,840
Speaker 1: would come up today during the show, but valid point

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01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:58,600
Speaker 1: good punting talk. So I do think that he's struggled

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01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:00,760
Speaker 1: with plus fifty punting. I don't think that he's done

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01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:02,960
Speaker 1: a good job of picking it out of the end

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01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:05,960
Speaker 1: ze people like pinning him inside the ten specific because

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01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:07,400
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people like the stat is

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01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:09,840
Speaker 1: inside the twenty. I think there's a big difference between

2120
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:12,160
Speaker 1: like a fair catch at the seventeen and then one

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01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:13,960
Speaker 1: at like the seven. Yeah, they do both. You know,

2122
01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:17,200
Speaker 1: some places have both inside ten and inside So I

2123
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:20,160
Speaker 1: think that he struggled with touchbacks as opposed to inside

2124
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:23,280
Speaker 1: the ten, and that's you know, that can make a

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01:50:23,439 --> 01:50:26,720
Speaker 1: bad net average, but to you a point Fred I've

2126
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:29,280
Speaker 1: seen too many thirty something yard punts from his own

2127
01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 1: twenty and I would say, like to Evans point that

2128
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:35,880
Speaker 1: sometimes it's directionals. Sometimes they're going, you know, keeping it away.

2129
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:41,240
Speaker 1: They're given up like chunky returns, like multiple times m

2130
01:50:42,280 --> 01:50:45,200
Speaker 1: DuVernay had the one in Baltimore's Duverna had a forty

2131
01:50:45,240 --> 01:50:48,280
Speaker 1: something yard return the guy like the other night, Pettis

2132
01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:51,720
Speaker 1: was clearly like compromised with a hamstring problem that he

2133
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:54,559
Speaker 1: left early in the first half and then came back.

2134
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:56,559
Speaker 1: He had a couple of plays in the open field

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01:50:56,600 --> 01:50:58,600
Speaker 1: that I think we're touchdowns if he was, if he

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01:50:58,720 --> 01:51:00,639
Speaker 1: was healthy, and that was one of them. Yeah, punt

2137
01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:03,959
Speaker 1: return So yeah, they might be telling them to directional

2138
01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:06,759
Speaker 1: punt or do you know, do something, but it's not working.

2139
01:51:06,920 --> 01:51:09,360
Speaker 1: They get tricky with the spin on the ball too.

2140
01:51:09,560 --> 01:51:14,840
Speaker 1: So the muff punt last week in Cleveland, Matthew Slater

2141
01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:17,639
Speaker 1: actually gave Jake Bailey credit. This is where I can't

2142
01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:21,040
Speaker 1: very kicking a certain type of ball right. The spin

2143
01:51:21,160 --> 01:51:22,920
Speaker 1: on the ball is a certain way that makes it

2144
01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:26,439
Speaker 1: difficult for the punt returner to field. So I'm not

2145
01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:28,719
Speaker 1: saying that Jake Bailey is punting well, I'm with everybody

2146
01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:30,760
Speaker 1: that he's not punting. Well, I'm just telling you that

2147
01:51:30,880 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 1: when we ask people about it, they're like, oh, well,

2148
01:51:33,160 --> 01:51:35,400
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes we're trying to do different things, and

2149
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:37,920
Speaker 1: you know, they're kind of excusing it away, which is

2150
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 1: interesting I think. So back to practice, you were indoors, yes,

2151
01:51:41,360 --> 01:51:44,599
Speaker 1: um was there a lot of people in there from

2152
01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:48,120
Speaker 1: the media or like them when they go indoors any more.

2153
01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:52,320
Speaker 1: Not anymore, no more COVID limitations inside, so everybody can go.

2154
01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:55,439
Speaker 1: It was a pretty good contingent. I think Belichick's press

2155
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:57,519
Speaker 1: conference this morning was a draw. And then we also

2156
01:51:57,600 --> 01:51:59,360
Speaker 1: found out that Mac Jones is going to be talking

2157
01:51:59,439 --> 01:52:01,840
Speaker 1: this afternoon. We're gonna say we all also found out

2158
01:52:01,880 --> 01:52:08,920
Speaker 1: it was Chick fil A, Okay, but yeah, Mac Jones

2159
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:12,280
Speaker 1: is speaking today. We didn't already eat. Yeah, Mac Jones

2160
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:14,599
Speaker 1: is speaking at the podium. Yeah, I wonder if he'll

2161
01:52:14,640 --> 01:52:17,679
Speaker 1: be you know, give the same answer to this as Bill. Yeah,

2162
01:52:17,960 --> 01:52:20,240
Speaker 1: well whatever the coach says. You know, we're just trying.

2163
01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:22,280
Speaker 1: But that's the other thing about not naming the starters,

2164
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:25,800
Speaker 1: because by obligation, they have to bring a quarterback to

2165
01:52:25,920 --> 01:52:28,519
Speaker 1: the podium every Usually they do it on Wednesdays. It

2166
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what day it is, but by obligation, the

2167
01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:34,280
Speaker 1: quarterback needs to talk. I think technically in the rule

2168
01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 1: in the by laws, it's the starting quarterback. I was

2169
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:39,000
Speaker 1: just gonna say, but I don't you know now in

2170
01:52:39,080 --> 01:52:41,360
Speaker 1: this situation, who the heck knows who the starting quarterback?

2171
01:52:41,400 --> 01:52:43,519
Speaker 1: And then they did ask if Bailey Zappy would be

2172
01:52:43,520 --> 01:52:46,719
Speaker 1: available at his locker, and he's like, we don't know yet. Okay,

2173
01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:52,320
Speaker 1: so but they have to fulfill that obligation. So now

2174
01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:54,160
Speaker 1: mac Jones is going to go out in front of

2175
01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:57,559
Speaker 1: the podium after Bill declined to it, name him the starter,

2176
01:52:58,000 --> 01:52:59,639
Speaker 1: and now he's going to have to feel the million

2177
01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:03,280
Speaker 1: questions about what's happening for the game on Sunday, and

2178
01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:08,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to answer questions about who's playing in

2179
01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:10,040
Speaker 1: the game and if what the situation is going to

2180
01:53:10,120 --> 01:53:12,120
Speaker 1: be and stuff like that. So look, I know he's

2181
01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:15,240
Speaker 1: gonna have his rehearsed answers, but you're still opening him

2182
01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:18,759
Speaker 1: up to having to go out there and and essentially

2183
01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:21,200
Speaker 1: fall on the sword like Zappy did last week. Right,

2184
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:27,559
Speaker 1: it's just unnecessary, unnecessary. Well, hopefully behind the scenes he's

2185
01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:30,559
Speaker 1: saying the right things to the players so that they

2186
01:53:30,680 --> 01:53:34,720
Speaker 1: know what the plan is because we don't know right now. Um,

2187
01:53:35,680 --> 01:53:38,360
Speaker 1: anything else like that came out of practice that you

2188
01:53:38,439 --> 01:53:41,200
Speaker 1: want to talk about. You know, it was a walkthrough, right,

2189
01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:45,920
Speaker 1: just yeah, shorts and shells or yeah, Trent Brown wasn't

2190
01:53:46,080 --> 01:53:49,479
Speaker 1: in a jersey, so we could be seeing like a

2191
01:53:49,560 --> 01:53:53,080
Speaker 1: veteran day off or something like that there for Trent Brown,

2192
01:53:53,200 --> 01:53:55,640
Speaker 1: which when they're not really doing much anyways, I'm not

2193
01:53:55,760 --> 01:53:58,640
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that really matters, but he for

2194
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:01,000
Speaker 1: some reason, he was one of the I think the

2195
01:54:01,120 --> 01:54:04,560
Speaker 1: only player that wasn't in a in a jersey of

2196
01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:07,200
Speaker 1: some sort, So I thought that was interesting. Yeah, it

2197
01:54:07,280 --> 01:54:11,800
Speaker 1: was really weird when he walked by Odd Ben and

2198
01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:15,720
Speaker 1: Brooklyn wants to know he said with the Bears that

2199
01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:18,679
Speaker 1: the design runs were new for Fields, and he wants

2200
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:21,800
Speaker 1: wondering do you think there was extra motivation on the

2201
01:54:21,920 --> 01:54:25,080
Speaker 1: part of the Bears not to have Belichick pass Hallis

2202
01:54:25,120 --> 01:54:30,040
Speaker 1: on their watch? No, I do you think that Matt

2203
01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:35,200
Speaker 1: eberflus Er, justin Fields gives a crap about George Hallis? Oh,

2204
01:54:35,680 --> 01:54:38,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, you never know. I mean, you want

2205
01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:40,720
Speaker 1: to go with one of those sort of coiny like

2206
01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:47,120
Speaker 1: divine intervention kind of things like, but do you think

2207
01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:51,160
Speaker 1: Justin Field's even new that Bill Belichick had a chance

2208
01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:53,320
Speaker 1: to pass George Hallis on the All Time Wins? I

2209
01:54:53,360 --> 01:54:56,440
Speaker 1: don't know. I know, on this team, Bill comes up

2210
01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:59,080
Speaker 1: with stuff like that, Like, you know, he'll give a

2211
01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:03,680
Speaker 1: little background on the coaches, their their tendencies, their backgrounds.

2212
01:55:04,120 --> 01:55:06,960
Speaker 1: I could see him talking about another coach saying, you know,

2213
01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:10,200
Speaker 1: this coach has a chance of passing. I could see

2214
01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:13,000
Speaker 1: Bill saying that to his team. I just don't think,

2215
01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:15,040
Speaker 1: you know, he perfus in his first year as the

2216
01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:17,200
Speaker 1: head coach there. He's just trying to win games. And

2217
01:55:17,320 --> 01:55:19,200
Speaker 1: I think for Justin Fields, if there's any sort of

2218
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:22,320
Speaker 1: extra motivation, it's that the Patriots didn't draft him. Being

2219
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:26,200
Speaker 1: that was hot much higher on his list, was proving

2220
01:55:26,280 --> 01:55:28,240
Speaker 1: that you picked the wrong guy. Yeah, he scouted all

2221
01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:30,760
Speaker 1: of us. You were at my pro day and you

2222
01:55:30,880 --> 01:55:33,280
Speaker 1: took Mac and and look at what you missed out on. Like,

2223
01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 1: I think that's way more motivation than George. Well, I

2224
01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:40,880
Speaker 1: know players they think that way. Yeah, I'm gonna show you. Yeah.

2225
01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:45,280
Speaker 1: We had Vince Wilfork on one of those podcasts Matt

2226
01:55:45,320 --> 01:55:47,440
Speaker 1: Matt Smith and I on pats from the past. Yeah,

2227
01:55:47,560 --> 01:55:52,000
Speaker 1: and he rattled off the twenty three guys chosen ahead

2228
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:54,400
Speaker 1: of him in the first round. I think he was

2229
01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:56,840
Speaker 1: twenty fourth. That's ringing a bell to me, but I

2230
01:55:56,920 --> 01:55:58,920
Speaker 1: might be off by he rattled off the names of

2231
01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:02,600
Speaker 1: the guys like nothing. All the guys draft and he

2232
01:56:02,680 --> 01:56:05,520
Speaker 1: could tell you every guy, all the Miami guys. He

2233
01:56:05,720 --> 01:56:08,640
Speaker 1: was like, you know, he got drafted before me, Like right,

2234
01:56:09,240 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 1: every guy they remember, they remember. You know, you would think, oh,

2235
01:56:12,440 --> 01:56:14,200
Speaker 1: you know you're in the league, you made your money,

2236
01:56:14,320 --> 01:56:16,600
Speaker 1: you had a great career, you won super Bowls. They

2237
01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:19,520
Speaker 1: still remember that. Yeah, they still remember that, and they

2238
01:56:19,600 --> 01:56:22,480
Speaker 1: take it as a slight all right, we're gonna wrap

2239
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:25,080
Speaker 1: it up. It was a fun two hours. What are

2240
01:56:25,120 --> 01:56:28,160
Speaker 1: we going on after this? Catch twenty two? Right, yes,

2241
01:56:28,360 --> 01:56:31,680
Speaker 1: catch twenty two? Yeah, some more more punting talk. I

2242
01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:35,440
Speaker 1: think Alex Barth would like to reintroduce the punting topic

2243
01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:37,840
Speaker 1: topic because he knows Evan really likes it. This is

2244
01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:39,880
Speaker 1: one of those things that Alex will be like, you

2245
01:56:39,960 --> 01:56:41,920
Speaker 1: gotta give me two minutes on the punter. All right.

2246
01:56:42,160 --> 01:56:44,000
Speaker 1: I don't care when it is, but you gotta give

2247
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:45,600
Speaker 1: me two minutes to talk about the punter and then

2248
01:56:45,640 --> 01:56:49,120
Speaker 1: two minutes becomes ten. That's like Bill, he'll answer with

2249
01:56:49,200 --> 01:56:51,000
Speaker 1: like a seven minute answer. I know. I tried to

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01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:52,320
Speaker 1: get him. I was like, oh, I'll ask you a

2251
01:56:52,440 --> 01:56:54,760
Speaker 1: question about the Jets defense, because you know, I thought

2252
01:56:54,840 --> 01:56:57,360
Speaker 1: maybe he would give me like a two paragraph answer.

2253
01:56:57,440 --> 01:57:00,280
Speaker 1: He gave me a decent he actually agreed with. I

2254
01:57:00,320 --> 01:57:02,720
Speaker 1: think I think he well welcome the question that wasn't

2255
01:57:02,720 --> 01:57:04,960
Speaker 1: about the quarterback. Yeah, that's what I was trying to do,

2256
01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:07,240
Speaker 1: you know, give him, give him something else to talk about.

2257
01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:11,640
Speaker 1: All right, um, unfiltered live. Oh yes, tomorrow. We'll be

2258
01:57:11,760 --> 01:57:14,840
Speaker 1: on video tomorrow. So not that we're not live today,

2259
01:57:14,960 --> 01:57:17,600
Speaker 1: but we're just audio today. Tomorrow will be on video,

2260
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:22,040
Speaker 1: so we'll have Paul. We have to wear decent clothing. Okay,

2261
01:57:22,200 --> 01:57:24,520
Speaker 1: I don't like that hoodie thing you're wearing. Yeah, I

2262
01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:26,680
Speaker 1: don't or you wearing purple? Yeah, I don't like you

2263
01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:30,800
Speaker 1: don't like me wearing purple? No? Why it's not my color? No?

2264
01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:37,560
Speaker 1: Just kidding? Good, I don't think she's kidding. Who knew? Sorry?

2265
01:57:37,680 --> 01:57:40,400
Speaker 1: Not sorry? All right, all right, thanks everyone, we'll talk

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01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:45,960
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